The least worst of Nu-Metal

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I know, 99% of Nu-metal is pure crap. But there is a whole 1% that it is not that bad.

Help me make a 3 cd compilation.

― Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

'Blind' - Korn
'Crawlin' - Linkin park
'Rollin' - Limp Bizkit

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

system of a down's cover of 'shame on a nigga'

― jake b. (cerybut), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Slipknot - "wait and bleed" or "spit it out" were their best moments, I reckon, mostly for the dog barking noises and bizarre percussion.

System of a Down - "Chop suey" or whatever it was called. The good one.

The motion man remix of Linkin Park "in the end" that was on their remix album.

― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah! I forgot SOD, totally unjustly. Best Nu-metal band ever.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

system of a down's cover of 'shame on a nigga'
this really exists? wow, i need that.

System of a Down and Tool(if they count) are the best IMO.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

'Rollin' - Limp Bizkit
-- Wooden

Fantastic song. So good it hardly deserves to be tainted with the term 'Nu Metal'.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

As much as i think they're dreadfully silly, "Dig" by Mudvayne.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

System of a Down is great. It is the only nu metal band i have an album. I am listening toxicity right now.

But I need more. The plan is a 3 cds compilation.

I found a page in internet that suggests that the following bands are good:

Disturbed
Soil
Saliva
Mudvayne
Deftones
Dry Kill Logic
Chimera
36 Crazyfists
5 pointe 0
Static X
Sevendust
American Head Charge
Ill nino
Spineshank
Machine Head
Agresion
Adema
Slipknot
Stonesour
Kittie

I don't know any of these bands...

― Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Disturbed

Good lord no!

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"butterfly" is a truly great record (if it counts)

― artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

normally i try to stick up for genres or artists that are routinely shat upon by discerning types, but almost all of those bands are fucking awful.

― jess, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"butterfly" is a truly great record (if it counts)

By Crazy Town? Man, you're so wrong on that point you should be locked up.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Disturbed
Good lord no!

-- David Allen (Davidalle...), July 30th, 2004."

Disturbed may suck. I don't really know. I just need one goog song from them.

― Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

that Deftones song "Shut up and drive (Far Away)" is pretty good.
kinda MBV-ish guitar sound.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Minerva" by the Deftones isn't entirely terrible.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Would AMEN count as Nu Metal? They have their moments.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah Alex otm that one's alright too. I have both of the CDs those songs come from, and they're a little boring on the whole, but "Minerva" and "Shut Up and drive" are the two best songs between them.
x-post

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Alex. In fact, I don't know. But i trust in you.

― Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Deftones.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

OTEP!!!!!!!!!!

and System of a Down, and a few Deftones songs.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"butterfly" (which i think of as more of a hip-hop record than nu-metal really)

(1) is funny
(2) has cool woosh noises
(3) has filled the dancefloor every time i've played it

deftones are fucking horrible

― artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'll second "Wait and Bleed" and System of a Down and will nominate Korn's "Freak on a Leash." You gotta love that faux-DJ Muggs bassline.

― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

the best thing about butterfly is the guitar line. That makes the song bearable but only just

― hector (hector), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

linkin park is consistently superb
evanescence's first single was good
i am reevaluating "rollin" but have always found the music too boring for the ott clowning in the verses to amuse

― artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess very much OTM here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I've always liked Soulfly, and their new one is surprisingly solid. Killswitch Engage is pretty good, too.

I can't stand that new Otep album.

― abegrand, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I heart the Deftones.

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

― Simon H., Friday, 30 July 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

linkin park is consistently superb

...if you're deaf.

Linkin Park: Defend them. I dare you.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

SOAD have a couple of good songs, Linkin Park too. Papa Roach are going to age well as a silly retro artifact.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

to artiste: saying Crazy Town>Deftones = *raspberry*

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal. They sound more like Lamb of God, and Lamb of God is PURE AMERICAN METAL the way GOD intended!!!

what don't you like the new Otep? I haven't checked it out yet - it's been on a pile of stuff I haven't gotten to for a few days. The last one - especially "Blood Pigs" - was pretty great. Plus, Wifey and I really wanna have a threesome with her.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i've actually never heard any other crazy town songs i don't think!!

― artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

but i bet they are better than the deftones

― artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If you pretend that Mad Capsule Markets are a nu-metal band then they would be the best nu-metal band.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely Tool don't count as nu, neither Soulfly - as they're so connected to Sepultura in my mind.

Can't say i like any of these, except maybe SOAD's Chop Suey coz at least they sounded like they were doing something different, & maybe the odd Deftones track.

― piers, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I like disturbed's "The Sickness".

― fk, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"Duality" - Slipknot
"Toxicity" - System of a Down
"My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones (if it counts)
"Bring Me to Life" - Evanescense
"Faint" - Linkin Park
"Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
"Got the Life" - KoRn

Those are all pretty good, some even great.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Lostprophets "Last Train Home"!!!!!!!!

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

lostprophets are like emu-metal

― artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Butterfly"'s one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Deftones/Slipknot have their moments, can't remember what they are tho.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

some earlier Korn stuff.
System of a Down, definately.
Slipknot.
Mushroomhead.
Otep.
early limp bizkit stuff.

yeah, who cares.

― Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal.

what don't you like the new Otep?

Yeah, you're right about Killswitch.

The new Otep sounds great, but it just grates after 40 minutes, it's an emptyheaded Slipknot clone, with none of the melodies. Otep claims to be a big poet, but all it amounts to is adolescent whining, and badly done at that. Hearing, "I hate my life!" over and over just gets tiring after a while. A tale of sound and fury, etc. etc. etc.

("Warhead" is an okay tune, though)

― abegrand, Friday, 30 July 2004 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)

well put. But that's what makes her cuddly, I think. "I use my fists to empower my hate!" - I wanna give her a big kiss on the cheek. Probably not the reaction she's looking for, but...

Seriously, though, "Blood Pigs" knocked me out. I was a little disappointed with all the 'rapping' on their last record - is there less this time? (I should just go listen to the damn thing!)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a good band trapped inside of Linkin Park that will never, ever get out.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

...and I think that that's a shame.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

does the rasmus "in the shadows" count? single of the year, no less.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band."

Yeah, it's probably better to appreciate them as "pop" rather than as a hard rock band.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Stonesour rate a mention surely? They're pretty good, though I couldn't name one of their songs.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The Rasmus? Single of the year? How I laughed.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The RZA is actually on that SOAD cover, isn't he?

― briania (briania), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

alright some of these been covered already but fuck it (and while "Butterfly" is glorious its not really nu-metal. It's just a rap song).

This isn't a top ten ever, it's not even necessarily my favorite songs by these artists, but if you don't like any of these songs, wtf are you doing on this thread. you don't believe in a least worst of nu-metal, you're just being a troll.

Evanescence - "Bring Me To Life"
Linkin Park - "Faint"
Limp Bizkit - "Nookie"
Deftones - "Minerva"
System Of A Down - "Chop Suey"
Disturbed - "Down With The Sickness"
Limp Bizkit - "No Sex"
Korn - "Freak On A Leash"
Deftones - "Change (In The House Of Flies)
Linkin Park - "In The End"

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Do we consider Incubus nu-metal? They have quite a few songs I wouldn't kick out of bed for eating crackers. I'll just pick "2010" out of the bunch, for posterity's sake, but they really are pretty great.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 30 July 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The first five tracks off Slipknot's debut disc
Anything off the Deftones' White Pony, which is fucking brilliant start to finish
Most of Disturbed's Believe, which is much, much better than the debut
There are at least three or four good songs on Static X's Wisconsin Death Trip, but I can't remember the titles right now

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Science" by incubus is a pretty good album, but they turned to the dark side after that.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm confused as to why the seemingly arbitrary decision was made to create a 3 CD set. Based on this thread so far, it sounds like there's a very strong, enjoyable single "Least Worst of Nu-Metal," but it also sounds like stretching it into 3 discs is gonna be tough. Even by the standards of the folks here who have the most interest in the genre.

Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Youth of the Nation" - POD
"Butterfly", "Revolving Door" - Crazytown
Static X (first two albums anyway)
Apex Theory (first album and EP)

probably some other stuff I've mentioned on other threads

― chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The first two hit singles by Adema (Jonathon Davis's brother's band) are also better than anything by Korn. And Kittie (esp on their live EP) aren't absolutely horrible at all.

― chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

And Scott is OTM about Mad Capsule Markets (though I personally might like Apex Theory slightly more)

― chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(Also Cyclefly, if they count.)

― chuck, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

dang, totally forgot about "Youth Of The Nation"

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I'm having no luck whatsoever finding this SOAD "Shame On a Nigga" cover, and it's on the verge of ruining my day.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

its on slsk and it's not good

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Lil Wyte ft. Josey Scott of Saliva - Homicidal, Suicidal
Three 6 Mafia ft. Josey Scott of Saliva - Mosh Pit
Papa Roach - Last Resort

― scg, Friday, 30 July 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

-I'm confused as to why the seemingly arbitrary decision was made to create a 3 CD set

I always do 3 cd sets. I made a blues 3cd set, a hip hop 3cd set, two 80's 3 cd set, 10 indie rock 3 cds set, a Jandek 3cd set, a Prince 3 cd set... This is totally arbitrary.

- Based on this thread so far, it sounds like there's a very strong, enjoyable single "Least Worst of Nu-Metal," but it also sounds like stretching it into 3 discs is gonna be tough. Even by the standards of the folks here who have the most interest in the genre.

Yes, you are right. I will try to do a 2 cd set.

- Personally, I'm only gonna second what's already been said: "Chop Suey" is a good song, and there's a good bit of Deftones stuff out there worth inclusion.

Thank You and thanks to all of you.

― Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sort of inspired to make one of my own mixes like this now.

If ever a genre could be distilled to one disc, it was nu-metal.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

good deftones includes

Feitciera
Digital Bath
Street Carp
Teenage
Knife prty
Change (In The House Of Flies)
Pink Maggit
Hexagram
Minerva
When Girls Telephone Boys
Battle-Axe
Moana

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Sysytem of a Down is a GREAT fucking band. Calling them nu-metal is an insult. I also like Slipknot -- "Duality" is a great single. Beyond that, most of it is shit -- tho Linkin Park piques my intellectual interest.

― Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

So what's the verdict on Incubus as nu-metal?

Probably not, right?

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I wanna put like five Linkin Park songs on this thing. Maybe I could get away with two.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

it's their depeche mode-isms, innit? (not to mention the deftones' mbv-isms/swervedriver-isms/shoegazer tendencies)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the latter features of the deftones being why they're the ONLY nu-metal band* that gets MY seal of approval, of course!

(* = unless tool counts as nu-metal. but even after all this time, that's still an open question, yes?)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 31 July 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, here's what I came up with. One-disc--there's just not enough really strong material for two.

Bring Me to Life: The Least Worst of Nu-Metal:

1. "Bring Me to Life" - Evanescence
2. "Du Hast" - Rammstein
3. "Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
4. "Duality" - Slipknot
5. "The Reason" - Hoobastank
6. "Got the Life" - KoRn
7. "Alive" - P.O.D.
8. "In the End" - Linkin Park
9. "Toxicity" - System of a Down
10. "Push It" - Static-X
12. "Blue Monday" - Orgy
13. "My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones
14. "Broken" - Seether f/ Amy Lee
15. "Last Train Home" - Lostprophets

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 31 July 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too bad "Crawling" has such a grating, obvious chorus, or it'd be much better than "In The End". "Broken" is on par with Creed. "Last Train Home" is pretty great, I love how after the first "chorus" ends it hits you with AN EVEN BIGGER CHORUS, and Lostprophets' first album was definitely nu-metal, but I'm not sure about that song.

― Sansai, Saturday, 31 July 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

seconded: "Du Hast" and "Push It"

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 31 July 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

System of a Down are not nu-metal at all! They are,uh, erm... pop spazcore?

Rammstein's Mutter is extremely underappreciated in the States.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 1 August 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Reason" is not nu-metal in the least!!!! Also, it is the most grating single of the year, Josh Groban notwithstanding. Replace with Papa Roach - "Last Resort," Dr. Bill.

― Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 1 August 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

SOAD are intelligent nu-metal. Nu-metal nonetheless.

"Broken" was a last minute addition because I wanted another power ballad. It might've been inappropriate.

"The Reason" itself isn't too nu-metal but the band is and their other songs suck. It's a bit of a stretch I suppose but I don't find it too inappropriate.

"Last Resort" is terrible. I might enjoy its presence on the mix because it's pretty fucking hysterical, but I wanted to make the most legitimate case possible for nu-metal as a truly worthwhile genre. It's not a great case but I think it probably works OK.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 1 August 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard a single nu-metal song I like.

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 1 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Rob Zombie count as nu-metal?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 1 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Adema are utterly, utterly indefensible.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex in NYC OTM.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got a cd in the mail by a band called X Headz that is pretty good. It's probably too late for them and no one will probably ever hear it. I think they are from Germany, but they have the American-sounding nu-grunge vocalist. The band is pretty tight though. And they rock a lot harder on some tracks then most nu-bys. And their album title is incomprehensibly memorable: Dirty Pounding Gasoline! Good hard rock guitar solos too (which is a plus).

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Instead of trying to find not-horrible nu-metal music, everyone should just go out and buy a Katatonia album and call it a day.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of Katatonia I need to burn you that Disco Inferno disc -- can you just e-mail me your address so I don't forget it? Thanks!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No, thank you. I sent my addy along via e-mail.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Bill, dude, the Rasmus - "In The Shadows" needs to be on there. Bounciest nu-metal chorus ever. Definitely should replace "The Reason" or "Broken". I'd personally count Incubus as nu-metal, but they've covered quite a bit of ground so it's tough to say what to put on there. Do you take the honestly-sorta-good funk stuff ("Antigravity Love Song", "Deep Inside"), the pale, overly earnest ballads ("Stellar", "Drive") or the guilty-pleasure faux-prog ("Nice To Know You", "Warning")?

― Sansai, Monday, 2 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucking hate the Deftones.

Can't have System without 'Sugar', which is far and away their greatest song. (they are obv 'nu-mental')

'Wait and bleed' seconded, as it is a pretty little folk song; bizkit's 'break stuff' was fucking iconic. And Pitchshifter were pretty decent, too, not that I can think of any song titles off the top of my head. Marylin Manson's 'Rock is dead' was also pretty damn near classic.

+ That remix of Rob Zombie's 'Dragula'!

...oh, man. I dig out my old mixtapes now!

― secret numetallist (cis), Monday, 2 August 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Adema are utterly, utterly indefensible.

There's an Adema video on the Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance game disc. I think the song might even be about Mortal Kombat. It's pathetic.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 2 August 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Never heard of Rasmus, I'll give it a download.

The overly earnest ballads are my Incubus of choice.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 2 August 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

If I concede a single good thing about Limp Bizkit, the revisionists have already won.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 2 August 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're talking about the British Pitchshifter (is there more than one? I dunno.) then they're so un-Nu-Metal it's untrue. How can a cross between Godflesh and Oil Seed Rape be Nu-Metal?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 2 August 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The Rasmus aren't new metal, they're cartoon Goth pop. If you call them nu-metal, then you have to call HIM nu-metal, and that'd just be retarded.

(Bill: The Rasmus are probably one of the ten biggest bands in the world at the moment, but they don't seem too bothered about cracking the US yet).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Adema are utterly, utterly indefensible.
There's an Adema video on the Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance game disc. I think the song might even be about Mortal Kombat. It's pathetic.

-- AaronHz (aaronh...), August 2nd, 2004.

Oh, yeah! I remember looking at it and just shaking my head.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Rasmus aren't new metal, they're cartoon Goth pop. If you call them nu-metal, then you have to call HIM nu-metal, and that'd just be retarded."

It has effeminate pop-star vocals, but the guitar line and production are totally nu-metal. I-IIIm. Suck it.

― Sansai, Monday, 2 August 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Disturbed have anything worth putting on there? I sorta recall a song that effectively ripped off the intro to Siouxsie and the Banshees - "Monitor", but the vocals killed it.

― Sansai, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the adema songs i sort of like are "the way you like it" (about fucking) and "freaking out" (about freaking out). they're kinda sexy and catchy, and you can understand the words, and the singer (who at least in these songs apparently doesn't feel the need to prove to us what a "mean macho man trying to a difficult shit" he is like most gnu-metal morons) has an halfway decent singing voice. they're actually more OK in a mid 90s bubblegrunge (as in, uh, stabbing westward) kinda way than a rap-metal way, fine with me. and if korn has come up with any song half as melodic, i've never heard it.

― chuck, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

...trying to TAKE a difficult shit..., I meant.

― chuck, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The new Saliva album isn't horrible. They're apparently trying to sound like '70s or '80s hard rock now, definitely a commendable idea, though the singer doesn't quite have a good enough voice to pull it off--usually he still reminds me more of fred durst than of joe elliot or mark farner or whoever. but at least he's TRYING....

― chuck, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Saliva were kinda like that before though too. Working the 70's thing, i mean.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Disturbed are terrible. I remember "Stupify" being good but as I haven't heard it since middle school I'm not trusting myself on that one.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(Bill: The Rasmus are probably one of the ten biggest bands in the world at the moment, but they don't seem too bothered about cracking the US yet).

The world? You mean they've broken beyond Europe?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The new God Lives Underwater album is Anthony Miccio's new favorite album. Maybe.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I'm intrigued

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, God Lives Underwater. Notable for two things: that video where the kid spends four minutes eating things in reverse, and doing the soundtrack to some video game.

"All Wrong" was pretty good too.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Part of Street Signs by
Ozomatli could be nu-
metal, and is great.

I once interviewed
Kittie's drummer, she was cool.
So I vote for them.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

When the song first came out I repeatedly played the Taz-devil break from "Freak On A Leash" on the air for about 2 solid minutes.

ummmdaktaummmdaktaEEBA ummdaktaummmdaktaEEBA!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GO!

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"Disturbed are terrible. I remember "Stupify" being good but as I haven't heard it since middle school I'm not trusting myself on that one."

And I'm pretty sure that's the song I was talking about. ("I GET STUPIFIYYED! I GET STUPIFIYYED!) I don't have the cojones to download it.

― Sansai, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And Hoobstank are post grunge, not nu metal, duh.

Its odd how "macho" has morphed and transmutated

― David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Post-grunge stopped existing with Semisonic and Fastball. It is no longer a viable genre.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's your inherent barrier: The crucial qualification for being nu-metal is that the band must totally suck. So any decent fence-sitting band that you might argue as nu-metal -- Static-X, System of a Down, etc. -- automatically does not qualify.

However, ignoring my argument entirely, I would never call Static-X nu-metal (unless you call Rob Zombie or Ministry or Prong nu-metal, which seems ridiculous). System of a Down is not nu-metal, either.

I would end this nutty little nu-metal compilation idea and throw yourself together a 3-CD Children of Bodom fest. You'll be much happier and healthier.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

racist.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

You caught me. OK, I actually sort of like "The Sickness" by Disturbed ... if I'm drunk and sing along with that "Oooo-wa-ka-ka-ka!" part. But I once tried to review them in concert and walked out during the second song.

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

cky has a few good songs, i've upped them on some of the other nu-metal songs.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

cky has a few good songs, i've upped them on some of the other nu-metal threads (edit).

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hell yes mr deeds!
that song is the perfect comedy.

― emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, CKY has some great songs. Their guitar tones are too clean and mid-rangy though IMHO to be %100 nu-metal (a defining characteristic of which are those ridiculously over-compressed MesaBoogie-amped-up tuned-down 7-string guitar passages that sorta wash every other instrument right out), but otherwise structurally they fit the bill.

There's this one pretty great Mudvayne song with this awesome 3-part vocal breakdown and this totally Yes-esque (Yesque?) weird structural shit going on. A lot of their shit does that, they're kinda nu-prog, honestly.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Mudvayne are total prog. Half their second album is brilliant. The other half attempts to graft melodic choruses onto the prog-ness, always resulting in host-body rejection.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, I forgot about the "Oooo-wa-ka-ka-ka!" part. Never mind, maybe they're not completely worthless.

Anyway, Rob Zombie and Ministry are both a whole lot more industrial than Static-X (or "Push It" at least, the only song of theirs I know).

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Rob Zombie + Ministry = Static x

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had to use Orgy, I would have picked "Stitches".

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a sucker for the New Order cover--I actually think they did an excellent job. Made for the centerpiece of a New Order cover mix I made once.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Urggggh. Orgy plays in my city in a few weeks. The promoter was lamenting it today, because the show has sold 32 tickets!
Ha!

I dunno about saying that Static-X isn't industrial, Good Dr. Static-X's "Wisconsin Death Trip" (or whatever it's called) encompasses a lot of industrial elements. Rob Zombie is more industrial just because he samples a B-movie 20 times per song? Frankly, Rob Zombie has gone downhill, now that I think about it. That's too bad. Viva "La Sexorcista"!

― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Back to School - Deftones

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

The "self-righteous suicide" and "dis-oooord-der" ones by System of a Down are great...

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny. Seems to mark the era better than any other song....It's epic hissy fit mosh rock.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

Dan Perry as well.

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

minerva is definitely the best nu-metal track.

― purple patch (electricsound), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

What?! Not by humans! You must be like a half-mage alien elf or some shit, Ned!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

YAY!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 3rd, 2004.

It's about the he said/she said bullshit.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I found this cool list of past Ozzfest line-ups in the U.S. Here are a few of the bands that have played over the years:

Cellophane
Slo Burn
downset
Drain sth
Snot
Kilgore
Ultraspank
Monster Voodoo Machine
Flashpoint
Pushmonkey
Apartment 26
Taproot
Slaves On Dope
Shuvel
Primer 55
Deadlights
Union Underground
Systematic
Godhead
Nonpoint
Spineshank
No One
Pressure 4-5
Pure Rubbish
Beautiful Creatures
Soil
Flaw
3rd Strike
Pulse Ultra
Glassjaw
Switched
Grade 8
Twisted Method
Unloco
Depswa
Motograter
Memento

YIKES!!! I think I've only heard Spineshank and Drain sth on that list. And I think I got an Apartment 26 album in the mail once, but I don't remember if I even listened to it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

This year's line-up is the best since the first year though. But, boy oh boy, they had 5 years in the nu-metal wilderness.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Does "Mash Out Posse" count as nu-metal?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Taproot, my lord theres a blast from the past.

Glassjaw were always good in at the drive in overly agitated kinda way and noone can deny the pure rawk (!) fury that is Soils "Halo".

― Damian McCoy (dmc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

I can;t believe no one mentioned "My December" by Linkin Park! such a great ballad for teenagers

― P26091983, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

>Beautiful Creatures<

Great band, led by Joe Leste', ex of Bang Tango, I totally recommend both albums. Velvet Revolver wish they were half this good. But this ain't nu-metal

― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also they do very good ballads for teenagers.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

good morning, chuck!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

guten morgen to you too scott!!!! it is the last morning of the year and I am drinking coffee and i just cleaned the bathroom and took out the bottle recylcables! soon i will pay bills!!

― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds exciting! i am watching the 2 boys. maria is asleep.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Korn and Limp Bizkit have both done some half decent cover versions.

And that's about it.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 1 January 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

eight years pass...

new crazy town is ... a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqNJxfMBF8

― maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (ten years ago)

i couldn't find a crazy town thread so i figured i'd resurrect this one

― maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (ten years ago)

finally a nu-metal thread I haven't posted in yet

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:39 (ten years ago)

If we're talking about the least worst of nu metal again, I was always partial to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJC5WWPCtGY

"Say something for the record - tell the people what you feel"

"Fuck the record... and fuck the people"

― B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Monday, 22 December 2014 11:40 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

i have 'diary of jane' by breaking benjamin stuck in my head today after hearing it on the radio recently and i kinda dig it, though it might just be stockholm syndrome. it's almost like...bubblegum nu-metal? idk

― ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

decided to listen to some samples of bands listed upthread that I never listened to after seeing a band that sounded like Korn shitting in Mushroomhead's mouth last night, followed by a pure Soulfly clone so ridiculous that they even have "fly" in their name!

Snot = percussive and funky, not ear grating. wouldn't voluntarily listen, but not bad
Kilgore = Godsmack trying to do doom, pass
Ultraspank = zzzzzZZZzzzzZZZzz
Primer 55 = Guy Fieri rapping over shitty g-funk 'metal'

ok back to thrash it is

― Neanderthal, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:19 (nine years ago)

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