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Seen some references to the Kompakt label over the past few months on ILM and just realised that I've been staring at their seemingly never-changing ad on page 3 of the reviews section of De:Bug magazine. I'm getting intrigued. So is it the New Chain Reaction? And more importantly which records do I want?

― Omar, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Here is my rundown of their first 10 full releases. I'd say start with this year's Total 3 compilation and work your way from there. The only release I can't really recommend is Schaffelfieber.

― Andy, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Total 3 Total 3 Total 3 Total 3 Total 3 Total 3 Total 3

― Josh, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i love how kompakt has become thee choice for EVERYONE in electronic music this year. (because, for once, everyone is RIGHT.) it's also odd to find people (not josh, btw) who listen to no dance music extolling the virtues of total 3 (and superlongevity, etc. ie the indie rock man who runs my local record store.)

so yes, total 3 total 3, yadda yadda. totals 1 & 2 are also grate. and pop ambient 2001. but andy's right, you'll want em all.

― jess, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What about 12"s? Are all of these compiled on the Total CDs, or are there still some uncompiled gems floating about on vinyl? I ask because I was confronted with a huge rack of Kompakt related 12"s in Rough Trade last Saturday and got a bit overwhelmed with the sheer amount of stuff.

― RickyT, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

all music by REINHARD VOIGT (mike ink) is consistantly good..

― jk, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

anything that reads kompakt is probably a good bet ricky t. and no, i don't think the totals are "complete".

what about tangentially related labels...perlon? klang electronik? playhouse?

― jess, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike Ink is actually Reinhard's sib, Wolfgang. I've liked most of Wolfie's output (Ink, Studio 1, Gas, All). And if you dig his Gas and All productions, you'd probably like Markus Guentner's In Moll.

As far as Reinhard's considered, he released some stuff through Profan; I've heard a stray track or two, but Profan's releases tend to be too abrasive for me. However, Reinhard just released a disc on Kompakt that falls in line a little more with the accessible nature of that label.

It's terribly difficult to keep all of these Cologne/Berlin figures straight. I've come to the conclusion that you need at least six pseudonyms prior to releasing your first 12".

Kompakt's compilations tend to throw some previously released 12" material together with unreleased. Definitely not complete. I don't own any of the singles -- if I started, I wouldn't stop. Most of what I've heard through the label's website is on par with what they've put on disc, if not better. Bastards.

― Andy, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i love how kompakt has become thee choice for EVERYONE in electronic music this year.

Is Kompakt that popular? If so, that's GRATE. I know their profile has been increased somewhat in the last year, but I didn't realize they were doing so well. A decent-sized stir is all I've been aware of.

― Andy, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This whole Kompakt thing is bemusing me because I haven't heard a *thing* about or by any of them except for about five ILx people. So if Certain Souls could assist me by the usual Secret Means, I for one would be appreciative...

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't know anything about them but having heard you drop German names all the time I got a little curious. I found their website which goes on about the "internationally known Cologne minimal sound". The site is basically a list of all their releases together with a mail order. Just listened to a sample from Reinhard Voigt here and must admit that I am probably too old for this music.

― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, andy it was obv. you and me and everyone else is just bandwagon jumping. ;)

hearing minimal techy-house stuff play in the indie store(s) when i go = GRATE. (at least it's not IDM twaddle.)

― jess, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn it, I'm always behind the curve. And just after buying the Tigerbeat6 comp. Damn it. I'm gonna go jump on the buttrock wagon before it takes off.

― David Raposa, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BLACK OAK FOREVAH!

― jess, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This particular page of the Kompakt site lists everything they've released; if you click the little dots next to each catalog number, you can hear snippets. There are samples for just about everything, including the 12"-ers.

I wish Kompakt had distribution in the US, similar to how Force Inc and all its offshoots gets distributed through EFA. More ears need to hear their output.

― Andy, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh no, Jess. You SHOULD find it odd.

― Josh, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is Kompakt really new to people?

Not to be a smart ass, but I thought I was really behind the times when I bought the represses for the first 6-7 records in early 99. Kompakt is a shop in Cologne that used to be called Delerium. The whole Cologne Minimal Acid scene has been going since the early 90's. In the last four years or so it has mutated into that whole minimal art-house thing. If you want to know what these guys were doing years ago, check out the Acid-Resistant comps.

I would highly recomend Las Vegas by Burger Ink, it is a good listening album. Check out Jorg Burger material as Bionaut. The Gas records are very good as well, Konigsforst, Pop, Zauberberg, I believe they were all out on Mille Plateaux. The Pop Ambient 2001 comp it good stuff, and according to their mailing list the Pop Ambient 2002 comp should be out in the near future. Check out the Ulf Lohmann CD as well, good stuff. As for most of their output, they are dance records, it is tough to really say anything about them. They are great minimal house records, and just about everything I have heard has been good. If you can mix them, you should get as many as you can get your hands on.

If you are really into this minimal cologne stuff, you should also look into Klang Elektronik records. Anything by Roman Flugel, Peter F. Spiess, or Farben. Also look into other microhouse lables like Playhouse, Ladomat and Perlon. Good stuff, but also very dj oriented. We used to play the hell out of all these german lables when I used to do Current in Detroit a couple years ago.

I do not know if they are the new CR. I think Kompakt is a very large piece of a whole greater german scene. Whereas CR came out of the ashes of Basic Channel and they are one of the most authentic lables when it comes to the minimal dub sound. Minimal Dub seems very centered in Berlin to me, everything in the Hardwax family of lables. I look at CR as being to Berlin Dub what Transmat is to Detroit Techno. There might be other lables and producers across the planet mimicing that sound, but they are the true creators and arbiters of that sound. I do not think Kompakt is the center of micro-house or what ever you would like to cal it.

That is my opinion, feel free to disregard portions of it as you see fit.

― Michael Taylor, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think a better reason for Kompakt not being the new Chain Reaction is that Chain Reaction had a very inward-focused and relatively cohesive sound (at least to my mind) whereas Kompakt are increasingly characterised by an absurd (in a good way) amount of all-embracing expansiveness - although this is more true of the Total compilations than the specific artist albums as far as I can tell.

I love the way that when flipping through the tracks on those comps you might hear a Moroder-style chugathon, and then what sounds like early Madonna remixed by Todd Edwards, and then a Green Velvet-style hard-tech track with deadpan vocals, and then a mournful guitar-laden quasi-balearic number, and then beatless ambience etc. etc.

And yeah, Total 3 is definitely the place to start - the other Total comps. are of a similar quality but are less instantly inviting.

― Tim, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As far as tangential labels go, I'd reccomend pretty much anything on ~Scape, (esp. Jan Jelinek or Kit Clayton) which surely rivals CR as far as berlin dub is concerned...

― turner, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And also on the tangential tip, can peeps recommend stuff on the Ware label? I liked Martin Schauffhauser's remix of Luomo's "Tessio", and since he basically runs the show I'm assuming that Ware is high-quality, but I am afeared of making a rash and ill-advised purchase when there's, like, fifty other cds I need to buy right now.

― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So, nice result guys! :) Let's see what I have heard has been scattered on mixtapes and it took me sometime (actually till I read Kompakt a bit too much on ILM threads) to put things together. That's one reason why it went a bit under my radar so to speak: Kompakt is such a boring/functional name for a label, same with the artists who seemingly all have German names without hardly using nifty groupnames. Third reason, it hard to keep up with all the good shit that's coming out.

I like Schaben and Voss - 'Fein Raus', Michael Mayer - Pensum and Joachim Speith - 'You don't fool me' The only Burger/Ink track I really know by title = 'Avalon' which is also great. Not on Kompakt but on Profan is my favorite track of this 'circle': Reinhard Voigt's smashing 'Oktoberfest #1'.

As for the CR comparison, I was thinking more in terms of "being the leading label in minimal techno". I have a suspicion that the releases on Ital have a more direct musical link with Chain Reaction.

― Omar, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uhmm, the label is named Italic. :( Their shop is great, pretty low prices I must say. Gonna get me some shit that way, since I can't find Total 3 in Amsterdam (hangs head in shame). I was thinking of Total 3, Pop Ambient 2001 and a single artist cd.

― Omar, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Attention new Kompakt compilation: Source:Pelicanneck

Various - Pop Ambient 2002 - Kompakt

Cologne’s cognoscenti deliver once again, their second compilation of the warm, flowing currents alive within new ambience, 2002 style. Nine tracks in all, seven exclusives from Wolfgang Voigt as All and Tal plus gems from Ulf Lohmann, Marcus Guentner, Triola, Tomlab’s Novisad and Dettinger. Its highly appropriate that the compilation starts and ends with Mr Voigt, his awesome body of work as Gas represents the starting point for much of this genre and his two contributions here are quiet, orchestrated masterpieces of tender restraint. Jawdropping. Licensed in from his beautiful Mille Plateaux album, Donnacha Costello’s Dry Retch, sounding like the most tranquil moments of Ryuchi Sakamoto, only more developed. And from dreary old Manchester, the pocket of warmth that is www.jz-arkh.co.uk, which long time subscibers to this list may fondly remember on a dinky little grey seven inch, still sounding better than ever. Hugely consistent and highly recommended.

― DJ Martian, Friday, 30 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

see what happens when you miss an ILM thread...?!

― Paul, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

So time to revive this one: anyone hear Total 4 ?

― Omar, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

omar I love you. why didn't I think of that? haha this year maybe I can like THREE dance albums!

― Josh, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT! And thank god it's finally coming out - the wait has been excrutiating.

2. The last colour scheme I expected was grey and orange, but I think I like it.

3. Dunno the tracklisting, but the included artists are:

Autobianchi (sp?), Freiland, Jurgen Paape, Kaito, Superpitcher, Jonas Bering, M. Mayer, Justus Koehncke, Thomas Fehlmann, Voight & Voight, Schaeben & Voss, Closer Musik.

Nice to see Kaito finally get a look in on a Total comp - his stuff is great, actually making an impossibly convincing argument for a Jam & Spoon revival.

― Tim, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hope the M. Mayer track is his cover of Sade's Love Is Stronger Than Pride. It's great.

They've taken a bit of a dip lately, haven't they?

― Andy K, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nice to see Kaito finally get a look in on a Total comp

Praise die Gotter!! I was hoping the master of high-brow trance was going to make an appearance.

Dip, I dunno, the Justus Koehncke and Closer Musik albums are rather addictive.

― Omar, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Immer is some days my album of the year - I know most of the tracks aren't Kompakt but it feels like their statement.

If there's a frustration with Kompakt, it would be that there's been no artist who has put out an album that captures the best of their sound the way the Total comps do. This year's two artist albums have both represented tangents - Closer Musik too dark and minimal techno-ish (albeit still a great album), and what I've heard of Justus Koehncke too shiny and cheerful (though damned addictive). Where are the albums by M. Mayer, Superpitcher, The Modernist, Sascha Funke and Jurgen Paape (to name but a few)?

Also, based on "Gratis" and "Making It Whistle" - both impossibly stunning - I'd love to hear Thomas Fehlmann do a full Kompakt album.

― Tim, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dip, I dunno, the Justus Koehncke and Closer Musik albums are rather addictive.

Rather, not completely -- hence the dip. Each of those albums and the past several 12"s have had their great moments, but I don't think they've been up to the standard of what has preceded them.

Just with M. Mayer and Superpitcher, you have two producers who rarely repeat themselves on a track-by-track basis. The fact that neither of them have released more material is pretty frustrating. And where has Dettinger run off?

― Andy K, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha I thought this was how dance is SUPPOSED to work

― Josh, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just got 17&4 by Mayer and it's good - it's ambivalent, but because of its tactics, not despite them. dark, foreground warm and blobby and intricate, background icy, both vast and near at the same time if you know what i'm saying, oddly reminds me of Ken Ishii but it's much gungier and naturalistic the way it unfolds. this is from memory because the decks are on loan.

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

People suffering Kompakt withdrawals should check out Markus Guentner's excellent "For Sandra" EP from a few months ago on Ware (a tremendously underrated label in my opinion). Although Guentner only seems to do ambient stuff for Kompakt, he appears to be just as talented at Total style tech-house - charming, melodic, melancholic and pop-flavoured. There's even an implausible cover of Talk Talk's "Such A Shame".

Anyone who actually does buy the EP should then upload it somewhere asap as I only have the 3 minute mp3 samples from here.

― Tim, Sunday, 4 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Since we're talking about neo-Kompakt music: anyone hear that Lawrence album?

― Omar, Sunday, 4 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Very ballsy Theo Parrish ripoff in spots but yeah -- I really love it.

(No one is more tech-house than Theo Parrish.)

― Andy K, Sunday, 4 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone heard Murcof or Marcof or something like that?

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, I have heard of Murcof, they're on Leaf over here, I don't have anything interesting to say about them, but I just wanna keep this Kompakt thread in the top half of the list.

― nick.K, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah i heard one or two tracks by murcof that sounded really good,i'd be interested in hearing the album...kompakt,on the other hand,i've never heard anything on,but it sounds like i should rectify that situation...

― robin, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dettinger retutrns as a remixer on the new (kind of anti climatic) jurgen paape kompakt 12".

murcof played live here in glasgow last month (using the now ubiquitous abelton live). imagine farben jamming with arvo part and yr halfway there. gorgeous.

i want more superpitcher and i want it now!

― kmac.twitch@virgin.net, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oops, the above post was by me, not my other email address.

― stirmonster, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gonna have to disagree on Murcof. Saw him at Mutek and while I was impressed at first, eventually I just got bored. Tasteful, crisp production, but the formula (minimal house + classical samples) kinda wore thin. Not much variation between tracks, maybe.

― Lukas Bergstrom, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

V/A Total 4 - Kompakt

13 Track CD, featuring chartbound sounds from KAITO, with his debut album imminent, THOMAS FEHLMANN, CLOSER MUSIK, JONAS BERING and VOIGT & VOIGT. As with the vinyl edition, all exclusive and unreleased tracks from AUTOBIANCHI[aka JORG BURGER], FREILAND[aka WOLFGANG VOIGT], MICHAEL MAYER, SUPERPITCHER, JUSTUS KOHNCKE, REINHARD VOIGT, JURGEN PAAPE and SCHAEBEN & VOSS. Further pleasures to the vinyl edition as four of the biggest cuts this year make for a full impact compact disc for parties and picnics all summer long. A vibesing beginning from Jorg Burger sets underway possibly the best Kompakt collection thus far. As he pitches up the chorus, the confidence of the Cologne crew is blatant: they know what to do, they do it often. Herr Voigt's Freiland project is trademarked Kompakt, a deadly off kilter, looping riddim, loose and trim in shuffle time. During Jurgen Paape's "Mit Dir" a beautiful voice sings "from far away there comes music", it's a precious moment, made all the more affecting by the stripped rhythm and the romantic delays topping it. Almost Detroit, when the fill ins occur, and yet Cologne has become as big a byword on its own terms in receent months. On the second piece of vinyl, the big guns are wheeled out for some bravura stuff. Fehlmann's contribution is typically amazing, Michael Mayer's upstepping accents barely prepares us for the awesome showdown. Easily the equal of his own immense and recent "Love is Stronger Than Pride" [back in stock folks] and that's saying something. Justus Kohncke's tune could easily be the part two to "2 After 909", as we all know by now probably THE underground deejay record of the year so far. The rhythm supplies consistency, while Justus picks up a guitar, for an exquisite solo moment, which will charm as much as it perhaps surprises at first. Saving the best til last, Superpitcher drop the bomb, with a super choice of cover version. Eno's "Baby's On Fire" is just so so so good, anyway, but the deadpan delicious delivery, the groove, the song, the moment. Quite appropriate, more than they may suspect even - party on dudes, you rock our world. A must have collection.

Source: BOOMKAT

― DJ Martian, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aaarggghhh, a cover of 'Baby's on Fire'? Too perfect. I need it NOW!

― Omar, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

!!!

― jess, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sounds mouthwatering does't it.

― stevo, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just picked up the vinyl -- won't get the CD until next week.

Initial thought: pretty solid throughout. The M. Mayer, Autobianchi, and Jurgen Paape tracks are vocal numbers of varying brilliance. M. Mayer's is one of his best yet. Superpitcher's Eno cover is pretty straightforward -- bouncy synth pop, as you might expect.

― Andy K, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...and now I have the CD. It's easily on the same plane as the other Totals. Very little in the way of abrasive, remotely bangin' stuff -- instant appeal through and through.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 22 August 2002 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I've had a a different favourite so everyday of this week so far. There's been alot of jockeying for first on my playlist, of course, Jurgen Paape, M.Mayer and Superpitcher shared pole position, but it was anyone's race after the first play. 'Closer Musik - Maria' held some sway early on, Justus Kohncke would have held the lead for longer had it not been for the acoustic twang. Richard Voigh's 'Die Andere' isn't exactly bangin', but it's certainly 'aving it.... and Voigh & Voigh's 'Roxy' has a steely tech-noir glow. Schaeben and Voss recall p-p-p-Perlon's finest, Freiland's 'Frei' is another exercise in Kompakt's awkward 'kronk' style, Bering's 'Marine' is a gorgeous shimmer. M.Mayer is pitch perfect. Right now, Paape's 'Mit Dir's pushing through again. To conclude, get a tank of gas, turn it up and hit the road....... at night.

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 24 August 2002 06:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Love it, especially 'Mit Dir', and that Schaeben and Voss track funks like this year's "Blaue Loewen," but I really (really) wish Superpitcher had covered more of the original lyrics.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

the superpitcher cover of "baby's on fire" is PERFECT!! it doesn't need all the original lyrics - in fact it does better with the constant repetition - it makes adhering to all the original lyrics seem superfluous. i like the bare-bones-ness of it, the disembodiedness of it. he even messes up the lyrics he uses!! (check: "like a heifer to the slaughter" becomes "like a hevvah" and then "like a hevrah" - trying a slightly difft pronuncation each time like that part in evil dead 2 when ash tries to say the secret code)

this is what i'm going to be playing at my dance party of the future

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I found a way of playing 'Mit Dir' in a club the other night. Within seconds of the vocals it brought a german girl running over, she was stunned to hear that singer on the record, apparently she's is very well known in Germany, but not for this kind of track. Not surprising really, but it worked similarly before I knew any of that.

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Geeta, I'm going to respectfully disagree only because I would love to hear Superpitcher's stylings re/mis-interpret the rest of the lyrics.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 31 August 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Does the Superpitcher cover sounds very much like a/the Kylie/New Order mashup to anyone else, or am I just nuts?

― scott pl., Sunday, 1 September 2002 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

You are not at all insane, as I thought the same thing the first time I heard it. It's that charming bubbly synth, I guess.

― Teacakes, Sunday, 1 September 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd love to hear Thomas Fehlmann do a full Kompakt album.

Make it so, they said at Kompakt HQ.

Kompakt CD 20: Thomas Fehlmann - Vision of Blah. :)

Finally got Total 4 yesterday. After some spins I'm blown away by the Michael Mayer track. Both the Jurgen Paape and Autobianchi tracks are beautiful german pop musik. Also love the majestic Kaito track (his album on Kompakt should be out any moment now).

Very strong compilation again, overall not as melancholic as 3.

― Omar, Thursday, 12 September 2002 06:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"Kompakt CD 20: Thomas Fehlmann - Vision of Blah. :)"

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Kaito too! Double YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 September 2002 16:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Dettinger's Oasis. It's the best fukt up thing I've heard on Kompakt, along with the parts of Closer Musik that don't suggest Right Said Fred.

― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 12 September 2002 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

the dettinger album made me really uneasy (physiologically) the couple of times i've played it.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 September 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

It does have a woozy, nighmarish feeling. It was about the first record where glitch finally made sense (?) to me, although what affects me most isn't its glitchiness.

― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 12 September 2002 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I only have Intershop - how does Oasis compare (apart from the glitchiness)?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 September 2002 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

i was listening to total 4 just now for what must be the 30th or 40th time, when something really weird happened during the freiland track. my brain started focusing on the slower background noise instead of the melody; i'd never really noticed it before, but listening to that part instead is really really weird. the whole world seems to slow down, and then you grasp the melody and lurch back to reality, like those horrible moments when you wake up after dozing off momentarily in a lecture and aren't sure if everyone's noticed your head flopping over to the side. but in a good way.

oh, and "baby's on fire" is still my favourite track on the album.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 3 October 2002 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I put a large Kompakt sticker on my windscreen today. I hate stickers.

― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 3 October 2002 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

What to be people think of the lurching "shuffle" style of tracks like Freiland's "Frei". It's such a simple trick that can go so wrong in the wrong hands, but when it's done right I find it captivating. Thomas Fehlmann = especially good at it, see "Gratis" and "Streets Of Blah", as well as the glorious second track on his new album (Nick K. I definitely check for you!).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 3 October 2002 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

The Schaffelfieber comp is kind of hit or miss; I picked it up used in Boston unheard (since I like everything I have on Kompakt, which admittedly is too little). I love the Bolz Bolz track "Groupies", though it sounds like it's almost in 6/8 time rather than a strict shuffle-tech groove. W. Voight is, unsurprisingly, good at shuffle - his tracks as All (at least the few I've heard) have been uniformly satisfying.

Jess, interesting to hear you say that about Dettinger - the one track of his on Total 3 makes me really uncomfortable for some reason. It kind of feels like it's limping along - I'll try to tap out the tempo, but it never quite lines up, and it throws me off. I still haven't decided if I like it or not.

― Clarke B., Friday, 4 October 2002 05:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, not All, but M:1:5. It has to do with the 4/4 beat rubbing against a "melodic" figure in five, and the frequency of them "lining up" so to speak. Yet another alias...

― Clarke B., Friday, 4 October 2002 05:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, Tim, sorry I missed your Dettinger ? back there. If you're still wondering, I'd say Oasis is, more than anything, just plain weirder than Intershop. The beats aren't as pronounced, and they're usually composed of Oval-style pops and ticks, as opposed to a more drum machine-like beat. What makes it so trippy, though, are the all ambient sounds - almost Industrial - and the way they slip to and fro, and on and off rhythm. Very woozy indeed. Where Intershop was moody and atmospheric, Oasis is more, uh, weird. But then, you've probably heard it for yourself by now.

― Curt (cgould), Friday, 4 October 2002 18:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Thomas Fehlmann - Visions Of Blah - Kompakt

Kompakt proceed in their current state of rude good health with the latest work from Thomas Fehlmann. Ever since his formative work as Sun Electric, Berliner Fehlmann has been in the driving seat, moving and shaping, sometimes boldly and recently in a more reflective phase. His collaboration with Kompakt is highly appropriate, bringing elements of the Berlin sound to an increasingly well defined Cologne scene. The result : an ambitious, beautifully conceived album, spanning a submerged dubwise sensibility, shuffling bounced micro-house and a whole ocean of melodic sounds, just check the magnificent "Boheme Rouge" for evidence of the considered depth of this music. The eleven track cd stretches to include the recent twelve of the title track and bonus cuts. A tune like "Superbock" with its unassailable commitment to party shows exactly how far things have progressed, the processed dubs of "Making It Whistle" and "Rainbow over Stadtautobahn" lend a rosy glow to exactly what is possible. This label is pushing the envelope and Fehlmann is one of the major players in this always bright, ever evolving scene.

Source: Boomkat

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 6 October 2002 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Visions Of Blah is very good indeed, though it's got all the tracks from the two 12" so if you're already familiar with those then it's not going to be terribly surprising. I think the best thing about it is how much ground it covers, from swirly ambience to abstract dub-tech to bumping house to disorienting shuffle - not to mention that Thomas perfects each style with ease. My favourite track (disregarding the three killers from the singles, "Making It Whistle", "Gratis" and "Du Fenlst Mir") is the second one, which moves from dubby, disjointed house to deliciously funky shuffle-tech seamlessly and effortlessly.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 October 2002 07:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Did anyone tape Michael Mayer's Kompakt special that played on Radio 1 last night? Please hook me up!

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:09 (twenty-three years ago)

fuck! why did nobody mention this *before* last night?

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

You can listen to it in whole online -- no small consolation.

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:22 (twenty-three years ago)

how long do they keep it up there for?

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

how long do they keep it up there for?

DJ Martian to thread!

(He probably has it down to the minute.)

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I only listened to the last hour 1-2, it was Swayzak for me between 12-1 on Xfm (swayzak bloke with Scots accent interviewed - and then a mix)

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:48 (twenty-three years ago)

the "bbc on demand" broadcasts remain upto 7 days after broadcast - probably until the NEXT - Radio 1 one world show.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Link: BBC Radio Player - On Demand

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

is there a web site around that might help me sort out all of the great music from Germany? Every time I think I have it down, I learn that I really knew nothing! And I have been buying the music for three years now!

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha Aaron that sensation is *exactly why* German house excites me so much. However I find Boomkat to be quite helpfully comprehensive in its reviews etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone heard the Triple R/Riley Reinhold mix album yet?

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you?

― nick.K (nick.K), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you asking me?

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

ARE YOU THREATENING ME?!?!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus, nov. 27 2001!? let's see, what am I ignoring right now, maybe I can shorten up that delay of an ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR between when everyone talks about something and when I finally catch on to it.

― Dan I., Wednesday, 23 October 2002 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha Dan, Mike Taylor thinks Kompakt's been old hat since '99!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 October 2002 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so ashamed!

― Dan I., Thursday, 24 October 2002 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

dan, it's a good thing, don't worry

― ron (ron), Thursday, 24 October 2002 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Fehlmann is a goldmine - I'm so glad I picked this up, I'm so glad I know about this stuff, I'm so grateful to know of a website this cool where I can find out about it, etc., etc. I love the way he builds his tracks; my favorite microhouse (like Luomo) has this sort of stream-of-consciousness feel to it, not just layering and de-layering, but exploring something of a space - bouncing different shades and possibilites of sounds and tweakages off the skeleton of the track, which chugs along sensuously so that either way you listen to it it's wonderful.

― Clarke B., Monday, 4 November 2002 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

clarke, i want to believe you. i do. what am i missing with this record?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 November 2002 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The smartass in me wants to say "vocals". ;-)

I don't know, I just love the sort of microhouse where it feels like the producer is riding alongside you, doing little things to the track that you might not expect just to make you say "wow!" or to bring out a possibility in the sounds you may not have thought of (see the obvious-in-hindsight but stunning shift from 4/4 to shuffle on track 2) - it almost feels like you and the producer are making the track *together* that way, and I find that incredibly moving. Plus I just love the sounds he uses - warm and inviting without being cloying, sudsy and sparkly without being too shiny.

― Clarke B., Monday, 4 November 2002 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah that second track is fabulous.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 November 2002 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

TripleR : Friends :: Mixed by Riley Reinhold (Kompakt) -- My first introduction to Kompakt and an amazing journey at that (I've since purchased "Immer" and Totals "3" and "4"). Judging by what I've read in various Kompakt and/or Microhouse strings, if you're a fan of its sound, you should pick this up immediately. More vocals than one might otherwise expect, but sticks with the Kopmakt aesthetic.

― nader (nader), Thursday, 12 December 2002 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

On first listen Friends is surprisingly bracing, which may end up being a big compliment but for now I'm not quite sure. Some absolutely amazing stuff (Oxtongue's "Delight" is phenomenal) rubbing shoulders with grooves that sound awkward more than anything else. I suspect I'll end up loving it unconditionally though. Apart from being *great*, it's also *important* - this is surely the most stylistically expansive Kompakt release to date. Luciano's "Franky" sounds like Black Dog and Isolee collaborating on a submission to the Digital Disco comp!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 13 December 2002 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Immer feels more tautly mixed and themed, complete with dramatic movements (middle undulating-rhythm passage, interlude w/ "Perfect Lovers" before coda) but I suspect I like the selection of individual tracks on Friends more overall. It has a strange mix of quirky clickier tracks reminiscent of Herbert's mix with lusher stuff more typical of Kompakt. It's all less "beautiful" in the swirly sense and more cerebral (the Mayer remix almost approaching Green Velvet-level neurosis) and melancholic feeling which to me is great of course.

― Honda (Honda), Friday, 13 December 2002 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Digital Disco a good starting point with this stuff? Also are Metro Area microhouse?

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 December 2002 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

metro area aren't really microhouse, microdisco? microjazzfunk? microretrofetishists? they're micro-something, possibly, but more importantly they're ace. NEW GENRE ALERT - MICROTECHNO! has anyone here heard robert hood's "who taught you math"? picked it up finally yesterday. WOW.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 13 December 2002 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"digital disco" is a great album regardless ronan, so pick it up. it brings out the poppier side of microhouse so maybe if you purchased "immer" or something you'd get a better idea. there are other peeps on ilm who are more knowledgeable on this gear than me, however.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 13 December 2002 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I think the Metro Area song I've heard is shockingly good, when Hell mixes it into Transition on that mix it's just PERFECT.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 December 2002 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i meant "immer or something" *as well* as "digital disco", btw.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Listening to Metro Area last night they struck me as v. disco w/out being house, an odd combo these days. It's like, they picked up on some of the other rhythms in disco, the ones that didn't become the house beat, and did their own micro dissection of those.

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that sounds dead OTM from what I've heard, mark. which is extremely fascinating!

― Josh (Josh), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the main difference seems to be that for what is I guess house music, it feels really robotically groovy as opposed to soulfully so, I mean even in an electroey kind of way, it's such a locked tight groove, the same kind of thing that seems to be all over the Playgroup DJ Kicks mix.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 December 2002 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

house = the robot(computer)/soul interface.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 13 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

So, anyone hear that Speicher cd compilation?

― Omar (Omar), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

...and that lovely Michael Mayer Peel Session?

― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i was totally underwhelmed by the speicher record after one listen...but then again its a bit like expecting talk talk to top laughing stock (and yeah, i'd put immer on that level)

is that peel session floating around on mp3 omar?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know, it was passed on to me on cd-r. Let's ask Stevo where he got it.

Btw is Speicher mixed?

― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yup.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 3 April 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I wondered about it on one of the other Kompakt threads, so now I pose the question again, whatever happened to Dettinger?

― earlnash, Thursday, 3 April 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Friends buries Immer

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 3 April 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard it yet, I expect there's no possible way that Speicher could be as good as Immer or Friends considering its devoted exclusively to a certain sub-thread of Kompakt tracks rather than an exhaustive spectrum of sounds and styles. I imagine that as time goes on making sonically uniform microhouse mixes will seem increasingly wrongheaded - I mean, I love Hypercity and Pokerflat Volume II to absolute death, but considering the scene's current aesthetic of inclusiveness it's surely much more fun to draw imaginary links between opposing ideas and approaches than to stick to a straight and narrow course.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 4 April 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that's what I like about Friends--it seems boundaryless in a way that others don't; it's also incredibly cuddly and warm, just compulsively playable, I keep hearing new things in it all the time.

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Immer = Joy Division
Friends = New Order

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 4 April 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

yes!

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

lol!

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 4 April 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(It's not just 'cause Perfect Lovers reminds me of Atrocity Exhibition either -- but that's part of it.)

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

What's new & interesting (& pop) on Kompakt? Wanting to order Friends, but with shipping & etc I'd feel guilty not picking up something else at the same time.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Sunday, 4 May 2003 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

have you heard the kaito record ess or it's beat-less counterpart? very good.

also, big shouts to stevo for providing an mp3 copy of the mayer peel session

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 May 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

chk the new Tobias Tomas mix...

― nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 4 May 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

if i e-mail stevo, might he tell me how to get this mp3 copy of the mayer peel session?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 4 May 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

haha all my confusion about whether the kaito album was called special life or special love is cleared up in two-different-albums shockah. considering my health has just been savaged & it's possible I might end up in hospital followed by a long convalescence . . . might try & get special love, just in case.

& is Smallville what yr talking about, nick?

― Ess Kay (esskay), Sunday, 4 May 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

mentioned on the latest boomkat mailout, more info:

Tobias Thomas - Smallville Mix CD
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?merchID=10435

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

The Peel Sessions mix is amazing. It's this sustained 30-minute argument as to why shuffle-tech should take over the entire world, and it's pretty convincing. The more I'm exposed to shuffletech the more I suspect that it forms the experimental (vs pop-mental) center of the Kompakt aesthetic: a slight shift to the groove-construction that nonetheless a) sounds totally different to a normal house/techno groove; and b) makes every single subsequent twist (adding vocals, weird samples, certain types of basslines etc.) sound totally revelatory in a way it couldn't in a normal track. It's like, imagine house/techno as a rubix cube, now turn the top and the bottom layers to diagonals and you have a shuffle track - weird jutting spikes, difficult angles, odd depressions, and overall an increased musical surface area in which to wreak havoc.

Does anyone have a tracklisting for it? Those last two tracks are possibly the best ten minutes of music I've heard this year. Is the first of those a Thomas Fehlmann production?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 4 May 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Peel Session?!?! is this going to be an actual Kompakt release?

I dunno if shuffle-tech should take over the world but it's quite nice when mixed back and forth with straight or electro tunes (point b above). Have you heard the Areal mix Bis Neun, Tim? Some interesting shuffling going on there...Was Reinhard Voight the first artist to swing his beats this way? Is shuffle actually rooted in the Kompakt aesthetic? The last Baby Ford single on Sender has a massive triplet bassline over straight beats and it's fecking great.

To answer the Dettinger question above: he's credited with the digital edit (IIRC) on the Speicher mix. I would love to hear some new stuff by him as well...

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Mikkel Metal - Testan
2. Superpitcher - Grace aka Track Of The Year 2003 (IMHO)
3. Quarks - I Walk (Superpitcher Mix)
4. Waverman - Wir
5. Michael Mayer und Reinhard Voigt - Unter Null
6. Raumwohnung - Ich Weiss Warum (T.Raumschmiere remix)

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 5 May 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Guh.. must... get hands on Peel Session... now.

I HIGHLY recommend Mikkel Metal's two 12"s on Echocord, which I prefer to his Kompakt 12".

Didn't the Superpitcher track come out on the first Speicher in 2001? (Not that I should argue.)

Waverman -- is that another W Voigt alias or something?

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

let's list more "shuffletech" tracks:

* akufen - psychometry, what b1? the long one, also b3, the out-of-time last one
* the sascha funke track on Total 3
* the areal track with the muted trumpet

haha i am forgetting all the names... bouncy bouncy bouncy bounce!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't the Superpitcher track come out on the first Speicher in 2001?

Probably. Okay I'll change it to my personal favorite track of the moment.

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I promise I won't tell anyone, Omar.

- Peter Grummich's Gear, on Auftrieb (possibly my favorite of 'em all)
- Mikkel Metal's Divilo, on Echocord (up there with any of the Psychometry madness)
- The A-side of Auftrieb's Ballerland, on Kreisel 99 (almost acid-shuffle)
- The first track on Das Album by Pentax (Burial Mix gone shuffle)

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

phewww...I just checked and it's Wavermann (with zee double n according to Stevo).

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like that new-ish Michael Mayer Speicher mix CD.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't heard the Bis Neun comp but I def. want to! "Grace" is from a while back but I can understand why Omar loves it.

Obv. that whole middle section of Immer is shuffle, from the Ewan Pearson "Ping Pong Beats" (perfect description!) remix of Stargazer's "You Don't Need A Weatherman" through to "Psychometry Vol 3.0". There's also Kompakt's shuffletech comp from a few years back which I haven't heard 'cos Andy said it's not very good, and large swathes of the Thomas Fehlmann album - the absolute essential examples being "Superbock" and "Gratis". Also Freiland's "Frei" on Total 4.

I think it's very much a sound still in development. The older examples tend to sound slightly awkward and a bit jarring, but those last two tracks on the Peel Sessions mix in particular offer a fascinating glimpse into how producers are now able to achieve a gorgeous and graceful (but still driving) lilt. It's a music that has huge potential for warp'n'weave effect (to bite something Reynolds said about Orbital a while back - in fact I think Orbital could probably do amazing things in shuffle mode) - it's the forces of friction, contrast and complement between the different elements within the groove that make it so compelling. And then the Superpitcher remix of "I Walk" suggests this whole new formula for the disco-punk equation, 'cos shuffle fits in really well with the leaden drone of early Stereolab style kraut-pop.

The other really really great thing about that T. Raumschmiere remix on the Peel Sessions mix is the use of sudden bursts of jagged mechanical rhythm loops, particularly at the end where they're overlaid with the shuffle-4/4 - suggesting a huge unexplored area of syncopated techno-pop just waiting to be tapped into.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the question is...how much longer do we have to wait for total 5?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the schuffle thang is going to go ballistic this year. every time i dj, these are the tracks that are getting the biggest response - in particular superpitcher's 'irre' and superpitcher / quark's - 'i walk'. it's interesting to see non microhouse producers having a bash at it too - see goldfrapp.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

HA! Funny I hadn't thought of Goldfrapp's new stuff as being shuffle-ish, but it def. is! Or rather, they've tried to do something else (pounding 4/4 with a glam-rock swing) which has ended up being almost the same thing. "I Walk" and "Train" would segue together so well.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

so has anyone got the mayer peel session on slsk?

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

mitch, toby - mail me for mayer/slsk info.

― stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i played 45 minutes of straight kompakt on my radio show today - immer, totals 2 and 3, kaito - special love, thomas fehlmann. callers: "this is boring" "it's got no hooks" "i normally like your show a lot more".

i am sad.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

This stuff is very hard to find in San Francisco! I'm looking for CDs, not vinyl. I should probably just order from ... where? ForcedExposure?

My favorite dance-specialist place, BPM, had the Tobias Thomas one but on first hearing I wasn't excited. (It was boring, had no hooks -- kidding!)

But I've been hoping for months I'd find Immer somewhere. Places probably had it, sold out, and didn't restock (?)

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of shuffle (who came up with this term, btw? how long has it been in circulation?), a couple fantastic new shuffle-tech tunes coming out. One is Jonas Bering's "Down to Big Sur" on Sentrall 003. Essentially sounds like a Kompakted version of Stereolab's "Transona Five" -- which, if you think about it, is a pretty bloody obvious move, and I don't know why no one did it before this.

Also in a very similar vein, surprisingly, is The Emperor Machine's (AKA Andy Meecham) "SH3A" on Depth Charge (!) -- a chugging triplet rhythm, big floppy snare drums, and wet melty synths dribbling all over everything. Has a crisper feel and cleaner definition than some of the Kompakt shuffle-tech, but it works very well with them.

I'm actually putting together a mix of shuffle tunes myself - if you're interested, email me and I'll see if there's a way of posting an MP3 or, failing that, doing a good ol' CD trade.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Kompakt put out that Schaffelfieber ("shuffle fever") compilation in late 2000. I think disco stu might be right in thinking Reinhard Voigt was the first -- if not one of the first, at the very least -- to develop shuffle-tech. Some of the Pentax tracks from the late '90s have those qualities.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 8 May 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

so has anyone heard tobias thomas' smallville mix? (i am downloading it now.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like to hear that mix philip,if you post it somewhere will you put the url up here?
i find it weird listening to this sort of stuff track by track,which is why i find the total obsession so weird (although i am downloading total three at the moment,but in general i'd sooner hear it mixed)so i'd like to hear more mixes
immer is great and that first tobias thomas one is exceptional,i must try and get that new one...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

also i'm listening to drei auf drei by sascha funke now,what is meant by shuffletech?
how does it differ from the other stuff?

― robin (robin), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ego Express - "A Piece of the Action"
sounds like Steely Dan doing the shuffle

also M5 by Maurizio is sorta shuffle-techy! the hi-hat is about as straight-up as you can get but the bassline works --

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

So far, I like Smallville about as much as I like Thomas' first mix -- it's not up there with Immer or Friends though.

That's not Erlend Oye doing the "Ghost Trains" vocal over Kaito, is it?

"Drei auf Drei" is much closer to Aril Brikha or even something on Delsin than shuffle-tech.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Smallville on Kompakt? what's the rel. date (or is it already out?)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

it's already out, apparently. (in other musics new releases this week.)

and yeah, it's oye, andy.

i still can't see why everyone is creaming so hard over friends; it's good but i just can't make that jump.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Friends really lags in the middle. It starts and ends perfectly, but I get bored in the middle stretches...

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Robin, Tim F. elaborated a bit on another thread.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

now you know how I feel about Immer, Jess

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Me and you both Matos. It's a Mercedes with anti-skid brakes - not enough surprises.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean I like it. But its magnificent suspension system smoothes over too many bumps. It takes a looooong time to get from 0-60 don't it? Can I overextend this metaphor any further? Eh. I like it but it doesn't grab me as being so much different from a particularly low-key tech-house comp. Its hypnotic sheen just kinda ends up making not really pay much attention to it.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But I'm not really digging Total 3 that much these days so maybe I'm losing my Kompakt faith completely.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

have you been listening to it a lot? (the "genre" i mean.) i find that i binge for a while and then i don't want to hear any of it for like a month or two and fear that i have suddenly lost my taste for minimal-whatever.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

can someone tell me about Treibstoff recordings? i just heard a promo mix from last year. distributed bu Kompakt. Has a couple of moments.

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

to me the signal difference between Immer and Friends is that Immer's selections don't do much in themselves but are really different from each other, while Friends's selections are fairly uniform but have more going on within each track

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

also, Immer is very dry whereas Friends is very wet; this is always a deciding factor w/me

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been listening to a lot of Sascha Funke and Areal and more muscular tracks, so yeah, Immer comes off too polite for me - is there a word for "polite brooding"? Anyhow the main thing is the mix: what makes Mayer so good on his tracks, his patience and deliberation, may work against him as an "exciting" selector. It doesn't seem like he's reacting to himself or becoming surprised. As beautiful as the tracks are and as technically skilled as Mayer clearly is each note and shift sounds like it was planned weeks in advance.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Know what you mean about Mayer's mixing, Tracer. On the one hand he makes nods to the Herbert style of fluidly mixing together totally different sounding tracks, but on the other hand he mixes them together so well that it ends up sounding like Sasha & Digweed anyway (on the Peel Sessions mix he is def. the Sasha & Digweed of shuffletech). That said that sense of a lack of surprise doesn't strike me as necessarily bad - it's kind of like a dream where objectively quite odd stuff happens but the experience of it seems really natural and unsurprising.

The "polite brooding" aspect of Immer strikes me as romantic mysteriousness; I think if it was more muscular the incredibly delicate balance would be lost. Maybe you'd like the Speicher mix more Tracer; I haven't heard it myself but if "Love Is Stronger Than Pride" and "Unter Null" are anything to go by then it's a pretty full-on headfuck ("Unter Null" is fucking stunning!).

Friends is great, but I'd say it's up there with rather than actually better than Immer... the dry/wet dichotomy doesn't strike me as particularly strong, although yeah Friends does have a few more slurpy sounds at work.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 8 May 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

oh good! The problem I sometimes have with Immer has been articulated! I've been saying to myself 'it's too damn seamless', but then I think 'hang on, how the fuck can THESE tracks be seamless?!' You have to be in the right frame of mind for it, and on your own. But when you are, Mayer is God.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Friday, 9 May 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"That said that sense of a lack of surprise doesn't strike me as necessarily bad - it's kind of like a dream where objectively quite odd stuff happens but the experience of it seems really natural and unsurprising."

Ha ha: Immer as context of abundance vs Friends as lotsa free lunches?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 9 May 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

or even more plainly: Immer is too fucking goth to suit me

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Just d/l'ed the 2Raumwohnung track that ends the Mayer mix, and all I can say is "damn"...

Damn.

It's good. Mayer's done some sort of pitch-tweaking (and probably some other sonic fuckery that I'm not picking up on first listen) which makes it work very well in his mix, but the un-Mayered version is better. Brighter, more spangly and jumpy.

Errr, if you decide to (soul)seek it out, make sure you get the T Raumschmiere mix, not the original album cut (which is okay, but missing that oomf, which is perhaps the "shuffle" that everyone is gabbing about...?).

Okay, I've had enough of typing out long, unwieldly German words that I don't understand. Time to get back to "work."

― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

and yes, Tim, Friends is one free lunch after another, starting with that backward whooshing sound at the top of the first track (where it sounds like a record being backdropped under the needle, understated but dramatic and perfect, lets us know we're going somewhere else now)

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i just got the thomas fehlmann album for $5 and it's gr8. i'm amazed at how often i'm able to find ilm favourite records in the jb hifi bargain bin (eg: trina, foxy brown, an artful dodger mix and i know there's more. i also got bobby digital but everyone hates digi.

an hr or two later... hmm i started a bobby digital thread but forgot to submit this post)

― minna (minna), Friday, 9 May 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

must get to jb hifi more.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i really, really like this thomas mix...but its pretty goth

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Immer is too fucking goth to suit me

No wonder I like it! (More of everything should be goth to annoy non-goths.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Neddypie: You should check out Lawrence's self-titled album on Ladomat. If that isn't goth-house, I don't know what is. (It also helps that it's very wonderful.)

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

*merry* But call me Neddypie again and I will find you and kill you, Andreaweeniesweetie.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

who said I was annoyed? just don't like it as much as you all seem to

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i take it back, it's actually EMO

(maybe even moreso than friends which has that dntel remix)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

it's dolphin house!

― disco stu (disco stu), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

would somebody *please* make immer available on drumbeat... i've been queued up for about three days now. i'm not exaggerating.

nice call on "dolphin house," disco stu.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I think Immer is fantastic. The "dryness", the "goth" that Matos describes is everything I like about it. But really, I'm not sure I even get the goth comment; basically the orchestral break into "Perfect Lovers" is the only section like that. I love that part, but admit "Perfect Lovers" goes on a little too long (normally this type of breathless vocal would put me off, but it works brilliantly in this context; I just think he lets it run on a bit). I'm actually so in love with the thing I fear Friends (which I've not heard) will be a letdown.

Part of it though is due to the circumstances under which I first heard it. After purchasing the cd, putting it my discman and riding the subway, walking the mile or so from the station to my flat in the dark, etc. The birdsounds at the beginning of "Weatherman" floored me, the shuffle-tech portion made me delirious, the orchestral section abrupt and moving. I have strong visual memories of exactly which streets I was walking down and where when each of these sections came on; the Mahler part while I was walking through a transfer tunnel between two subway lines. I realize the whole thing is goofily subjective. Perhaps I was just in an eager, receptive mood, but the whole thing grabbed me in a way music seldom does anymore.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 9 May 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"music seldom does" = I don't wanna make it sound like I'm an overly cynical bastard, because I like tons of new music; I'm talking fanboy giddyness, repeated plays, genuine excitement.

Oh yeah, I wanted to say re: Tracer and Tim's comments on the mixing; I dunno it strikes me that some of the transitions are fairly abrupt. It's not like seamless beatmixing; tracks don't bubble up and fade back. The transitions are jarringly obvious and one of the few minor faults I had on first hearing (just speaking to the actual mix between tracks not the selection), but now I could give a toss.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 9 May 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i listened to all three today (immer, friends, and smallville), and friends sounds 100x better on headphones than on my box (much like superlongevity which i tend to zone out on when i play it on my stereo.)

also, note to kompakt: MORE vocals, not LESS

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 9 May 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Kompakt: The Thread That Will Not Die

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think headphones are urgent and key with this stuff, yeah.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks philip :)

if anyone is interested in hearing any of this stuff, there are several sets up at beta lounge featuring artists mentioned in this thread:

10/05/02 Carsten Jost and Lawrence (i relate to the goth comments earlier altho it's more space goth than anything - first and last and always this is not, the critical compare and contrast notwithstanding)
03/23/02 Michael Mayer

there are a host of other great sets, too (particularly the hamburg city sessions - trevor jackson).

re headphones: yeah, but mostly this shit makes me want to shake my ass in a smoky fucked up club late at night. it's sophisticated yet fucked up and not preening. i have to wonder what the triple r sets in tokyo were like...

― disco stu (disco stu), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

can i make an admission here? last night i walked into tower, looked at "immer" intently for about five minutes, and bought the new crydamoure mix instead.

someone please convince me that crydamoure/roule/motorbass don't carry all the charge microhouse does and then some. isn't kompakt the new detroit techno, to french house's totally improbable endless goodness? does this deserve it's own thread (ts: daft punk vs. the universe)?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 10 May 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Who's that doing the cover of Nico's "These Days" about nine minutes into the Beta Lounge Michael Mayer set? The voice sounds familiar . . . and the pronunciation of "failures" as "failers" is choice.

― locus solus, Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Immer to death, but in more dour moods I wonder if the two Superpitcher mixes aren't like two big spires that hold it up like a suspension bridge.

Must get paws on Mayer Peel Sessions and T. Thomas!

― Andy, Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, when is Superpitcher going to put out a fucking mix already? we're dying here!

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 10 May 2003 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Is a Kompakt POX in order?

― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 10 May 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the whole schuffle thing goes way back to mike ink's love inc. days on force inc where he had a serious t-rex thing going on. i think his love of glam probably kicked it all off. but i think the first 'techno' track to get this down pat was 'sugardaddy' by jimi tenor. m. mayer even goes as far as to steal it's bassline wholesale for 'unter null'.

― stirmonster, Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't kompakt the new detroit techno

no, but what if it was?

we're dying here!

Exactly. An album/compilation a la Fehlmann = urgent & key. Kompakt tend to fullfill whiches don't they? (see above ;)

― Omar (Omar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

the best kompakt stuff is as "pop" as any filter disco/electroclash/pop-house i've ever heard (m mayer's "amanda", the madonna biting track on total 2, most of their vocal stuff, really.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 May 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i have to say i never really like the vocals on kompakt tracks-they range from anonymous to cringe inducing
as for the new detroit techno thing,i've thought that as well

― robin (robin), Sunday, 11 May 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Is a Kompakt POX in order?

oooh, thought about that one too. Let's go:

1. Superpitcher - Grace
2. Closer Musik - One Two Three (No Gravity)
3. Autobianchi - All Around (Everybody's Kissing)
4. Superpitcher - Tomorrow
5. Thomas Fehlmann - Gratis
6. Michael Mayer - Hush Hush Baby
7 Kaito - Everlasting
8. The Modernist - Abi'81
9. Closer Musik - You Don't Know Me
10. Justus Kohncke - Jet

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 11 May 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

01 M. Mayer - Amanda
02 Dettinger - Blond (A2)
03 Sascha Funke - Safety First (B1)
04 Gustavo Lamas - Jovenes
05 Lawrence - French Fries
06 Voigt & Voigt - Vision 03
07 Thomas Fehlmann - Gratis
08 Superpitcher - Heroin
09 Klimek - Milk and Honey (A1)
10 Mikkel Metal - Hemper

― Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 11 May 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

critical fawning, check

bizarre serious black dudes, perhaps not check

I don't know. I prefer Crydamoure/Roule/Motorbass aswell obviously, I'm not sure microhouse has the same purpose as that though, even if what Jess says is true.

How is the Crydamoure mix Vahid? I am looking forward to hearing it bigtime.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not Vahid but I think the Crydamore mix is excellent.

― Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

SEARCH: ferenc - "yes sir, i can hardcore"...kompakt goes "mentasm"...micro-1990.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

if you crossed andy and omar's POX's you'd have mine

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Cool Andy, Archigram are wicked, Carnival was such a cool record last year, shame so few DJs picked up on it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i just picked up "Trance Atlantic Excess" single (1991) by Mike Ink and goddamn it's good. B-sides would be called microhouse if they came out now (except for the massive fuck-off snare-rolls haha), the A-side is total acid journey with zero percussion, hi-hat, or snare, just a kick for like 10 minutes and swarming evil synths

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The crydamoure mix is quite good, though it doesn't have the same sort of lock-and-swirl trippiness of the best tracks on the first comp. (i'm thinking tracks like le knight club's "gator" and "coral twist") and nothing as genre-fucking as deelat's "wet indiez".

i'm still disappointed with "speicher", though i'm warming up to it - the wasserman remix in particular helps.

has anybody else got the m:i:5 album (the old acid green one)? i think it's retarded.

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 11 May 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, does that track actually exist, cos it sounds like it could be the second best thing ever (first best thing ever being Tracer's Mike Ink rekkid w/evil swarming acid goo all over it)?

― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard the new Crydamoure comp yet, but if there's even one track as good as "Wet Indiez" or that Wrath of Jupiter track I'm so there.

I'd be really surprised if any of the people who love Kompakt didn't also fucking love French House. I wouldn't have thought that there was a choice to be made here.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 11 May 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

ricky it actually does exist...i just downloaded it today.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 May 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

There's gonna be a second Shafflefeiber compilation released at the end of the month - here's hoping that this one lives up to its own promise. Eagerly await the tracklisting.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 5 June 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

four weeks pass...

Oh no, Schaffelfieber 2 = not what I expected. Disappointment with Superpitcher and Mayer tracks, pleasantly surprised by the Naum and Node1 tracks. Of course, Wasserman (Wolfgang) is on form, and was impressed by the tracks bringing in vocals: Robag + Wighnomy Bros and International Pony vs Losoul are both trying something new, with degrees of success. But nothing as arresting as tracks on the total series or mixes. Either they're saving up for Total 5? Or I'm just more accustomed to their sound and expect too much. In any case, I'll have another listen.

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 4 July 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

is this out? i haven't been able to find it. glad you like the naum track - glaswegian schaffel is going to take over!

― stirmonster, Friday, 4 July 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"trying something new" = shuffletech twisted further?

― Ess Kay (esskay), Saturday, 5 July 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

looking at the tracklisting - I remember that T.Raumschmiere remix & the Mikkel Metal being excellent, & what I've heard so far of the International Pony vs Losoul is interesting (if not as shuffletech-as-vocal-science-y as I would have liked, but the bouncing ball of acid goo effect is nice) - if you haven't put all yr hopes on Superpitcher & Mayer, it seems pretty decent.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Saturday, 5 July 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Naum's "Issimo" has these compressed-air beats, more goo, what sounds like an upright bass made of titanium, then what sounds like Dr Who stumbling into the middle of an acid house party full of dancing policemen.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Saturday, 5 July 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

whoa. I almost never ask for track spots, but what is that tune that comes in at around 2:03:00 in the Michael Meyer betalounge set. That's an absolute killer...!!!

― tylero, Saturday, 5 July 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm really enjoying Schaffelfieber 2 on first listen, ESPECIALLY the mayer and superpitcher tracks...mmmm big dopey narcotic synth washes take me away...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 7 July 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

:::drool:::

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 7 July 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a HUGE improvement over the first.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the superpitcher track on speicher 9 is v. nice as well. they really need to put out an lp.

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 7 July 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

it's like it took them this long to realize they could marry the shuffle with ear pleasing textures.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 7 July 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I wound up making my own Superpitcher album. Got tired of waiting.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 7 July 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

tracklisting? :)

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 7 July 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Irre
Fieber
Don't Think too Much
Hysteria
Stealing Beauty
Grace
Softmachine
More Tomorrow
More Heroin

With the exception of "Softmachine," I left off the tracks that've appeared on the CD comps. "Heroin" and "Time to Cry" are obviously absent; I've got my reasons.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 7 July 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

nice comp -

Don't Think Too Much = TUNE

I play that on a recent-ish mix I made...

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 7 July 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah thanks for the idea Andy, though I had to include Time To Cry and Heroin as "bonus" tracks. Heroin is a perfect melancholic closer.

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

me on shuffle-tech and this record (provided blogger don't fuck up)...i really do think this record is nearly perfect, and yet and yet...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The Peel Session is the most perfect thing I've heard (and keep hearing each morning when I go for my shower) all year - especially the last track's skippy blippy drums and interwoven sexy German vox. Any idea who that track is by?

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Pop band 'missing link' between the shuffletech - glam rock continuum: Goldfrapp's latest?

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, scratch that they're not a 'link' per se as a contiguous branch of the same thread.

― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Heroin is a perfect melancholic closer.

100% agreed -- but the more dancefloor-friendly version closes out the fake album 'cause I'm partial to the original as the ending to one of my favorite personal mixes.

Any idea who that track is by?

The answer's upthread Cozen!

I'm pretty sure they've been conscious of the glam-shuffle link all along -- see Jurgen Paape's "Ballroom Blitz," etc. I could swear 'glam' is in the title of at least one shuffletech track, but I'm not completely positive.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

out of curiosity-are most of you listening to kompakt albums in one go?
does anyone go to clubs that play this type of music?
or mix it?

― robin (robin), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Perlon's more popular 'round this neck of the woods (seems like one of 'em's here every week) but uh, yeah -- yes to all three.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i mix it!

here's the tracklisting for the mix i mention just upthread -

oliver hacke - dusk
richard davis - breathe
junkie sartre & hexquart - prozac
jeff samuel - kapstif
superpitcher - don't think too much
carl a finlow - daydreamer
rework - loin de moi
scsi-9 - e-lastic
silicon scally - the love inside
richard davis - meaning
carsten jost - krokus stewart walker remix
recloose - get there tonight
freeform five - perspex sex ewan's mix
swayzak - celsius
smith'n'hack - to our disco friends
scsi-9 - digital summer
quarks - i walk supertpitcher schaffel mix
carl a finlow - hardwired
sensorama - ping pong
lil' louis and the world - club lonely

robin (or anyone else for that matter), if you want a copy, email me...it's admittedly not too heavy on the kompakt stuff, but there's a few nice bits there. i would put it up on the web if i could find some decent hosting space/bandwidth.

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 7 July 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm sure the glam connection has been discussed before. mike ink aka wolfgang voigt released an album on force inc. circa 1995/6 that made his glam obsession very apparent, from the cover artwork to the t-rex sampling proto schaffelbeat.

and robin, i play and mix lots of this type of music

― stirmonster, Monday, 7 July 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

jess blogging again = niceness.

I honestly never considered a glam / shuffle connection but of course it's right there in your face. Huh. I mean, in terms of beat, then, you sort of have to go back to tons of old electric Chicago blues. West Side stuff like Otis Rush and Magic Sam. And of course Texan Freddie King rules it on instrumental tracks like "Hideaway" and "High Rise".

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the glam is there in that some of the shuffle tracks just have this "i am wearing leather pants and huge gold glittery boots and i am going to swagger on by and step on you if you get in my way" type feel. the mirror ball becomes a huge wrecking ball wielded by a hentai t. rex.

― disco stu (disco stu), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i heard some of it on that optimo cd you sent me stirmonster,it was really good
that reminds me,i must listen to that cd again,haven't heard it in a month or so...

― robin (robin), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

heh, i just listened to that today.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

the akufen/johnny cash thing is great

― robin (robin), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, disco stu, I think I was taking the claim a little too literally and I understand what was meant, but I got to thinking that there is a formal linkage; that the beat of something like "Blockbuster" or "Rock & Roll, pt. 2" has that shuffling quality...

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

that track off total 3 with the german woman singing,track 11 i think,is one of the most amazing things i've ever heard

― robin (robin), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

for a brief (1.7mb) audio example of the glam / schaffel connection, go here and download the glam=schuffle mp3

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

well, see, there ya go.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i LOVE kompakt stuff.

start with total 3 or total 4 ... total 2 is even good too.
dettinger - "intershop" is a classic as well.

― tk, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The "The Dream Of Evan And Chan (Superpitcher Kompakt Remix)" is a really nice song I just happened to come across on kazaa.

― fletrejet, Thursday, 10 July 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The shuffletech/glam connection is getting stronger all the time, but Jess's post is correct in noting that there's so many other contexts in which shuffle works as well. I haven't heard the new Shaffelfeiber comp yet but Borneo & Sporenburg's "Boys In Shorts" is pretty wonderful pastoral-shuffletech, like an '03 update of Ultramarine - all scintillating guitar washes and synth hums (actually it also reminds me a bit of Janet Jackson's "Someone To Call My Lover"). Instead of the messy drug haze stomp that shuffle assumes on the glammier track, here its bumpy-pummel is more of a lazy, sunstroked summer afternoon vibe. Conversely that T. Raumschmiere mix suggests a rudely burping steelworks. This is what I love about shuffle: the rhythms are so suggestive of something non-house, often even something non-musical, but it's all dependent on their specific context. The actual potential range is enormous and kaleidoscopic.

(yay for Jess as well!)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 12 July 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway...[pauses for dramatic effect]...Total 5 is on its way.
Yep, the cover is dark blue (as spotted in the Kompakt ad in De:Bug).

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 13 July 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

omar i kiss you

(somehow i knew thats what this thread revival would be about)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 13 July 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

has anyone heard the new stuff being put out on kompaktpop? i only know of two, oxtongue - delight and phong sui - wintermute. unfortunately my record store soldout of oxtongue but it looks like i'll be getting the phong sui later this week..

― jason m. (jason m), Sunday, 13 July 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Just took a second look and the cover actually is dark purple (I was a bit confused and already could hear Andy go "but...but... Total 1 is dark blue! ;) Now the hunt is on for the actual tracklisting. Any predictions? :)

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 13 July 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

all the good singles already ended up on the schaffelfeiber 2 comp!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 13 July 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

also top humor from kompakt's website: "with vocals this style will surely surpass 2-step as the hottest rhythm today." - de:bug on the first schaeffelfieber comp

― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 13 July 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the two Kompakt Pop releases thus far, but neither have bowled me over. The two Oxtongue mixes hardly come close to the greatness of the original. Never cared for the Phong Sui original, though the Superpitcher and Burger/Voigt (Burger/Ink reunion?!) mixes of that track have a good deal of bite.

Possibilities for Total 5 (the first Total-less August will be devastating):

Phong Sui - Wintermute [Superpitcher Mix]
Ferenc - Yes Sir, I Can Hardcore [M. Mayer Mix]
Justus Kohncke - Weiche Zaune (hopefully this is favored over the A-side)
Joachim Spieth - Ich (A1)
Jonas Bering - Normandie 1
Mikkel Metal - Testan (the five Echocord releases thus far are all great, btw)
Jake Fairley - Motor
Superpitcher - More Heroin
M. Mayer - Bring It Back or Speaker
The Orb - Gee Strings (might as well have all three tracks from the 12" appear on CD)

And of course I'm anxious to see what exclusives will be included on the different formats.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 14 July 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha Kompakt releasing a record called "Wintermute" = total vindication!

Meanwhile can someone post the tracklisting for Schaffelfieber 2?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

WIGHNOMY BROS & ROBAG WRUHME-Bodyrock 
SUPERPITCHER-To Turn You On
KOMEIT-3 Hours (T Raumschmiere Dream Baby mix)
PAUL NAZCA-Emotion (M Mayer mix)
NODE 1-State Zero
NAUM-Issimo
WASSERMAN-Strasser
THE ORB-Cool Harbour
SCSI 9-All She Wants Is (Wighnomy Bros mix)
INTERNATIONAL PONY vs LOSOUL feat MALTE-International Snootleg
MIKKEL METAL-Hemper

― Angus Gordon (angusg), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

just thought i'd mention that i really dig that jonas bering - normandie 12". y'all should check it. (hopefully one of the tracks will make it on Total 5)

― jason m. (jason m), Thursday, 17 July 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

kompakt total 5 - dbl lp/cd - 08.04.03

the line up:

scsi-9
t. raumschmeire
the modernist
t. fehlmann
m. mayer
r. voigt
neib
superpitcher
jonas bering
justus kohncke
mikkle metal
joachim spieth
phong sui

now who wants to guess trax?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

have all the kompakt fans on this board died?!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 July 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

no! I'm lingering over the back catalogue. Is no one else pleased that Tom picked up on Speaker, (yes, yes Sneaker on the flip could have been the A-side) He should be told about 'Love is Stronger Than Pride', it's an almighty club track.
Also I was playing out with Total 3 the other night and it occurred to me - 'Why even mix off this record, just play inside the album and mess with the levels' [cue tumbleweed]

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 21 July 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone know which mahler syphony it is on immer?

― robin (robin), Monday, 21 July 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

it's mahler's fifth symphony

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 21 July 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Total 5 CD:

SCSI-9 - All She Wants Is
Superpitcher - Mushroom
Phong Sui - Wintermute [Buger/Voigt Mix]
Justus Köhncke - Homogen
T. Raumschmiere - Total
Reinhard Voight - Leibe Deine Musik
M. Mayer - Speaker
Joachim Spieth - Nie Mehr Allein
Thomas Fehlmann - Radeln
Mikkel Metal - Nepal
Jonas Bering - Normandie 2

A good amount of new tracks!

― Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 27 July 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

if my favorite kompakt tracks are superpitcher's (specifically "fieber" from the speicher set) does that mean I don't like kompakt / have bad taste?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 28 July 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

total 5 is great as expected

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"if my favorite kompakt tracks are superpitcher's (specifically "fieber" from the speicher set) does that mean I don't like kompakt / have bad taste?"

I don't understand why you'd think that. Superpitcher is as much a flagship Kompakt artist as any other.

"total 5 is great as expected"

Jess you really are that fucker ;-) More details plz!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

first impressions:

favorite traxx are the superpitcher, scsi-9, phong sui, and mikkel metal, though the superpitcher track is sadly not a cover of the can song as i had hoped. (or, as josh said, the super mario brothers theme song.)

least fave is by far the r. voight. i understand why kompakt feels the need to continue to record and release these minimalist, metallic club bangers but they're not for me. more breath-braiding-beauty please.

all in all it feels a bit like a drop off from the last three but their basic quality control is still freakishly high.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(big up nick.K as always for being slsk point with the newness)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

also, kom-fans, the scsi-9 album on force tracks is worth your time if a bit samey in places.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

it reminds me of a more subtle take on the original dub-hiccup micro-house sound and mid-90s so-clean-you-can-eat-off-it trance.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

...does anyone really listen to any of the kompakt [or for that matter ,any labels] copilations more than a couple of times? as a general rule of thumb,i find that most comps don't hold my attention for long.

dettinger - oasis & markus guenter - in moll are two of my favourites from kompakt.

― william (william), Monday, 28 July 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i relisten to all the totals (except the first) constantly

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

what's it like on the vocal tip? & great tracklisting - more new tracks than I figured.

(& re-listen to the totals I own - really good in an around-the-house kinda way, & I break out the "all around (everybody's kissing)" at as many parties as possible.)

― etc, Monday, 28 July 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

'Mikkel Metal - Nepal' has been doing it for me since I got it, anyway I gave it a test drive on Saturday night with favourable results. I'm not completely sold, but then I again I've heard all the songs before and I'm expecting the hear individual tracks differently when I listen through a little more, let them distinguish themselves and the detail soak through.
Also - William, I listen to Total 3 and 4 as whole albums.

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 28 July 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the justus kohncke track (which i had heard before but sounds way different in context) could be the most straight up housey thing they've ever done...it sounds like filter disco crossed with archigram

not too many vocals this time around, sadly

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

2 after 909 by kohncke is amazing like house on quaaludes and a horizon that stretches to infinity

― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 28 July 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I had that Kohncke track mis-identified for some reason. I definitely prefer it over the other one from that 12".

Strongo are you familiar with Daniel Wang's Balihu label? Some of the earlier ones he did ("Rooftop Boogie," "In a Golden Haze," "Like Some Dream I Can't Stop Dreaming" in particular) are in a similar territory -- all great too.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 28 July 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"...scsi-9 album on force tracks is worth your time if a bit samey in places..."

"...a more subtle take on the original dub-hiccup micro-house sound and mid-90s so-clean-you-can-eat-off-it trance..."

(You've officially whet my appetite, Strongo) >> Tell me more!

(Or might you have deeper details on your 'blog?)

― nader (nader), Monday, 28 July 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

And can anyone tell me why Force Tracks is so weak on the audio samples? (Sadly I have limited access to a PC and SLSK for Mac just ain't cuttin' the mootard.)

― nader (nader), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

The Web site of Force Tracks, that is.

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

superpitcher's mushroom is absolutely transcendent.

― todd burns (toddburns), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yea!
I love this stuff and am listening to smallville mix by tobius tomas rightnow.
Its so hard to get hold of regularly though. Anyone else live in LA and shop for this stuff? I go to amoeba here and they make a "oh here he goes again" face when I ask for any of the Kompakt releases.
Does anyone like MRI on force tracks?
"All that glitters" has some great moments.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 7 August 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone else live in LA and shop for this stuff? I go to amoeba here

Spencer to thread!

Seriously, Hector, we all need to meet up, there's a core group of ILX folks that just got together at the Momus show last week. Where do you live in LA?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

so, tobias thomas' "smallville"? should i get it? and how about that title?

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 11 August 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I like it very much, I'm no good in terms of comparing things to other recent Kompakt releases but on its own it's extremely enjoyable.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 11 August 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

it's certainly one of my favorite records of this year, possibly the one i've listened to most.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 11 August 2003 05:49 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmm, i thought total 4 was a letdown but 5 is pitiful (at least the vinyl version). the superpitcher and m. mayer tracks just pass muster but reinhard voigt needs to give it up and the jocen heib track is a freaking joke. it sounds like a three year old was played a kompakt track and then presented with a synth and a drum machine and told to write something similar. halfway through, the boredom was getting painful. by the end, i was tempted to snap the vinyl in half. straight to the top of the 'to sell' pile. must learn to stick to the 12"s.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Its so hard to get hold of regularly though"

Forced Exposure has about everything by Kompakt that is in print.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't understand why i'm "not getting" reinhard voigt, "supertiel" apparently being some sort of big hit.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't like bodyrocktechno that much?

I tend to be in agreement though - nothing Reinhard's done since his track on Total 3 has captured my imagination (that was amazing though!) unless he's working with a foil (his brother, Mayer).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

the only part of me that rocks to reinhard voigt is my inner ear.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

jess! hassle note #3!

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Kompakt 86: Andrew Thomas - Fearsome Jewel

Has anyone heard this one?

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

single or album?

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 14 September 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there's a single and an album. Apparently another ambient release.

I must say that I suspect something has been lost in Kompakt's decision to deliberately demarcate its different strengths (minimal/ambient/pop/"spiecher" techno) - surely the attraction lay in all of these being mixed up? I thjnk the reason that shuffletech now seems like their strongest area is that it still embraces all these possibilities.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 15 September 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i got smallville the other day,i really really like most of it
the jan jelinek track is really great

― robin (robin), Friday, 26 September 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

oh also disco stu's mix,mentioned upthread,is really good...

and since this is where all the minimal techno/house people end up,has anyone heard the album "baby ford and the ifach collective present sacred machine"
i picked it up when i was in london recently becaue it was only a pound and mark broom seems to have something to do with it and i was curious (other than that i know nothing about it)have only listened to it once,but the tenth track (24hr) is really great,anyone heard it?

― robin (robin), Friday, 26 September 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, i've been listening to it once or twice a week since it came out. i really like "bad friday". i have the feeling that the new richie hawtin cd is going to get the press and praise that peter ford deserves.

mark broom, on the other hand, has been going downhill ever since he started pure plastic. more abstract techno, less tribal loops please. :(

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 26 September 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Xpander report Michael Mayer mixes Fabric 13

Fabric 13 - mixed by Michael Mayer - is released on November 3, 2003. The album features music from the likes of Ricardo Villalobos, Westbam & Nena, Heiko Voss, Superpitcher a.o.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Woo-hoo! God, and I was just wondering whether to cancel my subscription to the Fabric series after that soporific Amalgamation of Soundz disc.

I guess I'll hang on for one more!

― Angus Gordon (angusg), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Xpander report Michael Mayer mixes Fabric 13
Fabric 13 - mixed by Michael Mayer - is released on November 3, 2003. The album features music from the likes of Ricardo Villalobos, Westbam & Nena, Heiko Voss, Superpitcher a.o.

i've been meaning to post about this, but forgot. i have a copy of this and it's probably the best mix meyer has ever done, in my book

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

and well, amalgamation of soundz was an absolute fuckin' stinkbomb of a record, i agree...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the heiko voss track is an absolute beauty, too. meyer's mix starts on a chugging, slowly building deep techno version and closes on its original version; a gorgeous spacey disco version driven by live drums

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

YAY!!!!!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"mark broom, on the other hand, has been going downhill ever since he started pure plastic. more abstract techno, less tribal loops please. :( "
huh,i only know mark broom cause of his association with d1,a dublin techno label...
i don't think its really tribal loops he puts out on that anyway,and it certainly isn't what he mixes,its more detroit techno,or sometimes electro
mind you,i'm not certain what tribal loops are,so what do i know?

― robin (robin), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

westbam and nina

ha ha! i love that song - pure euro stoopid melancholic pop. everyone i know laughed at me for liking it so much, so it's good to know mayer has such equally ~~bad~~ good taste.

― stirmonster, Friday, 26 September 2003 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

and yes, it's nena as in her 99 red balloons.

― stirmonster, Friday, 26 September 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Oldschool, Baby" or a new Westbam/Nena collab?

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

'old school, baby'!!!!!

― stirmonster, Friday, 26 September 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, the Andrew Thomas album is worth a listen, it won't set the dancefloors on fire, twinkling and clicking with the odd surge now and then. Wasn't too taken with it at first, but I never am with the pop ambient material, I always need to adjust to it's pace. As a concequence I'm getting back into drone music. Similar to Klimek, file under dreamy.

― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 26 September 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually think oldschool baby is one of my fave tracks on it, along with the heiko voss tunes, but ricardo villalobos' easy lee is something pretty wonderful, too. it's also a great mix coz it's not actually mixed too much, just really well sequenced in mayer's usual mixxing four bars from the end of the record style - you hear the whole tune as a tune not just as a building block for a set

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 26 September 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

sounds good. i never buy mix cds but i might make an exception for this.

― stirmonster, Friday, 26 September 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

should I go see m. mayer tonight? he's playing but it's kinda pricey for me and I have a million things to do!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 26 September 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

(thank you robin)

that's awesome news about fabric 13

― disco stu (disco stu), Friday, 26 September 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually found the cd again just after i emailed you,disco stu,i really liked it when i heard it again
a few tracks i'm not so keep on,but there's some really excellent stuff on there....

― robin (robin), Friday, 26 September 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the disco stu mix too! was just listening to the other day; remembered I'd forgot to say that i like it + thank you. though the two superpitcher-touched tracks are a bit dull by his standards.

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 26 September 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

cheers! glad you both like it...i'm surprised about your superpitcher comments as i think both of those tracks are fat fat fat. :)

― disco stu (disco stu), Saturday, 27 September 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Went to see Mayer--good fun. I love when folks like that mix it up. He played Outkast's "The Whole World" and it took a while for people to stop looking at each other and dance. I got a kick out of it.

― cybele (cybele), Saturday, 27 September 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I was there too. I really liked the part after Reinhardt Voigt set when Mayer played a bunch of "shuffle" tracks (which is when he dropped the Outkast song)

― Elliot (Elliot), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Whole World" is sort of a shuffle track, rhythmically, isn't it? I could see that fitting perfectly. super-excited about the new mix.

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup. It was nice.

― cybele (cybele), Saturday, 27 September 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone have a mayer tour itinerary?

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Mayer and Reinhard Voight are playing in Detroit tonight.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

ARE THEY COMING TO PHILADELPHIA? STOP. WHEN COME BACK, BRING PIE. STOP.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 27 September 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.montrealmirror.com/meat/music3.html

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.montrealmirror.com/meat/music3.html

http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/archives/interviews/michael_mayer.php

http://www.hour.ca/columns/c_lalla.asp

I am digging everywhere and nothing is coming up as far as a tour itinerary goes.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 28 September 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

oh why not:

top post here is my neumu review (up now) of the mayer peel session

http://ihavezeromoney.blogspot.com/

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 10 October 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

it's really great, david. i nearly started a "cozen, i kiss you" thread about it.

the matthew dear record tops nearly all of the kompakt stuff i have heard though (excepting immer and the mayer peel session).

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

where can i find that mayer peel session? Is it cataloged online somewhere?

― hector (hector), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

cozen - you should definately be up for the whorehouse this time round then - its the last (non invite) one and you, basically, can't not come.

http://www.optimo.co.uk/

click on the apple!

btw T Raushmeire is on at the Arches tonight.

over and out.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

ahhhhh i missed it!!!!

ok. i'm up for the whorehouse, jed!

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(assuming my loan check has cleared in time.)

hey yancey!

― David. (Cozen), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe, ok, the final edit on neumu is fine now w/the exception of these pointless "" marks added to the last three sentences which is essentially my fault I think. (cross of wires with michael doh)

― David. (Cozen), Saturday, 11 October 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Mayer & Reinhard Voigt U.S. tour dates

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 11 October 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

great review, david!

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 11 October 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anyone else heard that MAGNET 12" yet. I KNOW some of you have...

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 11 October 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

like your defn of microhouse david.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 11 October 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not mine but I can't remember where I (mis)remembered it from.

― David. (Cozen), Saturday, 11 October 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

What the man said-I've looked on Peel's website and can't find it anywhere. :(

― adaml (adaml), Saturday, 11 October 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yea me too and now I am dying to hear the Peel thing

by the way I just got phong sui wintermute and it is pretty awesome
it says its on Kompakt POP ?

― hector (hector), Sunday, 12 October 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

on first listen the fabric mix is excellent. anyone else heard it yet? it's on slsk...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know anything about an electro-pop comp out now on Kompakt? can't remember the name of it, but there's some great trax on there.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, 23 October 2003 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

is pop ambient 2004 out yet??? i see it's down for 10/03 at http://www.kompaktkiste.de/kompakt_koeln.htm ...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 23 October 2003 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

told ya so abt the fabric mix - it's better than immer etc coz mayer's had a wider pool of stuff to draw from and it really shows how cologn's scene works and has developed. i luv it

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 23 October 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i see that its available in dublin for the very cheap price of 10 euro,i think i'll get it as soon as i have any money...looking foreward to hearing it...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

good god that mayer mix is fabulous. i mean, seriously, wow.

around 10:15 i nearly swooned. SWOONED.

― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jurgen paapyrus

― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone check out the new DJ Koze stuff? i think he has two new records out on kompakt within a few weeks of each other and i've never heard of him before. also, i really like the new magnet "rising sun" from what i've heard of it.

― jason m (jason m), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

revive! there's a pretty neat real video/audio stream over at betalounge.com of a dj koze set from december 13th. i've still yet to get a hold of his recent kompakt releases...however jonas bering's sketches for next season and michael mayer's privat 12" are putting in overtime for me lately well enough!

― jason m (jason m), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

all of their recent twelves have blown me away. how do they do it?!

pop ambient 2004 is a bit...predictable. but lovely, nonetheless.

any news on the superpitcher and mayer full lenghts?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Superpitcher will be March to May next year, Mayer probably at the end of the year (he implied that it will be all new tracks). He's got a new EP out too, apparently.

Jess which 12s in particular?

Is the DJ Koze cd a mix? Anyone heard it?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Why all the love for Unter Null, btw?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the bering and mayer 12s jason mentioned, as well as the magnet "rising sun" 12 and dj koze's "the geklopple continues". (the magnet is amazing.) (the last few spechiers have been pretty good too.) (and the heiko voss, but everyone knows that one by now.)

x-post cuz it's purty.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Unter Null" - definitely best heard in the context of Mayer's Peel Sessions. And I totally sympathise with Jess's Jam & Spoon nostalgia. Actually wouldn't it be cool if Kaito started making shuffletech!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't got the Peel Sessions, but I find that track kind of plodding and unloveable compared to other stuff Mayer has done recently.

I used to love Jam & Spoon, but all that stuff is on cassettes back at my parents' house.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I have just (JUST!!!) gotten hold of some of this stuff (thank you slsk and broadband)...

If I list what I've enjoyed so far, give me some pointers as what I should actually purchase. I can still fit another 20 tracks onto the MD I'm making.

Baby's on fire - Superpitcher
Heroin - Superpitcher
Jackpot (K.O. Kompakt mix) - TocotronicKronberg
Track A2; Kronberg 12" - Benjamin Wild
Love to Love You - Tobias Thomas
Mushrooms - Superpitcher
One Two Three (No Gravity) - Closer Musik
Softmachine - Superpitcher
Stealing Beauty - Superpitcher
Time to Cry - Superpitcher
Tomorrow - Superpitcher
Making It Whistle - Thomas Fehlmann
Track A2; 17 Und 4 12" - Michael Mayer
I Walk (Superpitcher Shaffel Mix) - Quarks
Grace - Superpitcher
Gratis - Thomas Fehlmann
Departures - Closer Musik
Fieber - Superpitcher
Krokus (Superpitcher Remix) - Carsten Jost

Also I need help identifying 2 of the tracks I've got. I think they're both from Total 3. Here are MP3 clips of each one.

track und andere track

― Nik (Nik), Sunday, 28 December 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

actually they're complete tracks, about 5MBs each

― Nik (Nik), Sunday, 28 December 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the first one is ulf lohmann -- 'because'

the second one is closer musik -- 'departures'

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 28 December 2003 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks. and, doh! I already had that Closer Musik one worked out.

― Nik (Nik), Sunday, 28 December 2003 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Just noticed that there are a number of Mayer mixes in the archives at

http://www.paxahau.com/node.htm

The streamed versions are fairly low quality (but listenable), but it looks like (see Product -- CDs) they'll send higher quality versions on CD in exchange for donations, to the US at least.

― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Monday, 29 December 2003 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like that Justin Kohncke track, Was Ist Musik, the outro reminds me alot of the Richard X music for mobile phone advert track, actually.

I wish I had easier access to Kompakt stuff, I'd prefer a few mixes but I can only download on a track to track basis due to slow connection, and I can seldom find any of the stuff on CD here. I did get Tobias Thomas's Smallville mix over Christmas though, it is pretty great, I'm unsure how I ever thought I mightn't like any of this type of stuff. It's not really divorced from the dancefloor in any sense except perhaps if you look at a cross section of who's buying it. But that hardly matters.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 29 December 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Anyone got any details about the DJ Koze album? Is it an album-proper or a mix-cd?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Mix CD with Brinkmann, Isolee, Mr. Oizo... (that's all I can remember).

The Superpitcher album is called Here Comes Love.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Sorry that album title just got me very excited.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The feeling is mutual

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it too much to hope for any other info?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Managed to find a tracklisting for DJ Koze:

DJ Koze - All People Is My Friends

1. Solitude Sea - World Standard und Wechsel Garland
2. The Long And Winding Road - Langley Schools Music Project
3. I Was Yours - The Christians And Konrad Sprenger
4. My Favourite Shop - Jan Jelinek Avec The Exposures
5. 80SC 7SEQ - Jackmate
6. Last Night A DJ Killed My Dog - Mr. Oizo
7. Lost - Isolee
8. Meet U In Brookly - Fabrice Lig
9. Isch - Thomas Brinkmann
10. Waiworinao - Ricardo Villalobos
11. For Disco Play Only - Smith'n Hack
12. Typerope - Mathew Jonson
13. In Tyrannis - Grungerman
14. Gekloeppel B2 - DJ Koze

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

More Typerope! And Lost is on there -- excellent.

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Langley Schools - ha ha try explaining the Kompakt aesthetic now!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

haha wtf?!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

up next shooby taylor the human horn acapellas over jurgen paape.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

more ?!?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I almost wish this was something I'd made up as it would be an excellent little joke.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

15. Wild Man Fischer - Monkeys Vs. Donkeys
16. Edgar Broughton Band - Evil
17. Reinhard Voigt - Protekt

― Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 15 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird, Mr Oizo, and that Smith N Hack tune is fucking cool! Also I like Lost by Isolee.

Yes another CD I won't be able to find. Need credit card/broadband.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 January 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the upcoming pass into silence 12" should be good..

― jason m (jason m), Thursday, 15 January 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

also, i want more kompaktPOP like right now.

― jason m (jason m), Thursday, 15 January 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

dj koze miz is very impressive so far - really enjoying the almost deep house/metro area bits in the middle, esp. this fabrice lig track, which I'd not heard before. And it got there from Langley Schools without any neck-snapping.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 24 January 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

where did you get it?

― hector (hector), Sunday, 25 January 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it's decent--more like Smallville than anything, very cozy and handmade.

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 25 January 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

certainly like Smallville - esp. the first four or so tracks: Its very gentle and nuanced, blends more 'organic' and electronic sounds. But so much arpeggiated guitar -- it's almost like a notwist record w/o the vocals.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 25 January 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

*It's*

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Sunday, 25 January 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

it's almost like a notwist record w/o the vocals.

Hey, I like that description! I heard it yesterday and enjoyed it very much, the Smallville comparison is quite apt.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's like Smallville then I'm happy.

I must say, the last 3 tracks on Smallville KILL ME, constantly. Absolutely brilliant.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 25 January 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

still have never come across smallville in any local record stores! WHY

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think i like the dj koze much on the first couple listens.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 January 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's alright but there are too many tracks on it that I'm already familiar with. I dunno that somehow spoils the fun. Still that Jackmate track is ace.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The Koze mix is really curious - it feels like he couldn't decide between a choice of four intro tracks, and so he just strung'em all together. As a result, it takes like 15 minutes for the mix to get cooking. Using the Langely Schools project feels a bit like obvious obscurantism (that's not even particularly obscure), more of a cred move than a bonafide surprise. But once it gets going, I like it quite a bit. He leans toward clicky tracks that aren't as sparse as clicks+cuts stuff, and he gestures towards pop without indulging it the way Mayer does. I see this being something that grows on me, but time will tell.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i like it.
its gets docked points for the abovementioned slllooooowww beginning (i'd be happier if it started at the jan jenelik) but gains credit for managing to make that frigid guitar funk villalobos track work - most boring album track after easy lee - even if i'd've prefered at least 2 minutes less of it.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It's my least-favorite Kompakt mix, which is saying not a lot.

The Pass Into Silence disc is something of a dud.

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

beatless ambient noodling alert!

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a little too Rugrats.

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

doncha like rugrats?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Pass Into Silence might well be the worst Kompakt release evah. Meaning it's actually bad instead of just sorta boring, the way subpar Kompakt usually is

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the first track with the vocal samples is pretty.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

not that i'd care if i never heard it again

― mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

exactly!

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The 4AD-via-Tooth & Nail (see first record by this one band... what were they called? Morgana's Dragon or something?) graphic design doesn't help. A couple tracks are good; it's not through-and-through poor.

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haven't seen gd on this yet, just got a paper promo.

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone tell me more about Superpitcher? I'm impressed and intrigued.

― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Go download a Sami Koivikko mix people! I reckon Eucalyptus is the best microhouse mix I've heard in the last twelve months aside from Mayer's Fabric one.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

the Koivikko album is really good, so I'll look for that. thanks Tim! (and check yr email)

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is the link for that by the way:

http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~sakoivik/mixtapes.html

a few of his mixes.

Thanks for the tip about this guy.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, a fine thing! *downloads 'Eucalyptus' as I type*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"...I reckon Eucalyptus is the best microhouse mix I've heard in the last twelve months aside from Mayer's Fabric one."

But Tim!

No affection for Daniel Bell's The Button-Down Mind Strikes Back!? Maybe not the "best" of the last twelve months, but in the Top 3, no? However conceding the fact that I have not yet heard Herra Koivikko's mix...

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I DL'ed Total3 at the weekend with much anticipation after reading all of the above. I'm afraid to say I was incredibly disappointed. It all sounded like generic background dance music that I would put on if the group of friends who don't like music came round for dinner. Sorry if this offends anyone and you're emore than welcome to try to explain what the big deal is, but I just don't get it.

― hmmm, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm: Hmmm.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"...I just don't get it..."

Perhaps because you downloaded it "at the weekend" and today's Wednesday? I won't suggest there's a "big deal" to get, but it may take more than five days for Total 3 to find its way into your heart.

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

How is the Langley Schools record used in the above mix? Which song & how is it mixed (w/ a 4/4 underneath? etc.) Details, plz, tx.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's "The Long and Winding Road." It's just there; it is as it was.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Nader My problem is that there's nothing I heard that would make me want to spend more time trying to make room for it in my heart. The reason I'm curious is I'm seeing all the chain reaction comparison at the top of the thread, the smith 'n' hack track on the koze CD and a bunch of other references to stuff I either love or like. These just don't fit with what I heard on Total3. Maybe I started in the wrong place?

― hmmm, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Starting in the wrong place is certianly possible. I don't know if I'd be as big a Kompakt advocate if it weren't for Triple R's Friends mix/compilation working as my formal introduction.

Honestly, Total 3 didn't knock me out either, whereas I continually return to Friends - with which I hear some similarities in Sami Koivikko "Eucalyptus" mix (see: up thread), albeit eighteen minutes in...

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, Friends is now on my big list of stuff to check out. Will get back to you with a verdict.

― hmmm, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

we wait with baited breath.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And while I bait mine, I would like to reiterate my belief that five days of listening still strikes me as an inadequate amount of time to "get" something. You know, for the record, as it were.

If there's one thing I don't miss about my time as one "professionally" reviewing music was the often (i.e. too frequently) short amount of time that passed between acquisition and a review's deadline.

Maybe I take musik too personally, but reviewing something in days that took an artist took weeks/months/years to create is a proportion I had, and have, a difficult time rectifying.

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

too much toke: um, only one "took" in that last bit

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Go download a Sami Koivikko mix people!

As noted I took Tim's advice and downloaded both Eucalyptus and 100 Minutes and was most happy with that as a listening soundtrack last night. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

actually total 3 was my first Kompakt purchase and I was underwhelmed by it. It has some great tracks but as a whole it is just a comp of previously released 12"s and doesn't have the cohesion that other Kompakt releases have. I will agree with nader that Triple R and Smallville converted me to their ethos.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

weird,total 3 is what got me into kompakt and by far my favourite microhouse album...

― robin (robin), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

total 3 took me like 6 months to get i think, it all sounded too wimpy to start with. then i got total 4 and that just clicked.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

next up from the krew:

Trapez cd 02 triple r selection 2 cd
After the mix cd friends on kompakt, triple r aka riley reinhold delivers a fine selection of not yet released material on cd, combining tracks from trapez as well as
From the sublabel trapez ltd.

The mix is features a broad spectrum of different styles on trapez, ranging from the sarahgoldfarbs detroit theo parrish like "euben", over the joyous trapez ltd 3 to the frenzy of oliver hackes "vampir von düsseldorf". Riley reinhold includes his track "count" from the airfix ep on trapez, being recognized lately by lots of djs from the uk and dj magazine. The cd finishes off with the stunning steve bug remix of jeff samuels "knob", a big club hit of the year 2003. The mix is in generell tougher and more uptempo than riley reinholds mix on kompakt, showing more of a dj and club perspective without loosing the smooth touch.

― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

where did you get that info?

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Among David's other talents are distribution and promo work for such things, so his info is on the level.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

not to get off topic w/ this thread but for someone who hasn't really done any work in three years mr oizo sure gets his props ... maybe it's the ark connection?

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 29 January 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"No affection for Daniel Bell's The Button-Down Mind Strikes Back!? Maybe not the "best" of the last twelve months, but in the Top 3, no? However conceding the fact that I have not yet heard Herra Koivikko's mix..."

It's always been too expensive for me to fork out for. I'm sure it's great though as the first Button-Down mix is a favourite of mine.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 29 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone ever checked the friday night club thing that Kompakt do in Koln? i'm planning a european tour and wondering if it's worth juggling my itinerary to make the pilgrimage.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 29 January 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I have and yes it is worth it. It's amazing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 29 January 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Would have thought that the triple R will combine tracks from Traum and subsid Trapez. Just probably being a pedant, but...

― ___ (___), Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Total3 progress report: Made a lot more sense on my headphones waling in to work this morning. Tracks 3,4 & 5 in particular. I may have been a bit rash in pre-judging this. We shall see.

― hmm, Thursday, 29 January 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

try tracks 7 and 11,at loud volume

― robin (robin), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

rex the dog is FUN! who is it?

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

RFI: I understand Total 5 was some kind of let down, but if I'm bored by it does it still make sense to check out the other ones?

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and i was kind coerced into leaving the trapez mix cd behind the counter for later. shall i look back or just keep on walking?

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

the button down mind strikes back is one of the best mixes i've heard in years

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

which, the first or second?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i have been relistening (obsessively) to herbert's let's all make mistakes mix...and it still sounds amazing.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, so 429 posts later, what's the consensus on which is the best Total comp? 3? 4? I haven't really heard much in the way of 1 or 2, while I've heard some people express less than glowing opinions on 5.

As for me, I think 4's pretty fabbo. I should add that I pretty much discovered this stuff a couple of months ago and am now fairly addicted.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

jess, strikes back = the second. it's fab. hammered it all last year and that herbert mix is luvverly, too. i've been listening to a lot of mixes lately, more than usual. total 4 is probably my fave.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i have boxer shorts in exactly the colour scheme and polka-dot design as total 4. i may have mentioned this before, but it's still a very good thing as far as i'm concerned and makes me happy. have to confess, tho, that i do prefer the pink and blue of total 4 so if anyone sees any, let me know

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah the second bell mix is my fave too. real night drive thru babylon business, that. great "coming home from the bar" (or wherever) soundtrack.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

nothing underwear-related about it, either! that said, i do quite like the 1st one, too, but the 2nd is probably one of the most perfect mixes i've ever heard, without any exaggeration. went to check bell out live last year in london. he was as good as on cd, perhaps better

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i have boxer shorts in exactly the colour scheme and polka-dot design as total 4.

Well, I guess that settles this, then. ;-)

Seriously, what is it about Kompakt that gets everybody so obsessed? I'd, like, tuned out of IDM for a long time, and then this stuff came along and BOOM — I need it all...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

it's good

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, that. Yes. So it is.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 February 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Good always helps, quite.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 February 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, though: there's something more to it. How else to explain how Kompakt (and microhouse in general) fosters such deep obsession, esp. among skinny white guys. A friend of mine, who's largely unfamiliar with Kompakt, pointed out that even in his limited exposure to it that it all sounds very...precise. He's right, I think. In that sense, as cliche as the comparison might seem, there's a clear debt to Kraftwerk, which has a similar effect upon the skinny white guys.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 February 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

hey i'm white, but i'm far from skinny (much to my chagrin).

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

dude there's no debt to kraftwerk

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

oh come on

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

listen to "hush, hush baby" and tell me it's not indebted to kwerk even above and beyond the debt all electro-pop owes to kwerk

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

or mayer's cover of "love is stronger than pride" for that matter

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

for the record i am a fat bastard. the kraftwerk idea may well be true but i think it's very limited. pop/eurodance/schlager and all manner of other stuff so it's definitely not just austere teutonic music for geeky idm nerds. it's an incredibly varied label with in its own parameters and schaffel etc owes more to the glitter band and t rex than kraftwerk. if anything this label probably owes as much to new order, depeche mode and the pet shop boys

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

vahid - they're german - it's electronic, of course there's a fucking debt to kraftwerk!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

kompakt sound = thinly veiled ripoff of the silver apples

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that was meant to say "pop/eurodance/schlager are all big influences, so..."

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

...that it all sounds very...precise.

Quite a bit of Kompakt's output is a bit, eh, grubby and gunky though. (Grime and grunge already taken.)

Hush Hush Baby's vocals sound almost exactly like something off Electric Cafe.

x-post with almost everyone

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

dave i agree entirely with your first post there.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(silver apples comment in jest obviously)

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you vahid as it would have rendered about 5 years of my best work meaningless.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: ALTHOUGH bergheim 34 did a cover of "oscillations"!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(big x-post, too lazy to fully chk)

At the end of the day you could pretty much drag back everything on Kompakt to Kraftwerk.

I don't think that's what draws people to Kompakt per se. I am surprised that there always seems to be the huge draw to Kompakt, whilst Trapez and Traum seem to get relatively overlooked.

I think that the Kompakt Speicher series is popular as it has been constantly OTM. I think it is more, for the rest, it has reached the position that you would listen to all kompakt releases to see if they suit. Which is mainly, reliability.

― ___ (___), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think that's what draws people to Kompakt per se. I am surprised that there always seems to be the huge draw to Kompakt, whilst Trapez and Traum seem to get relatively overlooked.

kompakt's pop sensibility, the fact that they are VERY cool guys, the diversity but cohesiveness of identity, the design are all factors here. i don't find it at all surprising.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 13 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"...that it all sounds very...precise."

i'd agree for the most part but i'm noticing the newer kompakt releases moving away from that. read: rex the dog - prototype and dj koze - gekloppel A1.

― jason m (jason m), Friday, 13 February 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone heard the new ferenc yet?

― jason m (jason m), Friday, 13 February 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but that Rex The Dog track is pretty special.

(also: skinny (check), Kraftwerk (check), fave Total: 2 (check)

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 13 February 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Continuing on the Kraftwerk theme, there's also the sweet melodies factor (sweet as in "touching," that is) that's prevalent in a fair amount of IDM. Of course, not all of Kompakt's stuff qualifies as "melodic" (then again, neither did all of Kraftwerk's). But the synthesis of precision and disarmingly classicist melody does seem to be a quintessentially German creation...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"it has reached the position that you would listen to all kompakt releases to see if they suit. Which is mainly, reliability."

Its nice to be able to trust a label again, which for the most part I do with Kompakt. For ages all the labels that I originally used to purchase with no qualms about not hearing it first just turned on me. Warp is the only one that springs immediatly to mind.

― hector (hector), Friday, 13 February 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

there's to much in this thread for me
to really take it all in happening upon it after what
seems to be the 45th post.
Anyway is it me or is idm kinda stagnant
right now while tech-house like Kompakt, ~Scape,
and Ghostly seems to be the new intelligent electronic thing?

There's a vitality to Kompakt's sound. They
manage, along with Jan Jelineck, to take a similar
sample bass as deep house (i.e. soul, spiritual jazz, funk etc.)
and break it down to the essential grooves that
make the monotonous thump of house into
more easily palatable clicks.
Anyway, tech-house is apparently losing it's
hold in Europe I'm told (at least according to Hawtin/ Magda).
BTW ARK rules...

-
A

― andrew jones (andrew jones), Saturday, 14 February 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

man, that rex the dog sucks - posh euro trance. my guess - it's ewan pearson.

'tech-house losing it's hold' - thank cripes for that - it's the dullest music ever invented.

and yup, ark does indeed rule.

― stirmonster, Saturday, 14 February 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ark?

― hector (hector), Saturday, 14 February 2004 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

dude stirmonster i will c u tonight at crash!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 14 February 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

haha if it's ewan pearson then i cannot WAIT to hear it

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 14 February 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

(ws tht you playing 'galang' last night, stirmonster?)

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

More Ewan! He should so release a box set already!

Ha "precise" is such a cliche for this stuff but I think it's increasingly off-base. Only the messy stuff sounds good these days!!! Read Phil Sherburne's "Microhouse fattens up" thingy.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 15 February 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

tracer hand - dude! you vanished right after our conversation was (rudely) interrupted. anyhow, i thought the night kind of sucked and obviously my idea of gay music bears no relation whatsoever to reality! well, at least in 2004. maybe see you next time we're down or when you're up?

and cozen, i wasn't playing galang last night (or friday night if yr referring to glasgow) although i do, i do? also mia have been signed in a mega bucks major deal allegedly.

oh, and apparently 'rex the dog' isn't ewan pearson. so which famous london producer could it be?????

― stirmonster, Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Middleton (yuck)

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I like some of his stuff but lately, awful.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 15 February 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the most fickle board ever.

― twelve, Sunday, 15 February 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got Total 2 boxers, although not necessarily dot-for-dot, and last time I checked, the CD didn't have a blue waistband that says "Calvin Klein".

I'd rank them 3, 2, 1, 4, 5. I might need to listen to 4 again. I remember it being really weak through about track 6, then getting better, but I might be more open to some of the vocals now.

Glad to see the Button Down love. I first heard about it on one of the "Recent Mixes" threads here.

However, I'm still not hearing the greatness of Michael Mayer's Fabric mix. It starts out great, but begins losing me about 20 minutes in. Too many parts go on too long, especially "Easy Lee", which for me was already over-exposed.

― Curt (cgould), Sunday, 15 February 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Every time I listen to 2, 3 or 4 I think "wait, no, this is my favourite."

I'm actually at the point with that Koivikko "Eucalyptus" mix where I can't decide if I love it or Mayer's Fabric mix more.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 16 February 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Tramapoline! Trampopoline! Superpitcher!

Here Comes Love (all previously unreleased):

People
The Long Way
Sad Boys (references P. Diddy!)
Träume (a cover of a cabaret song perhaps?)
Love Me Forever (lyrics from the old Studio One track)
Fever (cover)
Lovers Rock
Happiness
Even Angels (14 1/2 minutes long!)

First run through - it's sooo good. Very swoony and romantic, sorta opulent in a couple of places but toes that line a bit more sensibly than, say, The Present Lover. (it's reminiscent of The Last Exit in that sense, in a way) For the most part though it's pretty delicate and shows a lot of restraint. Has elements of most of what Superpitcher has done to date (some schaffel, some very melancholy "tomorrow"-like stuff), and then the lover's rock and cabaret touches are (to my ears) new to him - or at least more pronounced here than in the past. Vocals on every track.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

this is so good!!

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Just after the one listen, it all sounds so familiar already - but in a really good way. I'm pretty pleased that for the most part this doesn't stray too far from what he's already done - it's seems odd this is only his debut LP - but I could see that being a slight complaint to some ppl (esp. because the new(ish) sonic elements are on the covers).

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

HOW DID YOU GET THIS

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

HOW DO I GET THIS

― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(it came in the mail)

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

what is this "mail" trickery you speak of

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

the use of the word opulent in scott's first post has just made my day...

― tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I'm about to burst with excitement.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha the thing is, Tim's serious!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if they'll hawk this Superpitcher ware at the upcoming US gigs. Maybe if I ask real nice?

― nader (nader), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

kompakt has the album cover on the front-page, but no listings on either the label sub-site or the mail order updates.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

This Superpitcher album is on my want list. I have a serious jones for that "Mushroom" track at the moment.

― Michael B, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's out on the 29th March in the UK. Taking pre-orders now. I have already negotiated first call on any early arrivals where I am.

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone heard the new Ferenc 12"?

(Last Kompakt tour they didn't sell stuff, nader.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 February 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Superpitcher's on Slsk...

― mmm, Saturday, 28 February 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Not Kompakt proper, but it's Kompakt distro so this thread will have to suffice. Anyone heard anything on Firm Records? Seems to be Schaeben and Voss's new label. I've got #4, "Tombo." One track is Schaeben solo, one w/ Schaeben & Geiger feat. Schad Privat, and then two with Schaeben & Voss with André Kraml and Privat. No, I have no idea who these people are, other than S&V. Anyway, the four cuts range from spongy, Festplatten-style house to more understated, Italic-style stuff with big , moody guitar samples. "One Night at the Disco" would be right at home on Friends or Fabric13. Oh yeah, and there's some sort of mutant disco, and another track has castanets. Not your typical Kompakt release, in other words.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 28 February 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I hunted Tombo down almost immediately after hearing Mayer's Fabric mix -- just to get "Really Real." Wasn't surprised to like the other tracks as well. (I hope to hear a lot more Privat in the near future.) Apparently there's a new Firm release that just came out?

― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 28 February 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, was that ON the Fabric mix? Well, color me a million shades of "duh."

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 28 February 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Not finding the Superpitcher
on slsk at the moment, however...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 28 February 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, was that ON the Fabric mix? Well, color me a million shades of "duh."

One of my favorite moments is when that track comes in. "A friend of mine is addicted to accident black spots." And then a cork pops and it kicks into gear. Last time I checked the Neuromantic chart, it was holding the top spot for the 13th consecutive week.

― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 28 February 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

on the first couple of listen's the superpitcher album's great. esp the angels at the end. mmm.

― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 29 February 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I just say how horribly depressed I am, btw, that I had a ticket to the forthcoming NYC Kompakt/Rephlex gig, but it turns out I have a wedding in DC that i have to be at the same day? I really do want to cry...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 29 February 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

what i've heard of the superpitcher album is a lil' disappointing.. moody slow-burners that for the most part don't quite pick up or flip-flop or even meander in any particularly interesting ways (nor do i get that sense of 'endless endless' house existentialism). 'sad boys' is its own neptunes remix, for what its worth. still, early days + i havent even heard the whole thing so i'll be shutting up now.

― m., Sunday, 29 February 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, even with scott's description up there, most of the spitcher album is very...unexpected. what i liked so much about his stuff was always when the woozy slow-to-mid tempo melodies/textures were sort of doing their best at dragging the beat down, which just kept on chug-chug-chugging remorsely, implacably against the torpor (cf. "heroin", "tomorrow"), or - alternately - the kind of bleary, fuzzy bounce stuff ("baby's on fire", "mushroom", the quarks remix). a lot of this just seems to be simmering in it's own juices to no great effect. sometimes i think kompakt has a tendency to think that a "pop song" means stripping the beat away (or at least de-emphasizing it), adding a vocal, and repeating 10 or 12 bars a few times. "the long way" is easily up there with his best stuff though.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 29 February 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, that cover of 'Fever' does suck. Or maybe it doesn't and it just feels like a chore to listen to these eternal evergreens. I mean what next, Reinhard Voigt's version of 'Yesterday'?

'Lovers Rock', 'Happiness' and 'The Long Way' seem to be the bizznizz though.

― Omar (Omar), Sunday, 29 February 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

>>I mean what next, Reinhard Voigt's version of 'Yesterday'?

Ha, I'm holding out for Michael Mayer's shuffletech cover of the "Airwolf" theme. Perhaps he could mash it up with the Stargazer track from "Immer".

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 March 2004 06:14 (twenty-one years ago)

after two tracks i'm digging this.

― twelve, Monday, 1 March 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we lock this thread until I get my hands on the Superpitcher album?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 1 March 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry Tim.

If alternate mixes of some of his older stuff (Irre, Fieber) took the place of that poor middle patch (Love Me Forever, Fever), the album would be perfect.

― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 1 March 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Was thinking the same thing of course. Wouldn't mind having something like More Heroin on cd.

― Omar (Omar), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy why don't you like "More Heroin" much btw? I've always thought it pretty much the perfect distillation of his methadone drone style (as opposed to his airy pop style or shuffletech style or etc.).

Any love for his mix of Tocotronic's "Hi Freaks"? It seems like it's going to be surprisingly straightforward but then he brings in those little string riffs towards the end and I want to marry him.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

they're really on a downward slide. the superpitcher album's not really very compelling at all.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked that kompakt mix of tocotronic's 'jackpot' tht was on gabba.cc a while back. but I'm a sucker fr german vocals.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

On "Hi Freaks" there's just this guy saying "Hi Freaks!" over and over again in lots of different states of depression.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

: ( I hope he's ok.

― spizzozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

my god I LOVE that bit in the tocotronic song a minute 20 secs in when the skippy hi-hat and the wobbly synth come in. they repeat the same trick just before the 5 minute mark but it's not as effective. I never noticed how much this song changes over its 6 mins.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

they're really on a downward slide. the superpitcher album's not really very compelling at all.

Matos, I'm no expert on microhouse/Kompakt, but if you could clarify/elaborate it'd be cool, cuz I'm enjoying this album. Can you tell me why I shouldn't be? ;)

ScottPL, where do you stand on this as well?

― djdee2005, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

To be fair, has *any* single artist album Kompakt has released lived up to the quality of their best mixes, compilations and one off tracks? The closest I can think of are Dettinger's (which neglect actual dancefloor cuts) and Kaito's (for whom I bet expectations were lower than for Superpitcher, Closer Musik etc.)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

But most of their LPs are pretty solid (a few exceptional ones--Kaito, Fehlmann--and probably a few bleh ones too). I'm not shocked that the new Superpitcher album would be uneven, but I would be kind of shocked to hear that it wasn't really good at all.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

about half of it is good--the first half, shockah! the rest of it is pretty friggin' tedious and erases the good feeling the first half leaves. played it twice and will hear it some more but even the pretty good stuff doesn't hit me right there the way great Kompakt does. but for now I'll just say it's pretty mediocre leaning toward pretty good. which I really don't have a lot of time for and neither should anyone who isn't dedicated 100% to the sound/aesthetic/label.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the last three songs are amazing!

― djdee2005, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Superpitcher's great: "The Long Way" might be my favorite track of his , and the middle patch has become less troublesome as I've been coming to terms with its unexcitingness. Rich distillation of his pop's gimlet eye and his woozy thousand-yard stare. Sounds great loud.

― Andy, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy B otm.

I do like it quite a bit, Tim (note the tracklist of my Superpitcher comp up thread). I definitely prefer the original mix, though.

Something tells me that Here Comes Love will be a gateway album for a good number of indie rockers who need to be eased a little into the clubbier stuff.

― Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, i think i quite like it now.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i was gonna say.

i'm with scottpl on this one, i think it's gorgeous. the middle section flags a bit but i appreciate the sentiment of the record and the way it hammers on that gushy roxy music vibe through til the end.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i could also see "traume" becoming a summertime early-morning centerpiece for the next little while.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

still really ambivalent abt "fever" though.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I burned a copy without Traume and Fever...works much better, also because it approaches old-school vinyl album length this way. I'm with Mark on the Roxy vibe.

― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the "fever" cover is still nearly impossible for me to get to. it kinda loses me around 5-7. it's flawed, and a lot like closer musik's after love (which, some crazy days, might be my fave kompakt single artist lp.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the last three songs are amazing!

including the eight-minute loop that closes the last track?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah the one-two of "love me forever" (by FAR the album's weakest track) and "fever" makes for a bit of a sinkhole, but the final third is quite strong, especially that wonderful drone-out in "even angels", which lasts so long that i end up wondering if there's actually another kind of record he wants to be making..

(uh oh xpost)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

the eight minute loop is the best bit!

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

zzzzzzzzz

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

that's kind of what it sounds like!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

now make a rrrn-rrrn-rrrn sound

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a reason for that!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the fact that it comes at the end of the album keeps it from being zzzzzzzzzz....or rather, it keeps it from being obnoxiously zzzzzzzzzzzz

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 3 March 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

No one's mentioned the awesomeness of the P Diddy allusion in "sad boys"

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 3 March 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

First impression of the new 'pitcher is that it's pretty decent. Anyone else think his voice sounds like Marc Bolan's in places?

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I was gonna say Bobby Gillespie. But that's not very nice, and I actually like the record quite a bit...

― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i think spitcher's intentionally making his voice sound like marc bolan's in places! and a bit of bryan ferry too

i am always psyched for soft-sexy MALE voices in dance music, in any case. was surprised by how vocals-heavy this album is, but i think it works. (the cover of 'fever' is troublesome though)

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

mark p otm: I've cut "love me forever" and 'fever" from my iPod and now it's a much better record. I quite like the slow burners - fwiw, I don't find it odd that something that is still primarily a dance label would approach pop with this sort of subtlety and patience.

Next to Kaito, it's probably my favorite Kompakt artist album.

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ha yeah the first thing i did when i put it on my ipod was to cut tracks 5 and 6!

i think 'lovers rock' would have been a lot better without any vocals (with vocals it just sounds kind of funny -- like imagine if 'mushroom' had him repeating 'mushrooms rock' over and over)

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Upon first listening, "Lovers Rock" sounded kind of dumb.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

'happiness' is great great great though! it's got that lost-on-the-dancefloor feeling of prime kylie

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like the idea of some sort of dialogue with Isaacs/Holt/Delroy Wilson sweet-vocaled Jamaican music/lover's rock. It fits the mood and tone of the record, it just doesn't work. (actually, a rocksteady beat would probably work a bit more but there are already sort of elements of that in schaffel, I guess.)

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm at the point where i'm starting to pick up things by the individual artists and i'm not hearing a whole lot of enthusiasm here for anybody but kaito. does anybody know anything about the justus koehncke album?

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it's great! the first track is a disco cut-up of "spasticus autisticus"!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

it's very "pop", but in a rather silly, beer-y kind of way. he even "covers" "so weit wie noch nie".

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely not my favorite but that rip of the Imagination piano in "Illusion" is in-a-good-way hilarious.

― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i think spitcher's intentionally making his voice sound like marc bolan's in places! and a bit of bryan ferry too

Now I definitely need to hear this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i heard something about the beatles in the press release / sales blurb for the album, but nothing about ian dury or imagination. those tracks sound great though.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

my favorite mix is probably friends, but i haven't got total 3 - is it mixed, or tracks?

Also: I'd be really surprised if any of the people who love Kompakt didn't also fucking love French House. I wouldn't have thought that there was a choice to be made here

for some people (like me) the thing is that french house was a mid-90s thing that became tired quickly, and now, since i'm older, aren't into the chemical rushes and obvious funk rip offs, i want listening dance music (erm, ok, IDM).
i listened to the crydamore mixes and thought they were dead boring. and not very well mixed.

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I see the connection to idm but I think Kompakt does not really fall into that catagory. I see it more as a synthesis of house, techno, and some of the production values of idm.

Although that may just be academic

― hector (hector), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I the only one who gets inordinately excited each time the new releases mural on the Kompakt website is updated?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 12 March 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"i think spitcher's intentionally making his voice sound like marc bolan's in places"

interesting ... the modernist has previously named a track after t-rex's drummer

― dh, Friday, 12 March 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

>>Am I the only one who gets inordinately excited each time the new releases mural on the Kompakt website is updated? <<

No, I am the same way! :)

Anyone hear the new KompaktPop single by Dorau & Kohncke? The b-side could be Kompakt's version of a country(!) song.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit! how great is 'timecode'?!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What's "Timecode"?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah there is no reference on the website. (Although there is going to be a new Kaito single!!! Or is there already?)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/243473

(sorry for being so oblique - i wrongly thought the vinyl was called 'timecode' too)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

new kaito! NICE.

anyone know anything about klimek's 'milk & honey' lp?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, the klimek thing seems to be all over slsk. no sign of kaito yet tho.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh it's the new Kohncke thing!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, the klimek thing seems to be all over slsk.

really?! i just see the track of that name from pop ambient 2003.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I love the new Kohncke, I can't decide if I prefer Timecode (wiggly disco) or The Answer Is Yes (bizarre almost Beatles style electronic rock song)

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

toby i have the full milk & honey if you want to grab it from me.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait til you see the Timecode video...
Oh, and Kompakt 100 -- out July -- is effing ridiculous. I've heard very little but the concept is amazing: Kompakt's core artists select their favorite tracks from the label's back catalogue and remix them. It's a 4xLP or 2xCD affair. Mayer was telling me what was interesting was that so many artists had picked rather obscure or forgotten tracks, B-sides and whatnot. I'm dying to hear the whole thing. Don't have a tracklist on me, but I do seem to recall seeing that Superpitcher had remixed Closer Musik's "One Two Three No Gravity." Don't hold me to that, though.

I'm just back from a week in Cologne, bearing about 70 records, mostly new, some old (polished off my Freiland collection, picked up some old NTA releases, etc.) and hoo-wee, but do I feel good about the state of techno. MIA is about to KILL it on Sub Static, but that's another thread.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

God that does sound ace, nice big indulgence of remixes!

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

cheers mark. what's your username (this email address if you don't want to post it publically)?

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i just sent you a system message actually!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

and christ, kompakt100 sounds amazing. thanks for the update philip.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks mark, i didn't know you knew my username. i'm nowhere near my computer at the moment but i will be in a few hours...

and yeah, kompakt100 sounds fantastic.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

can you think of any labels that get better after their 100th release compilations? I'm sure Kompakt can pull it off

― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm loving the newest Pop Ambient (no surprise there, though!).

I have a favor to ask: would any of you be willing to burn me Dettinger's Intershop? I'd be more than happy to do a CDR trade, maybe a few Kompakts for a few Kompakts... I've got tons of other stuff for trade possibilities, too. 'Preciate it.

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

time for some love of the recent speicher releases - 14, 15, 16 are all excellent! surely they have enough material from which to compile a speicher 2 CD comp now eh?

― jason m (jason m), Thursday, 29 April 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Speicher 2, mixed by Mayer, is coming. Not sure how soon, but this year sometime, I believe. (Man, for once I feel like a font of knowledge! I oughtta stalk label headquarters more often...)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

listening to this klimek now. as you might guess from his absence on any total or speicher comps, it's very soundscapey, ambient stuff. lotsa dsped acoustic guitar bits and slowly unfurling synth pads. i like it fine, but on first blush, aside from a few new sounds, it's not really that different from what guys like pan american, howard hello, arovane and half of the morr roster have been doing for years now.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pop Ambient stuff seems um sort of stagnant to me actually. None of these guys seem to be doing anything either Gas or even Dettinger weren't 5/6 years ago.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, agreed, but in spite of it almost always being completely derivative, i can still find a lot of that stuff (esp. the andrew thomas lp) totally useful. not really sure if the klimek falls into that category.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh don't get me wrong I don't dislike it (there are still good tracks on last years comp). It just feels terribly static, esp. compared to the rest of the label.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i have just now decided that kompakt need to invent glambient.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

whaddaya think schaffel is?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

my glambient has no beats!

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not going to happen I don't think, but I would like the Pop Ambient series to go in the direction of, say Markus Guentner's beatless remix of his cover of "Such A Shame" - emphasising the shivery popness to the point where it ends up on the pop side of Triola, edging towards quieter Saint Etienne etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Sez International DJ:

"‘Kompakt 100’, a four-LP or two-CD Kompakt records remix album, will be hitting the shelves on June 28. It showcases the cream of the hard-nosed, minimal techno stable’s DJs and producers and lets them loose on fellow labelmates’ material.

Kompakt started out as a record store in Cologne almost ten years ago. Since then it’s helped define the city’s house and techno sound through its record labels and club nights. However, it looks like 2004 could turn into the label’s biggest year yet.

So, If the idea of DJ KOZE re-jigging the likes of Reinhard Voigt makes you want to don a party hat and eat some jelly and ice cream in honour of the boys at Kompakt’s 100th release, then seek it out, ja?"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ja.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 29 April 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

Now is the time on Sprockets when we cream pants

TRACKLISTING ’KOMPAKT 100’ – CD 34

THE ORB - ULF LOHMANN/BECAUSE BEFORE
THOMAS/MAYER - ULF LOHMANN/BECAUSE
DJ KOZE - REINHARD VOIGT/ZU DICHT DRAN
SASCHA FUNKE - THOMAS FEHLMANN/RADELN
THE MODERNIST - JUSTUS KÖHNCKE/WEICHE ZÄUNE
JOACHIM SPIETH - M.MAYER/17&4
KAITO - SUPERPITCHER/TOMORROW
WASSERMANN - REINHARD VOIGT/ROBSON PONTE
MARKUS GUENTNER - KAITO/RESPECT TO THE DISTANCE
DETTINGER - CLOSER MUSIK/ONE TWO THREE NO GRAVITY
MARKUS GUENTNER - M.MAYER/PENSUM
JUSTUS KÖHNCKE FEAT. MELOBOY - FREILAND/FREI/HOT LOVE
SCSI 9 - LAWRENCE/TEASER
JÜRGEN PAAPE - SCHAEBEN&VOSS/THE WORLD IS CRAZY
SCHAEBEN&VOSS - SCHAEBEN&VOSS/DICHT DRAN
JONAS BERING - DETTINGER/INTERSHOP
REINHARD VOIGT - CLOSER MUSIK/MEGAMIX
MATIAS AGUAYO/LEANDRO FRESCO - LEANDRO FRESCO/CERA UNO
SCSI 9 - SUPERPITCHER/TOMORROW
ULF LOHMANN - DETTINGER/INTERSHOP
HANNES TEICHMANN - MARKUS GUENTNER/IN MOLL

― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

nice

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

ooooh!

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

oh holy god

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean like...

DETTINGER - CLOSER MUSIK/ONE TWO THREE NO GRAVITY

...oh HOLY GOD

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Clarke, if you're still reading this, I can burn you Intershop. mail me.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

JUSTUS KÖHNCKE FEAT. MELOBOY - FREILAND/FREI/HOT LOVE

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I need a cold shower.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yowza. shame there's no spitcher reworking though. and only one mayer track! but yeah, sorry, yowza.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm really excited about all of them but these ones sound magical:

THOMAS/MAYER - ULF LOHMANN/BECAUSE
SCSI 9 - LAWRENCE/TEASER
JÜRGEN PAAPE - SCHAEBEN&VOSS/THE WORLD IS CRAZY

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

REINHARD VOIGT - CLOSER MUSIK/MEGAMIX

what is this?

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad to see the return of Jurgen Paape and Dettinger.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Me too!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

KAITO - SUPERPITCHER/TOMORROW
!!!

― etc, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah if that one isn't phenomenal then something's gone very wrong somewhere...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This looks phenomenal!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the release date, anyway?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Yikes. It's gonna be the shit, that's for sure.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my.

― djdee2005, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i honestly can't think of the last record label i've loved to make it to 100 releases and still be as good/getting better.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"what's the release date, anyway?"

It's gotta be soon. Release #99 just came out.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's actually how consistent Kompakt is that is so shocking to me. Plenty of labels release great stuff forever, but have crap releases mixed in or they slack for a bunch of years and then get great again. Kompakt only releases good stuff (with a few exceptions, I guess.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Pass Into Silence to thread!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

haha oh quiet, you

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

half the Superpitcher album to thread!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

half the DJ Koze mix to thread!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahaha I said a FEW exceptions. Also the other of half of the Superpitcher album mostly makes up for the wanky half.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

all of the last five singles have been tops! as was the last pop ambient thing.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

dunno the singles but I have never liked any Pop Ambients.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't like Gas either though, Matos.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't help it if I have ears, Alex.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

("You gotta use your imagination . . . ")

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

oh plz it's not like i sit there and LISTEN to gas (or the pop ambients)...though i do pretend that i am in some sort of zero g kubrick lounge with ergonomic chairs made of space aged plastics

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have to pretend.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this is why I need to visit SF more often, clearly

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(the furniture, not the bad ambient music)

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Our lounges have all the top-end dot.com boom leftovers. It was a new paradigm, maaaaan.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha SASCHA FUNKE - AERON FLEX

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf is Seattle's excuse, then? where the hell is MY iridescent plastic future?

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

all we get is wood! who needs sturdiness when you can have THE OPALESECNT NOW?!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill Gates is hoarding them shits!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

tell bill gates sr. on him

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Something tells me this is going to be the most "classic" Kompakt album (in the sense of core values not quality, though hopefully that too!) in quite some time - a lot of the combinations seem to balance up all the different potential Kompakt factors: pop vs ambience vs driving groove vs abrasion vs methadone wooziness etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

update: add the Klimek's Milk & Honey to the Kompakt-sucks list. not to mention that hideously overrated Kaito album.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I am doubting if you DO have ears, Matos (about the Kaito record, I've not heard Klimek.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

haha sorry I don't like inertia, dude

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

though I'm happy to concede that the real Kaito is better than the beatless version by fucking mile.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the beatless version too, but your last statement is OTM.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway enough from me. back to your regularly scheduled apologism

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

so do you like SAW II Matos? Just trying to test your ambient threashold.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

some, not a great deal.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it but it's never meant all that much to me. I tend to prefer indivindual tracks by Aphex rather than whole albums anyway.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

with a low ambient threashold your aversion to Pop Ambient makes complete sense.

Maybe you just need a life changing ambient experience like the Mayer show in New York. Although this would probably involve a lot more sitting down and possibly long pulls on some sort of pipe like device.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Matoooooooos you'vvvvvvvvvvve gotttttttttttttttttt toooooooo slooooooooow dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Matos, opinion on early (hyper-repetitive) Steve Reich, say?
For the record, I'm not a huge fan of much of the Kompakt Ambient material, but largely that's because it's not repetitive enough. I love Gas, or at least remember doing so - been a while since I put it on. But I'd much rather have two loops tumbling over and over than the rather directionless drift that seems to characterize much of the KomAmbt material.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Hector, did Mayer play the ambient stuff in NYC? In Miami he wasn't as balls-to-the-wall as I expected, but it was still all very decidedly techno; no beatless stuff at all, as far as I can remember.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

In Cologne he had a good 45 minute pop-ambient lead-in (haha he even played a Kaito track.) In SF it was shorter maybe 15 to 20 minutes.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

naw I was just referring to Matos I remember having a conversion type of experience at the New York Kompakt show. He had been rather blase about his enjoyment of the music until he saw Mayer spin and then had a conversion if I remember correctly.

He only did a short ambienty type thing in LA, really little more than introduction to the main set.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

That LA show still makes me smile. Small group of people really dancing their ass off.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not correct at all, Hector. Matos professed love for Kompakt long before seeing Mayer spin in NYC.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

You are right, I did my research and hearby retract all misleading statements.

LA show did still rock though.

― hector (hector), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

that Mayer NYC show was anything but ambient, Simon R to the contrary

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha that's not what Simon said at all.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

he said it was even. close enough.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Philip TOTALLY OTM about repetition, activity, and drones. Gas and Pop Ambient are way soft by me; if I wanna hear drones I'm gonna listen to Roland Kayn.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Simon just wishes microhouse was more like hardcore/jungle. I can sort of understand that.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought everyone in Seattle lived like Frasier.

― djdee2005, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i gotta stump for the Kaito ambient album - i haven't heard anybody overrate it and it would surely be better with beats, but for synth trainspotters like me, it's manna from heaven.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's Roland Kayn? I love me a drone, especially of the Andrew Chalk/Jonathan Coleclaugh variety...

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Roland Kayn is an old German dude who makes the most action-packed drones I've ever heard--the fuckers swarm, not just in the overwhelming-your-eardrums sense, but in that they seem to have hundreds of scurrying little microbes with each sound-band, wriggling all over the place like a microscope of a healthy vein, cells scurrying and multiplying and whatnot like crazy. The two I have are are Kybernetische Musik II and the four-CD Tektra.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ok london people whos yr fantasy kompakt-esque lineup at a club in the uk. who would you want to see play in yr wildest dreams. NB THIS IS FOR MARKETING PURPOSES BY ME THE CHEEKY BASTARD

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Jean-Philippe Verdin

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

he's on F Communications though i think

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

MARKETING=MARKET RESEARCH

checking that tracer - btw i live with the g man now - u still in upper hollowayland?

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

half the Superpitcher album to thread!

BLASPHEMY!

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

looking foreward to hearing that remix of teaser by lawrence,its one of my favourite kompakt tracks...

― robin (robin), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm in Bricks Town my friend, we should hang out once school's over!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

half the Superpitcher album to thread!

BLASPHEMY!

you're right. ALL of the Superpitcher album to thread.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

*puts on superpitcher album*

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

There have been some excellent Kompakt-y nights down here in Brighton put on by 'Kliks' over the last few months. They've had Tobias Thomas, MIA and Heib doing guest spots at Club Mango.

Tobias Thomas is coming down again on the 26th of June (I think) and playing at the newly opened 'Audio' (was The Escape).

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

chew, i have been going to these religiously, nice party atmosphere to the nite, always good to hear people cheering at trax. ivan smaaghe's at audio tonite, could be good.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I would quite like to go tonight, but I'm not sure if I c an afford it.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus I'm not too keen on The Concorde for club nights.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Roland Kayn

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, just re-read what you wrote and I was getting confused with the Soma night... Don't ask me why.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 21 May 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Just looking at the picture of Kompakt 100 on the website makes me excited. Oh, and how great does the idea of a Magnet/Wighnomy Bros Speicher 12" sound?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus according to the weekly news page Le Dust Sucker have a double LP out!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 May 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Kompakt 100 = ace ace ace so far

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, you have it? Nice. :-) Looks like it'll be good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

best track thus far (tho i could easily see me getting sick of it): justus kohnchke feat. meloboy - hot love

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could have a megahuge subway poster blow-up of the foldout that shows the sleeves for all of the releases. I would happily put it over the Tarkus mural in my game room.

― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the kaito cover.

http://www.kompakt-net.de/temp/df2e4ed4669309789df2b298786e68c2120040524210410.gif

― m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 24 May 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

just got my 100, putting it on right now . . .

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

furnish the details asap

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

1. The Orb - Ulf Lohmann/Because Before (4:52)

very lambent, very ambient, wind rising over trees. quite nice. then about three and a half minutes in the foghorns sound in the distance and a creeping and very submerged steppers beat semi-surface for about 30 seconds before receding beneath the wind-over-trees.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG I WANT THIS SO BAD

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

s.h., check yr email

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, I can't wait to hear this!

Andy - is the foldout you mention in the liner notes to Kompakt 100?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

And I guess this would be a good place to mention that Anders ilar has 2 DJ sets available to download at http://ai.pinesky.com/

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how this trend is spreading. Who needs to buy microhouse mixes any more?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If someone can host it, I'm happy to offer up a free download of my schaffel mix -- though in fairness to Sonar (where it's going in the "Sonar a la Carta" listening stations) I should probably wait until after the festival's over in mid-June...

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

so the kompakt 100 is out? can't seem to find it in the uk. maybe it'll be next week here.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Only on promo - not out officially til early July.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(Adam, thanks a lot! I'm emailing you now...)

The Pop Ambient series has nothing to do with drone music. It is strikingly beautiful, though -- and, granted, it can be directionless, but since when has this been a problem for instrumental, beatless electronic music?

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, "instrumental electronic music" -- it *is* late here, ya know... (doh)

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

And I like my hard-ass drones, too, don't get me wrong, but doesn't stuff like Pop Ambient have its place? Maybe I just make ambient stuff a larger part of my listening diet than some, so I need to make room for lots of different styles within.

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

spieth-17&4 what is this madness?

― aneurythm, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know when kompakt will visit the states again to throw down?

― aneurythm (aneurythm), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

where's the rest of the matos '100' run through?

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy - is the foldout you mention in the liner notes to Kompakt 100?

Indeed

― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i can host the schaffel mix, philip -- let me know if you still need space.

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

So I found the Kompakt 100 CD today at Amoeba (some weirdo sold a TOTALLY pristine advance copy). If any SFers want me to burn them a copy let me know. Highlights are the Spieth mix of Mayer's "17&4" and the Kohncke mix of Freiland's "Hot Love" on my initial listen.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice one Alex.
Trawling those used bins in SF can really turn up some treasures.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, soulseek that badboy!

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

This is easily the best advance thing I've ever bought anywhere. It doesn't even have a holepunch or anything. It's just the double CD with poster for sale TWO MONTHS before its release date.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it not on S*L*S*K yet? (I will if I get the chance this week, Mark, I've not been online at home much lately.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

no leak yet alex! you'd be a hero.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(and by 'hero' i mean 'pirate')

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha now you are making me feel like the terrible criminal I would be (Michael Mayer shook my hand and kissed my girlfriend on both cheeks and this is HOW I repay him!!)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet.

I hope amoeba decides to carry it down here.

― hector (hector), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

shit dude that's like finding the holy grail!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 May 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(two months before everyone else finds it, and not to mention the other people who got advance copies of the holy grail)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 May 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i second the slsking plan, unsurprisingly.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 27 May 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and has anyone talked about kompakt 99 (kaito)? on my one listen so far it sounded ok but nothing great.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 27 May 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

my god timecode is so addictive.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 May 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an amazing video for timecode, but I don't think it's online yet... Köhncke did the whole thing using digital stills shot from a camera-mounted tripod in his window. It's a time-lapse thing, and you see the sky shift, and the clouds cross, and the light pass across the apartment building opposite -- and then, when night falls, the skyscraper in the distance lights up, and the remainder of the video is the banks of lights on the skyscraper dancing, floor by floor, up and down the building in time to the music. At one point during a breakdown, lightning flashes across the sky. It's genius!

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 28 May 2004 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i gotta see this!! do you think they'll put it up at the kompakt site or maybe somewhere else?

that sounds amazing!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 May 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm really excited to see this video!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 May 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, same.

toby otm about the new kaito 12 btw. it's serviceable but pretty wallpapery by kompakt standards.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 28 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was going to be up but apparently nothing yet... I'll ask around.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 28 May 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

awesome, thanks!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 May 2004 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

tell us more about kompakt 100, ppl! there's some stuff here:

http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/archives/003051.html

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh this thread is taking me like 5 minutes to load. Someone start a new Kompakt thread.

― djdee2005, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Omar should do the honors.

The only thing missing from the Timecode video is a drunken Stellan Skarsgård. (Not that I've seen it to begin with.)

― Stacey Pollen (Andy K), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Omar should do the honors.

Thank you, good sir! I'll do it with some pain in my heart since this has been far the most popular thread I have started on ILM. :)

― Omar (Omar), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ppl should learn to display only the last 100 messages, duh.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Kompakt: Search und Destroy - Teil Zwei

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

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