To Live and Shave in L.A. - God and Country Rally! Tour

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Here is all the info we've collected relating to the venues To Live and Shave in L.A. will be visiting during their "God and Country Rally!" tour. The same-named compact disc is back from the manufacturing plant, and is now being sent to press and radio in the cities in and adjacent to the tour. A wider national roll-out will follow...

To Live and Shave in L.A. will comprise:

Rat Bastard (electronics, bass guitar)
Don Fleming (guitar, synthesizer, and vocals)
Mark Morgan (guitar, treatments, and vocals)
Tom Smith (lead vocals, electronics)
Andrew W.K. (drums and electronics)
Ben Wolcott (oscillators and treatments)

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September 10

Northsix

66 North 6th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11211

p: 718.599.5103
f: 718.599.5190

http://www.northsix.com/main.htm

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September 11

Tarantula Hill

2118 W. Pratt St.
Baltimore, MD 21223

(enter in alley)

p: 410.945.7825

http://www.heresee.com/

hello@heresee.com

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September 12

The Southgate House

24 East 3rd St.
Newport, KY 41071

(directly across from the Newport Aquarium)

p: 859.431.2201
f: 859.431.2904

http://www.southgatehouse.com/

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September 13

Empty Bottle

1035 N. Western Avenue
Chicago, IL 60622

p: 773.276.3600

http://www.emptybottle.com/

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September 14

Detroit Art Space

101 E. Baltimore
Detroit, MI 48202

p: 313.664.0445

two blocks South of Grand Boulevard
one block East of Woodward at John R
in Detroit's New Center Area

http://www.detroitartspace.10eastern.com/

theartspacedetroit@yahoo.com

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September 15

Bug Jar

219 Monroe Avenue
Rochester, NY 14607

p: 585.454.2966
f: 413.294.4557

http://www.bugjar.com/

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September 16

Flywheel Arts Collective

2 Holyoke Street
Easthampton, Massachusetts 01027

p: 413.527.9800

http://www.flywheelarts.com

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September 17

Providence, RI

TBA

(original venue deal fell through - we're working on it)

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September 18

Tonic

107 Norfolk Street
New York, NY 10002

p: 212.358.7501
f: 212.358.1237

http://www.tonicnyc.com

tonic@tonicnyc.com

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September 19

WFMU

Jersey City, NJ

Across the Hudson from the World Trade Center...

p: 201.521.1416 x224

Broadcast Date will be September 21

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Merch (many CDs, t-shirts, etc.) will be available.

Hope to see some of you there...

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

TLASILA PLEASE COME TO LA THANKS

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Email me if ya need help booking a Providence show; I still know some folks around who book things. I'll be at the NYC show at least.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

AWESOME!!!! Thanks for the info. Me and the crew will be at Tonic, definitely, and North Six maybe... AWK in TL&SILA? Too much!

― Ilya Kurioso, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY THERE WAS ALREADY A THREAD ABOUT THIS!

Also, you're playing with Pengo in Rochester, yes?

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Ilya Kurioso: My roommate is a senior at parson's; do you know a weird dude named Ron who's an illustration major?

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello Red Panda Sanskrit,

This is a separate, discrete thread, with specific information related to TLASILA's forthcoming tour. We've received many requests for such information, and we're aware that many avant/noise/Shave fans post messages here at ILX.

As to Rochester, yes, Pengo will be performing in support of TLASILA. I believe that Temple of Bon Matin will also be performing. I am especially looking forward to the Bug Jar show...

Regards,

GK, www.smackshire.com

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I know Mr. NFF himself, Carlos G., and I think I've met a few Rons. It's a large building, of course. Any definitive scars, moles, warts, birthmarks?

― Ilya Kurioso, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

IK: Long hair, sandals with socks, likes to go camping on the weekends.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

holy god! That show is going to be the best ever!!!

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ian, would it be alright to ask you to send me an email? Tom, AWK, and Rat have been trying to find a solution to the Providence problem. Do you have specifics? If so, visit the TSSR site (http://www.smackshire.com), grab our contact info, and shoot me an email. I'll forward it to Tom. The guys would definitely appreciate any assistance.

Regards,

GK/TSSR

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

hey GK, any truth to the rumor that Japanther will be opening the North Six show?

Ian, be prepared to throw down some serious green.

― D, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Dean,

TLASILA has no current plan to visit the West Coast; everyone's very busy. AWK's insanely booked up, Tom's in grad school and has a November tour of Scandinavia lined up with OHNE, Mark's going on an October tour of Europe with Sightings, Rat is consumed with his day job and his new (amazing) studio, and Don runs the Alan Lomax Archive in NYC... These ten days were all they could spare. If there is a demand, however, they wll definitely try to get out there...

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello D,

I know that Japanther are label mates of Tom's at Menlo Park Recordings, and that Menlo Park will be releasing the NEXT To live and Shave in L.A. album (featuring the current, 2004 line-up). Apart from these facts, I am clueless. I'd suggest checking out the Northsix web site...

Regards,

GK, www.smackshire.com

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Carlos/Thirstin are opening the N6 show.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I should totally crash the Rochester Show - Friends Forever style with my laptop on a bike

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy Christ! This is gonna be insane... Look out Detroit! Are Wolf Eyes playing too? That would be perfection.

― Brad Willford, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the tour poster...

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's the tour poster...

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the image posting stuff has been changed; to post an image now, use the format: ih t t p://address

(except without the spaces.)?

(i e-mailed ya re: providence.)

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloody hell....

ihttp://207.234.242.137/tlasila_tour_poster_(sm).jpg

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

try this:

ihttp://207.234.242.137/tlasila_tour_poster_(sm).jpg

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

damn, can't wait. B'more to Newport, KY is one helluva long drive though.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, just add (sm).jpg to the address when you click on it. (it don't like parens)

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I certainly screwed that up. But if you go to this address (http://207.234.242.137/tlasila_tour_poster_(sm).jpg), you can see the poster. Maybe someone would be kind enough to post it here, seeing as how I've obviously experienced difficulty with the coding.

And thanks to you, Ian.

Cheers,

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://207.234.242.137/tlasila_tour_poster_(sm).jpg

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I am curious. Should I go to this?

― na (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i will go to this in baltimore. jon, i havent heard any of the stuff. compare to wolf eyes.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Will my girlfriend like this show?

― na (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yesss yessss na you should attend... dear to live & shave, please take the top of my sweet little head and send it flying across the room just as you did in march... yessssss, yes. rat bought me a drink! tom dripped sweat on my forehead. ultra-violence as valentine, hardcore beats masking hardcore social commentary... i thank you for returning to us, and i will be waiting for more of your gifts... shave!!

― sylvia k., Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

NO, THEY ARE TOO MACHO.

(although I know some girls who liked their No Fun appearance.)

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Hard to compare Wolf Eyes to Shave. They've all played together previously (Dilloway, W.K. and Smith were in a short-lived mid-90s group called "Sucking Co-Eds"), and they share a similar aesthetic, so perhaps that will give you something to go on. TLASILA are far more complex on record, stretching the audio envelope about as far as its ever been manipulated. Smith is probably one of the best vocalists alive, at least among the people who make this crazy-ass sub-category of music. In that regard, Wolf Eyes are lacking. However, WE can be said to have the edge in a live setting. They can be truly amazing on any given evening. (To be fair, the Shave tour of 1999 was also legendary.) Both were excellent at NFF, but, let's be real, Wolf Eyes won the war. It should be interesting regardless, especially with Fleming, Morgan from Sightings, and the little-known, obscure W.K.!

― Wike Mallace, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

All the babes I know wanted to jump Tom Smith's bones after No Fun.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

man - this should be exciting.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

um, no philly show? who do i have to contact to set one up?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

NO, THEY ARE TOO MACHO.

(although I know some girls who liked their No Fun appearance.)

this is ridiculous and indicative of the general misogyny in noise that is the main reason I don't like to go to noise shows or hang out with Jon Williams, okay tx bye

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

To give them a little credit, I think this was hstencil using a NOISE DUDE meme that had previously been applied to Wolf Eyes. I am predicting "It was just a joke!" in 3...2...

― na (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the overreaction is far more ridiculous than the quoted text, but that could be me (especially bearing in mind the amount of women present at that show as both performers and audience members).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even know what to say to that.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

that wasn't overreacting...aw, forget it

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck you. How's about that for an overreaction?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Women in overeacting to harmless joke shocka! xpost

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"It was just a joke!"

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

May I suggest not aggravating this spat further, please?

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

why don't you BLOG about it Gygax

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://ilx.p3r.net/thread.php?msgid=4893634

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

*shrug* Actually I just was here to say that oddly enough I'm listening to An Interview with the Mitchell Brothers here at work, but it seems that the subject of discussion has changed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

If I may, I'd like to weigh in on the subject of misogyny in noise, especially as it might relate to TLASILA. Believe me, TS and company are very respectful of women, love them whole-heartedly, and reject the notion that "agressive" or energetic performances are somehow singularly male traits. These guys are wild on stage, true, but how the heck would that make them misogynistic? TS devoted five years of his life to "The Wigmaker in Eighteenth Century Williamsburg," the acclaimed 2002 double-album which told the story of the collapse of his marriage from multiple perspectives... Its even-handedness and startling objectivity was probably the thing that finally woke most of the world's press out of their stupor re TLASILA. The Wire, New York Times, Rolling Stone... Hell, everyone say it for what it was. There was no wife-bashing, woman-hating, etc. Not to go overboard on this point, but with all due respect to hstencil, TLASILA are decidedly not "macho," at least in the negative sense of that term. They are masculine, absolutely, and rock the friggin' house down to its foundations. But misogynistic? No. Ladies, you may rock along in delirious solidarity.

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

TLASILA dudes: the "macho" thing is a running WOLF EYES joke here.

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus H. Bananafish, how can you listen to "Mitchell Brothers" at your job? I am dumb-founded... Where do you work, Mr. Raggett?

BTW: that album IMHO is also very even-handed in its portrayal of sordid, tragic protagonists. It's a little dreary sonically, but Smith really didn't reach the heights of "mannercreme" again until "Tonal Harmony." After that release, of course, it's all upward and onward. (Again, IMHO.)

― bebopcretin, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus H. Bananafish, how can you listen to "Mitchell Brothers" at your job? I am dumb-founded... Where do you work, Mr. Raggett?

A library! Office space rather than the stacks, and since it's shared I can't crank it up too loud, but yeah, listening to it right now -- "CB Mamas" currently.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Re "Mitchell Brothers": one of the albums we'll be issuing in the next six months or so will be TLASILA's "Les Tricoteuses," the 1997 dub/remix version of "Interview" that was scheduled for a November '97 launch on a French label that managed to go bankrupt a month prior to the album's release. It's way out there, and an interesting precursor to the multi-layered mayhem of "Wigmaker," "God and Country Rally," etc.

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Maria,

I forwarded your message to Tom. He writes in reply:

"To maria tessa sciarrino,

Sorry Maria, but we went with Baltimore because we'd never played there before, whereas TLASILA did at least five gigs in Philly between '95 and '99. If we had more time, we'd visit again. But unfortunately, we've only got twelve days. We apologize for the oversight. Why don't you see us in Baltimore?

Best,

Tom Smith"

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So, I guess that's the official word regarding Philadelphia...

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

never heard a lick of this group's music, but have read enough about them to stoke my curiosity so I'll probably go to the B-more show.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"never heard a lick of this group's music, but have read enough about them to stoke my curiosity so I'll probably go to the B-more show."

dude, you're in for a treat. that's all i can say. at their worst, they're very entertaining. at their best, the red sea parts, amphibians rain from the sky, and music itself is fractured. here's hoping you catch them on a good night!

OP, out of luck in Idaho

― Oscar Perez, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I've been meaning to see what this Tarantula House or whatever is all about anyway. Plus the gig is on 9/11!

The TLASILA2 (spin-off from original group) B-more gig story from a few years back is pretty great. It involved audience members pulling offstage and attempting to kidnap a tripping-hard-on-acid Weasel Walter among other wild things.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"It involved audience members pulling offstage and attempting to kidnap a tripping-hard-on-acid Weasel Walter among other wild things."

TL&SILA 2 was like watching "Citizen Kane," except that the footage was colorized, and Orson Welles was replaced by Corey Feldman. Inferior to the original in every respect.

― bebopcretin, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno... I kinda dug Corey Feldman in the Magnificent Ambersons remake. BTW, it was David Ogden Stiers in TLASILA 2, and they remade The 400 Blows with a script they bootlegged from Tim Allen's hard drive... Wolf Eyes 3 are the ones who remade Citizen Kane!

― zedboy, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Plus the gig is on 9/11!"

Yeah!! That is the scary part. What a potentially dangerous comination! The crazy bastards of To Live and Shave, an album title that openly mocks the extreme religious right, elevated "terror" alerts up and down the Eastern seaboard, Twig and Carly already looking like Al-Qaeda operatives, and the whole festering ball o' wax melting in the heat of Baltimore's Tarantula Hill... This I gotta see!

― Wike Mallace, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

maria, you're only a hour and a half away from baltimore if you drive like a maniac

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

My girlfriend and I have tix for Shave @ Northsix, and we're thinking of making the trip up to the Flywheel. Can't do Tonic, however. We're getting married that afternoon! Ha!! Maybe they could "perform" (ooh, that sounds kinda nasty) at our reception!!

― zedboy, Thursday, 12 August 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Congratulations, zedboy! You'll have to ask AWK and the boys to sing you and your fiance an appropriate wedding song... Maybe something by Gary Numan!

― Wike Mallace, Thursday, 12 August 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

whats up with the public response? couldnt he just have sent me a private email? i dont like the idea of having to justify why i cant travel to baltimore for a show on a messageboard. its like talking about my period... or something.

perhaps next time around, perhaps next time around. until then, i shall have my memories of their past philly shows to tide me over.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 12 August 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm responsible for forwarding your words, Maria. I'm sorry if it creeped you out. Tom's been in a studio all day; no wi-fi, no internet, just a hell of a lot of racket. I left your post as a message on his cell. He phoned me later with a reply.

You don't have to justify nothin'. Maybe next time!!

― GK/TSSR, Thursday, 12 August 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

gk: 's cool. no sweat.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 12 August 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

more informat on the newport show... if i'm lucky, i'll get to go....

>September 12, 2004
>>
>> @ the Southgate House ballroom
>> 24 E. 3rd St
>> Newport KY
>> http://www.southgatehouse.com/static/home.html
>>
>>
>> To Live And Shave In LA
>> the legendary noise supergroup stops in Newport KY's
>> historic Southgate House ballroom on the
>> "God and Country" tour.
>> This line-up of TLASILA will include
>> the Frank Sinatra of noise, Tom Smith (vocals/electrons)
>> http://ohne_zentrale.tripod.com/ombio.htm
>> Don Fleming (guitar)
>> http://www.instantmayhem.com/
>> Rat Bastard (bass/electrons)
>> http://www.squelchers.com/
>> Mark Morgan (guitar)
>> http://www.furious.com/perfect/sightings.html
>> and joining TLASILA, the king of party, your friend...
>> Andrew W.K. (drums & vocals)
>> http://www.islandrecords.com/awkworld/news.las
>>
>> + a cavalcade of openers, with a side stage to keep
>> the action moving...
>>
>> Hair Police (gnarly Lex(Ypsi)ington nasties)
>> http://www.freedom-from.com/hairpolice/
>>
>> Tan As Fuck is Taiwan Deth (beach terror from Nashville)
>> http://www.tanasfuck.com/
>>
>> Irene Moon (ento-electronics from Lexx)
>> http://www.begoniasociety.com/pets2.htm
>>
>> Realicide (OH youth wrecks)
>> http://www.geocities.com/morepunklessrock/
>>
>> Black Fives (cream of the locomotive stud)
>> http://www.onehandrecords.com/theblackfives.html
>>
>> Burning Star Core (violin & mic love-maker)
>> http://www.dronedisco.com/bxc/
>>
>> Roesing Ape (fetal hearts beware)
>> http://www.roesingape.org
>>
>> Iovae (sub/ultra-sonic genital/bat stimulations)
>> http://www.uni-
>> mannheim.de/mateo/camena/melis2/books/schedemeletemata_9.html
>>
>>
>> $10 * 18+ * doors 8pm/show 9pm.
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> more info:
>>
>> Andrew.W.K. on Tom Smith/TLASILA...
>>
>> http://www.unearthed.com/news/2004/04/0000030643.shtml
>>
>> ANDREW W.K. will be playing drums in the band TO LIVE
>> AND SHAVE IN L.A. on their upcoming fall tour
>> beginning in September. "It is an honor that I've been
>> looking forward to for many years," Andrew said in a
>> recent online posting. "I am SO excited, I can't even
>> begin to tell you. The band, TO LIVE AND SHAVE IN L.A.
>> is a band that has been around for years. I did NOT
>> form this band (although I wish I had). An amazing man
>> named Tom Smith is the inventor and creator of this
>> band. When I first heard his music I was about 14
>> years old, maybe even younger. The music was SO
>> intense that at first I could barely listen to it - to
>> be honest, I was afraid of the way it sounded. It
>> didn't only sound scary, but the way it made me feel
>> was REALLY scary. Music is all about feeling, and this
>> man's music is FULL OF FEELING. TOTAL PASSION. I got
>> to meet Tom Smith about a year or so later, when I
>> played drums in a different band that he formed called
>> THE SUCKING CO-EDS - I think I was 15, or maybe just
>> 16 years old. I've seen Tom here and there through out
>> the last 10 years, and it's always a pleasure. He is
>> one of the greatest singers in the entire world and
>> he's one of my heroes. His new album 'The Wigmaker in
>> Eighteenth Century Williamsburg' is one of the
>> greatest and best albums I've ever heard in my entire
>> life. There is no way to explain or describe the
>> music, because again, it doesn't 'sound' a certain
>> way, and it doesn't make me 'think' about something...
>> it 'FEELS' amazing and completely fantastic. There's
>> nothing to compare it to, because it exists apart from
>> anything else I've ever experienced. I am blown away
>> and beside myself with excitement that I will be
>> playing drums with Tom Smith and the rest of TO LIVE
>> AND SHAVE IN L.A. on the upcoming September tour. More
>> details will come."
>>
>> see also... http://www.instantmayhem.com/tlasila_nff.htm

― msp, Thursday, 12 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

msp: that bill looks pretty intense; I love TAF, Irene Moon & Burning Star Core.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 12 August 2004 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmmm. Interesting thread. I admit to having once been rather dubious about TLASILA, as their early albums were near-unlistenable affairs, 74 minutes of very difficult-to-stomach mutli-layered squeal, and not a lot to hang on to from a human standpoint. Call me old fashioned, but I needed something to relate to, anything! Their early stuff was too alien and too alienating, plus it wasn't the clearest or best expression of what they could do. It's obvious that they are unique as Hell, and that their talents, which of late have seemed prodigious, were clearly wasted with abominations like "Vedder Vedder Bedwetter" and "Interview with the Mitchell Brothers". I still haven't heard their much-praised debut (at least it's well thought of in these forums), but I was won over by "Wigmaker", which, really, is pretty amazing. I'll check them out in Chicago probably, but I'm still a bit of a cynic.

― Seym Gaz, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone point me to info on "OHNE"? I went to the Mego site, but all they have in the way of bio is a silly bit of nonsense. There is an "official" OHNE site, apparently, http://ohne-oben.com, but it's mostly word-play, more of the same. Has anyone heard the Mego album? I'm not that familiar with Tom Smith's history, but I am a fan of Dave Phillips' music, and enjoy the releases of Daniel Lowenbrucke's label Tochnit Aleph. Are there other resources?

― mathias s, Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The Mego album has a great variety of colors and sounds--very digital, lots of environmental sounds, some...don't wanna call 'em beats, but...rhythmic or metered sounds? Anyway, TS croons on a couple of tracks, disappears back into the ether. Not at all like their live sound, which is mostly highly processed mouth/throat sound. Intranisitive Records carries a live cd recording from their Eastern European tour.

― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I croon merrily away... I am Tom Smith, and I resemble the above-referenced character. Gerard from Smack Shire said there was a guy here yesterday who might have a line on a Providence gig. Ian C? I'm asking for your help directly, Ian, because we are having problems finding a venue. We were supposed to perform at one place, but there was a miscommunication, so... Even with Andrew in the group (there's no point in being glib - his name carries considerable weight), we're not finding suitable options. Our deadline is fast approaching. Any possibility for assistance in or around Providence? Use my university email to contact me, please: ctsmith@valdosta.edu

Cheers,

Tom

― Tom Smith, Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Smith! Dude, why not bag boring old Prov and do a show here in New Hampshire?!

Olaf the Meek/Mighty

― Olaf Stillbourne, Thursday, 12 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

YO OLAF. DON'T START, DAWG. I GONNA DRIVE UP THER AND, DESPITE YOUR STATE MOTTO BEING COOLER, BUST A CAP DUDE.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 12 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, what's the deal with Providence? Why is it so hard for bands to land a noise gig there? Did all the clubs close? Why play there at all?

― bebopcretin, Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to have to make that Lexington show....FUCK I hope the goddam car makes it!

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Providence is a dead scene.

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i hope to make the lex show too. roger, why did i get the impression that you lived in nyc?
m.

― msp, Friday, 13 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

roger, Newport ain't Lexington. It's at least another hour up I-75 (near Cincy).

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

msp - i'll be a Tennessean as of Sept 1st

hstencil - eek, really? fuck.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't own Wigmaker. Maybe I'll pick it up today.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Newport's right next to Covington, which is right next to Cincy (well across the Ohio River) bros.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

ah... yeah, i just moved back to nashville myself.
m.

― msp, Friday, 13 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?ed=xTowJeV.wimQQVd6MsEKU7USFw--&csz=Nashville%2C+TN&country=us&tcsz=Newport%2C+KY&tcountry=us

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The deal with Providence is that all the noise dudes got evicted and, as a result, all the cool places to have shows are GONE.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 13 August 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello All,

The official To Live and Shave in L.A. site is finally up and running. There's still a TON of stuff to add, but for the moment, this will have to suffice. Tom's going through the archives, digging out all the old photos, videos, press coverage, etc. He has a crapload of scanning to do... There'll be contiunous updates from the "God and Country Rally!" tour, audio files added, etc.

http://www.toliveandshaveinla.com

Cheers,

GK/TSSR

(http://www.smackshire.com)

― GK/TSSR, Friday, 13 August 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

GK - Checking out the site, the bio is an interesting read. Does Tom Smith have a bone to pick with Tony Conrad/Table of the Elements or something? (album titled "Tony Conrad, Fat Ass" haha)

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Friday, 13 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL... I'm confident the title in question has more to do with the idea of challenging assumptions that lie unchallenged for decades than an attack on Conrad. Tom still has his original 1973 vinyl copy of "Outside the Dream Syndicate"!

― GK/TSSR, Friday, 13 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

oh ok. as much as I like his music, I still had a laugh at that title (sorry Tony).

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Friday, 13 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Uhhhh, dude, like, amazing blog. Why have one if your not posting? Dead air!

― dffdffd uuu67dd, Sunday, 15 August 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"dffdffd uuu67dd", you seem to have literacy issues, so i'm not 101% certain of your intent. if you refer to tlasila blog, there's been a new chapter published.

maybe you refer to drunk/spazz blog at dffdffd.net!

― sylvia k., Sunday, 15 August 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone here know how many shows Temple of Bon Matin are doing with TLS? I read the earlier mssg re their participation, but I can't find squat at the venue sites. Also... Hair Police!! How anyone know how many they're doing? Questions, answers...

― bebopcretin, Sunday, 15 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Breaking News!

To Live and Shave in L.A. have (finally) secured their Providence venue.

September 17 -- Safari Lounge / Providence, RI

103 Eddy Street
Providence, RI

http://go.to/safariri

Ben from Load is settng this up for us, so it should prove to be KILLER.

― GK/TSSR, Monday, 16 August 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

any word on the opening bands in RI?

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

RPS, I only received this from Rat Bastard a few minutes ago... No word yet. I'm guessing there'll be several Load artists in support, but there's no telling with Mr. McOsker.

Regards,

Gerard

― GK/TSSR, Monday, 16 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

*hoping for Brinkman*

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I'm still holding out for Yma Sumac and Eddie Cochran!

― GK/TSSR, Monday, 16 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

WHITE MICE? WHITE MICE!

Glad to hear ya'll got a Providence show worked out!

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Ian,

Thanks for all your help; I know that Tom and the boys really appreciated it.

Best,

― GK/TSSR, Monday, 16 August 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh My Frikkin' GAWD! I just heard God and Country Rally... Jesus, what a mind-fucker. I'm speechless. Back to the lab, dudes, and give us more of this!

― bebopcretin, Monday, 16 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Favorite tracks so far: "Kiss Twat", "Little Sleeping Girls' Pills", and "Demons Hip Naltrexone With Sick", which has a truly SICK drum break! Wow...

― bebopcretin, Monday, 16 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there's no point in being glib

This is

Event #2:
a marketing tool
a vehicle for self-promotion

http://www.wickedwebweweave.com/BestHardParts/images/bent_over.jpg

It's allright
http://www.loureed.nl/images/Lou_Reed_SC.jpg

Cheers,

Tom $mith

― Russ (Russ), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.monotract.com/nofun/index_files/header.jpg

― Russ (Russ), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ohhh but you're wrong... everyone at ilm, including yourself, "russ", is an altruist, grinding no axe, plugging no product, pushing no point of view. sooooo, i see now, no single thread in the herstory of the board had ever before espoused anything but 100 per cent objectivity... no opinions, no point of view, no promotion of ideas or favorite groups or past/present/future events or favorite songs or albums or shirts worn by artists or chuck eddys hemmoroid cream or anything except the lord's truth as handed down by you?

you are no-fun, "russ", and your attached photo does you justice, mr. wrinkles. you must have a very, very, very small penis to be so embittered. enjoy the rest of your pure existense, mr. talibannnnnn...

― sylvia k., Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sylvia OTM

Russ, you marketed your opinion very effectively. It is clear that you have mastered the art of self-promotion. Jeez, what a hypocrite! Take off that burka and live a little, chum.

Scott Gold

― scott gold, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

This has turned into a very psychotic thread... I'm not sure who Russ is referring to, but I've met the guy he seems to despise (Tom, that is), and he struck me as being very decent, self-effacing, and not just some initmidating loon spazzing around on stage. Perhaps Russ had a different experience with him. Me, my girlfriend, and and two friends from school cornered him after the TLSLA NFF set and he was very generous, introducing us to friends of his, even giving us an extra CD for making the drive from Philly. I'd also be interested in knowing exactly how much money Mr. "$mith" has earned with his obscure efforts. It must be approaching the five-hundred-dollar mark by now!

― Moss, Henning, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm confused. is 'russ' attempting to compare tlasila with sodomy? tom smith with lou reed? a thread announcing a tour as bad with, for example, a thread calling attention to a animal collective or sonic youth show, which presumably, are/were good? by using graphic materials in an effort to bolster his point, does he not realize that he is marketing an idea? does it not dawn on him that unless his pet parakeet sent his message, that he was indulging in 'self-promotion'? how can one be 'tired of being bent over' an idea? the previous poster's comment is interesting:

'I'd also be interested in knowing exactly how much money Mr. "$mith" has earned with his obscure efforts. It must be approaching the five-hundred-dollar mark by now!'

if $$$$ is tlasila's motivation, they must have made thousands... of pennies... from radio-friendly audio-ebola such as 'mitchell brothers.' if 'russ' is pushing the smith/reed comparison, then tom must be stuck somewhere between 'european son' and 'metal machine music', because i haven't exactly heard his 'walk on the wild side'.

like most ill-considered attacks, 'russ' exposes more about his neuroses than anything else. smack shire is smith's label, so what? it's info, we're adults, and we see hype for what it is. it's self-promoting, but it's transparent, and amusing. 'russ' just seems like a tired old dude...

― dr. tracie, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

NO FUN FEST - (NYC March 19-21)

Tom Smith posts to ILX, is nice, etc!

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()()()()()()(()()()()(()()()()) (ex machina), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahahahahahaha!

― dr. tracie, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Russ booked the basement at No Fun, fules.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, sometimes i think people read to much into tossed chicken bones.

but hey, maybe i'm confused.
m.

― msp, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

college is cool.

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

jack cole OTM!

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

tutu too to two tutus?
m.

― msp, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it hardly makes a difference that russ booked the downstairs at a club festival, hstencil. he made an insipid accusation, and was called on it. having the presence of mind to give a performance slot to air condition sadly fails to confer infallability. i receive smack shire updates, and i know that klauder opened this thread very transparently - promo for the tour. russ put the feet of everyone in his family in his mouth and he should feel foolish for it. smith is no fucking saint but in terms of sheer cred, and a career of unstinting sonic warpage, he's way the heck up there in the pantheon of cool. off soapbox.

p.s. cole, you continue to disparage college, youth, etc. you must be a drop-out, right? it tok me nine years to earn my doctorate and believe me, it's a lot easier for a lard-ass on death's door like i'm guessing you must be to ridicule us instead of actually doing the work.

off soapbox ii.

― dr. tracie, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

that's all you got?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

he said i was fat, gygax! -- will you hold me whilst i cry?

― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

no jack, that is monchichi's job.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm one of Russ's best friends, and I don't even know what his intentions are, so I doubt some stranger on the internet has any greater insight. And if Tom is being accused of anything, he can defend himself.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

You're all wrong re: the intended "target" of my insipid accusation.
Improper html usage muddled the meaning of my (intentionally cryptic) first post, and necessitated the second, confusing things further.
Although related, the bit about Tom was merely an aside...and for all I care, Gerard can start as many promo threads as he wants to.

No Fun = Now Wave
http://www.skingraftrecords.com/graphics/biglppics/gr50stickbig.gif

Enjoy,

― Russ (Russ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This has gotten slightly out of hand. I apologize for offending anyone. I have noted in the past that TLASILA enthusiasts have posted to ILX. Tom has also been upfront about his occasional lurking and posting. I admired his honesty in that regard. I only wished to inform the groups fans about the September dates. Tom popped in to inquire re help with the Providence show, which for a week seemed in jeopardy. That's all I was attempting to do.

Russ is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, a friend, or at least an acquaintance of Tom's, and from what I understand, he's a sincere, capable, and thoroughly cool individual. As far as I know (and I don't claim to know much of what occurs in Tom's mind), there is no beef between the two. Why on Earth should there be?

Smack Shire is owned by me, and administered by me. Tom is - and there are no official positions here, no staff - the A&R guy. His insights and instincts are valuable. In the end, the blame rests with me. However, I consider Tom a partner in the venture. OK?

In my opinion, it's ludicrous to ponder the tremendous fortune Tom has accumulated from his 30 years in the music business. He has, to my knowledge, accumulated nothing (save a very large record collection). Why would anyone begrudge him the fruits (meager as they will be compared to any mid-level indie/alt group touring the national circuit) of his labors?

Andrew W.K. has been a friend of Tom's since 1995. Andrew asked to join TLASILA. Tom has performed with AWK, has recorded with him on several occasions, and knows his musical capabilities first-hand. Andrew will not be "Andrew W.K." on this tour. He will be playing drums. He enjoys a modicum of fame. Again, why should anyone begrudge him his (mini-)celebrity?

I thank you for your time, and I again apologize if anyone was offended by this use of ILX to promote the tour.

― GK/TSSR, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

don't sweat it, you haven't offended anyone! quite the contrary, nice to hear what Tom's up to. Unfortunately I'm gonna miss the 9/10 NYC show, dammit.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, bring the news! shit, inane top 100 electroclassical lists are sorta fun and all, but news is totally rockin.

spread the gospel!

haters can get bent. i don't think any Hating TM was happening anyhow, just Misunderstanding (c). (shockah!)

[places everybody! let's run through that scene one more time!]
m.

ps this message brought to you by coffee with sugar.

― msp, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

so, umm...where did you guys hear the new album? Is it out? Slsk?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

my gf manages a reccord shop. she got a promo. she was only slightly familiar with tl&s, but i freeked. i've listened to it nonstop since last thurs.

no crap, no hot air, no preachin' - this one is amazing. really, truly, amazing.

i'll let the rest of you decide for yourselves!

― bebopcretin, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm superpsyched. i've been on a big wigmaker kick

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Re TLASILA tour:

Just added, September 18:

An early afternoon show at SUNY Purchase. It should start around 2:00.

The band will play later that night at Tonic, NYC.

http://www.purchase.edu

Thanks for your time,

― GK/TSSR, Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so sad i can see tlasila, especially with don playing with the group this time out. sigh.

― jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa, this thread is alive.

m. cole, is that a freud-slip? "can," or "can't"?

a real sigh or an ironic non-sigh? a meta-sigh?

― sylvia k., Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

reading into hung over posts = metaphysical. dude.

― brock (brock), Sunday, 22 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Purchase! That's where I went. Altho it hasn't been called 'SUNY' in several years - it's just Purchase College now. FYI.

That should be a great show, right around orientation time and all. Will blow freshman minds.

Man, I miss Purchase so much, it's literally difficult for me to be there

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'M GETTING SO EXCITED YOU DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND.>.>.>...
http://thighswideshut.org/videos/sax.gif

― brock (brock), Sunday, 29 August 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Had to dig around to find this thread... Did anyone read Chuck Eddy's "Editor's Pick" in the Voice regarding TLSLA? It reminded me of a neo-con rant, like something from Alan Keyes! Very snarky, even bitter in tone.

"Eternally hipper-than-thou "free glam" pigfuckers TLASILA have not included Misty Martinez for ages, but (at least on tour) do now include Andrew W.K. Their main guy remains aging Peach of Immortality/Pussy Galore charlatan Tom Smith. Their new CD features intriguing skronk doodling under whiny histrionic malarkey recalling Nick Cave in 1983."

Too much! It just makes me want to go see them more.

If we analyze Eddy's diatribe, it can be boiled down to:

"I'm going to drink another beer and dash out a blurb for this show while watching CMT."

I love noise, so I'm not inclined to agree with Chuck Eddy on much of anything. But I thank him for the provocation! I wouldn't miss this for the world... If Tom Smith is a charlatan, then please, bring on the charlatans!

Zalt

― Zalt Vyxle (zaltvyxle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHA I AM DUMB AND DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS IN PUSSY GALORE?!

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Thursday, 9 September 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't sweat it, math blaster. neither should you, zalt. shave fans will see shave regardless, eddy fans will read eddy regardless. two entirely different audiences. (smith was in pussy g. for 6 months in the mid-80s.)

― bower, Thursday, 9 September 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe my post came out wrong. What I meant to say was that I thought Eddy's text was bizarre, and maybe total bullshit. I don't know anything about Chuck Eddy or Tom Smith as people, but I've read Eddy's (and Smith's) music criticism, and I've listened to TLS. I like them both as writers (Smith seems to dig the "out-there" stuff, while Eddy seems to dig the "down-home" stuff), but isn't Chuck much older than Tom? The question should be: Who is aging better? Which one likes weird old stuff like Kix (Eddy), and which one likes weird old stuff like Stockhausen (Smith)? Sounds like Eddy's the pot that calls the kettle black. How can a guy who's done 40-50 albums be characterized as a phony? Wouldn't people have caught on if the guy was a "charlatan"? I think people enjoy Eddy and Smith because they are true to themselves, and neither one probably gives a crap about what anyone thinks. I sense that Eddy was just being silly and a little phony himself. Guess I'll have to see about TLS's supposed faults in person... If he's truly hipper than me, however, he won't even talk to me!

― Zalt Vyxle (zaltvyxle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus, zalt, you're making me all jumpy. what are you, 12? just relax. if you hate one, you love the other. they're opposing forces. one cancels the other. everyone knows eddy's a crank, and smith's rep as a nasty wise-ass is legendary. what would you expect from an eddy review of shave? hero worship? re kix vs. stock, i side with kix. re shave vs. eddy, i give the nod to shave. like i said, tho, it's matter/anti-matter. it ain't all that important.

― bower, Thursday, 9 September 2004 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This mini-thread is ridiculous. Eddy is a fucking idiot; no one here in NYC pays him any mind whatsoever. TLASILA aren't populists, aren't dolts, aren't anything easily summarized. Eddy is a populist dolt who can be easily summarized: sentimental, cynical cunt. Montgomery Gentry, yee-haw! As one aging rock critic loses his mind, so one aging "rock" god continues expanding his. Maybe the previous (anonymous) poster had a point about polarities, and cancellation; it seems an utter waste to allow Eddy to expound on anything, save his expanding waistline and the pop slop he wallows in.

Vim Vigor

blueozotlkult@yahoo.com

― V Vigor, Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, chuck just listens to montgomery gentry:

another list of new albums i can play all the way through without hardly getting sick to my stomach at all

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 September 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Please do not weep for me. Mr. Eddy has me dead to rights. I am a 48-year-old elitist pigfucker grifter with a marked penchant for tinny oratory and literary mumbo-jumbo. I salute Mr. Eddy, and bear him no ill will. As for the rest of you, please refrain from sending further e-mails alerting me to this supposed foul mistreatment. My skin, as Mr. Eddy thoughtfully indicated, is wizened, and quite thick.

Sincerely,

Tom

― Tom Smith, Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i love how all these personas show up at once with no linking page showing up in the Log... It's a mystical confluence of near-divine teatmice.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 9 September 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

has anybody traced IP addresses ?

― Russ (Russ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I just downloaded Pussy Galore's "Exile on Main Street" (almost said Guyville ROFFLE)

Is this any good?

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

check out PG - "Dial 'M' For Motherfucker"

― brock (brock), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Since when I am a "populist"??? Sorry, that's just stupid. I liked Tom Smith's post above a lot. The album is okay, too. And I said so. (Gave the show a "Pick," and plugged Carlos Giffoni too. Said he would make Thurston's music less mellow. I bet I've played that Old Bombs album more than anybody on this thread, except maybe Scott.)

― chuck, Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

And Tom's at least four years older than me, apparently. (Though I'm aging, too, of course. Who isn't?) But I bet I listen to at least as much "out" stuff as he does. And I don't think the world ends there.

― chuck, Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus chuck, don't show that hip edge. anymore i'm gettin' blinded.

― brock (brock), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

is that animated clip up top TLASILA? Because if so - I MUST SEE THIS BAND.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

rent Thunderdome, brah.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i am surprised jon hadn't heard pussy galore yet.

this thread is another victim of "internet connection sharing". with sexy results.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yep. damn shame you'll never find a TSASILA record in tower. THOUGH i did get two releases off of amazon used......yIP.

― brock (brock), Thursday, 9 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

yep. damn shame you'll never find a TSASILA record in tower.

I saw three of 'em there in the mid-late '90s. And the Peach of Immortality Talking Heads '77 CD reissue. Maybe Atlanta just had a really hip Tower.

― Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Friday, 10 September 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i have some pussy galore 12"

― MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Friday, 10 September 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

what time is the 9/11 show? can't find any info at the Tarantula Hill website.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

check out the
hope that works cause im drunk yip

― brock (brock), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ok fuck it
http://www.toliveandshaveinla.com

― brock (brock), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.szekely-budosport.hu/kepek/k2.jpg

― brock (brock), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that site has no info regarding the show time and the link for the venue is bust. stay at home, it is.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

who went last night?

― brock (brock), Saturday, 11 September 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

are you kidding me? no one in the CULTURAL HOTBED OF AMERICA went to north 6 last night?pshaw. bring on the safari lounge.

― brock (brock), Saturday, 11 September 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

they were v. good in b-more. andrew w.k. is a great drummer. i was expecting their sound to be cut-up noise/electronic, but it was more like airplane-engine guitars over disco drumming. crowd went nuts.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

AWESOME
who else played?

― brock (brock), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the first group was the people who lived in the depressing crackhouse where the gig was. so I guess it was nautical almanac. they coaxed some interesting sound out of their set-up, but the vocals kind of ruined it. same goes for the second group whose name I don't know.

actually, "crack-house" would be a good genre-term for the music tlasila played that night.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha lovely. those crack-house heads do some of the raddest circuit bending goin on right now.

― brock (brock), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.heresee.com/ourlittlehome/

― dean? (deangulberry), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Krackhouse.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

they have so much space its absurd
probably dont pay anything for rent.

― brock (brock), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

to be fair, my opinion was based on the extent of what i saw, which is in these pics
http://www.heresee.com/ourlittlehome/stairwell.jpg
http://www.heresee.com/ourlittlehome/tarantulahill1.jpg
nice to know that the rest of the place is somewhat nicer. they get props for living in such an isolated part of the city. perfect venue for a wolf eyes gig i bet.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 12 September 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/235000/images/_239970_crack300.jpg

― Russ (Russ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like she's polishing her glass eye.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Sunday, 12 September 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i got shit from girls for not going to the show, but i still hung out with Ren. fuck $12.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 13 September 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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