Jandek live?

this is officially the fourth thread in the past 36 hours.

me too!

If I wasn't old and lame I swear I'd run away from home to see this. The festval is rather called 'A Music Lover's Field Companion' which I think is a John Cage reference. Whatever, it sounds like three days of howling at the moon to me.

I wonder if the man will play some hits.. you know. that gig in scotland was all new material, or so it seemed. I want him to play Down In A Mirror, Naked In The Afternoon, Only Lover etc. etc.

i think i read on the Jandek mailinglist that the Man from Corwood himself confirmed this on the phone, yes.. (i don't know if he confirmed a dvd though, definetely a cd) i guess it will be out AFTER his new album "When I Took That Train" finally hits the streets. (there have been delays, i think..)

but yeah, wierd. good for him tho.

SO OTM!

"Ah yes, I remember it well. 'Twas a Glasgow Sunday ... "

Say hello to the old goth.

Apparently Jandek is going to do a new piece called (I think) "The Cell" and has warned the easily-offended to attend at their own risk.

Held a mostly cross-legged audience for around an hour in a hot and stuffy venue, but I'm afraid we bailed out for the bar after less than twenty minutes. (You can hate us now.)

He really seemed to be working through some stuff.

He looked old.

i thought it was incredible, one of the top 5 or so live experiences of my life. i wasn't the least bit depressed by it, it was very beautiful. Jandek looked very self contained, not nervous or shy or any of the things we would normally expect from a "recluse". i didn't think the venue was stuffy and and i wasn't bored at all. Also there was no viola played.

The percussionist did a sterling job, bowing just about everything on his drumkit, not playing it conventionally at any point. the highlight was the tibetan singing bowl, especially the smaller one. it's amazing how something that small can produce such a piercing sound. The sound in the venue is brilliant.

I agree that the percussionist was really excellent. It was fascinating to hear the interplay between he and J, the shimmering/clanging/shrieking that echoed/contrasted the impressionistic piano-lines and the winsome/breathy questions of the piano-man.

Not unlike Elton John when he plays with Ray Cooper then?

Oh - I didn't recognize Alex from Lucky Luke; that makes a lot of sense!

you don't believe it? your religion sucks. BELIEVE IT NOW BROTHER

ite, show @ 7pm, doors @6:30. The plan. follow it. the life of a night time, yeeeeaah!

meet at QFC on 1st and repub. get something really cheap and shitty from the deli. thats what its there for. lots of shitty cheap deli shit. youll need the energy and youll need the money for boozage.

head to easy street and scope out the honies going to jandek lookin through the used sections for all that funky shit like that. popol vuh, amon duul, think burning man wimmin. earthy, yes, but hotness exists in allness. dont be a hater. just dont burp or fart out the qfc crap you ate. baaad karma and bad smells.

go to pags to get some slicers. remember, cheaper food, more boozage later.

head to floyds to catch some tv and a game, and split some ribs. get drunk there.. not that preppy pub bullshit around the corner from rasha. floyds is the deal. worship the dancing pig and cow. nobody goes there = mecca for cheap drinks.

save the quality alky for mirabeau room. ok, babes? there. always. go there, prepare to have your card or some twennies, because theres always time to chat flirt spurt freak laugh hug and who knows what.

then on the way to the show, ozzie's. karaoke remember? and i cant stress this enough. youll only have time to do one karaoke number if yer lucky. so pick a good one. and heres my recommendation. whitesnake. "here i go again". yeah whitenakes sucks. everyone knows whitesnake sucks. but everyone knows that song and everyone can remember the chorus. thats all you need to know. just ape the verses. who gives a shit. but you GOTTA just put motherfuckin BALLS into the chorus. you know why? that coverdale dude never did. he fuckin phoned it in. even if he meant it, he never followed through. have you seen that shitty video? the man is a bored bonnie tyler with a dick. except without swagger. THE KEY, MY BRO. you cant just belt out "here i go again on my own". you gotta have swagger. no skills needed. you need heart. showing off your muscles, your hat, your belly, whatever. people love that shit. put your heart into it and you might as well hang a sign over your dick sayin "look just get on this already. good times guaranteed." you want proof? come check it out and dont chicken out. if you cant spend three minutes aping a shitty whitesnake song at ozzie's in order to get maybe the love of your life, you deserve to be a virginarian.

so you get to choose from the crowd of hotties who want all of you after "here i go again" and yer off to school them on some really freak shit. they love that you can do the cock rock and then be a witness to the freak rock. yer showing science.

ON THE BROADS. their putting on a show at 100 roy west just a block away or something. you can stumble there now. and guess what.. its 6:30 or 7 or something, and behold.

JANDEK.

motherfucking JAAAANDDEEEEEEKKK!!

texas roots. no protection necessary. no bullshit. this is like only eighth show in america or something. youll never see him and his rock in this town again. miss this if you have the chance and convenience and wanna but dont go and you a choad, ma man. just tattoo "me a choad" on you already. fuck.

i cant wait. i mean once the jams start to hit, im gonna blow up the floor with fuckin napolean dynamite like in pedros class president skit shit. VOTE FOR JANDEK. dont laugh. the real deal.

SEE YOU IN THE LOVE PIT, BRO!

(heh, ok seriously, I'm really excited about this. I'll be there by 7pm, probably earlier, and hope to see whoever of you is going there. :D)

if the man can afford a new cadillac based on his music and his day job, if he has one or not, then the world is a slightly better place.

would it be more comforting for my soul if he train-hobo'ed back to Houston instead?

All these questions, musings, past show reviews, and stories were swirling in my head moments before he was to take the stage. Then the announcer came to introduce the band. The players, Emil Amos on drums, Sam Coones on bass, and Liz Harris & Jessica Dennison on additional vocals walked out to applause. Then Jandek strolled out to greater applause, completely unphased by the adoration. He was oddly deliberate as he strapped on his guitar, and plugged it into his amplifier, only intensifying the anticipation.

So, what does Jandek's music sound like?

The best answer I can offer is another question. What does insomnia sound like?

It feels slightly ill, yet one is firmly grounded. The fight to prevent the body's urge to shut itself down for the day is not sabotaged after all. There are side effects. An insomniac often finds oneself trying to put two and two together to form a coherent pattern only to have a third element come along to involuntarily derail the attempt to mentally bind the former two. Thoughts become verbal in neither a spoken nor sung voice. The brain has neither the energy to allow these words or thoughts to follow a speaking pattern nor cling to a single note without dropping down the pitch. There's a constant battle between frustration, angst, euphoria, and meditation -- all which serve to prevent oneself from realizing that "Goddamnit! I can't go to sleep! WHY??"

Jandek was in complete control over a backing band who were well trained soldiers that were seemingly sleep deprived, yet they fought hard and did their job. All Jandek had to do was turn his head slowly to the band to let them know when a song was going to end, and the song would end. Jandek, Harris, and Dennison took turns thoughout the set singing the lyrics on music stands purposely showing no emotion or drive, letting each his or her lack of struggle to hold onto a note falter.

This was a strange juxtaposition to Jandek's occasional slow paced knee strutter as he concentrated on playing jarring dissonant chords and singular notes in no set rhythm pattern. Guitar resonance was avoided as much as possible. Whenever Jandek made a "right" sound, it was clearly a mistake.

Coones and Amos were an excellent, dynamic rhythm section that provided the two elements of groove that occasionally blended, only to have Jandek turn around and fire off another round of guitar sickness to obfuscate the groove. Coones played blues-y bass lines that were the main rhythm foundation, whereas Amos followed both Coones and Jandek, erratically petting and exploding all over his drum set alternately. Harris and Dennison made for great still life vocal counterparts to Jandek's singing, all coming together on the long, loud, and disturbing song involving a repeating chorus with the lyric "You Belong To Me".

Jandek may not know or care about the early 80's days of Glenn Branca or Sonic Youth, however the louder songs of the set did bring these two artists to mind. There was no way to make other such comparisons with the slower songs. Amos got up during one such song only to lie on the floor in front of his rig as he softly tapped the front of his kick drum with his soft mallets. Amos could have been in a mild trance halfway through -- until, of course, Jandek turned around.

I wasn't sure if my amazement with the show was due to the band's ability to make me feel like I had mentally lost something I did not lose, or the fact that it took me ten minutes after the show to realize I had witnessed The Legendary Jandek as opposed to possibly one of the most unique live bands I've ever seen. Mysterious musicians are fun to talk about, but musicans who are extremely subtle masters of deliberation make one speechless.

Stoic is too flamboyant an adjective to describe Jandek. His hollow cheeks somehow symbolize/embody his aesthetics, a gaunt version of rock, rock as void. Even when Jandek and his band "rocked out," you could sense the enervation and futility of their endeavor, and for some reason this deadpan nullity resonated to your core. Never have I been so numb yet so riveted at a show.

Most of his Seattle set was a flatline, grayscale trawl that had no particular place to go, not in this lifetime, and many of the songs sounded like defeated/deflated cover versions of Syd Barrett's "Maisie" or Low at their most lethargic and drained of whatever belief system they misguidedly cling to.

With Johnny Cash dead, Jandek is the man in black. He walked off the stage without acknowledging the crowd's desultorily rapturous applause and grabbed what looked like an old-fashioned doctor's bag before vanishing.

Nice way of putting it -- you could almost say the same thing about Dylan Carlson and Earth, though aiming at different end results. (Actually what a great double bill THAT would be!)

just read that our forum hero John D is going to play keys at a Jandek show in Chapel Hill. He can tell us all about the man afterwards. (oh wait discretion) :)

Whenever Jandek made a "right" sound, it was clearly a mistake.

lol

dude finally rescheduled his new orleans show--which was supposed to be in september 2005 and obviously didn't happen--for next month. i was told he's playing with a piano-and-theremin setup. looking forward to it with more enthusiasm than i ever thought i could muster for jandek.

wow, adam can you post more details if you have them? date? thx!

don't worry i am not going to bump this thread everytime there's Jandek news, but the Chapel Hill gig's been played (obviously) and there's a review with cool photos here: http://www.indyweekblogs.com/scan/2009/02/live-jandek-a-raucous-rhythm-section-plus-exclusive-photos/

also: http://www.indyweekblogs.com/scan/2009/02/jandeks-coming-no-1-john-darnielle-on-jandek/

Yeah, don't bump this thread again because it might obscure the thread with a poll on the best song from the Billboard R&B chart in 1987.

please DO bump this thread

also, u can turn polls off in user preferences, it has vastly improved my ILM experience.

so you're missing my gene clark poll!?

wow, adam can you post more details if you have them? date? thx!

it's march 16 at the dixon hall annex at tulane. 15 bucks i think? probably worth it.

Yeah, don't bump this thread again because it might obscure the thread with a poll on the best song from the Billboard R&B chart in 1987.

hehe. i like polls though, voting, voting, voting.
if we do a best track of every Jandek album poll we'll be busy til kingdom comes.

we should at LEAST do a favorite album poll, just so i can have an internal argument between lost cause & you walk alone.

yeah how many options are allowed in polls 50+
i am rooting for You Walk Alone as well i think. (end poll)

so you're missing my gene clark poll!?

ha, no, I have ILX set to not remember me, so I see the polls until I log in to post. best of both worlds!

we should totally do a best Jandek album poll. I swear I might vote for Put Your Dream On This Planet. You Walk Alone or Blue Corpse would probably win though.

new orleans show was good but also sort of not. improvised piano plinking with theremin tones. for an hour. i would have happily paid twice what i did but i can't say i was blown away.

that said i am going to houston to see jandek again tomorrow. this time i'm told he is playing with "hip hop bass and drums" and that there will be "rapped vocals" delivered by jandek himself. so basically it's a can't-miss.

haha lol that should be good :)

new orleans show was good but also sort of not. improvised piano plinking with theremin tones. for an hour.
no vox right? i think a Jandek show should have vocals, what's the point without some of his wailing.

no vocals. eerie blue lighting. early show, no booze, no smoking, seated venue. it was on tulane's campus across the quad from a billy collins reading. the early-dusk combination of jandek fans, billy collins enthusiasts and short-shorted sorority girls was kind of great especially because i had the foresight to get tanked at the bar pre-show.

houston show is a matinee (??) so we'll see how this goes.

playing with "hip hop bass and drums" and that there will be "rapped vocals" delivered by jandek himself.

wow

How cool would it be if he turned out to be one of the most skilled rappers of all time, just mind-blowing flow and lyrical dexterity, but no one knew until this point including him.

The hip hop updates are 3 days late, right? And Jeff Porcaro is drumming in place of Alex Nielson?

In September he will play Incubate in Holland http://incubate.org/2009/act/115/Jandek

There's also a tour of Ireland coming up with David Keenan and Heather Leigh Murray in the band. People of Larne, your moment has come.

curious on that one!

Yeah, it's a strange one. First tour he's done I think, he's playing about 5 dates, most of those in fairly small towns.

its keenan playing drums isn't it...hmmmm...the trio w/ Heather and Alan Licht was cool, tho, so wld go if...

He's playing in Vienna on the 14th October too..

Jandek's doing an in-store at HMV in Belfast!

http://thehiddenreverse.blogspot.com/2009/07/tate-tower.html

Bonkers!

Will he be signing records too?!

Unrelated to Jandek, but Keenan's new "Hypnagogic Pop" thing has an even more stupid name than New Weird America.

Haven't quite mustered the requisite intestinal fortitude to read that article in its entirety yet. Seems like a phrase you'd apply to MBV or something shoegazey though rather than whatever he's talking about.

David Keenan's write-up of the Irish tour:

http://thehiddenreverse.blogspot.com/2009/08/into-wild.html

some v funny pics too. (there) judging from the reports 3/4 of the tour was unlistenable, Keenan had never drummed before (or something?) this obv. fits with the Jandek experience.

That "John Plays Drums" guy that seems to be playing on his albums through at least the early nineties = totally ineffable style.

Jandek live on WNYU on Wednesday with Tom Carter, Marcia Bassett, Karl Baur, and Pete Nolan.

Jandek playing tonite in Vienna!!!

With help from Eric Arn of Primordial Undermind.

a little bird told me that he's going to play in Baltimore with a very special lineup

any general timeframe ..? need to start looking at flights

I wish he'd release that Texas funk-jam show on CD.

At the w/end I bought the DVD of his solo acoustic London show from 2005 and was very happy to see my friend Fiona, who I went with, bright as day in the opening shot! Performance was in a church and we were sat in the balcony...alongside the camera, as it turned out. Don't imagine its anywhere near as compelling if you weren't there...production values are well on the lo-fi side. Anyone sat through any of the other Corwood DVDs?

Any sort of info you could divulge about a Baltimore show would be much appreciated.

Show over... Played for about 90 minutes.. About half instrumental, half 'songs'.

The dirgy stuff got a bit tiresome after a while, but when they got a groove going it was pretty grebt.

Here's some vids shot on my iphone. Lighting was pretty bad so don't expect to see much, sound came out surprisingly well....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bv790w1IM

here's some more....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffy-0duPPb8

another one to follow later....

JANDEK

Performing with:

Susan Alcorn (electric pedal steel)
Twig Harper (electronics)
Jason Willett (electronics)
Dan Breen (percussion)

Saturday, Nov. 14th @ the LOFt (Load of Fun Theater)
120 W. North Avenue
8 PM
$10 presale/ $12 at the door (online tickets will be available through Brown Paper Tickets)

There will also be a free event in the Gallery of Load of Fun before the show to coincide with the Second Saturday events in Station North. This will be announced shortly.

(Baltimore)

so, whose going to this? just found out that the AXEMEN are playing B-More tomorrow as well! seriously thinking about hopping a plane...

this was pretty rad tbh. noize Jandek.

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Jandek at Incubate

So -- Jandek is playing UC Irvine in January.

With Mike Watt on bass.

See you there.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=144087528975525

Tickets can be bought here:

http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/139412

See you all there too!

This thread needs to be linked here too:
JANDEK: OVERPOWERED BY FUNK

Is he going to recreate the madness of that one jazz funk show?

xp :)

the stars are falling i don't know what to do

UC Irvine show in two days! My preview story is up:

http://www.ocweekly.com/2011-01-06/music/jandek-bj-miller-mike-watt-acrobatics-everyday-uc-irvine/

Any pre-show FAP ahead of time? Otherwise we'll just see you there...

Still think it's brilliant that his first show in SoCal is at UCI!

Something's in the works! I'm still debating locations (the campus pub itself, the most logical spot, is closed on Saturdays).

Okay if anyone else would like in, we'll be meeting up here between 5:30 to 6:

http://www.steelheadbrewery.com/irvine.htm

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&q=steelhead+brewery+irvine&fb=1&gl=us&hq=steelhead+brewery&hnear=Irvine,+CA&cid=0,0,9536922179682985129&z=16&iwloc=A

Doors open for the show at 7:30.

great piece Ned. agree with Miller about the acoustic non rocking drums live performances being the most interesting.

Jandek has never released anything on any other label.

of course some 'Dekkie' is always going to nitpick, but he did release a track on a Finnish compilation. (it was an excerpt from his live performance in Helsiniki, which featured harp and piano, up til the point it started boring the harp player actually heh, or so i heard from reports)
(http://tisue.net/jandek/discog.html#0796)

and what about re-releases of his vinyl on Jackpot records?

Haha, true indeed about that comp appearance though I take that as the one-off (so far) it is. You're right about the rereleases but -- in an oversimplified way -- I was referring to new/original albums.

a cdr on some Scandinavian label doesn't count, i quite agree ;)

those vinyl re-releases though, Off-topic, i almost feel like making the argument that he shouldn't have done it/have allowed it. let the original vinyl be MYTHICAL. (which it already is, i know) but that's another story.

Ultimately to me it's about the music being available in some form. But that's me. (Anyway, thanks for the compliment!)

it's still amazing how this all happened!

i wonder why he made the decision and how much it changed his interior life? obv. his public life has changed greatly.

It is changed and yet he's still him, I figure. Am in the audience now, waiting.

Very good so far, no breaks in between songs, Watt and Miller keeping up a variety of rhythms, Jandek stalking the stage slowly.

I was thinking Pink Floyd 1970, Elvis Telecom figures _Red_ era King Crimson.

Anyway, here's my photos from the audience:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nedraggett/sets/72157625657770689/

I wanna read Jandek's tour rider.

Well there was a pizza that got delivered about half an hour before the show...

I was thinking Pink Floyd 1970, Elvis Telecom figures _Red_ era King Crimson.
well that sounds awesome

dude's not human

look at his posture i mean what the fuck

luv u jandek

Gotta say he has some pretty slick on-stage moves. Seriously; the way he'd sort of pivot around on his feet while playing, or finish a line and then glide/rotate away... For a guy who waited almost 30 years to start gigging, he's got some serious stage presence.

And I can say, in all honesty and with no sarcasm or irony whatsoever, that he played some amazing guitar at that show. For serious.

Great gig!

30 years practicing in front of the mirror

Gotta start somewhere!

A sort-of show review from me:

http://www.foxydigitalis.com/foxyd/?p=5822

great review ned! sounds like a cool show.

That sounds much better than the show I saw in NYC (where the backing band was Loren Connors, Chris Corsano and Matt Hecker, and Jandek played Korg synth all night).

Given that Connors is near the only comparison point I can think of to Jandek in terms of guitar I have to wonder if the latter figured 'hey, I can relax tonight and noodle a bit.'

No, it was worse than that; he was hunched over the Korg, reciting lyrics to a "song cycle" from a notebook. It's available on CD and/or DVD, but I don't recommend buying or listening to it. I came away really disappointed, especially given the firepower of that backing band. Would gladly have attended a show by them without him.

I can't believe I talked about guitar effects with Jandek (his pedal board so-to-speak was a Digitech RP155)

Gotta say he has some pretty slick on-stage moves. Seriously; the way he'd sort of pivot around on his feet while playing, or finish a line and then glide/rotate away... For a guy who waited almost 30 years to start gigging, he's got some serious stage presence.

And I can say, in all honesty and with no sarcasm or irony whatsoever, that he played some amazing guitar at that show. For serious.

^^^^^^^ OTM all the way

I got to chat with Watt afterward and he was kind of in awe of the whole performance. "big respect! he really brought it out of me" (in Wattspeak)

yeah he plays line 6 spider amps and godin guitars, obviously he doesn't have a clue about decent gear, as far as i'm concerned that's a pretty awful set up -but he seems to make it work.

also i wouldn't say deciding to play korg is corwood's best idea

although it's unlikely it'd be really good to see him play acoustic and alone live, just like the 0740 days

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5130/5343206659_624ed50e08.jpg

yeah he plays line 6 spider amps and godin guitars,

Actually he was playing through a Fender amp this time. He mentioned that he was using Line 6 but switched over.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5243/5343207367_f90917c2c9.jpg

^Awesome!

yeah, did you uhh talk to him?

Not crazy about the faux film grain effect, but a fine boot nonetheless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-_HO588p0

Moar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izMFIbqufYA&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaCit9DTXAc&feature=related

Also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYpAZj7nr_s

yeah, did you uhh talk to him?

Yes I did. He was pretty reticent until I asked him what effects box he was using on stage and then he got more talkative. Still pretty reserved though and somewhat bewildered by all the attention. Imagine Brad Dourif as an older and unerringly polite Texan gentleman (his Texan accent is pretty noticeable in person). If the Wikipedia entry is correct, he's 65 years old.

We tried to talk him into taking a picture with us but he wasn't going for it... "how will we know you were really here?" Jandek: "how would I know I was really here?"

lol, nice!

bj miller's drumming in that second video down sounds like big black's roland drum machine

We tried to talk him into taking a picture with us but he wasn't going for it... "how will we know you were really here?" Jandek: "how would I know I was really here?"

heh! :) thanks for sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kqfqx6wJpM

That's brilliant there, Elvis. Nicely done -- figured it would be tech talk that was the hook.

I also just want to say that I am amused I ended up at the head of a line where Henry Rollins was somewhere far behind me.

Another review from Randall Roberts:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/01/jandek-in-irvine-a-mystery-musician-makes-his-first-california-appearance.html

did i call the can comparison or did i call it? i called it.

Miller and Watt got into a groove that moved steadily and confidently; at times it suggested the Motorik rhythm of German krautrock -- Watt dove into a bassline referencing Can's "Father Cannot Yell" at one point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIJaYFotmAg

You called it indeed!

yeah he plays line 6 spider amps and godin guitars, obviously he doesn't have a clue about decent gear, as far as i'm concerned that's a pretty awful set up -but he seems to make it work

When I brought him to Vienna he asked for a Line 6 Spider but it proved impossible to find one for hire. So he just used a regular Fender amp on that occasion. Seemed happy enough with it though.

can't believe jandek is from texas and chooses to play in cali instead of his home state ;_;

hook 'em in 2011 jandek!!

he played the legendary funk jam afternoon gig in Houston though

plus he can only play where he gets offers, it's not a question of choosing

he played the legendary funk jam afternoon gig in Houston though
Just want to reiterate this.

When is that Houston gig coming out on Corwood??

Well, by my reckoning the gap between the gig and the CD release is running at about four years at the moment. They come out in strict chronological order so I wouldn't expect Houston to come out until 2013. Same goes for the Vienna show which is the one I'm really waiting for.

for some reason the thing of jandek using totally guitar center lame "pro" geir is kinda awesomely perverse to me.

yeah, like does he go into a guitar center in some texas strip mall, play a couple bars of "whole lotta love" and go "i'll take it!"?

seeing him tomorrow in easthampton. word on the street is he requested "a country band" to back him up. yeeeeeha!

how was this? who backed him? tell me tell me tell me.

ian if i am understanding you right there's this

Country & Western Jandek Was Unreal Tonight. The Image Of Him Jumping Up And Down And Playing His Harmonica...

jandek is going to be live on WFMU today! is this his first radio bcast? omg. http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/BT

oh no there have been quite a few.

he was on East Village Radio a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.eastvillageradio.com/content/content.php?id=3430

pretty great performance, i thought, with a nice harmonica ending

http://www.eastvillageradio.com/upload/images/Jandek440.jpg

cool...this one seems to be with a "a full acoustic/voice ensemble".

maybe the Boss inspired him and the Rep gathered a gospel choir, to chant about shepherds and flocks and what have you. we'll see :)

don't hear any choir, this sound pretty classic jandek voice & guitar

haha oops that a track from later on lol

yeah, set hasn't started yet... seems to be about to kick off.

sort of sounding like free jazz mazzy star currently

haha totally....some of the quieter parts remind me of ECM records type stuff but more random sounding

yeahhh, jandek garbarek. the man is playing piano i take it?

oh lol, he was playing drums.

jandek garbarek

^^haha display name alert!

hee hee. ok, now i'm going to listen to that Train album. What a world!

saw Jandek in Austin tonight with a 5 piece backing band -- clarinet, xylophone, viola, bass, and random percusson.... very droning, sleepy and zoned waaaayy out there style performance, i loved it and almost nodded off, it was so hypnotizing!

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Susan_Alcorn/Jandek_Live_at_ISSUE_Project_Room

http://vimeo.com/40774310

i am starting to think Jandek could be in the people who have figured out how to live thread

anybody else at the cafe oto show last night?

no guitar, he played electric keyboard all night with a dodgy electric piano preset. joined by john edwards and alex nielson who both stayed in rattling extended technique crescendo/diminuendo free improv mode. byron wallan on horns who kept sneaking in coltrane-esque phrases in between articulating jandek’s words with v descriptive playing (which i found quite distracting and a bit cheesy) right at the end wallan was blowing air through the horn and mutated it into a kind of jokey cackle. jandek closed his song book and that was it.

i’d guess about 1/3 of the crowd left during the show. nobody i was with enjoyed it at all. lots of chatter in the background from people who obv had no idea who jandek was / what to expect.

so jandek mostly stuck to the extremes of the keyboard, the real low notes and real high notes. pentatonic modes. his approach was often to execute an idea over a very long period of time, you’d get a pattern slowly crawling across the keyboard from the high notes to the low notes, very little harmony, just lots of twinkling keys, always avoiding repetition and logical motion- so no melody or cadences. spent a lot of time playing in F# pentatonic (all the black notes) so he could his swipe his hand up and down the keys while staying relatively consonant.

his vocal delivery/phrasing was remarkable. edwards/nielson were totally with him in that respect- the brief silences were great. although because his voice varies v little in mood/tonality I found it a bit jarring when they’d do their firey ~let’s get intense~ build-ups every time he said something ‘aggressive’ or w/e and kind of distracted from the jandekness

definitely enjoyed the evening. had me thinking a lot, never got bored. i think most people were disappointed with the lack of guitar. heard lots of grumbling around me. the electric piano thing was weird, because he’s such an intimate player and the fake electric piano is such a, uh, binary on/off type instrument, it made it less about the millisecond-millisecond inflections and accidental sounds and more about his phrasing, which while interesting, didn’t quite give off the same vibe as what you hear him do with a piano/guitar/chair/voice.

anyway, interesting night, glad I finally got to see him, i spent a *lot* of time with his music at one point in my life, find it fascinating.

he was stood next to us looking desperate to escape at the end. was gonna attempt conversation but he was hiding in his hat looking at the looking at the floor.

I was there. Really enjoyed it. Thought it was very 70's Miles. As for the leaving, bear in mind that Cafe Oto isn't the easiest place to get back from for a lot of people, so some people might have been forced to leave by reasons other than the music. I had to leave 90mins in, otherwise would've been a lengthy Night Bus trek home on a 'school night'.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdZRIt-CIAAUYJQ.jpg

whoa wait what

interview?!?!?

David Keenan interview I think, or at least as far as I could decipher via a Marc Masters post somewhere (but that would be a likely candidate).

And yes, apparently real.

aw, I was hoping Cosmo would get his first interview.

Anyone going to the Cafe Oto shows in February? No better way to spend Valentine's Day

If I lived in the UK I would perhaps. Cafe Oto sure gets a lot of good shows. If only teleportation was real.

can someone link to the source of that image??

interview w/Jandek about Loren Conners from June: http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/post/53438923538/full-transcript-of-our-interview-with-jandek

That's a great interview, just re-read it (though not sure if I read the full transcript before today).

very interesting, did not know about that. He has quite a way with words.

Yeah, I am psyched for that Wire interview. David Keenan can irk me sometimes, mostly just in his reviews at times, but his interviews are generally good to great.

I just finished reading a stolen pdf of England's Hidden Reverse (because Keenan refuses to put it out in PB), and I hate him even more now than before, he is consistently wrong in his quasi-record-reviews in that book.

Hah his reviews are really heavy-handed, and I completely stopped buying stuff according to his recommendation or taking his slams very seriously. I was pretty "disappointed" at his takedown of Lonnie Holley in a recent Wire. I mean, I get that he isn't for everybody, but Lonnie deserves a little more respect than he got, especially considering the fawning that some other "hippieish" music has gotten by him.

um, he is putting out a revised edition later this year

xp

he's been saying that for a decade, I'll believe it when I see it

believe, you of little faith

http://strangeattractor.co.uk/further/sap-summer-update/

This seems to be the most recently updated thread, so:

The Corwood Industries website is a real thing. You can now order Jandek CDs and DVDs (no vinyl) online. And not only does the website list both a phone number and an email address (someone call and post the resulting audio, please), but...Jandek takes Paypal.

That...is weird.

One of the members of Jandek's band at the Echo show speaks: http://dalenickey.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/corwood-goes-to-hollywood-jandek-live-at-the-echoplex-may-24th-2014-concert-review/

(TMP) When you told Corwood that you had no musical experience, it didn’t matter?

(KB) “I think that was their preference.”

(TMP): What do you do?

(KB) “I used to do web design, and now I’m project manager at a tech company.”

(TMP): As far as preparation, was there any rehearsal at all?

(KB): “No. I had anticipated there would be. We met at The Echo at 2:00 p.m. We waited a long time for the sound guys to get set up. Finally the sound guy went like, ‘do you guys want to try some of your instruments?’, At that point The Representative from Corwood said, ‘yeah, why not?’ Like it hadn’t been thought of before, But, because the sound guy suggested it, they’re like ‘OK, sure let’s do that’. So I picked up the electric violin and I just kinda started hacking away at that. And it sounded really rough. But that (sound-check) was basically the only thing we had other than a prepared set list which was not about songs, but just, ‘at this point you’ll work on this instrument, and at this point you’ll work on that one.’

(TMP): No keys or riffs or anything like that?

(KB) “No, not at all (laughs).”

.....

(KB): “Can I tell you something he said before the show that I will probably have with me for the rest of my life?”

(TMP): Absolutely.

(KB): “One thing the representative said to all of us was…‘there are no mistakes, if you think you made a mistake, go further into that mistake, and then it’s not a mistake.’

awesome.

jandek must be as old as the rolling stones now

I've seen him twice now and OK. It's cool hearing That Voice and That Guitar, but I was TKO'ed when The Representative got on the drums and started playing That Sound - one very large elephant trying to woozily tramp through a deserted cargo ship in a gale. So weird hearing it come out of a bog-standard indie rock club PA.

I was at the show documented on Manhattan Tuesday, and I didn't like it much at the time but I think I'd like to see him again.

‘there are no mistakes, if you think you made a mistake, go further into that mistake, and then it’s not a mistake.’

Another musician is known for saying something very much along these lines, but I can't recall who now... anyone able remind me? Sounds like an Oblique Strategy too.

Charlie Parker?

Jimmy Gilmer, of "Sugar Shack" fame.

I keep thinking Derek Bailey or Fred Frith, but apparently not. Maybe I'm just mis-remembering.

Isn't that kind of a paraphrase of Eno's "honor your mistake as hidden intention"?

I passed a marquee for the Star Theater in Portland, and…he’s playing tonight.