It's 9:30 A.M. where I am, so I must be listening to Usurper's Cryptobeast at top volume! I dig it. Great riffs! "Kill For Metal" must be a real crowd-pleaser live.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
Ummm..what else would they be?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
Shoutouts for High On Fire and, although I haven't heard their new one yet, Stinking Lizaveta.
― DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/new_releases.php?coming=yesIncluding confirmed front cover artwork.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
i second the high on fire love. i love the sound of it. and i wasn't a big fan of surrounded by thieves. i think albini is just getting better with age!
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Haibun (Begs2Differ), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
My own nomination for this thread is the new Daft Punk single. (And the High on Fire album, o' course.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
isn't he though? they don't call him the death-metal Jandek for nothing! (oh wait,i'm the only one who calls him that.)
and ned, try and scam an AMG copy of the upcoming katatonia black sessions comp. all cool album tracks and single b-sides from discouraged ones on and a live dvd!
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
Odd, since I had really modest expectations for it.
― George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
When Mommy is a Headbanger
DALLAS - They're housewives, workaholics, PTA members and ... rock stars?
Women fighting to shatter the stay-at-home-mom stereotype and rediscover their youthful voice are forming bands, such as Housewives on Prozac in suburban New York, Frump in Dallas and Placenta in Oakland, Calif.
These moms are rocking the house and the cradle, singing about breast-feeding, exhaustion and making kids do their chores.
"I feel like what we do is remind people about their passion and that sense of importance and that sense of vitality," said Joy Rose, a 47-year-old mother of four who founded Housewives on Prozac in 1997. "Life is really short, and it's important to live colorfully."
Mothers have struggled for identity and fulfillment for decades, growing more exasperated with their increasing career and child-rearing demands, said University of Michigan professor Susan Douglas, who co-authored the book "The Mommy Myth."
She said those feelings may explain the growing number of mom rock bands. (Rose estimated there are about 50 active mom bands across the country, with 20 of them having been formed in the last year.)
"In our cultural common sense, what could be more opposite from the icon of mom than a punk rocker?" Douglas said.
Suzie Riddle, who has three children aged 19, 12 and 6, started Frump in 2001 as a gag for her 40th birthday party. A punk rocker in her youth, then a librarian, Riddle hounded other mothers at her church and her daughters' school until she found three women willing to play along.
At first, they performed five songs, including "Suzie Is A Headbanger" by the Ramones and "We're Really Beat," a song Frump guitarist Frances Peterson wrote to the tune of "We've Got the Beat" by the Go-Go's.
"See the mothers driving down the street, see their makeup melting in the heat, straight from work, the pantyhose are tight, it's take-out tonight," the song begins.
Three years later, the band has grown to five, adding new members as others have moved away. Frump practices every Saturday night and performs about once a month at parties, churches and community events such as the Punky Mamas Christmas Bazaar in Dallas.
The band members even encouraged their daughters to get involved, and the girls formed their own band called Spawn and have played at two gigs with their moms.
"It is the best feeling in the world," said Frump lead guitarist Diane Harris, whose 11-year-old daughter Anna plays drums in Spawn.
Frump is still trying to forge an identity, teetering between being a novelty and a serious band, Riddle said. She'd like to add a second weekly practice and focus on cultivating a unique sound.
But any group that bills itself as an all-mom garage band is going to get a few chuckles, she conceded.
"I am really proud of this, and I'm proud of the attention that it's gotten us," she said. "It's kind of a silly idea, and a lot of people have taken notice."
At the Punky Mamas Bazaar, an audience of mostly middle-aged women and their children clapped and tapped their feet to Frump's music, even getting up to dance to "Twist and Shout." A few young couples on a Saturday evening date watched from the back of a half-full dance hall.
Julie Hougland came with her 6-year-old daughter, her 55-year-old mother and her 35-year-old sister. She said she was surprised by how much fun they had.
"How many venues are there where I can take my daughter and dance?" Hougland said.
Rose hopes the movement soon will catch on commercially as more people see mom bands in concert. Housewives on Prozac has recorded two CDs and a holiday CD single, which is available on Amazon.com.
Several mom bands will converge on New York City throughout May for the fourth annual Mamapalooza festival. The festival, founded by Rose, will feature at least five days of events, including a free outdoor concert and a poetry and jazz night.
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This having been said, the fragment of the song "Pick Up Your Socks" made me laugh. Chuck Eddy to thread. Fly me into NYC and I'll cover Mamapalooza and do a MommyMetal review. Placenta, jeezus. All the best jokes get overtaken by real-life. Too bad no one would know the meaning of "Miltown" anymore.
― George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
man, more jpt scare band - excellent. i have to pick up "past is prologue," i didn't even know that was out.
i really didn't like the new mastodon until i found myself walking around humming the riff to "iron claw." which compelled me to download it again. and buy it when i've got some cash.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 21 January 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
That'll do as a spurious segue into mentioning that Earl Shilton, who used to be in Bolt Thrower, has remixed Alter Ego's 'Rocker'. Which is a genius piece of lateral thinking. The mix itself I cannot comment on as yet
― DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 21 January 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)
-- DJ Mencap0)))
I merely pointed out that a 13 minute metal song about the Loch Ness Monster could only be brilliant. How could it possibly be bad? Even if it were a child banging on a plate for 13 minutes with a guitar solo (even a KK Downing guitar solo) over the top and Rob Halford going 'waaaaaaaaah! Hot rockin'', the fact remains that it would _still_ be a 13 minute metal song about the Loch Ness Monster, and therefore it would _still_ be brilliant.
But if you are right, if the impossible happens, and it turns out to be not brilliant, I promise you you will receive an apology from me sir.
― thee music mole, Saturday, 22 January 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 22 January 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
Enemy of God is great.
Right now I'm nuts over Behemoth's Demigod, which surprised me how catchy it is for a black metal album. "Conquer All" totally rips off Anthrax's "Be All End All", but in a good way.
Also, I can't get enough of the new Cursed album. They start out sounding kind of Converge-y, but then a really cool sludge influence starts to pop in, and the album winds up sounding like early Mastodon. It's the best Canadian metal album I've heard in a while (though I expect the new Strapping Young Lad album to top it in a month or so).
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 22 January 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
Agree about Demigod; my review should be running in the East Bay Express in the next week or so. That guy's vocals sound like a blast furnace.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
"Shitstorm" is pretty killer...that's the only new SYL track I've heard so far.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
Send a copy. Fast opinions guaranteed.
― George Smith, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
Samael's pretty much off on permanent tangent, but it's interesting. The new one is Rammstein + Egyptian music + the Dimmu Borgir black orchestra thing Samael invented. Pretty much hits the Satanic side of Soft Cell in a couple choice moments. Also remarkably mid-tempo -- some kind of Swiss timing thing.
Napalm Death's THE CODE IS RED...LONG LIVE THE CODE totally rages. Lots of simple hooky riffs at a faster speed than usual, it improves over the last two already good Napalm CDs. Not a bad Jello B. guest spot, either -- ie he does more than warble "yo yo yo" into the mic a couple times.
I also heard most of the new Hypocrisy over the weekend -- with Horgh of Immortal now on drums, it sounds like the shoegazer death metal of The Arrival landing over the tumult of Sons of Northern Darkness pt. II. Pretty powerful and vicious.
Even with the hiring of regional doom manager Joe Preston, can't work up the enthusiasm to listen to the new High on Fire. Well, there, I said it.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 29 January 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― ddb (ddb), Saturday, 29 January 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
I am intrigued, very deeply.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
But you would be.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)
Can't wait to hear this one. Their recent covers album was one of the more underrated CDs from last year.
I'm liking the High on Fire album a lot. Albini has Kensel's drumming sounding monstrous.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― thee music mole, Saturday, 29 January 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 30 January 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, the Mercenary's good, if a little samey, and it gets deeper and darker around "Sharpen the Edges." And shortly after that, there's this total crossover Bon Jovi/ Duran Duran sounding thing that I dug.
Samael seems VERY samey, though not always in a bad way.
― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 31 January 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)
― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 31 January 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
Hmmmphhh, I must have a differently mixed/mastered copy. You couldn't blow your speakers in the Sixties easily. Much bass was usually mastered -out- of the recordings with high pass filtering either when going to tape or on the mastering lathe.
People try to recreate this so much now that there are '60's presets' that hack the bass to psychedelic garage band and Japanese transistor radio levels in digital mastering software.
Does Blue Cheer's "Vincebus Eruptum" have much bass? I just recall it as being loud and screechy. My memories of speaker excursion bass start tuning in around Grand Funk "black album" and Cream Live.
― George Smith, Monday, 31 January 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 31 January 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
I think old time mastering fogeys had to be persuaded at gunpoint not to cut the bottom and balls off rock and roll records. They'd get a rash at the idea of the needle on the lathe cutting too big a groove and the pressings developing a skip.
― George Smith, Monday, 31 January 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 31 January 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
I'm really enjoying this one. Like Ian said, a cool combination of styles. Can't get enough of that bizarre vocal cadence by Vorph (especially in "Moongate")...makes Tom G. Warrior sound articulate in comparison. Is it a Swiss thing or something?
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)
Why didnt Billy Anderson do it? anyone know.
― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
Maybe a Swiss villager thing, but Samael are francophones and Tom G. speaks schwyzertütsch. They'd probably speak english to each other if they met on the ski lift.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
"...and of course Darkthrone"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6881422/
But last year I joyfully screamed "Cannibal Corpse!" in Sen. Joe Lieberman's face, so we'll just see how it goes.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
Some recommendations. A heavy metal album that is loud. And the drums, too.
I know if I were in a heavy metal band I'd rush to have the label work up this advertising copy: "The drums are GREAT! Boy, they're loud!" Now, for the songs...
You just know people drop everything and rush to the store when they hear the drums on a metal record are stupendous.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
I do. Drum sound is extremely important in metal. Look at St. Anger (just don't try to listen to it). A lot of death metal records (Vital Remains' Dechristianize is a good example) would be much better than they are if the drums didn't sound like practice pads.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
Well it looks like we're almost even, then.
Anyway, on the other thread someone pointed me at Aquarius for Lugubrum. I thank them, Aquarius Records had all I needed to know. Belgie death metal, big on carrots, beer and corncob pipes. It's a coin toss whether I send for the most recent CDs. Art looked good but should I wait for a newer one in 2005? Decisions.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
I don't have to bend over backwards. I really enjoy it! And the drums just "sound" really cool to me. And loud as hell! I listen to a lot of metal and hard rock and it's easy to notice when something jumps out at you like that. I'd love to hear what Albini could do with someone like Amon Amarth.
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)
and there is an easy explanation for why i say it's so loud: I have to turn the volume up a lot higher on the new Immolation and the new Blood Red Throne to make them as loud as I like loud music to be. I don't have to turn up the volume on the new High On Fire nearly as much to make it as earsplittingly loud . IN FACT, twice I actually had to turn it down because, like I said before, I thought I might break my speakers. Some Cds are louder then other CDs.
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
I'm for that. Last time out, the Vatican and pedophiles. Lynndie is so equally worthy of anti-iconography, I had to put her photo in "Iraq 'N' Roll." I'm surprised there isn't already a tribute record revolving around her. It would be a fine curio, something with which to menace friends who already think you are somewhat icky.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)
Brick wall limiting and/or extreme compression tricks. Opinions differ, often explosively, on whether it makes things better than actually just leaning over and giving the volume nob a twist.
I've gotten so used to new CDs blaring at me straight out of the folder that I set the level back about half from the average ten years ago.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
HoF are different, not all of it a consequence of Steve Albini's knob job. They do sound a lot cleaner because the amps are vintage circuits and the EQ hits the heavy guitar sweet spot -- good mid presence. That said, there are lots of Seventies-style hard rock records that sound clearer. Matter of taste, I suppose.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
Was going to start a thread but to obscure and old. Is new to me __ I thought I remembered most of it but didn't: Neil Merryweather and the Space Rangers. Bought at a CD store's going out of business sale in Pasadena yesterday. Only printed in Deutschland!
Hair band stripper metal a little before stripper metal and science-fiction hard rock. "Kryptonite!" Of course, it's no Judas Priest but for a lazy afternoon, pretty good. Neil backed up Lita Ford when no one else thought she was so hot, I think.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
In other matters, RPG reissued on Arclight. Supposed to be recommended by Lamb of God or others who wear their T-shirts. I wouldn't have picked LoG dudes for liking RPG, perhaps it is because they invite them to steak barbecues or something, a matey thing. RPG play the same two or three riffs real fast, over and over, to a mostly rock and roll feel. A good idea capitalized on with good execution! Often there are actual hooks and songs, like on something called "Crash Bam Boom," "Early '72" or "20 Year Old Idiot." Comes with a DVD that will remind you of the BunnyBrains home movie DVD.
There was something else on Arclight last year that I liked, too. A Texas trio from the drug jungles of Colombia or something playing Link Wray riffage and homages to Johnny Winter And and Nitzinger. But I can't remember their name.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
A Forum performance by ... Lamb of God has been canceled after the venues' owners, the Faithful Central Bible Church, learned that the band formerly went by the name Burn the Priest.
The April 9 show would have been a stop on the band's 43-city tour as one of several supporting acts for Slipknot, the cartoonish band that performs in masks and has songs such as "Pulse of the Maggots" and "Heretic Anthem." As of Wednesday, Slipknot and its Subliminal Verses tour...will go on as scheduled.
Lamb of God's members railed against their exclusion Wednesday. Drummer Chris Adler said in a statement, "The word from the powers that be is that Lamb of God is not the wholesome family fun that the good people of LA deserve."
Marc Little, CEO for the church's business dealings, said that the operation walks a difficult line as a part-time player in the concert business.
"This is a building that is owned by the church, and we are sensitive to our congregation and to our obvious religious beliefs. At the same time, we have to balance that with being a business. This is a band that was formerly known as Burn the Priest, so it's a fair assumption that some of the stuff they are signing may be antithetical to our beliefs."
The Forum has pulled in some major acts in recent years, among them ...Metallica and Linkin Park, whose music might give a pastor pause. But Lamb of God's former name was apparently too religiously hostile to accept.
"The situation in LA can only be described as ridiculous," Adler said. "It's already been a huge waste of energy [bummer] trying to turn this around. The powers that be aren't interested in budging -- or doing their research, apparently [Adler does not clarify why "researching" Lamb of God is germane] -- ad we've never been a band to placate anyone to get our way, smooth things over or make anyone feel better."
[One could also make the case that a name evolution from Burn the Priest to Lamb of God renders it impossible for you to argue convincingly about principles.]
Burn the Priest formed in 1990 at [some university] and changed their stage name to Lamb of God soon after they released their self-titled album. Their follow-up album, "New American Gospel," was released in 2000. It included dark, thrashing songs with titles like "In the Absence of the Sacred" and "The Subtle Arts of Murder and Persuasion."
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Actually, if I were a Lamb of God publicist I'd be thrilled. Doing LA is easy but you can neve plan for the gift of a painless public slapdown based on religiosity.
― George Smith, Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Friday, 4 February 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
The 69 Tribe 12" single -- originally on Feralette in '84 or something, never seen in most stores -- is discovered on eMusic. "Bikers," a cover of a then unrecorded original by the Neighborhood Texture Jam, easily fits on the first Godz LP, maybe next to "Under the Table." Over the top biker-metal probably done by not-bikers, and I oughtta know. "Doing chicks! Doin' 'ludes! Fuck those chicks and their dudes!" Bikers hangin' out in the bottom of the canyon singin' 'Born to be Wild.' Said to have a Stooges "Raw Power"-like attack, an assessment with which I rarely agree. Except sort of this time -- "Raw Power" if it had been recorded as a well-balanced metal record and with a guitarist who sounded more like an arena-rockstar than James Williamson.
Neighborhood Texture Jam's "Funeral Mountain" also available. Never saw it anywhere except reviewed in Rolling Stone by Robert Palmer who gave it a rave but completely missed the boat on what it sounded like.Twin guitar hard rock and metal, very classical in orientation, but with a nuts vocalist prone to ranting critically about the south and whatever else was bugging him at the time, like his girlfriend, to whom he professes his "love" which is like a "borax factory" across the "alkaline plain." Some heavy boogie, not suvvern rock-sounding, spazzed-out heavy. Perhaps a Terry Knight Grand Funk-like sound if they had recorded the live "black album" properly and without going for the staticky transistor radio sound. Contains a version of "Bikers" which isn't real similar to 69 Tribe's rendition but equally jacked up.
And the Cherry Red 12" single. Two heavy glam rock slices. Never heard of them but were supposed to be from NYC.
― George Smith, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
I know 69 Tribe got airplay at college radio for that single. Yet one can scarcely find a trace of them in the electronic record.
― George Smith, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
really, who "bikers" kinda sounds like to me, by the way, is the angry samoans! (or at least stevie stiletto and the switchblades or somebody like that.)
― chuck, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
So, does anybody else think Isis, Mastodon and Lamb of God were all competing for the same bloc of voters in Pazz 'n' Jop? (Hip-hop tokenism - roundly scorned year after year; metal tokenism - alive and well and A-OK.)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)
I do hear an Angry Samoans "Inside My Brain" thing. Maybe that's another reason why I like it so much.
My thinking is the B-side of 69 Tribe was a studio track laying around that was made for a local movie or sumpin' and they needed filler. Really, the Feralette singles are a mystery to me. I should make you a CD copy of some of that stuff, particularly Cherry Red.How did an allegedly NYC-based all girl heavy glam band wind up on a primarily southern boutique label as a single offering?
― George Smith, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)
Punget Stench's "Ampeuty" comes with arty CD pamphlet containing photos and drawings of radically photoshopped of beautiful women in scanty underwear, often shot bottoms up, all with legs, arms, hands and feet missing in some way. Their is truth in their advertising.
― George Smith, Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
Lamb of God got virtually no support this year -- it only showed up on 4 ballots and placed at #362. By my count, at least 9 metal/extreme records placed higher, so that record was a total non-factor.
I think the only records that showed up on 5 or more ballots were:
Mastodon (#60) 218 pts/ 21 ballots Comets on Fire (#63) 203 pts/ 20 ballotsIsis (#126) 103 pts/ 12 ballots Converge (#156) 86 pts/ 7 ballots Wolf Eyes (#231) 61 pts/ 8 ballots
Converge actually generated the most enthusiastic support from its voters (or, rather, had the highest points/ballot average). And with Isis and Mastodon, it was pretty much a case of metal people voting for their own with some additional votes from folks like Greg Kot (who always places Isis in his top-10s at the Chicago Tribune) and Jonathan Cohen. Also, half of the people who voted for Isis also voted for Mastodon, so the whole idea of tokenism is pretty moot. As you alluded to, Phil, it's just that the voting bloc is very small.
― ng, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
>From: Pieter [mailto:Pieter@platenworm.nl]Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:56 PMTo: editor@villagevoice.comSubject: LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Hi, I'm collecting all the records of Chuck Eddy's Stairway To Hell book. And I have a question for Chuck Eddy. Can you help me to the music of some impossible to find records? I'm almost there. Just missing about 8 records of which 3 are cassettes. It would be great if you can help with some of these. Hope to hear from you. Cheers, Pieter
― chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 14 February 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 14 February 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)
As for Judas Priest, I'm not sold on it yet. 'Revolution' really, really turned me off. Chorus (vis. the whole song) sounds like T-Rex, which is just too weird. It's so berloody repetitive I can't get past being annoyed by it.
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 February 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
(from M'et al-M'aniacs July 2005)
BRODEQUINMETHODS OF EXECUTIONUNMATCHED BRUTALITY RECORDS Named modestly after an archaic type of half-boot, this Tennessee grind trio on its third outing kicks up a continuous 30-minute cloud of pollution with continuous blast beats, braying stabbed pig vocals, and dissonant disorienting guitars. By this point in the story of extreme music, fucked-up gore-grind is such a formula that the intensity has faded, but Brodequin distinguishes itself with constant intensity and a cool foggy production perforated by screeching guitar squeals and the occasional drum thunk. The Brodequin body falls far from the antiseptic side of the grindcore operating table, rolling away from the sharp edge of the scalpel towards the dark corner where the bloodstains and the rusty nails lay.Their execution may be flawless, but the CD seems permeated with filth – a messy psychedelic side that extreme Southern bands have explored from F.U.C.T. to Soilent Green. Even the bonus video for the bizarrely catchy “Slaves to the Pyre” is hypnotic, and there’s nothing to see but two bald guys and a dude with a baggy neck getting sweaty in a room with trash bags taped to the walls. The mind-altering title track, the final song on the album, weighs in at seven minutes of splashing sound effects and slowed vocals over a bottom sea of death metal double bass drumming. After mastering the blasting core qualities of their sonic exhumation, maybe Brodequin can up the dose next time and point the way towards more of these fresh mental hazards. Bands like Isis and Neurosis could use the unsettling scare of something like this.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
>>Hi Chuck, Thanks for getting back to me. Well it started as a joke. I thought your book was so funny and since I'm always fighting with myself not to become a terrible record collector but most of the times I can't help myself. Your book sounded like a great idea to collect while keeping it fun. But as always those things go somewhere you wanna finnish it and I'm at that stage right now. The stuff I'm missing is (no, not the Rocket from The Tombs because I have a great bootleg from about 10 years ago that has all the stuff that was also on the tape, I think):241 Destiny, Dick And The Highway Kings Brutality Destination 375 Goddo Goddo Fatcat I'll probably find this some where 447 Gone Gone II - But Never Too Gone SST I'll probably find this also some where 289 Half-Life Half-Life Quadruped Cassette 182 Human Zoo Human Zoo Hospital 272 Left Its The World Bona Fide 469 Motorhome Double Live...Bozo! Soso Cassette 411 V/a All Guitars Tellus Cassette
It would be great if you can help me with some of these because then I can finally listen to your book one by one. And that's gonna be something else. Cheers, Pieter
― chuck, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)
I remember I asked you Chuck a long time ago if you still had that Motorhome thing. I asked Phil Durr once and he said he'd try to get me a copy but I never saw him again. Maybe Mike Rubin has one??
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)
I've never seen any remnants of The Left on the Net. They were on a Bona Fide Records, a Pennsy indie. I've asked around about it in the past and Bona Fide is apparently a curse word in collector circles because it went out of business owing people records and money. But isn't that how everyone goes out of business?
― George Smith, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)
The album's considerably better, for the most part..."Hellrider" and "Worth Fighting For" are the best songs they've done in a very long time. That said, "Lochness" is the worst song thay've done in a very long time.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)
http://williamweber.com/HumanZoo.html
http://williamweber.com/WGWDisco.html
― George Smith, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
It's also a dead ringer for "Pounding Metal," Exciter anthem circa 1983.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
Sorry for late reply: Conspiracyrecords.
― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
"But when I come to Terre Haute, I actually have a bunch of military and law enforcement specialists that, whenever I'm in that area, I shoot machine guns [with]. So that's why my performances are a little more lively. I think the more machine guns you shoot before the concert, the better your music."
― George Smith, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0507,eddy,61067,22.html
― chuck, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)
― chuck, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)
And whatever happened to 16? Did anyone like them? I have some pretty roasted-sounding things from "Scott Case," "Blaze of Incompetence" and "Drop Out." Let me guess: They were considered mediocre derivative swine and didn't network enough to sustain.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
I have both Gones (assuming they stopped there?) but theyve sorta been on loan to a friend for the the past 13 years along with a whole bunch of 2nd-rate SST. Not *bad* stuff actually, and NOT ONE BIT like the awful DC3. Quite a funky power trio, who really play well together as a unit, but the material is just not all that memorable and its not quite a jagged as I (for one) would like. But hey, whatever lights yer pipe...
― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)
scandinavianmetal.info alert to a new download mp3 track [Murky Waters] from Denmark's Saturnus: New Saturnus track!
Danish melodic doomsters Saturnus have made a track from the upcoming available to download at their site.The song is called "Murky Waters" and may be downloaded from this link.
I found this song to be really atmospheric and beautiful, finally some new stuff from this band.Saturnus last release was in 1999.
Saturnus are aiming to record the album with producer Flemming Rasmussen [ex Metallica producer] and are currently looking for the right label deal.
Saturnus have been compared to Denmark's answer to My Dying Bride, this new track also has that sublime churning atmospheric guitar sound of Katatonia or Opeth. Massive arcs of stretched out glacial guitar work, this A + material.
Official website: Saturnus
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
― don, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)
Kind of similar to the Times review of one of their shows a year or two ago. Relapse sent it around in the press pack.
"...glass ships of fear, marauder's path."
"...Deity's crotch, scary crag..."
Too easy a punching bag.
I've been compiling a listener's guide to stoner rock and while there's a lot of sub-mediocre bands in the genre, there are also quite a few acts with LPs that were better than anything HoF has done.
Southern biker rock-wise, I was really suprised by Dixie Witch. This isn't new but there are two simply fine numbers/performances on their first album. "Into the Sun" and a cover of the James Gang's "The Bomber" in its entirety. It really invokes the imagery of the "the closet queen" and the leather jacket guys in shades looking out over the Z-bars.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, the all "white" album with the gold-embossed figure is the one I liked. Ron Goedert! He was ortho-gone-al. True story: The White Witch reissue would have been my first review in the Voice a few years ago, except I -lost- it. I had tossed something off and sent it to Chuck. And he wanted to run it but had misplaced his copy, too, and I could no longer find mine. Gone is a mass erasure. Next!
I'd love to see figures on how many CDs of Frump or the Housewives on Prozac sell. It started in the Wall Street Journal, was identikit copied by AP -- which didn't do as good a job -- and is winding up in all the venues where you -know- the readers or listeners just view it as a man-bites-dog thing or novelty.
Now I liked the Frump MP3's -- even truncated as they are, boo [!] --but the value of it as placed by the "mommies who headbang" stories for people who'd never be caught dead listening to hard or heavy rock is just irritating beyond a certain and very low point of exposure. You can just imagine bands like Evil Beaver, AC/D-She or Cheap Chick saying to themselves, "Why can't we ever have a slice of this pie?" Or the hundreds, maybe thousands, of other women playing in rock bands who now have kids. [The Angry Amputees!]
Not that it matter much in the long run. I can't imagine a recommendation as good stuff in the Wall Street Journal gets 'em running to the record stores or clamoring on-line for more.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)
Yep, that'd be "Spiritual Greeting" which also had strong Christian overtones. Also on Capricorn, certified ticket into the heart of the south. Avoid the self-titled album.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Fozzy's 'All That Remains."
― George Smith, Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― mattypoo, Monday, 28 February 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)
http://dev.villagevoice.com/music/0511,eddy,62065,22.html
other recent metal (and/or metallish I've been liking of late:
ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE Born to Be Wild in the U.S.A. reissueAMARAN Pristine in Bondgae AT WAR WITH SELF Torn Between Dimensions CALLISTO True Nature Unfolds DARK TRANQUILITY Character FRANTIC BLEEP The Sense Apparatus HUMAN ZOO Zoophilia reissueMERCENARY Eleven Dreams NOVEMBERS DOOM The Pale Haunt Departure PLACE OF SKULLS Place of Skulls EPRISING MOON They Are As Us SEARING MEADOW Corroding From the Inside THE SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES Origin, Vol. 1 SUBARACHNOID SPACE The Red Veil WOLF EYES Fuck Pete Larsen reissueYYRKOON Occult Medicine
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
Ugh that damn dual CD is a bitch. CD side only plays on some CD players, DVD side so far plays on nothing.
― moley, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
YYRKOON Occult Medicine LOVE for Cirith Ungol fans take note of Moorcook confluence.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)
Husband returned his in disgust because it was so tempermental. Got the regular version instead. It's growing on me a lot, I hated "Revolution" but I like "Angel of Death" and "Locness"
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)
The special two-disc version of the album is pretty snazzy. The DVD's excellent, though I still wish it had the full concert like what was originally promised past fall.
The new Strapping Young Lad album is loads of goofy fun. Phenomenal production.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)
Much more worthy but NOT if you're a rigid metal purist:
Eyeball Skeleton's #1 == fine Seventies-derived hard rock and boogie with nine year-old kids singing the songs. Not really cute, I thought I would hate this, but it conveys honest raunch. Even better, it furnishes the ridiculous element in heavy rolling hard rock while still focused on songs and grooving beats.
― George Smith, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)
― moley, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)
It's faster than Nothing, but whereas that album lumbered along menacingly (I loved those long, drawn-out notes), and the I EP combined speed and sludge brilliantly, Catch 33 merely sleepwalks, never wavering from the same tempo. It's like a Porsche 911 in neutral...it's good and all, but kind of a waste.
I guess I'd give it a mildly disappointed thumbs-up. After the I EP, I was hoping for so much more.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)
seconded. i'm still trying to hear the alleged shoegaziness.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
Cool... but where exactly is yer blog?
New Jesu has some great moments, but on the whole is a bit interminable. And I've said this before, but it sounds a lot like Codeine in places.
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 17 March 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
Oh shit, you saw me coming didn't you?
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
I was noticing that. There a band called the Grey Mouser yet?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
Not much chance either, I think, of Jherek Carnelian showing up as a band name.
― George Smith, Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
Jul. 15 - Boston, MA - Tweeter Center Jul. 17 - Hartford, CT - Meadows Jul. 19 - Camden, NJ - Tweeter Waterfront Jul. 21 - Buffalo, NY - Darien Lakes Jul. 23 - Pittsburgh, PA - Post Gazette Jul. 24 - Washington, DC - Nissan Jul. 26 - New York, NY - PNC Jul. 30 - Chicago, IL - Tweeter Center Jul. 31 - Indianapolis, IN - Verizon Wireless Music Center Aug. 02 - Columbus, OH - Germain Amphitheatre Aug. 04 - Detroit, MI - DTE Energy Music Theatre Aug. 06 - East Troy, WI - Alpine Valley Aug. 07 - Minneapolis, MN - Floatrite Park Aug. 11 - Seattle, WA - White River Aug. 13 - San Francisco, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre Aug. 14 - Sacramento, CA - Sleep Train Aug. 16 - Salt Lake City, UT - USANA Pavilion Aug. 18 - Phoenix, AZ - Cricket Aug. 20 - Los Angeles, CA - Hyundai Pavilion at Glen Helen Aug. 23 - Albuquerque, NM - Journal Pavilion Aug. 25 - Dallas, TX - Smirnoff Aug. 27 - Houston, TX - Cynthia J. Woods Pavilion Aug. 28 - San Antonio, TX - Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre Aug. 31 - Nashville, TN - Starwood Amphitheatre Sep. 02 - Charlotte, NC - Verizon Sep. 04 - West Palm Beach - Sound Advice
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 March 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)
Not only that, but a Dance of Death tour double live album, and Part Two of the History of Iron Maiden dvd deries, which will include the long-awaited dvd debut of Live After Death, both due out this fall.
The Volume One dvd is absolutely phenomenal. They've raised the bar as far as dvd retrospectives go...the live footage is unreal, and the documentary is incredibly well-made, rounding up practically every single person who played in the band (and there were a lot).
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 18 March 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)
ta da:
http://villagevoice.com/music/0512,eddy,62289,22.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
Keep in mind you're listening for the sound of a commercial breakthrough by a long-laboring visionary band. This is love thy neighbor pedestrian love, not screwing on a pile of discarded office furniture on spring street love.
??? Isa (and M83) look longer at more shoes than anything in 10 years, donnit?
I wish Sharon paid At the Gates to reform and ditched a half-dozen of the other preposition metallers on that bill. Ozzfest looks puny by last year's mammoth standards, especially considering you can fly to Europe for the price of 5 beers and a BLS vest and catch Inferno Fest or Party*San or something.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Neil Kulkarni, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 April 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 25 April 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 14 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 14 May 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 14 May 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)
Yrkoon vs. Zip Coon. Discuss, where we are there's daggers in men's smiles.
I enjoyed a couple songs from Crash Kelly's glammy "Penny Pills" tonight but no one here would probably like them because they don't shit enough masonry nails.
Instead you'll want to listen to Collapsar. Loo-siana death math metal CD with no vocals and where you can't tell where one song leaves off and another begins. (Dysrythmia fans will defecate in their undertrousers. How this didn't wind up on Relapse is totally beyond me, much like the new Nile CD.) ) Or you could really get into the Isis double CD remix by people with names like "Hemorrhoid." Which, of course, is something to be liked because it's like receiving a very fancy layer cake in the mail. Fone up Girlie and ask for a copy because it's a led pipe cinch absolutely no one will pay cash money for it. And they are all fools!!!!
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)
― Nick Fury of the Howling Commandos, Sunday, 15 May 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)
Beats the shit out of Yyrkoon, YOB, Zip Coon, your neighbor's death metal band, the Ozzy box, of the same magnitude as "Family Jewels."
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)
TS: The New Kylesa -vs- The New Transistor Transistor -vs- The New Raging Speedhorn
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 15 May 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)
The new Nile is on Relapse, according to Nile & Relapse - whatcha mean?
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Sunday, 15 May 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
It's on the Relapse publicist's micro-indie label. I tried playing it once, but I got the new Pelican the same day, so it had no chance.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 15 May 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Sunday, 15 May 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
Yyrkoon sound like background music by sad monsters to me -- as much beauty as gratuitous ugliness in the grrrr and blur. They don't rock but I don't mind. Music to read the paper or wash dishes to. Had no use whatsoever for that new Nile or those Isis mixes or (sorry, Scott) Kylsea, though.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 May 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
Whoa, they're still going?
I talked briefly about Nile on their separate thread -- the new one is mostly *shrug* aside from quick ambient bits.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)
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It's bugging me that I can't think of the name of those no-riff/no-swing/no-punchline Bad Company-wannabe Canuck (Toronto, I think) dumbasses I refer to above, though. Miccio started a thread about them here a couple months ago. He didn't like them, either. They may even be a hit above the border. Guess it's no surprise they're forgetttable, however.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Thor's rock opera was called Beastwomen From The Center Of The Earth. It's based on/tied in with a comic book, too. It doesn't live up to its title, though. The music is kinda weak and cheesy. The new album (Thor Against The World, on Smog Veil) is much, much better.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
>Not sure whether *Car Wash* by the Howling Diablos (from Detroit, apparently Kid Rock pals whose previous album struck me as too stodgy or minstrely or something) belongs on this thread or the metal thread, but there is no badass early-ZZ/John Lee boogie thread, so I will plug it here regardless. Title track is the best song about working at the car wash since the one by Rose Royce. My other two favorite tracks so far are "Mean Little Town" and, bizarrely, "Elvis Lives." I wish their singer had a smidgen more personality in his voice, but given the guitarist and drummer, I can live with it.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 15 May 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
Crash Kelly: First song, "Penny Pills" and the cover of "ELO Kiddies" which is done fine even though the guy has no voice. They slaughter "Since You've Been Gone," which does fall into the category of -good choice but they still had no business doing it-. The Sirens, of course, grease everything on the Crash Kelly disc, easy.
Thor rocked at The Knitting Factory in Hollywood. I've still yet to be able to sit through a showing of "Murder at the Presidio" with Lou Diamond Phillips on USA Network, though, to see where "Glimmer" fits in. Thor bent a steel pry bar with his teeth to one of the songs. More heavy metal bands should bend pry bars with their teeth, I think.If they fail, they can't make a record for a year. That'd be the rule.
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
Danko Jones.
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
Ah-ha-ha. Ratzsinger is teh pope. That's as good as the one about teaching your neighbor to plant tulips. After a week you'll have him planting tulips on your cock.
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 15 May 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 15 May 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
The coming months hold (for me) anticipated new discs from Dream Theater and Opeth, and hopefully Queensryche will finish and release the sequel to Operation:Mindcrime. New Children of Bodom would be nice too, not the EP they just put out, which btw is worth getting.
― necrothorn, Sunday, 15 May 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
...I was pretty sure I wasn't going to off myself or kill Mom or Dad," he said...
...It's the way the information gets conveyed and used that's the key," he said...
A horse is a horse, of course, of course, unless it's a talking horse, of course. Have you ever heard of a talking horse? Talk to Mr. Ed! Mr. Ed conveyed information to Wilbur and that was the key, you see.
...that of Zell Kravinsky, a Pennsylvania philanthropist who donated one of his kidneys to a stranger, enacting the exhortation "give till it hurts" in a very literal way...
I heard this was a script in production by Rob Zombie.
"a glue-sniffer's apotheosis of Burke's sublime"
Which Nile should use for a song title on its next CD. Or something from Goethe, like "You provide me with the fatal implements, precious Lotte."
― George Smith, Sunday, 15 May 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 16 May 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
Agreed, I just heard the album today myself. I focused more on the music and was rewarded.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Monday, 16 May 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)
― don, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)
Don't necessarily disagree with this, but in that case maybe we should also take Thor to task for making all his lyrics sound like something a junior high school kid in midwestern suburbia would have yelled along to in 1972. (Though he's much better singer than the Diablo howler, so yeah, maybe he deserves slack cut. I could live without his biceps, though.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
Always worked for Dave Wyndorf.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
Proof!
"Gonna have a hard, hard time getting rid of my love for you. [Backup singers behind the phrase: "Gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna, gonna."] Gonna have a real hard time getting rid of my heart."
And on another:
"Girl, I wouldn't give you away for free." What a compliment!! And he's being sincere!
― George Smith, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Thursday, 19 May 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
(0 stars)
"The cover features the muscle-bound singer fighting off attack dogs. Listeners my be excused from hoping he loses. Unlistenable."
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 21 May 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
Early albums on SST are underrated. I'd say the 90s albums are more consistent but each of the early albums have 4 or 5 gems on them.
― Rock Bastard, Saturday, 21 May 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 21 May 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― don, Saturday, 21 May 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)
Ha-ha. Dave Marsh, when it comes to hard rock not even as twice-a-day reliable as a busted watch.
http://www.thorcentral.com/mp_redesign/html/discography.html
Note photos of "Keep the Dogs Away." Thor's not fighting off attack dogs, he's restraining them. But I'm not entirely sour on the idea of not letting reality get in the way of a good one-liner.
― George Smith, Saturday, 21 May 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
Hmmm......Well, in my 1987 4000 word *Voice* SST roundup (where my other two favorite bands were Dinosaur and Blind Idiot God!), I compared *Even If and Especially When* to the Seeds, Love, and Amboy Dukes. Which may well have been completely full of baloney, but the '90s stuff on this new comp sure sounds a lot more proto-Creed than Seeds/Love/Dukes to me. They used way less organ (Farfisa or whatever) as they got heavier, right? They also seemed to have turned a lot less graceful over the years. But maybe I'm wrong.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 21 May 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
Now all that's left is for them to cover Mick Ronson's "greatest non-hits," maybe "Angel No. 9," which sounded like Def Leppard were -going- to sound like.
― George Smith, Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
xp
― xhuxk, Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Saturday, 21 May 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
My better half tells me Mark Lanegan sounds more proto-Josh Homme than proto-Scott Strap (or however you spell his name) on that Screaming Trees CD. Probably true, but I still don't' like it much. God I hate grunge music. Though I'd forgotten, when I'd written above that I can't stand his voice, that he is some kind of "intensely emotional alt-country hero" or something now. Which explains a lot.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 21 May 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
Yes. Was probably a better album than "Play Don't Worry" and a lot better than "Slaughter."
Speaking of grunge, anyone remember The Fluid? Added geeks playing sub-Stooges flavoring to the basic formula. Was there anyone Sub Pop didn't publish that was grunge/sub-Stooges? And what happened to Tad? Wasn't Tad going to be the next god at some point?
Save Marsh-ism: Tad -- Someone who thought Leatherface from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre would have been great in a sludge metal band. If you bought it you were on the hook for ten dollars.
― George Smith, Saturday, 21 May 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)
Murky sounding mix adds to the oomph. Put them in leather jackets and they look like the Hell's Angels, Ventura chapter. Better album than the Boyzzz "Too Wild to Tame," a song they could have also covered.
― George Smith, Saturday, 21 May 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)
Saw the Fluid, Steelpole Bathtub, and Mudhoney on the same bill one night in Trenton, 1989 or so. They were opening for GWAR. (Where they all belonged, culturally speaking, I believed then and still do.)
Saw Tad at the same club, same year, opening for Primus. For at least the length of the Salt Lick EP, Tad was a god.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 22 May 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)
"Rocker Ron Keel, the ex-lead singer for Black Sabbath, has teamed up with the Bullet Boys's ex-lead singer Charlie Wayne to form one of the newest and most exciting country duo acts to come out of Nasvhille in a long time.....info: www.keelandwayne.com"
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 May 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
From the BS page:Ron KeelStarted in Band: Summer 1984 Left Band: A short while later Album appearances: None
Heck, it does sound better than Ron Keel, the ex-lead singer for Keel.
Iron Horse was his country band.
― George Smith, Monday, 23 May 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 27 May 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 27 May 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Saturday, 28 May 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Saturday, 28 May 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0523,dozen,64668,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 June 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
So any other NYers going to the Hate Eternal/Krisiun/Incantation/two other bands show at BB King's on the 26th?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 4 June 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 4 June 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
i'm getting the new ulver in the mail. i can't wait! they iz my wacky heroes.
stuff i want to hear: that new buzzov-en comp. that new nihilist demo comp. that new vio-lence reissue. new orthrelm. new infidel?/castro!. um, there is probably more.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 4 June 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
stuff i want to hear: that new buzzov-en comp. that new nihilist demo comp. that new vio-lence reissue.
i'm not in the know and wound up buying a cheap cd-r bootleg of the nihilist demo stuff (which actually has more tracks than the official release), it's damn nice to hear. only shreds remain was constantly in my tapedeck back then.
which vio-lence album's being reissued? please say eternal nightmare!
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 4 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
For some reason, I've found it hard to get into the new Immolation. The new Nile album is the best death metal album I've heard in a long while, and the production is so superb, the Immolation album sounds too muddy in comparison.
The new Darkest Hour is pretty decent, too, and is helped greatly by Devin Townsend's production. Above average metalcore.
I'm really looking forward to hearing Primordial's The Gathering Wilderness...the one track I've heard (I think it's the first one) is pretty great, epic doom mixed with some Celtic influences.
Oh, and the new Leng Tch'e album is a riot.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 4 June 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
I'm very interested to hear the new Darkest Hour.
Just got the new As I Lay Dying in the mail. Haven't decided whether I'm going to listen to it anytime soon, though, because I got the new Coldplay today, too, and the massive Cafe Tacuba live box (three CDs and a DVD for $18.97 plus tax).
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 4 June 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
the primordial is great, a.! really deep, dark, and epic. the first track IS my fave too.
"which vio-lence album's being reissued? please say eternal nightmare!"
you are correct! megaforce is putting it out.
i got an e-mail about combat records putting out old and new stuff. i wonder what they are gonna reissue first? i should google for info. (i didn't actually read the e-mail.)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
There are no immediate plans to re-issue previously out-of-print [Combat] catalogue titles, the joint venture will focus entirely on new releases.
Dud.
No "Let Them Eat Metal" and "Live Rods" by The Rods!
― George Smith, Saturday, 4 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
I'm not sold on the cover of "Since You're Been Gone," a great song, but real hard to do without the throat of someone like Graham Bonnett.Title track is excellent and the instrumental delivers as hyped, it's Aerosmith cops which is what the band indeed says. Second is extremely fine, too. Is it also a cover?
Beat the heck out of the Black Halos, which just came out on Liquor 'N' Poker. Ramalama street punk rock, emphasis on the band and supporters calling it "rawk," which is also a cue phrase for me that phrase is: No songs, not many riffs, either, just energy. Best tune is an old Tom Petty cover, which surprise, surprise, is a bona fide song.
And Cheeseburger just came in complete with faux Harry Nillson cover art. Completely disguises what's in it. My congratulations! No pandering to the rockers! Could trick an indie nerd into buying itthinking it was sensitive and arty or something.
Contents are cheeseburger loud AC/DC riff but kind of awol on the rhythm section for the sake of attitude. Verdict's not in, could easily be one of those boom-bang-crash short recipes -- it's an EP -- that get's out of town just at the right moment.
― George Smith, Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)
Hard to figure how Crash Kelly could top "Penny Pills," so get it now. Very glam -- and I be telegraphing some stuff -- it's their career statement, like Suzi Quatro's first two records, alos really recommended for people who thought Cheap Trick went south after the first album, although not sounding much like that. A Canadian band worth ranking in with Max Webster, "Penny Pills" is much better than "Hangover" which none of you would know because you're NOT OLD ENOUGH, and high praise, too, having nothing to do with Rush.
Cheeseburger's "Gang's All Here" gets a the thumbs up, now, too. Noisy, blocking, hard rock tumbling into metal. Like any good heavy hard rock CD, the slope on it is positive after first listen. Simply produced, crashing, intentionally contemptible but accurate lyrics. The tunes are economical, crashing and full of holes -- momentary silences -- the way good hard rock always is. Things said upstream still apply.
― George Smith, Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 June 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
More basically, they can develop a groove, the rhythm section isn't tied up trying to prove something that will look good in print in a metal 'zine.
Soilent Green came along for the ride. Listened to half before being interrrupted. No verdict. I did like "Deleted Symphony for the Beaten Down" which was their last from a few years back.
― George Smith, Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
Curious about the Leng Tche
― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 16 June 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
I'm blown away by the recent Primordial album. I can't stop playing the thing.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
And another bump for Cheeseburger's "Gang's All Here." Where did they come from? Is it just blind luck?
― George Smith, Thursday, 16 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
Got the Nightingales EP in today's mail - death metal drumming, downtuned guitar, occasional low-in-the-mix urp vocals, and the lead instrument is Matt Shipp-style piano. Four songs, 19 minutes. I think they've got another record coming out this year. I hope so, because this one is fantastic.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 16 June 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)
No enthusiasm for Meshuggah. Collapsar hung around longer before heading to the stow box.
Stang, a Philly trio, has a live CD/DVD out that sounds like Return to Forever's "Romantic Warrior" without Chick Corea and with all the mood stuff removed. Or the latest Electrick Band L. Ron Hubbard-tribute thing without CC and the guitar way up in the mix. Or if you remember the first Automatic Man record, it sounds similar. Heavy guitarist plays fusion, sells it as virtuoso power rock.
― George Smith, Sunday, 19 June 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)
No, but my friend Jamie just finished recording their newest CD. And Brad will be sporting a fancy new Ibanez Iceman w/Giger graphics on the front of it as soon as we get it shipped to us.
Nicest bunch of blood-spewing maniacs you could ever hope to meet, BTW. Sort of like GWAR without all the stupid. Or perhaps the right kind of stupid...
― John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 19 June 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I can't get into the Meshuggah cd, either. The band wakes up during the last third, but the rest of it sleepwalks too much. As an experiment in pro tools editing, it's not too bad, and the programmed drums sound okay, but it sounds far too mechanical, even for Meshuggah. Plus, when you have one of the genre's best drummers in Tomas Haake, it's a complete waste not to have him perform on the record.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 20 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
Got a 3-song sampler from the upcoming Black Dahlia Murder disc in today's mail. I like those guys a lot.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 20 June 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
New Accüsed is a killer.
The reformed Nuclear Assault's new CD might be their best.
Blood Duster's nu metal parody video is great!
Who asked for Rods reunion show pics?
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 20 June 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
Pornstorestiffi!
― George Smith, Monday, 20 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0525,eddy,65091,22.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
Good to see some love for the new Candlemass...that one's easily the biggest surprise of the year. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard it...it was as if the last 15 years didn't even happen.
Oh, and I officially love the new Clutch album. Much more consistent than Blast Tyrant (and amazing album artwork, too). I'm looking forward to seeing them at Sounds of the Underground...their southern jam metal is going to be a fun contrast with Opeth, Lamb of God, SYL, High on Fire, and all that metalcore.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 20 June 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)
And if you're going to take Chuck seriously, and you should, then digging up the entire Gentle Giant catalog is something for you to get started on. I recommend "Octopus," to begin, particularly "Knots." And if you're feeling like a sissy, the first album, which is in the same space as first album Blue Oyster Cult.
And if you're going to the recent reissues, set the laser needle down at the halfway point on "In a Glass House." The bonus cut is particularly tasty when turned up LOUD.
And if (is there an echo in here) if pdf is saying something is cool than I probably agree that it is indeed so because we have similar tastes even though we don't get along, but should get along, because we have much more in common that refuting and confuting.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)
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― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)
...er, "since you been gone" is actually NOT a .38 Special song, come to think of it, is it? Is there some .38 Special song I am confusing it with? I have no idea. Maybe I just always *assumed* it was by .38 Special, when in fact (correct me if this is wrong, George or any other '70s AOR experts out there) it was (according to one website I just checked) Head East's highest-charting top 100 hit ever. Which is REALLY weird, because I always would've thought Head East's biggest hit by far was "Never Been Any Reason" (known to "Baba O'Riley" fans as "Saved My Life Going Down for the Last Time.") How could I have been mixed up about that all my life? Or DID .38 Special cover it once? (In other Crash Kelly news, I love how the guitar instrumental on their CD keeps turning into Aerosmith's "Same Old Song and Dance.")
Also: Why did Head East love pancakes so much?? Weird!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
What are the other Head East songs I heard on the radio that aren't the usual perps...hmmmm, seems to me "Jefftown Creek" gave them some mileage too.
Head East iconography: flapjacks, haywagons and road signs. Obviously, they knew their AOR middle American hard rock audience.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
I meant "Teenage Wasteland fans! Totally fucked up my own dumb joke.
Crash Kelly "Since You Been Gone" vs. Kelly Clarkson "Since You've Been Gone"
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)
-- a. begrand (abegran...), June 20th, 2005.
otm, i have to agree its really disappointing, especially after the "I" ep which was incredible.
― latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 24 June 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 24 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
Got the third edition of Rock and the Pop Narcotic today, and the only change from the 2.13.61 edition is a two-page preface in which Carducci states he made no changes between versions 2 and 3 because he didn't want to come off like some kind of obsessive.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 24 June 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)
Disc 1PaschendaleRainmakerThe Wicker ManBrave New WorldFuturealThe ClansmanSign Of The CrossMan On The EdgeBe Quick Or Be DeadFear Of The Dark (Live)Holy SmokeBring Your Daughter To The SlaughterThe Clairvoyant
Disc 2The Evil That Men DoWasted YearsHeaven Can WaitTwo Minutes To MidnightAces HighFlight Of IcarusThe TrooperThe Number Of The BeastRun To The HillsWrathchildKillersPhantom Of The OperaRunning Free (Live)Iron Maiden (Live)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 24 June 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)
Personally, I'm holding out for the upcoming live CD/DVD this summer...
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 25 June 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 25 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
Relapse to reissue complete Atheist catalog
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
The NRA board member, [infrequent] Fox News talking head and author of books [almost no one has read] such as Gods, Guns, And Rock 'N' Roll, Blood Trails 2 and Kill It & Grill It: A Guide To Preparing And Cooking Wild Game And Fish recently moved his family — his wife, Shemane, and the four kids — to Crawford, Texas because he liked the school system there.
"I share campfires [with] soldiers who have given up their legs and arms and eyes so that I can go hunting, so that you can have a career and I can have a career and we can go barbecuing and we could be the best that we can be and travel across state lines without the Gestapo and the French stopping us."
"There's nothing more pure and organic than critters of the hoof... If I've been smart about anything in life, it's that at the tender age of 57, there's not a city in America where there isn't one of my fellow brothers with something dead and fresh over mesquite waiting for me. Is that beautiful or what?"
"(The botanists) come to my ranch in Michigan every year, where I have a wonderful specialized wetlands known as a fen... the only piece of ecosystem in North America where the Mitchell's Satyr Butterfly is thriving, an endangered species everywhere, except on Ted Nugent's property."
On what he would do in the event of a "War of the Worlds"-like alien invasion: "I'm privy to some firepower dynamics that your average civilian is not and we would just wipe the (expletives) out. And then we'd probably sauté them and use them for bait and kill some bear over their carcasses."
"Since the Motown greats, I don't think I've ever seen such soul, such virtuosity in every one of those gals and every one of those musicians to the point that I was stunned and genuinely chilled by the soul and dynamic of that Destiny's Child operation."
― George Smith, Monday, 11 July 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
the primordial one is growing on me a lot.
i wish absu would release something new soon.
― cb, Friday, 22 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
but i'm recommending everyone check out deathspell omega's kenose cd. 3 tracks, 36 minutes, sorta progressive black metal sans musical theater bits or synthesized orchestra hits. friend of mine said it sounded "too neurosis."
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
On another topic, I recently picked up an Australian import CD of Randy Holden's Population II, which is possibly the greatest late-60s/early-70s power guitar album on the planet. It's got eight bonus tracks, which are apparently another whole lost album called Guitar God. Anybody know about this? They're almost as good as the Population II stuff, but not quite as heavy. Any bio info anybody can offer would be appreciated. George?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)
there's a good interview with randy here.
btw, same label (progressive line) did the silberbart four times sound razing reissue, which is heavy as hell and absolutely freaked out.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)
http://www.furious.com/perfect/randyholden.html
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 July 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 July 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Friday, 22 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 22 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
The Gizmos are playing in Brooklyn tonight, one zip code away from the Villians/Khanate gig. rock rules, soul sucks.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 22 July 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
The one with Rob Halford on the cover? Was that 1981? If so (as I remember) that was GREAT, Ian! They even called the Dictators, Runaways, and MX-80 Sound metal bands. And made fun of EVERYTHING. A big inspiration on my impending career. And everything the humorless maroons at most other metal magazines could never dream of being.
― xhuxk, Friday, 22 July 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 22 July 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0529,eddy,65956,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 22 July 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
And everything the humorless maroons at most other metal magazines could never dream of being.
Ahhh, the rapid rise and eventual fall of RIP.
― George Smith, Friday, 22 July 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)
also, the new beecher, which i'm digging. And yet more NeurIsis type stuff from Deadbird. lotsa distortion and maybe more of a longhair doom vibe to it than those other sweeping desert vista art-metal bands.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
Currently I'm loving the first two albums by the Mass, an Oakland quartet whose vocalist is also a saxophonist. Shades of Yakuza, but these guys are less thrashy and more harmolodic/funky - they get into some almost No Wave shit at times. Really solid stuff, both discs on Crucial Blast.
Got the new Skullflower recently too - wanted to like it, but it sucked.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 23 July 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
haha. i'm so glad someone else uses that tag...
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 23 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
how can anyone hate DRI?? yoo r crazy, chuck. they were my boyhood idols.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 24 July 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 24 July 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
Oddly, though, I apparently have no problem with dime a dozen NeurIsis bands, at least so far. I call them "ambient thrash," myself. Being generic is fine, as long as I like the genre. (At least for now. Dime a dozen Gathering/Lacuna Coil type bands finally started getting on my nerves last year.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 24 July 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 24 July 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 24 July 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)
here is my zatokrev review:
Zatokrev – Zatokrev (Earache/Codebreaker)
It takes a band to fuck a village. Wait, no, it takes four bands. And wait, it’s not a village, it’s modern metal. And those bands aren’t fucking modern metal as much as they are “inspiring” it, for better or worse. And those four bands are At The Gates, Neurosis, Dillinger Escape Plan, and Converge. 73.8 percent of all new bands sound a little like one of those bands. Most of the rest either sound like a combination of those four or a combination of Darkthrone, Slayer, Napalm Death, and Gentle Giant. Zatokrev – which loosely translated from the original Czech means “all the best names were taken” – sound, at times, like very heavy Neurosis combined with very heavy Godflesh. And if you are anything like me - and if you are, you would be stoned right now - the idea of this combination has your shorts as soiled as your grandma’s bloomers after an all-nighter at the Polish-American club. Repetitious hypno-sludge riffs are a dime a dozen. As are down-tuned thru the floorboards bass players who miss your face by a mile. As are stuck-in-a-beartrap caterwauling garglepusses. As are doped up drummers forced at gunpoint to play four beats per minute. But, as any suicidal day trader will tell you, it’s all about synergy and the different ways that unforeseen market forces can make everything come together. That last Cult Of Luna album? As Neur/Isis knock-offs go, it didn’t do much for me. But the new Callisto album? Groovy like in the movies. Go figure! And I’m adding Zatokrev to my all-star doom squad. These Swiss misters have got the plod that keeps on giving. And their slow motion stomp and mock pain is definitely my gain.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 24 July 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)
true dat, as the kids say, scott, true dat. ditto better than my bloody valentine, tortoise, whoever. if you're going to play meaningless non-rocking background elevator kitsch (which i will fully concede that neurois, isis, pelican, and their followers absolutely do), at least have some GRAVITY about it. which is to say be HEAVY. which is to say FILL UP the flucking background so i can read the paper or wash the dishes in piece. go all out, dudes (and dudesses).
― xhuxk, Sunday, 24 July 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Sunday, 24 July 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
Manowar was able to fill the TLA in Philly. Startling, I would've though 100-150 at best. "Hail to England" is in BestBuy for $10.99 which is -----finally----- a reasonable price for it. It's a short album, about the highest point of -effective- Manowar death to false metal camp. Was produced by Jack Richardson, which means a lot if you were into hard and metal in the 70's, and -he's now, Jim- for a long time now, I thin'.
Krokus to tour in the US, as is Saxon, apparently skedded in places that hold about 150-200. And, I am informed, Metal Church live still is more than adequate, although principles are either dead or doing other things.
― George Smith, Monday, 25 July 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)
― Pangolino 2, Monday, 25 July 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Monday, 25 July 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)
What we need is for the reunited Accept to tour North America, not just Europe.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 25 July 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
Go see for yourself and cut that sentence in half -- they're playing the Continental this month.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 25 July 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)
How about Old Man Gloom?
― earlnash, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― dan (dan), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)
Saint Vitus "Live" on Southern Lord, was originally issued on a German label in 1989, or thereabouts. At some theatre outside Munich across from a jaegers' lodge/restaurant. Of the CDs I have, Saint Vitus is one of the few that owns codeine-spiked -cough syrup- as an adjective. And they even play semi-fast, for them, on this one. Weinrich on vocals for this, not Reaghers. I preferred Reaghers but Weinrich turned Saint Vitus into more of an instro band, which was OK, too. Although this crap is now common, it was more effective when it was performed by total pariahs.
― George Smith, Thursday, 28 July 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)
References: Highway Robbery, Bang, Bull Angus, some Stray Dog, most Stray, Hard Stuff.
― George Smith, Thursday, 28 July 2005 06:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
http://www.whiplashmag.net/clanky/images/dabluv_hlas.jpg
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 28 July 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
Second, "Blood & Thunder," guitarist Kenny Cox sacked the entire band and replaced with new guys, who sounded much the same as the old guys, except with rougher production. The rougher production made the album better by degrees. Good instrumental, "The Eye." Title cut again leads the way.
Usual generation gap caveats apply to fans of current things.
― George Smith, Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― George Smith, Thursday, 4 August 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 4 August 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)
http://villagevoice.com/music/0532,eddy,66650,22.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 6 August 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Saturday, 6 August 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 6 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and the new stuff sounds great live.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 6 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
The new Agoraphobic Nosebleed double-disc (only 77 minutes of music total, but 136 songs, so impossible to fit on a single CD unless you hid a bunch of 'em as backwards tracks) is great. A collection of all their early split singles, 7"s, comp tracks, and demos. Also, if you go to their website (www.agoraphobicnosebleed.com) you can download a track they did with Isis - a version of the Melvins' "Boris." It's pretty great; I'm certainly enjoying it more than any Melvins song I've ever heard.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 14 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
I was looking forward to recommending the new Between the Buried & Me; the last one was awesome mash-up of metalcore and pure technical death metal. The latest is much clearer, so it lapses into power metal territory more befitting the musicial proficiency. Still more interesting than the 2nd Necrophagist, which pulled a similiar clean-up act.
I'm into the two Byzantine songs I've heard. Great that this is what passes for commercial metal these days; technical Testament/Meshuggah inspired Appalachian tales.
Was Countdown Cafe a Dutch tv show? I just got a live audio of Mercyful Fate from that series. Mercyful Fate circa 1983 is terrifying and great.
I've been in awe of this guy all day, Harris Johns, the producer behind Dimension Hatross, the guy who gave Away a drum sampler and Piggy a guitar sound. Yes, that's a Sodom platinum award he's holding:
http://www.spiderhouse.de/english/HARRIS/platino250.jpg
Chuck, you'll be sad to hear that Carlo Little (once of Screaming Lord Sutch and the Roman Empire) has died. Here he is in a photo with Blackmore in the mid-60s:
http://www.deep-purple.net/othernews/savages.jpg
New Turbonegro produced by one Redd Kross' McDonald brothers still sounds exactly like the Didjits.
The Impaled Nazarene live CD woke me up -- I feel asleep on this amazing hyperspeed wall of noise about five years ago. There's also a great video on their web site featuring precision facist American-style cheerleaders doing fast routines with machine guns. I'm renewing my subscription.
Forget about Horna, will ya? There's a big world of crappy, low-end black metal out there, mostly with ten times the spirit. There's a Black Witchery / Conjuror split, a new Belfegor, probably 10 shitty Xastur releases... save your spit for the new Sunn black metal album.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Sunday, 14 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0526/050629_music_earth.php
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/byzantum
― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Sunday, 14 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
and there's a new lugubrum album! heilige dwaze, their most dire, murky, sloppy one yet - with saxophone here and there, but i think the banjo's out.
Forget about Horna, will ya? There's a big world of crappy, low-end black metal out there, mostly with ten times the spirit.
exactly.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 14 August 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)
― don, Monday, 15 August 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
Wino's spreads himself thin, so I have to pick and choose and the "wino" fix for this year was the reprint of Saint Vitus "Live." It ain't great but it doesn't stink up the place, either. Easiest place to get a version of "Born Too Late." I had the first Place of Skulls, liked it, but then sold it anyway. Hmmmm.
As for additional biker rock, not metal but metal fans should surely like it, there is none more chopper than David Allan Coe's "Penitentiary Blues," mentioned over on the Country thread. "Walkin' Bum" is the bestest and mostest supercilious thing I've been given repeat listening to this year. Comes complete with Coe's advice on making it through prison. The year this originally came out he is said to have been taken on tour as opener for Grand Funk Railroad.
― George Smith, Monday, 15 August 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
I got sent a promotional copy of the sleeve. Hooray! Great CD sleeve!
― George Smith, Monday, 15 August 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)
Has been said many times with gusto about LATE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE, using the "LP" in place of your nu-fangled descriptor.
Go for the Villians 7" -- that's a given.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 15 August 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nne ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)
New ambient-thrash CD at least as dull as Red Sparrowes or Cult of Luna (but a lot easier to listen to than Agorophbic Nosebleed): Life of Agnony
New York indie boys and Siren Fest vets pretending to be the Darkness and/or Queen and/or Van Halen, getting a catchy riff in here and there, but winding up sounding way too thin nonetheless: Diamond Nights
Ohio-turned-New York indie boys (just two of 'em, allegedly former pentacostals) whose new CD rocks in a halfway decent kind of stoner-metal/power-metal/speed-metal hybrid despite being on Matador: Early Man
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)
Woops, I got their name wrong; it's Angel of Decay. (I have no idea who Life of Agony are; I'm pretty sure they're *somebody* though.)
And the novely grindcore jokers (sans punchlines) are AGOROPHOBIC Nosebleed, duh. (I think somewhere in the booklet it says they cover a Voivod song, but maybe I wasn't reading closely enough. And since all their "songs" last about 8 seconds, I doubt it really matters.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)
I may be sending you something on the new Avenged Sevenfold, Chuck. It fits right into the whole "New Old Metal" thing I started talking about in the Trivium review. Might even be worth a longer piece, incorporating Black Dahlia Murder and Darkest Hour. Have to see how it shapes up in my head.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)
You can start talking that way about Byzantine, while you're at it.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
Ambient thrash? That was classic 80's noise band, technically -- noise guy since it's really one person -- recorded on multi-track cassette machine stuff but with much better cover art. The stuff is right in there with the Mnemonists, who were also big on cover art, so as to distract you into thinking you were getting real art, rather than just plain old noise. Sure you don't mix this up with Disembowelment?
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
I find it impossible to hate the Black Dahlia murder album, but the more I listen to it, the more I think it seems to underachieve a little. Darkest Hour does the same death/thrash thing just a bit better.
And holy crap, is the new Grand Magus album ever good. Comes close to matching the great Candlemass comeback album.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 21 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
Google "Sharon Osbourne" "Bruce Dickinson" "prick" for soundclips from Saturday's send-off/piss-off of Iron Maiden on Ozzfest.
Maiden, by the way, currently holding down the #5 singles spot on the UK Top 40.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
heh. spot on. first song i ever heard by them was literally about how the singer's father "had time but didn't have time for me!" awful, awful band - i believe the drummer from type o negative quit that band to join LOA. good career move.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
Nah, weird -- I don't even think I read the press release; the cover art sure looks metal. All of which goes to show that "NeuroIsis" style metal muzak whatsis and "classic '80s noise" might be closer categories than they've ever been before. So, hmmm...maybe I should listen to thing more. I didn't even know it was just one guy! Though I'm not sure how much more classic '80s noise type stuff I need. Unless they wind up sounding like Smegma or Amor Fati, which might be cool, since I haven't had those weirdos in my house for 15 plus years.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
Way closer to this than NeurIsis. Map to early SPK, Monte Cazazza, some Throbbing Gristle, said Mnemonists, maybe Whitehouse, some selections from Smersh.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
Hilarious stuff. And real classy behaviour by Sharon, too.
Cutting power, tinkering with the mix, having the band egged...the lady is a lunatic.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 21 August 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)
I totally have Smegma and Smersh mixed up in my memory now, too. Were they related? Either way, I probably thought of them as the exact same band.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
MARE – "Nightgoat"THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN - "Honey Bucket"MASTODON - "The Bit"STRAPPING YOUNG LAD - "Zodiac"PIG DESTROYER - "Claude"HIGH ON FIRE/KEELHAUL - "Oven"MEATJACK - "Shevil"* STRAPADON FACTORY – "Joan of Arc" *ISIS/AGORAPHOBIC NOSEBLEED - "Boris"ABSENTEE - "Revolve"EYEHATEGOD - "Easy as It Was"DOG FASHION DISCO - "Anaconda"DISENGAGE - "Raise a Paw"BLESSING THE HOGS – "Hogleg"CKY/GNARKILL - "Laughing With Lucifer At Satan’s Sideshow"MARITIME MURDER - "Copache"MADE OUT BABIES - "Bar X and The Rocking M"PINCER 2 – "Echohead/Don’t Piece Me"
* featuring members of FEAR FACTORY, STRAPPING YOUNG LAD and MASTODON
Anyone heard this yet?
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)
For that matter, what do people think of KOVENANT? They may or may not be the band I'm confusing earlier Hypocrisy CDs with. (Actually, I think that band started with "C." But they weren't COVENANT, who are a decent goth-industrial act not a decent goth-metal one.) (I am also pretty sure that band were Germans. Or Scandinavians. They put out a two-CD career retrospective a couple years ago. Who were they??)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
― don, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
>Country-associated album of the week though is *The Mighty Jeremiahs* (Paradigm Shift/Ear X-Tacy Records), which is Kentucky Headhunter guitarguy Greg Martin's covers-and-originals gospel-metal side project, and George and Frank and Don HAVE to hear this thing: "Shadrach, Meschach, and Abednego" and "Testify" for starters kick as hard and heavy as anything on *Big Boss Man* (maybe even its title cut), there's a beautiful Southern Rock guitar solo version of "Revelator" toward the end (before the more bleh last cut "It's Been a Good Day."), and all in all it may be the hardest rocking Christian rock I've ever heard -- and its more wall-to-wall heavily boogiefied than the Headhunters' album, too. I actually think it's the better CD of the two.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
Can't wait to hear this.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
http://www.darkfuneral.se/skivomslag/RR070_preview.jpg
On a scale of 1 to 100 how METAL is this front cover ?
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― don, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
Just finished transferring Borbetomagus's Live In Allentown cassette to CD. I think this might be the rarest item in their catalog; it's not even listed in the discography in the back of their Live In Tokyo disc, and that one's got everything right down to old 7"s. I've had the tape for 18 years or so, ever since I read about it in Byron Coley's Spin column and made a special pilgrimage to Bleecker Bob's (my first time there!) to get it. It's not metal, exactly, though there are some almost-riffs from the bass player, but whatever it is, it pretty much embodies the phrase "ass-rapingly great."
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)
I'm liking the album quite a bit, a cool bit of metals black and power. It seems to be going in the kind of sirection that Angela Gossow apparently wanted Arch Enemy to. AE's got the solos, but Virus has the songs.
The Opeth album just keeps getting better the more I hear it...
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
The execution is great if that's any positive consolation. Of course, that has to be a given with the form.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
i'm intrigued - where can i find more info?
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 25 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
Since it's on their own label distribution may be scant. I haven't seen it in stores out here although I presume it will be at Amoeba. I will probably make the record release party or get e-mail from Jonathan Hall, the guitarist, and I'll ask him how copies can be secured if you're outside LA County.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)
Don't need to hear Khanate any more though. Never tried before; just attempted *Capture & Release* and didn't make it through the thing. What a suckass wicked-witch routine that singer has. And I don't get it; they're supposed to be mega-heavy droners like Sunno)))))) or whoever? I don't hear a groove; what are you supposed to grab onto?
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
― don, Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)
http://pw1.netcom.com/~chrisp/Backbiter/order_info.html
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4185168.stm
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
Chuck, I'll give Jonathan Hall a head's up. In the same seam as Backbiter is Motorcycle Black Madonnas new CD, which is Jonathan Hall's girlfriend as front person for Backbiter-like band, featuring Backbiter guitar. It's more art but basically the same kind of rock. Thrown down virtually live in the studio, very mid-70's particularly as the band warms up.
Went down to Amoeba and it was a banner day. I'm gonna report more but suffice to say George Brigman & Split have finally made it to CD age with "I Can Hear the Ants Dancing," which isn't quite the same as the original "I Can Hear the Ants Dancing" (I think) or "Human Scrawl Vagabond," but is a good collection. And it's on Bona Fide, so I'm guessing The Left will get a reissue job too, maybe. So if you're into heavy Groundhogs, you're going to want to look for George Brigman.
And reissue of J. D. Blackfoot's "The Ultimate Prophecy," Stoney Curtis Band's "Acid Blues Experience" through wall of Hiwatt stacks, and Jericho Jones (Israeli proto-metal ca. 72 ? I thin') "Junkies, Monkey and Donkeys." Going to be a burnt chrome and cindery Thursday night. Oh, my back's aching already.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), August 25th, 2005.
i think they sound more like shit, personally.
― latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: has a gila monster lodged up his ass tonight for some reason (late, Friday, 26 August 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)
jericho jones! great album!
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 26 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 26 August 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
There were a bunch of things I was looking at but saved for a differnet trip. One was a record by Golgotha. Know anything about 'em?
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 26 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― don, Friday, 26 August 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
The Brigman CD is less Groundhogs-like than "Human Scrawl Vagabond," exceptionally high on fuzztone hard sludge jazzoid and psychedelic instrumentals.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 26 August 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 26 August 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
― don, Saturday, 27 August 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Saturday, 27 August 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 28 August 2005 02:15 (twenty years ago)
also they don't like celtic frost's great *cold lake,* metallica's great "whiskey in the jar," and ufo's great first couple albums, the ingrates.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)
Although it's one of the most reviled albums in metal history, I've alway been weirdly fascinated by "Cherry Orchards".
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 28 August 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)
Also: No entries for Hawkwind, Helmet (but who cares), or Black Flag (though Rollins's pointless novelty/spoken-word/stand-up/bad-jazz-fusion career gets an entry, weirdly.) The Almighty (who I like a lot) get an entry, but Therapy? don't (but Terrorvision do, and they sound like I might like them. Would I? Didn't Therapy? have an album *called* Terrorvision once? Or am I confused as usual.) Mortiis gets one! Killing Joke do not. Almost every big-name late '90s rap-metal band gets one (Papa Roach, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Alien Ant Farm, Mudvayne, even Kid Rock) (but not the Beastie Boys or Run DMC -- too early I guess), and the entries for everybody from Def Leppard to Papa Roach list demo-style indenpendently released rare early EPs that nobody ever actually heard, but the Queens of Stone Age entry does not list their early Man's Ruin split EP with Beaver; does that mean my copy is highly e-bayable? I dunno. Also, oh yeah, Lemmy also dissses Kiss and Twisted Sister at the beginning of their entries, but not Skunk Anansie, who he apparently loved. Were they actually any good? I think I heard 'em once and decided no.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
I could do a Rolling Stone "red book" synopsis of them.
Came to fame through ubiquity of annoying take on a Michael Jackson song and accompanying video. If you're someone who believes in a supreme being, he or she decided to take revenge by running their tour bus over a cliff, striking them with much more force than a smooth criminal.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 28 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― don, Sunday, 28 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 28 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
Then proceed directly to "The Fourth Dimension" which shows them at their slowest and most brooding (try to get the version with the "The Abyss" bonus track which is a fantastic song).
― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 28 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
In other news, some thoughts on the new Khanate.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
Playing the new Fireball Ministry now. It sounds okay so far. But it seems maybe more Soundgarden than '70s; possibly not a good move...
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
Track #8 has some semblance of a Sabbath groove maybe. Sort of.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
It was and, since I haven't actually heard the new one, the old stuff wasn't trudging. They released excellent versions of Alice Cooper's "Muscle of Love" and a couple Aerosmith songs. "King" was their best song and they released it on "FMEP" which was brief by stoner band standards and better for it. They rerecorded it for the last album. Live they were always very good, much better than the acts they tended to be paired with -- standard stoner fair like Men of Porn, Drunk Horse, Altamont (something Dale Crover had going), etc.
Since I haven't heard the new stuff, all bets are off.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
i hated it. so bad. i even warned people about it on my warn people thread. even in comparison to other comparable forgettable drunken "joke metal" or drunken " joke punk" albums it's horrible.
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)
Oh, believe me, Dale Crover should never be allowed near a guitar. When I saw them they were all you said and more. High low point was a song about fucking chickens or something.
New Modey Lemon sucks. They probably always sucked from what I can tell. "Loud hard stuff" for the crowd that hates loud hard stuff, you know, those who read daily newspapers and take it seriously when a band from Pittsburgh in 2005 is compared to the MC5 in 1969 by some staff yahoo. Couldn't even make it through the entire thing. Something generates bass sequences that all sound the same. In fact, every riff is about the same, aimlessly pounding -- not tight, except when the guitar player starts up his shitty toy synth to break the monotony.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 1 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Thursday, 1 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, ten months later, this sucker is not only still hanging around, but sounding better and better. I agree, this is Albini's best work in ages.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 1 September 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
― rev. don, Friday, 2 September 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 2 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
George Brigman's "Jungle Rot" from 19745-75. More later.
And Buster Brown's only Aussie release from '74. Formative Heavy boogie band for Phil Rudd and Rose Tattoo's Angry Anderson, when he had a slight bit of hair. It's the band that invented the bib overalls "look" for Rose Tattoo.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 2 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
Great album. Great sound. Definitely Albini's best work in a long time. Perfect for High On Fire. Man those drums are KILLER.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 2 September 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)
I saw the video for that song a couple of months ago and I can definitely understand the odd fascination. It looks like hair metal video shot by Godard. The singer for Celtic Frost is so disconnected and drained out looking in the video, it reminded me of the scene with Peter Cook as the pop singer in the original Bedazzled. The band looked all glammed out, but the song is really cold and distant sounding. It was bizzaro hair metal. I vaguely remember hearing some Celtic Frost back in the late 80s and it was way too weird for me at the time. Even though this record is supposed to be completely unlike anything else they did, it was so odd I have been curious about that band ever since.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 2 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
Outside of the metal community, there seems to be absolutely zero consensus of what's good. That makes it a challenge for me -- I've delved deep into metal at a few stages in my life, but the last few years I kind of burn out after absorbing about fifteen new albums. I get in the mood to hear metal about a couple days every month. So I'm not too confident that I've heard a large enough sample when I list my top 13 at the end of the year.
I'll certainly check out the recommendations on this thread. I'm about to listen to the new Opeth for the first time. Wish me luck.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 3 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)
yep: "jane doe" b/w "russian roulette," 7-inch 45, 2000. i liked that one.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
Decibel!!! (and not just cuz i write for it, although that is certainly reason enough to subscribe.) (And Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles is good too for a wide range of stuff. i have to subscribe to that one cuz they don't sell it here where i am.i have missed a bunch of issues.)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
Yep. On Aztecmusic or something, an Aussie label, naturally. Not as crunching and freight train as Rose Tattoo -but- they kind of wrote better rock and roll songs. Great cover of "Roll Over Beethoven" and Angry Anderson is already everything he would be in Rose Tattoo. The guy was born ready to rock.
Euclid's "Heavy Equipment" is pretty crushing. There's not really a weak cut on it. "It's All Over Now" is as decent as "Gimme Some Lovin'" which actually starts with the arrangement Chicago Transit Authority used for their live version of "I'm a Man." If you're a fan of "Vincebus Eruptum," you need Euclid, In fact, I know I'll listen to Euclid more than Blue Cheer.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
Albini'swork with Living Things, Red Swan, and Cordelia's Dad is better, to my ears. But yeah, good drum sound, at least right when the album starts. Beyond that, I'm not so sure.
I like Modey Lemon and Drunk Horse more than George does. Never thought to compare the former to the MC5, and don't really think of the latter as stoner rock (at best, Drunk Horse hit me more like a west coast version of Oneida's more rocking moments, albeit with Stonesier guitars.) Basically though, they're both loud art-rock bands. I guess Modey Lemon have grown artsier over time and maybe Drunk Horse less so, and I liked them both more a few years ago -- Modey Lemon's self-titled A-F Records 2001 debut and Drunk Horse's self-titled Man's Ruin Records 1999 debut (I think it's their debut) are where to start. But honestly, I've had nothing against the stuff by both of them I've heard since. Not even close to top 10 candidates (neither were the debuts, in fact), but keepers nonetheless (at least until I purge my collection again in a few years and decide to sell them after all.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 September 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
First cut is something that would be at home on Outlaw Records with the Godz, or actually Eric Moore's Godz, with the substitution that Rota has a much better voice.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 4 September 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)
"Just found your bit about the all-mom rock bands. I agree that it's a bit of fluff, except for my band. We did fly out to NewYork. we wiped the floor with the other bands. Check it out:
http://www.placentamusic.com.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 4 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
beautiful creatures' album, which i like a lot regardless, turns out not to be a grunge record, either. basically, it's a bang tango record, a really good one.
and i will check out placenta (who i'd never heard of before now.)
living things' *ahead of the lions* on jive/zomba has a real shot at my top ten. i like every song (12 of them). best, i think, are "bombs below," "i owe," "bom bom bom," "end gospel," "no new jesus," and "monsters of man," a couple of which i'm pretty sure never ever appeared on either their previous geffen album (which never came out) and their two previous EPs (which barely did.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
They have said they will furnish me with a CD.
Still haven't heard to Living Things. Last thing I saw was an import and a lot of hoo-ha that it was censored in the US because of anti-Bush fervor, which I wasn't quite buying, but didn't feel like spending the money to determine 'twas true.
Oh yeah, and Montgomery Gentry did indeed do a cover of Blackfoot's "Train, Train" on CMT and it smoked.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 4 September 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
Laughs of the day, from the LA Times, on a jag about Modey Lemon:
"...stun level garage blues..." which is closer to what the Blue Cheer CD is and "....Hendrix and beyond blast..." Ha-ha, the Modey Lemon like Hendrix, such jokers. Oh course, the same article tries to convince Yoko Ono doing "Dont Worry Kyoko" for about the first time since Frank Zappa called it "A Small Eternity with Yoko Ono," was "expression of a wide range of emotions."
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
and in case you missed this:
You Finally Get To Hear My Favorite Metal Band!
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
Interviewed Scott Ian tonight - he swore up and down that despite releasing two live albums, a best-of and an old-songs-rerecorded disc in the past two years, plus bringing their previous lead singer back, they have not become a full-time nostalgia act.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)
MX-80, formerly MX-80 Sound, has "We're An American Band" in the slot. It's not "Out of the Tunnel" or anything as ferocious as "Someday You'll Be King" but Bruce Anderson, guitarist, retains excellent heavy tone and a multitude of styles. It's 60 percent dream and mysterioso mood metal, 38 percent attack. Two or three songs given over or in line with Angel Corpus Christi, female artist who've I've never heard but who is longstanding art-wise.
Out in front of art metal including semi-pop tunes that will never be played on radio. After 30 years, MX-80 Sound has gone from an attacking super dissonent jazz metal band out of Indiana act to a very arty heavy pop band from California.
Euclid is still on the top of the play list. Man, thanks, El Sabor. You must get Euclid if you're into heavy riff grunge with no equal from 1970.
And Dave Marsh's review of Grand Funk "live" for Creem magazine in '70 is the apotheosis of worthless snob rock critic prose. No one has ever topped it. Without Marsh's name attached to it, it reads unintentionally as satire. It's about the worst piece of writing by someone who thinks he's sophisticated I'ver ever seen, period. Paradocically, hardly anyone has ever seen it because no one read Creem before it became a slick, and this was just before that transition.
Photocopied from the original mag, if it had been in wider circulation without the guy stifling himself, Creem wouldn't have made it past 1972. In fact, the mag might have actually done better without him as an editor.
For Pete's sake, Marsh couldn't even spell the name of the lead guy in the Loving Spoonful for the cover of the issue correctly. But in the same issue he could spell "Hermann Hesse," who had nothing to do with rock and roll.
Fuck Dave Marsh, a pompous ninny, racked up as the George Tenet of rock critics, so to speak, someone who had a lot to say, all wrong, but still awarded points -- a Medal of Freedom -- for it.
I can't describe how shitty and hilarious Marsh is for ILM. Send me a request and I'll either send you a Xerox (this was written in 1970!) or slot it for addition to a webpage I'm designing on the genesis of proto-metal '69-'72 and how totally out of it top dog rock critics were on the genre.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 September 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)
"...Jagger's chilling slaps at traditionalmasculine roleplaying became mundane in a thousand others who tookbisexuality for mere faggotry..." Mere faggotry, in a review of GFRR's "live" black album. And what's "mere faggotry" anyway? It's not in Webster's, but this gives you the impression that it's superior to be bi rather than a mere homo. Fucking A.
Another howler: "([the Beatles] descent into putrefied prissiness),the flower music, the solo bash-em-in-the-ass jams and Britishpretty-boy-bisexual rock came as the most crunching letdown sinceCannonball Adderly and Sonny Stitt gave up free-form for funk."
You'd never know the guy is reviewing a hard rock record. It's over 200o words and he doesn't get around to even mentioning the band's name until about 1500 have gone by.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― dan (dan), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 9 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 September 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)
Kinda love the new Ewigkeit album so far, too. (But then, I would.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 12 September 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)
Also like the pseudo-Satantic early-Venom-style stoner-thrash EP *Warship* by Saviours. That it has only three songs helps a lot!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
And "Lights Out" is about blackouts and brownouts, all over town.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
http://www.perfectpitchblack.com/
Track: Down the Drain sounds like My Bloody Valentine !
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)
Also his work on the new Gogol Bordello.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)
http://www.ephelduath.net/newsmain.htm
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
Anyone heard their new album ? Memento Mori
Being compared to High on Fire and Mastodon
ecard available:http://www.lifeforce-america.com/witheredecard.htm
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
"Is art conscious or unconscious? Up until now, there was art in metal, but there wasn't for the most part a self-awareness about it."
More of this conversation should infect my brain.
"It's simple to talk about Satan as a symbol, but it's important to consider the deeper meaning of the symbol."
The fount of wisdom that makes small brooks to flow.
"Perhaps more than any other genre, metal has historically been exceedingly tribal."
Can you spell h-a-r-d-c-o-r-e? Can you spell p-u-n-k r-o-c-k? Can you spell [fill in the blank]?
"But there are signs that even traditional metal bands are becoming more eccentric. Recent metal albums have paid tribute to authors from Melville...to Tolkien...to Blake..."
Boy, if we tried to tally up the "eccentricities" of metal bands from '72 onward "paying tribute to authors" we'd be here for fucking weeks.
"...its members, who perform in druid-style robes and typically use industrial smoke machines, actually alter the feel of the room."
They change the space and time, the warp and woof, the Higgs boson, the quark, strangeness and charm flavors. Black Widow dressed in robes and I heard they undressed a girl on stage at all their shows.
"The result is audiences for whom a Def Leppard T-shirt could only be a sign of irony, though there may be hope for further indoctrination."
"This is not your older brother's metal crowd."
"Metal in general has long been unjustly maligned as solely the province of knuckle-dragging meatheads...That said, there's never been a group of musicians like there is now, who are helping to advance the form."
There you go, the usual meme, furnished by source quote, that the new blood has evolved beyond the limited DNA of all who have come before.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
"Some fear, though, that the self-conscious positioning of art-metal bands has done a disservice to worthy acts who stick closer to tradition, and who are often ignored, if not scorned, by outsiders."
Ya mean like for the New York Times? Ha-ha. Fear not the arch pushing out the meat-and-potatoes on the pages of the big Sunday paper, it's the way of things, the ISO 9000 standard.
"Experimenting with a lighter side, including free jazz and even modern classical music."
My pate bows to such rich garments.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
The metal album displayed by the cash registers at BestBuy audience (which is where I see the Opeth record every week) is not the Sunday Times audience.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
Well, just look at all this fucking metal in the stuff being pimped on the first page of the AR website. It's just a damn horn of plenty of heavy metal and hard rock.=======
PAAVOHARJU Yha Hamaraa
In many ways Paavoharju can be likened to fellow enchanting Finnish artists Lau Nau and Fonal labelmates Islaja, but their finely detailed yet loosely strung music is considerably more melted and collaged and electronic. Listening to Yha Hamaraa is almost like eavesdropping on a dream... or having someone else's heartbreaking memories come back to hazily haunt you. Sounds, voices and melodies drift in and out of focus, occasionally overlapping and seeping into one another. Sometimes it seems like you're listening to a rickety old radio with the dial set between stations so that the sounds somehow magically fit together. Odd faintly familiar elements make their presence felt such as in the ninth song where the male vocal melody brought to mind a twisted folk (and of course very Finnish) version of "Stairway To Heaven". The swooping, trebly female vocals find their own special place between Indian film music singers and the Southeast Asian voices
BANHART, DEVENDRA Cripple Crow (XL Recordings) cd 13.98 For his latest full length, Banhart has taken a marked departure from the mystical woodland art-folk kingdom he conjured and inhabited on his first three albums. This is evident even before you hear a single note -- he opted for a Sgt. Pepper style collaged crowd photograph on the front cover rather than another of his illustrations
BARDO POND Selections : Volumes I-IV (All Tomorrow's Parties) 2cd 19.98 Hard to believe Bardo Pond has been around for over 15 years, and even harder to believe that they continue to create slab after slab of gorgeous drug soaked psychedelia far better than their more well known and more prolific psychedelic brethren.
CHALK, ANDREW Shadows From The Album Skies (Faraway Press) cd 22.00 It remains to be seen if the duo of Andrew Chalk and Christoph Heeman will ever collaborate again, after rumors surfaced describing an acrimonious falling out in the wake of an ill-conceived Mimir / Mirror performance. Sure, Mirror has certainly produced some amazing recordings; Eye Of The Storm, in particular, is an impeccable document of droned-out environmental eerieness.
CORTES, LULA E ZE RAMALHO Paebiru (Shadoks Music) cd 15.98 Oh boy. Now here's a real "holy grail" psych album, at last reissued on cd and widely available!!! You've heard a taste of this if you've got the Brazilian edition of the Love, Peace & Poetry compilation series.
GAULT, THE Even As All Before Us (Flood The Earth / Amortout) cd 9.98 By now everyone should be familiar with SF black metal legends Weakling. A brief existence, a handful of shows, and a single amazing record (released on Andee's tUMULt label, we should mention). Members of Weakling played in and/or went on to play in Amber Asylum, the Champs, Drunk Horse, Asunder, Sangre Amado, Saros and the short lived but now totally cult blackened gothic doom outfit The Gault. Recorded way back in 1999 by Tim Green, The Gault's Even As All Before
SPEKTR No Longer Human Senses (Appease Me) cd 12.98 Not a list goes by without a review declaring some record THE WEIRDEST EVER. So, okay, we can be a little hyperbolic at times, but it's just cuz we get so damned excited. But since we're always on the lookout for the weirdest records ever, it's not really all that strange that we might actually keep discovering some new weirdest record ever! They just get weirder and weirder. AND, as you probably could tell, it just so happens that we have a definite thing for bizarre black metal, the more fucked up and strange the better! And again, always being on the lookout for weirder and weirder metal records, we manage to stumble across quite a few
VENETIAN SNARES Meathole (Planet Mu) cd 14.98 The more recent Venetian Snares albums (all of which we've loved) from Canadian electronic wizard Aaron Funk have fallen muchcloser sonically to the maudlin minor key string soaked IDM sound of Boy / Girl era Aphex Twin
WOODEN WAND & THE VANISHING VOICE Buck Dharma (5RC) cd 14.98 Okay, so did we warn you a couple of lists ago or what about an imminent abundance of Wooden Wand releases?! It's already become pretty much impossible to fully digest one of their cds or lps before another one sprouts up, but don't get all stressed out trying to keep pace
ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE & THE MELTING PARAISO U.F.O. Goodbye John Peel: Live In London 2004 (Dirter) 2lp 24.00 Super limited (500 copies worldwide, we got about 20) double live album recorded in London in 2004 from the Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso
BATES, TYLER The Devil's Rejects - Original Motion Picture Score (La-La Land / Lion's Gate) cd 16.98 Some of you may be tired of us going on and on about that Devil's Rejects movie (we listed the Banjo And Sullivan and the killer soundtrack recently). Well tough luck! We finally got the score in and it's amazing,
BLACK DICE Broken Ear Record (Astralwerks) cd 16.98 Nothin' like starting off your morning with a big ol' cup of coffee and a big ol' earful (well, 37 minutes or so) of Black Dice.
CALEXICO & IRON AND WINE In The Reins (Overcoat) cd 10.98 Ooooh, does that sound like a splendid combination to you or what? Two of our absolute favorites together on one release, performing seven songs penned by Iron & Wine's Sam Beam?!
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― dan (dan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
Okay.
I like reading the album descriptions on Aquarius's site, though I've yet to buy anything from them. But it seems to me that the biggest problem they exemplify (and so does the Times piece) is the self-congratulatory nature of "smart-guy" metal fans-come-lately. "Looka me! I'm into metal!" Sure, as long as it's at Tonic or the Knitting Factory. But you won't see 'em at the basement gigs in Queens, with five Satanic death metal acts straight from Bogota.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
Yes, I see, at the "disservice to worthy acts who stick closer to tradition." Plenty of Argoba Teenage Riot and the CD-R of that stupid kid singing karoake lyrics to his dad's band performing Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher." Weird metal, the weirder and weirder the better, in their words. So, in fairness to readers, the New York Times should have said, "a retail store that specializes in weirder and weirder heavy metal." We don't do no Jake E. Lee solo album.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
No, no, no, not at all Jeanne. You made me curious, I haven't heard of Goat Horn.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
Couldn't have said it better. It's fairly obvious they're into metal as "arch" and "stilted." The equivalent of the newspaper man bites dog story.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
Also, thanks for the Backbiter info -- waiting for it to come in the mail.
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)
Did you look at anything but the new arrivals page? Aquarius lists a lot of arty stuff, but they've also got positive write-ups for Wishbone Ash, Hanoi Rocks, Iron Maiden, Pentagram, Buffalo etc.
― bogle, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
In terms of newspaper articles, how -- if you're writing a story on metal in a paper in NEW YORK CITY -- does one come to select a talking head out of a storefront in SAN FRANCISCO? It's so damn obvious it kicks you in the head. Hey, no record stores that specialize in metal in NYC or metro-Jersey, no way no how.
And why pick one, anyway, without going around to the trouble of finding a number of stores that "specialize" in metal, assessing their catalogs at a glance and -- then -- asking their buyers what sells for them rather than some profundity on art-metal? You know, it would take less than an afternoon to find a handful and, I'm betting, spread out among the buyers assessments ranging from, "Neorisis bands don't do too bad" to "That shit don't sell."
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
yo, that's jada pinket smith fronting a funkmetal band
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
I think so. I haven't really liked Neurosis in years (Cult of Luna does 'em better than they do themselves) and Isis peaked with Oceanic and its follow-on remixes, to my ear.
Can't agree with you on the new Exodus, though. They should have stayed retired.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
And this is lame, too. The only two records in the Wishbone Ash catalog that most typical metal fans -might- like are the "eponymous" LP and "Argus," but only if the copy of "Argus" comes with the "Live in Memphis" cuts. Everything else is pretty much Brit Grateful Dead, and real hard folk rock with intertwining twin leads, even the "Live Dates" record, which includes the key "metal" cuts, all of which are not as good performances as on "Live in Memphis" or "Wishbone Ash."You could pass Wishbone Ash off as art jazz metal, too, because they were -- umm - just listen to "Argus" or "Pilgrimage." Art rock. They probably read books to0.
Caveat emptor: Newcomers to the thread. Be very careful when inspacting the Wishbone Ash catalog on your dime. Big soft jam band.
Plus it's just easier and cheaper to get them at BestBuy and other chains.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
― bogle, Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)
Christ, Aquarius Records and heavy metal/hard rock. I recommend a copy of "The Virgin Encyclopedia of Heavy Rock" by Larkin.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 22 September 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)
Yep. Ha ha, in fact, here's the show preview blurb I wrote up a few days ago, for next week's Voice (they play North Six week after next):
"MINSK -- The spacious grumble-growl of this "Byelarussian" ambient metal quartet's *Out of a Center Which is Neither Dead Nor Alive* isn't audibly as Hawkwind-or-Uriah Heep (or maybe even Dead Can Dance)-steeped as At a Loss Records insists, but it still makes for one of '05's coziest wraparound thrash experiences: past mere Isis or Neurosis blur, into gorgeous caverns of morose gunk last excavated by Switzerland's Bloodstar in the early '90s."
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
See up the thread re record store as source in ridiculous Times metal feature.
were stocking metal several years before any other comparable store
Ah yeah, the metal for people too smart for metal thing because, as the story said, "it is the province of knuckle-dragging meatheads," that is UNTIL the new and intellectually enriching MFA-possessing art metal bands showed up. Sort of like my hard rock for audiences that don't like hard rock peg. Or an allegedly sophisticated audience that don't like hot dogs because they're ordinary, have bad meat in them and come with French's and relish but who like hot dogs if you take out the bad meat, put in a fancy variety of olives, change the mustard from French's to Grey Poupon and sprinkle garlic shavings on them.
you're cracking on also runs a label that puts out records by Pelican and that fuckin' Hammers of Misfortune thing that kicked a fair amount of ass.
Well, that being so, it's another thing the Times didn't mention in the story that belonged in the story, as in, "...said Andee ... [underwriter of Pelican] and co-owner of Aquarius Records in San Francisco, a retail store that specializes in metal..."
So if someone is provided to furnish a glowing pronouncement on the new art metal and we know they have a financial stake in one art-metal band prominently cited in the article, it's the maker of the new brand of hot dog saying his hot dog has a new manner of hot dogness that no previous ordinary hot dogs have. That's the appropriate wrapper but that's not how the feature story delivered it.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
No, refer the assortment of memes and media scripts tossed on the readership by the Times. When I dragged Aquarius into the thread I thought it would prick. It's good that their honor is defended.
likes-metal-while-looking-down-their-noses
Which was the entire thrust of the Times article. And again, always being on the lookout for weirder and weirder metal records, to reuse a few good lines because [Up] until now, there was art in metal, but there wasn't for the most part a self-awareness about it because there's never been a group of musicians like there is now, who are helping to advance the form because it's not your older brother's metal crowd.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 22 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)
What's wrong with sappy? Many of my favorite records, perhaps all of them, are sappy. Sappy is really elastic, it's everything and anything you want it to be.
Unbylined Voice blurb says Waltham are in the Babys/Nightranger way of doing things, and send The Darkness back to Blighty. I say, OK! The Darkness have waited so long since their first LP in the good 'ol USA, one that didn't do the great flapjacks in sales commensurate with press, that they might as well skip the second here, it couldn't possibly live up to even the feeblest expectation after two years spent squandering momentum.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
The byline would've said "Eddy" had they included it (another show preview blurb.) The EP is great, to my ears. "Fast Times at Waltham High", yes! Also great were the Waltham demos (or whatever) that Dan from Boston's Medea Connection compiled on CD-R for me a few years back, which is when I first heard of the band -- that was about seven songs, something like five of which had girls' names as their titles! I think they're lying, though, about not wanting to be sappy -- they do sappy as well as just about any hard rock band out there lately.
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
"So Lonely" definitely makes it into the my P&J singles list among others similarly bursting with hook. And the homemade video of it is silly and charming because it has a girl in it who actually looks like someone you would see in one of Boston's blue collar suburbs, not someone on TV. The tattoo parlor stuff is creepy. I think all tattoo parlors are creepy but it's amusing that this band's audience includes a bunch of guys addicted to tattoo parlors as well as the RS crowd.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 23 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
From new Anal Cunt EP: "You like Coheed & Cambria, You're Gay" b/w "Wigs are Gay"
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
I'd like to know, too, because even though I skipped their first three records, I liked their live CD/DVD quite a bit and am considering buying up the catalog.
I saw the new Disturbed video on Headbangers' Ball last week, and it's the best thing they've ever done, I think. I liked their second album a lot, even wrote a cover story on 'em for Alternative Press, and the single doesn't sound like a big change from back then, except now (since power metal is this year's secret ingredient) they've added guitar solos. Which is great, because I always thought they would have been arena huge if they'd had 'em to begin with.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 25 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)
Yes, but by this same logic I should be going to sf/fantasy conventions and Ren Faires. Wild horses could not take me to those locations.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
Iced Earth is really up and down. About little over half the catalog is pretty duff. However the good stuff smokes. The first record even put a fairly obvious BOC lick into the mix -- the head guy, Schaeffer, being a fan. Their CD of covers was decent, particularly the BOC tunes. Even a couple clinkers, there, too. Iced Earth has business doing AC/DC.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 25 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 25 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 25 September 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Monday, 26 September 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)
― xhxuk, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
>Listening to a promo copy of Opeth's latest CD I got from Steve Smith and these guys are FAGS! ARe there ANY good metal bands out there? Yeah, Opeth has chops, but so does Celine Dion. So what?
You can tell these dorks have listened to King Crimson and other prog, but what's the point if they don't have any originality at all? (The whole POINT of prog rock was to INNOVATE and do things no band had ever done before.) These fags do the generic growl vocals and then go into postQueensryche faggery vocals. The record should be called "FAG SANDWICH". These worthless putzes almost make me miss VoiVod. You all need to stand up to these lemmings and tell them to a. stop plagiarizing their predecessors b. realize that you can be complex, but STILL have hooks. (ELP / YES/ Crimson / Genesis / Magma / fIREHOSE et al's complexity was never gratuitous.) (60-year old ELP can STILL play circles around these metal mooks!) The Tapedeck did blisteringly complex math-rock and prog-metal but it was always stunningly original. (Listen to "This Is Not Supermetal" or "Eat SHIT, Meshuggah" again.) We were the greatest art-metal band ever and you killed us off with your blacklists. AQUI are also a great example that complex metal doesn't have to be unmusical or personality-free. (Your ignoring them helped break up the band last month! Nice going!) I know Wolf still wants to hate Sleepytime Gorilla Museum but he should see them when they return soon. They ape the past [pun partially intended] but still add tons of new shit and Carla all by herself is superior to almost every metal act or musician in rock history. ANd if XAR! wasn't such a lazy shithead, his "majestro" (majestic-electro) (aka operatic electronic prog metal) could take metal twenty years ahead. SMITH! BOSLER! Tell us about CREATIVE metal bands! And ATTACK unoriginal acts.
WHY is that too much to ask? (Oh shit... this Opeth cut on now is a post-Kashmir rip off!) sincerely perturbed,Touching Youguitarist of Thank You For Not Screamingex-liquid tapedeck [Fast Forward Flood]
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
I did not! Everyone knows I am a Tapedeck fan! "Run Thru the Wind With Your Hands on My Timmy Tim Tim" is one of the prettiest pop metal songs ever.
Fast Forward Flood/Tapedeck Rejects & Bad Demos
AQUI are also a great example that complex metal doesn't have to be unmusical or personality-free. (Your ignoring them helped break up the band last month! Nice going!)
Didn't know that.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 26 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
Yes, it's the mellowest Opeth album I've heard - but I didn't hear Damnation, which I'm guessing was mellower. At first I was a bit disappointed because I was hoping for something that would rock as hard as Deliverance. But once you start listening to the pretty chords and intricate riffs and symphonic structures, you forget about that, and just start enjoying it.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
it's not really hitting me like the last one. i keep waiting for it to grow on me. i tried playing it louder and that didn't really work either. i don't know what's wrong with it. it's not horrible. i like the paint it black rip-off. some of the songs i can see being better live as smokey strobe-light jams. i dunno...hey, i'm supposed to write about it, but if you think it isn't worth the time, i might have to agree with you.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
this is why my Decibel year-end list (due today! yeesh!) is so relapse-heavy
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
this is why mine is so earache heavy!
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
But Jeanne, show us your top 20!!!
Wow, I wish I wrote for metal magazines so I could make a cool list.
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, he sent me a couple comic strips and a review or two he had done for a Voice competitor, (NY Press?) showing the same sense of disrespectfully rude humor which might have been too tough for the pub that was running them.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)
And this seems to be the old other member of the Tapedeck, Soy Bomb, the guy who got up and danced beside Bob Dylan years ago at one of the big awards shows. And I'd not heard of him again until now.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
And here's my list of stretched extremities (heh heh)
[deleted by request - wait and see Decibel readaz]
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)
ha I don't want Albert gettin' pissed at me
I am SUPER pissed that CM didn't send me the God Forbid in time! 'cause their last one was my #1 pick last year, or was it the year before - don't remember, but Gone Forever still rules my world completely, I feel like it practically justifies the screamed vocal + clean vocal school of metalcore
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
just out of curiosity, did they actually define the word on the ballot? if so, i'd be curious how..
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
I think what this means = "you probably aren't reading this is you don't already have a fairly good sense of which albums belong on this ballot and which don't"
although, and this is not news, the best "extreme" albums to my ears anyhow are either 1) the ones consciously, openly playing with their own boundaries or 2) those so ridiculously pure that they give me that kick of purist pleasure that's my own particular opiate
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
10 New(Ish) Albums That Are Better Than The New Nile Album
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
i'm not sure whether i would include blues-based hard rock albums (for example, the supagroup one a la jeanne, though that's not my favorite this year) or not if i was voting in the decibel poll. either way would be fun. who knows, maybe i'd make two lists.
i don't think any extreme-so-called-metal-per-se has any shots at my actual pazz and jop ballot. subterranean masquerade (who i may well be the only person on earth to love, apparently) and minsk might come closest, i'm not sure. (i'd have to go back and check over a year's worth of eddytor's dozens before i wrote this in stone.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
ulver. it will probably be my pazz & jop number one as well. god, i haven't even thought about pazz & jop yet though. i know deanna carter and ulver are in my top ten. that's all i know at this point. when does the o-solo album come out?
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)
Makes me want to put on Men of Porn's Experiments in Feedback, also from Small Stone, but a few years older.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 26 September 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)
How 'bout Ackercocke? Should I inspect, they are -s0- 2004. Fuck it, I am doing a real retro listen and doing Grief tonight. And none of the stuff I have laying around from Candelight except Witchcraft is any damn good. What is that, a joke label???? ICE was a good joke, but where are they in 2005? And what about Liars in Wait?
I don't get it. What is it with the thing of here today gone tomorrow metal? Where is the longevity, where is the spine? Where is the we're going to stick with this worthless band we just signed until they turn in a classic or rupture trying gumption?
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
"The Porpoise Song" -- Goffin/King to the max, with a killing floor outro and wah solo. Click, clack -- the porpoise is waving goodbye, goodbye, goodbye."Tales of Brave Ulysses" -- one of their singles or comp thingsThe song from Manic Frustration that breaks into Atlantis"Till the End of Time -- not the Plastic Green Head mix, but the single mix.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)
http://heatherband.com/
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
Today I'm listening to the Black Army Jacket comp Closed Casket. These guys should have been as "big" as Discordance Axis, but I have no memory of anyone giving a shit about them back when they were around. Maybe it's me. Anyway, they're grindcore, but they slow down a lot and you can often figure out the words. I like 'em.
If you've got anything around by Khold, George, you should check 'em out. I think their last one (they broke up, too) was on Candlelight. I liked it, though I'm not sure you will; black metal with occasional hints of groove and/or heaviness.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
they later went on to do time in Celebrity Murders....who played a pretty ripping set the other night.
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)
Anybody else heard the new Paths of Possession on Metal Blade? It's a side project for George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher from Cannibal Corpse - more melodic, but still basically death metal. Erik Rutan produced it, and I like it better than the new Hate Eternal.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)
THE NEW M.W. DOESNT REALLY SOUND ALL THAT MUCH LIKE DRI, ITS WAY TIGHTER, SUPER FUN W/AWESOME LYRICS....WITTE KILLS ON IT.
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)
And yikes, is the new Animosity album ever great.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)
Burst - Origo (Relapse)
ecard featuring two tracks from the albumhttp://relapse.com/ecards/burst2/
BLOWN AWAY ! this is A+ grade sublime !
complexcommandingepic riffs multidimensional productionexplosive energystunning dynamics and twistscathartic intensityhypnotic engulfing and evolving powerversatile vocals
sure you can hear varied vintage sound inspirations: Neurosis, Killing Joke, Botch, Tool, Cave In, Paradise Lost and Isis .... but who else in 2005 can match the complex dynamics and musical ambition of Burst?
When music this brilliant comes along - you just know it ! you experience it !
Burst have once again reached out, experimented and delivered.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
The new Premonitions of War thing is pretty good. An old EP paired with some new tracks. Not as good as their album, but pretty good. And nice cover art.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/minsk
They remind of that Japanese band: Envy [that post-Neurosis sound] and that British rock band Guapo [in terms of dark spacey psychedelic rock].
Some of the slower textures also have a Mogwai vibe, plus parts of the track [e.g circa 10 minutes into Holy Flower...track] are like The Cure's Pornography era re: some of the vocal stylings, and druggy psychedelic churning guitar sound. Also i wonder if they also listen to VdGG or even Magma?
Another band that spring to mind The God Machine
strange that this band are currently complete unknowns on rateyourmusic.com apart from my listings. [I only found out about this band via this thread.]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
Been an unplanned stoner week with Drunk Horse, Novadriver, Acid King and this band. From slow to rip a new hole to space swirl to total doom mud and some shriek if I throw Grief in.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)
Was downloading some 440's last night, which isn't new, but I like "Slut Girl Blues" and the idea of the band, which was way pre-Slunt. And who is the resident Rancid Vat expert? The Steel Cage catalog is available to me, which is their label, and which would be the records on it to sample? Besides Antiseen, which I've had more than plenty of, what else on Steel Cage is interesting?
Hammerlock? Limecell?
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
Got a package from Southern Lord in today's mail: the new Earth, the new Sunn, and Oren Ambarchi's Triste (which looks like my wife, fan of minimal electronic/ambient stuff that she is, will like more than I will). The Sunn is a lot better than either of the White CDs; might be their best one yet.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
Definitely start with *Burger Belsen*. But wasn't there some kind of reissue comp a few years ago? I forget. I also vaguely remember liking some all-wrestling-song 7-inch EP they did back in the '80s, but I'd have to dig through my Creem Metal review files buried somewhere in the catacombs to find out what I actually thought of it.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
They were always well represented in the fanzines that print one paragraph reviews of hundreds of punk rock 'n' roll records I never see anywhere but in those fanzines.
440's Sparkle Plenty on the same label beats up the dame from Arch Enemy in barroom rock cred. (Does Arch Enemy do barrooms? Probably not.) A lot of 440's sounds similar to early Girlschool. They do a song where she sings about stomping on your johnson in her stiletto heels or something.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)
It's the style defined by Joan Jett and Girlschool, way more to the Girlschool side which is to say they don't give an obvious shit about Tommy James and the Shondells -- and that's about it. The fast ramalama riff, squealing Chuck Berry lead, with hook punctuated by one song per LP of knuckle-dragging white-boy blooz power rock which is usually the next to best song or best song on the platter. Killing drummer, or just recorded well. The kind of thing "Prey for Rock 'n' Roll" purported to be but did not deliver rock cred on because it was that very sexy but lame chick from "Showgirls" and Girls Against Boys live (Cheater in the studio which meant the Angry Inch. I'm sick of Trask/Cheater. Bring back Coney Hatch instead. Can't do Helix 'cuz the lead guitarist is dead-dead-dead and he wrote all the best songs.)
Parallel track to Texas Terri, who also appears to have since jumped the tracks despite minor upward trajectory.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 30 September 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 30 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
I was gonna go see Boris on 10/17 in NYC, but I think I gotta go to the Blackest of the Black tour instead: Danzig, Chimaira, Himsa, Mortiis and Behemoth (plus one other band, I think - one of those stupidly-named emo-core outfits).
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
AOR/Prog--power-metal CD of the week is Brazen Abbot's *My Resurrection,* on Locomotive. Where are they from? Are they Christians? Either way, I kind of like them.
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
the Chuck influence at work right there, or something like that
But I come bearing news of Wall of Sleep, a huge-sounding Hungarian doom band with Wino guesting on their Sun Faced Apostles CD. They don't play blues scales, they don't rip off Obsessed straight on or Sabbath barely at all. They sound like this:
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Wall_of_Sleep-On_Pain_of_Birth.mp3
What deceased 70s rats are being plundered?
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 30 September 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
http://villagevoice.com/music/0540,eddy,68420,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)
Whoa, I missed this one -- got to see them last year opening for Acid Mothers Temple, also picked up a CDR of theirs from an earlier live show at the time. The show I caught was fantastic, amazingly thick Ash Ra Tempel first album/first side/10x the volume type thing; the CDR had a Groundhogs cover, even cooler. I have yet to hear the album, but I must.
Minsk sound like God Machine, you say, DJ Martian? HMMMM.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 September 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 September 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
It's going to take a little doing to convince me anything on Matador is rocking power metal.
As for Earthless, I haven't gotten around to d/l'ing it yet. The 24 minute "songs" are ... well, they are what they are. Sometime soon, though. The Groundhogs cite may just be the catalyst.
And I have to shout about Texas Terri's unjustly ignored "MY Lips" CD. Don covered it well last year but most everyone else missed the boat including me. I didn't catch up with it until last night. Jack Douglas produced it and he brought out the best in her. The songs are built up with glam rock power shouting with background vox furnishing subtle hooks. But mostly, he accentuated her brute force leather lungs which put her in the vicinity of Noddy Holder (not in register, she has a -deeper- voice, actually.) The woman is absolutely on fire as a rock shouter for the duration of the record.
I think the song is called "Raunch City" and it is maniacal in its forward slam. She's singing about being a "head case HEAD CASE! I'm the winner of the rat race!" and the backbeat nails it. The swing on it is vicious. Her first record was decent but it wasn't spectacular like this. Terrible title and I'm sure Douglas had a lot to do with the arrangements and final delivery which just goes to show you how much a sympathetic man at the wheel can turn something good into something fantastic.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0441,eddy,57491,22.html
(though unlike Don I didn't top 10 it) (and as for Early Man, yeah, I get your Matador skepticism. Though I probably like Dead Meadow more than you do, too.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 1 October 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)
But Matador, nah. They did Guitar Wolf for awhile, one of the biggest unintentional joke acts in God's creation. I could listen to Guitar Wolf occasionally, when into hearing Link Wray get thoroughly mangled and recorded like crap on purpose. Anyone who thought they were doing the guy justice didn't regularly listen Link Wray or greaser rock.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)
I will do this when I am not incoherent.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)
If Pygmy Love Circus made an entire album that was as good as the one or two songs they do per album that are actually listenable, they'd be Rancid Vat, the Tool drummer notwithstanding. Strong stuff with a rock and roll underpinning they never had in the days when the vinyl was way more homespun. I tip my hat. No better way to do heavy tattoo'd dirtbag music. If you need a rock and roll definition of "ranting," Rancid Vat will do.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)
And I'm going to hit eventually you over the head with Jack Douglas's arrangement of Texas Terri's career supernova, Raunch City, and how it's one of the crushing metal tunes of recently (and I MISSED it first time out).
Really, the songs begins high energy, but the vocals are built to increase the excitement as the song accelerates to its climax. The drummer drives it as equally as Terri, whose super tough throat and lyrics work the beat mercilessly. And the guitars are Jack Douglas perfect. This track would have cut a trench in Aerosmith's "Rocks'! It's beyond that, really, over lightning bolted in the Texas Terri jar.
My secret weapon re hard rock/metal regardless of stupid metal promotions is now play. We're going to bury you with "Encyclopedia of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal" extrapolation. Which means others might want to explain why -- Minsk et al -- a CD I haven't even been able to find in Amoeba is anything else than propaganda. Is there any evidence that it's obviously in the racks to anyone but those who recieved promos? Not from telling on this thread! I've never seen it.
Minsk, Dvinsk. (Do you know the real town word?? Nah, didn't think so.) Or Smolensk? Brest-Litovsk?
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 1 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 1 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
Aquarius haters above: fools. If you're a true metal fan you can smell your own a mile away. It's immediately apparent when you get into a conversation about metal with someone. I can spot an 'indie' metal fan a mile away. The dudes at Aquarius who stock metal seem to really know their shit.
― God Body (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
http://www.unzeit.de/poster/Over_the_Top/Over_the_Top_72.jpg
― Alan N (Alan N), Saturday, 1 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― Alan N (Alan N), Saturday, 1 October 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
Do better. 'Knowing your shit' at a record store is like passing grade school arithmetic.
Anyway though, yep, Witchcraft's new one is damn fine.
Chuck, you must have received a diff promo mailing. The Waltham CD is long. Came with a DVD, too.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
yeah, chuck, mine is the full-length. it just dragged for me after the first couple of catchy numbers. kinda like george felt with that cd by the 88. i haven't watched the dvd.
i am digging the new album by skullfuzz. so far. you'll never guess what a band named skullfuzz sounds like.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)
Not a lot, incrementally, the band is consistant. If you like the new one you'll certainly like the first one.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)
can we talk about Thralldom now?
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 1 October 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 2 October 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 October 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
LSD was fronted by a glam rock singer with a deep bluesy voice named Stanley playing an LA homeless person. A major label gave them a big advance and the subsequent hype and shtick apparently antagonized everyone, maybe, but me. I thought it was hilarious. The pros overestimated their ability to sell it, especially to a mainstream audience.
It was unwholesome in a crass manner -- the arty and cryptic album art certainly didn't help -- and this link has the entire album on-line if you move up the directory. But the the miscellaneous tunes -- a cover of Alice Cooper's "Is It My Body," and Enuff 'Z' Nuff-like demo of a song called "American Noise (American Noise Annoys)" and live material highlighted by Stanley's unfastened dirtbag ranting are fair to good. Go for the live version of "Fuckin' Shit Ass" and listen to the tail shaggy filth story. "Jawohl Asshole" is worthy, and the unplugged creepy "1000 Santas.
http://www.7171.org/lsd/mp3/index.php?path=misc%2F
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 3 October 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)
I changed my mind about Earthless. I can't get it out of my head that they sound like a really overindulgent garage band. It's background rock music. Sometimes it's nice to listen to it at work for atmosphere.
Is Minsk better than Isis because they don't have any hooks?
Have any of you guys heard The Sword?
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
A lot of the material is pure crap. When I was a Lehigh grad student I became hypnotized by the allure of crap for the sake of crap. Now, many years later, I know the psychoneurosis when I see it again. It hangs on a sort of dependable and cyclic microniche market. It's not difficult to feign deep knowledge and enjoyment of it. Indeed, that is part of the game, to trick others into joining you in a shared delusion. Apply re Aquarius.
Another example: Again the best paper in the world, the Sunday New York Times, interviewed some heevahavas on their favorite records for the "Buy This!" column in Arts. An Octis CD. Ha-ha. I would've put a thing like that on prior to sex and really bummed out my ex-wife back then.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)
This is true for many bands.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
Isis have hooks???
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
I don't know, maybe it's just me but Panopticon struck me as really catchy. I got parts of their songs stuck in my head for days. Every time I listen to the Minsk album it's like I'm hearing it for the first time. When their songs come up in the shuffle, the only reason I recognize that it's Minsk is because the production on the album is so good and distinct. The production keeps me listening to it. I love some of the stuff they do to the vocals. It's definitely not as... um... corny/dramatic as Panopticon.
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
Trudging and l-0-0-n-g doom metal/stoner rock "tunes."
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― i, menarche (yournullfame), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)
this is my favorite piece of metal writing this year btw, good on you
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)
the singer is a "he". and he DOES remind me of a cantor in the synagogue sense sometimes. which is how i read "metal's cantor". happy holidays.
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)
this is my favorite needlessly bitchy pedantic remark so far this year
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
when I kinda dug the Disturbed song I heard on the radio I felt real shame - I still think that dude is like the worst singer ever-- Banana Nutrament (straightu...), October 4th, 2005. (later)
I think he's great - he's metal's cantor.-- pdf (newyorkisno...), October 4th, 2005. (later)
so, umm, y'know, this is actually correct use of the 3rd-person masculine pronoun, and then scott said "i thought the dude from system of a down was metal's cantor," so, umm, like, the error you're claiming to have cited didn't actually happen 'til you made it up
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
> the knack for avoiding metal
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)
Going to see Meshuggah and God Forbid on Friday night. And in other-kinds-of-heavy news, got tickets for the World Sumo Championship at MSG on the 22nd.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)
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― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)
"tour bus humor" n., shit stories, cruel practical jokes, I imagine.What's the idea? To get the "rock critic" to "buy" a copy and rave about it? Maybe it would be good for someone at USA Today or the Sunday New York Times' Arts section.
Hey, Wounded Bird released the first two Rough Cutt albums, too! Now you can hear the third gen hair metal band the guitar player in Orgy came from!
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)
Spotted the new Maiden double live disc today; didn't buy it. Recorded at a single show, like most of Live After Death.
The new live album sounds pretty darn good, much better than Rock in Rio. I'm holding out for the DVD, though...
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 6 October 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
Now this sounds like something I could get behind.
Anyway, I knew I was going to pass on the Rough Cutt. Instead I got digital stuff of Enuff 'Z' Nuff's last one in 2004, the albums ?, and 10. The former is a bit better. Their webpage is funny, the history denying how they were ever a metal band and it was a big mistake to have two video hits on MTV all dolled up the way they were. Of course, that record is the reliable money-maker and ? still sounds a lot like it. If you don't want to be mistaken for a glam metal band, don't do covers of Stone Cold Crazy and The Jean Genie. It's like a guy saying someone made him wear women's underwear in public and then a few years later seen wearing it again.
Funny story about Clive Davis signing them to Arista -- probably the worst place for a band like this -- and losing interest immediately upon finding out the band wasn't going to be another Badfinger/Raspberries, but were going to continue doing glam metal.
Anyway, I like everything they do. Am a sucker for that kind of happy pop metal sound with bits of Beatles and John Lennon voice thrown in.
Another new CD which I wasn't gonna put any cash money on: Savage Rock by Zodiac Mindwarp & the Love Reaction. Yikes, "editorial review" on Amazon says,
Long awaited follow up to 2002's album 'I am rock' this album was recorded in London and produced by Ingo Vauk (Bowie,Soft cell). Savage rock, 13 tracks you won't forget in a hurry.
Wow, no comment.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― ddb (ddb), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
What's your beef w/Deftones? I think they had a moment of brilliance (White Pony) and managed to hold onto some of their good ideas for the s/t follow-up. I'm anxious to check out their new B-sides and rarities comp, too.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 6 October 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Thursday, 6 October 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 October 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
Making mallcore acceptable? Yug. The cure might be worse than the disease. Well, hell will freeze over before I get a promo so it's all theoretical to me.
Tummler had a record called Early Man on Small Stone back in 2002 or so. It's supposed to be good. Anyone know?
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
I went out and bought my copy at Target.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)
I had a Tummler CD I liked once, but it's long gone. Maybe it shouldn't be? I think I was purging my CD shelves a year or so ago and had no memory of who the hell they were, but I must have liked them at one point if they'd ended up there for a while to begin with.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
Love those kinds of stores. The BestBuy in Pasadena is my Target. There's a Target, too, actually. Heck, they're even selling made by Asian slave labor electric guitars at knockoff prices, too.
I get a lot of stuff at BestBuy that's wound up reviewed but this month I'm laying off there. The Avenged cover is one I'd automatically stay away from. Deftones I saw, quality packaging! And Disturbed got the ultra deluxe for the fanatic and stock packaging option. They all look to be in the forward placed hot sales racks.
Technically, the reunited Cream thing would fit here, too. At least the first live Cream album fits on this thread, since it's mostly heavy jammed noise on vinyl. I have a hard time imagining Clapton going back to that so did he?
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)
so i keep hearing. and i'm as opposed to the hipster fetishism of metal as anyone - if they're indeed part of that (before anyone screeches "THEY ARE!" please provide a C.V.), well, they still wrote some damn good tunes.
(not at least giving them a shot just because they're on matador is kind of retarded.)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
So one gobbler from Matador is better trackwork but...
not giving them a shot because they're on Matador...
Hey, we have to pick and choose. Using label rep, or your impressions of the label's "likes" -- is a perfectly legitimate preliminary criterion.
Anyone -- feel now free to have a fit about me briefly bagging on Matador, just cut and paste from the stream of Aquarius. My feeling about Matador is like the one Chuck dropped on Drag City a year or so ago. Or does it have something to do with Homestead being the biggest deliverer of gobblers, ever? I forget.
I know they published Bunnybrains. I even bought the Bunny box from Narnack.
Hey, this isn't about metal!
So, public service announcement: The first few cuts from Tummler's "Early Man" sound good, deploying a nice ripping fuzz-tone on the riffs even though the guy can't sing. Haven't listened to the rest yet but they have the burn. If you see it used and the price is right, you'll probably do OK.
All this reminds me of the fast rise and quick demise of Man's Ruin. Whatever happened to that guy and how long will the cat be locked up in bankruptcy hell?
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 6 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)
http://www.deathwishinc.com/nde/audio.php?id=44
i dig it. dude from converge getting his doom on.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)
Why? The last good record on Matador was the first Unsane album.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
Hmmm, I didn't come to them through that. Now I'd be inclined to believe these bands were noticed by the object in question for some other feature and that rocking was incidental. Example: Rancid Vat and Antiseen for being belligerently taboo-breaking cavepeople, Couch Flambeau for silly laugh vocals ("let's go through the windshield together" repetitive riffing on being an idiot if you lived in Cudahy), the Left for unplayable on the radio lyrics, etc.
Don't remember not being burned by Conflict recommendations that I'd actually believe for a moment in much younger days.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
>...be inclined to believe these bands were noticed by the object in question for some other feature and that rocking was incidental...for being belligerently taboo-breaking cavepeople, for silly laugh vocals, for unplayable on the radio lyrics<
yeah, i can totally see that. gerard definitely had that tendency.
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
Was the Unsane "Skrape" video made during the Matador signing? I can totally believe that as a Matador-stained thing that worked for MTV --"Ha, ha -- yes, a collection of vids of stupid white kids smashing their skulls and balls while skateboarding." Identified and capitalized on a normally hidden market in a malevolent kind of way.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
-- pdf (newyorkisno...), October 7th, 2005. (later)
I'LL BE THERE.
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Rolling Stone, How Black Was My Sabbath: The Four Princes of Downer Rock ca. October 1971. Very pre-Internet and all that stupid groupthink hooha about how kids networking in e-mail is a new aptitude DNA-tastically mutated into their genome and that it's going to do be responsible for things never done before.
One record exec: "They play to a young crowd, say, 14-17 years old but who knows how they hear about them? The word just gets around that this is the group to go see."
Another exec: "It's really incredible. They're not like our other performers and we don't understand their popularity, no one can figure it out. They haven't had that much publicity but their concerts are sellouts and their albums sell millions. The baby teenyboppers all just boogie up in the balconies and then run out to buy the records, and we love 'em."
Black Sabbath and Paranoid had together sold a million times...making [the band] some of WB's top recording artists to everyone's mystification.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
Specifically, that was what I was looking for. Much obliged, Phil.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 7 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 8 October 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0522,fissure,64431,22.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)
The only way Deep Purple can work "reviews," or more accurately, publicity in the US would be at daily newspapers like my old employer. Then it would be tied to local date and the interview would run 5-6 grafs and even that would be a tough fight to get in, depending on the idiosyncracies of the features editor and if there were anyone on hand who wanted to do it.
Oh how nobody loves you when you're middle-aged. You might as well just die.
Unintentionally hilarious article on the twee in the LA Times today: Clap Your Hands Say Yeah vs. The Natural!
The Nittany Lions beat the Buckeyes! What a titanic defensive struggle it was, too!
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 9 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)
Oh wow, DM went from being a good spacey hard rock jam band in love with their foot pedals to hard rock for people who don't like hard rock wastes of time still in love with their foot pedals. Two numbers worth some listen, the opener which has a stiff riff, and the last - a thirteen minute jam which is unremarkable but satisfactory Hawkwind noise. In between, fifty minutes of jangle guitar set to no songs which either sound passively aggressive US altie or like neurasthenic Brit nerd rock with out of tune singing about the melancholy life while dipped in a Grand Canyon of reverberation.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 9 October 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Sunday, 9 October 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 9 October 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Sunday, 9 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 10 October 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)
ihttp://www.terrorizer.com/tIss/ter137f/bigt137.jpg
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
*-- and yeah, I agree DM peaked with their first record too.
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 October 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 10 October 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 10 October 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
http://www.motherjackson.com/
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
well, I wasn't being needlessly bitchy about Wall of Sleep. I am curious what 99-cent 70s rock records I should look for that sound like that.
and a lot of times this thread stinks like a red herring factory, but what's a poor metal sucker to do?
I think the general haters' consensus on Early Man is "pointless" -- their best five minutes is probably the megamix edit of all their riffs on the Matador web site / b-side of the 12" vinyl. Wasn't Matador OLE-001 a heavy rock record by Austria's HP Zinker? Back to the roots, I like that...
The new Ulver sounds like a Tears for Fears remix project. Nice though.
I'm into Circle Meets the Square. It's screaming metalcore with dueling boy/girl vocals and lots of Honor Role & Jesus Lizard moments.
Back to Matador for a second -- anyone swooning for Circle should revisit mid-90s Bailter Space records like ROBOT WORLD and VORTURA.
There's a lavish reissue of Mercyful Fate's MELISSA with bonus BBC tracks and an extra DVD of a 1983 show. Weird excellence.
Speaking of Scandinavian occult sounds, Opeth's "Grand Conjuration" is a LOT like the Residents' "Safety is a Cootie Wootie" in mood, vocal style, and melody. Looking for secret eyeballs at the Webster Hall show.
Phil -- I'll be looking for your worse-for-wear Agoraphobic Nosebleed shirt at the Exodus/Three Inches of Blood show in Brooklyn on Saturday.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)
Here's their track "Izaak," probably named after the Polish guy who discovered headaches:
http://selfmadegod.com/mp3/mp3_smg021.mp3
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
Hmmm, more of a '69-71 vibe going on there which would make it, slowed down, instrumentally like Grand Funk black "live album" without Mark Farner, same ashcan tone as Blue Cheer. Very much like Euclid's "Heavy Equipment" without the hippy vocals, first album Bang, early Poobah, with WoS's guitars not quite as competent. Oddly, it also had a garageband edition of Witchfinder General flavor. Good stuff.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
* Free James Traficant!
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 14 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
I also noticed most of the enthusiasm for Early Man has come burbling from blogs were the bloggers usually devote all their time to spilling on not even close to being rocking hipster shit going down in NYC. In other words, it's judged great insane classic heavy metal by people who don't like heavy metal -- the hard rock for people who don't like hard rock thing -- which is where I'd expect this to be pitched, it being stuck on Matador. By being on that label, they now have a dispensation to like one metal band, not all those other mediocre perisher-struggler metal bands that aren't cool although they've been doing the exact same thing.
It's the novelty pitch. Well, Winnebago Deal, who seem to do the same thing, never got their act together to field a distro deal in the US. Early Man equals Winnebago Deal.
But I'd recommend Early Man to listeners who are into it enough to go scrounging for second and third tier NWOBHM bands. I'm like that. I'll buy the reissues by the Cloven Hooves and Count Ravens and even keep 'em for a year or two before trade-in. Early Man is definitely as good as Cloven Hoof.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 15 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
I'd rather listen to Wolf, thanks.
Albums I like better than I thought I would: the new Cryptopsy, the new Akercocke.
Album I'm really hoping to love: the new Children of Bodom.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 15 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
Finally got the Waltham full-length in the mail; no songs repeated from the EP, oddly enough! "Cheryl (Come and Take a Ride)" is indeed great, as is "Nicole" with its '80s Bryan Adams ("Summer of 69" I think) riff. "Don't Say It's Too Late" may possibly be the only song I might not like, and hell, even that one might be the best Weezer song since *Pinkerton.*
Spent too much time with Epica's CD, probably. The mezzo soprano lady is completely ridiculous, but for a while I was hoping her presence was justified/balanced by the grunting dude and assorted lovely prog passages, at least in the nine-minute closing track. But I'm kinda thinking it's probably not.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
I had vague-but-not-positive memories of their last one. I like metal bands that wear sharp suits, though: Akercocke, Ulver, Tin Machine...
Today I'm listening to Van der Graaf Generator reissues. These guys fucking rule. Glad I waited this long to check 'em out; the CDs sound incredible.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Monday, 17 October 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)
If purist metal tunes get into my Top 10 singles list for the end of the year, Early Man's "Thrill of the Kill" or secondarily, "Death Is the Answer" might make it.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 20 October 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
C'mon, hard rock fellows. The live Off Broadway album kills.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 21 October 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)
New Darkness album won't get past 200,000. Actually, barring a miracle on MTV, I believe it will be stuck around 70,000 TOPS. FLUNK!
So many more hard rock and metal acts to enjoy.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 21 October 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)
Completely OTM.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― dan (dan), Friday, 21 October 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Sunday, 23 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 23 October 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, yeah, The Darkness became an embarrassment, even more so by taking so long to do a follow-up. No one serious pulls that shit. I'll not give up the record but it didn't age as well as I thought it would.
Anyway, am listening thisafter to an old Earache tribute to Black Sabbath with Cathedral and Iron Monkey on it. Makes me want to listen to Forest of Equilibrium or something. And the C Average stuff I mentioned earlier is up and down, some real shite on it offset by two Birmingham-tone imitations that are cool.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 23 October 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
There's a Celtic Frost tribute from earlier this year just laying here. Should I give it some serious consideration? I see Marduk's cover of "Into the Crypt of Rays" is on it. That was fair to good as I recall when they issued a couple years back.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 24 October 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
confessor? i dunno, they went away, they came back. i think some dude died. they put out an ep before this album. if you liked them in the past you would like this album.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
I have the mp3 and its pretty good so far.
The Boris Archive set sounds great too http://www.archivecd.com/dairy.htm
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
― Alan N (Alan N), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)
i bought that nortt/xasthur split on southern lord and fell in love with it. so beautiful.
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
Certainly It's unlikely I would find it in Glasgow.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― Alan N (Alan N), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
― Alan N (Alan N), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)
Tomorrow I am set to listen to Ramesses, out this year in England, the one with World War I artillery pieces on the cover. That and old Confessor. The Ramesses guys were the rhythm section of Electric Wizard on the Dopethrone tour.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
New album, fairly new EP, trumpeted by Lamb of God as a guiding light, it's a new age in Richmond. Unfortunately their old guitarist died of cancer. There's also the Loincloth band on the side.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)
The Nortt half of it, yeah, fantastic. I want everything by that guy. But I'm gonna have to dig into Xasthur a little more, because I thought his half was kinda disappointing. The Gothy guitars totally ruined it for me.
I took a look at that Boris archive thing at their Knitting Factory show. Didn't seem worth the money ($35) at the time.
Next show I'm going to for sure - 11/7 at BB King's: Suffocation, Vader, Cryptopsy, Decapitated, Dew-Scented, Aborted, not necessarily in that order.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
Has anyone else heard the new End of Level Boss? Good, straighforward stoner/doom from the dudes who brought us Hangnail.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)
The best tracks for me are the ones where the band is stretching to achieve something that lies just (or in some cases a long way) beyond what they're technically able to achieve. Seems like those bands are conveying more emotion or vulnerability or something than the more technically adept yet mediocre acts. I'd rather hear 19 year old idiots from Yeovil trying to recreate Sad Wings Of Destiny on a budget of £50 over bandwagon-jumping pub rock lags any day.
Highlights - Trespass, Blitzkreig, Angel Witch, Venom, Silverwing, Sledgehammer, Warfare.
Lowlights - Quartz, Samson, Cloven Hoof (disappointingly).
Oh yeah, and one of the spotty herberts headbanging on the front cover is my brother, age 17! Plus his bandmates from their short-lived NWOBHM combo Deathwish.
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/i/covers/6592374.jpg
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)
Been listening to Ramesses We Will Lead You... It's very decent, short enough so that the troll vocal isn't around much. The riffs are pummeling doom, the drummer ex of Electric Wizard giving most of it a good forward sense of groove. "Witchampton" is excellent.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)
Pretty much, unless you count that basement in Queens where all the death metal bands from South America play. There are lots of venues booking metal in Manhattan these days, though, depending on size - Roseland, Irving Plaza, the Nokia Theater (which I've never been to)...but BB King's is where all the really good death metal shows are.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)
This Crypticus disc "Dedicated to the Impure" is kinda on the insane side, incidentally. Came out back in August as it so happens.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)
It's 'mcgarnickle'. Thanks!
So, how is it then? Last few releases have been pretty amazing.
― Alan N (Alan N), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)
BTW, since when were south american death metal acts not good? I'll take the generic Brazilian sound over the generic American DM sound right now.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)
Naw, Marseille sounded like commercial Def Leppard half a decade before commercial DL, and without Mutt Lange or better hooks. But the album that came from was a good one and it got some play in the midwest in the States. Most of the NWOBHM bands on this collection didn't even get stateside releases, were only available as imports. And that was the second Marseille album. The first was recalled by the label. Sanctuary put a Marseille double disc together last year and some including it all. A fair to excellent band.
Nutz would've been Rage by that point. Their song on the first Metal for Muthas upheld the Nutz tradition.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)
Didn't say that at all. All I'm saying is, there's this one tiny place in Queens that books shows by bands you've never heard of, coming up from Bogota and staying on the guitar player's cousin's living room floor for a week.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
Leaning toward thinking Tokyo Dragons (from England I guess, album on Escapi Music) are almost as ignorable as Danko Jones (see above): pro-forma/competent hard-rock/pop-metal riffs under lyrics ("let's go get high," "c'mon baby and shake that ass") stupider than hard-rock and pop-metal ever were. Ha ha, get it? It's a joke. Just not a funny one. Though anybody who wants to try to convince me otherwise is welcome. I can imagine there being a good song on here somewhere; just don't know how much energy I have to dig around for the thing.
CD-R EP by Ann Arbor via Brooklyn's Awesome Color is faux-*Funhouse* (minus sax) pysch-blues slime with better singing and songs, probably better guitar playing too, than the Laughing Hyenas ever had (hell, maybe better than the Birthday Party ever had), if anybody cares.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
Well, shit. Now I want to visit NYC more often.
Any idea on a website where any info for the shows is posted?
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0525,sotc1,65107,22.html
The writer says four bands featured members from Latin America, but again, as I recall, that mostly meant that the members had been *born* there, but they live in the States now. Maybe I'm wrong though.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/ephelduath
Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know
UK / European release: October 31st
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
Got the new Falkenbach album, Heralding The Fireblade, in the mail today. Viking metal, pretty good stuff. On Napalm, a label that's just started sending me stuff - they put out a new Belphegor album earlier this year that's great.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 28 October 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)
I'm currently listening to the Boris/Merzbow CD Sun Baked Snow Cave. It's very beautiful. Doesn't sound like Boris or Merzbow. Recommended to all.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, but there was another band before them that was even worse. I can't remember their name now, but it was an acronym - S.T.U.N. or something like that.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)
The album's inner book art has four people sort of posing in an artist's conception of military/M-16/bow and arrow pose over gunned down others. They remind me of the Hangmen, only better. It seems to me the sound was more common back around 91 or just pre-Nirvana when the record companies tried to capitalize futilely on a dirtied up sleaze rock bands like Vain, the Sea Hags, the Nymphs. The Sea Hags, Hangmen and Nymphs were spectacular failures, too. Money spent, management aligned, no one was biting. Heck, I'd even through Life Sex & Death in there as another similar blow-up. Lillien could be the kind of loose cannon "Stanley" was.
I like the record. It's not a top tenner. Similar to the Backyard Babies if I liked the Backyard Babies more, I think. Could do with more chop in the arrangements. Still, that's a quibble.
Q Prime often lined up to back and manage big zeros. The name that comes to mind immediately is Warrior Soul. They were supposed to be political, too.
Don't get sent Candlelight stuff. I know I bagged on the label a little earlier but bought and liked Witchcraft's new one. Plus, I.C.E. was entertaining for a brief time. Saw Grand Magus and Bronx Casket Company in the store the other day. Won't buy 'em at this point but would love to hear 'em. Liked some of Grand Magus' debut on TMC a few years back and still have Bronx Casket Company's debut, which was hilarious. Now they're into covering "FreeBird" as ghoul metal which sounds like a potentially amusing idea to me.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
JPT Scare Band's Jamm Vapours is great plus they sent me T-shirts and everything they have in the closet. Another set, Rum Rum Daddy comes in a close second to JV. Think mid-70's heavy hard rock with an exceptional guitarist and a nice acid acrid sound. Plus, there a couple good hooks in the tunes.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I remember them. They were horrible. From LA, I think, and yeah, also marketed as political. As were Amen, if I remember right, who were also horrible, and I think the press in England bought their hype but no one here did. Which reminds me that Spin seems to think the Living Things will be enjoyed by Libertines fans, which there are really not very many of in the States, which is understandable given that the Libertines are more inept shambling Brit-pop than hard rock anyway, as far as I can tell. (Though I guess they have a kind of rep as rowdy young lads who start rows in the loo, just like Oasis did; you just can never hear the loo in their music. Or the dope, really.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)
http://gracieband.com/index2.html
Also, I LOVE this new wave fake punk band from LA (their album has a better shot at my top 10 than living things even), though if you're not the kind of person who can tolerate Pearl Harbor and the Explosions, *definitely* don't bother (and either way, you're free to ask why I'm mentioning them on the metal thread. Cause I'm kinda sick of metal right now, maybe? There you go. I'm sick of all the metal that's listenable just being background Muzak! The four rock bands I liked most this year - Hold Steady, Bang Sugar Bang, Hard Skin, Living Things - were something else. When metal gets better again, I'll like it more.):
http://www.bangsugarbang.com/
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 November 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)
Did you notice how the singer used to have hair just like some stupid Boston emo punk rocker's in the early concert footage, then all of sudden he gets a makeover and looks like someone from the Stray Cats?Neat! It made a difference. He goes from looking like a dweeb to an Eighties dude who could be on the set of an MTV vid shot in an auto repair garage. Verisimilitude to subject matter and audience. Always important to take care of the details.
I regretfully inform that all my Warrior Soul CDs have since bit the dust. I still have my old King of Kings CD. Does anyone remember King of Kings? They were kind of in the same boat except less attempts at being literary.
You know, the Cult mainstream albums and a Quiet Riot remake of all their Metal Health hits are some of the biggest hard rock downloads on eMusic? Those and Early Man.
Guess I'll have to listen to Living Things more. I'm not as flipped out about as you yet. Might not happen, I could be not having the right thing for the Berlin brothers, if they're brothers. Still think there are two singles on the Early Man record.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 4 November 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 4 November 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)
aw, that's sad. it was such a great year for metal. you should turn up that background metal you like and make it foreground metal.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)
I heard lots of great songs. I'll make you a tape.
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 November 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
-- George the Animal Steele (george_the_animal_steele...) (webmail), November 4th, 2005 12:36 AM. (link)
I agree. And one of them deserves a DFA remix.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, with the Glitterati, the first tune right off the record, "Better Man," is their best shot. The album's worth a listen and I thought it was slated for US release but I only have seen imports.
It's not as good as Living Things. It sounds to me like most of the songs, all with hooks in them, were built or written off of drum programs, actually quite swinging ones. So you can actually dance to most of it which is presumably the point although when I read a live review of them by Chuck it didn't seem like they were much into being a dance band. I'm assuming then they're considered not to be metal or metal enough even thought the guitar pretty much rules the melodies.Dancing not good, makes very young men of metal shrivel up.
Phil noted Hammerfall. The song that was performed on Smallville last week was Rainbow's "Man On a Silver Mountain" and it was done by them. Have no idea if it's on a new record. Sounded good, though, and that was indeed one of Rainbow's better songs.
Murdock had tunes on it. And the guy has a great "yeah!!" scream. He screams it right in tune with the power chord, so he could have had vocal lessons on hard rock screaming, an article on which I read earlier this week in the LA Times features section. Ramesses, mentioned earlier, did not have tunes. It just had doom. But it was pretty good doom and it didn't last too long, which generally chases me off if it goes on for 50-60 minutes instead of, say, twenty.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
I've been listening to a strange mix of things. At the request of a girlfriend, I'm making a workout mix of hair metal. The only thing I own that can remotely qualify is Motley Crue, so I ended up hearing stuff (the non-singles) by L.A. Guns, Poison, Cinderella and Whitesnake for the first time. I did own the first two Ratt albums at the time. It was a gas hearing them, really, but I think I'm good for another 20 years.
I dug out Ride The Lightning and Powerslave for a flashback to freshman year in high school circa Halloween, god knows why. I'm craving something new that isn't as dense as most of the current metal, maybe just a little cheesy. Early Man was fun at first listen, but I don't think it'll stick to the ribs. I'm curious about the new Darkness but am prepared for letdown.
Motörhead's great trilogy of Overkill, Bomber and Ace Of Spades are coming out on double de-luxe versions Nov. 15.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 5 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Saturday, 5 November 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)
Well, why are you reading this thread then? You'll surely be annoyed by much of it. Might as well get used to sarcasm and contempt straight off. Glossy 'zines intelligently focusing on metal are matter and anti-matter. Like oil and water, immiscible even though the fans of such may believe such is not the case. Doesn't mean it's not good or appropriate to write for such excellently, but dont you think for a minute that you're getting Scientific American, a daily newspaper, or even MAD magazine-type incision. Decibel's common in Pasadena, relatively speaking. Hey, the press that came with the Early Man CD, after I'd already had a digital copy, led with press from Decibel. I was impressed.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 5 November 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 5 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
This is true, and the message board will be up and running by then too.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)
I picked up some Witchfinder General (1982's Death Penalty -- very silly stuff, but I love the Sabbath-like low end), and the last two by Enslaved. How come no one talks about them? I don't listen to a lot of black metal, but Isa was mentioned in context of the last Opeth as pushing boundaries. Doesn't sound at all similar, but I dig it so far.
I should have done some research, but I also picked up Living Things on impulse. I thought they were well liked here, but it might be just a single lunatic. I can forgive a band for sounding overly-polished and generic if there's enough passion, or riffs, or hooks. But I ain't feeling it. It might be the same problem I have with the Wildhearts. They have the 'right' influences, but not the songs. By the way, is the new album simply a re-recorded version of their debut? What's up with that?
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― A Single Lunatic (Who Also Likes the Wildhearts), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)
― A Single Lunatic (Who Also Likes the Wildhearts), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
LIVING THINGS update...--4 star review and "New Face" in Rolling Stone--rave review in Spin--4 star review in Blender--CD of the Month in Maxim--cover of Nov/Dec Amplifier magazine--charting at Modern Rock radio--"Advanced Warning" to air this month on MTV, MTV2 and MTV Overdrive--MTVU and Fuse add Floria Sigismondi-directed video for lead track "Bom Bom Bom" --iTunes Download of the Week--RoKo Phone campaign by Cingular starting this month
― xhuxk, Monday, 7 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, it is silly, part of it's charm. Listen for singer shouting his own name out, "Zeeb!"
I think it will take a minor miracle or two to break Living Things. Lots of TV play and even that might not do it. Even the publicist is one of the industry names. I guess getting on KROQ wouldn't hurt either.
And indeed, Living Things have the basic guttural rock and roll sound that was common to the bands I cited earlier, except LT are tightly bound to drum patterns that come off grooving drum computers. So they're a lot more pop but still solidly hard rock. It worked for ZZ Top. I'm not sure I even heard one guitar solo on the album. It's pretty good dance music.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 7 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)
i think there was an entire thread dedicated to isa. i still think monumension is their best.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
Fwiw, they're nowhere in the new issue of Billboard -- not Top 200, not Heatseekers chart, not Modern Rock airplay chart. So if the push is indeed resulting in radio play, it apparently ain't much, at least not yet. (And the album's been out for a month, since early October.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
Before Story of the Year hit nationally, Living Things appeared to be the most likely candidate to replace the Urge as the top rock band from St. Louis. Of course, it would help if the group's Berlin brothers - Lillian, Eve and Bosh - could actually get a full-length CD released. (St. Louisans may remember the siblings as Jason, Justin and Josh Rothman, their names when they played as the precocious Skubies in the mid-'90s.)
Living Things' first CD, "Black Skies in Broad Daylight," was shelved permanently by DreamWorks, leaving the band in limbo. But after getting dropped by the label, perhaps because of its heavy Bush-bashing in concert, the group was picked up by Jive, which is now releasing "Ahead of the Lions." ... But even if you're not into the heavy messages, it's still easy enough to enjoy the CD's cool factor. These punks evoke bands such as the Ramones, Nirvana and the Stooges on songs such as "Monsters of Man" and "Bom Bom Bom."
Grade: A-
--St. Louis Post-Dispatch
I sure didn't hear no Ramones, Nirvana or Stooges. Does anyone actually know what the Stooges sounded like? Yeah, Living Things is real Raw Power or I Wanna Be Your Dog stuff.
Most of these tunes were actually cut with Steve Albini in 2003 for an album titled Black Skies in Broad Daylight -- a disc critics hailed as one of the most explosive breakthrough discs since Nevermind and Appetite for Destruction.
So how come you never heard it? Well, because it never came out in North America. It was pulled after the band -- led by three brothers calling themselves Lillian, Eve and Bosh Berlin -- repeatedly antagonized their then-label DreamWorks by playing loose-cannon gigs (that included onstage fires and urination) and by refusing to alter their politically charged, anti-religious lyrics.
A great album deserves a great back story. And Ahead of the Lions, the sorta-debut from St. Louis rockers Living Things, has one of the best we've heard in years.
It seemed Black Skies was destined to be one of those great lost albums -- until Sony BMG stepped up and took a chance on the disc, which has been retitled, resequenced, remixed and rejigged with a few new cuts. But neither time nor cosmetic change can stop this monster.
Whoopsie, here we go again.
Start with the fuzzed-out raw power chords and nihilistic swagger of The Stooges...But it doesn't get any better than the fist-pumping fury of Bombs Below, a three-minute salvo of immortal rock perfection on par with Smells Like Teen Spirit or Welcome to the Jungle. -- Winnipeg Sun========
If I were aiming at pop success and numbers, being compared to the Stooges wouldn't do anything for me. Or something, like Nirvana, that everyone bought in more quantity than sliced white bread. Time to bury calling Berlin #1 "loose cannon" in the context of it being a liability. We should all be so lucky to have more of them rolling around on deck, no?
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
I think it's actually pretty freakin' great, for what it is, which is not my usual thing these days. Am I just a n00b who must be sk00led?
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
Oh no, the sound quality on that Slipknot live CD is totally the suck. It's amazing that those guys haven't figured otu a way to properly communicate the torrid live show, either on this CD or the handful of lackluster DVDs that preceded it.
― ng-unit, Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
no weekend warrior, back to work on monday from playing local gigs and pretending going on here.
unfortunately, thats so foreign to listeners now that they can rarely recognize it when it's happening
kind of like stepping in craptoo many people prefer clean sneakers these days
― angie plasty, Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 11 November 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)
You mean they LIVE totally half-assed, too? (I actually did like a Black Halos single once, though. See above, somewhere.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 11 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
back to work on monday from playing local gigs and pretending going on here.
Specifically, who's pretending? If you mean people who don't have the record budget to have a CD in stores and tour but still struggling to put out hard rock and metal, then I hear a lot of that and it's often better than the work of those, I guess, who are not pretending.
Anyway, in the good and cheap impulse by is the remaster of Triumph's first, In the Beginning. Nine ninety nine, cash money! Before they decided to go AOR or something and went soft, sounds like Moxy or Rush with more rock and roll from the first album, plus some Zeppelin and Hendrix plagiarisms thrown in to juice things along. Made in '76 but totally sounded like it could be '75. That's a joke.
And the new Ten Years After called Now which isn't TYA but everyone minus Alvin Lee plus a replacement guitarist, which makes it the Joe Gooch Band. Actually way heavier than almost the entire TYA catalog, lotsa classic rock and guy does modern non-classic Yngvie metal guitar shred, so he sometimes sounds like he's putting the band on a track to fusion. But then Churchill's Hammond crunch drags them back into the 70's and more people should use Hammond's, lemme tell ya, it makes them sound like Uriah Heep and Argent.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 11 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
And JPT Scare Band's Echoes of the Everland just kills. Along with Jamm Vapours and Rum Rum Daddy and everything in a huge box set they sent me.
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 11 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
Am also liking the (debut I think) album by the Sword (from I think Austin). Similar early-Sabbath-fancied-up-some-but-retaining-the-crunch aesthetic as Early Man, sounds like.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
>First song on tape played over PA, after the bleh (despite an okay cover of Merle's "Working Man") set by Tracy Byrd or Tracy Lawrence or whoever the hell he was, to lead into Montgomery Gentry's great (and to me, amazingly good humored and smiley) Veteran's Day night set at BB King's last night: "Cum On Feel the Noize" by Slade. Last song on tape (the one they entered to): "The Boys are Back in Town" by Thin Lizzy. In between: "Working for the Weekend," "Carry on My Wayward Son," I forget what else. Songs they covered during their set: CCR "Midnight Special," Dave Edmunds "I Hear You Knocking," ZZ Top "Just Got Paid" (which made me especially happy, since ZZ didn't do it in their great set at the Beacon Theatre the night before). In attendance: Caramanica, Sanneh, Breihan, Eddy, though the first two left before the set was over (Sanneh to go see Okkervill River.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
http://www.popmatters.com/music/features/music-in-me/begrand-051108.shtml
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 12 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)
Exhibit A:
http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/01/6d/31_1_b.JPG
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 13 November 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 November 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
Link:http://digbig.com/4fgww
It should be fairly easy to spot the metal releases.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)
http://rateyourmusic.com/top_albums/b1_is_2000_and_b2_is_2004_and_stop_is_1000
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
http://www.metalbite.com/toprank.asp
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)
2005 albums by Bloodbath, Kreator and Mercenary also made the all-time list...
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)
Chronicles of Chaoshttp://www.chroniclesofchaos.com/
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
― ng, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
1ucy Hurst (Beggars/Matador) [1ucyhurst@beggar5.com] (googleproofed by mods)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)
Lou Barlow also did it on his solo disc this year, and it was either excellent or knife-sharpeningly horrible, depending on how you feel about Lou Barlow
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)
http://www.metalmaniacs.com/content.cfm?ID=2118
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What significant 2005 Metal releases have they left out?
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)
1 ulver - blood inside
2 high on fire - blessed black wings
3 transistor transistor - erase all name and likeness
4 primordial - the gathering wilderness
5 raging speedhorn - how the great have fallen
6 gospel - the moon is a dead world
7 kylesa - to walk a middle course
8 mistress - in disgust we trust
9 blood red throne - altered genesis
10 callisto - true nature unfolds
11 immolation - harnessing ruin
12 exmortem - nihilistic contentment
13 circle of dead children - zero comfort margin
14 minsk - out of a center which is neither dead nor alive
15 asguard - dreamslave
16 hate eternal - i, monarch
17 zatokrev - zatokrev
18 demons & wizards - touched by the crimson king
19 you will die - you will die
20 soilwork - stabbing the drama
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I'm an old fart who isn't into nostaglia metal. Not that any of this stuff is really "metal" though, I guess.
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 18 November 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 18 November 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 18 November 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)
This week I'm in a mood for Suicidal Tendencies, so I ordered their first three major label discs from Amazon. I always thought of Controlled By Hatred/Feel Like Shit...Deja Vu as stopgap crap, but it might be my favorite of the three.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Friday, 18 November 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
OPETH - Ghost Reveries (Roadrunner)EXODUS - Shovel Headed Kill Machine (Nuclear Blast)BYZANTINE - And They Shall Take Up Serpents (Prosthetic)NAPALM DEATH - The Code is Red...Long Live the Code (Century Media)ABORTED - Archaic Abbatoir (Olympic)SUNN0))) - Black One (Southern Lord)OBITUARY - Frozen in Time (Roadrunner)ENSLAVED - Isa (Candlelight)KREATOR - Enemy of God (SPV)THE ACCUSED - Oh Martha! (Condar)
If BEHIND ENEMY LINES - The Global Cannibal came out in 2005, I'll eat that, too.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Friday, 18 November 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)
From the Tumult site:
A dream come true. japan's mighty bathtub shitter on tUMULt. i nearly pass out every time i think about it. this is our first ever xmas record, and we tried our very best to get it done in time for this december, cuz as we all know, it's just not christmas without bathtub shitter. unfortunately you are just gonna have to wait until next year. at least you'll have something to look forward to other than coal in your stocking and a new sweater.
====
I was looking over the tumult site and it's chockful of rekkids in which the concept and descriptions are fascinating. My favorites were Solar Anus, another Jap band -- all Japs bands are totally fucked but in an enjoyable way (I'm fond of Loudness reissues and the "gold" of Guitar Wolf at the same time). And Professor -- that's a great name for a heavy metal act, particularly one with doom imagery.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 19 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 20 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― whatever, Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
Then it looks like tumult and BS got their shit wired after all, so to speak.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 20 November 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)
― eh, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)
I'm listening to Beck, Bogert & Appice tonight.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)
You should hear the Live in Japan album. They sound a lot more like Cactus in concert with Beck sub'd for McCarty.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 24 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
It's on my Amazon wish list.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, they've gone overboard with those layered vocal harmonies. I'm hearing a really strong Cheap Trick influence this time around, compared to the last one, which smacked of UFO at times.
They tried way too hard, as the second half just drags...they're at their best doing the riff rock as the title track proves, not those little twee numbers. I did get a kick out of the chorus in "Knockers" ("I love what you've done with your hair").
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)
reencarnacion's 888 metal reissue is pretty nice, too, super crude 1987 colombian thrash with a both love for satan and hate for america ("funeral del norte!").
someone needs to reissue the demolition hammer albums.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)
What was supposed to be the simple task of reviewing the Rough Guide book blew up into something bigger, as I decided to finish reading a couple academic books on metal I had gathering dust for literally 12 years, and the Lords Of Chaos book on black metal. Of course I was compelled to make a new list of Top 200 Metal albums while I was at it. I've listened to nothing but metal for the past two months, which I don't think I've ever done before.
fastnbulbous.com
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)
― dur ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and after some ten months, I've finally realised the greatness that is Immolation's Harnessing Ruin. "Dead to Me" did it...holy crap that song, for lack of better terms, fucking slays.
(though Nile still edges out Immolation and Hate Eternal on my 2005 list)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)
1 pelican - the fire in our throats will beckon the thaw
2 opeth - ghost reveries
3 the red chord - clients
4 withered - memento mori
5 meshuggah - catch 33
6 trivium - ascendancy
7 torche - torche
8 darkest hour - undoing ruin
9 jesu - jesu
10 napalm death - the code is red...long live the code
11 enslaved - isa
12 neuraxis - trilateral progression
13 a life once lost - hunter
14 god forbid - IV: constitution of treason
15 gospel - the moon is a dead world
16 ulver - blood inside
17 xasthur - to violate the oblivious
18 transistor transistor - erase all name and likeness
19 between the buried and me - alaska
20 every time i die - gutter phenomenon
21 strapping young lad - alien
22 kylesa - to walk a middle course
23 nile - annihilation of the wicked
24 nevermore - this godless endeavor
25 the mars volta - frances the mute
26 horse the band - the mechanical hand
27 mouth of the architect - time and withering
28 confessor - unraveled
29 queens of the stone age - lullabies to paralyze
30 witchcraft - firewood
31 high on fire - blessed black wings
32 hate eternal - i, monarch
33 cipher - children of god's fire
34 arsis - a diamond for disease
35 twilight - twilight
36 buried inside - chronoclast
37 earth - hex: or printing in the infernal method
38 deathspell omega - kenose
39 chimaira - chimaira
40 most precious blood - merciless
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
the guy who runs Tumult also owns Aquarius
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)
also, fuck, why do I even bother voting...one of the ones I voted for made the top ten, and four total made the top 40
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I guessed. Which explains why a lot of the catalog appeals to the ridiculous. I had really great expectations of Hammers of Misfortune's "August Engine." Tried a couple of times, couldn't get through it. Going to keep trying a few more this week. The reviews and descriptions are always way way more interesting than the records, describing things that don't sound to be on the CDs.
Bronx Casket Co.'s take on "Free Bird" is a lock for somewhere in my P&J singles picks.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)
Very nice to see Torche place that high, though.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 1 December 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)
I gotta listen to that Torche album this weekend. Plus, I'm reviewing Earthride's latest for Jess - how good you think it is depends on how sad you were when Spirit Caravan broke up. I was very sad, so I like it a lot. Really good organ fills on "Dirtnap."
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
I still own 2 or 3 of the albums on that Decibel list. (If I had more energy, I'd put together a metal top 10 or 20 for the year, but I don't. Same with a jazz one for the jazz thread. There definitely were 30 or 40 metal CDs & 30 or 40 jazz CDs I kept in 2005, probably more. I keep tabs on my country top 10 all year long, since I know I'll be getting a Nasvhille Scene ballot, but nobody asks me to vote in any jazz or metal polls so devising a list would be too much work.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
The couple times I tried listening to Strapping Young Lad I couldn't figure out what was supposed to be good about them, so I'm with Phil.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
===But if it's humor you desire with your guitar music, it's impossible to surpass the tyrannical metalzine-spurt of the sales sticker for Devin Townsend's Strapping Young Lad. "Like sticking your head in the jet nozzle of a Stealth bomber . . . like a Muhammed Ali punch to the stomach . . . the sound of a riot . . . language comes cheap with SYL . . . the Tartoor should be beaten with a shoe . . . " OK, so I made the last one up, but realistically, it fits.
SYL (Century Media) is a three-card monte, higgledly-piggledy technical admixture of loud abrasives and screaming, used to cover up the inability of the head guy to write one goddamn riff on guitar that you won't forget after five seconds. It's best to think of Strapping Young Lad records as corrupt tea taxes applied to the world of indie-metal, a cost that must be borne to produce other acts cheaply. ===
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I've been enjoying the Rosetta album the same way, too. Though I don't know how many times I'll take the time to play both discs at once like you're supposed to. It's a cool idea, though...Zaireeka for metalheads, with half the hassle.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
naw he just works there.
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
Also don't get Demericous (sp?) Perhaps this means I am a grump.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
neurosis did this years ago. not that i ever listened to that one the way you were supposed to either.
kayo dot has been ruling me cuz i am the maudlin of the well fanboy to beat the band.
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
i like track #2 ("he's a rat") on the new bad wizard CD *sky high*. rest of the album? not so much, i don't think. there's also some long dull spacey thing in the middle where they seem to be trying to go freak-folk or something. but they somehow never sound chunky enough.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
Bad Wizard have a new one? I liked the debut a bunch - seemed like they started out ripping off the MC5 and ended up being better than them - but the second one sucked. Worst cover art of the year it came out, too. I'll probably ignore it unless it falls into my lap.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), November 12th, 2005.
Is there a song called 'Ebethron' on that? I got it from a friend, and there are so many little 'Sword(s)' groups around, I haven't been able to track it.
― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
It's great. They dropped the funky Mr. Bunglisms and embraced home turf Italian soundtrack heros. Super smooth with constant change-ups. DEP will sound like this in 8 years when they mature or do solo albums.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Friday, 2 December 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
I shall be seeing HoF and Mastodon tonight in Glasgow.Both bands were great when I saw them earlier in the year.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
I wish I could make the Dec 17th Sunn show, but I'll have to just catch them in Philly w/o Malefic (on account of the show being in a church!)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)
― safsd (Mr_Deeds), Monday, 5 December 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Monday, 5 December 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)
new TNT album is good though (and not just the louie armstong cover).
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 December 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
(And the stoner metal intention impression may or may not have come from the marshall stack on the cover of the CD. i should have known better. marshall stacks are the truckers hats of CD covers by now.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 December 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
The Muggs -- terrible name, Detroit band that doesn't sound at like Detroit. Yay!!!! Sounds like mid-70's crunching white boy blooz raunch. Lots of guitar, weedy lead voice by guitarist. Drummer can play a good shuffle and therefore the band has groove. One of the tunes, a good one, recycles ZZ Top's "everybody get high high high" signature from "Thunderbird."
Fat Nancy Pure American Muscle, Baby Terrible name and terrible album title obscure quality. Dude from Circus of Power, who has been trying to make a fair to really good biker rock album for close to two decades, finally succeeds, all COP stuff being fit only for the trash. Lots of tuneful hard rock sung by a halfway decent vocalist.
Hognose Longhandle Stoner band from Texas who manage not to totally stink up the place by playing too slow. The best stuff is short form -- which is more than half -- and if you edit out the seven minute bubbling distortion dirges (something that can be done with most of the stoner metal records I've had in the last two year, thereby making them !new and improved!), it rocks. Usual stoner-type he-man going out to beat the dog behind the shed and then beat the wife after half a bottle of JD shit goddamn I'm a motherfuckin' Texas man vocals. They really should think up a new style and lose that. Claim to sound like ZZ Top but don't at all which doesn't detract from the enjoyable tunes.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)
Am listening to Confessor. I take back everything bad I ever said about Candlelight. Between this and Bronx Casket Co., they're good for a year. Have been putting off listening to Burst and In Flames. The packet of press that came with both was too much. Can't give 'em a fair shake until the spurting trash is out of my head.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 Æ’uyÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
He rocks in a first album by Stray Dog with Snuffy Walden before he went "thirtysomething" or "twentysomething" whatever that old show was called kind of way, which is pretty good. "Rolling B-side Blues" is one of the best tunes on the disc. So is the other with "Blues" in the title. I can do without the seven-minute thing at the end but since it's at the finish, you can lift the laser.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)
Cover of "Whiplash" is fair. Cover of Tom Waits' "The World Died Screaming" is done as straight as a band of this type can manage andturns out astonishingly good, easily the best tune on the CD. Plus it shows some love for blues and a faint grasp of melody.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 11 December 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)
In it's second week of release The Darkness album has slipped to no 34 in the UK album charts. Down from it's 1st week entry of 11.
So the 'peoples band' can't blame the critics for 'the people' ignoring it if the album has had positive reviews.Maybe a big hit single in 2006 will help it climb back up.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)
Their recent album In Disgust We Trust wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either. The two cover tunes you cite make me wanna hear the one you're talking about. Iron Monkey's first EP was okay if you really really really liked Eyehategod, but the cover art was better than the music, and by the time they got around to putting out their second album, with horrible cartoon cover art, it was all over. I did like the title of their third disc, though - We've Learned Nothing.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)
The Rolling Stone review was essentially a pan with an olive twig or two thrown in. I still haven't heard it. Am unlikely to. I'm done with requesting promos of it. I carried enough of Darkness's water two years ago.
I good article could be written on the intersection of two facts: (1) Everyone who reviews the Darkness grabs their strong link to the sound of classic '70's metal and hard rock. The Darkness live or die by it. (2) In contrast with the classic '70's metal and hard rock bands they draw from, they took nothing from the models of music biz success those bands vigorously practiced. In other words, you could have a career if you releases at least one and often more than one album a year for a regular period.
Now perhaps The Darkness felt it didn't have to do that because it was a big deal in England. But every BIG band in the genre from the UK from their roots time DID adhere to a fast release schedule. Status Quo and Slade immediately come to mind. UFO certainly released many, many records. None of these bands let the grass grow under their feet. Neither did Queen. No one did. Period.
So what was and is in their heads? They've made their job impossible in the States without a breakthru hit on video in 2006. Goofs.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
I luvved that thing! What's not to like?
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)
The dichotomy between the Darkness's overtly 70s sound and their overtly 2000s (and, make no mistake, label-mandated) production rate is interesting, and I agree it could be part of their downfall. (The other big part is that they're yet another UK band that thinks being the hype-toys of the UK press means something - anything - in America.) I would love it if bands hewed to the work ethic of Ted Nugent in his prime - five studio albums and a double live disc between 1975 and 1980. But the big labels want an album every 2-4 years from the acts they're pumping the hardest. Shit, look at what happened to Prince - WB pretty much ordered him to shove the vast majority of his output back on the shelf.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, I agree, Phil. It's just damn foolish. Since audiences are more fickle now and have a lot more to divert them, you just kill yourself by not keeping in front of people -- good, bad or indifferent. It's no more hard now to produce a hard rock album than it was in 1975. Technology and experience has actually made it magnitudes easier.
I fail to understand the artificial barriers to publishing combined with the let's-sit-on-our-asses-for-a-good-long-while practice of The Darkness. Without a substantial miraculous hit, they're in for a rude months-long shock when they get back here to tour. Keep it up, and in another year, they'll be lucky to be booked in the standard metro-dives in ten of the biggest cities.
In other matters, Saxon had been skedded to play an Allentown metro-dive and the show fell through. Struck down by US policy in the war on terror and inability to get past the border for unspecified flimsy reasons. Or maybe they just didn't really want to come. Anyway, Exodus and Three Inches of Blood had been there a week or so prior, my colleague tells me, and that show was a good one.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)
I'm starting to have the same worries w/r/t Rammstein. I got their new album last week, and it's fantastic, stronger than its predecessor which had two or three videos that got brief MTV attention (on Headbangers' Ball anyway), but it doesn't have a US release date yet as far as I know, and they haven't toured the US since about 2001 or 2002, when they were supporting Korn and Limp Bizkit on one of the early Anger Management runs. I wonder if their label has decided not to bother trying to get them any bigger in America than they were a few years ago. If so, that'd be a damn shame.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)
I like the album quite a bit. I was one of the few who liked Soundtrack in 2004, but the new one sounds considerably better, more dual guitar stuff, which I'm always a sucker for.
― a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)
Now, amazingly, I've had an opp to listen to The Darkness. The mark of Roy Thomas Baker is strong upon it. They or someone must've dragged him out of retirement with the promise that he could go to town. Anyway, I'm still with the conviction they've waited too long but the title cut and "Knockers" right off the bat give the label things to work. The title cut is slightly better -- it has a wonderful chorus hook -- and a sitar break in it not played by a sitar, but probably by a Variax guitar. It's a guitar with a computer in it that emulates vintage instruments, and it works, and it has sitar algorithms in it, that sound just like what is on the Darkenss LP. I know 'cuz I have one. For the Darkness, it sounds like a sitar but played like a metal guitarist would play, which is what you get when a guitarist does that with a Variax. Trivial, but it made me laugh.
Also the "Knockers" refrain, "I like what you've done with your hair" and rhyming "busty" with "I'm rusty." I suspect the humor will be lost on most of the potential US audience.
So there's a chance.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
Speaking of dance-industrial, can anybody explain by what logic Nine Inch Nails get classified as "hard rock" but Rammstein and Ministry get nominated as "metal" by the Grammy nominees? ....Well, I guess Ministry and Rammstein *are* more metal; I never gave a shit about NIN and never will, and I haven't made it through a Ministry album in at least a decade, and never even knew Rammstein (who I like) put out a new album this year, so big whoop. But all three of those bands, I'd think, have more in common with *each other* than with the other respective bands in their categories (Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, System of a Down, Robert Plant in hard rock; Mudvayne, Shadows Fall, Slipknot in metal). Seems almost arbitrary. Which maybe it is. (I'd never call System of a Down "hard rock" either, but whatever. By now, they probably belong in the world music category. Just kidding.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
The way the Grammys work, aren't they nominated for something off Reise, Reise anyway?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2006/twilight.aspx
plus, one cool thing about the newly revamped decibel site is you get a full archive of old reviews. read all about how much i liked that Ed Gein album for free!
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews.aspx
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
I finally broke down and bought that double vinyl Xasthur album that has been staring at me at the record store. That and a Frost 7 inch on Southern Lord. Nekro, Tru, whatever, I am a sucker for that shoegazer BM. The record store dudes are heading up to Boston to see Malefic perform with SUNN(((((())))))))))))****&&, but I am not cuz i am lame(((())))))
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 16 December 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)
EZO, as far as I knew them, had been a Gene Simmons import job. Saw them live wherein they dressed up as weird combo of Kabuki and geishas. They were a little arty and totally hookless but very rhythmic and pounding and the audience, average metal fans in some dirtbag venue in the Lehigh Valley, were left silent. My drummer liked them because they invited him backstage after the set and turned out to be hard to understand but warmly hospitable for a place that had been totally inhospitable to them.
So Loudness transforms into this relentless and merciless pounding act with a raw screaming singer. The change in style accidentally (or maybe not) takes them into rhythmic grind. The main man remains the guitarist, Takasaki, who destroys, which sets them apart from everyone else since he has a tendency to go between Yngwie Euro-shred to bluesy fills and nasty standard hard rock comping. A lot of the operatic style they were known for early on is also subdued and these albums -- Heavy Metal Hippies and Loudness -- are uniformly good, even excellent in some parts.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 17 December 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
"...went to Philly for the show at the church. It was CRAZY. We got in and these two monk-looking duded opened the door and the entire church was filled with smoke and there was just this incredible DRONE vibrating throughout the whole place. Malefic sang...he's a strange dude. It was cool."
My mission at the roadrunner office party at nokia the other night was to school europeans that SUNN does not rhyme with SANYO. "Oh, it's like an emoticon" said the German. Yes.
The roadrunner party was a hell of a good party, and a fun show. Glen Benton wore his full iron face mask, and two of the best speed metal guitarists ever created, Andreas Kisser and Jeff Waters, dueled on "Curse of the Pharoahs." And the Trivium guys shredded impressively in unison on two of Dimebag's guitars on loan. Greatest office party ever.
Is there already a Loudness - Disillusion Japanese vocals version vs. English vocals version thread?
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
Brazil's Marquee Records has just re-released the second album from legendary Canadian thrashers SACRIFICE, entitled "Forward to Termination". It comes as a double CD in a limited-edition hand-numbered slipcase and contains a massive booklet with liner notes by Laurent Ramadier, live pictures and personal comments by Joe Rico (guitar), Rob Urbinati (guitar, vocals), Scott Watts (bass) and Gus Pynn (drums). The reissue features 42 songs in total, all remastered from the originals by Sidney Sohn (NASTY SAVAGE, IRON ANGEL). The complete track listing is as follows:
Disc 1:
"Forward to Termination"
01. Forward to Termination02. Terror Strikes03. Re-Animation04. Afterlife05. Flames of Armageddon06. The Entity07. Forever Enslaved08. Cyanide09. Light of the End10. Pyrokinesis
"FTT" Demo
11. Forward to Termination12. Pyrokinesis13. Cyanide14. Forever Enslaved15. Afterlife16. Possession
Live Tracks (Various '87/'89)
17. The Exorcism18. In Defiance19. Afterlife20. Flames of Armageddon21. Pyrokinesis
Disc 2:
Live In Kitchener, Ontario, Canada (July 25, 1986)
01. Forward to Termination02. Sacrifice03. Homicidal Breath04. Infernal Visions05. Decapitation06. Cyanide07. Afterlife08. Possession09. Pyrokinesis10. Necronomicon11. Beyond Death
Live In Rochester, NY (December 11, 1988)
12. Pyrokinesis13. Sacrifice14. Flames of Armageddon15. Lost through Time16. Storm in the Silence17. The Entity18. Re-animation
Live at Iloiko’s in Toronto, Canada (January 29, 1987)
19. Terror Strikes20. Forever Enslaved21. Re-animation
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)
Through a distortion pedal.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)
greatness!!! they did a really nice job on the torment in fire reissue.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)
Kayo Dot reminds me of a cool, underloved mid-90s Cargo Records band called Creedle.
The Scum supergroup record is a near-miss, but I'm glad I have it.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)
eMusic has some of the Ted Nugent catalog, the stuff not owned by the big label which made him a star. And I'd go into a lot of it but Nugent from the 80's was definitely worth the download and burn. St. Holmes came back to the fold and Nuge promised a returned to the sound of Ted Nugent but he did the production himself which pretty much ensured it wouldn't quite get there. But some of it does and the last two numbers, "Let's Rock Tonight" and "Tailgunner" which make up about ten minutes, are excellent recreations of the style and vibe, pretty much ignored by everyone when the record came out.
I was suprised because I'd ignored it in favor of Little Miss Dangerous which was Ted thinking he was going to be a Tv or movie star and up there with the Miami Vicers. I still like that, it's the oddest and most experimental (if Ted could ever be said to be "experimenting") sounding record in his catalog. But I recommend Nugent to longtime fans.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 19 December 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)
i got that mail too and really, that's a strange deal. They're not metal at all, maybe they've changed there style to meth-rock (as in metal combined with mathrock hah)
― rizzxxx, Monday, 19 December 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drg700/g773/g77390thctt.jpg
― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
http://www.popmatters.com/columns/begrand/051219.shtml
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)
― ng-unit, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)
― a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)
AS LONG AS THIS AND MORTENSENS HAVE NOT BEEN HANDLED TORE TOIVICCO ASKS UN SEND UN PEACE CORPS TO DENMARK:I ASK UNITED NATIONS TO SEND UN PEACE CORPS TO DENMARK TO QUARANTEE HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUALITY FOR IMMIGRANTS AND MAKE LIFE SAFE HERE FOR IMMIGRANTS AND MUSLIMS.
DANISH PEOPLE DOESN´T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT IMMIGRANTS SHOULD HAVE SAME RIGHTS AS ANYONE ELSE.I CALL THIS DANSKCRIMINATION-IF IMMIGRANT COMPLAINS ABOUT CRIMES DONE TO HIM, DANISH PEOPLE MAY LAUGH, OR ONLY STATE THAT THATS NOT A CRIME,OR WE CAN´T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS HOW DANISH PEOPLE HAVE PROVOKED MUSLIMS BY USING PICTURES OF MOHAMMED(=BLASHEMY OF ISLAM).
I HAVE IN MY OPEN LETTER TO SVALI WRITTEN ABOUT MY SITUATION IN DENMARK,AND IT´S BASICLY THAT OFFICIALS ARE NOT INTERESTED TO HANDLE MATTERS THEY SHOULD,SO I DON´T GET ANY SERVICE FROM DANISH OFFICIALS, EXCEPT THOSE THINGS THEY CANNOT DENY FROM ME (BEING TO OBVIOUS RACISM).I HOPE THAT JESUS HELPS ME TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND GIVES ME CHANCE TO GET MY LOVED ONES IN DENMARK BACK TO ME.AND STOP THIS POSSIBLE CRIME OF "ILLUMINATI"-PEOPLE AGAINST ME,IN WHICH THEY HAVE STOPPED ME TO MEET OR SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY CLOSE TO ME,OR WOULD HAVE BEEN UNLESS SEPARATED FROM ME,WITH THE HELP OF OFFICIALS/THEIR CONNECTIONS.BECAUSE OF CRAZY "ILLUMINATI"-CONNECTED PEOPLE(BRØNDBY?)?JESUS LET IT BE CLEARED WHAT IS SITUATION REGARDING MY CHILD AND PERSONS WHOM I LOVE,LET ME GET JUSTICE HAPPEN IN DENMARK,AND LET ME BECOME FREE TO TALK TO THEM AND MEET THEM FREELY.
IMMIGRANTS REPLIES ARE MOSTLY REMOVED FROM DANISH DEBATES(IMMIGRANTS ARE UNDER SURVEILLANCE IN DENMARK?)THESE KIND OF THINGS I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN SOL.DK,JUBII.DK AND LIBERATOR.DK -DEBATES.THIS WOULD BE RACISM OR NAZISM- DANSKCRIMINATION?MY MYMUSIC.DK MESSAGE HAS PROPABLY DISAPPEARED ALSO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER I HAD FINALLY GOTTEN IT ALMOST PERFECT.
Here is part of my letter to SVALI(EX-ILLUMINATI-MEMBER)YESTERDAY 18.2.I GOT FOLLOWED BY 2 MEMBERS FROM PLACE WHERE I USE COMPUTER,AND DSB(DANISH RAILWAYS)INSPECTOR WHOM I COMPLAINED WHEMN I WAS THREATENED BY VIOLENCE,JUST LAUGHED AND ASKED TO CALL POLICE,INSTEAD OF DOING IT HIMSELF.THOUGH SITUATION GOT HANDLED,BUT NOW THOSE PEOPLE,GANGMEMBERS?- ARE AFTER ME?I CANNOT USE INTERNET FREELY,OR BE FREELY IN COPENHAGEN.TODAY ONE OMEMBER FROM INTERNET-PLACE WAS AT STATION WHICH I USE WHEN I GO TO COPENHAGEN.HE HAS EARLIER DISTURBED ME IN THAT INTERNET CAFE.ONE OF THOSE EPOPLE IS PROPABLE PET,OR SOMEKIND OF OFIICIAL CONECTED PERSON(DANISH).I GUESS I AM UNDER CONTROL, OR ALSO MY INTERNET -USE.SOMEOONE WAS STANDING SECRETLY BEHINSD ME YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS USING COMPUTER.THIS IS ONLY ONE DAYS HAPPENINGS, BUT THIS KIND OF THINGS HAPPENS ALMOST EVERYDAY, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS NO VIOLENCE(ESPECIALLY IF I ALWAYS AVOI! D it="GO" ÁWAY).I GUESS IT´S POSSIBLE THEY TRY TO MAKE ME SOMETHING STUPID,GET ANGRY,VIOLENT,ETC.SO THAT THEY CAN JUST DESTROY ME.THIS MAY BE ALSO A WAY TO STOP ME SEEING PEOPLE IN COPENHAGEN,BECAUSE THIS WEEK WAS A WINTER-HOLIDAY IN DENMARK, AND THEREFORE I COULD HAVE MET SOME PEOPLE I CANNOT NORMALLY EVER MEET IN COPENHAGEN, SO NOW I AM STOPPED TO GO TO COPENHAGEN CITY.THIS WOULD FIT ILLUMINATI-THEORY,ILLUMINATI BEING BEHIND THIS DISCRIMINATION AND CONTROL OF MY LIFE HERE.I GUESS THIS CAN BE DANISH OR EVEN INTERNATIONAL ILLUMINATI/FREEMASON-MAFIA.IN DENMARK IS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?INSPECTOR YESTERDAY DIDN´T GAVE HIS NAME.
Things like what happened 10.3.(BROENDBY STRAND) must be stopped.AM I UNDER SURVEILLANCE IN DENMARK?
F.EX. NOW THERE HAS BEEN GANGS IN SAME BUSSES I AM USING,AND THIS IS NOT NORMAL.BY USING MOBILES F.EX. DANISH FREE MASONS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS MAY MOBILIZE 10000-100000 PEOPLE IN COPENHAGEN AREA.IF THEY USE THIS AGAINST ME I BEING ALONE CANNOT DO ANYTHING.THEREFORE I AM AFRAID TO MOVE IN DENMARK.
DANSKCRIMINATION:"LIVING IN DENMARK IS A PARTY FOR DANISH PEOPLE BUT MADE A NIGHTMARE FOR IMMIGRANTS"
Have I been under surveillance IN DENMARK,AND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP ME OR INVESTIGATE IT?IF THIS IS THE CASE,I THEREFORE ASK COMPENSATION OF AT LEAST 14 MILLION US DOLLARS,AND THAT EVERYTHING IS MADE GOOD AGAIN.OTHERWISE I HAVE NO LIFE IN DENMARK,AND WE HAVE DISCRIMINATION OR PERSECUTION HERE?AND UN SHOULD SET SANCTIONS TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION.______________NOTES(DON´TAKE THESE opinions SERIOUSLY if you feel bad about them:)_I WANT TO STATE THAT MOST OF COLOURED IMMIGRANTS IN DENMARK ARE NOT PROB-LEM AND THEY ARE PART OF NORMAL LIFE IN DENMARK.I THINK MOST PROBLEMS IN DENMARK ARE CAUSED BY DF-PARTYS STATEMENTS AGAINST IMMIGRANTS AND JP-NEWSPAPERS MOHAMMED-DRAWINGS,AND THESE THINGS MAY BE MEANT TO IRRITATE MUSLIMS IN DENMARK ,AND WORLDWIDE?-I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I ACCEPT ALL MUSLIMS AND RELIGIONS ,UNLESS THEY ACTIVELY DO CRIMES(SATANISM?)AND I THINK THAT MOST CHRISTIANS ACCEPT MUSLIMS IN DENMARK,AND THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PROBLEMS BETWEEN THESE 2 RELIGIONS.-ALSO IN YUGOSLAVIA MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS HAD LIVED IN PEACE LONG TIME,BUT WHEN RADOVAN KARADZIC CAME IN TO POWER,THERE STARTED TO BE RACE HATE-PROPAGANDA.-IT´S ALSO SAID THAT THERE WOULDN´T BE ANY RIOTS IN GHETTOS IN USA, UNLESS MEDIA WOULDN´T CREATE THEM.*****THERE HAS BEEN MUSLIM RAGE TOWARDS DENMARK.ANYWAY IT´S STRANGE THAT MUSLIMS HAVE NOT RAGED AGAINST RADOVAN KARADZIC(UNDER HIS REGIME THERE WERE about 100000-200000 MUSLIMS KILLED AND ABOUT 40000 MUSLIM WOMEN RAPED IN SERBIA.)HAS MEDIA SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS-IS MEDIA MANIPULATING OPINIONS OF MASSES?_-----MOST OF MY WRITINGS MAY FEEL STRANGE TO READERS WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE ABOUT OCCULT OR SATANIC GROUPS, BUT THOSE ONES WHO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS MAY KNOW EVERYTHING TO BE TRUE.(OF COURSE I CAN BE WRONG.I HOPE I WE-RE...)OF COURSE IT´S NOT EASY TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS ,BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDDEN.*****_DANISH ILLUMINATI SYSTEM?:IMMIGRANT GANGS HANDLE "PROBLEMS",AND POLICE IGNORES?NØRREBRO IS KEPT FREE AREA FOR IMMIGRANT GANGS,CHRISTIANIA FOR DRUG DEALING(HELLS AN-GELS/BANDIDOS?)POLICE IS STATISFIED WHEN CRIMINALS KEEP PEOPLE UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND THEY DO NOTHING TO STOP THIS?POLICE STANDS AND ALLOWS ATTACKERS WALK FREE?*****DANSKCRIMINATION:ONE WAY HOW DENMARK STOPS INTEGRATION IS TO STOP IMMIGRANTS FROM CHATTING AND DEBATTING?*****POST DANMARK STOPS LETTERS GOING OUT FROM DENMARK?IT´S NOT POSSIBLE TO GET DATA FREELY OUT FROM DENMARK? Maybe not even e-mails?-----TORE TOIVICCO asks Denmark to apologize :STASI,hk,-----IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN WITH ME AT LEAST ONE WEEKS TIME IN DENMARK, HE WOULD PROPABLY HAD UNDERSTOOD WHAT MY SITUATION IS.BUT WITHOUT BEING WITH ME,IT´S MAYBE IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND.-----DANSKCRIMINATION:DANISH NEWSPAPER TESTED HOW DANISH OFFICES ARE ANSWERING TO IMMIGRANTS WHO CALLED AND WANTED TO RENT AN APARTMENT.ANSWERS PROVED THAT DANISH PEOPLE TOLD IMMIGRANTS MUCH LONGER WAITING TIME THAN TO DANISH CALLERS.*****_Illuminati business denmark?:I guess it can be that Illuminati-elite in Denmark GETS money FROM INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MADE BY "ILLUMINATI-IMMIGRANTS/ ILLUMINATI ORGANIZATIONS/FIRMS-BUSINESSES".DRUG TRADE?SEX?*****"IMMIGRANTS MAY NOT BE INTEGRATED INTO DANISH SOCIETY.THEY MAY NOT BECOME PART OF DANISH SOCIETY."*****DANISH IMAM AKKARI MADE A JOKE ABOUT KILLING A PRIME MINISTER,WHILE AKKARI WAS TALKING WITH SOME OF HIS MUSLIM FRIENDS.THIS WAS SECRETLY TAPED,AND HE HAD TO MOVE OUT FROM DENMARK.*****DANISH ATTITUDE?:"IT´S A CRIME TO LIVE IN DENMARK IF YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT."*****______________________________SAID BY CIA-AGENT LEE HARVEY OSWALD(USA,1963) and CITIZEN TORE TOIVICCO(Denmark,2005): " I do request someone to come forward to give me legal assistance. 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