― john'n'chicago, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
BILLY DON BURNS DEANNA CARTERSHELLY FAIRCHILD SHOOTER JENNINGSMIRANDA LAMBERTMAGNOLIA ELECTRIC CO. TIM MCGRAW “Drugs Or Jesus” singleELIZABETH MCQUEEN AND THE FIREBRANDS MARY PRANKSTER LEANN RIMES (not nearly as good as her previous disco one, though)SAWYER BROWN WITH ROBERT RANDOLPH “Mission Temple Fireworks Stand” singleDALLAS WAYNEWIDE RIGHT - cover of "The Pill" by Loretta Lynn on their imminent but not otherwise country second album LEANN WOMACK*The Little Darlin Sound of Should Have Been Hits* reissue comp
but the new Kathleen Edwards album is a complete bore (and i'd liked her first one a couple years ago okay)
― chuck, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 5 February 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Sunday, 6 February 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link
VH1 Country has been playing a lot of some dude's version of Hank Jr.'s "It Takes a Whole Lot of Liquor to Like Her," anyone have any ideas who this big Bubba Sparxxx lookalike is, and is it from this year or not?
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 6 February 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Sunday, 6 February 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
I still didn't hear the new Kenny Chesney album. I'm sure I'll probably like it when I do, though everybody saying how "quiet" and "intropective" it is isn't as encouraging as Kenny saying on CMT that he's been listening mainly to Bob Marley and Jackson Browne records on his boat lately. I was kinda hoping that "Island Boy" was gonna be a come-out-of-the-closet song, maybe even an answer to the old Elton John hit, but somebody would've said something by now if it actually was, right? (Other bad news for gay marriage in Nashville fans: Big Kenny apparently got married to a woman last weekend. Though Kandia Crazy Horse swears that "Little Kenny" is the guy who inspires more rumors down there. Jon Caramanica has said that the male bonding in the backstage tiki bar on Kenny's last tour was quite impressive as well.)
This weekend, the HACIENDA BROTHES album kicked in for me -- somebody at Koch is apparently making a concerted effort to get me to finally like alt-country, and they're doing a real good job. (Who knows, maybe they have Dwight Yoakam doing A&R. I can totally see him loving those new CDs by the Hacienda Bros and Dallas Wayne -- who is from Springfield MO not Dallas by the way, and whose last album on Hightone was really good too, and whose new album's title track concerns a stalker fan who winds up murdering said fan's idol at the surprise ending -- not to mention he'd love all that Little Darlin stuff Koch has been reissuing lately. I really liked the Groovy Joe Poovey collection they put together last fall. Other people would maybe like their new Johnny Paycheck and Jeanie C Riley reissues more than I do. The *Should Have Been Hits* comp I mention above has five or six pretty great tracks, and 14 or 15 other ones frequently endearing in their catchy ineptness.)
One last thing: If I hadn't let *Black Shelton's Barn and Grill* sit around til early January without listening to it, it easily would have made my 2004 country top ten. My favorite track, even more than "Some Beach," is probably "What's On My Mind." And okay, this is *really* stupid -- only in the past week did it occur to me that Blake Shelton (who kinda drawls like John Anderson, to my ears) and Ricky Van Shelton are not the same person! For weeks I kept thinking "Didn't he used to be totally boring and puritan? When did he suddenly get good??", and now it's clear that they are two different people. So. Does anybody know whether Blake's previous albums are worth looking around for?
― chuck, Monday, 7 February 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Q. Mellonfarmer, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
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― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link
the new Trace Adkins single "Songs About Me" is almost good, I like the concept, but the melody and especially the chorus never seem to get going.
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Everybody just wants to get highSit and watch a perfect world go byWe're all looking for love and meaning in our livesWe follow the roads that lead usTo drugs or Jesus
Out of context, it might as well be Depeche Mode.
― briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
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― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 11 February 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
akron/family (lifeless alt/art-country on m. gira's label): thumbs downer
― chuck, Friday, 11 February 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― briania (briania), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 12 February 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Saturday, 12 February 2005 07:50 (nineteen years ago) link
*You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music* (Columbia/Legacy three disc set).
I am playing the advance now, and (so far) it is amazing.
― chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 14 February 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
well for one thing there are TWO different versions (by charlie and by arthur collins) of "moving day", which holy modal rounders covered on their great first-i-think album, and two (by charlie and by gid tanner & faith norris) of "goodbye booze," which peter stampfel covered sometime later (on *going nowhere fast* with weber, a/k/a/ the best folk album of the '80s, maybe?). also cameo tracks by the north carolina ramblers, floyd county ramblers, highlanders, blue ridge highballers, peerless quartet, virginia string band, the immortal uncle dave macon of course, big chief henry's indian string band, and many more, most of them seemingly doing versions of songs that charlie also did. also two versions of a somewhat offensive ditty called "coon from tennessee," including one by the georgia crackers (is that emmett miller's band? i think it might be, though i dunno if this is him here). and of course charlie's "seet sixteen," which invented bubblegum music since it's about a 16-year-old girl literally fond of chewing gum. is that enough for now? (so who would wind a battle of bands, charlie poole or dock boggs? i have no idea.)
― chuck, Monday, 14 February 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
and he is GOOD rapper, by the way.
― chuck, Friday, 18 February 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 18 February 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 18 February 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link
ITEM: One of the best country singles of the year so far is Intocable's "Aire," currently #1 on the Latin charts, what a great band.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 25 February 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Friday, 25 February 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 25 February 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm listening to Blaine Larsen's autobiographical coming-of-age album right now, too, and he sings really well, especially for a guy who just turned 19.
I'm also kinda liking this guy, Dave Insley, who's very post-honky-tonk, on his latest, called "Call Me Lonesome," which features some truly outré pedal-steel solos. Very well thought-out, formalism for sure, but I find him immensely appealing. Not a great or deep singer. But the tempos are up, the band rocks, and the attention to detail is quite high.
That Elizabeth McQueen album I like...I find her versions of those pubrock classics comparable with the originals, and she sure can sing. She knows the songs are second-hand and funny.
Chuck E. right about that Blake Shelton song "What's on My Mind"--that's the one I got in my head too.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
But I like the record too. I have a big crush on the character from "Katie" but I imagine that's the point...she probably looks like the teenage Deana Carter.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 4 March 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Btw, "excellent" was a bit of an exaggeration above in re: Jan Bell's Maybelles bluegrass band. But much better than competent, for sure...
― chuck, Friday, 4 March 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 4 March 2005 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
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― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 5 March 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Sunday, 6 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 7 March 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 7 March 2005 06:34 (nineteen years ago) link
As for Big Kenny, I could only get through a couple tracks (again) on this morning's drive back to New York from Bucks County. Part of my problem is that nonstop fucking drum machine, which is completely immobile; why the heck didn't he hire a drummer? (Big & Rich work with great ones.) Or better yet, maybe hire somebody who could give the drum machine some funk? (Who does he think he is, the Postal Service?? Har har.) As for the "Trip" song, it turns out to be about *not* going to California (or Colorado, or Kansas), and it is the only track that references Wizard of Oz (more blatantly than anything on *Horse of a Different Color,* actually.) And as everyone knows, Oz never did give nothing to the Tinman that he didn't already have.
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
(A cool drink of water, such a sweet surprise.)
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Monday, 7 March 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
(hank iii does a live version called i put the cunt in country and the dick in dixie whic actually manages to hit the same buttons--so maybe its something else that is annoying me (facial hair and blackberry might be it)
i think that the kenny album is more universal then personal, not spoon river at all, but really really mellow--and i like that, though boston is not a song i like, and i would include the first track and soul of s a sailor as the best ones (though i invoked shania and faith hill instead of alan jackson--wbo is capbale of both great metaphors and a brilliant voice--his latest monday morning church)
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― chuck, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
petty booka have been around forever doing things of this nature, though i don't think they're really punk, they're more of a lounge/exotica thing. they can be excruciatingly boring, but their version of "summer breeze" was rather brilliant. they're playing at sin-e in new york on march 21.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Friday, 11 March 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 12 March 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
1. actually, trish murphy has a lot of sheryl crow in her, i just realized (though it is pretty obvious). probably more sheryl crow than carlene carter. not sure to what extent that will affect my evolving opinion about her; i frequently don't hold shery-crowness against lady country singers (at least not as much as some other people seem to.)
2. the jazzy song toward the end of chesney's album says he reads lots of hemingway; i''d meant to mention that before. this does not feel like a hemingway-reading album to me, though.
3. i enjoy the video where deanna carter dresses up like kurt cobain.
― chuck, Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
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― chuck, Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I do hear the Beatles on some songs. and the bacharach i hear in the non-obvious minor-key melodies. most of the songs don't just go for the jugular, they move around in tricky ways. I love that in pop music. some of it reminds me of Iris Dement's My Life. But My Life really was more of an art-project and much less poppy. I seem to recall Iris getting a little poppier on her album after that, but I didn't think that it worked as well. At least for me. The duet with Delbert was nice though. (I don't own a copy anymore.) I don't know much about Deana's other albums so I don't know if she has always mixed these elements of folk, pop, and country together. What I love about this album is how deep it is. quality-wise, that is. and, what the hell, lyrically too at times. The last 4 songs might be the strongest on the album! Which fits in with the whole conept-album design. She is stronger and wiser by the end of it. The first song is the obvious single. It's catchy top-40 stuff. And the hook: "I wanna be the girl you left me for" is so simple and perfect I can't believe that 400 people haven't come up with it before. Maybe they have. "One Day At A Time" is the most country-radio/CMT ready of the bunch. Plus, it has all those pop-cult pairings that stick in yer head: Singing along to "Jack & Diane", Thelma & Louise,Elvis & Kurt Cobain, Jesus & John Wayne(!). The acoustic guitar in it sounds a lot more alt or contempo folk then country acoustic usually sounds to me though. "Ordinary" has Shania-like rhythms and vocal lines, but Shania would never admit the following: "Oh wouldn't it be scary just being ordinary" because Shania is usually way too busy trying to convince people that she is an actual human being. It has that nice Beatlesesque ending to it too, but nothing that Mutt wouldn't try someday. Nice all the same though. The miracle of a song like "In A Heartbeat" is that it sounds like a song that was built to be oversold. The chorus, the arrangement, the whole thing should be a goopy string-laden bid for hitdom, but it's not! She undersells the vocals and makes it so much more effective by doing so. This is what a good interpreter does of course. They serve the song. But it's rare to see someone not go for the easy knockout punch these days.(in pop and country or country-pop). It makes me like her even more. "She's Good For You" sounds like one of the best Sheryl Crow songs I've ever heard. "Not Another Love Song" is definitely Webb-worthy! I'd like to know if Deana wrote it. I think I threw away any press stuff that came with the cd and the cd I got doesn't have any info. It's so simple and strong. The album is the story of her life, does she write all her own stuff like Iris? "Sunny Day" (and it's funny cuz I'm listening to a Free album right now and as I typed that song title I realized that they were also singing a song called "Sunny Day".) has a great Fleetwood mac/FM radio Cali vibe to it. Love that guitar too. I love the production, her voice, these songs. Just a joy to listen to. It's kinda nice to hear something that just hits you immediately in the pleasure center of your brain. I'll keep my eye out for her other stuff.
-- scott seward (skotro...), February 3rd, 2005. (scott seward)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, it grates--I guess, though, that she's working hard on referencing, period, on this record...getting up to speed. Catchin' up...getting drunk with a Monet over her head. Not Manet or Jeff Koons.
Deana did write "Not Another Love Song." I've listened to this a lot--it's such a great '70s singer-songwriter kind of move. "Ordinary"'s coda is truly Lennonesque, too. I really like the way they use piano on this record, especially on "She's Good for You." Which I think is the best song on the album myself. I like the way she's written songs with real bridges, real modulation, and also the way she uses strings sparingly. It's never overdone at all--the only thing I find less-than-perfect is the drum feel on some tunes, maybe. This record illustrates my theory that Nashville-identified-artists can do that whole thing that power pop or whatever you call it does, and better, they've absorbed that harmonic language at some strange level. Anyway, "The Story of My Life" is a pop record by a woman with an accent, just like the incredible song on "Blake Shelton's Barn & Grill," "What's on My Mind," which I keep playing--quite an amazing track.
I'm still really into the Reckless Kelly record, "Wicked Twisted Road." I guess it's because they're a real band--they've mastered form, every song does something different within a hard-assed but not unsympathetic worldview. I mean how many "country" records have two songs over five minutes that are the best things on the record? So many albums about "the road" are one-dimensional, but this one really goes through a lot of shifts in tone. "Nobody Haunts Me Like You" is quite amazing, too. I think it's kinda brilliant, actually, that whole record.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 12 March 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
i agree. it's southern pop. or country-pop if you want. but not really pop-country. okay, it's pop by a woman with an accent.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 12 March 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
really? why not?? it's totally catchy, totally pretty, totally rhythmic, totally weird, totally engergetic, and i've always been a fan of non-slow polkas and fiddle reels. seems more or less custom made for me; what about it did you think i wouldn't like? ( i guess there are some draggy folkloric parts, but they seem to be few and far between -- often just self-proclaimed "roots" interludes lasting a few seconds each.) (best track: #2, followed perhaps by # 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, and 14, though not necessarily in that order, and i'm probably leaving some other gooduns out.)
yikes, my third favorite song (more or less) on that trish murphy album appears to be written by lyle lovett! (maybe even a cover.) but i think she wrote most of the other ones, including "the trouble with trouble" (probably the best track) and the thelma and louise one (which may or may not be as good as deanna carter's thelma and louise one) (p.s.: in my book, pop with a {southern} accent *is* country. or at least if it's sung by someone who has had country hits and who CMT still plays videos by it is.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
old me votes deana, "cause she's a rebel maaaaan, indie alt.country steeped in power-pop, first song sounds like Avril, yeah!"new me votes lee ann, "intentional throwback attempts always suck except this one, harder to pull a pierre menard out of a hat"
WHICH ME WILL WIN
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I dunno, I got to listen more to Lee Ann, it hasn't grabbed me so much yet.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 March 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link
re:Chesney, he has annoted (sp) all of the tracks on this album, via video on the website--i dont have speakers on this machine, anyone want to see them ? (does the word lover jar anyone else on old blue chair ?)
the lee ane womack is jeannie c riley w/o any of the twang, but she has some absoutely heartbreaking deliveries.
did anyone hear crystal gale at the opry today--shes promoting a cd of hoagy carmachel songs (wtf?) and her voice is trashed, completely.
and speaking of gale--the long black train dude, whats his name ? anyways his new single is the worst of martina mcbride treacle but with more silly jingoism.
has anyone else avoided laughing at her new single--is so over the top, it becomes camp.
i want to hear the fiddle/polka album--i adore trad polka
i am working on a theory that a bunch of these country guys have been listening to frampton and journey--at least lyrically---i am not sure of the impliactions of this.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 13 March 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Lyle Lovett is indeed one of the biggest dullards of our time (or at least his), which is why I was so surprised to see his writing credit on a song I liked on the Trish Murphy album. So *maybe* he's (slightly) better than I'd figured.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
I meant NOTHING by this
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I really thot the Vagina song was much much better then Cletus Judd--can we let Starlite take the nashville jester postion away from him ?
There are a few Crystal Gale songs that are just fucking amazing, among the best country ever recordings ever, and it is entirely due to her voice (which in many ways was more techincally astute then lorettas--i mean lorretta had a million things to make up for it, attitude, fire, wit, grace, etc etc but her sister sang better i think.)
I was going to write up the womack for stylus, but everytime i write about country for them, i tend to get abused...though i keep thinking its really good, so i might break down...i havent heard the new deana--i dont get cds sent to me, and im tending towards broke...(which means i take charity burns and tapes)
I really really love stawberry wine--i was reminded of that having breakfast in a painfully hip cafe at qsw, and having one of the guys play it to torture another barista, and it made me homesick, sort of the nausea you get after being punched in the stomach, it was all her voice, and the lonliness.
countrys so good at faking the authentic, that i dont think the audiene sometimes knows when its being led on--but then i think pop is the pposte for similar results.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 13 March 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
ANTHONY EASTON IS ON THE MONEY AGAIN, WHEN WILL IT EVER CEASE
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 13 March 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 March 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 March 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, i don't get this either -- what music *doesn't* fake authenticity, and what music has an audience that *does* know when fake is happening? seems to me you could say the same about r&b, hip-hop, metal, country, teenpop, just about anything!
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, I think it's obviously an illusion, the thing I try to remember is that people singing songs for an audience work on a shared body of experience, but that includes a lot of mythology. I'm not so enamored of someone like Albert Murray, the daddy of neo-con blues and jazz scholarship so willingly exploited by Stanley Crouch and Wynton Marsalis--if Ray Charles used Sunday morning gospel conventions to sell Saturday night, more power to him. But I see how someone far more conversant with Sunday-morning-gospel reality and how using that might piss people off who are ready to be offended by said use might find it troubling, that mixture. I guess in country it's the same thing to a degree, except I'm trying to think of a white country artist who used white sacred music in a profane way. Were the Statler Brothers an extension of all that, did they use it in their novelty-act way? I dunno.
I'm listening to the Billy Don Burns, thx Chuck! I'm pretty impressed. I quite like "I Was There," which seems to be relevant to the idea of autobiography, for sure; ditto "Haggard and Hank" and "Runnin' Drugs out of Mexico." I mean, I don't think it's great singing or anything, it's all right, and he's definitely playing on his "life experiences" with all those photos of him with Sam Phillips, Paycheck, getting Tanya Tucker to fly in from Europe to cut, etc. But I'd play off it too, I guess. It kinda seems like a better version of some of the stuff I've heard at Tootsie's Orchid Lounge, these guys singing with the little bucket full of dollar bills in front of them, reeking of that country-music mythos. Nice banjo playing. Real interesting.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 March 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
figure out the sentiments (if not the music) of jody "jo dee" messina's "my give a damn's broken" = "get over it" by the eagles, right? i.e., please don't tell me about your damn victimhood no mo.
decided also i do not despise "you're my better half" by keith urban, after repeated exposure to it on the excellent *now that's what i call music! 18* comp. mid-'80s police bassline, suburban scenario, some space in the sound, brief jiggy guitar solo toward the end. he is *at least* as hard for me to hate as he is for me to care about.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
also I love a lot of tunes on the new Terri Clark album Honky Tonk Songs, especially the one where she says we should get our supercalifragilistic grooves on and shake our stiff asses.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm not sure if I love it or hate it yet.
― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm not sure about the Dhuks...I have an animus agin bluegrass music. But they are miles better than Chatham. I'd like to know, Chuck, what you like about it...I guess I find it hard to get past that instrumentation, you know.
CMT video award nominees:
Male--Urban, "Days Go By"; Chesney, "I Go Back"; McGraw, "Live Like You're Dying" (yeeesh); Keith, "Stays in Mexico."
Female--G. Wilson, "When I Think about Cheatin',"; M. McBride, "How Far"; Reba, "Somebody"; Terri Clark, "Girls Lie Too" (no nom for her Dodge commercial)
Group/Duo--Big &, "Holy Water"; Lonestar, "Mr. Mom"; M. Gentry, "If You Ever Stop Loving Me (I'll Activate Your In-Home Sprinkler System, Costing You a Fat $50,000 in Repair Bills)"; Rascal Flatts, "Feels Like Today"
Collab Video--Paisley/Krauss, "Whiskey Lullaby"; Buffett/Black/Chesney/Jackson/Keith/Strait, "Hey Good Lookin'"; Nelly/McGraw, "Over and Over"; Twain/Currington, "Party for Two"
Hottest (!) Video--Urban, "You're My Better Half"; Chesney, "Old Blue Chair"; Sara Evans, "Suds in the Bucket"; T. Keith, "Whiskey Girl"
Breakthrough--Big &, "Save a Horse"; Wilson, "Redneck Woman"; Josh Gracin, "I Want to Live"; Julie Roberts, "Break Down Here"
Most Inspiring--Big &, "Holy Water"; Joe Nichols, "If Nobody Believed in You"; McBride, "God's Will"; McGraw, "Live Like You're Dying"
Directors of "Redneck Woman," "Stays in Mexico," "Whiskey Lullaby," and "I Go Back" nominated. Broadcast April 11.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 18 March 2005 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Anthony identifies with cougars! I love that LAW record too.
― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Edd, someday when I have more time on my hands I'll do a song-by-song rundown of the Duhks album, which I've already played just about as much as any album this year. And, again, I am a bluegrass hater from way back. But the instruments used aren't what bugs me (I don't really get that -- fiddles can rock! and here they do!!); it's *how* they're used. And here there is no show-offiness or school-marm-smarminess to speak of, and tons of humor and hooks and beauty. And SONGS, one of which is French. So far my favorite song is the (slow, oddly enough) one about Baltimore (which is followed a couple songs later with one about Dover, Delaware). But my opinion is still evolving. So far, I believe this to be a pretty great album. Again, the only valid comparison I can think of is the Dixie Chicks (though Don's worthy faves the Mollys also come to mind, come to think of it, as will some others if I give the subject more thought, I'm sure.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 18 March 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 18 March 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 18 March 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Fredland (jfredland), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allen Baekeland (Allen Baekeland), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 19 March 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Allen Baekeland (Allen Baekeland), Saturday, 19 March 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
and by the way, that joe dee broken give a damn song not only reads like the eagles, it also *sounds* like the eagles. blatantly -- something off of *the long run,* i think.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 20 March 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I saw the footage of his funeral for the first time (kodachrome from the 50s) for the first time today, on a trashy cmt biodoc . The footage was edited badly and the voice over was distracting---but there were thousands of people in black, a mass on the steps of nashvilles Memorial Stadium. There was the thick crush of mourners over graveyard under white tents standing on green grass. There was him in his coffin--grey suit and white satin.
Then there was the front row of the audience:his ex wife, his current wife, his mistress who buried the man on the evening of the fourth and gave birth to his child on the sixth.
The doc ended, and Shania Twains video for Party of Two came on.I turned off the television.
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 21 March 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 21 March 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
(and oh yeah by rr's "fastest" songs i may have just meant "loudest.")
― xhuxk, Monday, 21 March 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
xp = nope haven't heard new terri c yet, though i often like her lots.
― xhuxk, Monday, 21 March 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I've liked her live a whole lot, but never warmed up to any of her albums yet.
― Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I mean there's a studio in town, Alex the Great, run by Brad Jones, and there's been a claque of folks in N-ville recording there obsessed with power pop for years, like the Shazam, who are actually now better than they were as they ditch the effeteness for more power and better more compact tunes.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link
i am not sure i like terri clark
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm pretty sure i find mary gauthier a major bore (or at least i'm pretty sure i did the one time i tried to listen to an album by her)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
>In other matters, Shooter Jennings suprised. "4th of July" is best tune --I like! The "put the O back in country" is a convenient sham, OK, because I approve of convenient shams carried out by the circumstantially doomed 100 percent of the time. The best tunes sound like his glam band lightened up although the very -last- tune, "Daddy's Farm," on the rekkid is no-holds-barred. <
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 March 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 March 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 March 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 March 2005 06:11 (nineteen years ago) link
>To my surprise, I sort of like the Shooter Jennings album. I liked a Waylon Jennings album once, back in the late '70s or sometime, the one with "Would Hank Have Done It This Way," if that's the title, which had a drone that reminded me of the Velvet Underground. In any event, Shooter's voice is even worse than his dad's I think, though "worse" might be the wrong terminology. Shooter's voice never quite seems *there*. So, when he sings (in at least *two* songs) that Nashville has no soul, I want to retort, "Well, you have no voice." But he kind of does have songs, and an idea of what his voice should be doing if it existed. And he has guitar licks. And the emotional age of a 10-year-old (so the ten-year-old within me gets a kick out of the album title). And his ideal of a blues band seems to be Blue Cheer.
― xhuxk, Monday, 28 March 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
By the way the Hacienda Brothers = awesome.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 31 March 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Fredland (jfredland), Saturday, 2 April 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
and in another vein--the new aliasdar roberts is v. pretty, v. low key, feilditous to the childe/border ballads tradition with out sufforcating it dead with his respect.
i would recommend it deeply. (on drag city)
― anthony, Sunday, 3 April 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Sunday, 3 April 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Been listening to both Dierks Bentley albums. I like him a lot. "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do" is probably my single of the year so far, just a great, great ramblin' fear-of-commitment anthem, and it stomps and it swings and it jams like crazy, but stays light on its feet all the way through. Not sure if I said all that before or not. The rhythm *isn't* Latin, but it's total dance music, non-stop forward motion. You could mix it into a disco set, easy. AMAZING drummer. My favorite songs by him otherwise so far are the ones that sort of split the difference between George Strait in his "When the Cowboy Rides Away"/"Amarillo By Morning" Glen Campbell forlorn fugitive cowpoke on the desert highway mode and Montgomery Gentry-style hard rock (though he's never a Montgomery Gentry-style asshole about it, except your usual no-woman's-ever-gonna-tie-me-down kinda asshole I guess, and in one song he does keep a gun next to him while driving and making out in his truck.) The new album (due in May) has his band stretching out more, and they do it with a real ease. But the debut sounds pretty good too, at least so far. New album could have a shot at my top 10.
― xhuxk, Friday, 8 April 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 8 April 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I assumed he was gettin himself a little "piece" on earth, actually!
― xhuxk, Friday, 8 April 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Monday, 11 April 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
watching GAC or CMT the other night, by the way, i realized that i THINK the nickelcreed sounding country hit i'd been curious about a few months ago (including on my pazz and jop ballot) is by cross-canadian railroad or whatever they're called. i'd heard an album by them i kinda liked once; kinda country-rock, as alt-country goes (which is probably why they've got some commercial airplay), but i never realized how fake grunge they sound til now.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 16 April 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 16 April 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 16 April 2005 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 16 April 2005 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Hmmm....well, Ben Ratliff (I think) in the Times yesterday called their voices "strong but unvirtuosic" (or something like that), so I'll go with that choice instead. I dunno, they're no Leanns or Lee Anns, obviously. But like I said, not alt-country wallflowers either. Anyway, I may go see them live Saturday; if so, will report back.
Still haven't made it through the Van Zant CD, for some reason. Did jump forward to "Plain Jane", and slightly heard "Sweet Jane", and if AC/DC's there that's even *more* slight, I think. Don's description above does put me in the mind of Kix's "Same Jane," which was great (though probably more "Gudbuy T'" than "Sweet." Maybe THE Sweet, tho.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 18 April 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Artist Jamie O Neal Album Brave Song Naive
How you been, boy you're lookin' goodAre you still livin' down in BirminghamFunny how things didn't turn out like we thought they wouldNow here we are standin' face-to-face againTwo old long lost friendsLaughin' 'bout when we'd sing
"Born in the USA"And we'd scream it at the top of our lungsRemember how you'd always sayYou were gonna change the worldAnd yeah, I would always be your girlAnd we dreamed about runnin' awayJust takin' off and chasin' the sunMan, we really had it madeWe were young, in love and freeAnd so naive, so naive
― xhuxk, Monday, 18 April 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― john'n'chicago, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
But Haikunym is OTM about Buddy Jewell
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 24 April 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, Jamie O'Neal album on now. Track 8; I have liked at least five songs so far, a pretty awesome batting average already. My only complaint is that the record company sent me the dance remix CD single of "Altantis" (which may well be great; haven't listened yet) instead of the dance remix CD single of "Naive" that I requested.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link
And the Duhks rocked live -- I actually think the lead singer has a real good range, from hi lonesome down that bluesy low register. The drummer was pretty good except when he took a long boring extended solo (I can totally see them appealing to a jam band audience). High point: the rennaisance fairish song that, what with its pounding and stomping underneath, momentarily put me in the mind of Led Zeppelin.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 29 April 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 29 April 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 30 April 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
But okay, another question: Who does the (I assume current) country hit with a high ethereal male voice saying the same borderline-incomprehensible thing over and over again over what sounds *exactly* like a loop of a great guitar progression from "Hollywood Nights" by Bob Seger (which *maybe* a little "Night Moves" tossed in, I'm not sure.) I really really really need to know.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 30 April 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
has anyone heard how do you get so lonely, im not sure who did it, but its this 18 yr old kid talking about a classmate who killed him self, and its so matter of fact, refuses to talk about god, refuses to engage in chap sentiment, the music is really simple and hte voice is amazing--its haunted me, it makes me umcomforatble to listen to, because of its power.
― anthony, Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
is it wrong to laugh at a twelve year old--its the most epic car wreck of cliches and mawkish sentiment.
― anthony, Sunday, 1 May 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 2 May 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Not sure whether *Car Wash* by the Howling Diablos (from Detroit, apparently Kid Rock pals whose previous album struck me as too stodgy or minstrely or something) belongs on this thread or the metal thread, but there is no badass early-ZZ/John Lee boogie thread, so I will plug it here regardless. Title track is the best song about working at the car wash since the one by Rose Royce. My other two favorite tracks so far are "Mean Little Town" and, bizarrely, "Elvis Lives." I wish their singer had a smidgen more personality in his voice, but given the guitarist and drummer, I can live with it.
Have also been trying to appreciate *The Essential Poco,* too, but too no avail. As Eagle-lites go (whether they initially predated the Eagles or not), I'd say I prefer Firefall (who I've never had much use for). And as recent '70s afternoon-rock comp CDs go, Little River Band's blows this one out of the water. I hardly remember ever hearing any of these on the radio, either -- maybe "Crazy Love" and "Heart of the Night" (with its cryptic reference to "the Ponchatrain," which I still think of as a hotel in Detroit, where I first heard the song on the radio). Anyway, Don or Edd or whoever, am I missing something with these guys? I think the first edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide (the grades in which George Smith says should only be trusted in reverse) gave one of their albums (the debut?) five stars out of five, but I'm not hearing much anything here that holds my attention at all. So...am I just not trying??
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 May 2005 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I can't figure out what that song is with the Seger-isms, Chuck, I've been listening but haven't heard it yet. I'm still way into some of that Keith Anderson CD, especially "XXL," which is rockin' my world.
Poco--I never really cared for 'em myself. Pretty much lacking in detail compared to Mike Nesmith or Brewer and Shipley, even, or Firefall or even the New Riders of the Purple Sage, or Pure Prairie League, or John Phillips. Pallid, poco indeed. I think all the drugstore cowboys of circa 1971 were fine as long as they were worrying about living in L.A., got intolerable when they hied off for the wide open spaces and started working on those harmonies.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Shooter Jennings "4th of July" vs. X "4th of July" vs. Martina McBride "Independence Day" vs. um., whatever the Springsteen and Van Morrison ones were called
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
(i'd take miranda's, since hers rocks harder.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 May 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 6 May 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
The two songs I mentioned from Donna the Buffalo are the only two that grabbed me. I like the sly swing of this group at their best, and yeah, the lyrics are a bit too good-liberal for me, and I'm a good liberal. The great thing about the Dierks record is indeed the swing, and the way they use what might be dorky bluegrassy instrumentation in new ways. In the radio interview I heard with Dierks, he talked a lot about how careful he was in mixing that record, and how important the sonic mix between, say, the banjo and the electric guitars are. But at their best, Donna the Buffalo are getting there, I think.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 8 May 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 13 May 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 13 May 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 13 May 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 13 May 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link
two good new superstar singles:
shania, "i ain't no quitter" or whatever it's called. WESTERN SWING, for real. not some cheap imitation. who is the band playing on this? that ain't just mutt. lovely.
toby (at least i assume it's toby -- sure sounded like him, damn he's an amazing singer, but the DJ didn't say), the one where he's in a bar and two, um, swedish twins or whatever they are hit on him but though his ego is willing he's older now and his body ain't what it used to be: sounded great, the one time i heard it. also extremely good-humored, so rob sheffeld must've missed it when he wrote his rolling stone of the album. but i will forgive rob, if only for his hilarious joke in the same issue about Ratt's singer becoming the pope.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 May 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 15 May 2005 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 15 May 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
And here is George Smith, via email; who is the na-na-na-na lady?
>I've been watching CMTV over the past couple months and it's thetriumph of the legacy of Bad Company. Bad Company never sounded veryBritish. The whole idea was to get rid of the Brit music hall "sound" of Mott the Hoople and the "blooz boom" thing of Free for the American arena. And that's what they did and so the big country hits acts all have drummers who sound like Simon Kirke (thump! [bass drum] bang! {snare shot} thump! bang! repeat at mid tempo) and everyone, excluding the Telecaster crowd, has the Bad Company guitar thang -- Les Pauls. "Straight Shooter" was a goddamn modern country album with really loud guitars, for cryin' out loud.
Even after Rogers left and the hacks were hired for "Holy Water"-eraBad Company, big country USA sounds even closer to that model. What's the chick's name who does that song that end with the long outro "na-na-na-na"-- man, she is so Bad Company. And all the guitar players look like Boz and Simon, they wear black T-shirts and jeans and all have a slight stubble and and are basically short to medium height so the girls who aren't sure of their sexual allures re the "star" can think they surely could win the sidemen over backstage.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Friday, 20 May 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, but only their lamest stuff. C'mon, that song is stoopid. (Altho it does have a sense of humor, which is something Chris Knight doesn't and Steve Earle doesn't enough. But being kinda funny isn't really enough.)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony, Friday, 20 May 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
New Nickel Creek, due in August: I definitely like track #10, "Best of Luck." Maybe "Somebody More Like You," "Scotch & Chocolate." "Doubting Thomas," and/or "Helena," too.Maybe more than that. Maybe not. I probably won't like it as much as James Hunter (who says it is great) does, though. But they really do have their own sound that's nobody else's, I have no doubt that James is right about that. I just wonder if there is too much indie-rock in it sometimes. (No Pavement covers this time, though. Also, are they a Christian band? I forget.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 21 May 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony, Saturday, 21 May 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Also might check out the Nasvhille Music Guide-touted, allegedly "sax and bass horn"-augmented website of St. Louis combo the Well Hungarians ( www.wellhungarians.net ) one of these days, if I remember to do so.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0521,dozen,64242,22.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Glad you like the Nashville Music Guide, xhuxk. It's something else as well, and you should have seen it before they cleaned up the writing.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
I can find Brad Paisley sttuff as well, but my compact discs are in victoria.
― anthony, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
I can find Brad Paisley sttuff as well, but my compact discs are in victoria. (little moments--which has always irked me to peices, because it treats his wife like a 6 yr old)
― anthony, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, so did every song Pat Benatar ever sang. But the Doublemint twins that the Tobester needs Viagra before he can consider going home with aren't the same as the the big guy who he wishes he didn't pick a fight with at the bar, right? (Or at least that what I *think* he's singing about - I heard the song once on the radio and saw the video once on TV, so I might be getting it wrong.) Also, wasn't the woman in "How Do Do You Like Me Now" a valedictorian in high school (just like in some Phil Vassar song around the same time)? Not sure offhand how he has contempt for her there either, but maybe I've blocked that from my memory. (By the way, I just realized that the words in "How Do Ya Like Me Now" are at least as close to "On Your Radio" by Joe Jackson as to "How Do Ya Like Me Now" by Kool Moe Dee; is that cool or what? Also, isn't there a new high school reunion song on the country charts now? I think I noticed it in Billboard, but I forget what it was.) (I will point out, though, that the girl in the "Whiskey Girl" video did not look anywhere near as "tough" as Toby said in the song. She just looked like a model! She should've looked like Whole Lotta Rosie instead.) (Anyway, I guess my bottom line is that Toby strikes me as pretty self-effacing, when you get down to it. Even when he does braggadocio about the college boys all went home for the summertime {like Thin Lizzy, only backwards!} and he's the real man in town, though, it implies that he had to wait until summer to take their place, right?) And especially when he's trying to get a word in edgewise between the medical charts and when she starts. None of it seems mean-spirited to me, for damn sure.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony, Thursday, 26 May 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link
(just teasing, anthony, but damn does people doing that on the internet drive my brain crazy.) (he says in all lower case letters.)
anyway. i never saw the flameworthies, though their name alone is worth of your gay country thread. what did alan do, forget to rhyme "chorus" with "thesaurus" or something?
my own question of the day: What is the deal with Trick Pony? Are they any good? Were they ever? I kinda don't mind their Bonnie Tyler cover CMT has been showing (sexy video, too, and somebody dies at the end) (though it'd be even better if it was a cover of "total eclipse of the heart" or, um i know, "bette davis eyes"!) But my REAL Trick Pony comment has to do with the fact that one of the guys in the band (in that video) sure does seem look (and even dress) a lot like Big Kenny. Is that a new thing? Or did he always look like that? Is it at all possible Trick Pony were proto-B&R? Would that explain why I kept thinking they were called Trick Daddy instead? I know nothing about them, and now I'm wondering if I should've been paying more attention.
and ps: speaking of Big Kenny, people know that the woman he married is his *stylist*, right? And the last couple photos I saw in Billboard had him looking somewhat more rugged and less flamboyant than in the past. Let's hope this is not an omen of things to come.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
speaking of little kenny, has anyone seen the new photos of him hatless in LA, he looks like a fetus.
can we talk about Aaron Prichett ?
― anthony, Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Friday, 27 May 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't know much about Trick Daddy. I sort of like that video too--it is sexy--and they sound good. I'm intrigued. I have to see this upcoming CMT special about strange country moments--footage of Bill Anderson's disco song--and I have to find out why they flashed a picture of Sonny Boy Williamson in the promo spot.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
This one's weird though, it's also a template for making the perfect country song, and a mockery of everyone who thinks they can do it. It is a mechanical paean to the power of a good hook and that, said it sounds it. No real energy, no rambunctious joy?just a barely disguised fuck you.
Alright, what happens here is that Alan Jackson brings his work to a mechanic, who told poor Alan that his car repairs would take nine hundred bucks, after spending the entire verse cataloging everything that could be wrong with his car?the chorus starts and it's supposed to be a sing-along, but it's sort of anemic, and he harmonica is perfunctory.
The mechanic sings?and then Alan Jackson talks about how badly written the song is, about too many adverbs and verbs that are too weak, well that works, that's easy writing advice if you are bob Dylan or Britney Spears. Where it gets weir ,are the next lines. The most technical explicit discussion of the actual transcribing and writing of music I have ever encountered, it's studio notes from the guitar gnomes of Nashville made public.
Do you think that anyone who listens to country knows what ?it?s got so many dotted eighth notes in it? or the importance of ?50 beats per minute? or how many ?augmented chords? are too much. He then charges the mechanic a hundred bucks more then the car?proving to the world that mechanical, technical craft is needed and a form of skilled labour, like carpentry or being a rigpig?something that blue collar, but just a little more special, a hundred bucks more special, really. Smarmy shit all around, and not as humble as he needs to be.
from nypm
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― George Smith, Monday, 30 May 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
That's pretty funny on Alan Jackson, actually. I wonder if anyone's ever done a "Star Making Machinery" kinda book on making of a Nashville album (that book's about Commander Cody trying to make a commercial album)? I heard Dierks Bentley say he made his latest album in 10 days, and I thought that might be atypical, but people tell me the typical Nashville album is made in maybe 2 weeks...
CMT roundup was great last night--Big Kenny's having a baby. Garth proposed to Tricia on stage! Shania rolls out her new fragrance line.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 30 May 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
"I'm Down." The rhythm guitars get a great freight train going. And there's a classic rock shred in the outro.
― George Smith, Monday, 30 May 2005 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
btw chuck lonestar does "that used to be us (class reunion)"
― tatersalad, Monday, 30 May 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
COUNTRY ALBUMS1 Honkytonk University — Toby Keith2 Loco Motive — Cowboy Troy3 Feels Like Today — Rascal Flatts4 Be Here — Keith Urban5 Modern Day Drifter — Dierks Bentley6 Twice the Speed of Life — Sugarland7 Here for the Party — Gretchen Wilson8 The Right to Bare Arms — Larry the Cable Guy9 Delicious Surprise — Jo Dee Messina10 Get Right with the Man — Van Zant
COUNTRY SINGLES1 Making Memories of Us — Keith Urban2 Songs About Me — Trace Adkins3 Lot of Leavin’ Left to Do — Dierks Bentley4 Homewrecker — Gretchen Wilson5 Fast Cars and Freedom — Rascal Flatts6 What’s a Guy Gotta Do — Joe Nichols7 My Give a Damn’s Busted — Jo Dee Messina8 You’ll Be There — George Strait9 That’s What I Love About Sunday — Craig Morgan10 Something More — Sugarland
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― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
-- forget the new nickel creek album. "best of luck" is the only even *possibly* great track on it, and i'm not even positive about that one. the only other fast songs are instrumentals -- why are bluegrass bands these days so afraid of talking fast over fast jig rhythms like all the guys on that charlie poole box set used to? i think this might kinda be a problem with the duhks, too, actually.
-- though i still say no fucking way does the world need another version of "honky tonk blues," i have to admit now that the kentucky headhunters' rendition boogies WAY harder than i'd given it credit for above. not as hard as "big boss man", maybe, but close. now that i have the album in my random CD changer, more tracks than i would have expected are sinking in. including the dylan cover.
-- on the turntable right now: george strait's first MCA *greatest hits* album, from 1985, purchased recently for $1 cold cash at princeton record exchange. and it is way more western swing and warmer and less goody goody and more post-gary stewart and more proto-garth brooks than i'd remembered. though i still say george gotta way duller (and straiter) later. and the best track by far is still "amarillo by morning," as i predicted upthread. but i like way more tracks than i thought i would.
-- also like way more tracks (including dylan cover) on jason and scorchers' *fervor* EP, which i just listened to for the first time in years if not decades. they really could rock; the guitars in "both sides of the line" really crank it up. but i think the track i'll spin at my next DJ gig will be "help there's a fire", for its totally unexpected b-52s and devo influence ("find me a POP-sicle, take her to the DIS-co") not to mention its proto-cowboy troy hick-hop vocal cadence.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
anthony, post the darn toby review already! you don't need to ask us permission (i don't think. actually, i never read the rulebook.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 June 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 5 June 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
http://deanesmay.com/posts/1117638206.shtml
http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1117758173.shtml
his favorite songs:
http://plasticboy.com/archives/2005/05/17/2014/
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latest cmt = hard rock george smith email:
>...is the equiv of the Rick Springfield album from last year. Man, this shit rocks out on acoustic guitar. "Renegade" is the biker rock song of the year and it's about a horse jumping up and down on assholes until they're dead. I'd swear it was Nugent doing unplugged with a better sense for lyrics, story and dynamics. Easily in my top three slot. Nothing will dislodge it. It's also a natural for CMT -- actually superior to 98 percent of CMT. Proves you can make an album that is as good or which greases most commercial product. Note I am specifically speaking of the White Stripes.
As you know, Kentucky Headhunters is also maximally hard in places. "Big Boss Man" is difficult to top. No metal band, even the extreme ones, this year have attained the crunch, groove or density of it. My calculations have that record batting a solid .500. And the good songs are really great. However, "Hey Good Looking" and things like it are supremely awful and could have been left off.
And, fucking fuck, "Rock of Ages" [by Def Leppard -- ed.] is a grand compilation. There are four songs on it, which -- like Bad Company -- form a template for CMT acts, none of which are country at all, but American stadium rock. ("Let's Get Rocked" -- add Shania Twain fiddle and it's a Shania Twain tune; "Two Steps Behind -- no changes necessary; "Promises" -- very few changes necessary, less compression and -loudness- maybe, and "No Matter What".)
The Bad Company companions:
Sugarland -- straight Bad Company, Joe Dee Messina -- sounds like DonHenley cops, Keith Urban -- "holy water" Bad Company; Erika Joe or whatever her name is on "I Break Things" which is -straight- Bad Company, specifically "Movin' On."
It's also displaced hair metal, slightly diced with look and exclusion of guitar wank plus addition of fiddle and mandolin ( disguised to look like a teeny-sized acoustic guitar) mixed so low you can't hear it, only see it. And the Simon Kirke drum style applies with all. Def Lep drum style, too, after the guy lost his arm, which made him do a Simon Kirke imitation. (Listen to the change in cadence and complexity between when they sounded like AC/DC and Kix, and when the arm was cut off and they did the mega-stadium hits. This cannot be overlooked. Def's drummer completely abandoned rolls and syncopation -- he had to, he only had one arm -- but hecompensated with drama and swing, or Lange did.)
Rascal Flatts is Bon Jovi imitation except with a ham hock in place of the pretty boy. I like many of these acts but Flatts just plain suck. And Gretchen Wilson's "Party" song is shitty generic stadium hard rock. Everything Brooks and Dunn have done in the last year or two stinks, too. It's their picture in the dictionary next to the definition of phony.<
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Actually, I think he's right about Brooks & Dunn, believe it or not. Everything I've heard (four or so songs) by them since *Red Dirt Road* has been really lame; I'm always shocked by how much they bore me, since I liked that album so much. Are these recent singles all old outtakes that wound up on their best-of CD (which I have yet to see a copy of) or what?
While I'm add it, I will add that the debut album by teenager Erika Jo seem to promise real bubble-country potential, but most of it is a total snooze. "I Break Things," "Good Day" and the cover of "I'm Not Lisa" seem okay, maybe. But Killdozer did that last song way better.
TERRY ALLEN's *The Silient Majority (Terry Allen’s Greastest Missed Hits)* is quite entertaining, however (and also maybe old outtakes, judging from the title.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
"Yellowhand & Noka...is the equiv of the Rick Springfield album from last year. Man, this shit rocks out on acoustic guitar. ..."
and I meant to say:
"While I'm at it, I will add that the debut album by teenager Erika Jo seemed to promise real bubble-country potential.."
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Do other people hate Sugarland? (Blount's "gah sugarland!" would suggest so, and I think Jon Caramanica told me he has no use for them, either.) What's not to like? I think they're pretty good!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
See that new Dwight Yoakam video "International Heartache" debuts CMT Thursday 6/9. I recently sat thru this Gram Parsons video tribute thing, with Keith Richards, Norah Jones, Dwight, Jay Farrar, Lucinda Williams. Strange, but of all of the songs Norah's version of "She" was about the best...and Dwight was pretty fine, the one person on the program truly up to Parsons, I think. Didn't hurt that the band featured Al Perkins on steel, and James Burton was playing too.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Cross-threading to the P&J '05 thread, I do think Charlie Poole will make it. Cowboy Troy, whose current song I think is kinda the best thing to come out in the wake of Musik Mafia--a gas, actually--and I'd sure like to think Deana Carter's flawed but great little album would make it.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I'll keep the new White Stripes, too, even though it is almost definitely their dullest album, and a lot of it reminds me of when Drive-By Truckers made *their* snoozeful alt-country move last year.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
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http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000954856
Edited By Jonathan Cohen. June 10, 2005, 11:00 AM ET
New Big & Rich Album Due In November
By Phyllis Stark, Nashville
photoThe sophomore album from high-voltage country duo Big & Rich will be released Nov. 8 on Warner Bros. The leadoff single is titled, appropriately enough, "The 8th of November."
John Rich tells Billboard.com it's a song he and partner Big Kenny wrote about a friend of theirs, a Vietnam vet who survived an ambush that killed most of his platoon on Nov. 8, 1965. Since that time, Rich says, every Nov. 8 the man "puts on a suit and goes out by himself, eats a steak dinner and drinks Jack Daniels to celebrate the lives of those killed that day."
Calling the man's story "epic," Rich says the song is "probably one of the best things Kenny and I have ever written."
This Nov. 8 will be the 40th anniversary of the ambush. Since it also happens to be a Tuesday, Rich says "all the stars were lining up" to make it the right release date for the album and the ideal first single.
Big & Rich's debut album, "Horse of a Different Color," reached No. 1 on Billboard's Top Country Albums chart in September 2004 after 16 weeks on the chart. The set, which also peaked at No. 6 on The Billboard 200, has sold 2.2 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
The duo's current tour drops in on Devol, Okla., tonight (June 10). The group will join Brooks & Dunn's summer North American tour in late July.<
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 June 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Here's the link to the video:http://music.yahoo.com/promo-18684304--smash
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 June 2005 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 11 June 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link
does anyone have any way of sending out the big and rich video so i could see it...
here is my toby keith review:Toby Keith is popular because of his politics. The sun rises in the east. But also, his shrewdness explains why he isn’t slinging hash in some arctic rig camp. This new album moves from a combination of personal and geopolitics, to eleven cheating songs and a self-aggrandizing autobiographical single. This is a shameful admission, but I generally like his genial misogyny, bulldog braggadocio, and the hickboy posturing. Sometimes the brain needs to shut off and the balls or guts engage. His best work is propulsively raw refusing to be nice. The lack of politeness, tact or bullshit is refreshing. This is not his best work. The misogyny is much less genial, the braggadocio is desperate, and he attempts to be clever--often failing. The work here ranges from the patronizing (and he has never been patronizing to the women in his work—there is a violent wrestling for power and privilege which results in a respect for all sorts of power that is no longer here) to the overly simple to the ridiculous to the kinky (and not the good, libertines growl of his last big hit What Stays in Mexico). The only thing that manages to retain any dignity is the Merle Haggard duet She Ain't Hooked on Me Now. A subtle love-as-addiction song which is infused with years of hard drinking, drugging, loving and criminality. There is hope for redemption in Haggard's voice-. The guitars are soft, the bass has a heart beat, and no one wails on the drums. Even Keith knuckles his voice under Haggard's immense power. For that brilliance, we endure the half hearted and badly constructed. A rip-off of Kenny Chesney's island rhythms was recorded in Key West. He didn’t even have the dignity to go the extra hundred miles to the Caribbean. (As Good As I Once Was). There is a song that has about a dozen words including rhyming sad and bad. (I Got It Bad) . Those are just the lazy ones. Then t here are the truly offensive ones. I thought Angry American was interesting, I recognized the anger that permeated Beer for My Horses Keith does a good job at offense. But lines like “Your just a queen/looking for a crown (from Your Smile) or he ran out of money/he’d run out of luck/he’d run out of gas in his pickup truck are diffent (From Where You Gonna Go) tell women “get in the kitchen, bitch”. It is important to remember that Keith’s refusal of the sentiment surrounding marriage is one of his strengths. An attempt to change this is ludicrous. Having two separate songs where he works through a corrupted matrimonal ethic is not worth hearing. The songs where he is glad to have women leave or not be around at all would be more interesting, if they didn’t seem intended to shock a mainstream audience,. As Good As I Once Was has a fuck or fight message that frightens, reflecting that a “rodeo:” threesome with twin sisters and a bar fight might require the same resources. The slick, honky tonk sing along--She Left Me is very similar to the Texas Swing of You Ain't Leavin—except for the latter is country’s first leaving song alluding to hot tub full of drunken hotties. If this was based on a real time incident it should be filmed and spread all over on the web if it worked for Fred Durst imagine it for Keith. Country needs it’s outlaws What offendeds then is a moving away from his powers and into something more cozy. He conceded and you can tell his discomfort. Which means a decision about how far he’s going to go, and what exactly what he wants to do with issues of marriage and women. Right now his ambiguity is fairly dangerous.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link
hmmm....which would be what? personally i've yet to hear a single steve earle or billy joe shaver song that rocks anywhere near as hard as the best tracks by montgomery gentry, big & rich, van zant, brooks & dunn, shania twain, miranda lambert, shooter jennings, dierks bentley, toby keith, or plenty of other artists currently on the chart. but it's very possible i've missed a few, so maybe you're right. but as george pointed out in his bad company comparison, chart country nowadays rocks *plenty* hard, in general - harder than any other genre i can think of at the moment. steve earle, meanwhile, has never rocked as hard, near as can tell, as I wish he did or as people give him credit for, and I've heard plenty of his records. I've heard less shaver, though. (yet sabbath *is* definitely an exagerration for aldean, regardless. what i mean, I guess, it that the "hick town" riff sound more heavy than hard --which is something new, somehow. I'm not yet sure how else to explain this...)
(never heard the ballad that j. blount mentioned above; who does it?)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link
This is a big exagerration, too - though his politics don't *hurt* his popularity, usually.
>the latter is country’s first leaving song alluding to hot tub full of drunken hotties. <
this reminds me that nobody here has yet mentioned that totally sleazy phil vassar hot tub hit (which sometimes I don't quite hate.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 12 June 2005 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link
i think he is a (different) but better singer then springsteen, and as good as waits, in that gruff, silver jews all my favourite singers couldnt sing way (also, i think we need to connect him to the whole indie song writing section of singers--not slick people like chesney, but people like john darinelle, bill callahan, will oldham, and even antecedents, like kirs kristoferson (sp), and shaver, and some of the rockabilly cats.)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
and can we actually talk about the lefty borgie dyke folk, its a major guilty pleasure, and i dont know what to do about it (bragg, of course, but dar williams and the indigo girls, etc etc)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
and he sang billy bragg, in such a clear way, so close that it sent shivers up my spine, and i was talking about how much i found myself obsessed wtih california lately--and he saing help save the youth of america--and its s deeply silly song, and i know its silly, and i love the beach boys too much to take it seriously but hearing him singing it--and then hearing a bootleg billy sing the internationale at some concert in belgium--w/o irony, with a suriety adn an earnestness and a devotion, and an openess, it was like all those atheists who love gospel, and the boy had the dying words of christ tattooed up and down his arms, and he believed in the social gospel of jesus christ--he believed in the father, and in socialism...
now im sure that bragg doesnt belive in god, but matthew did--and there is something in this shedding the snake skin of irony and post modernism and bricoloauge and pastiche and all the genre fucking, and singing as loud as you can something you believe in--and you know what--the internationale is actually not a bad coda (and neither are the more hippy sections of jesustalk)
its funny the dying words he chose werent eli eli lama sabach--they were into my hands i commend my spirit--which i never really found impt. the difference between the two of us then, was forsaking vs commendng, and there is something to be said about braggs accepting
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, that maybe makes sense -- i've never really understood the appeal of the music or lack thereof by these guys, either. though john clearly has a way with words, and can obviously be a totally entertaining writer about music. and i liked a couple smog songs OK once. and kris knew how to write a song, too - though there are those (including christgau, as i recall) who say he's the flattest singers in human history, and they are probably not all *that* far off.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
and do you know what, it doesnt matter
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 12 June 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I like a lot of Steve Earle, but it's probably telling about both him and me that my favorite album is his acoustic one (which is way better than his bluegrass one, and rocks harder than some of his rock ones). His last album, I love "F the CC" because it sounds like the Ramones, and the Iraq trucker song is good. Beyond that I don't remember a whole lot of it. He's definitely been running on fumes for a while.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 12 June 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm admittedly having trouble coming up with great male alt-country types. I like Lyle Lovett no matter what y'all say, but I won't argue for his pipes.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 12 June 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
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― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link
All I know about Aldean is that he came here from Macon/Atlanta in about '98, scuffled around, wrote some, and got dropped from Capitol a few years back when they were going thru their big internal turmoil. And picked up a manager who caught him one night at the Wild Horse Saloon, that got him the Broken Bow deal. But he's been a Warner/Chappell writer for a good while, I think. Far as I can tell, he's not associated with the MM in any formal way.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Dwight Yoakam's new album does not entertain in theusual ways, and it does not go out of its way to puzzle or complicate.Recent critics tend to place brilliant bricoluers above singularcraftsmen. It is why Big and Rich's Muzik Mafia have gotten so popularand why Lee Ann Womack's critical similarity to the singer-songwriters of the 70s, or the packaging of her album got as muchattention as her immaculately lush voice.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Monday, 27 June 2005 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 June 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Laura Cantrell's Humming By the Flowered Vine isn't quite as good but it's still worthy, esp. the opener "14th Street." I like to think of her as kind of a low-maintenance Gillian Welch, not nearly as ambitious artistically, which means you don't get stuck with spectacular bores like GW's Soul Journey, but it also means you won't get anything as wonderful as Time (The Revelator) - one of the most underrated records of the decade imo.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=3127
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Didn't this do really well in pazz & jop?? (Which isn't to say that it can't still be underrated, i suppose. And my own aversion to ice-queen quasi-dust-bowl schoolmarms is well known, so beyond that i willl just keep my trap shut.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 June 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
So, decided the Dwight album (deliberately didn't read your stylus review yet Anthony but will) is one weird-ass sucker, some of it's kinda forced/phoned-in, and ultimately I'm not real sure his Beatley/Brit-invasion/Jimmy Webb (on the last tune, traditionally DY's big end-of-album, I've knocked around yet another model and so tired, so tired and wanna use these strings here, moment) signify all that much. But, love "Intentional Heartache" and several others. Great guitar playing as usual, he's hip enough to use Bobbye Hall on percussion and one of the guys from the Ventures on it, I enjoy it, but I put it away and go, well, that's over, kinda like the newest Beck album somehow.
And, decided that the Ky. Headhunters is one of those rare records on the cusp of creative incompetence, I like it but the drummer on that record, after I listened real hard to it one day on a big stereo, is out to lunch, some of the funniest non-fills and behind-the-beat but I didn't mean to be playing I've heard in years. Good guitarist. Every song is how to not play the drums but I love it anyway. The Buck Owens tune is good...and I saw them down at the Riverfront playing last week and they were much better there, pretty rocking and I had a great time.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 27 June 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.ouramerica2005.com/
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 2 July 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 2 July 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link
but i didnt hear the drone
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 2 July 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link
the new dwight yoakam album may be more "interesting" than good, i still haven't quite decided yet. i definitely like it, but definitely not as much as his previous one. the second half seems much better than the first half. there is a blatant elvis imitation, and a song that sounds exactly like "walk the line" by johnny cash, but with different lyrics. there's also a song that starts with dwight talking in a sarcastic quasi-proper uppercrust british accent that reminds me of electric six, of all people. elsewhere i always tend to like his singing voice, but i think there's something perfunctory and generic about much of the songwriting that keeps it from connecting with me on an emotional level. or maybe it's his voice that doesn't connect (what frank kogan said about willie nelson once) despite it's beauty. anyway, if somebody thinks they can convince me to get off on the new dwight more than i do, they are welcome to try.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 10 July 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
re nicholson, i should also give props to his band, whoever they are, who seem pretty impressive. the song with the "teen spirit" riff (not the MAIN "teen spirit" riff; the one that makes weird al bend his guitar and insert farm animal noises) has the riff building and building and then turning into either a cool sax solo or a cool guitar solo that sounds like a sax solo, i haven't decided which yet. and some of the other songs really swing.
finally, a note on that jason aldean "hicktown" song -- turns out (as i learned in a rentacar friday night) that the heavy fucking riff is really only fucking heavy if your stereo's bass level is turned way up. so do so, i guess....
― xhuxk, Sunday, 10 July 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Trying to figure out the domestic situation in Tim McGraw's "Fries Come with That." The guy's in a tent in Tim's back yard, and Tim's afraid he's gonna hit on his wife, steal his boat? Very odd. A friend, a cousin, a co-worker down on his luck? Good song though.
Got the new Brad Paisley yesterday. Only listened to the first song and the last one--very interesting guitar sounds you don't usually hear on country records, starting the album out. And there's a funny one called "Cornology" which seems to be about Dolly Parton's tits...featuring James Burton on guitar sound effects, and dirty jokes from Little Jimmy Dickens, Bill Anderson (I think), George Jones and Dolly.
And I wish the new Laura Cantrell had more stuff on it like the first track, which hints at girl-group dynamics, and the last one, a pretty amazing piece of work that is folk-country as soundscape territory a la something off that last Chris Stamey album, maybe. And it uses a really effective, simple, swinging gospel kinda bassline under her story of taking a walk in downtown Nashville, past the Alvin York memorial and noted land-grabber president James Polk's grave...it's political and a bit anguished (the Tennessee war hero goes to the big city and gets his ticker-tape parade) without making a huge deal out of it, and does bookend the album nicely, the first song being about a walk down 14th Street in NYC. I want to listen to it again before I make up my mind about it, but it's a very intelligent, and at times beautiful, piece of work--maybe a little over-earnest and boring, not sure yet.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 July 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 10 July 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0528,eddy,65746,22.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
i am waiting on a couple of best ofs from universal
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 14 July 2005 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 14 July 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, Eddie Stubbs does an oldies show on WSM Wednesday nites...and I always learn something. He played a bunch of Wynn Stewart records the other night...WS was the father of the Bakersfield sound, I guess, big influence on Merle, Buck, and by extension the Burritos and Dwight Yoakam. Pretty fine honky-tonk (I got interested after listening to Laura Cantrell's fine cover of "Wishful Thinking" on her new one). And, heard a great Mel Tillis song, his first hit, "Stateside," in which he's in Tokyo and he's got a thing for a geisha (pronounced "gee-i-sha"). And Dave Dudley's "Pool Shark." So now I have to find a Wynn Stewart best-of, ditto on Mel's early stuff ("Stateside" is '59, I think) and Dave Dudley.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
caitlin cary & thad cockrell, *begonias* -- listened to this cuz bob christgau said i should. he loves the opening track, which is a sort of lamenting-our-open-marriage duet, and i guess it's pretty nifty as blando alt-country with vaguely pretty singing and a decent melody and no other music to speak of goes. i think i liked the song where some girl tries to escape to califonia and only made it halfway better. i guess lyrics about california let alt-country bands have hooks that aren't otherwise allowed or something. and the one about waiting for some girl named june in january was kinda clever. but still, way too NPR, way too genteel, way too afraid of the messiness of life and afraid of life in general. bob seems to think it's kinda sexy; i think it's kinda sexless. caitlin used to be in whiskeytown, apparently. don't remember if i ever heard them.
bobby bare - *the moon was blue* -- i don't know jackshit about bobby bare. i guess "detroit city" (that's him, right?) is great (but how does it go?) (great title, anyway.) and i think i have a 45 called "alimony" which rhymes with baloney just like in that one jerry reed song. anyway. this album seems like it might be okay. cool song selection -- "everybody's talkin at me," "ballad of lucy jordan" (marianne faithful -- one of her greatest songs, which okay isn't saying much - one of the best songs on the only album by her i ever liked then), "it's all in the game," "shine on harvest moon," "love letters in the sand," "my heart cries for you" (brooks & dunn, maybe? i don' t know yet.) so far, i kinda like the thing.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
The mailing came with a reprinting of his "so you're going to prison" article, excerpted from his book that's out of print.
― George Smith, Monday, 18 July 2005 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
As for Bobby Bare: Turns out I think I like the idea of his album more than its actuality, which is kinda dull. Though it'd be pretty hard for a good singer to do a version of "Everybody's Talkin at Me" that didn't sound kinda great, I suppose (Bare's version has weird ambient techno blipping at the start -- reminds me of the opening of Loretta Lynn's "Portland, Oregon" last year.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
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― George Smith, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Mel Tillis wrote it.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 23 July 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Probably doesn't fit there exactly, either. Not a trace of Neurosis or Pelican or Euro-vistas in it.
― George Smith, Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
and the eagles and gnr (and n.w.a.? and other people?) probably influenced how songs about cali sounded in their respective daze, too. still - the counting crows stuff surprises me.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 23 July 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyone know if his other songs are just as good as this one?
― van nostrum (Buck Van Smack), Sunday, 24 July 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
the *dukes of hazzard* soundtrack is an excellent if somewhat obvious collection of redneck rock of many stripes, though even i can't stand jessica's breathy "boots" remake. only recent country artist on it is montgomery gentry, whose "hillbilly shoes" is better than i'd remembered. but there's also allmans, skynyrd, molly hatchet, james gang, stevie ray vaughn, cdb ("south's gonna do it again" always amazes me by how JAZZY it is -- it basically turns into glen miller in the middle!), and the completely insane looong version of ram jam' s "black betty", which my otherwise now wu tang obsessed kid sherman made me play six times in the rentacar this weekend (he'd never heard it before. he hated molly hatchet's singer, though, and whenever montgomery gentry came on he said "is this big & rich"?) also a dirty southern culture on the skids party number that blowfly or hasil adkins would appreciate, a typically worthless piece of blackface bullshit by jon spencer, and a rocking cowpunk tune by the blueskins, who i never heard of before. anybody know who they are?
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 July 2005 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 July 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link
(okay, that had nothing to do with country, i guess. but i had to say it.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 July 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 July 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
the soundtrack to the movie is actually on my best country of the year list so far. (i should ask todd if i can review it)
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 25 July 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
[the cougaresque opening to silvertide's album is pretty much "thundering hearts" (possibly jcm's best song ever), by the way. but the song itself doesn't live up to the opening's great promise. other parts of their album remind me of collective soul crossed with guns n roses, and there is a ballad that sounds kinda trainish or wallflowerish or something like that, but oddly i don't hate it..]
― xhuxk, Monday, 25 July 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
And if he gets any money or impetus and a video is furnished to CMT, he might get played until we vomit and poke out our eyes.
― George Smith, Saturday, 30 July 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 30 July 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 31 July 2005 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Was probably the old album cut which, indeed, had a hoedown in the mids. There were a few country-ish things on it, some of them very good, like "Right On the Money."
― George Smith, Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 31 July 2005 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 31 July 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I haven't really gone back to Blaine--I mean the guy has a song about "doctors and lawyers with PhD.'s," and I don't think they get PhD.'s, exactly, do they--sounds like he needed a rhyme with "degree" to me. It's a decent enough album about high school, I guess, couple of good songs. His honesty, as far as it's honest, and his callowness--they seem attractive enough to me. And as my friend pointed out listening to it, where Nashville falls down these days is in writing good melodies, most of the time--never that moment of surprise you get in pop music, and I think he's got a point there.
Dierks I still like OK, but I think he's kind of a singles artist, and that record seems to me to be all about *how* the music is being played (and I think "Lot of Leavin'" *sounds* great), like a Beatles or a Poco record or something minus the "songcraft," and not about the songs, which are nice but the same old trucks and domestic beer and you can't hold onto me 'cause I'm a ramblin' man...plus I don't think I like his haircut...and for me, the ugly question of content rairs up...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
>HACKENSAW BOYS -- The fun on this banjo-weirdling Virginny retro-country 10-piece's new *Love What What You Do* feels a bit less forced when its reels get speedy and silly than when they get slow and serious; topics include big buildings, small towns, parking lots, and cunnilingus. "Alabama Shamrock” no doubt has some redneck Irish jig in it.<
― xhuxk, Monday, 1 August 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Monday, 1 August 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 1 August 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess that bluegrass stuff like Del Mc is math-rock and to some extent heaven-rock, in the Richard Meltzerian way of thinking. I think of it like I do fusion music--it's mostly not funky or anything, but they think they're being funky, and in my more lenient moments I hear the funkiness of it all--the whole thing of "they playing not the notes, but the molecules" as some Beale Street guy once said. So I guess the way to hear it is live--and that performance I heard on the Opry that night was amazing, by Del and Band.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0531,christgau,66398,22.html
― xhuxk, Monday, 1 August 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 5 August 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 6 August 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 6 August 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link
my motivation would be to see kenny and john? are they good live? and does the spectacle scale well? i love it on my tv, but what about from football field's distance? (there'll be live cc tv, i guess though)
― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Saturday, 6 August 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
>the intertexutal positiong of faiths new single<
i have no idea what this means, anthony! can you de-crypt a little?
the other song faith's summertime sunshine song reminds me of is rebecca lynn howard's pink flamingos one from a couple years ago. guess i'm just a sucker for songs about parties on suburban patios. (i realize that kinda thing might make some of my more suburbaphobic NYC friends cringe, though.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 6 August 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
and the thing about the party on the patio one is that that kind of hasbrook heights suburban utopia is probably almost a nostalgia thing by now; rebecca's pink flamingos were more blatant about the kitsch of it all (as were zz top imitating b-52s in "party on the patio" i guess) , but i have a feeling faith kinda knows the utopia's a lost cause by now too. though then again, i can imagine she and tim throwing great patio parties to this day, so maybe not.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 6 August 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I heard something strange last night, right after I listened to that Anthony and the Johnstons album for the first time, this record by Ian and Sylvia Tyson recorded in '69 and produced by Todd Rundgren, called "Great Speckled Bird." Sylvia's voice actually reminds me of Anthony's in the use of vibrato--she's more annoying than Anthony, whose appeal I haven't yet figured out--but Ian sang OK. Anyway, it's got this French version of "Crazy Arms" that had everyone falling out laughing, but it's a great example of some kind of Burrito Brothers style of playing, with more balls--Buddy Cage on steel guitar and Amos Garrett on guitar, pretty amazing actually, and N.D. Smart on drums. I burned it just to be able to forward thru the singing to hear the band play.
And, I'm real interested in this guy named Jim Ford, there's a piece in the Oxford American on him as a country-soul guy from Kentucky coalmining country who also hung out with Bobby Womack and who apparently was pals with Sly Stone and might even appear on "There's a Riot Goin' On"! That country-soul genre is huge right now in Nashville, too--Frank Black's record tries to do it but doesn't really cut it; if there's a more unlikely person to cover "The Dark End of the Street" I don't know who it is--Anthony maybe?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link
and this is at a time when being "Authentically country" is out of fashion (almost out of fashion--cf big and rich, southern rock, tim mcgraw/nelly, kenny chesney/bubba sparxx/,cmt crossroads)
and i also find it interesting that you know exactly what she is talking biographically--so going to hollywood is not a general dig on LA, but a spec. reference to her being second on a marquee for a artisitically/finiaclly(sp) bankrupt big remake.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 7 August 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link
not sure what Xgau sees in the Pinson record - aside from the vox, I just don't find his lyrics very interesting - they're "clever" I guess, but mostly just filled with generalities, you don't get the nice little touches about things like White Rain and Laura Ingalls like in "Hicktown."
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 7 August 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
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― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 7 August 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 7 August 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
in fact there's one song on her album that seems to be some kind of desperate housewives situation, if i'm reading it right (which i may not be; i might even be reading it backwards in fact, and i've been too lazy to check the lyric sheet). obviously it would be better if it concerned a soccer mom selling marijuana (i swear, i have to finally get a bigger cable TV package now, i REALLY want to start watching *weeds*), but it might be okay regardless. in fact some of the slower songs like that one may well sneak up on me over time. or i might wind up despising them, who knows? there's also one about being in paris which seems to say everybody in paris is stoned or something. on the CD cover, it's the last (and therefore "bonus" maybe?) track, with an eifel tower icon instead of a track number! (worst track may well be the overblownedly sappy ballad duet with hubbie tim, or maybe not.) (it should be noted here that it took me something like ten months and four singles for me to realize that i kinda sorta like *his* most recent album after all. i'll still take "drugs or jesus" over pinson's "nothing ever happens in this town" -- same theme -- any day of the week.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I caught it. The women really upstaged the men. Urban and Fogerty reminded me of two men sitting around the salt wafer barrell at ye old tack shop. Fogerty's face continues to pull away from his teeth and one song they performed together, "Sugar Sugar," was truly terrible.
(The only boring one I've seen was Martina & Benetar, but that's just my taste, and Neil Yoko Geraldo's overshlocking Pat's act, as always when I've seen her live)
I thought it was all right but I'm a guitar guy, so Geraldo, who chewed the stage mightily was entertaining. Benatar's obviously used to him but it was amusing watching Martina react graciously to a guitar player who works at blowing everyone else off the stage. Closed with "Independence Day" which was a good choice, Geraldo having to ratchet it back a good bit.
Heart and Wynonna were the best but you would have had to be ready for big band hard rock. The Marshall half stacks were out in force and Nancy Wilson was way into rhythm guitar heroism. Ann Wilson has become rather awesome looking -- coupled with Wynonna, who is intimidating. Closed with Led Zep and Nazareth's edition of "Love Hurts." Tickled to death that it's the heaviest hard rock performance I've heard this week and it was on CMT on Sunday night. I'd buy a CD of the performance with the stupid yack cut out of it. Donna Summer was in the audience and asked the inane question, "What's it like to women in rock," as if she didn't have a good idea, being on the label with Kiss. Didn't make it through Dolly and Melissa Etheridge.
― George Smith, Monday, 8 August 2005 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 8 August 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Naw, Donna was doing rawk records but she had to know what was going on if she was ever in the Casablanca building when Kiss was there with there entourage. She was obviously liking the Crossroads show.
― George Smith, Monday, 8 August 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 8 August 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link
"Yay, we saved Bush! But the war's kinda going uh" And obviously, since then, the polls continue to show more and more turning against the war: the way it's conducted, and even the original (bipartisian) mandate. But still Faithy must hedge her bet, if she doesn't wanta get Dixie Chicked, seriously.
I'm still waiting for Luke's "American by God's Amazing Grace" to come in the mail. Bluntly, not enough death and maiming in the current war to make country artists consider ranting. The audience's great statistical mean may be wavering but it's still not too close to making up its mind. Although I reckon some near Cincinnati and the woman camped in Crawford have made up their minds. The pain's not widely enough distributed, it's in spicks and specks. So there will be no good music from the war, unless you count good country with made for the USO-tour lyrics, which Toby Keith has carved out.
― George Smith, Monday, 8 August 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 8 August 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 8 August 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link
The philosophy of "American by God's Amazing Grace." I well worn out on support the troops rationalizations and bumper stickers. The country was itching for a war and waged it about as poorly as possible. But it's still a remote war for most Americans who aren't in the Guard or who don't have to join the Army or Marine Corps to get out of town. The Guard's essentially broken. Who would join the reserve now? It's the equivalent of saying you want a ticket to the Eastern Front in "Hogan's Hero's."
Can't bang up country too hard for not getting down to the nitty gritty. No one else does either at the risk of being put on a list.
Wonder how LIVE FROM IRAQ is?
Was going to pop for a copy. But the more I looked at the mist surrounding it the more it seemed like it had to be totally duff. I mean, really, O'Reilly interviews 'em what does that mean? He regularly goes on rants about how hip-hop is the end of civilization.
My rule of thumb: If it's first and primary mode of entry into consciousness is through the regular "news and opinion" side of the newsmedia, as art, it's shit. Ties in with my belief that newspaper journalists at big operations write about art that they think is -good- for their readership, a readership considered to be almost the same but slightly dumber than the journalistas upper middle class upbringing. -Live from Baghdad- was a natural. It was from THE SOLDIERS, the one's fighting for our freedom and stuff, and they did it between missions, so pay attention already, they got shot out for you. But does it stink? Hey, that's irrelevant -- it's good for you and good for them.
Spent some time listening to Hot Apple Pie (past the single) today. Boy, what a thin and dry sounding band. Fail.
― George Smith, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 05:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 12 August 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I spent most of yesterday at the cduniverse.com listening to Bare's back catalog in 30-second bites - got a good sense of what he was doing, but due to shortness of clips couldn't evaluate how well it worked. I see how his staying in country allowed for sentimentality and cornpone sincerity that the hard cool world of '60s pop wouldn't have tolerated, yet he flew with the '60s wind, made a concept album about franchise stores and unemployment, sang folkie standards like "500 Miles" and "Four Strong Winds" but with countrypolitan strings and leaden, swingless choral arrangements adding MOR piety. As Bill C. Malone points out in the liner notes to the Smithsonian country box, "Detroit City" is basically "Sloop John B" set in industrial Michigan (but sans humor, so no cooks throwing fits and grits and no mates going bonkers). "I wanna go home." The strings may have helped his voice to swell, or alternately, fuzzed up its impact. In any event, his using strings now isn't without precedent, but the latter-day strings move and soar and like the rest of the music they seem to be stepping beyond themselves, not just fitting in like in the old days.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Intriguing Bare track from 1967, probably belongs in the category What Were They Thinking?: "The Piney Wood Hills" - is very good, actually, but is out of time; perhaps was intended to cross over to pop, has sentimental lyrics for the country fans about returning to the piney wood hills of home but a rock 'n' roll melody that follows the chord pattern of "I Will Follow Him" (and half a million other rock 'n' roll and doo-wop songs), hence was utterly passé in the pop world but still nowhere near c&w. It didn't chart.
Was "Dropkick Me, Jesus" a Silverstein ditty?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Cowboys and Daddys [RCA Victor, 1975]Bare's cowboys wonder how come they're in Calgary, eat stew just like in the movies, scoff at poets, fuck cows, and lie about their age. His daddys lie about cowboys. With two good-to-great songs apiece from Shel Silverstein ("The Stranger" comes complete with bleep), Dave Hickey ("Calgary Snow" is as intricate as good Jackson Browne and a lot wiser), and Terry Allen ("Amarillo Highway" melds Jimmie Rodgers and Bob Wills for a self-conscious age) plus Marty Cooper's theme statement, this does as much for the outlaw ethos as Waylon and Willie put together. A-
(However, Bob didn't like the other two Bare LPs he reviewed that decade.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 14 August 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 15 August 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Clint Black to play 9/11 anniversary show put on by the Pentagon
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
RUMSFELD begins rant on Iraq with non-sequitur pre-amble on World War II ---->
"Some 60 years ago, with the war in Europe turning against them, Hitler's forces faced defeat, and in desperation, the Nazi regime carried out some of the most indiscriminate acts of violence that had been seen during the war. With allied forces closing in on Berlin, Hitler ordered destruction of German infrastructure, and sent Germans, even very young children, Germans, out to face almost certain death as soldiers. If Germans were no longer willing to shed their own blood to ensure their right to survival, Hitler said, they deserved to die. The world saw in these acts the true nature of totalitarianism and its capacity for self-annihilation."
[Somehow, this compares to Iraq in 2005. Then a few hundred words are delivered about how things are going OK, or we're winning the war, or the nature of the enemy, etc.... all deleted for the same of this posting.
And then an advertisement, to divert you from all the depressing nauseating shit that was just delivered. Come to the party! We'll be serving tea, coffee, cakes and the marzipan and strudle I know you enjoy so much here in the briefing two hours before showtime.]
"One additional note. Every year since September 11th attacks, Americans have commemorated that anniversary. This year the Department of Defense will initiate an America Supports You Freedom Walk. The walk will begin at the Pentagon and end at the National Mall. It will include many of the major monuments in Washington, D.C. reminding participants of the sacrifices of this generation and of each previous generation that has so successfully defended our freedoms. Freedom Walk participants will be invited to a special performance by country singer Clint Black. And more information about this event will be on the Department of Defense website, www.americasupportsyou.mil."
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 15 August 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
ive been lisenting to lots and lots of the jerry lee lewis country albums from the 70s, the one that Tosches talked about so much in hellfire--and the weird thing, is that they have none of the high floating big ideas that tosches claims for him (has tosches written on elvis btw?)...but his cover of the bobby bare song with the line "by the day i worked the bars and by the night i worked the bars" is one of the hardest, most blue collar line ive heard, steely in the most literal sense of the word... and then martin sent me some other bare stuff, and as a writer, i wonder why he isnt more respected (cf parsons, hazelwood, even cash). his writing as a solidity that i find really complicated.
the trace atkins song is called arlington, and i find it really interesting, in a few of ways. his delivery is v. soft, and does not rise to any rhetorical heights. he claims the same kind of family authority as chely wright, but people die in adkins, and they are buried. (i have written about this before) but for the first time in history, we have a war that is hugely docu,ented, both inside and outside (note the article in wired this month about soilder bloggers) (articles i have read bout soilder citizens in the last month aside from the blogs, and the net, the daily papers, bbc, cbc, cnn, al jazera, details, radar, time, new yorker, the new york times, the economist, people, gq) articles that i have heard or seen documented the presence of corpses:some of the web/al jazera. al jazera is supposedly the enemy, and for this audience can be dismissed. the web photos have images of boxes wrapped carefully in the american flag. we dont have the spanish loyalist on the hill side, we dont have barney working on the battle fields. its the deadliest combat since vietnam, and vietnam showed the bodies. adkins surely believes in abstractions like god, country, the flag, etc--he is not country joe macdonald, but he also makes this statement: if we want to keep living the way we do, people might have to die. people have died. there is something radical in that, strange and radical.
i sent chuck too many words on paisley, so he wont be publishing it, but todd might be...and its an album that i am really struggling with. its good musically, but politically its more then a little unpleasent.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 05:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Hitler didn't invent "scorched earth" policy or "self-annihilation." "Scorched earth" has been a western modern tactic in strategic war since William T. Sherman's march to the sea or the burning of Atlanta or whatever. And probably before. Krushchev, as a Stalin underling, instigated "self-annihilation" and "scorched earth" before the advance of the Wehrmacht into Russia prior to Stalingrad and the relocation of Soviet leadership to Kubyshev when it was still thought Moscow would fall.
Up to the top of US political leadership, it is relied upon that Americans no nothing about the history of military action and world conflict. This makes it simple for those like Rumsfeld to make superficial and idiotic comments to newspapermen about the nature of war and how Americans don't do things that the villains always do.
How do I know this? I had to study it as a requirement of a very odd education.
And now let me speak briefly about Jon Randall's solo album, the singer-songwriter who furnished Paisley with "Whiskey Lullaby." Man, that's a song to chug a quart of JD in thirty seconds to and wind up unresuscitatable in the emergency room. Rest of the solo album is ballads and sadness and regret except for two mid-tempo r&B boogie rockers and the title cut, which would have been great for Bryan Adams and/or anyone like him. Randall's a great songwriter of sad songs I don't need to hear that much of.
the deadliest combat since vietnam,
Amateurs. Relative to what? In terms of total war, it's not spectacular. The army and marine corps aren't slugging it out against relatively comparable foes defending urban warrens to the teeth.
This is an ambush and soft target war. Roll by or over a mine or roadside bomb, get targeted by a suicide bomber in a car or truck or wearing an explosive vest with a twenty foot blast radius. This ain't shit like Vietnam, where the military was often in contact with an organized regular army of the opposition. The mobilization v. Vietnam was also much greater than the current conflict, even more so if you consider that the order of firepower available per unit is a magnitude or so higher.
There is also a significantly large number of forces in theatre that are corporate outsourced military forces, mercenaries, if you will. At least 20,000 which is a considerable private army payed for by the taxpayer but whose actions are essentially off the books in terms of the regular news. This is radically different from past recent US warfighting.
Consider for an instant the ramifications, morale and command wise, of a mixed military force employed by US corporates, a business which pays six figures a year tax free per individual, with regular army men who earn low five figures a year in the same theatre. And the six figure earners are soldiers who have fled the army for better paychecks.
Paisley had an hour long special on cable this week. I fell asleep about halfway through. He's a good guitarist and singer, but really predictable with the added crippler that he never gets righteous.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Alt-country single (and most rocking suicide song) of the year: "Callin' In Dead" by Mazzy Gardens & the Brick Hit House Band, disguised (all the way down to the attic-wrinkled-for-three-decades generic 7-inch sleeve) to look like a reissue of a minor country hit (on the apparently phony Åmbassador Records) from 1972. But it's actually a great new song.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
-Two elite North Vietnamese divisions, the 325th and 304th, were identified coming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail, a force of between fifteen and twenty thousand men...The Marines [at Khe Sanh] braced -- and the base was quickly reinforced to ... 5600 men.--- "The Ten Thousand Day War"
My Luke Stricklin "American By God's Amazing Grace" CD still has not arrived. I should've seen it coming.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 19 August 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
New York Times belted on Clint Black and the Pentagon's Freedom Walk scheduled for September 11 as inappropriate, deceptive and stupid. Special scorn developed in one sentence for Black's "I Raq & Roll," which is amusing for reasons Don and Chuck know. I noticed an uptick in web hits after the end of the weekend from people inexpertly searching Google and getting now what they expected.
If you're jingo, it's better to be Luke Stricklin right now.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
>J. D. Blackfoot's "Yellowhand." If he were a young man and this were on something from the industry with muscle, not a label out of Christchurch, NZ, you'd think it belonged in the country rock, emphasis on rock, charts. "The Renegade" -- best noble rebel outlaw horse song, ever. Maybe the only the one, too. Drums by Corky Laing, which add real thump. Also qualifies as rock opera about a horse and an eagle who detested Custer.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
no, the one i love is souls' chapel, which I think would be anthony easton's favorite album ever: country gospel with humor heart and hooks! also he's releasing a live bluegrass record this year!
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
(About to get booted off library computer, so not time to say more.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Hall is ace on "Testify" and "John the Revelator," but on others he's short on terror and hunger and triumph, though he does swoop effectively enough through the melodies. (Don't know if I'd ever even heard him in Wet Willie, or elsewhere. He just got done touring with Jeff Beck.)
I like the one song that drummer Jon McGee sings, laid back, like a wizened old preacher who's set up his portable stool a few yards down the lane from the county's permanent floating carnival and crap game, and rather than bellow in our ear, he'll slyly cajole us into moving in his direction instead of theirs.
I also like how on "John the Revelator," rather than following the Blind Willow Johnson strategy of spooking you with tenuous otherworldly shivers, the Mighty Jerrys simply nail us to the wall; whereas on "Amazing Grace" they forgo usual strategy - which is to shiver our timbers and nail us to the trees - and instead get gentle and haunting.
I'm now prejudiced in favor of Greg Martin, with whom I've had some friendly email back-and-forth on the subject of what garage rock the Headhunters ought to cover, but nonetheless I think I'm correct in observing that the guy is absolutely throwing flames. (And don't take my word for it; Ronnie Montrose says as much in the CD booklet.)
(I told Greg that the Headhunters could do a killer "Mony Mony." He suggested a revved up "Little Girl" - I'd be skeptical of their pulling off the latter. They could certainly rock the roof off it, but the original has the most contemptuously malicious laugh in all of music, and I doubt that malice is in the Headhunters' repertoire.)
Oh yeah, and one thing I've always liked about "John the Revelator" is that it's about a writer.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
One of my favorite recent country songs - one of my favorite recent songs, period - is that Travis Tritt track I've been raving about, "Too Far to Turn Around," which is sung from the position of having salvation within your reach but not knowing how to call for it, as you go down.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link
(Jeesh, and I used to be a proofreader, too!)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Witty line in "Tell the Truth": "Jesus said to love your neighbor, and not your neighbor's wife." Hall's good on this one too, sings with a jauntiness that goes with the riffs, which are old bawdyhouse, basically; using this bawdyhouse style is canny, given that the style accompanyies an anti-fucking-around song.
Don, you're hearing Hall as trying too hard, while I'm hearing him as not holding the floor or carrying lightning in his fist (in other words, as not being enough of a star). Maybe those two ways of hearing it augment rather than contradict one another? Is it Hall or just the words that sound like they're trying too hard? (Hall didn't write any of the words, I don't think.) Of course, since the words are in his mouth, they're his.
But what I was getting at with my Travis Tritt comments is that Tritt has a Greg Allman hard-burning moan, so you feel the sin that eats into him, and sin or salvation sounds like a lived issue; whereas in the Mighty Jeremiahs the message is about a salvation that's already at hand, game's won and we're telling you what we know, rather than struggling for it. Is that what you're saying? (But the preachiness doesn't bother me so much, since the overall sound supersedes the lyrics for me.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 25 August 2005 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
don, i saw that thread based on the boston quote from my book, and i found it...daunting, partially because it had been apparently going for days before i realized that it had anything to do with me. but also because i couldn't figure out where people get the idea that there was no blues in disco music (which i think edd hurt wound up pointing out, eventually). the james gang/boston analogies made a lot sense; don't think i was ever trying to say that boston's *music* was bluesless, per se, but honestly, who knows what i was thinking then...
dumn question about the jeremiahs: who ARE shadrach, meshach, and abednego? i only gather they're in the bible from those old sly stone and beastie boys songs. (catholics didn't have sunday school, you know, just CCD*. if it wasn't in the gospels, we didn't learn it.)
* - actually, since I went to schools named Immaculate Heart of Mary and Our Lady of Refuge through eighth grade, I didn't have to go to CCD either; that was for public school Catholics making up for their downtime. My mention of it here is primarily a Hold Steady reference.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
there's a great chet flippo piece on bobby bare and his prowess as a fisherman, out on old hickory lake east of nashville, in flippo's collection "everybody was kung-fu dancing."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 26 August 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Dave Gonazles of the Hacienda Brothers in *CMA Closeup* says if he could go back to any time in history, it''d be the early '60s., thanks to really good motorcycles and clothes and "polite and straight up and neighborly" people, but also "there was no hard rock to screw up anyone's eardrums or airwaves yet." Funny, because the Haciendas kinda rock. But anyway, this is just about the only explicit ANTI-hard-rock statement I've heard lately.
Erika Jo, on the other hand, on the facing page says she wants to cover "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" by Poison. Go for it, Erika! Apparently she's covered Alanah Myles and Mister Misteer (they do "Broken Wings," right? Or was that Mike and the Mechanics?) before.
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link
>ahh -- Miranda Lambert was one of the two hard-country singers i really, really liked in spring 2004's Nashville Star season 1 (uno). but in both my network/myspace journals (probably duped from e-mails?) i did not take the time to learn / look up any of the singers' names -- here's the except(s) that refers to her by infererence -- i guess i got super distracted by American Idol (and wrote about 3,000,000 words on it, episodically, for the hell of it) and never wrote/saved any later posts on Nashville Star. but i remember being REALLY pissed off that one of the 2 or 3 great female hard-country voices didn't win. Lambert came in 2nd? that's what Google says. >
10 points for trainspotting, minus 6 for lazy researching and failing to punch up Google to find the show's SONY-sponsored website. "and some crazy black guy who played an upside down stratocaster last night at Monterey."
re the KEROSENE album you guys were discussing -- the Amazon.com 20-second verse/chorus samples for this second album / major label debut show the same hard-country voice (somewhere in the Loretta Lynn ballpark, but with better rhythmic force, like there's a firecracker up M's butt and she's pushing the beat constantly) and i would buy the album immediately...or at least look for a $7.95 used copy in the country section in my next weekly trip by the big local store. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007OP284/qid=1124773202/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-4102378-1267004?v=glance&s=music&n=507846i like every single hook i'm hearing to every single song, even just in squashed PC-speaker samples. has anyone heard the Lambert Year 2001 10-song self-pressed indie CD/album issued at age 18? apparently it was nuked into permanent o/p status after the Sony deal. (she wrote or co-wrote all of it) (see bio below, copied from a Texas country music site that an Ebay listing had linked) (an autographed Ebay copy of the CD went for $50 Buy It Now, and was the only copy changing hands on the last 3 weeks' cue). (picture attached) geography recollection: fyi, Lindale TX is just 15 miles north of Tyler, just barely on the other side of I-20 that heads due East from Dallas to Shreveport. 80 - 90 miles east of Dallas/Ft. Worth is about right. Tyler? duh! Mouse & The Traps were from Tyler, ditto their producer Robin Hood Brians. stopped there once on the 500 mile drive from Austin back to Little Rock on a 1972 school holiday weekend to talk to / interview the guy, but he either didn't remember much about the 60's garage bands he recorded there or i didn't have a Q/A list planned anyway...snail mail era, hell, i probably just showed up and knocked on the door w/my Rob Tyner afro and said, "um, i write reviews for Rolling Stone, are you Robin Hood Brians who cut Mouse & The Traps?" he gave me MT copies of the first two Mouse/Traps 45s when i headed back out so it was a most worthwhile 40 mile sidetrack from the normal route home, I-30 to the northeast up into Arkansas. anyway re Lambert's bio, Tyler was REAL "country" farmland back then. hardcore East Texas flatlands for sure. can anyone say Nacogdoches? back in Oakland/Hayward: with the Oakland A's daily pennant drive on top of the WNBA playoffs-drive, piggybacked now by the Little League World Series and its last weekend's Regional Finals, has had the "new music" thing a forgotten second category this summer (it's hard enough just keeping up with the processing of piles of 50 cent and 69 cent albums i keep finding at the thrift stores). i'll check out Hope Partlow's web info/samples after this weekend's LL World Series Semi-Finals/Finals. priorties you know. i love pop-country when the songs are strong (most aren't, seems like there were better songs scattered throughout the mid-late 90's), and i have loved pre-1960 (the gimp "Nashville Sound" w/strings and vocal choirs per Chet Atkins/Owen Bradley was actually late 50's in inception) trad country of every type since first finding mono cutout lps thirty five years ago....but the minute they start using electric bass (with rare exceptions like the Bakersfield sound), forget it, it's bullshit. therefore i hate "alt-country" just per genre definition alone, and someone's going to have to do a lot bigger selling job (on me) than they did for Chuck Eddy. i'm not a playa, i'm a hata. only "americana" artist i ever liked was Kim Richie, and she was really straight country/pop-country who they couldn't find a sales niche for. Miranda Lambert (st) (2001)
10 Tracks - all songs by Miranda Lambert except (M/R) = Miranda with her dad Rick - UPC#8016550145231. Somebody Else2. Texas Pride (M/R)3. Lyin' Here4. Another Heartache (M/R)5. What in the World6. Jack Daniels7. Texas As Hel!8. Something that I like about a Honky Tonk (M/R)9. Last Goodbye10. Wichita Falls (M/R)
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link
>i liked her voice immediately back on NS, i dunno how i got her mislabeled (in that post) as an Okie. i can't listen to one minute of Dolly Parton (any song, any decade) or anything by Loretta Lynn but her very best (60's) songs... Lambert's hard twang is from the Lynn neighborhood and i like it lot better. note that my post (re NS) called her a "honky tonk" singer...i recall for sure she did one or two honky-tonk shuffle tempo tunes. the record store had a nice sealed $7.95 promo when i stopped by there, so i'm only 5 months behind the world. the only 50's/60's female country voices i REALLY like, Norma Jean and Jean Shepard, fall exactly into that same vocal style/sound, so at least i'm consistent in being such a hata.
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 26 August 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
btw, gretchen's skoal ring is suddenly quite controversial:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/12475890.htm
― xhuxk, Friday, 26 August 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 27 August 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 27 August 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
yep, this is what it's about, it turns out -- dude also has a confederate flag hat according to the lyrics, and brooks and dunn are clearly poking fun at him, not identifying with him. very, very good track, as is the dice-roll one that thematically reminds me of "do it again" by steely dan (for both gambling and loving a little wild one obsessive-comulsion reasons)
the just another broken promised land song on the native-american homage marty stuart album is pretty great too, total prog-etti western bombast (bombast maybe inspired by darkness at the edge of town? album's called badlands remember) about, apparently, bill clinton visiting the poorest county in the whole usa, apparently a reservation community in south dakota, in the mid/late '90s as part of a war on poverty and promising what could never be delivered, and the FBI, CIA, GOD, etc coming along for the ride. Not sure how accurate the story is (don't recall reading about it in the papers), but it's gripping anyway.
todd snider 1994-98 or whatever best of is more consistiently entertaining and funnier overall and less demo-sounding than the last album by him, even though his version of "allright guy" isn't as good as gary allan's and though "talking seattle grunge rock blues" isn't as funny as "smells like nirvana" by weird al and though the punked up version of "margarittaville" is pretty much a pro forma joke.
terri clark's "slow news day" is giving me mixed feelings, though the chorus sounds great. the words mention *the passion of christ* though not by name, and seem to say it inspired bible-fighting jesus wouldn't approve of, though i dunno if that's supposed to be a criticism of the movie or not. also she seems to fall for the dumb line that journalists avoid reporting "good news" and only report the bad. still, a good track, on a good album. terri's politics may well be not entirely stupid (she's canadian, right?), but I'm not really sure yet.
billy joe shaver's *the real deal* has at least 3 great tracks on it -- "slim chance and the can't hardly playboys," "the real deal," "if the trailer's rockin' don't come knockin," all of which suggest he's got some michael hurley in him and when compared to the album's slower tracks suggest, um, he should probably avoid slower tracks. even the epic murder ballad(s) come off a bit flat. but the flaco jiminez "feliz navidad" collab is fun, and the "i changed my mind" rockabilly is fun, and the "live forever" big & rich collab has beautiful stuff about (rapturous? he also does something called "jesus christ is still the king") ending of the world, and a big-kenny-solo-album-worthy ending. high point of the album, though is the line in "slim chance and the can't hardly playboys" (who'd probably beat ricky and the red streaks in a battle of the bands, i've decided) where (something like) "they got a new single out on Polish Records/and soon it'll be another Polish hit," except it sounds like "pile o' shit" how Billy Joe sings it. Also, maybe the slow songs will grow on me, right?
― xhuxk, Saturday, 27 August 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 27 August 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
anyone heard from Don?
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
the new richard thompson, is it country, can we talk about it here?
i think in many ways its same old thompson, but what he does is so good, and his voice is so rich, that i acn forgive that, its not my favourite of the year by any stretch but its handsome, and much better as elder craftsmen then the yoakham, for example.
and its realy really well written, almost too archtypal and abstract, but good for it
― anthony, Thursday, 1 September 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link
why? just curious. though you are right to hate that one song.
chris cagle: was he ever any good before? the one album i tried listening to before did nothing for me, seemed pretty bleh, but *anywhere but here* due out in early october is good southern rock-via-hair metal-via montgomery gentry stuff. first line on the album has him saying he can play his music as loud as he wants; that song also says don't take my family farm and don't take my job overseas or i'll kick your ass. that's "might wanna think about it," which i like, and i also like "wal-mart parking lot," "anywhere but here," "hey y'all," "when i get there," and the cover of bon jovi's "wanted dead or alive" (also covered by M.G. on a bull-riding association compilation a few years ago), which is track #9, though it's unlisted on the back of the advance CD (which just jumps from #8 to #10), so maybe he didn't get legal clearance for it from jon yet.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Bobby Bare = eh.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't get this, but it made me chuckle anyway.
Marty Stuart's gospel thang on now. I can see what Matt likes about it, maybe. It's all pleasant. One song starts like "Baby Please Don't Go Down To New Orleans." "The Gospel of Noah's Ark" makes me *think* of New Orleans now, sadly, and the music in it has a good sense of space that makes it spookier. Still. Marty is a really dull singer, just like I opined above. This record might be more consistent than his Indian one, which is too messy to painlessly play all the way through, but I still prefer him being pretentious. And I prefer him playing Ennio Morricone guitars to suburban poolhall blues ones. The B-3 imitates a pipe organ okay, I guess. But maybe Marty should get the Mighty Jeremiahs to back him up next time he goes to church.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
What? Brooks & Dunn are into creationism, too? Well, they know their constituents. Sixty percent of Americans think it ought to be taught in schools alongside evolution biology.
As for the vid for "Play Some Country," have to collect on the bounty from the chick in Daisy Dukes. Back to back with Simpson's "These Boots" vid, though, makes it seem a lot better.
Then it morphs into stripper rock bar lite. If the camera stays off Ronnie Dunn playing guitar, it's more convincing. As boogie rock it's OK but there are much better renditions on Luke Stricklin, who's a complete unknown. And if you're going to listen to boogie rock, always best to go for the real thing, hmmm, like Stoney Curtis of Michael Katon. What's nicotine-free boogie rock in country for? Housewives, girls who don't like loud, Faith Hill's backing band on "Mississippi Girl"? (The pick scrapes from them are louder than the rhythm guitar mix on that song.)
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 September 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
im not sure why i hate b&d, i havent even thot about it, its just visceral. i find them derritiave, i think, but i dont really care about that, and i find their voices grating, but its mostly visceral, which isnt cool critically
― anthony, Thursday, 1 September 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 2 September 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 September 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 3 September 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
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― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 September 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 4 September 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Sunday, 4 September 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 4 September 2005 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 September 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Sunday, 4 September 2005 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 4 September 2005 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 4 September 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Sunday, 4 September 2005 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link
So Don, did Aaron change "Coolidge" (which is what Randy's version says, right?) to the more open-ended "The President"? That wold have been cool, I think. Especially on Friday, when the President *did* go down there then leave (but did he have a fat man with him?)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 4 September 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 5 September 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
(wyh opens with aaron singing 'louisiana 1927' in case you haven't heard it, god DAMN)
also, "alcohol" isn't even in my top ten, charlie robison was right about brad paisley, he's a fucking idiot
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 5 September 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Long stem things of beautyCreated by the good LordCut down in the prime of their livesBoxed up, wrapped in paperDelivered to your front doorJust to wind up in your garbage can outside
[Chorus]Tell me how many flowers have to dieBefore you give this love another tryI've asked you to forgive me at least 9 dozen timesTell me how many flowers have to die
I'm crazy and I'm desperateI had you and I blew itAnd right now I've got nothing left to loseI've got a Visa in my walletAnd I'm not afraid to use itHow long the needless violence lastsIs really up to you
[Repeat chorus]
Stop the senseless killingCan't you hear the roses cryBaby, how many flowers have to dieTell me how many flowers have to die
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 5 September 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 5 September 2005 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 5 September 2005 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
just saw a commercial on CMT for a new Crossroads episode with sugarland and jon bon jovi doing, yep, "wanted dead or alive," which (see above) is now officially to commercial country in 2005 what "time has come today" by the chambers bros was to punk rock bands in the early '80s. must be that "i'm a cowboy, on a steel horse i ride" line, which also explains why erika jo wants to cover "every rose has its thorn" ("every cowboy sings a sad sad song.") country artists are hereby encouraged to check out the cowboy campfire hair-metal song paragraph in the power ballad chapter of my second book. how long til one of them covers tesla, i wonder? or better yet, "chip away at the stone" by aerosmith (actually, hot club of cowtown covered that one two years ago, but i want somebody to make it *rock* again. hot club of cowtown's version did at least half pull of the melody, though.) (and even "renegade" by styx can't be too far away at this point, right?)
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
do i have to listen to that fucking jackson song again, just to prove that i might be wrong about its loathsameness?
― anthony, Monday, 5 September 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
She's waiting for me when I get home from workBut things just ain't the sameShe turns out the light and cries in the darkWon't answer when I call her name
Chorus
On the stairs I smoke a cigarette aloneThe Mexican kids are shooting fireworks belowHey, baby, it's the Fourth of JulyHey, baby, it's the Fourth of July
She gives me her cheek when I want her lipsAnd I don't have the strength to goOn the lost side of town in a dark apartmentWe gave up trying so long ago
Repeat Chorus
Whatever happened, I apologizeSo dry your tears and baby, walk outsideIt's the Fourth of July
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 5 September 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Speaking of Jackson, I've only heard "Talking Song" once (seen the vid I mean) and it just struck me as really slight (the video itself, feat. the guys from Yes, Dear is fairly entertaining, can't imagine it being too compelling on the radio).
I do feel some love needs to be given to "As Good As I Once Was" as well - now there's an entertaining video (love the ending). Ditto "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do" (the part about it being a great single, not the video, I mean).
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 5 September 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
also: more listening reveals that billy joe shaver does slow songs (including murder ballads) much better than i suggested above. more listening also reveals that chris cagle does slow songs much worse. (and i still think they both do fast ones pretty good.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 September 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 5 September 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Strangely, I only know this from John Anderson's version (which is great) (as are plenty of other John Anderson tracks, for those of you not already aware of that particular fact.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 5 September 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
unless "little man" is.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, but you could say that about *any* good alan jackson hit (all five of them -- dude really needs a best-of *EP*). it's not like the guy has a personality or anything!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
also when did it start mattering whether or not someone had a personality, did i miss a memo here
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
never knew he had a cult, though. (wow, what a boring cult!)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
ie what did you do when the world stopped turning, the most genuine, heartbreaking discussion of 9/11---better then almost anything that came out of it.
cattaoche, the adlutery epic from like 96, drive, gone country, chasing the neon rainbow.
i dont think that any of those could be done by anyone else,
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 6 September 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd pick "mary lou" by the beehovers, or "i want no country" by jan bell of the maybelles.
>world stopped turning, chatahoochie, drive<
i do like all these songs, though not as much as "little man" or "talking song repair". and still think they could've been sung by pretty much anybody.
>gone country<
always kinda hated this. after many years of hearing it, i now like the verses okay, and still hate the retarded chorus.
>chasing the neon rainbow, the adlutery epic from like 96<
don't remember ever hearing these. (if i did, they must've gone in one ear, out the other. which doesn't necessarily mean they're bad.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
as good as i once was -vs- i love this bar
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Big Fat Drunk Chick With A BoomBox, Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 8 September 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 9 September 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 9 September 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 9 September 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 September 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
wouldn't know how to do this even if I knew which tracks you were talking about, anthony. (you clearly have no idea how anti-mp3 i am.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 September 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 9 September 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
also, i get 50 free CDs in the mail every day, so I don't *need* to download music.
plus I want to SEE it, not just hear it.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 12 September 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
new sawyer brown is long gone already and deservedly so, but just for posterity's sake, let me state here that i liked the completely extraneous jungle sounds at the start of the tarzan and jane song (which otherwise is about one millionth as good as toy box's tarzan and jane song), and they cover georgia satellites a lot worse than john anderson did a few years back, and the only other even remotely notable track (besides the great single w/ robert randolph) had some pun about kentucky in its title which i already forgot.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Ugh, the Danny Elfman showtune-ish theme song at the end seems to suck ass, too. (Though it's really short, and the suburbia-inspired words might be okay -- something about "you can call it Maple Street or Main.") The album is clearly best when it sticks to radio pop and doesn't try to be all genteel and shit.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, why didn't I notice that Deana Carter's The Story of My Life is a coming-out-of-the-closet concept album until now? Did I miss that boat or something? Because listening to it that way has helped me realize just how freakin' great the melodies are, and how soulful her little girl squeak can be. Man, my hermeneutics skillz are all thrown off these days.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
This reading also makes the "we're so shocking" thing (and the "your shirt on my floor / I've never done that before" couplet) more understandable in "Ordinary" and clarifies the Thelma and Louise-istry of "One Day at a Time"...also, it makes "Katie" into a pure sex psalm instead of a tribute-to-a-niece or whatever I thought it was back in March. Also gives a different flavor to the stalking in "She's Good for You"!
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link
jeebus, took you long enough!
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Still, a possible top ten album for me. I can't stop playing it.
Comparing Deana Carter to Aimme Mann kinda creeps me out, though..eek.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
saw Laura Cantrell do a little set last week, with some great Nashville sessioneers and Fats Kaplin, one of the town's better fiddlers. Her songs don't knock me out, except for about three on her new one, but she's obviously intelligent and dignified and all that. But I think "Old Downtown" is one of the best things I've heard all year. I e-mailed Chuck about this earlier: I was really impressed by Bobby Bare Sr. at the Americana Conference. Came across so much better than he does on record, and he was funny as hell and played some loud basic guitar shit that at times wasn't like anything I've ever heard a country artist do. Much better than Marty Stuart and Kenny Vaughn, both amazing guitar players, but their whole thing was shtick, I wish they'd just go all the way into dual-guitar attack like Wishbone Ash or someone. Hokey.
And, given my lack of love for bluegrass, I sure like the new Del McCoury which just arrived here yesterday. The singing is just so knowing and creaky and a bit weird and it sounds like these guys might even have something interesting to say about women problems.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost to chuck: I don't know, I never heard the last Deana Carter album, I don't get 50 CDs a day!
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 15 September 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I want somebody more attuned to drag-queendom to listen to that great Desperate Housewives soundtrack and tell me whether there's a drag-queen aesthetic going on there, somehow. I get the idea there *is*, and when it gets *more* drag-queeny (in the final third) is when the album starts to, well, drag. More gay fans for Shania, Shedaisy, Sara Evans, Martina McBride, and country in general is probably a really cool thing. But if country starts pretending that totally obvious double entendres that 11 year old straight boys might giggle at are hilarious just because they're recited by a man dressed up as a woman or wearing a stupid big blue bunny costume, I'll fucking gag, I swear. (Is that what the Desperate Housewives show is like? It certainly was the operating principle on Sex in the City, the 2 or 3 episodes I saw ranked with the least funny TV I've ever sat through.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually now Desperate Housewives sounds like a Tuesday night at Willie Nelson's house circa 1977.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Well...good! Mostly. Energetic. Lively. Entertaining. Professional and then some. At least the half-show that Sherman (just turned 14 and started high school in NYC last week) stayed for, since we had to get up at 6 the next morning as always nowadays. Slowed down "19th Nervous Breakdown"? Not so good. Sherman liked the Marley cover better than I did. "All Down the Line" and "She's So Cold," very cool. Maybe even "Bitch." And what's that one song? "You Got Me Rocking"?? I dunno. I've never really understood that one's point I guess. We saw them do one ("Sweet Revenge") of the four songs I love most off the new album; supposedly did another ("Oh No Not You Again") of those four later; not sure about "Laughing I Nearly Died" (excellent use of dub space on the album!) or "Look What the Cat Dragged In" (hardest rocking track on the record, btw, and *Rolling Stone* just called it "perfunctory" in a 4 1/2-star review, wtf?) The Keith song we saw was as dull as the ones on the album. Still...lots of fun. Alanis opened. I figured out who she was after four songs!
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
"All Down the Line" was a hoot, though.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 September 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Friday, 16 September 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 17 September 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
always liked the Stones's take on country, from Hank Snow's "I'm Movin' On" way back in Loog Oldham days to "Dead Flowers" and the country side of "Exile." But they always thought it was a joke, didn't they? Or just didn't wanna admit they felt something? Now I gotta go out and buy the new one--wonder if Wal-Mart has it?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 18 September 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 18 September 2005 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 18 September 2005 06:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Right, "Dead Flowers" is great; "Dear Doctor" isn't so. Their country stuff teeters on the edge of joke anyway, as does so much of their music. I like jokes.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 18 September 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 18 September 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Finally admits to not cleaning her room! Daring!
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
isnt kd lang then noting the anti septic "scandal" and opening it up to other interperations, like she did on drag? (or summer fling--named after a camus qoute, meloncholy, but supposed to be light syrupy middle class cocktail piano/
― anthony, Monday, 19 September 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
my big and rich advance wouldn't work on my computer at work, nor on my living room stereo; finally played it in the bedroom a couple times in the background, and yep, noticed the same sam the sham that edd did. also "comin to your city" has them going town to town like chuck berry or the beach boys or whoever, lots of SMALL towns (jeff city, MO!); also shades of those old x and motley crue songs where a bar (aorta bar detroit's main vein) or in this case bar-b-q gets named in every city; funniest line might or might not be "we pulled into kansas and scared marilyn manson" or whatever it is. another song has a girl imitating the "i wanna take my clothes off girl" in the background of nelly's "hot in here." the ballads, in general, might be prettier than the ones on the debut; the long vietnam epic at the end (about november 8, 1965) sounds epic indeed. a few "save a horse" rehashes, too; fine with me. but so far my favorite track is the totally jazzy one in the middle that sounds like the hoosier hot shots and seems (first verse at least) to be a blatant protest against social security privatization (grandma's been saving up her money, now some big man in a big building is going to take it away from her); second verse is about a greedy preacher on tv. but mainly i like its SOUND, which totally gets that proto-western-swing local country yokels trying to be the memphis jug band groove DOWN. sax solo and all. dance party music for a great depression, not a moment too soon....
my two favorite tracks so far on the new live junior brown album are the two longsest -- "hung it up," 8 minutes, quite the jazz workout, and the 9:29 medly of "lullaby of the leaves"/"apache"/"secret agent man"/"bulldog" at the end. (and "apache" = hip hop by now, of course!)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Nah, I don' think so (at least not whilst I was there.) But you left out "Far Away Eyes"! Not that they did that one either....
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 22 September 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I got mine at home right next to my ZZ Top box that looks like a Texas barbecue joint. They're both great! (And I HATE box sets.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
and yeah ch!!! I was so much older then when I wrote that I'm younger than that now
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 23 September 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 September 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Just listened to these both twice in a row and I STILL can't remember them. They sounded ok, though, I guess. Liked Leann's slightly more.
Pulled out the Deana Carter new one for the first time in months this morning, inspired by Scott/Matt/Frank, and it sounded way better than I'd remembered. Could well sneak its way back into my top ten.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, who is Emma Roberts? Just got the CD in the mail; she appears Nickelodeon connected. (Also appears to have nothing to do with country music, but who cares.) It wouldn't play in my computer; gotta take it home I guess. But I really like these song titles: "Punch Rocker," "Say Goodbye to Jr. High," "94 Weeks (Metal Mouth Freak)," "Dummy," "Mexican Wrestler," "New Shoes"! I wonder if Shania has heard that last song. I already want her to be the next Skye Sweetnam or at least Hope Partlow, but she probably isn't, I dunno.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner t., Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Father of a 10 Year Old Girl (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Didn't see it, but we worked this out months ago. Won't post, eh, it's the New York Times, you know, the newspaper where the reporters get to be national spokesmen for stories of the day on the PBS newshour, a special booth existing at the paper (like at other big newspapers) where the logo is on the backdrop so it goes out over the videofeed and feebs will know where the seat of authority is.
Oh no, I chewed the carpet again.
The Crossroads with Sugarland and Bon Jovi showed how much a better singer Nettles is than Jon BJ. Personally, I thought he was muffing/hacking his way through everything but the choruses on the Sugarland tunes. And, again, what's the function of the guy who plays mandolin like air guitar and the parts are only mixed so you can hear them about twice in a set, and then only in the fills and transitions?
Demonstrated you put Sambora guitar and thumping drums -- and it was pretty restrained -- into Sugarland and you have late 80's arena rock and Bad Company legacy software. Faith Hill's "Mississippi Girl" would still be an even finer example with a true hard rock mix.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
He definitely mentioned Garth, and I'm pretty sure he talked about Shania + Mutt too.
I kinda liked his shaggy-rock-revival My Morning Jacket/Magic Numbers thing today too, though I'm not really sure when the rock he calls shaggy and non-neatfreak is ever supposed to have gone away, seeing how Dave Matthews Band (for starters) (who he mentions in relation to My Morning Jacket) are, like, the most popular rock band of the past decade or whatever they are. Also, that new MMJ CD, the one time I played it, seemed if anything *less* shaggy than earlier stuff I heard by them (also *maybe* more interesting; I'm not sure yet). And Magic Numbers strike me as pretty darn Brit-pop for a band than people think play country rock (which people think about MMJ too, so see, they are not out of place on the country thread after all) So I'm not buying Kelefah's arguments, but I still like that he has them.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner trieschmann, Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
WHERE'S MY COUNTRY? I like country music, so I watch a lot of CMT (Country Music Television). I’ve written about it, too, in “Those 9/11 Songs” and in “Love Your Country.” I used to think CMT offered a popular alternative to the usual lefty cultural sensibility reigning on MTV and VH1. I don’t think that so much anymore. CMT has been running Neil Young’s new video “I’m Walkin’ to New Orleans.” It’s a remake of the old Fats Domino tune, with video that tries to pin blame on George Bush.
Now “I’m Walkin’ to New Orleans" isn’t a country song. And Neil Young sure as heck ain’t no country music star. The famous Lynyrd Skynyrd song “Sweet Home Alabama” hits back at Young for blaming George Wallace on the whole South (in Young’s “Southern Man”). But now CMT is using a Neil Young song for a blatant political attack on President Bush. Even CMT’s most hawkish war songs don’t level attacks against named dovish Democratic politicians. This is the most blatantly political video I’ve ever seen on CMT, and it’s by a non-country singer who’s famous for hating the South.
This isn’t an isolated incident. It’s been clear for some months now that CMT’s cultural politics have been shifting to the left. They had a special, for example, featuring Jimmy Carter and his friendship with Willie Nelson. The program was fine, but I haven’t seen any comparable programing featuring Republican or conservative political figures. And CMT now runs an alternative music country program, “Wide Open Country.” It’s good at times, although a lot of the material is surprising weak and/or rock oriented. It would be nice to see a religious country program along side the alternative country show, but don’t expect that kind of diversity from CMT. Even if I can’t remember every example, I know I’ve seen a number of other signs of a cultural shift left on CMT lately.
CMT is owned by Viacom, the same company that owns MTV and VH1. Up to now, they’ve been reasonably separate operations. But it’s beginning to look as though the cultural left has decided to use CMT to try to proselytize the South. They’re also trying to push the country audience closer to rock. Up to a point, I have no problem with the rock angle. I generally like the Crossroads series on CMT, which pairs country stars with rock stars. Even so CMT is getting pushed to the musical, cultural, and political left, as the Young video shows. I love country music video’s, but maybe it’s time to break out the old radio.
That tirade was followed up today by a plug for the GAC video channel, which apparently shows the Grand Ole Opry and, on Sunday mornings, religious videos. (Which you could get on BET, if you wanted.)
Any thoughts?
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
It does. I haven't seen the "lefty" slant and I'm a lefty. One Young video. Wow. Dukes of Hazzard reruns have been showing at nausea provoking level. The Warren Brothers' "country rock reality" show was on quite a bit too, recently. They're about as lefty as Arnold Ziffle and Vic Missy. They also have been showing a lot of good 'ol wretched modern cowboy-type movies from the 80's and 90's.
Even CMT’s most hawkish war songs don’t level attacks against named dovish Democratic politicians.
Who cares. Should they? Would be different if a cowardly Dem were President?
It’s good at times, although a lot of the material is surprising weak and/or rock oriented
A great deal of CMT is "rock oriented," not just wide open country.
They’re also trying to push the country audience closer to rock
Guy appears to have just started watching CMT. Or he's engaging in distortion for the sake of the essay.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
I dunno. Maybe the country artists think that subjects like "Hillary Clinton is a lezzy and had Vince Foster bumped off" make for things that are easy to sing good hooks to. Or "the indictment of Tom 'the Hammer' Delay is politically motivated."
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Haven't seen the Warren Bros show either, though I liked their 3rd album last year. Seemed kinda cranky stodgy kneejerk liberal-baiting in an old dennis leary kinda it's-hard-to-get-a-regular-old-coffee-in-this-newfangled-sissy-latte-world way in a song or two, but i figured that was just dumb opportunism. wouldn't mind hearing more about their politics.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Big and Rich! Wow, just wait until he hears "Filthy Rich" on the new album.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Dukes of Hazzard. One episode had them drag racing an orange-painted shit mobile against a replica of the General Lee. Another, writing lyrics for Van Zant. Another, writing a song for somebody. Another, riding motorcycles with the Aussie dude. Real brain-rotting stuff, even by music channel standards.
The latest Montgomery Gentry vid has them going on about their paw gittin' back from a war where he was flying with his bud in F-15s and the bud didn't make it home. Nice fiction. F-15s only saw combat against Iraq in the two wars and I don't think any have ever been lost to enemy action, although a couple might have been shot down by misfiring Patriots in Iraqi Freedom. Mustangs would've been a better a choice, but then they'd be grandchildren.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner t., Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Creepiest and yet (or maybe therefore) probably the most interesting in that MG F-15 song is the one about "we were something-something and dirt-floor poor/'Course, that was back *before* the war" or however it goes, apparently implying that war breeds prosperity, just like in the old days. (Oh, *that's* why we're over there. Thanks, guys!)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, recruiters could use the song. That's the message, anyway, in the recruiting commercials. Hey, stuck in the go nowhere minwage job in your small town? Join the Ahmee and we'll train you in tech skills and such and maybe even pay for an education and then it's on down the road to prosperity with you. Of course, there's this one little thing we want you to do first. It worked on Lynndie England.
Jessica Lynch, too, for that matter. And she is now prosperous.
O' course, the country audience isn't exactly the CEO class at Martin/Marrietta, Lockheed or Halliburton, unfortunately. Or even CEO class in the oil companies. Some of them do probably work on the assembly lines in armaments manufacture but they enjoy more job security than big deal prosperity.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 29 September 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
no, i CAN'T imagine etc
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 September 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 29 September 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Red Lorre Yellow Lorre, Friday, 30 September 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link
in Spanish "jefe" means boss or head of an organization, if I remember rightly, so I would venture to say that "jefe de jefes" would be "boss of bosses," or big dog..."jefatura" is "headquarters."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
xp
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Friday, 30 September 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
oh and let's talk about this: Ezequiel Pena's new record, Nuestra Tradicion: La Charreria, is an hour-long album of old Mexican cowboy and rodeo songs, done full-orchestra and/or small group banda, horse sounds breaking in sometimes, total ay yi yi stuff, countrier than country could ever be
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 30 September 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 September 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 30 September 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 30 September 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 1 October 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 2 October 2005 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 October 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 October 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 October 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 October 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 October 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I found the Amy Rigby song about Joey Ramone real embarrassing, but I like some of her new one, and I guess with her, that first record was pretty much unrepeatable, a moment in her life that falls into that home-truths category of things that need to be said once, maybe. She's an awfully nice and deserving person, though, and I always found her engaging when I saw her live here and once playing for a bar full of fratboys in Oxford, Miss.--she actually got them to listen, which was impressive. But I don't hear what Christgau is so up on either, even though I find it perfectly enjoyable.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 2 October 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 2 October 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
1) funny, the track that kinda put me in the mind of the statler bros was "never mind me", where john (i think it's john) is on a ledge not about to jump but just looking at the stars, and you shouldn't worry about him (even if he's sleeping with your best friend), he's doing fine just counting flowers on the wall and playing solitaire with a deck of 51 (though he doesn't say that).2) i hear that one and "i pray for you", i think it was, as having this spare, almost drum-machined '80s blue-eyed soul ballad sound: like paul young in "every time i go away," maybe? i guess that's closer than daryl hall or john waite (actually, it's between). though i'm starting to think hall&oates might actually be a c&w influence these days, on say brooks&dunn's more r&b-ish stuff for instance.3) odd that, despite all these interesting rhythmic stuff going on underneath, "jalapeno" still comes off kinda clunky, somehow. also heavier, i'd guess, than anything sam the sham ever did.4) "soul shaker" is basically a straight boogie, not as heftily kicking a one as montgomery gentry or shooter jennings or the kentucky headhunters might do, but good. i was wondering why it reminded me of ac/dc, and then i realized, duh, the title! also the cult, though i always thought ian astbury was yelling "SALT shaker!"5) the song that starts with the heavy riff and i thought went limp after that is "blow my mind", the one that edd loves, and yeah, it's way better than i thought, sort of flighty fiddle pyschedelia, and like lots of the ballad stuff here, maybe closer to the slow songs on big kenny's solo album than the ones on b&r's previous duo joint.6) they've got this cool jesus in the sky with diamonds kind of christian mysticism going on in stuff like "leap of faith" and "i pray for you," seems to me -- even more than before. nicely balanced with their swipe at greedy TV preachers in "filthy rich."7) "caught in the moment" (the nelly one) (about a one-night stand basically, though it seems to end in a vegas wedding, unless that's a different couple) and "20 margaritas" are pretty cornball, almost in a regular sub-b&r pop-country way, but i don't mind much.8) is it my imagination, or do john and kenny do the thing where they both sing every single line together way less often than they did last time out? i think it's not my imagination.9) "filthy rich" is still my favorite song (so far).
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 October 2005 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 October 2005 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 October 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I heard "Sacred Songs" yrs ago, Don, and remember it being OK, and the connection to Fripp's production of things like the Roches tune about goin' down to Hammond makes sense to me, altho in Nashville they'd probably approach that kind of production from the angle of Swamp Eno, Dan'l Lan-wa, right? Maybe something like Sara Evans' "Otis Redding" *kinda* gets some way toward that...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Looks like Shelly Fairchild's playing here soon, might be worth seeing, eh Don?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Orville Davis *Barnburner* has a cool CD cover and great title, but the deadassed music once again confirms why alt-country sucks. The Dixie Bee-Liners sound slightly more lively, but probably still not a (bee?) keeper; Todd Fritsch CD might be one, though. We'll see.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I like this one a lot! his voice sounds really good. and, yeah, the playing, the guitars, all sound really cool.
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
And Jenni Rivera's new Mexican-border tuba-polka banda-pop joint *Parranda, Rebelde Y Atrevida* sounds awesome, just like her last one. also, she appears to be built like a brick shithouse, and seems to enjoy letting it all hang out and posing with bottles of hard liquor, since she does the former at least twice and the latter at least three time on the CD cover and in the attached booklet. and that doesn't count the bathtub photo, or the one where she has a gun!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Big Fat Drunk Chick With A BoomBox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
"The Best I Ever Had," the single from Gary Allan's album, is growing on me; nice eerie use of space in the sound. But I wasn't kidding in calling it an emo ballad -- Kelefa, who loves it way more than I do, reports that it was originally done by Vertical Horizon. Interesting.
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link
ALBUMS1. Miranda Lambert2. Deana Carter3. Big & Rich4. Jamie O'Neal5. Shooter Jennings6. *Desperate Housewives*7. Dallas Wayne8. Brooks & Dunn9. Gary Allan10. J.D. Blackfoot(also conceivably in the running: Reckless Kelly, Duhks, Kentucky Headhunters, Mighty Jeremiahs, Dierks Bentley, Cowboy Troy. None of the Mexican albums I've mentioned on this thread strike me as quite country enough, but Jenni Rivera would have a shot if she was.)
SINGLES1. Shooter Jennings - "4th of July"2. Miranda Lambert - "Kerosene"3. Dierks Bentley - "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"4. Kentucky Headhunters - "Big Boss Man"5. Erika Jo - "I Break Things"6. Deana Carter - "The Girl You Left Me For"7. Mazey Gardens and the Brick Hit House Band - "Callin' in Dead"8. Toby Keith - "As Good As I Once Was"9. Brad Paisley - "Alcohol"10. Tim McGraw - "Drugs or Jesus"(also in the running: Kenny Chesney "Anything But Mine," Leann Womack "I May Hate Myself in the Morning", Saywer Brown with Robert Randolph "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand," Montgomery Gentry "Something to Be Proud Of," Big & Rich "Comin' To Your City," Cowboy Troy "I Play Chicken With the Train.")
REISSUES1. *Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows: 1926-1937*2. *You Ain't Talkin to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music*3. David Allen Coe *Penitentiary Blues*4. *The Dukes of Hazzard*5. Terry Allen *Silent Majority: Terry Allen's Greatest Missed Hits*
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 October 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 October 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
I think it's fucking great. I do, I like the song. It's so thoroughly American.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 8 October 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 October 2005 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Also in my 5-CD changer this morning: The new Merle Haggard, which is out on Capitol Records of all places. Sounds nice, thanx to his voice which astoundingly still holds up, but the songs don't seem as good as his last couple. Looks from the lyric sheet there's a couple political songs, but I haven't noticed hearing them -- one about how there's no freedom in the USA anymore, because, uh, we're not free to post the Ten Commandments anymore, okaaaaaay......and another apparently about how we should get out of Iraq and "Rebuild America First" (that's the title). But I've only read those; haven't heard them yet.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 October 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 October 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Is it? Seems oddly consistent to me -- I'm pretty sure I like the first six tracks and the last two (the closer "Tear It All Down" rocks enough to earn its title). But still, something's holding me back from it. Maybe I just need to play it in a car sometime, and it'll all kick in. Anyway, Don, I'm really curious which tracks you *don't* like; maybe I'm overrating a few.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, usually when you walk in Guitar Center there will be one right near the counter or in the glass display case. Was a great amp for my grad school apartment. An unbeatable idea which many have tried to copy, a couple with success, namely Roland with the Micro-Cube, which is roughly the same size and serves the exact same purpose.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 8 October 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 October 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Oddly, sitting on a table now about three feet from my typing hand is the Pignose I bought as a gift for my better half at a guitar store in Quakertown, PA two years ago. She loves it.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 9 October 2005 06:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Yep, that''s why. But OK, I get it now. Though I still don't know how you can burn onto an album that already exists! Though I guess you mean burn onto a burn. Or a rip. Or whatever. It's all Greek to me here in my cave.
Best parts of the Todd Fritsch CD (ie, the most Western swinging parts, generally) could be George Strait in 1984, when I still liked him and he wasn't a boring supposed superstar yet. Said parts may or may not be few and far between though.
Switchback are as much Matchbox 20 as Nickelback or U2 actually. I don't mind (I actually liked a couple Matchbox hits, believe it or not), but I like their early U2 mode best.
My Morning Jacket's new one's best parts remind me more of the mid '60s Who (via Paul Weller maybe?) or early '70s Elton (including a blatant "Bennie and the Jets" quote toward the end of the first song) than of Southern rock, though there's a real good Neil Young style guitar-jam solo somewhere. I like when the singer does his white soul vocals. Worst parts sound like quiet indie rock tweedium. I like more tracks on it than I don't, though.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 9 October 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
The Pignose is very much a jack-of-all trades, a Swiss army knife. The price is so ridiculous there's almost no obstacle to not having one at some point. Indeed, Pignose has actually made a stage amp for long time, too.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 9 October 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
xxpp
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 October 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 10 October 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
It would sound good if you use the right mike and have some technique and compress it just the right way to capture the Pig's EQ not totally overdriven/saturated which is as well-matched to harmonica just as it is guitar. Anything bluesy really. You'd really dig a SansAmp for the same thing but that's a slightly different kettle of fish and another one hundred smacks. Another Swiss army knife of pop rock.
Now, why isn't Sheryl Crow's "Wildflowers" here? First three cuts would sound great on CMT, the best being "Good is Good." What's great about these are the guitar sounds mixed with fiddle and orchestra. The tones are gorgeous, crashing down on you in waves. Man, I'm angry. All I get as promos are a dribble of crusty-sounding extreme metal bands and semi-shitty altie acts (can you say The New Lou Reeds [eyes roll up in head]?) so that when something classicly great sounding arrives at the laser, tears come from the stone, the cats dance and the woodwork weaps.
Not too excited about the rest of it yet but the uptempo "rock" song rocks and it's batting as good as Hope Partlow.
And why are all the fiddles mixed higher than the guitars in Wilson's "All Jacked Up" when everyone makes like they're playing righteous guitar in the bar in the video?!?!??!?!?!?!? And what's with the little people imitating Big & Rich? That's a Kid Rock thing, right? No wonder Peter Dinklage always looks like he's majorly pissed off in Threshold.
Billy Barty died for somebody's sins but not mine.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 10 October 2005 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 10 October 2005 06:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 10 October 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
I think they're missing a great lead guitarist who would open things up; I like Willy Braun's vocals, and upon reflection I like their *words* more than anything. I guess I also like the way they play and the fact that they don't show off, and when I compared them to some kinda powerpop thing a while back I was hearing a cool kind of structuralism in their songs, like, to my powerpoppy ears, "Wretched Again" sorta equalled Big Star's "She's a Mover." In short, they seem to be thinking about what they're doing more than a lot of alt-folks, and they seem tough without making a big deal out of it, which I find refreshing. And I do like them better than most Drive-By Truckers I've heard, too.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 October 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 10 October 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 October 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner t., Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
"'Best I Ever Had' wasn't written by Mr. Allan; it was written by Matthew Scannell, from the legendarily tepid rock band Vertical Horizon, which recorded it for a 1999 album."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
SINGLES:Deana Carter "The Girl You Left Me For"Miranda Lambert "Kerosene"Shooter Jennings "4th of July"Jo Dee Messina "My Give a Damn's Busted"Miranda Lambert "Bring Me Down"Dierks Bentley "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"Kentucky Headhunters "Big Boss Man"Miranda Lambert "Me and Charlie Talking"[Julie Roberts "Wake Up Older"][Brad Paisley "Whiskey Lullaby'}
The two in brackets are really from last year. I was thinking maybe I could count Kultur Shock's "Tutti Frutti" as country, since Bosnia is a country, but I decided that that reasoning was specious. If Jamie O'Neal's "Devil to the Left" becomes (or is) a single, I'll vote for it, though I've so far been bored by the album. If the title track to Lee Ann Womack's There's More Where that Came From becomes/is a single, I might vote for that too (much more intense than the Morning Hate song, which I count as last year anyway). I really need to listen to more country, but first I have to persuade myself to take a break from the reggaeton station.
ALBUMS:Deana Carter The Story of My LifeMiranda Lambert KeroseneBig & Rich Comin' To Your CityBobby Bare The Moon Was BlueShooter Jennings Put the O Back in CountryGene Watson Then & NowThe Maybelles White Trash JennyThe Mighty JeremiahsLee Ann Womack There's More Where that Came FromElizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands Happy Doing What We're Doing
I agree with Chuck that this year's Gene Watson is less distinctive than last year's ...Sings (though I can't look at that title without being reminded of the time when Richard Lilly, employee at the Strand Book Store, took a book of Louise Nevelson's paintings, pasted the letters S-I-N-G-S as a semimoon underneath the name "Louise Nevelson" to create the title "Louise Nevelson Sings," and put the book on display in the front window). So far I've only listened to a few tracks from the Little Big Town and a few from the Gretchen Wilson (same ambivalent reaction as Werner), and none from the Gary Allan. I might well be underrating the Big & Rich. Or overrating it. The Miranda Lambert album includes a few shrugworthy tracks, but her voice is enticing regardless, maybe as good as Natalie's. I haven't heard (or seen) the Desperate Housewives; also haven't heard the Dallas Wayne or the Brooks & Dunn or the Reckless Kelly or the Toby Keith or the Kenny Chesney.
REISSUES:You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music
Haven't yet listened to Penitentiary Blues, but the liner notes are the pisser:
FOR THE FIRST 90 DAYS OF YOUR FREEDOM... FUCK ONLY PROSTITUTES. NEVER FUCK THE SAME ONE TWICE. "I ain't never bought no pussy in my life," you say! WELL, NOW IS THE TIME TO START! All you need is some pussy, right? YOU DON'T NEED ALL THE OTHER SHIT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. So pay for the pussy and go on about your business at least until your emotions become stable enough to deal with a relationship that demands emotional stability.
REMEMBER... YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON YOU WILL EVER COME INTO CONTACT WITH WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR FUTURE. NO ONCE CAN SHAPE YOUR FUTURE BUT YOURSELF, AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CAUSE YOU TO GO BACK TO PRISON.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
The album's not bad, really, but I loved some of the last one, while I barely notice this one. "Intentional Heartache" is my favorite by far, especially the part where the exasperated husband dons a bossy voice and orders his wife to put down the spray gun she's defacing his possessions with. But the guy is shouting and hectoring, not singing. Another cut starts with this Brit-accented earnest-announcer type (is he someone from TV whom I should know about, or is it Dwight playing dressup with his voice?), like some Monty Python madman keeping a calm façade. But once the singing starts, the track becomes forgettable. Christgau once called Yoakam the world's only honky-tonk purist, which doesn't make sense to me at all - Yoakam's no more a purist than Elvis Costello is (at least not current Yoakam; I don't know what if anything I've heard from his lettuce days). Edd's closer to the mark when he calls Yoakam a "mean old formalist," which is to say Yoakam likes to play with forms: he doesn't inhabit his music so much as he deploys it. I'm sure I couldn't explain this in musical terms; probably something in his vocal timbre. The title track on Population Me was both gorgeous and intense while at the same time you could imagine that Dwight was barely stifling guffaws - reminds me of the mid-'60s Kinks ("Harry Rag" in particular), played much stronger but sounding much less wicked: I can't really imagine Dwight inventing a "whole 'nother way to hate" (Chuck's description of "Well Respected Man," "Dedicated Follower of Fashion," "Sunny Afternoon," and "I'm Not Like Everybody Else").
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
The Sexually Perverted Guard: is censored. Missing, "They are the worst of all! Using their authority to make young men suck them off.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 13 October 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, my Scene poll album list would look like this right now:
1-Deana Carter, Story of My Life2--Big & Rich, Comin' to Your Town3--Lee Ann Womack, There's More Where That Came From4--Reckless Kelly, Wicked Twisted Road5--Maybelles, White Trash Jenny6--Blaine Larsen, Off to Join the World7--Gene Watson, Then and Now8--Miranda Lambert, Kerosene9--Sara Evans, Real Fine Place10--Dwight Yoakam, Blame the Vain
with Gary Allan, Shooter Jennings, Elizabeth McQueen (but OK, "Happy Doing" is a country album in sensibility or musical style? not that I'm all that worried about absolute categories, but...) and Laura Cantrell all with a good chance of moving into that Yoakam slot or elsewhere. I wasn't totally knocked out by all of Larsen's record, but I do think it's somehow significant on a kinda extra-musical level--subject matter--and that the kid tapped into something really important in this fucked-up American year, you know? A really good high-school record, which I think we need more of. And I like the way he sings. Cantrell's record contains a couple of, to my ears, pretty great songs/recordings, sometimes it strikes me as a bit prim, but I think her Lucinda Williams cover is good, maybe as good as Bettye LaVette's. Maybe it's me being sentimental, but I think Cantrell's "Old Downtown," about Nashville, is just superb in concept and execution.
Singles so far:
1--Dierks, Lot of Leavin'2--Brad Paisley, Alcohol3--Cowboy Troy, I Play Chicken 4--Miranda, Kerosene5--Erika Jo, I Break Things6--Deana Carter, The Girl You Left Me For7--Keith Anderson, XXL8--Tim McGraw, Drugs or Jesus9--Big &, Comin' to Your Town10--Jo Dee, My Give a Damn's Broken
I didn't like "Pickin' Wildflowers" all that much, didn't think the single from Evans' "Real Fine Place" was all that single-y, and actually found Jennings's "Fourth of July" my least favorite song on a record that I didn't like at first, and now think I was wrong about.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link
1. [tie] Marty Stuart, Soul's Chapel1. [tie] Del McCoury Band, The Company We Keep1. [tie] Deana Carter, The Story of My Life1. [tie] Banda el Recodo, Hay Amor5. Ezequiel Peña, Nuestra Tradición: La Charrería6. Dallas Wayne, I'm Your Biggest Fan7. Jessi Alexander, Honeysuckle Sweet8. Marty Stuart, Badlands 9. Robbie Fulks, Georgia Hard10. Doug Cox & Sam Hurrie, Hungry Ghosts (just got this, which replaces Grupo Exterminador & Lee Ann Womack)
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
The word is that Yolanda's record is banda with two hip-hop tracks and one reggaeton jam!
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Er, not according to his website (scroll down):
http://www.martystuart.com/Z-Art-Misc-RCJournal-6-24-05.htm
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.martystuart.com/Index.htm
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I won't be as presumptuous as to post a potential Scene ballot here, until I know if I might be able to vote this year (but my country single of the year might be George + Dolly's "The Blues Man")...
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
01 Keith Anderson – Three Chord Country and American Rock 'n' Roll (am I really the only one who thinks this is fantastic?)02 Lee Ann Womack - There's More Where That Came From03 Toby Keith - Honky Tonky University04 Jason Aldean - s/t (see #1, just a bunch of well-written songs)05 Miranda Lambert - Kerosene06 Shooter Jennings - Put the "O" Back in Country07 Elizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands - Happy Doing What We're Doing08 Nickel Creek - Why Should the Fire Die?09 Shelly Fairchild - Ride10 Deana Carter - The Story of My Life
***still need to hear Big and Rich, Dallas Wayne, Maybelles, Jamie O'Neal***
01 Shooter Jennings - "4th of July"02 Toby Keith - "As Good As I Once Was"03 Brad Paisley - "Alcohol"04 Dierks Bentley - "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"05 Big and Rich - "Big Time"06 Lee Ann Womack - "I May Hate Myself in the Morning"07 Deana Carter - "The Girl You Left Me For"08 Keith Anderson - "XXL"09 Joe Nichols - "What's a Guy Gotta Do?"10 Jason Aldean - "Hicktown"
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
And yeah, Brinsley and Ducks were kinda country, alt-country in gestation--I wonder how many people picked up on that McQueen record? I mean I don't know anyone around here who's even heard of it/her, which is a shame. Anyway, that one and Bettye LaVette's and Thea Gilmore's should have their own categories for cover records, and Martina I guess would have to be in there too, even though I can't bring myself to listen to hers quite yet.
I love "XXL" from Anderson's record, but find most of it borderline. To my ears, some truly...interesting... vocalizing, but maybe the effect is deliberate or something. The song abut pederasts and Jesus is...ahh...
Once I convince Sharon to give me the Charlie Poole for my birthday here soon, I'll be able to say something about it. The Coe will probably make list of reissues. I wish to hell someone would do up Gary Stewart's "Your Place or Mine" and his pre-RCA Kapp/Decca singles. xp
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Pinson, Man Like Me2. Lambert, Kerosene3. Big & Rich, Comin' To Your City4. Womack, There's More Where That Came From5. Allan, Tough All Over6. Aldean, Aldean7. Paisley, Time Well Wasted8. Sara Evans, Real Fine Place9. Hayes Carll, Little Rock10. Anderson, Three Chord yadda yadda
SinglesPlay Chicken with the TrainAlcoholDon't Ask Me How I KnowKeroseneBring Me DownHicktown
Must hear Carter and Wayne and McQueen I'm sure others I am forgetting at the moment. Could, actually likely, that Lambert will move to top spot once I hear again.
― werner t., Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 14 October 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
never quite gotten into the NRBQ cult. Bonnie Raitt, did she not do "Me and the Boys"? I know lots of Q fanatics. saw them live once, struck me as really forced jollity and uneasy take on pop with those Terry Adams Monk/Sun Ra-isms just too all over the place for me. But I think Christgau was dead-on when he said "Tapdancin' Bats" is the one to get; never heard their stuff with Carl Perkins and Skeeter Davis--wasn't one of those guys *married* to her? I find that as interesting as the fact that Marty Stuart is married to Connie Smith, a real good-looking woman (not that Marty Stuart doesn't have some great hair). By all means, seek out the low-budget '67 film "Road to Nashville" with Marty Robbins, Connie Smith, Doodles Weaver and Johnny Cash--a dream cast.
thanks Don--got the Big K/Jon today, intact. I'm sure this is gonna help me.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 14 October 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 15 October 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― bardo bardot, Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Altogether, they seem paler than last time, though I like a lot nonetheless.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Like last time, the hell-raisin' lyrics and the been-broken-down lyrics don't acknowledge one another, though maybe the line about Marilyn Manson occupies a border line, tries to claim that Big & Rich's own hell raisin' is hell scarin', too. They're trying to have it both ways, which I highly approve of as an aesthetic strategy, since it's what the Stones did throughout the '60s and Eminem did in 2000 - except that the Stones and Eminem get you, or at least me, to see the contradictions, while Big & Rich ignore the contradictions while still trying to cash in on their own supposed contrariness. Which may be why I don't care about Big & Rich to anything like the degree I once cared about the Stones and Eminem.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Also: Okay, maybe "I May Hate Myself In the Morning" does not have explicit cheating words per se. But who says cheating sex is by definition more intense than sex with an ex (which might be more its ballywick)? (On the other hand, again, the title cut does have Lee Ann loving a little wild one and it brings her only sorrow yet she goes back Jack do it again wheels turing round and round. So I am not necessarily *arguing* with Frank, either.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Lee Ann Womack "There's More Where That Came From" vs. Brooks & Dunn "One More Roll of the Dice"
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I think they're talking about Jessico White there in Charleston WV--he's a cloggin' dancer from around there whose video, called something like "Mountain Outlaw," I think, was a big hipster fave a few years back, seems like I saw it first maybe ten years ago. He dances in a trailer there in WV with a wife with whom he has a fraught relationship, I believe there might have been a weight issue as Jessico is skinny and his wife is not, is the way I think it worked. is obsessed with Elvis, etc. I'm pretty sure that's who they mean. That video, every party I went to for a year, someone had it and tried to make me watch it again. But it is pretty funny. Big & Rich mention WV at least twice on their record--trying to get it to go back Democrat maybe?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
that Dallas Wayne CD is terrific though, just listened to it (and him) for the first time today - wish there were more country singers around who were still that lyrically clever (well, Toby Keith is, but I don't know many others)
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 17 October 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I am, however, so out of it when it comes to celebrity clog-dancers it's not funny. Never heard of Jesco White before, not even once!
George is right about the new Sheryl Crow album. I was worried (from reading *Billboard* notices I think) it was going to be too "intropective" (read: quiet and boring), but it's really not, at all. "Good is Good," George's favorite track and probably mine too, sounds kind of like "The Night The Lights Went Out in Georgia." And there's a cut near the end that I was sure sounded like "Someone Saves My Life Tonight," and then Sheryl started telling me how "butterflies are free to fly," so I guess she agrees! Still bummed she was never in any of my classes back at Mizzou, though.
Listened to the new Anthony Hamilton single "Can't Let Go" three times, and it left no impression at all. Well, it's "tasteful," I guess; ho hum. I wonder if Matt likes it. Doubt he'd consider it country, though. (I sure don't.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 October 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 October 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
By the way, the most difficult part of my Nasvhille Scene ballot is going to be where the ask me to vote for "best country songwriters," which I'm not real good at determining, since I tend not to read CD booklets as often as I should (or at least I tend to skip the names in parentheses). So anybody who wants to go back and tally up the songwriters for every song and and album I say I like on this thread and compute from there who I should vote for is more than welcome.
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 October 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I think that the Alicia Keys / Adam Levine duet of "Wild Horses" from her new Unplugged album can be discussed here. With one chord change at the end of the chorus, they keep bouncing it back toward soul music, but it's still country yo
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner t., Monday, 17 October 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
"Bobbie Ann Mason," Rick Trevino - Is the girl this baby-faced, oversized-hatted, Tejano-moonlighting country hunk remembers from high school the same Bobbie Ann Mason who wrote *In Country* and *Love Life Stories*? Beats me, but this is like Saywer Brown's "Some Girls Do" and Alabama's "Cheap Seats"--a good 1982-style John Cougar song that might actually rock me if it was played on John Cougar instruments instead of country instruments. (7.5)
In another issue three years earlier (1992), country songs I gave scores 7.0 and higher (out of 10) to: Lorrie Morgan Something in Red 9.0, Lorrie Morgan Faithfully 9.0, Lorrie Morgan's haircut 10.0, Tinnita's haircut 9.5, Tinnita song I didn't know the name of 7.5, Neal McCoy Where Forever Begins 7.0 (I compared him to the cowboy from the Village People! And honestly, I've been confusing him with Cowboy Troy lately! I also reviewed him up against dance act Real McCoy for Eye Weekly once!), Sawyer Brown Some Girls Do 8.0, Billy Ray Cyrus Achy Breaky Heart 8.5, John Anderson When It Comes To You 7.5, Hal Ketchum Past the Point of Rescue 7.5, Mary Chapin Carpenter Down at the Twist and Shout 7.0, Travis Tritt Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man 7.5, Little Texas You and Forever Me 7.0.
Lowest scores I gave to country songs that issue: Rodney Crowell Lovin' All Night 0.0 (but I said his ex-wife had a 7.5 hairdo once), Sammy Kershaw Cadillac Style 1.5, Travis Tritt and Marty Stuart This One's Gonna Hurt You 1.0, Billy Joel All Shook Up 0.5, ZZ Top Viva Las Vegas 2.5, Patti Loveless Jealous Bone 2.0, Lyle Lovett She's Already Made Up Her Mind 0.0, Lyle Lovett's haircut 0.5.
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 17 October 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
1. There is a guy named Craig Sellers who says he covers Jerry Reed's "Amos Moses" almost every show he does. I never heard of him.
2. There is a band called the Povertyneck Hillbillies operating out of Pittsburgh. They play 205 shows are year, and apparently have a following on the East Coast. Great name! But I never heard of them.
3. Shooter Jennings wishes he wrote "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Leon Russell, who I have never paid any attention to at all, though I've always kind of loved "Tight Rope."
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
He covers "Amos Moses" almost every frigging show, Don! Duh!!! (i.e., any friend of Jerry Reed might be a friend of mine! Unless he isn't.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Chuck, don't give up on the Banner album; the best two songs are the final two.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
My second favorite song is the two's-a-crowd one, though it's not as intense as the Stones' two's-a-crowd song. And her "The Last Time" isn't nearly as intense as the Stones'.
As the album goes on, it does kind of blah out a bit: I describe the problem as songs "resolving" too easily, though I don't really know if that's it, or even quite what I mean: something like a chord change too soon, or background instruments entering too soon, or their leaving too soon, or returning to sonic, or her voice cracking when it should have stayed steady, or returning to steadiness when it should have cracked more. So tension is declared to early and released too quickly, or something. (I have the same problem with some of the Miranda Lambert album, actually, though less of it, and her whipcrack voice tends to overcome the tensionless arrangements anyway.)
I heard the Lee Ann Womack back at the same time as the Mary Gauthier, and I had the idea that the two singers should - as an experiment - simply trade albums, arrangements and all. This is because Gauthier has the opposite problem: she goes for so much tension - voice and life teetering on the edge, always, her voice cracking so much that it's just one shattered mess - that all the tension piled upon tension is ultimately tensionless. It's as if she heard the second Velvets album and felt the results but didn't sit down and figure out how the Velvets got those results. So my idea is that Womack could pull the Gauthier material back from ridiculousness and formlessness, whereas Gauthier's pain-wracked weariness could work well when reined-in by the overformed Womack songs. The one track I really like on the Gauthier is the most conventionally formulaic one: "I Drink." Her version is better than Blake Shelton's.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
According to *Billboard*, the new Brooks & Dunn single is "Believe," a/k/a the "argument from design" one I mentioned somewhere above, which would appear to mean the first two singles off their new album are officially the two shittiest tracks on the record. Assholes. I wonder how much the new one will get played in Dover, PA, if there is indeed a country station there. (And I guess I can dock them Nashville Scene top ten points because of this, right? Fine with me -- the new Gary Allan is sounding better every day.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
"returning to sonic" should be "returning to tonic"
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I recall the lyrics being too lazy and stupid and full of fake self-esteem. "Boondocks" is, anyway. The melodies are consistently good. So's the overall vibe, really. A stronger album than my description conveys. They've got the stuff, they just don't know how to kick it home.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
My favorite Lee Ann Womack ones are the ones where I can hear r&b in the rhythm, I think. The title track, I hear mostly orchestrations, and I like them and the sentiments fine, but that doesn't make it intense for me. And "Two's A Kind" is good, but not one of my faves.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
X-post, but appropriate.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Red Lorre Yellow Lorre, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, it eventually sounds kind of "Smells Like Teen Spirit"! But I like Hope's "Crazy Summer Nights," which sounds kind of like "Jack and Diane," about a hundred times as much. Brie sounds good, though.
David Banner, "X-Ed": He don't care about nobody else except for his self, his beautiful selfish. He's been X-ed out of the hood and you wonder why he's up to no good? He's depraved because he's deprived, Officer Krupke! (So does that explanation mean he *was* up to good *before* he was X-ed?) I like when he talks out the side of his mouth in the middle. I also like when the guitar wash comes in at the end.
David Banner, "Crossroads": I'd call the grunge guy a Staind style guy, cutting his wrist in shame. Nice guitar barrage. This is where the young people are born and the old people die and we're just tryin to get by. And then it turns into some old Offspring song at the end.
Cool -- but if I make it through the 15 songs before those two before Christmas, I'll be surprised. I'm disappointed in myself for my utter lack of give-a-shit about David Banner and the Ying Yang Twins this year. I've turned into one of those people, haven't I? DAMN.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
if the survey i've been running is any indication (which it may not be), i'll preview the results here by saying ILM is overwhelmingly male. like, more than 9 to 1.
unless frankE and john'n'chicago are one and the same
we are! i hid behind an early ilm identity. it's settled now.
― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 20 October 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Deborah Allen still looks pretty sleazy by the way:
http://www.deborahallen.com/
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, not that the Offspring are even remotely related to country (well, they are remotely related, I guess, in that r&b is a distant ancestor to their grinch-spazz guitars, and r&b is a recent ancestor to lots of c/w plucking and pickin'; and Offspring pretend to have low self-esteem, country guys and gals have low self-esteem and pretend that they don't), but old Offspring is really good Offspring; on the greatest hits alb, first six tracks are great and the last seven are just like the first six except not great, and in the middle is "Pretty Fly For a White Guy," which is just silly (and not bad).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― ana78ng (ana78ng), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Yay, ladies read this thread! Great to hear it, Ana78ng!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I haven't played the Partlow enough for it to really sink in. The things is, what Partlow would choose if she could, it seems, is to be Lisa Stansfield: stylized mastery and control and all that, with maybe an extra freshness in her smooth glides, and certainly more boom from the kick drums and more kick from the snare drums (I prefer Mellancamp riffs to Norman Cook beats, when it comes to backing one's stylishness); but veering Adult Contemporary nonetheless, which will be her destination unless the bucks lead her elsewhere. That could be a drawback, though not necessarily (AC is hardly devoid of passion and rock these days); but so far my other problem with the Partlow album is my failure to love any of the songs. This could change with more listenings; a stylist who makes things easy often sneaks her passion in on you. I certainly appreciate the girl, but I'm not aching for her yet.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Ana78ng, I'm actually curious what music specifically you've decided to seek out after hearing about it on this thread, and whether you liked it or didn't, or what else you might have thought about it. So if you ever feel like telling us, definitely feel free!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
1. hope does a song where she makes out with your boyfriend and pretends to feel sorry about it; ashlee does one where you accuse her of making out with your boyfriend, and she pretends she didn't and gets pissed off. (except i don't really know if either is pretending.)
2. ashlee opens her CD with a song that sounds like franz ferdinand; hope opens hers with a cool blues riff, just like frank says franz f. open theirs with, though i didn't personally notice it yet. (i think he compared it to a '60s garage punk doing "smokestack lightning.")
3. hope's "don't go" is a red light green light song (see also: ashlee kix reference), though not for the reason its title suggests.
4. ashlee does a song called "boyfriend"; hope does a song called "girlfriend." "girlfriend" is probably 2005's best abba song.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
What Little Big Town have is consistently good melodies and riffs. (Well, one truly terrible declaration of love and faithfulness that was too blah to even luxuriate in its own sap.) How many CDs have good tracks almost start to finish? The performers don't do a great job delivering their material, but the material delivers itself enough of the time. I didn't really hear Fleetwood Mac - maybe a bit in the multi-female harmonies. One track has a Lovin' Spoonful "Darling-be-home-soon" bliss-laden pang to it.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Dullest track on Hope's album: Probably "Through It All."
― xhuxk, Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Little Big Town - The Road to Here - I actually love the songs on this record - and Boondocks is not my favorite(but I like that song too). Enjoy Mean Streak/Welcome to the Family/A little more you. Reminds me of Sugarland, but with the songs a little more developed and interesting. I like Sugarland, as well. I saw them open for Vince Gill.
Miranda Lambert - Kerosene - I enjoy Kerosene/me and charlie talking/new strings and the rest of the album is a good listen, but not my favorite.
Shelby Lynne - Identity Crisis - picked it up for "Gotta be better" - haven't listened to it enough.
Shelly Fairchild - Ride - This one I like as much as Little Big Town.
The Duhks - The Duhks - Different and that's why I picked it up. Have't listened to it enough.
― Kathleen Ferrara (ana78ng), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 21 October 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 21 October 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 21 October 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 21 October 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
(Like, Give 'Em Enough Rope didn't mean a worse band, just a less good collection of songs.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 23 October 2005 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 23 October 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 23 October 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Are You Ready for the Country?Highlights from Five Decades of Country Music Association AwardsNovember 4 to December 31, 2005Tuesdays to Sundays at 1:00 p.m.
First broadcast in 1968, the Country Music Association Awards have brought the best and brightest country music stars into America's living rooms for nearly forty years. The Museum is proud to present a ninety-minute highlights compilation from the CMA Awards of rarely seen performances by nearly every great star in the genre, from legends including Dolly Parton, Johnny Cash, and Willie Nelson to contemporary favorites like Garth Brooks, Faith Hill, and the Dixie Chicks.
So come on over and enjoy America's music. Are you ready for the country? 'Cause it's time to go...
Introduced Screening: Nov. 9 at 12:30 p.m.CMA director Ed Benson will formally donate the programs, followed by a discussion with CMA Awards hosts Brooks & Dunn, CMA Awards director Walter Miller, GAC host Lorianne Crook, and special guests. Screening to follow.
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
So far, I'm liking the new album, but I'm also pretty disappointed by it; there doesn't seem to be any country-oriented stuff, which sucks, but I guess Bubba has to move on. So far my favorite track is "Wonderful," but that could change. The Pablo track's good, too. -- xhuxk (xedd...), October 24th, 2005.
Actually i think its that country-motif stuff that was painting him into a corner -- deej.. (clublonel...), October 24th, 2005.
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Maybe, but that doesn't mean it wasn't his best stuff. (Plus, I'm not sure *why* it would paint him into a corner. There's as much possibility in incorporating country as in *not* incorporating country. And there's definitely more possibility in incorporating both country *and* non-country. Getting rid of it makes his horizons *less* wide, not more.) (That goes for David Banner too, by the way.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), October 24th, 2005.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
(Timbo's got at least two tracks that might make my P&J this year.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
She's got a burr in her it = She's got a burr in it.
(Don't know if I have time for the rap thread this morning - I think I'll stick here, then have to meet with someone early.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Just kidding. I can't think of much that's less punk rock. Mantovani, I suppose. And Mozart. B&R have their share of pain songs, and the reason that airplay is an issue is that they think the world needs deliverance, not just in the hereafter or in personal salvation but in everyday human relations, so that hubbies aren't battering wives and Rangers aren't killing Tontos etc. So they believe there's value in getting on the radio, because they believe that a message of forgiveness and inclusion might actually do some good. I think, though, they mainly find it invigorating and funny that their sales run so far ahead of airplay. (And actually, they only mentioned airplay once, and it's a canny marketing tool, like the Mothers trumpeting themselves as having no commercial potential.) In general B&R think that the world is fundamentally right in all its weird variety, even if they themselves have moments when they're cracked and broken and hurting. And this fundamental faith in the world-weirdness is how they get away with doing everything by gesture. I mean, they as good as declare that country isn't real country music unless it includes black people. Of course, this also works as a justification their all those uncompromisingly hard funk-rock songs that make up a huge part of their repertoire (and which they rode onto country radio and CMT), with sawing fiddles included to signify "country" but being no less a funky part of the funk. And to further mix things up, two of the hard funkers on "Comin' To Your City" declare themselves in effect to be Latino-related songs due entirely to lyric about Mariachi and Tequila and not to their sound, which remains basic funk. (Not to say that Latino-Caribbean isn't in the ancestry of funk, just as Latino-polka is in the ancestry of country two-step, but "Latino" isn't woven into funk or country's signifiers, even if it should be.) But they do pull something off for now that's ultimately not going to work, which is to do politics by gesture, as if saying "Only forgiveness can finally end this" is sufficient, and so you don't have to deal with the fact that huge portions of black life are effectively criminalized, and fear of criminals has made up so much of the American political conversation of the last three decades.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
More interesting is the big ASCAP Award Ad on page 5, where John Rich, who apparently won the "songwriter/artist of the year award," is pictured (among plain old regular so-what headshots by 50 or so other stars and industry luminaries) wearing an "I Heart PETA" T-shirt while eating a (veggie or not) burger and wearing a (veggie or not) fur coat. So I guess he wants to have his meat and eat it too. He wants to have it both ways, as Frank says. I'm not really sure how he doesn't show us the contradictions; I SEE them. Maybe I need to think about this more, or go back and re-read what contradictions Frank meant.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
"He may have been the last man in town to remain friendly with Waylon Jennings and Chet Atkins," says John Morthland (The Best of Country Music. Seems to mix the sap and the scruff in equal measure.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jessica Costello, Friday, 28 October 2005 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
A slight exagerration. *King's Record Shop* turns out to be better than I'd remembered. Best tracks: the proto-Goodbye Earl/Independence Day Rosie striking back one, the green to yellow to red traffic light one, the tennesse flatbox cover originally sung by the singer's father, and the 727 one (which is a bonus cut on the new reissue CD.)
Also, I exagerrated up above when I said Cross Canadian Ragweed don't know how to rock. Their SINGER doesn't, apparently. But their guitar player seems to, and the album may well grown on me for that reason.
― xhuxk, Monday, 31 October 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Picked up John Anderson's great "Tokyo, Oklahoma" the other day for a buck--what a superb record. Been listening to Hayes Carll's record, finally. And still hooked on the Bare back-projection-politan--good line Frank!--for late-nite listening.
I haven't been able to copy my Big & Rich, so far it's defeated me and my more tech-savvy friends. I figured out that the song "Caught Up in the Moment" reminds me of is Climax Blues Band's '76 "Couldn't Get It Right," down to the vocals and the line from CBB that goes "New York City took me with the tide/But I nearly died from hospitality." Which someone upthread might have already caught, I didn't check. In fact, a lot of that CBB album with "Couldn't" is so much like "Comin' "--substitute fiddles and banjos for the clavinet and guitars on the CBB album and it's kinda uncanny.
And "Never Mind Me" takes off from J.D. Souther's "New Kid in Town" with a little hint of one of those Gin Blossoms songs from the album with "Hey Jealousy" on it. And the other thing I find real interesting about the record is the way the vocals are recorded/mixed with absolutely no room ambience at all, just so in-your-face. Which works for me, mostly, because you don't miss a word.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 31 October 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― earlnash, Monday, 31 October 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 31 October 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link
All their stuff is on eMusic and I've stayed away from it. The cover art and song titles are awful. So what's the appeal?
Here's my Grinderswitch bid for revival. Their catalog has been moved en masse to digitization. Three studio albums on Capricorn, I thin'; one rejected by Walden in '77 or so and issued by someone a year or two later. One album has grotesque natural cover art resembling a cunt. Half country, half Allman's but shorter songs. Fits into the Lousianna Leroux demographic -- a bit more guitarry -- that Chuck liked.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Played Odyssey Band's *Back in Time* (featuring James Blood Ulmer, Charles Burnham, and Warren Benbrow) all the way through twice this morning, and nearly half of it is a total jazz HOEDOWN. I remember Ulmer's early '80s *Odyssey* album having country-ish parts, but not this many. Also not sure if these are new versions of all songs from that album or what; I haven't checked. Either way, I am starting to think this might qualify for a country ballot. Don, please advise.
Also finally played Two Car Garage's *The Wall Against Our Back,* which I think has been sitting on a shelf in my office for a year, yesterday, and found out these Columbus, Ohio dudes (three of 'em) sound more like the Drive By Truckers than even the Drive By Truckers do these days. I had no idea. Press sheet says they cover Bad Company and Billy Joe Shaver live, as well. How come I never heard of them?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Joe Dan Petty, the bassist was a Allmans roadie and he started the band, apparently having the connections to immediately get it signed to Capricorn. Two of the original members -- of four -- including Petty, are dead, so reunion on the physical plain is out. Honest to Goodness and Macon Tracks, the first two, could be passed off as the Allman Bros. in a blind listen-off to rubes. They're about the same in quality. Always one good song on the record, accompanied by six or seven fair workouts and out of there before 35 minutes has elapsed.
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0I9ALYW9XOSN63B6VDW1TQN53W
(I think of it as a Mexican Abba, if Abba was made up of Shania Twain and ZZ Top.)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I just don't like the NPR-country balladeers they've turned *into,* Don (plus live they're way too much Replacements and not enough Skynyrd); I still love *Southern Rock Opera,* and I like the one after that and the ones before -- only CD I really didn't like was their most recent one. And come to think of it I guess a lot of the less rocking Two Cow Garage tracks may well sound like that one, hmmmm; the two BEST Two Cow cuts are more Southern-Rock-Operatic.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 4 November 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B00092ZM02/103-1042685-6186223
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 November 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Interesting; I'd like to read this (and somebody should have Katie Dodd email me so we can add her to Pazz and Jop), but I'm not so sure about the "really like" in the above sentence. Here's what I wrote above; I wonder if this is one of the songs Katie was referring to:
"opening track on the new faith hill album, about sunshine and summertime and picnics and coronas and colas and smith-coronas (ok maybe not) and hot cars and hard bodies and bikinis and stuff, is really good; reminds me of "six pack summer" by phil vassar from a couple years ago... the other song faith's summertime sunshine song reminds me of is rebecca lynn howard's pink flamingos one from a couple years ago. guess i'm just a sucker for songs about parties on suburban patios. (i realize that kinda thing might make some of my more suburbaphobic NYC friends cringe, though.)...and the thing about the party on the patio one is that that kind of hasbrook heights suburban utopia is probably almost a nostalgia thing by now; rebecca's pink flamingos were more blatant about the kitsch of it all (as were zz top imitating b-52s in "party on the patio" i guess) , but i have a feeling faith kinda knows the utopia's a lost cause by now too. though then again, i can imagine she and tim throwing great patio parties to this day, so maybe not."
I wasn't ignoring your Carrie U = Juice N post, Matt! It makes me totally wanna hear the record. I just haven't yet, so I'm speechless.
― xhuxk, Friday, 4 November 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 5 November 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 5 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
and gretchen wilsons career is really about personae seeking diminishing returns--California Girls is awful, and strangely inaccurate
― anthony, Sunday, 6 November 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link
just played the new joe nichols. listenable but dull, i guess i'd say. respectable - that's what people like about him, right? and at least no prayer in schools op-eds this time, near as i could tell. best song seems to be "talk me out of tampa"; songs about southern coastal towns always remind of glen campbell. most interesting thing about "tequila makes her clothes fall off" seems to be that he mentions bon jovi in it. "as country as she gets" isn't bad. didn't keith anderson already do a song called "size matters" this year, though? in joe's version, some gal's looking for a guy with a real big...heart. that's the only track i found too annoying to listen to. doubt i'll ever listen to any of the others again by choice, though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 7 November 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
But hey Don, don't forget Big Kenny! (whose solo reissue you seem to like a lot more than I do...)
― xhuxk, Monday, 7 November 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
so curb my upthread enthusiasm, a little. still a pretty good record to my ears though.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― werner t., Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd say Old Big & Rich >>>>> New Big & Rich > Cowboy Troy > Big Kenny solo. And they are *too* tossing some new curves. ("Flithy Rich," the Vietnam epic, the pyschedelic song that Edd loves so much, maybe more if Edd -- whose writing about the album on this thread has been really interesting -- is right). Just not enough of them, and the new curves aren't as interesting as I wish they were. But if anything, honestly, I think my problem with the new album is that it reminds me too *much* of Big Kenny's solo joint, not enough of the debut. Too many hippie-dippie slow songs. And some Cowboy Troy on it would have been fun. (Then again, one cool thing about B&R is that nobody ever seems to agree about what their best songs are. That was sort of the case with the debut too. In his 3 1/2-star review in the new *Rolling Stone,* Christian Hoard says his favorite track on the album is "Leap of Faith," which too me is easily one of the dullest tracks on there.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
1) He Thanks Sammy Hagar in the Linear notes2) The video to Who Would You Be seems to be a gloss on When September Ends by Green Day.
He is much much less fuckable then he was in the last one, as well. (which explains about 3/4s of his popularity)
― anthony, Thursday, 10 November 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
To The RED ROCKER Sammy Hagar, Uncle Kraker, Kid Rock, Keith Urban, Gretchen Wilson, Pat Green, Peyton and Eli Manning, Troy Aikam
it goes on and on
― anthony, Thursday, 10 November 2005 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Didn't Kelefah just say in the Times two days ago that KC's teqila song may be the mellowest thing ever recorded at Hagar's place in Cabo Wabo or however you spell it? Well there you go.
Speaking of the Times, don't miss the condescending but I gotta admit slightly interesting article in today's Style section about female country artists' newfound obsession with designer labels! Did you know they don't leave tags on their hats like Minnie Pearl anymore? Well, they don't, so there! Actually, the most interesting thing about the piece is the graphic that compares Faith Hill's, Martina McBride's, and Lee Ann Rimes's down-home mid '90s CD covers to their much more fashionable (and way hotter, though it doesn't say that) recent ones. Also, the piece mentions Leann's "heaving bosom" on hers!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Abducted by aliens, I fear.http://www.lacyjdalton.com/
Terrific singer, though. Irony, however, isn't her strong suit: "I love good rock 'n roll like Don Henley, Tom Petty, Bonnie Raitt, etc. A lot of modern country music sounds like white-washed rock 'n roll to me."
― Roy Kasten, Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/10/arts/music/10sann.html?8hpib=&pagewanted=print
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Maybe it is for the tequila, or the beach bum bonhommie it looks like they share. Anyway, Hagar's tequila is sold at supermarket local to me, locked up in the premium case, but it's not so high priced it can't be an everyman's drink. It'd be nice, too, if it had something to with the songwriting on Hagar's Capitol output, which was pretty good.
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 12 November 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 12 November 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Uh, I like the album the Nancy Atlas Project put out a few years ago. Beyond that, honestly, not much. I like (and edited) Kurt Gottschalk's piece, but I honestly am not a fan of most of the music in it, which seems really timid to me. (See my Orville Davis comment upthread.)
First song on tape played over PA, after the bleh (despite an okay cover of Merle's "Working Man") set by Tracy Byrd or Tracy Lawrence or whoever the hell he was, to lead into Montgomery Gentry's great (and to me, amazingly good humored and smiley) Veteran's Day night set at BB King's last night: "Cum On Feel the Noize" by Slade. Last song on tape (the one they entered to): "The Boys are Back in Town" by Thin Lizzy. In between: "Working for the Weekend," "Carry on My Wayward Son," I forget what else. Songs they covered during their set: CCR "Midnight Special," Dave Edmunds "I Hear You Knocking," ZZ Top "Just Got Paid" (which made me especially happy, since ZZ didn't do it in their great set at the Beacon Theatre the night before). In attendance: Caramanica, Sanneh, Breihan, Eddy, though the first two left before the set was over (Sanneh to go see Okkervill River.)
New Th' Legendary Shack Shakers album sounds really good (and seemingly more pissed off politcally than their previous one), by the way.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
http://villagevoice.com/music/0545,gottschalk,69776,22.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
>Anybody else been playing these new (and often advertised on CMT!) *VH1 Classic Metal Mania Stripped* compilations? I have been, and I've been liking lots of stuff on them -- some of it ("Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake and "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" by Night Ranger for instance, though those aren't the best tracks) more than I would have guessed.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
My thoughts (from then) on that one and a countrified Metallica folk song:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/9919,eddy,5544,22.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 12 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Used '90s c&w CDs I bought for me for $3 each while Xmas shopping on St Marks today:
Linda Davis - Shoot for the Moon (I still own her '98 I'm Yours, so must've liked it once)Gary Allan - It Would Be YouCleve Francis - You've Got Me NowMoe Bandy & Joe Stampley - Greatest HitsT. Graham Brown - Wine Into Water
(Also bought CDs by Daddy Freddy, Chaka Demus & Pliers, Al B. Sure, and Propaganda for the same fee.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Considering rock critics' newfound obsession with designer labels: Did you know they don't leave tags on their hats like Minnie Pearl anymore? Well, they don't, so there! Actually, the most interesting thing is the graphic that compares Caramanica's, Eddy's, and Sanneh's mid '90s publicity photos to their much more fashionable (and way hotter, though don't tell anyone I said that) recent ones.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
You guys ignore the Ashlee thread at my own peril; when you read the thread you'll see what I mean, if you can't guess already. Had to count to 100 first nearly every time I wanted to post.
Let's see, where was I? Oh yeah, "I Break Things" doesn't feel punk, despite Erika Jo's affinity for broken glass. It's a funny song. Not that punk can't be funny, but this is just oh so cheery amidst its destruction. It's so innocent. The lyrics give the videomakers all the direction they need. Erika Jo merrily sings and prances while around her windows shatter, dishes crack, amps explode, walls tumble. Despite the mayhem, she doesn't really want to destroy passersby, just tease them. "So if you wanna hold me boy, you better watch your heart/'Cause I break things."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I usually watch Launch Yahoo at their Music In Spanish site, because it gives you access to everything on the American site but has far fewer commercials. Anyway, after playing the video you'd chosen, they'll throw you to the video they're pushing that week, which at the moment is "I Don't Care." Starts with a sitar twang and Asian violins, both of which could transfer to country music, though it would be an interesting stretch. Maybe when Timbaland starts producing country acts he could introduce this.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Yep Roc took me off their promo list after I reviewed the last one for the Voice. And I gave it a good review.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Probably a minority opinion, Don. You should have heard the comments from my coworkers at Woodward-Clyde Consultants when they found out I knew her.
(It was her birthday yesterday. She wrote me that she was exhausted from flying around the country doing readings.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Trailer Bride' singing (i.e., Melissa Swindle's) turns out to be a little held back. Not bad for alt-country, not nearly a schoolmarm or anything, but still. She draws a blank how Neko Case or somebody like that does (inasmuch as I remember what Neko even sounds like.) More likely what I like(d) about them is the dark rythymic and melodic waltz swirl of tunes like (especially) "The Ghost of Mae West." which reminds me a lot of Don's beloved Mollys (and where Melissa's vocal draws much less of a blank than in their uh, blankier tracks).
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
that t. graham brown CD I bought is great, maybe even better (and more southern soul-and-blues oriented) than his one from last year. "wine into water" itself turns out to be another alcoholism recovery song; that opens the record, he's asking jesus if he can turn wine into water, but eventually the album ends with a gospel number where jesus turns water into wine. my favorite track so far is "good days bad days"; there's more where that came from though. i had the CD in the changer with the cleve francis one, seeing if I could guess who was who. usually i could, but i'm real interested in figuring out what soul/r&b influence if any is in cleve's music. ( not that there *has* to be a soul/r&b influence, but with most black country singers, ray charles and lionel richie and stoney edwards and big al downing and cowboy troy, it's obvious. cleve was one of the few black singers to hit the country charts in the '90s; also a heart surgeon, i think. neal mccoy, who looks black in most photos but i've never heard him described as such, apparently covered kool and the gang's "celebration" at a u.s.o, event last year, according to today's *times magazine; he's also had small hints of rap in his music. i have no idea what his actual ethnic background is; he was hitting around the same time cleve was though. there also seem to have been more hispanics on the country charts then than now, too -- rick trevino and emlio crossed back and forth from tejano music, i think. i saw an emilio country album for $3 yesterday too, and maybe should have bought it too, and i could have answered frank''s question about Latino sliding notes.) anyway, with cleve, there's *something* there, slightly in his voice, i think, but that early '90s pop-country sound is so prozac'd out, so anal compulsively smoothed into muzak, that it's hard to put my finger on what -- inasmuch as there's soul music in his voice, it's filtered through kenny rogers or maybe charlie pride (who i've never listened to much, and should more) or somebody, Interesting. But mostly...boring! at least a couple songs i like, regardless -- one where his wife leaves him and takes the tools from the shed. still, listening to this it's actually not hard to see why the alt-country guys in the '90s thought they were adding edge to country music, because this music is unbelievably edgeless. when did things change? garth and shania, i suppose?
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I love Rodriguez: His voice has a calm, easy going sex appeal, totally unaffected in its authority, like he woke up some morning and discovered he sounded like Merle Haggard, shrugged, and kept singing. He was fairly huge in the ‘70s. My favorite album of his is the first one. If you like that lean but somehow lush early ‘70s, Jerry Kennedy Mercury sound, it’s essential. Worth hearing is his comeback of sorts on Hightone, You Can Say That Again, though it might be too singersongwriter-aligned for some. I always thought Rodriguez should do an entire album of Joe South tunes, but then I think every singer I like should do that!
― Roy Kasten, Sunday, 13 November 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
>Montgomery Gentry? They're punks for sure, and I don't mean that altogether as a compliment.)<
..especially considering their libertarian-punk treatise "You Beat Your Brat (I'll Beat Mine)."
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
!!!
That sounds like exactly what Raul Malo should be doing, wish I could see it.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, that's what probably REALLY happened, but when he calls the police, he tells them "it must have been a gang of those who run around town dressed up in women''s clothes," it turns out! Song is called "The Only Explanation." I also like "Not Even Monday," which has something to do with going to work or whatever. As does Linda Davis's great "Company Time," which I think was probably a hit. She also turns '20s shootin-creek proto-country into '90s post-Juice Newton pop county with "Shoot for the Moon," and "He's in Dallas" is real good too. Another great song on the T Graham Brown album I bought is "Memphis Women and Chicken," which Edd Hurt should definitely hear. The '98 Gary Allan album I bought has plenty of good songs on it; best may or may not be "No Man is his Wrong Heart"," "Forgotten, But Not Gone," and apparent hidden murder song following the latter.
My favorite song so far on the Rancid Vat 2-CD set is their take on "Hot and Nasty" by Black Oak Arkansas, who are also sampled (along with Skynyrd) on the new Rev Run mini-LP, which despite lasting 23 minutes is very hard to get through. (I tried hard to like it.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 13 November 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 14 November 2005 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 14 November 2005 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 14 November 2005 07:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Turns out it's blatant, in a way -- For one thing, he does a duet with Patti Austin on the album that's way more adult-contemporary r&b than c&w. And "It Ain't Gonna Worry My Mind", which is beautiful, is some kind of missing link between Hoagy Carmichael's blues influence and Brooks and Dunn's r&b ballad influence; it also sorta reminds me of some adult soul-ish singer (in post-Nat King Cole/Johnny Mathis mode maybe?) I can't quite put my finger on -- James Ingram or Al Jarraeu or Jeffry Osbourne or one of those guys I never listen to. So: less boring than I thought. Cleve has a vulnerable-but-reliable sad-sack-with-hard-luck persona, a strong handsome fella you'd like to bring home to mom and dad, though given that he may well have been a successful heart surgeon, so how much hard luck could have faced? (OK, a lot, obviously. But when the hell did he find time to sing?)
> there may have been a period when hard blues was so standard in country as to be just another subset<
Yep, circa 1929-1936! (Though it may well happened again later.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link
aside from the poistionus irony, it did showcase the lyrics, which were much better then i thot it was...
also read my (country) and/or (western) thread...
― anthony, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
(hey, it's Monday.)
ps) what "country) and/or (western) thread" is that, anthony?
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
i am going back to the rodeo for barrell racing on monday, so i will find titles and artists
― anthony, Monday, 14 November 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 November 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 November 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway, here's my pop-centric take on Big & Rich for Nashville Scene:http://www.nashscene.com/Stories/Arts/Music/2005/11/10/Big_Beat_Populists/index.shtml
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Miranda Lambert, "Kerosene": holy fuck what a STOMP that song is, she used her guitar as a prop at the start, tossed it to somebody, then flames starting shooting up all around her on stage. Sugarland's song rocked to; the drummer KILLED; George is totally right about the Bad Company angle. But he's not in the band per se, I guess, and neither is the totally scraggly looking long-hair rock guitarist dressed in black behind them. But their dykey looking big girl and nerdy looking skinny guy ARE in the band-per-se', and it pisses me off that on the monitors showing the TV show they only showed the more conventionally pretty looking lead singer, as if they're a solo act not a trio; what the fuck? They've become big stars from the grass roots level up; does the record company or CBS or whoever really think the two cool oddball looking members are liabilities? To hell with 'em. (Not to hell with Sugarland, though. I like them. After their song, Bon Jovi did one, and the Sugarland pretty girl joined Jon halfway through, pretty much putting him to shame. Kinda neat he was there, though.)
Alan Jackson covered "Wonderful Tonight" by Eric Clapton, sang it better than Eric used to, I'd say; is that song *supposed* to sound totally suicidal and cynical and sarcastic (like the guy singing is totally tired of life despite his gorgeous wife of apparently several decades), or is that my imagination? Always kinda hit me that way when Eric sang it too, but Alan sang it better. He still doesn't have a personality though. And neither does George Strait who sounded, uh, okay in his straight way I suppose; I guess I see why people claim he has a great voice, and the arrangement was slightly jazzy, and there was possibly even a chord change in there somewhere, and the song (advice to a male friend in love with a "high toned woman" who's out of his league) was kinda intriguing, but despite all that, damn, what a fucking BORE. I don't get it. All the ELEMENTS are there, but it just goes by as "another George Straight song, just like hundreds of others." He has this way of singing words without remotely embodying them or something; Alan's like that, too, but he did better last night. How can people get excited about these guys? Oh well. Maybe their fans are the kind of people who don't *like* to get excited.
Um, what else? Martina McBride was the dullest performance of the evening (at least til we left the arena), doing a completely sexless and un-ominous "Help Me Make It Through the Night," the words of which I do not believe she remotely understands. (I never made it through her covers album, and hereby know I never will.) Gretchen did a ballad about how she was gonna resist having sex with some guy she's apparently tired of but she knew she'd have sex anyway; I didn't understand the "I still have 16 hours to go" line? Maybe it's wake-up sex? Or she's a trucker on the road, and it's pitstop sex? I dunno. I suppose she sang it good, and her stage demeanor adequately communicated the obligatory Gretchenness, but it was still a snooze, and I still don't understand why she bothers with ballads. Keith Urban was fun. He's fun to look at. He doesn't wash his hair. Or okay, I know, he looks like he just got off his surfboard and it's still wet and so are all the ladies screaming for him. What a himbo! He won male country singer of the year, which is ridiculous, because he's got like the most average voice on earth. His beat sounded more disco than Big & Rich's to my ears. The music was total late '70s Starbuck/King Harvest/Little River Band soft afternoon rock; in theory I should LOVE it, but his songs never leave an effect on me until he takes a guitar solo, which he never does anyway near long enough, since perhaps it's assumed his audience demographic does not like guitar solos? Could be. A shame, because he can play. I think all he needs are better songs, but maybe since he always just rolled out of bed or off the waves he's too sleepy and lazy to hunt around for good ones. (I want to develop a theory about how himbos like Keith and Dierks and Billy Currington are the sensitve Noels and Timmy Ts and Coros up against Miranda's and Sara's and Gretchen's tough Lisette Melendezes and Corinas and Judy Torreses or whoever, but I haven't given it much thought yet, and I'm probably wrong, since the country boys are never sad enough, plus they don't own any Depeche Mode records.) I forget what else....oh yeah, Faith and Tim doing that stupid sexless adult contemporary ballad off Faith's album. They have, like, no chemistry at all with each other on stage as far as I can tell. I think I like Tim's voice slightly more (at least when they sing that song together); he's slightly more r&b. But what mush. Um, that's about it, unless I remember something else...
(Oh yeah, Willie Nelson and Paul Simon trading "Still Crazy After All These Years" and "Crazy"; that was nice. And Vince Gill presenting an award in a Sopranos accent. And lots of unfunny New York jokes. Word is the show ended with a Dolly/Elton "Imagine" duet, but I missed it.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
its weird, obv. the hillbilly rockstar thing seems really out of place wrt chesney, and the personae doesnt match--i cannot imagine chesney smoking or eating greasy cheese burgers or anything else mentioned in that song. its like big blue note and toby keith at the shrinx. i have my review of the new chesney coming up on stylus, and the album is shit--dull, and badly sung.
i really really love womack, her dress her performance, her accent and her wins. dolly ever subtly, off stage singing about jesus w. paisley may be the best jesus moment of the year, and lord knows we need it (and it maintains my suppostion that he is the best hymn singer we got singing right now.)
willie nelson's voice is shot, fucked...nothing we can do about it, hes just got to work around it, he did it here a bit, but not as much as johnny cash when he was in a similar situtuation...speaking of johnny cash, man does juaqauin phoneix have a massive cock (and he is way to handsome to play johnny)
sara evans was v. good for the first 3/4s, subtle, restrained, intesne and moving, then she got into that fluttery vibrato shit ,and it blew what ever else she had.
tim has a better voice then faith, its weird they are doing such an anti love song, though i am glad that it has a bit of bile to it, cause im really sick of the perfection of their realtionship, the saccharine true love stuff, which may/may not be true but is v. v. v. boring.
i agree totally wrt martina macbride but at least she is not singing songs like gods will, and anything that brings KK more into the spotliight is okay. I think that she has a pristine and precise voice, and i like listening to her--but her choice of material is just nights.
the kersone song does not have nearly enough of the burn the mother fucker down belting anger/ its actually fairly calm for an ode to revenge arson.
the elton/dolly thing was pure and unadultrated bad taste camp--and for an evening so intensely polite, madly needed...
the willie/paul thing was a cool formal trick, but what else do you expect people so clever?
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Miranda's fire is from the STOMP. The riffs, the beat. But her voice stomps and burns, too. She would've been great even without the fire.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Holy moley Miranda Lambert kicked ass. Loved the song, the fire and her voice, which I thought had plenty of heat in it. I'm listening to her album again and finding more stuff on it that I love. She's opening for George Strait here January (along with Tracy Lawrence --boo) and I can't wait.
― werner t., Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
One woman tied a Chistmas bow around his waist, which he said looked "a little gay," in charming obliviousness of where he was. He doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor. He's a screaming lead guitarist though, and did get to stretch out on a couple of songs. He was showing off his stage moves just as much as his chops. But yeah, to me the songs themselves are sub-Bon-Jovi nothingness, 'cept for one or two. Which didn't stop the crowd from singing all the words.
I think you can stream his Irving Plaza show from the night after we saw him, on the AOL site.
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
>by the way, did i severely underestimate the number of dierks bentley fans in NY, or the number of pat green fans? last night, the nokia was overflowing with people - fans - who clearly knew all the words to dierks, which was weird, because all the other country shows were clearly industry affairs. but dude, dierks! growing into his manhood! 24 year old girls in cowboy hats who are clearly transplants from the midwest, as opposed to the jerseyites who go to the toby shows. it was as if Vanderbilt frat row had been beamed in from tennessee. bizarre and awesome.<
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2005/11/backstage_at_th_1.php
tom on the friday monkey gentry show:
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2005/11/countrys_rightw_1.php
frank kogan on the new big & rich:
http://dev.villagevoice.com/music/0546,kogan,70003,22.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
i really dont get the fire in the lambert, etc (though i didnt get it w. hicktown and well i do now)
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Okay, not THAT much, turns out. Just a *little* ass. More ass than other tracks on the EP, that's for sure. But probably not enough to ass to write home about. And it's "My Guitar is My Memory," actually.
Oddly, the stupid Voice reader who responded to Frank didn't seem all *that* stupid until she started saying Frank degraded B&R's work. (Maybe this is just her pat response to every Big & Rich review on the Net? By the way, did anybody notice that C- in *Entertainment Weekly*? New album got a critical *Billboard* review, too; weird.) Anyway, despite her inability to read (though no more of an inability to read than certain regular ILX posters who will go unnamed here -- not on this thread, though, don't get me wrong!), she actually says some non-stupid things in her long post. ("I have yet to hear a song that even speaks of issues such as; disability, 'met a girl in a chair with wheels, but no-one else would see her' in such a frank and honest way...They remind me of songs such as 'What Is Truth" (Johnny Cash) which are brutally honest...They may not be strictly country music, from my own knowledge of music their song 'Rollin' (The Ballad Of Big & Rich)' is in dropped D a favourite tuning for rock artists coupled with a mixture of Spanish rapping. They may not be everything a country artist is supposed to be, but music is changing, my friend, the mixing of genres is becoming ever more prominent in our society (take, for example, hip-hop artist Nelly's duet with country artist Tim McGraw -Over and Over Again- hardly Nelly's usual music)". Also, she's 17 (I assume Superniki is a "she," anyway). Give her a break!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
B&R are going head to head against latent racism and yeah it's still out there but I like to believe they are winning.
― werner t., Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
which misses the point, I think, that black people are fine in showbiz. for a lot of rednecks I've talked to around here, Cowboy Troy in Big & Rich is just another wacky spectacle, with no underlying message except "novelty group, they doin' crazy things." and that's what I get when the local station here, The Beaver, plays, infrequently, "Comin' "--those crazy guys are at it again. Which is why I refer to that song in my review as a beer commercial--I have nothing against beer commercials per se, but what I get (here in this last holdout of real racism, northwest middle Tennessee with the past as tobacco racism standing in for the more common past as cotton racism, except now all the workers you see doing that nasty work of pulling tobacco--everywhere around here--are Mexicans, with the concurrent jokes about *them* just as virulent as the jokes about "nigs" now) is a kind of half-subversive halftime show mentality from those tunes. And is not a putdown, either, I admire Big & Rich more and more for their canniness, and realize that it ain't people like me they're really aiming their music at. None of my music-obsessed friends around here much care about 'em one way or the other, but do kinda like the pop stuff, or at least see that they're trying to do several different things at once (I'd love to hear what Big & Rich *left off* this record, actually)...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
>rewind2005 on Thu Nov 17, 09:14, 2005, says: George Clinton, move over: Big and Rich are the new P-Funk. Like most country music stars now, they combine MOR, R&B, Pazz and Jop, with a twang and call it country music. They are smart, they are funny, and they are entertaining. That's enough for me. <
Got that? They incorporate both PAZZ and JOP, and don't forget it!! (But I'm curious about the "like most country music stars now" part! Does that mean that LOTS of country stars are new P-Funk?? Could be!)
― xhuxk, Friday, 18 November 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 18 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 19 November 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Big and Rich were consummate entertainers, projecting all the way to the back (where we were) of a large hall. 6000 or so I’d guess – the place had the look and feel of the Theater at Madison Square Garden. Their singing was strong too, and the name of the game was all-fun all the time. They opened with that boom boom diddy diddy psychedelic one from the new album, which ended with an audience-chanted “HEY!,” and followed with another new one, “Soul Shaker.” Most of the set was drawn from the first album, though. Cowboy Troy did two numbers in the middle, which were accepted with pleasure by the all-white but interestingly age-diverse crowd. We saw kids and seniors, with everything in between, as if the Big and Rich audience hadn’t quite figured out its own demographic yet. The teens in front of us knew all the words. B&R turned the stage into a carnival. There was the same kind of vibe as at a P-Funk or Stones show. Really great.
And honest to God, I wrote that P-Funk comparison before I saw xhuxk’s last post!
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Saturday, 19 November 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 19 November 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link
And Don may be right when it comes to Edd's and my overrating the album, but I'd rather err on the side of overrate than underrate. The music kicks for sure, but it lacks the simmering/shimmering ache of the last one.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Or am I hearing it wrong?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, you are right--on the new Merle, a song called "Mexico" complete with stupid lyrics about "don't be afraid of banditos/there's more outlaws in old California." whose sentiment I approve of, actually, but still...and a "mariachi" trumpet to signify "south of the border." and of course, the rhythmic patterns found in country are to some degree the same as those found in rock and soul and funk, with I guess the diff being that a lot of country still relies on a kind of 2/2 meter, two-beat thing, perhaps, with not a lot of kick in it, comparitively speaking. which is also not to play down the swingin' 4/4 Kansas-City derived rhythms that, for me, are what country does really, really well.
as far as the Big & Rich goes, I find it a flawed but in its way very very ambitious album. I like to believe in people myself, and like to think that those two could really do something amazing--more amazing--down the road. I need to go back and listen to Haggard's "Like Never Before." I'm on a Hag kick right now...
and, nice to know that Carrie Underwood was voted PETA's Sexiest Vegetarian! and that she has many cats...I only have one, Wally, but he's enough cat for two or three, the fat little bastard...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
The more obvious musical sources are the old-timey string band music of the 1920s, which the Rounders twisted into something more... something. I don't know what word to use: More alien, perhaps? More cantankerous, piercingly high-pitched, around the bend? (At least, more "Around The Bend.") "Mr. Spaceman" was one of their compositions. Visonary twang? I don't know.
Since the film highlighted the personalities, as it went on it became "How do we deal with the alky?" - that being Weber. Ends with Weber not showing up for a reunion gig and subsequently keeping away from all the other bandmembers.
There's a wonderfully co-dependent moment when Stampfel, with no immediate provocation, starts verbally jabbing at Weber for having told some people that he'd written some of Stampfel's songs.
Xgau shows up briefly to say that except for Dylan, Stampfel is the closest the scene came to producing a genius. Then he says something like "To hell with Joan Baez. P.U." (Hmmm. Baez has always bored me, but I never considered her smelly.) Byron Coley was another talking head. I'd never seen him before. Looks like a normal enough guy, and didn't seem like a total brat.
Paul Lovelace, one of the filmmakers, told us that as a student filmmaker he'd made a documentary about Christgau! It was Christgau who'd turned him onto the Rounders. Lovelace is going to send me a video of the Christgau doc, though he warned me it was of only student quality.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm about to be booted out of here (the UConn library).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Also: the only 2006 record I've heard is Susheela Raman's Music for Crocodiles, which is AMAZING. But it's not country. What thread are we on, again?
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
(The first few songs of whose album sound really really good by the way. An "Okee From Muskogee" update about how we don't lock our doors and nobody burns flags on the courthouse lawn and there's only country stations out here and we don't keep anybody who lives out here out whatever the heck that means, a funkier one about she's a little woman who needs a big man not a mack-daddy pimp like you {I think she answers somebody who calls her a "ho" in it, too}, a song about people are wrong to say Garth and Shania aren't country 'cause that's what they used to say about Johnny Cash but she likes Steve Miller and Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock too and isn't it great how Kenny Chesney's laughing all the way to the bank so why don't we all get along -- all rocking country with fiddles in the groove, and yeah, lots of dumbass pandering in the words but what else is new? Now I'm on "Can I Get an Amen" which sounds EXACTLY like some big '70s rock song -- "Listen to the Music" by the Doobie Brothers, maybe? Then it turns into something by BTO, I think, "Roll On Down the Highway," maybe?; whatever it is, it definitely outrocks the Doobie Brothers, and then it winds down to more fiddles then handclap gospel acapella.)
(Hmmm, maybe I should save that brand new Lady Sovereign EP for a possible spot on my 2006 ballot, too. That way I could maybe include Ashlee *and* the Living Things this year... unless I don't.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
When I interviewed Freddy Fender a few years back--in a cheap motel in Corpus Cristi, not far, he said, from where he used to shoot up!--he talked about how, as a kid, he loved both rock & roll and country because to him it was music of his pueblo, or something like that. And I've always loved Los Lobos' second album because it's more than the sound and substance of a band adopting country; it's a band who thinks country is theirs.
― Roy Kasten, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, I think it was 3 or 4 (but still a lot)....
― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Meaculpatory Sourpuss, Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 25 November 2005 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Or 1976 disco. Or somewhere in there. (Do your own callibrations at will.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 25 November 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Somehow it reminded me of Stephin Merritt!
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess "Best I've Ever Had" is gonna be my #1 country single, right now. What an amazing performance by Gary Allan. "Tough All Over" is probably the record I've played most in '05, when all's said and done--even more than the Bettye LaVette, which snuck up on me and won me over after a few months...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
And yeah, I guess I agree about "Badlands," but I still love "Souls' Chapel" and you guys can't argue me out of it. Nyah nyah.
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
"Just Got Back from Hell" is impressive: He found a way to address his wife's suicide without exploiting it.
"What Kind of Fool" should be the best track, a wailing rock 'n' roll ballad like "See If I Care," though something about the arrangement weakens it a little, not sure what. It's not overarranged, but feels cluttered anyway; some of the pedal-steel teariness or violin filligrees distract from the singing. This was my initial complaint about a lot of Brooks & Dunn's Steers & Stripes, which I ended up loving, so maybe this track will grow on me. I like it, but not as much as "Tough All Over" and "Just Got Back from Hell." By the way, producer on this album and on Steers & Stripes is Mark Wright (who's also co-produced the Gretchen Wilson's). He seems to go for a restlessness that doesn't advertise itself as such. The snare on the verse of "No Damn Good" does the Latin thing of hitting the two-AND rather than the backbeat. Don't know who's responsible for that (well, the drummer obviously, but Allan or Wright could have told him not to if they'd wanted, and maybe they're the ones who suggested he do it).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
"Contagious" and "Miss Jones" are in the same slot but the band looks like Living Things and are from NYC so...
― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 2 December 2005 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 2 December 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
The basic form (not just for Jamie but for a lot of country and pop) is:
Verse: instruments relatively spare, fewer chord changes, the vocal phrasing fairly close to how you'd speak it, melodies less tuneful and more dramatic, not much double-tracking or backup singing; works as a buildup that leads to...
Chorus: throws the works at you, melody, sing-alongs, wails, notes held or syllables broken into melisma-festivals. What happens too often, though, is that all this rah-rah cancels itself out, turns into ho-hum la-di-da, dissipates the drama she'd built in the verse.
From my original notes, "Somebody's Hero": "God, why did this turn into such crap?" I might have been referring to the lyrics too. "She's never rocked Central Park to a half a million" was promising, as was the way the melody swooped into the verse. Then we learn that the woman is SOMEBODY'S MOTHER. (So are some ducks. Wowie gee.)
"Naïve" starts with a mesh-thin synth line that makes me shiver. The chorus lames this one out too, though not as badly as on some of the others; there's something tingly about her harmonizing with herself; wish the tune were better. Could make the bottom of my Scene list.
The best two tracks - "Devil On My Left" and "Girlfriends" - are the two she co-produced.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― wernert, Friday, 2 December 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 2 December 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Guys Do It All the Time Lyrics
(Bobby Whiteside/Kim Tribble)
Got in this morning at 4 a.m.You're as mad as you can beWell I was drinking and talking and you know how that goesTime just slipped away from meBy the time I knew what time it wasIt was too late to call homeStop carrying on acting like a childI wasn't doing anything wrong
Guys do it all the timeAnd you expect us to understandWhen the shoe's on the other footYou know that's when it hits the fanGet over it, honey, life's a two way streetOr you won't be a man of mineSo I had some beers with the girls last nightGuys do it all the time
I know I left my clothes all over the placeAnd I took your twenty bucksNo I didn't get the front yard cut'Cause I had to wash my truckWill you bring me a cold one, babyAnd turn on the TVWe'll talk about this laterThere's a ball game I wanna see
You look like you just took a long look in the mirrorTell me baby if things don't look a whole lot clearer
Get over it, honey, life's a two way streetOr you won't be a man of mineSo I had some beers with the girls last nightGuys do it all the time
Yeah, guys do itYeah, guys do itAll the time, all the timeYeah, guys do it Yeah, guys do it
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=17:561347
Also, Precious Metal had a great "Girls Nite Out" on their debut LP.
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000I7HI/102-0120548-7322539?v=glance
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
I been starin' all day at the same computer screenAround here I'm treated like I'm just some damn machineI punch inI tune outNobody cares what I'm all about.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 2 December 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 3 December 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
see also the special, the perfect information control of the 2 part country weekly interview, the tv special, with v. little spark.
its almost like hes suffocating.
(20 million albums sold this year, 61 million dollars in touring, no. 1 on pop and country charts, no. 2 touring band--we still dont know who he is...)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 3 December 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 3 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 3 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Saturday, 3 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Saturday, 3 December 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Monday, 5 December 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 5 December 2005 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Monday, 5 December 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I think Gary Allan is a lot like Ricky Nelson, has a way of playing cool and gentle with forceful stuff, though Allan can swoop and swing extravagantly on the rare occasions when he wants to. See If I Care and Tough All Over work better for me than Alright Guy did because on those two Allan keeps the relaxed cool in his singing. When I'm thinking of Allan as a rock 'n' roll balladeer (not sure if "balladeer" is the right word; a quiet treatment, but the songs aren't necessarily ballads), I'm thinking of the stuff that feels like "Travelin' Man."
(Of course, who's to say he won't do well with extravagance and gruffness in the future.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 8 December 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 8 December 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Thursday, 8 December 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
*Spooked* by Marley's Ghost, produced by Van Dyke Parks, due out in February, is pretty good in a sub-Hurley/Holy Modal Rounders (yet managing to pull off a sense of humor and energy at times that reminds me of them) old-timey folk revival revival (mostly non-slow trad covers, a few originals) kind of way. R. Crumb did the cover artwork; their website says it's their fourth album, but first to get national distribution. Also calls them "bluegrass," but they're way too concise and catchy and songful and non-full-of-themself mucianshipwise to deserve such an insulting classification. Best song: Either "High Walls," a dark one about death of morphine in a Minnesota prison apparently, or "Old Time Religion," which eventually evolves into this humurous verse, after one about Zarathustra: "Let me worship Aphrodite/She's naughty and she's flighty/And she doesn't wear a nightie/And that's good enough for me." And oh yeah, they also do a song about Johnny Hallyday and how the French don't understand rock'n'roll. Not to mention one where they take all your Beatles and Stones and Grateful Dead records, and "Wicked Messenger" by Bob Dylan.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 9 December 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, apropos of nothing much, I like this Chet Flippo article.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 9 December 2005 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link
The book I refer to a couple posts above is actually *Spreadin' Rhythm Around: Black Popular Songwriters, 1880-1930* by David A Jasen and Gene Jones; I'm up through Bert Williams now, though, and I'm starting to lose interest in it a little. (Also, what I mistakingly call the "murder ballad" era up above -- late 1880s/early 1890s, I guess; I forget the precise time coordinates, but somewhere in there, once Tin Pan Alley and sheet music started displacing the traveling blackface tent shows that stopped at every town with a train station -- is actually refered to as the "tearjerker" era in the book. *Could* include murder songs, but also pretty much anything based on a sad newspaper article, like for instance a baby drowning in a bathtub. The beginning the end, the authors say, of American popular music losing its full dependency on European melodic structure, and the immediately subsequent coon-song era, despite relying on blatantly racist lyrics by definition, would instigate the emphasis on 4/4 beat that would soon result in ragtime, cakewalks, jazz, blues, and so on.)
Noticed in the *Times* this morning that the Grammys have a "best contemporary folk album" category now; is that new? Nominees are Springsteen, John Prine, Nickel Creek, Rodney Crowell, and Ry Cooder, I think - basicially, Triple A radio I guess. Have people decided once and for all that Bruce is a folk not a rock artist? Though interestingly, Alison Krauss is apparently nominated in the country category instead, which means they apparently don't think of *all* bluegrass as folk. And intriguing grouping, somehow, nonetheless; Nickel Creek and Crowell *are* more folk than country, seems to me.
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 December 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 9 December 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
The music descriptions are the best thing! I now want to hear whatever I can by Roy Orbison, Harry Belafonte. I'd previously thought of Belafonte as just a good guy, an activist, a cheerful novelty singer. In Dylan's book he's a titan, he's Gorgeous George the wrestler, he's Cassius Clay, he's Hercules, he's Belmondo. "He was dramatic and intense on the screen, had a boyish smile and a hard-core hostility." "Everything about him was gigantic. The folk purists had a problem with him, but Harry - who could have kicked the shit out of all of them - couldn't be bothered, said that all folksingers were interpreters, said it in a public way as if someone had summoned him to set the record straight."
What the book doesn't do is dig into the why of Dylan. The man who sang "I hope that you die" and "you just wanna be on the side that's winning" and "look out kid, you're gonna get hit" and "a little boy lost, he takes himself so seriously; he brags of his misery, he likes to live dangerously," the man who's conscience then explodes at the end of the song, that man's not on these pages and not even acknowledged. I'm only half through, but so far there's the same evasiveness and disingenuousness that entered his music after 1966. Dylan never claimed to be any sort of spokesman? Wait, guy, you did too: "How much do I know, to talk out of turn; you might say that I'm young, you might say I'm unlearned..." And even if he hadn't sung that passage, he spoke, people heard, that's how you get made a spokesman. I can understand how in 1968 he wanted to build a house with picket fence and moat if necessary to build a protected life for wife and three kids, but he's the one earlier in the book who's hearing the truth in Billy Lyons rootin' the mountain down, Black Betty bam de lam. So, how did he get from dark Betty to house and white fence with mom and dad and buddy and sis?
Of course, this missing "why" leaves the space open for my book. No one does Dylan like Kogan (except maybe for Johnny Rivers, who Dylan extols as singing a better "Memphis" than Chuck Berry had and a better "Positively 4th Street" than he himself had).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I had been a big fan of Ricky's and still liked him, but that type of music was on its way out. It had no chance of meaning anything. There'd be no future for that stuff in the future. It was all a mistake. What was not a mistake was the ghost of Billy Lyons, rootin' the mountain down, standing 'round in East Cairo, Black Betty bam de lam. That was no mistake. That's the stuff that was happening. That's the stuff that could make you question what you'd always accepted, could litter the landscape with broken hearts, had power of spirit. Ricky, as usual, was singing bleached out lyrics. Lyrics probably written just for him. I'd always felt kin to him, though. We were about the same age, probably liked the same things, from the same generation although our life experience had been so dissimilar, him being brought up out West on a family TV show. It was like he'd been born and raised on Walden Pond where everything was hunky-dory, and I'd come out of the dark demonic woods, same forest, just a different way of looking at things. Ricky's talent was very accessible to me. I felt we had a lot in common. In a few years' time he'd record some of my songs, make them sound like they were his own, like he had written them himself. He eventually did write one himself and mentioned my name in it. Ricky, in about ten years' time, would even get booed while onstage for changing what was perceived as his musical direction. It turned out we did have a lot in common.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Joey Daniels' *Take Me Off The Market* is good catchy upbeat post-Shania/Jamie O'Neal-mode suburban secretarial-pool pop country on an indie label out of Florida; it'd probably be better if Joey let other people write more songs ("Kiss N Tell," Hallmark tropes about some new Perfect Guy she's fond of a la "He lights the candles/Puts the music on/Tells me I'm beautiful/Sometimes I think I'm dreaming/It's so wonderful," borders on embarassing), but I like almost every track so far anyway -- the title track the most so far, probably. (Sounds familiar too -- is there a CMT video, maybe?) In "Miracle" her singing gets adult-contemporary-bombastic Celine Dion style, almost. I wish I could describe singing voices half as good as Frank can, but that is not one of my skills, sadly. Anyway, Joey has a real one.
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 December 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
(I'm impressed by how Dylan inserts audacious description ["He was now singing his compositions in three or four octaves that made you want to drive your car over a cliff. He sang like a professional criminal."] without losing the casual flow.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
whose conscience, that is
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 9 December 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
What I notice about it so far is that the horns have tinny mutes, making them sound like tinker toys on every track. Will have to give this a bunch of spins before I say more.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
(Just as Spanish guitar appears all the time these days in MOR pop and r&b ballads, I suppose, though the feel is sentimental in today's pop, while the mariachi horns added tang to the old Nashville.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
As for lyrics, where they veer towards social commentary, it's with concerns - plight of displaced workers, for instance - that can play to either left or right, which may be why later on he felt at ease with both Atkins and the outlaws (or they with him, anyway). He did cover "Blowin' in the Wind" early on, and his second album has a song called "Lynchin' Party" that I've never heard. I don't know if this was gutsy or not in early '60s Nashville, but those songs couldn't have pleased everyone there.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Interestingly (or maybe not), it's her vocal inflections more than her arrangements (which are energetic, but not in any sort of Mutt Lange Def Lep Europop country way) that remind me most of Shania.
― xhuxk, Friday, 9 December 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link
The first four tracks are the four best, which is one reason I was so enthused upthread. His frailty weakens some of the other tracks, particularly a mercifully brief version of "My Heart Cries for You." "It's All in the Game" sounds nice, but hearing it makes me want to play Isaac Hayes' lush and wicked version instead.
Only on the last three tracks do the horns and reverb effects become intrusive enough to be irritating. And even so, on one of these, "Shine On Harvest Moon," all the camping it up and rib-jabbing unleashes genuine joy in Bare's singing. And it suddenly dawns on me what a great song "Shine On Harvest Moon" is. All these songs are good ones.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
The thing about "Blowin in the Wind," obviously, is that everybody covered it and by 1965 it had become a standard of sorts--and Bare always had a folkie tendency ("500 Miles" etc). I'm pretty sure Eddy Arnold and Glen Campbell recorded it before Bare in their own country/folky phases. Chet Atkins might have been behind all of that, for all I know.
Now I'm thinking: could the horns on those Bare tracks be the "western" in the "country and western"? An evocation of the West via a vague Mexican allusion even when it has nothing to do with the song itself?
I like the new Bare but haven't played it much since I got it. His voice is gone, and I have a hard time hearing it. That doesn't bother me so much with Prine for some reason. I saw Bare do a set at the Americana Music Association this past September. Utterly subdued cycle of songs, with a band held together by Paul Burch's rhythm guitar, but good selections, and by no means a phone-in.
― Roy Kasten, Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Last year's "Juran Y Juran" is one of the most gorgeous and delicious and playful "get lost, buster" songs I've heard in my life.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
The strings and background singers on "Detroit City" work for me, too. Maybe this is because they provide the official swelling pathos, allowing Bobby to lay back and just sing, which he does beautifully.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 11 December 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Sunday, 11 December 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Chuck Eddy's Nashiville Scene Poll Ballot, 2005
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:1. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene (Epic)2. Deana Carter - The Story of My Life (Vanguard)3. Gary Allan - Tough All Over (MCA Nashville)4. Jamie O'Neal - Brave (EMI/Capitol)5. Shooter Jennings - Put the O Back in Country (Universal South)6. Lee Ann Womack - There's More Where That Came From (MCA Nashville)7. Dallas Wayne - I'm Your Biggest Fan (Koch)8. Big & Rich - Comin' To Your City (Warner Bros.)9. Elizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands - Happy Doing What We're Doing (Freedom)10. Little Big Town - The Road to Here (Equity Music Group)
TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:1. Shooter Jennings featuring George Jones - 4th of July (Universal South)2. Miranda Lambert - Kerosene (Epic)3. Dierks Bentley - Lot of Leavin' Left to Do (EMI)4. Kentucky Headhunters - Big Boss Man (CMUJ Entertainment)5. Erika Jo - I Break Things (Universal South)6. Deana Carter - The Girl You Left Me For (Vanguard)7. Toby Keith - As Good As I Once Was (Dreamworks)8. Brad Paisley - Alcohol (Arista Nashville)9. Tim McGraw - Drugs or Jesus (Curb)10. Shannon Brown - Corn Fed (Warner Bros)
TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2005:1. *Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows: 1926-1937* (Old Hat)2. *You Ain't Talkin to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music* (Columbia/Legacy)3. David Allen Coe - *Penitentiary Blues* (Hacktone)4. *The Dukes of Hazzard* (Columbia/Sony Music Soundtrax)5. Rosanne Cash - *Seven Year Ache* (Columbia/Legacy)
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:1. Gary Allan2. Toby Keith3. Kenny Chesney
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:1. Miranda Lambert2. Deana Carter3. Shannon Brown
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2005:1. John Rich2. Miranda Lambert3. Deana Carter
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2005:1. Big & Rich2. Little Big Town3. Odyssey Band
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST INSTRUMENTALISTS OF 2005:1. James "Blood" Ulmer2 Leroy Powell3. Shooter Jennings
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2005:1. Miranda Lambert2. Shooter Jennings3. Shannon Brown
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2005:1. Miranda Lambert2. Deana Carter3. Big & Rich
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Singles1) “Best I Ever Had” – Gary Allan2) “Kerosene” – Miranda Lambert3) “Move Along Train” – Marty Stuart & Mavis Staples4) “4th of July” – Shooter Jennings5) “Johnny Met June" – Shelby Lynne6) “Chicago Wind” – Merle Haggard7) “I May Hate Myself In the Morning” – Lee Ann Womack8) "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do" -- Dierks Bentley9) “Dance Hall Girls” – The Duhks10) “Atlanta & Birmingham” – Deana Carter
Reissues1) You Ain't Talkin to Me -- Charlie Poole 2) Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows: 1926-1937 3) Country Songs For City Folks/Memphis Beat – Jerry Lee Lewis4) Little Darlin Sound of Jeannie C Riley – Jeannie C Riley5) Little Darlin Sound of Should Have Been Hits
Best Male Vocalist1) Gary Allan2) Marty Stuart3) Brad Paisley
Female Vocalist1) Joy Lynn White2) Lee Ann Womack3) Deana Carter
Best Songwriters1) Deana Carter2) Shelby Lynne3) Joy Lynn White
Best Duos/Groups1) Thad Cockrell and Caitlin Cary2) The Duhks3) Reckless Kelly
Best Instrumentalists1) Jerry Douglas2) Norman Blake3) Kenny Vaughn
Best New Acts1) Shooter Jennings2) Thad Cockrell & Caitlin Cary3) Miranda Lambert
Best Overall Acts1) Marty Stuart & His Fabulous Superlatives2) Deana Carter3) Shooter Jennings
― Roy Kasten, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Cowboy Troy—Loco MotionComments: Think of the eclecticism here (in subject mater, language,vocal style, instrumentation) as iron filling and the presence/skillof Troy as a magnet.2. Neko Case—The Tigers Have SpokenComments: Holy fuck can this woman sing. She chooses some of the mostemotive vocalists in female music (Loretta Lynn, Marge Ganser) andsings them differently. This would seem to be supreme arrogance, buther skills are so strong and so adaptable, that her versions becomeindispensable, without overwhelming history. Think of all the womenwho sang Silver Threads and Golden Needles, for example, and howhungry the listener would be if there were only one version recorded.3. Brad Paisley—Time Well WastedWith in a week of this album's release, I wrote 3000 words on it, notbecause it was good but because I could not reconcile it in my head. Istill cannot. I fear it's not very good, but it's ambitious, andhonest. Sometimes that's all a critic can ask for.4. Lee Ann Womack—There's More Where That Came FromI wrote about the politics in the single section—and that's important.But the music here, the wit and speed of the playing, the low growlingof Womack's contralto, and the pockmarked sheen of Countrypolitian eraNashville, make this one of the most rewarding albums, aurally.5. Alasdair Roberts—No Earthly ManWill Oldham drags the best Child Ballad singer back to North Carolina,and they make a harsh, discordant and violent album of murder ballads.For people used to the sheer prettiness of Roberts's voice, the longsections of feedback and noise are a shock. The connection between thediscord in the music and the discord in the record made me think aboutthese centuries old songs differently.6. Gogol Bordello—Gypsy PunkOne of the grand meta-narratives of Country music is the settling ofimmigrants and the redemption of the poor. There is a metonymy inmaking mountain music slickly commercial and making mountain peoplesolidly middle class—in the road from Hank Williams to Porter Wagonerto Kenny Chesney. I find something similar in how Bordello works thehistory of Russian immigrants in New York in the 20th century. Heupdates and deconstructs folk music, but raw, raging, angry shit aswell. I wish someone would do something similar to Nashville7. Toby Keith—Honky Tonk UAnything that mentions threesomes and hot tubs is worth giving massivepoints too.8. Gretchen Wilson—Here for the PartyThe best thing that Wilson ever did was convincing the world that shewas just another redneck woman. She's too seasoned a performer, andher writers are too clever for the small-town girl act to last muchlonger, but I like that the toughness of women I grew up with is beingtalked about.9. Dwight Yoakham—Blame the VainEven at his most pedestrian, Dwight is better then 99 per cent ofpeople playing similar games.10. Richard Thompson—Front Parlor BalladsThere is a song on this album called Cressida that is such a smalldark melancholic thing that it infests the rest of the album. Thatinfestation makes the hard craft of this album eerie and haunting.
TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:
1. Jason Aldean---HicktownComments: The best thing about this isn't how hard it rocks (but itdoes), or how raw Aldeans voice is (but it is) or how much funeveryone is having (and its the most entertaining single of the year)or how ramped up the production is (that's Big and Richs doing) buthow authentic the cultural signifiers seem to be (a small list: WhiteRain, Pall Malls, Bingo, Mudding, Buying Beer at Amoco) (From My Blog)
2. Brad Paisley--Where I Get where I am GoingComments: I think the rest of Paisley's explicit traditionalism goesagainst him. His songs with women are often misogynist, his politicalwork is often retrograde, his humor is borscht belt stale, but his godwork is astonishing. It comes deep and long, a personal, not politicalexplicitness that features his simplest playing and his most earnestsinging. There is nothing new here, but because it lacks evangelism,and does not tie God to the flag, its holiness moves slowly andearnestly. In this age of Bush and Blair, of fake church going and badpseudo metal in churches the size of small towns, which lookarchitecturally like Wal-Marts, having something that sounds like thisis like a balm in Gilead.
3. Joe Nichols--Tequila Makes her Clothes come OffComments: The look that Nichols has in the video for this is a satyr'sleer is one of the most erotic things to come out of Nashville. Addthe good ol' boy roll of the song, his baritone lighter and more fluidthen Toby Keith's strum and drang, and forget about the awkwardproduct placement.
4. Jessica Simpson--These Boots were made for Walking.Comments: Deeply underrated because of Smith's outer life, and becauseDukes of Hazard: The Movie was shit, has the mad genrefucking expectedin the Muzik Mafia, but less self consciously constructed forauthenticity. Incredibly good fun.
5. Toby Keith and Merle Haggard—She Ain't Hooked on Me No MoreComments: I gave this album a mediocre review when it first came out,and then listened to it again, and was wondering why. I guess I amsomewhat sick of the Toby Keith Patriotism and Easy Sex tour, andnoticed the mythmaking and personae building, ignoring what was goodabout it. The way that these two men sing together, their voices likesandpaper burnishing steel, its almost as good as Johnny Cash workingagainst Bob Dylan in A Girl From North Country.
6. kd lang—Dreams of An Everyday HousewifeComments: Camp often remakes of melancholy tragedy, the grind ofeveryday disaster is made ludicrous and serious at the same time, sothe listener can feel deeply and be above feeling deeply at the sametime. Gay men invented it because they were not allowed in, and wantedto be. Desperate Housewives is camp for straight woman, realizing thatbeing allowed in is filled with as much bloody clawing. This song, onthe soundtrack, is lesbian camp. kd lang went from being thereincarnation of Patsy Cline to being a brilliantly loucheinterpretive singer. So there are about four levels to this song.There is a notice that the people who listen to country these days aresuburban women and that demographically the soundtrack should includea large chunk of that country. Then there is a butch lesbian singingas a man to a femme, domesticated woman, Drag being integral to camp.Then the song she chooses is by Glenn Campbell, who worked betweenNashville and Old Vegas, as lang does. Then she sings it with greatseriousness and even greater tragedy, the song is claustrophobic withdesire. If the song failed as an object, the inter-textual clevernessdoesn't matter. kd lang is so underrated as an arranger and a singer,this will also be forgotten
7. Lee Ann Womack—When I Think About CheatingComments: The thing that people forget about cheating, is that it's somuch fun. There have been many songs this year about uncomplicatedpleasures and albums equally about god and sin, with out any attemptsat finding the balance between the two, the exquisite anguish ofsexual desire both legitimate and illegitimate. This may not be thebest example of it on the album, but it's the most contained and thebest sung. The aching arching voices here remind me of aching, archingbodies.
8. Josh Gracin--Big Brass BedIt turned me on.
9. Miranda Lambert—KeroseneComments: "Forget you high society, I'm soakin' it in Kerosene/Light'em up and watch them burn, teach them what they need to learn HA!"Come the Revolution, Miranda is going to be putting heads on pikes alot quicker then Zach Le Rochas.
10. Tim McGraw—Drugs or JesusI live in a small town, its pretty fucking close to the way things run.
TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2005:
1. Faron Young—Hillbilly Heart Throb2. You Ain't Talking to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country MusicComments: Maybe before I die, the Banjo will get as much respect as the guitar.3. Porter Wagoner—Misery Loves Company.Masked Weasel has done a dozen or so recordings of non-typical earlyrecordings of country stars that came to age in the 60s and 70s. Ilike this one because all of the elements of Wagner's sticky slickgenius are in place and his barely controlled lust as well.4. The Rough Guide to the Music of the Balkan GypsiesComments: It's in the fiddles. It's in the hunger. It's in therambling. All of this hits my country buttons, the cheating songs, thedrinking songs, the loving songs, the poverty songs—they are all here.Everything you want from country comes from the Romany, even if theScots and the Africans came to America first.
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Brad Paisley2. Joe Nichols3. kd langHow she presents gender, and how she constructs it, is primarilymasculine, and her country work this year has been very phallic.Gender is mutable and about presentation.
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Lee Ann Womack2. Trisha Yearwood3.Gretchen Wilson
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST LIVE ACTS OF 2005:
1. Jason McCoy2. Big and Rich3. Kelly HoganSinging Papa is a Rodeo; she sits still, closes her eyes, and looksup. That transcendence was better then any of the stadium shows Ihave seen this year.
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2005:
1. Big and Rich2. John Darnielle3. Corb LundCorb is a local boy done somewhat good, best at references that aretied very close to the land where he grows up, with out making itsound like he's doing that. Also manages to avoid the deadlyseriousness of the singer-songwriter genre.
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2005:
1. Big and Rich2. Montgomery GentryI really should like their brand of All American silly fascism muchless then I do.3. Ha-AshMexican Popish Country, reminds me of how close the border is, and howtransparent, and how young folks these days are seeming to listen toeverything and mash it all through up. Tender, sweet and generous.
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST INSTRUMENTALISTS OF 2005:
1. Mitch Marine2. Sean Paddock3. Yuri Lemeshev
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2005:
1. Ha-Ash2. Martha WainwrightHer parents and brother are famous, she's been playing in clubs andbars for a decade or more, but the rawness and the wit of BloodyMother Fucking Asshole broke her wide open. Lightening Strikes twicein the same family sometimes.3. Cowboy Troy
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2005:
1. Lee Ann Womack2. Alasdair Roberts3. Toby Keith
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 16 December 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 December 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 16 December 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
"Alt-country single (and most rocking suicide song) of the year: "Callin' In Dead" by Mazey Gardens & the Brick Hit House Band, disguised (all the way down to the attic-wrinkled-for-three-decades generic 7-inch sleeve) to look like a reissue of a minor country hit (on the apparently phony Åmbassador Records) from 1972. Koch and Sugar Hill did an okay job in helping me not completely hate alt-country this year, too, so kudos to them.But one thing I noticed about my country listening this year is that most of the more alt-country-leaning stuff I liked (Duhks, Donna the Buffalo, Maybelles, Patrcia Vonne, Hacienda Brothers, Reckless Kelly, Billy Don Burns) wound up being shelved for future reference after initially knocking me out (maybe I'm just impressed that alt-country finally seems to be acknowledging that music should have some rhythm in it?), whereas the stuff that kept growing on me and revealing new things about itself seemed mostly to be from Nashville (which is dancing more than it used to these days as well, obviously.) So my top ten, as usual, wound up way more pop than alt, again. But nobody can say I didn't try for the other side. Still: Switching off one summer night between new albums by apparent alt-country Missourians the Domino Kings and the Morells (both on Hightone), I was thinking "not completely horrible as alt-c&w goes", until Van Zant's new album came up next in my CD player by accident, and it totally trounced them with its eyes closed and mine closed too. (Good thing it wasn't on a computer, though.) And then there's Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell's *Begonias*: Listened to this 'cuz Bob Christgau said I should. He loves the opening track, a sort of lamenting-our-open-marriage duet, and i guess it's pretty nifty as blando alt-country with vaguely pretty singing and a decent melody and no other music to speak of goes. I like the song where some girl escapes halfway to Califonia better, since lyrics about California let alt-country bands have hooks that aren't otherwise allowed. And the one about waiting for some girl named June in January was slightly clever. But still: way too NPR, way too genteel, way too afraid of the messiness of life and afraid of life in general. Bob seemed seemed to think it's kinda sexy; I think it's kinda sexless. Caitlin used to be in Whiskeytown, right? Don't remember if I ever heard them."
I liked lots of Anthony's comments, too, by the way! Especially the ones about how gypsy and Mexian music should count as country, too.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
As far as albums vs. singles, I do think that Deana, Gary and Cantrell, for ex., work really well as unified statements, esp. Gary Allan, where the tone is so perfectly achieved that you can just lull along with it without realizing how dark the thing is. But yeah, another year in Nashville, and I dunno, seems to me maybe that the whole thing that has had alt opposing country maybe disappeared somewhat, given the Duhks and Nickel Creek, etc., and Donna the Buffalo, whose record I really liked in parts...? The most interesting thing, to me, was the neo-politan leanings of Bare and the way country just went pop-pop with Deana's record and those two great Keith Anderson singles and Dierks' single, just such pure, perfect pop music that all the old antipathy, alt or not, seems kinda old-fashioned and irrelevant to me--these artists are really doin' it, no nostalgia or alt- needed? And I had to put "Big Boss Man" in; such a needed piece o' sleaze and halfway not-givin'-a-fuck, in the end I quite enjoyed pestering my friends with their album, so maybe country is rock and roll now too.
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:
1. Gary Allan, Tough All Over (MCA Nashville)2. Deana Carter, The Story of My Life (Vanguard)3. Sara Evans, Real Fine Place (RCA)4. Dwight Yoakam, Blame the Vain (New West)5. Bobby Bare, The Moon Was Blue (Dualtone)6. Reckless Kelly, Wicked Twisted Road (Sugar Hill)7. Big & Rich, Comin' to Your City (Warner Bros.)8. Laura Cantrell, Humming by the Flowered Vine (Matador)9. Amy Rigby, Little Fugitive (Signature Sounds)10. Brad Paisley, Time Well Wasted (Arista Nashville)
1. "Best I Ever Had," Gary Allan (MCA Nashville)2. "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do," Dierks Bentley (Capitol)3. "Alcohol," Brad Paisley (Arista)4. "XXL," Keith Anderson (Arista Nashville)5. "Intentional Heartache," Dwight Yoakam (New West)6. "Kerosene," Miranda Lambert (Epic)7. "Real Fine Place," Sara Evans (RCA)8. "Pickin' Wildflowers," Keith Anderson (Arista Nashville) 9. "Mississippi Girl," Faith Hill (Warner Bros.)10. "Big Boss Man," The Kentucky Headhunters (CMJU Entertainment)
1. Terry Allen, The Silent Majority: Terry Allen's Greatest Missed Hits (Sugar Hill)2. You Ain't Talking to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music (Sony)3. David Allan Coe, Penitentiary Blues (Hacktone)4. Big Kenny, Live a Little (Hollywood)5. Everly Brothers, Two Yanks in England (Collectors Choice)
1. Gary Allan2. Bobby Bare3. Blaine Larsen
1. Sara Evans2. Trisha Yearwood3. Deana Carter
1. Amy Rigby2. John Rich3. Brad Paisley
1. Big & Rich2. Brooks & Dunn3. The Duhks
1. Kenny Vaughan2. Brad Paisley3. Reggie Young
1. Blaine Larsen2. Carrie Underwood3. Miranda Lambert
1. Sara Evans2. Big & Rich3. Gary Allan
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Which I think is accurate--it's glossy pop on the order of New or of maybe Green Gartside (speaking of someone whose ideological redemption also came with received-notion sex in tow). I don't really care all that much about her ideology or her redemption, 'cause what does this fantastically sexy woman got to worry about? She's content, she's even a bit concealed and mysterious in her sexiness, and she's smart enough to make really great records. It's a fantasy world anyway, I mean "Coalmine" is great but also ridiculous, on her new one, and there you go for "ideology," she's so horny she won't even let her husband get enough sleep to go to work in the coalmine. Well, they both seem to be happy enough, hope that they can keep it up, living in W. Virginia or E. Ky. there by the coalmines. And that's what I love about country music and Nashville, mainstream. It addresses stuff lefties like me or you might find interesting and then just disregards the niceties, because it's just a given that sex, love, a good house or shack by the coal mine, who needs money? These performers are speaking to an audience who wants to forget about things like coal mines and unions and textile mills, they're happy in the suburbs, yet the song Warren mentions, "Bible Song," is all about getting the fuck out there before YOU commit suicide, so I guess there's some reality at work there too? I'm happy to be confused about it and get no answers, and I really like Evans's record. I like to put in into the changer with Deana's and this old Bobbie Cryner record I found (whatever happened to her? she was something special, I think) and savor the contast, between late-'90s understated sexy neotrad and today's overstated sexy non-neotrad, and the return of Jack Nitzsche and Jackie DeShannon in Carter's California-ized pop (California being a dreamscape somewhat different from the coal mine of Evans's song).
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 16 December 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree, as far as the 3 albums of these that I've actually heard; and I kind of hope you're right about the 3 albums I didn't hear, since it makes me feel less guilty for missing them!
>On the other hand, a pop diva like Carter made a career record, which she wrote and produced (I'd love to have sat in on those sessions) and orchestrated commerically and artfully within what's pretty much an alty-Americana model without sacrificing her pop strengths<
I agree with this too, actually.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 December 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten, Friday, 16 December 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
My Top 2 right now is probably Bobby Pinson and Miranda Lambert. A little surprised Pinson hasn't showed up more on the ballots on this thread.
I'll post my ballot here when I submit it, which may not be until the last minute -- taking a big bag o country discs on a road-trip this weekend, including lots of stuff mentioned on this thread that I hadn't gotten around to listening to yet.
― chris herrington (chris herrington), Friday, 16 December 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 17 December 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Madonna - I love the single, hate the rest of it. Lindsay Lohan - I hate the single, love the rest of it. (Isn't this what fundamentalists urge us to do: hate the single but love the singer?) Kelly Clarkson - way better than Christgau says it is, of course, but I can hear how incipient Faithisms and Celinetudes could weigh it down for him (and even for me, to some extent). Tatu - finely flimsied Europop at its finest, which surprises me (not the flimsiness or the Europop, but the fineness, since the single they emerged with several years ago had struck me as finely diced dime-a-dozen Europop and I didn't believe the hype; maybe the difference is no Trevor Horn this time).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link
But to relate these albums to the putative subject matter of this thread:
Madonna wore a cowboy hat on the cover of her previous CD, which has nothing to do with the new album, or with the previous either, as far as I could tell, but here she is and I'm talking about her. The new CD is even duller than the others she's put out in the last fifteen years, which shocks me though probably shouldn't have, but I had hopes for this thing because (1) I love the single, and (2) I'd liked chief collaborator Stuart Price's Les Rythmes Digitales album from 1999 enough to have put it on my Pazz & Jop ballot (after which I totally forgot about him and it until seeing some ILM discussion several weeks ago lauding his subsequent career remixing any and everything under pseudonyms such as Jacques La Cont, Thin White Duke, Zoot Woman, Pour Homme, Paper Faces, Man With Guitar).
So the single samples the riff from Abba's "Gimme Gimme a Man After Midnight," putting it in a beautiful setting and when the riff is absent giving a beautiful texture to the chords. And the rest of the album has equally beautiful textures, and wonderful troughs and swells whenever a song transitions from verse to chorus or chorus to verse or verse to break. What it doesn't have is a single melody worth transitioning too, anywhere, except for that one Abba riff on track one. So you end up with soggy high-class mood music, all the beautiful swells and stuff just weighing everything down - er, wait, I mean, hold on, I can't use "weigh" again, um, dragging everything down? drenching everything up? (Oh, I don't know.) Her voice makes the tracks draggy too, I don't know why; it's the sort that needs a melody, not an atmosphere, I guess. "Hate" is probably an exaggeration - no, it isn't, I really don't like the thing, but I'll admit there are musically worthy moments. The obnoxious "I Love New York" song is as stupid as Joan Morgan says in her Voice review (she loved the album except for this track) but is actually one of the few signs of life, probably because it cops the chord pattern to Iggy's "I Wanna Be Your Dog" (an odd riff for a Detroit chick to use in a tribute to New York, given that the Stooges' home base was Ann Arbor, but maybe she or Price didn't notice the resemblance to "Dog").
Maybe I'm listening wrong and can come to hear it differently.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
But to get bring us back to this thread, the best song on the Lohan, "I Live for the Day," matches "Kerosene" in virulence if not in stompability: "I live for the day, I live for the night, that you will be desperate and dying inside." (Glad to see that Lindsay has found a purpose in life) (though this was one of the songs she didn't co-write [writer's credits are available at allmusic.com].) And there's a meta moment worthy of Big & Rich where at the start of a the title, "A Little More Personal," she and a producer (or someone) are arguing over whether songs should have spoken intros (Lindsay in favor of them because they make the record a little more personal). But I kinda don't think Big & Rich will ever begin a song by singing: "God won't talk to me. I guess she's pretty busy." Or if they do, it won't get on the radio.
(My rationalization for posting this here is that by exploring what noncountry can and can't do, this tells us something about what country can and can't do. My real reason is that this is a more congenial thread than most to post on. And more fun.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 05:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Kelly Clarkson - She's someone who could conceivably jump to country if she wanted to, since several of her songs (esp. "Breakaway") aren't far from the basic land of pop-country crossover, if she were ever to choose it. I don't think she knows yet which genre she'll settle into. She's playing big on CHR pop and adult contemporary so she'll probably continue offering the loud-bright-rock-and-gentle-ballad combo special. As of now she wants wall of guitars on her wailing choruses, which is something country has yet to allow.
She's got a love-is-the-drug my-love-for-you-is-toxic song (called "Addicted," appropriately enough) that is more flat-out pained and less knowing than you'd get in the country equivalents (or in Sheryl's or Britney's, for that matter): "It's like you're a leech, sucking the life from me/It's like I can't breathe without you inside of me."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Jamie O'Neal is just the reverse (good verse, disappointing choruses); certainly t.A.T.u. and she could come to a deal: "You provide the verses, we'll do the choruses":
I been starin' all day at the same computer screenAround here I'm treated like I'm just some damn machineI punch inI tune outNobody cares what I'm all aboutBut at 5:00 that endsThey're waiting for me, my girlfriends
Our home forever is outer spaceBlack stars and endless seas, outer spaceNew hope, new destinies, outer spaceForever we'll be in outer space, outer space
Also, I truly think that Deana Carter should start incorporating Europop, if she wants to extend her musical color sense. Might as well: what does she have to lose, at this point.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
it was harder to consume than any of the confessional singer songwriter shit that i engaged in, and was liminal b/w public and private personae in a way that seemed genuinely transgressive/taboo breaking.
not in the sense of oh my god this is so shocking (ie the ultra conceptual madonna of like a prayer) but in the sense of leave the poor girl alone, hasnt she suffered enough...
its something i dont have the crtical vocab for--and it doesnt matter if its nto v. good musically (and it isnt)--strangely enough, that overshare personal detail stuff seems to come in two places, girl pop (and i hear it in the shangri las, in the crystals, in other places) and in country--and the only place i felt it this year was in my inital reaction to the awful mindy mccready situtaion. (ie:finally we have tammy back)
does that a) make me a bad personb) make sense
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 18 December 2005 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link
A blues record. Or a soul record, maybe. Sad and beautiful and uplifting, top to bottom. but "I'm a D-Boy" makes me dance around my kitchen and "Best Rapper Alive" performs the impossible trick of making me like Iron Maiden. And those probably aren't even the best tracks -- "Shooter," maybe? "Grown Man"? "Get Over"? "Fly Out"? Also, the best album yet about Katrina. And at least Lil Wayne's fifth good album, which may well make him the hip-hop artist of the decade. How the heck did that happen, when nobody was looking?
Definitely in my P&J top ten. All I have to figure out now is what to bump out for it.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 18 December 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 19 December 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
(ha ha, this is the country thread. well, he's from the south!)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, easing back to the thread topic. Did anybody hear of some Kid Rock wannabe white hick-hopper called DF Dub who put out an album called *Country Girl* on 3Sixty/Columbia in 2002? I didn't, but I came across the CD for $2 last week, and it's OK; the "country girl" (in the alleged "smash hit," according to the cover sticker -- that's bullshit, right? or was it a regional hit somewhere?) likes kenny chesney, dj dub jokes in another song that he wants to be a dixie chick (though in another he's sick of the taliban in afghanistan, among other things, including boy bands even though he kinda raps like he could be in LFO and he does a duet with samantha cole, wasn't she some fleeting teen pop star or something?), and he does a rap version of hank jr's "family tradition" speaking hank's unspoken "to get drunk!" and "to get stoned!" parts (most famous lines ever LEFT OUT of a song, for the audience to sing, or would that be the ones not in "mony mony" by billy idol?). And there's acoustic country-ish twang stuck into a bunch of the songs, and he also mentions an "old gent's club" in one song and i think "the elk's club" in another (did anybody ever mention the elk's club in ANY song before? my stepdad for a year when i was 16 or so was a member, out in the oakland county boondocks; creepy place, hadn't thought about it for decades). anyway, DF Dub's inept but fun. Says in one song he's from Michigan (has fleeting Eminem wannabe moments too; I suppose Bubba Sparxxx might be a reference point too, I dunno), but seems to mainly thank Dallas sports teams in the liner notes (not to mention "Michelle the Lesbian" and "Big Gay Steven.") Anybody ever hear of the guy before?
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
i think so, but they keep his image so soft, the pics, the angle, all that, i've never gotten the impression he and his handlers were able to pull of the dead-sexy thing. more like, i'll quietly get you drunk on tequila and we'll dance like depp and knightly did in pirates of the caribbean.
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
(I'm referring to the doomy, eerie suspense-film accompaniment, which I suppose is standard-issue for Southern hip-hop these days but usually with fewer streaks of fog, less Murnau mood, and fewer graveyard chorales.)
What's been the goth input into country? Nonexistent? (Well, there was that terrible Goth alt-country act that George or someone has already mentioned either on this thread or elsewhere, I'm too busy to look. Anything else?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Don, I had no idea that Deana Carter had recorded in Europe prior to Nashville. Did you actually hear the thing, or just hear of it? Allmusic, Amazon, and CMT seem not to know about it.
This leads to another question: Has country ever thrown itself into scrumptious, tuneful sugarpop? I mean really thrown itself, à la "My Boy Lollipop" and "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep," not merely done stuff with pretty touches. Some tuneful-oonfulness has emerged from country - I'm thinking of the Everly Brothers, and maybe the Hollies if you're willing to trace them back through (Buddy) Holly into country. The thing about Europop is that it's bubblegum that's not just for kids; ditto with hi-NRG disco, a lot of which is basically Europop; also '70s glam like Slade and Sweet and '80s glammy hair metal, both of which had huge kid attendance but weren't defined as kids-only; also some New Wave, for that matter. So, what about country? Shania was quasi-hair-glam, but did she ever really pour the sugar on herself? (That's a genuine question; I've heard only bits and pieces of her oeuvre.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Another interesting topic might be the way that country utilizes the child-abuse trope. Child abuse has been the subject of songs (T. Graham Brown "Which Way to Pray": "A little girl down on her knees/Saying 'Now I lay me down to sleep/Lord bless us with a happy home/And please make daddy leave me alone'"). Hank Snow had been an abused child, and he spoke out about child abuse, but as far as I know (which isn't very) he didn't make it an integral part of his image. Whereas in modern teenpop - Pink, Ashlee, Lindsay - their childhood sufferings (don't know if there was abuse or just the usual divorce and/or abandonment) singing about their suffering is an integrity move, something that's supposed to give songs and singers depth. (Which doesn't mean that it isn't gutsy, especially Pink's Missundaztood!. Ashlee's "Shadow" is a powerful song, but there are things in it that feel wrong to me.)
(This year on P&J's abandoned child front, M.I.A.'s said that she entitled her album "Arular" (which is her dad's political alias, just as "Lenin" was Vladimer Ilyich Ulyanov's poltical alias) in the hope that he'd see it and get in touch with her. That was one reason, anyway.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Hmm...Well, I definitely noticed the moaning monastery catacombs druids in the background of "Best Rapper Alive" (which I keep wanting to call "the Iron Maiden cover," even though I don't know if I've ever heard the Iron Maiden song it samples.) Didn't notice many druids in the other songs, though, but I'll listen for them next time.
Goth influence on country: Maybe Patricia Vonne, Pam Tillis, Bering Strait, Little Big Town, Nickel Creek? Not sure how explicit it is with any of them, though. And I guess it depends whether R.E.M. or Depeche Mode or rennaisance faire folk music count as goth (not that any of those country acts explicitly flaunt those influences either).
Prog influence of country: CW McCall, apparently, judging from the totally fascinating Jody Rosen feature on Manheim Steamroller in yesterday's Times Sunday magazine, which taught me, among other things, that CW McCall was apparently more two people than one person; or rather, a character invented by two people for use on radio ads in Colorado, which ads eventually evolved into "Convoy."
Listening to Linsay Lohan now. Kinda thinking that way too much of it sounds like the single! The Cheap Trick cover is okay. I like the new wave synthesizers in "A Little More Personal." Beyond that, I dunno. I definitely I think I prefer Linsay more when she's LESS personal. (Oh wait, "If You Were Me" is on now. What a bouncy little bassline:) But she may have no more business doing ballads than Gretchen Wilson.
I really liked a disco song Hilary Duff did last year that Metal Mike sent me the video of, but I forget its name. Thought both of her actual albums were okay, but not okay enough to keep them. Never heard the greatest hits CD. May still have a soundtrack that's half songs by her and half songs by other people in the storage garage.
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
we keep forgetting with the tits, and the voice, that lohan is still basically a child.
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
(I really know nothing about her life, so I'm staying out of that discussion. She was really entertaining in *Mean Girls,* however.)
(By the way, speaking of lives, Frank, you know Ashlee supposedly collapsed after a show in Asia late last week, right? Last I heard, on Saturday I think, she was still being hospitalized. Hope she's OK.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051220/ap_en_mu/brooks_dunn_stones
― Roy Kasten, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link
(Actually, "Black Hole" on the Lohan sounds worse than the "Confessions" song, but to mention this earlier would have conflicted with my hyperbole above. Everything else on the alb is listenable, including "Confessions," though usually I'll program out "Confessions," "My Innocence," "A Little More Personal," and "A Beautiful Life," the last of which - the Goddess one - is probably also worse than "Confessions." So, the ones I like a lot are, more or less in order of preference, "I Live for the Day," "Edge of Seventeen" (even though Lindsay does some of the lamest ooo ooo ooos in history), "Who Loves You," "If It's Alright" (a power ballad), "I Want You to Want Me," and "Fastlane.")
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link
(My favorites on the album are the bouncy beautiful goofy kiddie song and the one that laments mass murder, which happen to be the same song!)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link
So, this is how the newbies are faring in the race for my Pazz & Jop albs/EPs ballot:
Certain: t.A.T.u.Probable: Lady SovereignPossible: Lil Wayne, LohanNice, but no cigar: Kelly Clarkson, Shakira, Rolling Stones, HilaryNo way in hell: Madonna(but I have miles to go before I sleep)
Singles are unchanged, "Gasolina" still hanging on to 10th place by its fingernails.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
'Twas "Wake Up."
Wow, I shelved that taTu album after one or two plays. Maybe I should pull it back out...
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
(Sorry, had to split up that post since I'm an UNREGISTERED POSTER, wtf??)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
taTu starts to get kinda watery after the first few cuts, seems to me.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link
(Without my EP rule, Miranda and Deana wouldn't have a shot. They both still do; up to a week ago I'd have said that Deana was a lock, but there's enough new competition to drop her all the way down to "possible.")
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't like white guysdoing soul but do like whiteguy's ripping off soul.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 159 for +"Lady Sovereign" +"country & western". (0.41 seconds)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Results 1 - 3 of 3 for +"Russian lesbians" +"country & western". (0.25 seconds)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Which raises the question: are there many c&w songs where the singer or narrator spells out her name?
"I'm Not Lisa" is the only one that comes to mind.
Also, any country singers who extol their women as being "a bad bitch, a face like Trina, an ass like Jacki-O" ("Tear It Up" on the Young Jeezy album)?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I can't think of any country songs that spell out names of the singers. Do guitars with names spelled on the neck in mother of pearl count? Probably not. Mary Chapin Carpenter has a song in which a guy in a diner uses tip change to spell out the name of a waitress. I've always wanted to do that, but never have that many nickels.
― Roy Kasten, Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Best cut: "Trapstar."
Country-related comment: My guess is that Southern hip-hop uses even more strings (and "strings," i.e., keyboard orchestral equivalents) than country does, though critics rarely give any notice to hip-hop orchestrations. I've read several reviews of Weezy, and they mention "Aaaayy" and coke but not his slow voice, the atmospherics, or the suspended fanfares.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
>Jon Nicholson, *A Lil Sump'm Sump'm* (Warner Bros): Muzik Mafioso white (or beige?) soul. Makes me worried about a John Hiatt onslaught on CMT, but I think I like it okay regardless. High points so far: the one where his grandma gets high for the first time in her life, and the one where he "used to listen to Al Green and the Faces/Cheap Trick and the Replacements." Better than anything I've heard by Westerberg in the last 2 decades, probably; beyond that, I dunno yet.<
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
>decided i like the jon nicholson album all the way through, but i only really like a couple tracks (mainly, the ones mentioned above) a LOT. he has more rob thomas or adam duritz (that's the counting crows dude right?)-doing-van morrison shtick in him than john hiatt, turns out. (will counting crows become a big influence on country? that pat green album last year had {and maybe even started with? i forget) with a counting crows as van imitation too {a good one. seems mainly used in songs about california, so far.})<
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
>also there is one track on the nicholson, #6 I think, where nicholson's lousiana traveling show phrasing reminds me of whoever sang "southern nights" in the '70s. (would that be alan toussaint? or did he just write it? i am right now thinking that glen campbell had the hit with it, but i don't think nicholson sings like campbell, unless campbell sang that song differently than most of his other hits. assuming he sang it at all; i can't check right now. maybe i'm totally mixed up. but anyway, i like nicholson's imitation in that song of whoever he is imitating.) there is also a song about a prostitite who charges more for taking you around the world than for goiing down. and there are riffs taken, pretty blatantly, from "smells like teen spirit" and beck's "where it's at." but the, uh, grateful dead-ish (i guess) closer where the grandma gets stoned is still pretty clearly the best song on the album, I think.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Frank: I'm in St. Louis, 17 years now, though originally from the mean streets of Elmhurst Illinois. Who is Teeny? Underground hip-hopper I should know about?
Don: I tried to listen to the BNC album but couldn't endure it -- and I have more tolerance for non-denominational/spiritual/singersongwritering than most. I like love but maybe I just don't love love. I do, however, have a crappy cassette dub of the audio from a CMT (I think) guitar pull featuring Waylon, Bare Sr., Lyle, Kimmie Rhodes, maybe Guy Clark, and Beth. She did a song called "Seven Shades of Blue" which is one of the most gorgeous elegies I've ever heard.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I need to pull that Nicholson album back out, maybe; anyway, does my "Southern Nights" comparison ring true? Or does he sound more like Leon Redbone or somebody else in that song, whichever one it was?
― xhuxk, Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
And as long as I'm blabbing about Brian Henneman and St. Louis (I blame Frank), he does an annual solo Christmas night show in town that's always a good time. Sometimes the Brox, who have just finished recording a new record in Memphis (maybe Bloodshot is going to release it?), join in at the end of the night.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 December 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 23 December 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 23 December 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link
It is hard to explain to Europe, North America's obsession with Jesus. It is even harder to explain the popularity of young and smart creative types wrestling with a neo-orthodox Jacob, parental rebellion and dissatisfaction with the culture only go so far.
I cannot explain it, because I feel so much--and others who have tried, have been bogged down with variations of pop anthropology (the excellent Anne Powers on the alternative worship services at Mars Hill.) But to understand it, is to listen to it--and while I am sure that he has heard the Danielson Familee, and Sufjan, and he has gone into the freak folk missions in the 60s, through Gareth Lee, and I will not inflict praise and worship here, I want him to listen to this.
Page France, I know nothing about, and it is much better then the other update of Chariot symbolism this year (Gretchen Wilson). This song, about the rapture, and about the end of the world, is so tender, hopeful, optimistic, and free of fire and brimstone. It is about what people feel in the heart of hearts, to use a cliché.
In Matthew Christ tells us to go into the closet, and close the door to pray--there is something so hard about this...it is easy to mock lo-fi emo boys with their 4 tracks, singing love songs to girls who will never really love them, imagine finding a girl who will love you forever, all of that trepidation about adolescent desire remains, but their is a surety there too
and i wanted to expand the bit on gretchen wilson.
i know the authentic vs inauthentic debate is long dead, and artifice has won, but i keep hearing the two songs together, b/c of the way that i tunes works, and i do not believe wilson, i think its too am packed, too perfect, too clean, and tries too hard on its weirdness, its genre jumping.
i keep thinking of it against being religous, as having the plasticy (forgive me for using that word) hipness of nugod types--another version of that praise and worship is really rock and roll shit--and then i keep thinking about it, the jesus music i really liked this year, was all folky, simple, hymn singing, and people with guitars--and that might be where i am at, but it made me think...
where are the shiny post modern jesus masterpeices, either in country or something else==kayne doing jesus walks is the closest i could fnid
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
big and rich suffers the gretchen wilson line
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 23 December 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
And *69 Love Songs* would be 100 times better if sung by Tim McGraw.
(Also, I'm American, so that can't be my excuse for not understanding Sufjan's Jesus stuff. Though I grow up Catholic, if that makes any difference - I sure as hell understand *The Hold Steady's* Jesus stuff! And I can at least tell B&R's and Kanye's is there. More likely, I just don't understand Puritans. And Sufjan's voice sort of convinces me he is one, even if his words might suggest otherwise.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
plastic is not only shiny, but kind of kitschy, and sort of useless...i find it really heavily manufactured and sort of inauthentic, like the glow in the dark jesus night lights, but infused with a self awareness that compounds its (boredom, manipulation, something else here...i cant exactly place it--and it sounds like im making an arguement in the other direction and that makes me nervous...)
nugod types, i mean mega churches, the wal marts, with no real discernable theology and no hardness, no rawness, nothing emotionally naked, nothing abject, which maybe my catholicism is requiring...
the thing then, is how to make things work theologically, and work as "good", interesting, shiny, pop music, because it seems like something both country&hip hop people are (and have been) working on--and listening to the two chariots back to back, i see that--there is something cute and almost colonial/racist/off putting about Wilson (something I fail to see in lets say Holy Water by B/R or Jesus Walks by Kanye)
am i still obtuse?
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 23 December 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Our Father which art in heaven,Hallowed be thy name
etc.
This makes a good strong religious argument against prayer in schools, does it not? (Though one could always go into the janitor's closet and pray there, I suppose.)
For the Puritan argument for separation of church and state, see Roger Williams, whom I've written a song about, as has Slim Cessna, though my song's better and I know about Williams' actual ideas and Cessna doesn't. Here's an excerpt from Cessna's lyrics (to read mine, buy my book):
His name is Roger WilliamsMan he's got a soulHe's the man of the clothHe likes to rock 'n' rollBeatin' on his BibleJust to stay in timeTen little IndiansStanding in line
which misrepresents the man in so many ways I don't know where to begin, but no, he didn't beat on the Bible just to stay in time, he demanded that you read the Bible and think about what was written in it - "without search and trial, no man attains his faith and right persuasion" - and so he believed that the no state had the right to enforce a particular interpretation of the Bible on anyone, such false right being referred to by him as a "bloudy tenent" [tenet], since it was enforced with blood.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link
(nor "who" and "which")
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
if you guys had heardezequiel pena's discyou would all love it
it's all classicistbut ranchero done so well!mariachi punch
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Thanks for the info about Teeny, Frank. Feel free to let her know there's at least one other St. Louisian on board. I occaisonally peruse and butt in on some of the other threads, but I haven't explored much of the ILXiverse. I had fun swapping a few xmas tunes on that one YSI thread.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
New Josh Turner winds down to a song about gravity that's sadly more metaphorical than scientific followed by the rote "Way Down South" that ends with some nice jaunty picking of "Dixie". Just remembered there was also an earlier tune about feeling out of place in the big city. If this was an *Entertaiment Weekly* review, I'd give it a B.
― xhuxk, Friday, 23 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 24 December 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 24 December 2005 07:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 24 December 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Which is more or less what Tim McGraw sang a couple of years ago about David Schneiderman (well, about then-owners of the Voice, the Scene, etc.). It's an irrelevant comment, since rock isn't what it once was socioculturally, and jerks like Bush probably can rock as well as the next guy, and jerks like Reagan were widely perceived to be more "rock" than either Carter or Mondale. There's no incompatability between rock and Bushdom that I can see.
That said, not only don't I like the President, I don't see how wiretapping people without a warrant when there's a specific law against it as well as years of court decisions against it is different in kind from having your agents break into Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office without a warrant or having them break into the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate. All are equally crimes; all merit impeachment. (But impeachment won't happen. Not enough people care.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
more to the point, the legislature and white house are controlled by the same party. impeachment becomes a real possibility when a republican president faces a democratic congress (nixon) or vice versa (clinton).
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 25 December 2005 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Just listened to the Marianne Pillsburys' "Girls Night Out" which is the girls night theme gone bad: "Why is it that the alcohol doesn't make me feel special at all?" "So why is it that I feel so alone?" 'Cause one girl's making out with some guy in the corner, another is constantly on the phone with her boyfriend, and a third is in the girls' room throwing up.
(Not a country band; more in the genre I call "Long Island bar bitch," with bratty sex voice not unlike the Slunts or even the much-better-than-the-Slunts Lindsay Lohan. Not that any of those performers are from Long Island, that's just what the voice seems like to me. And the Marianne P's' singer only starts with that voice; then she goes plaintive as the night goes wrong.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, for the Churchillian effect I wanted I should have said, "Never in the field of human artistry was so much melody lavished by so many on such a tiny voice."
Unless, of course, there were many lavishing melody several years back on Robyn, whose voice is as tiny as Hilary's, and whose arrangements are as tiny as her voice. (I don't know her previous work, and the current has only a couple people doing the lavishing, from what I can tell.) I sympathize with the person over on the Robyn thread who said that Robyn is "pop" not pop (well, that's what the person intended to say), though that won't remove Robyn from my P&J candidates list (which also includes Fannypack, Annie, and Franz Ferdinand, all of whom are at least as "pop" not pop as Robyn). Robyn, like all of those parenthetically listed in the previous sentence, has an edge or a twist or something that I won't take the space to describe since she/it are not country-related. "Konichiwa Bitch," the one hip-hop track, is the most sublimely silly rap since "Jam On It" and "Attack of the Name Game," though with an edge/twist of obnoxiousness, the consciousness of its silliness being a who-gives-a-fuck bit of transgression.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link
I meant "conscious that its silliness is a who-gives-a-fuck bit of transgression," though I probably should have simply said, "the silliness has an air of 'who gives a fuck' and 'I am being gleefully transgressive,' which she is."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link
This is a mistake I makes all the time.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 25 December 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 26 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 26 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah, I think that, exactly. she's good live, though. her husband, Tim Carroll, does some nice Bare-Jr.-esque kinda stuff, he's an excellent guitarist. I've hung out with Tim and Elizabeth in the past, know them slightly, always thought Elizabeth was good. she gave me her CD when I bumped into them, after six-seven years, at the American fest (where she played a good set), and I just couldn't get into it. maybe she'll do something better, she was on a major label for one album back a few years ago, right?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 26 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Kathleen Edwards' "Back to Me," which I like more than "In State." I can see how she could be a bore at album length, but one at a time she's OK. I'd describe the style as L.A. folk-rock country-rock chick-rock that's heard the Velvets (the designation "L.A." obv. not having to do with where current practitioners are located), Lucinda I guess being the official queen of this little patch, though Sheryl (who goes Stones rather than Velvet, hence not in the patch) crushes any of it, at least Sheryl circa 1998. "Back to Me" is a thin pain sound w/ hard rock kicker, slowly tries to intensify. Worth more listens.
(I haven't heard this year's Sheryl. George and Chuck say nice things about it upthread, but are too brief.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
She'll sometimes push her voice super-high like Shakira's, though without the gear-grinding vibrato. Interesting.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Chitty chitty bang bang and I hit the floorTwo little piggies bust down my doorThe first little piggy went downSecond little piggy started poppin' off rounds
(That actually may have been among the town events that propelled him to daddy's farm. But it certainly implies that farm doors stay locked too.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
the working out of what makes a singer country is interesting once again, if one likes to play those kind of topopgraphic games...
― anthony, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link
She's got the #4 album of the year in Entertainment Weekly (behind Fiona, Beck, and Kanye), pretty ridiculous in its own right, but even more so when the magazine's #1 WORST album of the year is....get ready..."Coming To Your City" by Big & Rich!! Also, Chris Willman (whose new book about country music and politics looks promising) ties Martina McBride's most boring album ever (or at least since I started listening to Martina McBride albums) with Lee Ann Womack's for 8th place on his list. (And since his #4 is Robbie Fulks and his #6 is Rodney Crowell, now I'm wondering if the Womack isn't duller than I thought. It's not, but in such dull company, it sure deserves to be.) (At least Fulks and Crowell seemed dull when I dutifully once attempted to put them on; am I totally wrong about both of them?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link
>L.A. folk-rock country-rock chick-rock that's heard the Velvets<
Well, the Velvets' third album, anyway. Anyway, in case anybody missed it, some intriguing and amusing Dave Queen thoughts on this very topic:
http://villagevoice.com/music/0552,queen,71334,22.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
And of course this explains picking a Martina McBride LP where she covers THE MOST OBVIOUS COUNTRY MUSEUM RELICS IN HUMAN HISTORY AS IF WE SHOULD GIVE A SHIT AND RENDERS THEM COMPLETLY MEANINGLESS too.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Willman is wronger than wrong about that Martina album. Even if you grade it on a curve within its proper genre--country karaoke--it's a C-. But I doubt Willman thinks B&R, in general, is evil. He's written good stuff about them in the past and I'm pretty sure he gave Cowboy Troy's album a positive review.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
First album too, for "Heroin," the strum and drone. You know Lucinda's listened to that one, and all those other alt-sad-chicks have listened to Lucinda.
Gary Allan's "Just Got Back From Hell" owes a debt to "Heroin" too, though it actually sounds more like "Temporary Thing," the best track on Lou's Rock and Roll Heart.
And I think on another thread I talked about "Kerosene" having the Velvets in its ancestry, or if not the Velvets, then the Yardbirds and Kinks albs that the Velvets listened to.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Could be either "Breakaway" or "Because of You" (the blonder of the two) either or which could be country with (or without) a few tweaks, as could Hope Partlow's "Crazy Summer Nights," if you want to vote for any of them.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, this occurred to me after I sent my Nashville Scene ballot in; I hadn't thought before about thinking of it as "country". It did make my Pazz & Jop list, though (though technically it's still not a single, and probably won't be, now that Hope's label dumped her).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Didn't know she was dropped. With her personality and chops she will make money singing, guaranteed, if she wants to. I don't think the songwriting (and perhaps her taste, therefore) were near up to her voice, however. But what is she, seventeen?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link
And yeah, she's 17 (and I think the songwriting is often really good).
Mikael Wood's appraisal of her, Brie Larsen, etc, can be found here:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0552,wood,71326,22.html
And the fact that she picked peas on her family farm in Tennesse is pretty country, I guess! Perhaps country fans will eventually agree.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Hope Paltrow is far too pretty to remain in the peapatch, for sure.
and god, I couldn't get thru that last McBride album at all--I've always liked her OK, but that was just torturous.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link
(In general, I'm not one of these guys who says, "No, you gotta hear the remix.")
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago) link
well, it was, since no songs on the new album have anything as astounding as, um, retarded (or were they just crippled? i forget) kids dressing up as bags of leaves for halloween. (also, "god's will" was one of the worst songs on her previous album, which was actually pretty good.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0405,eddy,50736,22.html
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link
full respect, but ive always thot of mcbride as a commerical oppurtunist, who didnt know how to control her talent or hire people who did, even yr review seems to hint at the uneveness of the work.
and blount, was that really needed?
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link
why are you doing this?
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 December 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 29 December 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
(Is Chuck the only other person in these parts to have heard Kultur Shock? If Bordello are gypsy punk, these guys are Balkan thrash, among other things.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
i like acholol well enough, kind of clever, well constructed, but i dont understand it on all the best lists, can we talk about that
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link
eleven CDsall from Indies Records inthe Czech Republic
at least two of themmight have made my list if I'dgotten them in time
at least half of themare country-eligible,hott punkk violins(e)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Sorry to bust in everyone, but don, can you e-mail me please. My mail to your yahoo account is bouncing.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 30 December 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Paisley is the more skilled guitar player i tihnk
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
All Jacked Up by Gretchen Wilson (with the line: "I grabbed a tire tool and I broke my window, hurt my elbow got me in though"
Tequila makes her Clothes Come Off by Joe Nichols (with the line: I told her to put another layer on/you know what happens when she drinks Petron)
Good As I Once Was by Toby Keith, (with the line:I still throw a few back, talk a little smackWhen I'm feelin' bullet proof)
Hicktown by Jason Aldean (with the lines: We hear folks in the city party in Martini Bars And they like to show off in their fancy foreign cars Out here in the boondocks we buy beer at Amoco And crank our Kraco speakers with that country radio)
Compared to these, Pasiley is a workman
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link
It occurs to me that rock critics often frequent venues where (drunk) white people dance, as well. (An occupational hazard, perhaps, but it helps the song ring true.)
Note though that Toby beat Brad on my own Nashville scene list:8. Toby Keith - "As Good As I Once Was"9. Brad Paisley - "Alcohol"
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link
and just so you knowthe second-best reissuecan be found right here
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
i can do the charting, if you want--but i think that those did as well, im not saying its a bad song, and im not saying it didnt do well, i just find its critical ubquity strange.
thanksase
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Not my business, Anthony, but ahem.
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
No Depression Top 40 of 2005
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Right now he's probably slow dancing with a bleached-blond tramp, and she's probably getting frisky... right now, he's probably buying her some fruity little drink cause she can't shoot whiskey... Right now, he's probably up behind her with a pool-stick, showing her how to shoot a combo... And he don't know... That I dug my key into the side of his pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive, carved my name into his leather seat... I took a Louisville slugger to both head lights, slashed a hole in all 4 tires... And maybe next time he'll think before he cheats. Right now, she's probably up singing some white-trash version of Shania karoke.. Right now, she's probably saying "I'm drunk" and he's a thinking that he's gonna lucky, Right now, he's probably dabbing 3 dollars worth of that bathroom Polo... And he don't know... That I dug my key into the side of his pretty little suped up 4 wheel drive, carved my name into his leather seat, I took a Louisville slugger to both head lights, slashed a hole in all 4 tires... And maybe next time he'll think before he cheats. I might saved a little trouble for the next girl, Cause the next time that he cheats... Oh, you know it won't be on me!
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
oh my.
i've never heard that song, but that is an awesome lyric.
but oh my.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
No prob, and sorry, Anthony, I didn't mean to be Snow Meiser back at you. (p.s. I didn't get the "canon" thing--did you mean I was being canonical?)
I also think "Alcohol" made more lists than I would have predicted, and I was just trying to toss off ideas as to why--though really I don't have a clue. It sounds swell on my shitty radio in my car, I never turn the dial when it comes on, and if I were making a top 20 country singles list, it would be there, but I can't generate much more enthusiasm this early in the day. Oh wait, it's "Sympathy For the Devil" rewritten as a drinking song. Maybe that explains it. :)
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link
>"Alcohol" is Rolling Stone's numero uno single of the year. I think that says something. Its appeal is vast: I don't know if it was Paisley's biggest radio hit, but it was on the country stations here like crazy, plus the video was pretty good, actually great, by country video standards. It's an uber-singalong ala "Friends in Low Places" and maybe the funnest single about drinking since that tune. It's country that both country and non-country folks can dig. The point of view really is smart; without it the catalog would be indistinguishable. It's got some killer guitar and pedal steel and piano too. It's the first country song to name drop Hemingway. It fits great on a mix tape with Robert Jay's "Alcohol Pt. 1" from that groovy Searching For Soul compilation on Luv and Haight this year. But I still didn't vote for it.<
― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyways, I'm having fun listening to the new Jessi Colter album and drinking a Christmas present (a bottle of VO; more people should give booze for xmas). Among the many pleasures: electric piano MIXED LOUD. Maybe too much harmonica though.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 31 December 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link
The music is kind of... [shrugs].
Brad Paisley songs that mean a lot more to me than "Alcohol" does:
--"Whiskey Lullaby" (I like my alcohol songs better when someone dies)
--That one from several years back where he asks the girl if she wants to dance and she says "No," and he says, "That's good, I don't want to either," or something like that.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 06:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, you're right. I always forget about Chesney. I think it's a willful thing.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 31 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
As far as the Carrie Underwood song about scratching up the guy's car with her keys, I thought it was OK, didn't like the one she cowrote about Checotah. Liked the Diane Warren songs, one or two others, felt the whole record was overkill, just too damned much going on with the admittedly superb playing and Paul Buckmaster string arrangements dovetailing with the perfect guitar licks and all that, and sometimes her singing just really got underneath my skin. boy, someone really worked *hard* on that record, and I don't even think she's a bad singer at all--a good singer, but for me that is never quite enough.
guess I'll go over to the ND thread and look at that list again--it just dispirited me so much I didn't even want to post my comments about it.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 1 January 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Any Canadians know about Bocephus King? Joe McCombs burned me his 2005 CD, and it's fucking great, though it's as much blues and gospel and prog and Eurodisco as country (I guess the actual genre would be "singer-songwriter," except most ss's forget about having any music. Bocephus doesn't; he's got tracks that last 10 minutes, even instrumentals.)
Reissued debut Duhks album from, uh, 2002 or so is also quite entertaining by the way.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link
New Anthony Hamilton, though, despite his occasional country rep, is significantly less country than Lionel Richie not to mention a crashing bore, total "'70s soul" in quotes shtick, except Anthony has neither the voice nor the melodies to pull '70s soul off, Maybe not the lyrics either, though it's possible his delivery caused me to miss some. Not sure if his early stuff is better than this or not; Haikunym to thread, you've got explaining to do.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Rolling Country 2006 Thread
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan M in Nashville, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric Karmen, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link