RAW POWER is the only Stooges record that merits a 10/10.

I dunno, but we did the same chant in my kundalini yoga class.

Raw Power is the weakest Stooges album, but I still wouldn't kick it out of bed.

As the first Stooges album I owned was the Complete FunHouse sessions, that's one I now love.

Raw Power is great too.

The first one, I played once. Yeah,its got "Dog" and "We will fall" but some of the othertracks were only 'pretty good' rather than 'great' by comparison. Maybe I'll dig it out and love it some more. As I said, I just got through another entire playingof the sessions CDs, so who knows.

NO PROBLEM SENOR!

But "I Got A Right" (I think recorded after RP) rates an 11!

I was waiting for that

Now there's a man after my own heart. There's no way the debut gets a 5, tell your brother in law to go fuck himself.

http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,2557933,00.html

. Rubber Legs

2. Open Up And Bleed

3. Johanna

4. Cock In My Pocket

5. Head On

6. Cry For Me

7. Rich Bitch

8. Wet My Bed

9. I Got Nothing

10. Heavy Liquid / New Orleans

11. She Creatures Of The Hollywood Hills

(I'm not giving you shit, Scott. I realize that you had to do the five point scale.)

My take on Stooges mania

You'll never guess!

Go on!

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25511689-601,00.html

Did you guess?

Wonder how Williamson is holding up? His involvement makes this a bit more interesting.

It's so wrong and so right. Exit Ron Asheton, enter James Williamson. Of course. I'd buy tix.

I hope they also play all those tracks on Open Up & Bleed because they RULE

HEAVY LIQUID

from www.atpfestival.com

We are delighted to announce two special shows on the 5th anniversary of Don’t Look Back and as part of our 10 years of ATP celebrations. It is a great honour to present Iggy and the Stooges performing Raw Power in its entirety at the Hammersmith Apollo on May 2 and May 3 2010.

Hammersmith Apollo was the venue that kicked off the first DLB five years ago with The Stooges performing Fun House, described by some as the best gig in London in many years and also by Iggy Pop himself as one of the top three gigs of his life.

Raw Power is one the best records ever made with gems like Gimme Danger and Search And Destroy so it doesn’t get much better than this, and tickets details will be revealed next week.

Also note that in the coming weeks we will be announcing two very special support acts both performing LPs as part of these two shows.

Stay tuned for details........

- Barry Hogan

I'm about as excited about the umpteenth million Rolling Stones tour as I am about this.

I'd be much more interested to see them do the "Open up and Bleed" material. There are some great songs buried in there.

"[band] performing [name of album] in its entirety" can suk my balls at this point

Yeah I don't even get it for a new album. I don't want to hear an album replayed track 1 to 10 or whatever live. How fucking by the numbers can you get?

they could play that Schoolhouse Rock song about numbers

I'm sure there aren't all that many reading this who really don't have some reformed band/album performance combo in the back of their mind that would induce them to swallow their pride and lay out the cash for a ticket. (Yeah, yeah, you only care about this week's top forty. Right. Sure.)

i've done it, but i will not do it again.

after the ultra goodness of Dino Jr, Sleep, Jesus Lizard reformations i no longer have any qualms about any sort of reformation.

yeah seeing the stooges makes it kinda difficult to concentrate on how the rhetoric of their setlist choices could be geared differently. it is seeing the stooges.

"[band] performing [name of album] in its entirety" can suk my balls at this point

mine too with the added stipulation that it does so after I've been for a five mile run in high humidity

I mean there're bands who since I'm probably never going to see them anyway if they came out and said "we're doing the one album everybody likes best" I'd go see 'em, ok fine, but that doesn't make "performing this album in its entirety" any less played-out & boring, and I am not one of those "I only listen to what's current" dudes, I just think the "performing such-and-such an album in its entirety" conceit is exactly the sort of false gravitas that I'm not interested in when it comes to a live show

I'd love to see a Stooges reunion for the same reason I paid to go see the Throbbing Gristle reunion ...but, the idea of Raw Power in its entirety doesn't excite me that much, even though there are a lot of good songs on it, there are also really good songs on other albums.

On sale now, supported by Suicide performing their first lp and another support to be confirmed
http://www.atpfestival.com/Events/StoogesRawPower/Tickets.php

agree. better/tighter songwriting. more focus. better guitars.

Just about any band is going to look foolish going on first here, but I'm dying to see what kind pathetically awful 'special guests' they tack onto the end of a Stooges/Suicide bill.

Is there an utterly hopeless band out there, who just happen to feature the children or lover of a major record label exec? Helps if they've had a lot of glossy coverage in non-music sections of the press.

Who is in the Stooges now, with Ron Asheton passing away?

Is James Williamson playing, since it's Raw Power?

yes.

I'd like to go to this, but this is a really bad time for tickets to go on sale. Mind you pretty much all of 2009 has been a bad time for tickets to go on sale tbh. Oh well.

Spiritualised seem to be in with the ATP crowd now, they seem like an obvious surprise guest that could conceivably justify an announcement.

Good guess. And wouldn't come up looking so foolish.

(Still have painful memories of seeing Suicide supported by top ZTT artistes Das Psch-Oh Rangers, though)

"THE ESS-ENTIAL ART OF oh is our time up? bye..."

Long, relaxed and entertaining interviews with Iggy and Williamson here:

http://metrotimes.com/music/story.asp?id=14429

Seems like they will be giving the unrecorded material a good work out.

There is also a deluxe version of Raw Power due next April from Sony Legacy, featuring David Bowie's original mix (which, interestingly, has been out of print since Iggy's last remix in the 1990s), as well as a book (executive producer Matheu says he envisions something like the recent Miles Davis Kind of Blue set) and a board tape of an October 1973 show from an Atlanta club.

They toured with both James Williamson AND Ron Asheton together!? I did not know that.

http://www.easyaction.co.uk/detail.php?catno=EARS023

Never realised that either. Bet those shows are great. Pity the sound quality is poor, or I'd be tempted

There is also a deluxe version of Raw Power due next April from Sony Legacy, featuring David Bowie's original mix (which, interestingly, has been out of print since Iggy's last remix in the 1990s)

Good news. Iggy ruined that album with his "all knobs to the max" mix.

and a board tape of an October 1973 show from an Atlanta club

This sounds interesting.

This is an argument beaten to death on at least a couple of other threads, but I actually like Iggy's knob to the max mix, and if you don't, you know where you can stick it.

Deep inside?

Oh yeah!

Don't tell me where to stick Iggy's maxxed out knob.

OK, I won't. But, deep inside, you know where it belongs.

"Penetration"

From a couple of months back:

"This 2CD Legacy Edition will feature the original '73 album mix on disc 1, newly remastered by Sony engineer Mark Wilder for ultimate fidelity. The second disc will feature a previously unreleased 1973 live show in Atlanta - never even available on the bootleg market - recently unearthed in Iggy's private tape stash."

Legacy adds that the new edition will also be bolstered by some choice bonus tracks to be announced soon.

Well, that's nice. I hope they don't BRICKWALL LIMIT it.

Man thank god.

I need somebody

The best version of Raw Power was recorded by me in 1990 onto a TDK cassette with the levels a little too loud. For optimum audio performance, this recording should be played on one of those big yellow "sports" walkmans and heard through headphones held together with duct tape. Audiophiles are advised to wear an oversized army surplus jacket and a bad haircut while nervously smoking cigarettes outside the library of a small liberal arts college.

A+

excited to hear this

and great post by brio!

also i kinda like how the bowie mix sounds

Hellz yea. Hope they polish up stuff from bootlegs like Rubber Legs too.

They're gonna perform with ABBA, Genesis, Jimmy Cliff and The Hollies at the R&R Hall of Fame induction ceremony, March 15, 2010 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City and will air live on Fuse, Madison Square Garden’s national music television network. I wonder, how does one get to see that in person? Do we have a mole who will report back? Chuck?

raw power outtakes >>>>>>> raw power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIJzOPBIVvw

totally. "tight pants" is way better than "shake appeal".

^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u66p4febRoI

raw power outtakes and pre-raw power demos > raw power

― eman (eman), Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:15 AM

lol ;)

this is still cool tho, unreleased live show and non-iggy mix

From the linked press release:

...the Bowie mix always had a weird combination of murk and tinnyness to it...

Exactly! I own Ig's remix and have listened to it, like, 1 1/2 times. It just sounds wrong.

Well, if you 'grew up' with the Bowie mix, I can see why.

I didn't, and I enjoyed the IgMix (if ever an album needed to be supercondensed/whatever, it's that one), and eventually got a Bowiemix CD (they have never been pricey on ebay), thought it.. alright actually.

Wouldn't pick one over the other.

What reaction did people have to the 'non-closet' mix of the Velvet Underground album?

non-closet is better imo ... don't think it's quite as radical as the iggy raw power mix tho, aside from having a different take of "some kinda love" ...

Already have RP on LP and CD, both mixes, so I'd only get this if the live CD makes it worthwhile.

That said, I still haven't plucked up the courage/cash to buy this one: http://www.easyaction.co.uk/detail.php?catno=EARS023

Well, I "grew up" with the Bowie Raw Power in as much as I though most of it sounded shit the first time I heard it in 1983, and rarely listened to after that. Rediscovered the songs through awful live bootlegs - which still sounded better than Bowie's version- and I reach for the Iggy mix if I want to hear it now.

But, in the end, it's a matter of taste.

so this live show they're offering -- it hasn't been bootlegged before? Or is it old news to Stogges fanatics?

I've never heard about a possible soundboard recording from that October 1973 show in Atlanta, color me hella excited.

V interested to hear Asheton and Williamson on dual guitars.

That's on that Easy Action box set - it's great, but the sound is very very average. You do tend to get used to mediocre quality after about half a song of these audience recordings, but it's still hard work.

so wait, who's playing bass on these shows?

mike watt?

Who? Watt? Third base!

oh i see it's this jimmy recca dude

pseudonym for mike watt i presume

I just want to hear a decent recording of the song Heavy Liquid. There isn't even one on the box set that's named after it.

A decent recording, that is.

Yep, Mike Watt. Scroll down:

http://www.hootpage.com/

The shows were recorded in 71.

was just kiddin' about watt -- i didn't even know there *was* a lineup with asheton and williamson both playing guitar.

and that sounds cool!

I could never get on with the bowie mix. it's just so gutless and flimsy - so much so that I mistakenly considered raw power to be a pretty poor album for a long time.

once I heard the maxed out iggy version it all made a lot more sense...

(would still put it second to fun house though)

Both mixes are/were just different shades of bad: The exact midpoint (midrange) between Exile on Main Street and White Light/White Heat. I really don't think I'm gonna pay money to acquire this a third time

Iggy mix is a digitally distorted abortion. Get the 180g RAW POWER from Sundazed and crank it. The best it will ever sound.

hmm didn't know sundazed had done that...is that a reissue of the bowie mix?

ian zamboni, if yr who i think you are, I think I recently got a vinyl Raw Power rip from your blog ... thanks!

shit i just checked on sundazed looks like that is out of print...they are selling a test pressing for $150 haha

bowie mix is all about the vocal performances

Zamboni's blog RULES. If that is indeed him.

I don't even think you can technically press the Iggy mix on vinyl.

this is the best record of all time

why didnt they release the original rough mixes of RP that you can get on (bad quality) bootleg? seems like a missed opportunity/fan fleecing opp.

That'll be the brand-new deluxe version for 2011 - the fan fleecing with this record is ridiculous. I'd rather get fleeced by a good 1 or 2-disc distillation of that Funhouse box.

I've got that^
http://www.discogs.com/Stooges-Declaration-Of-War-The-Best-Of-The-Funhouse-Sessions/release/2082001

It is cool, but I listen to OG Funhouse way more.

That's disc 2 of the Funhouse CD isn't it?

I don't know, I've never really sat down with the Funhouse box.

Oh I see what you mean, that deluxe Funhouse reissue that came out a couple of years ago. Yeah, I think it might be.

No, the 2nd disk of the 2cd Funhouse has some of the same takes, but not all of them (e.g. "Dirt [Take 1]" vs. "Dirt [Take 4]").

ah

The 2CD First Album is one of those where you can swap out the 'short' versions for the new 'long' versions, and it's not wrong!

Maybe a moot point in the interweb/reunion era, but do you think the Stooges' mystique has been destroyed by all this stuff? There was something kind of perfect about their initial 3-album run as it stood, as flawed as it was.

Dunno, i think their 'mystique' would have become more and more forgotten about.

At least those guys are/were alive for long enough.

The Weirdness had the potential to destroy more of their mystique than reissues and remasters of the good stuff, but everyone seems to forgivingly sweep it under the carpet.

Yeah, I think the Stooges are one of those bands whose mystique is pretty strong, regardless of what reunion stuff goes on (tho I've heard the reunion shows are great). Like Big Star -- remember how they put out a new album a few years back? Everyone forgot about that pretty fast.

Yeah, all true - just wondering if part of what made The Stooges special was that there wasn't all that much to see or hear of 'em. Just in a pure supply and demand sense, scarcity = value. Don't know if it makes sense, just something I've been thinking about in a general sense about the easy access to everything now. I know it's an old discussion, just on my mind right now.

There's been masses of Stooges bootlegs for years though.

I think its got something to do with them being SO DAMN GOOD

http://www.iggyandthestoogesmusic.com/
Super deluxe version looking a little ridic:
The long out-of-print original David Bowie mix of the album.
“Georgia Peaches,” an 8-song, one-hour performance at Atlanta’s notorious rock club Richards in October 1973
A full disc of Rarities, Outtakes, & Alternates from the Raw Power Era.
48 page softcover book with essays by Henry Rollins, Brian J. Bowe and Kris Needs + testimonials by Tom Morello, Lou Reed, Cheetah Chrome, Jim Reid, Perry Farrell, Hugo Burnham and more.
A TON of previously unseen Raw Power-era shots.
5 exquisite 5x7-inch prints, suitable for framing.
Japanese pic-sleeve 45 single repro: “Raw Power b/w “Search And Destroy”
The “Making of Raw Power” documentary by Morgan Neville featuring NEW interviews with Iggy Pop, James Williamson, Scott Asheton, Mike Watt, Johnny Marr, and Henry Rollins; plus live performance footage of James Williamson’s first reunion gig with Iggy and the Stooges – after 35 years! – shot at Festival Planeta Terra, São Paulo, Brazil, November 2009.

out April 27

the first time i heard the song "shake appeal" in my friend's car i thought he was saying

"shaaaaaggy beatle"

I want the album, the outtakes and the live stuff; I don't want any of that other bullshit (book, photos, blah blah blah).

yeah no kidding, i'm assuming they're gonna be selling that for at least $60 ... I just want the tunes, really ...

I like a lotta photos from back then

i want a big paper pop-up of iggy in his prime in the gatefold

that squirts blood each time you open it

i would like a pair of the silver pants bundled with my copy

If Sony fucks this up like they've fucked up the last two big Miles deluxe editions, I'm done with them forever.

thread title 10/10

Something like that Bob Dylan 3CD plus book that retailed at £120, and we all bought from Fopp for £30, eventually?

i only want the outtakes and the live gig. i have the bowie mix on cd and LP.

How does the LP sound compared to the CD? Any difference?

Blimey, Spotify has the whole "Funhouse" sessions box!

"I like a lotta photos from back then"

did you get that nice book that came out a while back? coffee-table thing. very nice. i looked at it in the bookstore, but didn't splurge.

That must be The Stooges: The Authorized and Illustrated Story that came out in October. Yeah I want that. If the Raw Power reissue is more than $30, it should include an Iggy replica rubber dildo too.

oh man, they're definitely charging more than $30 for the super deluxe edition ... but I'm assuming/hoping, there'll be a just plain deluxe version, too.

sounded great on vinyl on Lost tonight!

LOOOOL I should really know to stay off ALL the internet entirely while Lost is on.

I mean not a spoiler but

i hope it turns out iggy is the smoke monster ...
dude on the wire season two was listening to this album on tape iirc.

I'm looking forward to the induction ceremony. http://www.fuse.tv/ontv/shows/rock-hall-2010/ I had to upgrade my cable package so I could get FUSE HD, but luckily I got a deal that's actually $11 LESS than what I was paying for the next 6 months, woo hoo.

Raw Power super deluxe package, Apr 27, don't know price yet: http://www.legacyrecordings.com/news/iggy-stooges-raw-power

preorder, $60.

http://www.sonymusicdigital.com/iggy-and-the-stooges/pages/5458056

+ handling & shippping to Belgium = $124

:-/

there should be an iggy pop soundboard like the david lee roth one

^^^ and it should include all the stuff from the insurance ads ("Actually I was thinking of playing a little golf...")

I keep lookin' at it and I just don't want it. I don't even want the 2CD version with the live disc. I think there may be something wrong with me. I think I may have to turn in my rock critic card.

please tell me that isn't fake ring wear on the cd box.

i would buy a two cd live/unreleased thing if it came seperately. and if i saw it used somewhere for under ten dollars. i would pay 20 bucks for a double vinyl version of the same thing. maybe.

i definitely don't need a dvd of johnny marr and henry rollins talking about the stooges.

and the seven inch is kinda cool, i guess. i'd buy one for two bucks. maybe.

aha yeah is that cd box acid-washed

fake record ring wear. these things kinda bug me, but whatever.

no i'm with you on that

vinyl = creaky old nostalgia

(thats the part that bugs me)

definitely don't need a dvd of johnny marr and henry rollins talking about the stooges

Haha. Second! I'd like to see some tape of interviews with bands that played with the Stooges and recollections -- like Alvin Lee of Ten Years After or someone from a southern rock band.

Yeah but I bet the DVD will have some prime live footage from the 73-74 era. I do believe I need it. $60, not bad considering the $110 + fees + airfare + hotel + food + transport to show and back I'd have to spend to see them at All Tomorrow's Parties.

I don't think that there is any live footage at all from 73-74, though I'd love to be proved wrong.

there is sooooo little stooges video, it sucks. there will be a UK/european release of the special edition so people so people should probably wait rather than import.

I'm buying this thing, no doubt about it.

nice article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/mar/11/iggy-and-the-stooges-raw-power

http://prod-assets.mog.com/pictures/0000/0000/7473/images/1268769585.jpg
http://mog.com/fastnbulbous/blog/1841363

was listening to some of that new-ish easy action live 1971 box set this morning. sound quality is pretty dire, but it works for the scuzziness of the music.

along with the raw power reissue there's also this: http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/the-stooges-the-stooges-collectors-edition?CMPID=EMC-RH032310
$50! Does anyone actually buy these things?

comments are pretty lol
I dislike 7" x 7" packaging! It is too big and bulky to fit on a CD shelf. I like to keep all my CDs by an artist together in one place, but this kind of packaging prevents that. I've purchased 7" x 7" packaging by Rhino before and was very unhappy with it so I will not be buying this. If it were in a deluxe 5" packaging I would buy this in a heartbeat.

Does anyone actually buy these things?

Pretty sure it's the same dudes who go nuts for "Japanese mini-LP sleeve editions" of easy-to-find albums, dudes who seem like they got stuck on something and their collector-urges got perverted into buying the same albums over and over in ever more expensive editions.

you can hear the remastered bowie mix here:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/iggy-the-stooges-raw-power-legacy-edition,40017/

i like it. it's the classic bowie mix but you can hear the drums better.

this is basically what the '97 version should have been

Nearly pulled the trigger on the deluxe but $40 shipping and handling? That can fuck right off. Another prime example of why major labels deserve to die an ignoble death.

this leaked fwiw

i like it but then i love the digital clipping ridden abortion that was the iggy remix, so i'm probably not to be trusted

i have the remastered iggy remix -- basically they take it out of the red

p good

yes...

Maybe a 5/5 but not a 10/10. That's just crazy.

no

9.89/10 then, +/- 0.0.0003

kinda hard, nay impossible, to evaluate mastering from a lala.com stream IMO

Regarding price, I saw the 2CD Legacy Edition for $15.99, only slightly more than what most single discs go for. It's annoying that the Deluxe Edition doesn't have the complete set of sessions from that era. Anyone have a tracklisting of the bonus/rarities disc? How does "I Got A Right" and "I'm Sick Of You" sound? Anything included from their Rubber Legs bootleg?

2CD edition is on eMusic now...

only $14 at amazon ...

kinda hard, nay impossible, to evaluate mastering from a lala.com stream IMO

Snapshots of waveforms from the Legacy edition and the first cd edition of Raw Power:

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/04/16/raw-power-a-look-at-now-and-then/

Um, nope. Funhouse also does. Sometimes I even like it better than RP, depending on mood.

sometimes i like the debut better than either Raw Power or Funhouse! Depends. They're all great.

I'm on record that the first album is the best and it is a steady, if slow, decline after.

Shame they did a more dynamic version of the iggy's mix

@forks:
Disc Three: Rarities, Outtakes, & Alternates from the Raw Power Era Selections:
1. I'm Hungry (outtake from Raw Power sessions)
2. I Got A Right (outtake from an early aborted Raw Power session)
3. I'm Sick Of You (outtake from an early aborted Raw Power session)
4. Hey, Peter (outtake from Raw Power sessions)
5. Shake Appeal (alternate mix version from recently discovered alternate mix reels, "The Embassy Reels")
6. Death Trip (alternate mix version from recently discovered alternate mix reels, "The Embassy Reels")
7. Gimme Danger (alternate mix from the 1996 Iggy "violent" remixes)
8. Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell (alternate mix from the 1996 Iggy "violent" remixes).
(All tracks previously unreleased except tracks 3, 7, and 8.)

There was plenty of room on that disc for remasters of other sessions from that era, like Rubber Legs, Open Up And Bleed, Johanna, Cock In My Pocket, Cry For Me, Rich Bitch, Wet My Bed, I Got Nothing, Heavy Liquid, She Creatures of the Hollywood Hills, Gimme Some Skin, Scene Of The Crime, Kill City, Sell Your Love, Beyond The Law, Consolation Prizes, No Sense Of Crime, Lucky Monkeys, Master Charge, Jesus Loves The Stooges. In an interview, Iggy hinted that they might revisit the cream of that material with new recordings. As long as it's done better than the last Stooges album, that might be cool.

I wonder if the new Legacy issue is an improvement on the excellent vinyl rip which tyler linked from his blog...

yeah that one sounds pretty nice ... i dunno, it might be time to accept that Raw Power is kind of a weird sounding record overall! still want to hear the live disc. i've been enjoying the Electric Factory shows that Easy Action put out ...

I don't know how I feel about the new remaster.

I grew up with the Iggy remix, and I like the way it kind of makes your ears bleed.

I wonder if the new Legacy issue is an improvement on the excellent vinyl rip which tyler linked from his blog...

― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:33 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

I have both the vinyl and the new Legacy reissue, and they mostly sound the same except the new master makes a few things stand out better, such as the drums on "Gimme Danger".

xpost

There's something to be said for that. My experience was similar with the original vinyl on a cheap stereo. If you turned that up in your bedroom to suitable volumne, your ears didn't bleed but the effect was the same. So when you're young and hear something with that audacity and impact, it forms an
inderadicable structure.

Sonic quality aside, the way they put the CDs into the gatefold black thingy in the deluxe edition = vv fiddly to get them out. :-/

omg, that live disc. <3 <3 <3

I've got tons of boots (all of the Bomp ones, the Heavy Liquid box, etc) but this is by far the best sounding recording of their 1973 live shambolic genius, warts & all (e.g. guitar not plugged in during Raw Power?).

yeah the live is fantastic, worth buying just for that.
8 days until they play Raw Power in london two nights in a row :-)

I'm such a sucker for the Stooges, I had to get this. This is now the 3rd copy of this album I own. I also have an 80s vinyl edition and Iggy's terrible mix. Just listening to the album, looking forward to the live disc, the main reason (excuse) for buying this.

Stan, can you say anything more about the Heavy Liquid box? (without wanting to derail thread). I've been tempted several times, but keep holding back. I have the Rubber Legs vinyl LP from way back and a late 90s 2-disc comp called Head On. Do I really need any more of that stuff?

You've got the main bulk of the rehearsal songs with those two (the first three discs on Heavy Liquid (and the BOMP rehearsal albums) contain different takes of the same tracks) and with the 2nd disc of the Raw Power deluxe edition you're going to have a better sounding show than the ones you can find on the last three Heavy Liquid discs (and the live BOMP albums), so no, you don't need the Heavy Liquid box.

However, if you suddenly discover that the two studio and one live versions of (insert any Stooges song here) you know are all brilliant in their own way and you find you can't pick your favourite of those three, you're lost and you'll need to acquire all of the alternative takes and horrible audience recordings to not miss any other versions. In that case, yes, you need the Heavy Liquid box.

(sorry) :-)

Cheers - I now know that I'm covered!

I'm on to the live disc now, and it's fantastic. I only have the Metallic 2xKO double disc, and was always disappointed with the guitar-less sound. This is great

The DVD's not too bad. Pretty interesting stories about the making of and the struggle with MainMain. Iggy even gets a little teary-eyed at the end about how the album and band finally got recognition after all these years.

Gotta say, now that I have both versions, I prefer the Iggy mix.

I wonder what would have happened if they'd took the master tapes and had a current producer make a totally new mix alltogether. Don't know if the ultimate mix is possible though. It's like Rock Action says on the dvd, the album is bigger than both these mixes.

I first heard the Iggy mix around the time I was was getting into High Rise/Mainliner/etc, so it always sounded pretty great to me.

omg, that live disc. <3 <3 <3

I've got tons of boots (all of the Bomp ones, the Heavy Liquid box, etc) but this is by far the best sounding recording of their 1973 live shambolic genius, warts & all (e.g. guitar not plugged in during Raw Power?).
― StanM, Saturday, 24 April 2010 13:14 (2 days ago)

Yeah, there's definitely something wrong with the guitar during the first couple of tracks -- a faulty cable or something. It does give us a nice insight into Ron's bass skills, though, which I'm enjoying. A great disc.

I've always had difficulties liking Scott Thurston's bar-room boogie piano, mind....

OK, I guess I'm a bit out of the loop here. Clearly I have some catching up to do!

I was aware of three RP's: 1. The original mix, broadcast on the radio prior to the LP release. 2. The Bowie mix ultimately released, and 3. Iggy's re-mix. I gather that there is a new one. This is a momentous event!

That WABX radio thing wasn't a complete mix yet. This new one is a remaster of the Bowie mix (that includes two tracks mixed by Iggy, like the original release). Or something.

London show last night was amazing. setlist below. sounds silly but it was so amazing that it didn't feel like much could have changed quality/attitude wise between their 70s performances and now, other than the fact that they look different and nowadays people like them. Can't wait for the second show tonight. Also Suicide were mindnumbing, mindblowing, hilarious and pissed off and a great great support.

1. Raw Power 4:30 Min.
2. Search And Destroy 3:26 Min.
3. Gimme Danger 4:27 Min.
4. Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell 4:53 Min.
5. Shake Appeal 4:50 Min.
6. I Need Somebody 3:48 Min.
7. Penetration 3:42 Min.
8. Death Trip 4:22 Min.
9. Cock In My Pocket 3:15 Min.
10. I Got A Right 3:14 Min.
11. I Wanna Be Your Dog 5:09 Min.
12. Nineteen Seventy 4:11 Min.
13. L.A. Blues 1:12 Min.
14. Night Theme 1:34 Min.
15. Beyond The Law 3:53 Min.
16. Open Up And Bleed 10:31 Min.
17. Fun House 5:40 Min.
18. Kill City 4:40 Min.
19. Johanna 4:16 Min.

That's an awesome setlist (veryvery short L.A. Blues though)

maybe thats a typo, i copied and pasted. i dont remember it being that short but then it was all a bit of a blur

That really is a dream set. I want to believe. I wish they'd play a dive bar in my town.

If memory serves, I think the radio broadcast of RP was referred to as 'un-mixed' or words to that effect. However, I think it was the mix Iggy wanted to use & thought was going to be used, so it may only be 'un-mixed' in hindsight. I think I have a boot tape of that sucker someplace...

Tix officially on sale at 11:00 AM tomorrow for Aragon show in Chicago, Aug 29. Get 'em here now presale - https://www.etix.com/ticket/servlet/onlineSale?action=selectPerformance&performance_id=1254977&cobrand=jamusa (pword: yourdog). $47.25+8.25+2.75=$58.25, plus another $3 purchase fee. But what the hey, it's the MFin' STOOGES, and I don't have to fly to New York to see them at a goddam COUNTRY CLUB! Woo hoo!

I'm hearing this album tonight for the first time in my life. I knew 'Seek and Destroy' and 'Shake Appeal'.

This record is so good. Now I feel full of life and nowhere to go to but bed.

Bed is the last place I'd go after hearing Raw Power unless I had someone/thing to fuck.

That's my point... now I feel crushed and lonely but full of life. I'll keep on listening for another hour and hump my pillow later.

This revive is so sad but true.

The show was cathartic. Iggy went into the audience numerous times, allowing plenty of people had the opportunity to dry-hump his leathery hide. Alas I didn't partake, as it was over 100 degrees in the Riviera that night, and many fat, 40-60+ year-old men decided to take off their shirts and give everyone around them sweaty-greasy-backhair brillo-pad-facial-scrubs. I maintained a safe 8 feet or so from the edge of the mosh pit.

The show was moved from 4,500 capacity Aragon to 2,500 Riviera, because they couldn't sell enough tickets. Iggy. And. The. Stooges. Could. Not. Sell. Enough. Tickets. We're all fucking doomed.

well lots of his fans overdosed within the last 20 years