Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak 2006 Thread

Hahahah, that's one of the best/funniest descriptions I've read of that approach ever.

Hahahahahahaha! I love you.

It's the first Terrastock I'm going to with a sense of comfortable familiarity instead of expected major surprises. But there are a few new bands there I'm going to enjoy checking out, a lot of the returning folks are always great performers, I'm going to meet the legendary Jon and Ian on THEIR HOME TURF and it'll be a chance to visit Boston again as well and see Dan and the crew there. Besides, you're sorta there too! Come over for a visit.

BARDO POND.

and you should go so we can drink a beer. together.

Disc 1: irr.app.ext – Fly Away and Then What? (4:12) • Damon and Naomi – A Song For You (4:09) • John Contreras – Brian (3:48) • Mirror – Forgotten Language of Light (4:58) • Fursaxa – In Lieu Of (2:33) • Baby Dee – When You Found Me (4:04) • Howie B – Yesterday I Was a Cow (4:24) • Tom Recchion – Sea World (3:09) • Matmos – A Song for the Appeal (3:39) • Blue Eyed Black – Sweet Shadow Heart (2:45) • Eric Lanzilotta – An Exploration of a Spacious Yet Enclosed Domain (excerpt) (7:04) • Little Annie – Freddy and Me (4:19) • Colin Potter – It’s Coming (5:06) • Keiji Haino – fleeing panic-stricken shriveled equal temperament (6:04) • Allen Ginsberg – On Another’s Sorrow (4:04) • Devendra Banhart – A Sight to Behold (3:02) • David Surkamp – With Out Borders (4:52)

Disc 2: Jarboe – Mantra (7:10) • L – The First Flower People (6:51) • Richard Buckner – Do You Want to Go Somewhere (2:42) • Cyclobe – Indulge Yourselves With Our Delicious Monster (3:30) • Six Organs of Admittance – You Will Be the Sun (2:46) • Dolly Collins – Poor Sally Sits a Weeping (1:53) • William Basinski – Because (2:43) • Edward Ka-Spel – Sticks & Stones (version) (6:49) • Larsen – Il Sogno Di Momi (4:10) • Vashti Bunyan – The Same But Different (3:20) • Angels of Light – Song For My Father (3:43) • Thighpaulsandra – Star Malloy (6:11) • Suishou no Fune– In the Clouds (4:06) • Pantaleimon – Change My World (Alternative Mix) (5:12) • Aube – Movement (5:03) • Mr Durt – Denial (5:33) • Michael Yonkers – Somebody (3:20)

Disc 3: Bevis Frond – Someone Always Talks (2:40) • Sarah Hallman – Snowballin’ (3:04) • Faun Fables – The Transit Rider (4:21) • Luke Doucet – Unbelievable (3:39) • Jad Fair – Right on the Line (2:17) • Unveiled – Endless (3:19) • Antony – Hole In My Soul (6:38) • Charlemagne Palestine – Espoir Guerison (8:26) • Alex Neilson & Richard Youngs – House of Constant Song (3:42) • Anomoanon – Hit the Road (4:00) • James William Hindle – Back Home Again (3:52) • Isobel Campbell – The Beat Goes On (3:04) • The Bricoleur – Prah Pip Ta (5:01) • Sorrow – Long Dark Shadow (4:32) • Teenage Fanclub – I Need Direction (Alternative Version) (3:40) • Mary 5E – Therapy (4:59) • Sundial – Crazy Horses (2:56)

Disc 4: Jeremy Reed – Helioqabalus (1:54) • NQ Arbuckle – Huntsville Affair (5:06) • Shannon Lyon – No Thing (1:40) • The Hafler Trio – The Work of Washing (5:04) • Marissa Nadler – Judgement Day (4:33) • Max Richter – Flowers for Yulia (6:29) • Bill Fay – It’s the Small Things Now (2:52) • Bonnie ‘Prince’ Billy – Song for Doctors Without Borders (3:17) • Lynn Jackson – Waiting for the Sky to Fall (4:32) • Nurse With Wound – Ubu Noir (3:59) • Clodagh Simonds – The Glacial Lake (3:48) • Shirley Collins – Come My Love (2:49) • 7 Year Rabbit Cycle – Pirates (3:47) • John Terrill – Stoney Mansion (3:39) • Brett Smiley – Our Lady of the Barren Tree (3:38) • Linda Perhacs – Parallelograms (4:35) • Current 93 – Sunset (3:34) • Pearls Before Swine – Our Lady (3:11) • Thurston Moore – Sex Addiction (5:17)

Disc 5: Marc Almond - Our Love My Love (2:46) • Simon Finn – Crow Flies (2:01) • Stephanie Volkmar – The Gate of Polished Horn (3:23) • Small Creatures – City of Dreams (3:54) • Thee Majesty – Thee Seeding Ship (4:42) • Jim O'Rourke – Naoru (2:07) • Scott Stapleton – Shadow Makes a Snow Angel (2:43) • John Maslen – Everything Was Handed Down (3:44) • Jooel – Over the Sea (2:42) • Ghostigital – Bump (4:39) • Amy Curl – The Robin’s Tiny Throat (6:57) • srmeixner – Wild Spaces (excerpt) (4:02) • Mount Vernon Arts Lab – (0:47) • Coil – Broccoli (6:54) • Shock Headed Peters – Aaron’s Rod (Spared) (4:12) • Ghost – Daggma (8:28)

Meanwhile, today has been a good day for listening to the three Visitations albums one after another. (More Visitations-related mysteriousness, I learn from the most recent album, can be found here).

I've asked Nemo before if Visitations would be interested in an interview and he was discouraging, and they pretty much want to stay off the web otherwise, at least publically. Nothing wrong with that, but as you say, it's pretty hard to keep track of them as a result. Being on the Time-Lag mailing list is about the best way to know what's happening -- Nemo distributed the first CDR in 2004, did a 'formal' CDR release last year as well as the solo project from the dude in the band, then mentioned this new effort plus an upcoming live show in Portland in his last mailout. And that's about it!

(Alas, I've just discovered that said newest album, or at least my copy of it, was a blank or a bum burn, so I've dropped Nemo a line to see what can be done.)

who's heard it?

Of Montreal, "More Noir Blues and Tinnitus"

super numeri 'the babies'

from the new record 'the welcome table'.

also, the 5-disc jnana/durtro msf comp has shipped to people who pre-ordered.

I don't get the Visitations love. Someone explain the appeal please?

lately i've been way into james blackshaw...six and twelve string guitar stuff, really well done (if you're not sick to death of it already). new discs on digitalis and important. dude samples more from the robbie basho end of the almighty takoma axis, which is fine with me. no baldly intoned singing, though, which is either a plus or a minus, depending...

Yeah, should have said something about that earlier -- very good album.

At long last, the Visitations thread

So we may talk there in more detail. ;-)

Ordering this kind of stuff from the psych scene is sort of fun, how personal it is. Just sending an email to Nemo or whoever and asking what they have. I really wonder how big the crowd for this stuff is, since it seems most cdrs just have a run of around 100 copies. How many people outside of ILX hear this stuff?

devendra banhart's rejoicing in the hands
bevis frond (not his heavy stuff, but more his acoustical)

im actually not quite sure what else in my music library qualifies as this. i tend to enjoy more rock stuff, but any recommendations are welcome.

What do you folks make of Wooden Wand? I just bought an album and can't quite get into it. It's called Buck Dharma. Any other leads?

http://www.jnanarecords.com/images/discog/discog1963.jpg

Espers II is astonishing me, though. I was pretty firm in my conviction that they were a shit band, but this is perhaps the best new-new-new folk revival CD I have heard... it's wonderful.

MCD, please to read upthread. ;-) (I mean, I love you, but we've already been over it in detail...)

Of course. Just rob a few banks.

As for Wooden Wand, I found them way too dense and erratic at first too - I saw them in Baltimore a year ago and I wasn't into it. The book on them seems to be that the solo album and The Flood are the good ones, the rest are spotty or just plain awful. The new one is supposed to be a 'jazz' record though. I'd be wary of that just on principle.

Oooooops! How did I miss that, sorry. Though there's not really any discussion of it, just: "hey look at this tracklisting," "cool I want that." I wonder if it'll hold together as a piece. The thing is massive.

evidently my order for the 3 cd digitalis set has been cancelled...gonna have to see if there are any left anywhere

I bought that vinyl box set a few years back. Cost quite a lot but it was well worth it.

Got that coming in the mail along with the new LSD-March live cd on Archive.

Looking forward to both.

The new Om disc is pretty good. I never heard the first one - were they always this mellow?
-- pdf (newyorkisno...), March 15th, 2006.
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the first album is pretty mellow. kinda sleepy. not SLEEP-y, but, you know, like they just woke up from a nap. or they needed a nap. one or the other.
-- scott seward (skotro...), March 15th, 2006.
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Oxbow, *Love That's Last* - anybody heard this? I thought the press release called them a Neurisis type band, but to me they sound more like a shitty Jesus Lizard imiation, with stupid blues-demon-in-the-backwoods vocal shtick etc. (Maybe it was the other record that came in the same package that was supposed to be the Neurisis one though? That'd make more sense. Seemed to just have one 27 minute doom drone of a song on it, and the first several minutes hit me as quite pleasant before I took it off and took it home where it is now so I can't check the band's name at the moment.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 15th, 2006.
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Haven't heard it yet. I like the idea of Oxbow a lot (noisy Jesus-Lizard/Birthday-Party 80s-retread stomp-rock band fronted by large, drug-addled, angry seminaked black bodybuilder), but the album I heard, Evil Heat, wasn't that great. I hope this one is better. Plus, I hear it comes with a documentary on DVD, and that I wanna see - the singer apparently punches out audience members on a semi-regular basis.
-- pdf (newyorkisno...), March 15th, 2006.

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>(Maybe it was the other record that came in the same package that was supposed to be the Neurisis one though? That'd make more sense. Seemed to just have one 27 minute doom drone of a song on it, and the first several minutes hit me as quite pleasant before I took it off and took it home where it is now so I can't check the band's name at the moment.)<
It is Everylovely Lightningheart, and it is playing now (at home). "Cusp," an infinitely long single on Hydra Head. New age ambient sludge dirge drone, no song, no tune, no rocking, not especially memorable when it's not actually playing, but very useful for reading or sleeping too when life has become way too stressful. As is that new Om CD, which I played at work. As was their first one. As was the CD called *Namaste* by the Electronica En Espanol band also called Om that came my way in the mid '90s, before the metal guys.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.
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(And also the Everylovely Lightningheart single or album or whatever -- NOT an EP! -- isn't ALL sludge, there's lots of medieval classical lute or whatever space in there. So maybe not metal at all, really, except by association. Which is maybe part of why I like it.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.
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And then at the 23 minute mark it turns into old-school-industrial Test Dept quasi tribal 20-drummers=beating-on-oil-barrel imitation of Brazilian rain-forest drum rhythms, with lighthearted war-whooping and whooshing airplane taking off effects on top, quite tasty! (I think the airplane effects were back at the beginning too, but I'm not gonna check right now.) Anyway, music for the post-death metal-concert chill-out room, I suppose. Take it or leave it. Definitely a better extended track than that Acid Mothers Temple one I talked about above, probably more listenable than the Cathedral one too. (And actually it's at 33 minutes and counting now, so I understated its length in my Oxbow post.) (It's also getting way more boring and should've stopped several minutes ago, but I'm going to go with the Michael Daddino rule and I assume I'm supposed to be asleep by this point anyway.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.
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I like the Oxbow quite a bit but I don't think it's very metal. Reminded me of Nick Cave joining Swans and it didn't drone as much as I was led to believe it would. I was playing it in the store when a triumvirate of Asian dudes were here, all of whom expressed an interest in it (one of whom bought it!). They said it reminded them of SunnO))) so maybe I'll have to rethink it's metallic and/or droning quotient.
I haven't watched the accompanying DVD yet. Thet must be a hoot.

-- Brian O'Neill (e7jey4a0...), March 16th, 2006.
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I just requested one from the publicist. I am definitely looking forward to the DVD. Hope it's better than the one of GG Allin's final US tour that I got the other week.
-- pdf (newyorkisno...), March 16th, 2006.
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i got a 50 minute single track album a little while back, maybe that was the one you are talking about, chuck. that name doesn't ring a bell. it was kinda boring.
-- scott seward (skotro...), March 16th, 2006.
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nope, can't be - this one turns out to last a mere *40* minutes!

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.
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New Om CD (two songs, 15:55 and 17:27) is better than the Everylovely Lightningheart one, though, mainly because it's very cool how (and I really don't think this happens in much of this kind of modern ambient-or-whatever drone-metal -- correct me if I'm wrong -- the monotoned vocal becomes a pulsating rhythmic drone in itself. What I'm realizing right now is that who it reminds me of (more than Kraut rock, which probably is some blatant antecedents for this style that I'm not thinking of right now) is Underworld, in something like "Born Slippy." So the root of Om's sound is much techno as psychedelic rock (though obviously psychedelic rock is at techno's root in the first place). Though Oneida's long tracks have maybe done this too, I guess. Eventually I might even figure out what Om are droning about.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.
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(I guess that previous post refers mostly to the FIRST track on the Om disc "At Giza"; the second track is fine, too, but heavier, and strikes me as more traditional Hawkwind rocketship blastoff drone.) (And I wrote "rocketship" before I noticed it's called "Flight of the Eagle." So yeah, the intention here is soaring-through-the-sky rock.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 16th, 2006.

how do you navigate through all that rubbish? any tricks?

http://www.myspace.com/thefloatingworld

One woman band, Amanda Votta, whose key instrument is flute. I very much like the results. She's also started up another musical partnership with a friend called Secrets to the Sea:

http://www.myspace.com/secretstothesea

Meanwhile, you want your ambient drone, *here's* your ambient drone:

http://www.park.nl/park_cms/public/index.php?thisarticle=118

It's an endlessly looped rendition of Beethoven's 9th symphony, stretched out to 24 hours and pitch corrected. The result is absolutely beautiful. I've had it running since last night.

ahh, shit, and that's with neddal from the does. who are totally not getting the attention they deserve.

It's hitting a part now where the vocal parts make an appearance and it's so entrancing. This is a treasure and it's one that could only exist here and now -- I love the 21st century!

Should be interesting to hear.

If you don't have their other stuff, "500 Boy Piano" and "catonapotato" are pretty good, though the former is much more clean and the latter is more of a prototype album.

http://www.tableoftheelements.com/onesheet.php?cat=TOE-DVD-86&date=2005

DYSRHYTHMIA
http://www.relapse.com/ecards/dysrhythmiabap/

DYSRHYTHMIA featuring two new tracks off their upcoming new album Barries And Passages. The album will be released on May 2nd through Relapse Records

Brutal Psychedelic Instrumental Math-Rock !

Wouldn't it be nice if Table of the Elements released LaMonte Young's The Well Tuned Piano unedited on DVD?

I edited together 4 of the segments with the intent of making my own DVD, but when I got to adding the 5th my audio software kept crashing. Couldn't handle a ~3 GB song...

TS: Well-tuned Piano '81 vs. '87

People who put NNCK in the same box as WWVV are fools--

the new no neck is my favorite of theirs. it's still difficult in all the right ways, but it rawks!

Weird, of the Wooden Wand records I've heard, that solo singer-songwriter thing was by far the dullest. I hated it; their most recent album seems okay to me.

on a better note, this new richard bishop record is really cool.

crummy, are you not a 'lyrics' kinda guy? because I find WW solo to be pretty much all about the words. Didn't some of those guys used to post here or am I thinking of the IHM board?

Has anyone here heard of Hush Arbours?

and

http://www.invadashop.co.uk/www.invadashop.co.uk/catalogue/LAUNCH025LP-39.jpg
Rocket Recordings are proud to release the debut album by Mammatus; a new four piece space rock band from Santa Cruz, USA.
The album consists of four long tracks, the longest,Dragon of the Deep Part 2 clocks in at a staggering 25 minutes long. With an excess of fuzz and wah noise they manage to combine all the best bits of 70’s UK psyche rock with the sonic assault of early Monster Magnet as well as entering the realm of heavy drone sludge rock.
The sleeve of this debut album was crafted by the ‘artist of the moment’ Arik Roper who has made his fame for his work with the likes of High on Fire, Sleep, SunnO))), Comets on Fire and Arthur Magazine.
www.mammatus.org

Has anyone here heard of Hush Arbours?

lattitudes...the one recorded at southern. just came out, i think. it does have a picture of a hand with a nail trhough it on the insert, so maybe that's the one.

i can be a lyrics guy sometimes...i enjoyed the ww solo jawn, although i don't remember thinking the lyrics were super mind-blowing. the vengeance is mine track had some nice lines, though.

Here is an MP3 from their next album coming out in April, the one xhuxk was talking about a little higher here. Fuck it is awesome. I'm a little worried though that this is the first track, 15 minutes long, and there's only one other track - something like half an hour. I'm worried it may be more like Variations on a Theme than this amazing song here. xhuxk, can you tell me anything about it?

More Hawkwind than Underworld (but I think I say that up above.)

The Embryonnck album is nice. So is that new old live Mushroom album.

Ekkerhard Ehlers though I listened to maybe five times and remembered nothing on, in fact I kept forgeting it was playing, so I must not be very good. The "O Death" cover always tended to jump out at the end if I got that for, but more in an annoying way than a pleasant one. I guess it's supposed to be spooky, but I am not spooked by it.

And I also like this early '70s Brit folk reissue by Lazy Farmer on Sunbeam. But the Brit woman folkie reissue that came in the same package with it (sorry, don't have her name handy; press bio likened her to Joni M.) kept reminding too much of Mary Poppins for my taste.

And shit, in the next month we're getting the new Om and Boris. The Witch album, Black Sabbath-style sludge stoner metal with members of Feathers, is coming out soon too. It's about to be an awesome time for heavy, rocking psych.

x-post
Can are great!
Boris - Pink is the Southern Lord reissue of the inoxia lp/cd.
However theres 2 tour lps coming. The Thing That SOlomon Overlooked Volumes 2 & 3.
Sadly they're not playing Scotland(im so tempted to use that Father Jack quote!)

i'm pretty psyched for the new major stars record, which i think is out this week.

Maybe the phrase "stoner rock" should be reintroduced. Isn't that what so much of this music is anyway?

I like Qvaris a lot, but their best record is the Broken Circle cassette. Or Parallel Easters.

When is that Emryo / NnCK thing getting released? Who's putting it out?

The new Om record is decent, if you like Pink Floyd! Seriously though, it's really good. And the new Boris is FUCKING AMAAAAAAZING of course

This is my favorite post of the week, maybe the year...

re: Witch - If J Mascis hadn't picked up a guitar after 1988 I wouldn't have cared, but the Witch album is pretty good, aside from the obnoxious singer who torpedoes my total enjoyment of it. It's not gonna change anybody's life but there's a rich texture to the gtr sound that I dig (wish there was an instrumental version of the album).

Sabbath comparisons are apropos. Thinking that the guitarist invented that shambolic leadfinger fuzz style is giving him way too much credit. Listen to the way the rhythm section kicks in on "Soul of Fire" - it's aping "Symptom of the Universe" (among other BS tunes). End of the day though if I really want Mascis-involved sub-Sabbathoid kicks I'll go listen to that Upside Down Cross record, or better yet some Kilslug...

I hear Sabbath in Witch, too. That's not a lazy comparison, by any means. I also hear some Saint Vitus and Kyuss. Then again, when I hear Saint Vitus and Kyuss, I hear some Black Sabbath. It's impossible to overstate Sabbath's influence on stoner rock, sludge, etc. It's like saying that there exists power pop that isn't influenced by the Beatles.

i don't buy boris. too cheap of a gag, really.

and further xposting, or deeper, yeah scott's dead on with the Mono thing. i reviewed one of their records favorably, but i don't think i've played it since. the best bits were lodged deep into a journey that was neither tedious nor engaging. with as many other records to parade along, why bother heading down that road?

picked up a grouper record a few weeks ago and then forgot i had done. theres a nice little trip for you.

i need to hear some vtb, but i worry ill like it. then more money goes back outta my pocket...then again, thats how this capitalism thing runs along, right?

Tell me, should I invest in the Satwa record on Time-Lag? I listened to a few tracks from the now out of print LP version in a record store the other day, but was too poor at the time to shell $18 out for it. But jesus, that fake stereo, multi-mono sound combined with total summer marijuana haze instrumentation almost made me crap my pants.

Haha, go ahead, I earned it...

Ninjas are cool. And by cool I mean totally sweet.

their last record was actually really song oriented...up until then i would have agreed with you, but now i'm not so sure.

picked up a grouper record a few weeks ago and then forgot i had done. theres a nice little trip for you.

i like this record a lot...it's nice to hear something that leans on delay pedals and actually comes out with something nice sounding.

Tell me, should I invest in the Satwa record on Time-Lag?

yeah, you should. cop that and the lula cortes e ze ramalho (i just butchered the spelling there) disc paebiru. and then maybe that bootleg version of the flaviola record. good stuff all around.

This sentence is filled with jams I am unfamiliar with, please elaborate!

http://www.crionicmind.org/bindrune/pages/index_two.html

(i can't vouch for the sound samples that they have up. didn't listen to them. but the album is dreamy (and spooky) goodness. hypnotic stuff. or sleep-inducing. depending on your mood/disposition.)

no, im, personally, not saying that. i don't really want any of those bands to be truely improv and very much enjoy their songiness (and ww&vv state strongly that they write songs). that obviously excludes vtb, cause i don't know them

and my earlier jomf comment is based on thier recent show in bk more than any recording

xpst

"Hairy Queen":
s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?
id=3BXF79LSU9PVW16MH8X003EGUU

"Seeker":
s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?
id=0T4TLLJ14IOG31ZNN7HW01N6ZL

both from "The Five Hundred Boy Piano" CD on United Dairies

xpost - saw them once and it was beautiful

new Charalambides is pretty far removed from JS

In other news, samples from A Vintage Burden are up at: http://www.brainwashed.com/common/htdocs/discog/krank095.html

Sounds pretty great to me.

OK, George, Scott, whoever, I need your help on this one. This might be the *weirdest* cdbaby find I've come across. All their trappings (hair, song titles, lyrics, self descriptions on webpage, webpage design itself) suggest that these Californians called Savage want to play real true hair metal like rockers did back when rock was "fun", but their CD is so poorly recorded and apparently ineptly played (stunted depressive tempos, off key vocals, weird ass two-finger keyboard parts pretending to be *Who's Next,* guitar noise coming out of nofuckingwhere, drum parts that sound like some kid beating a cereal box with number two lead pencils) that they wind up sounding to me more like some insane Von Lmo style (or somebody-else style I can't place right now) accidental art-punk band or something. So, as of this minute, I can't tell whether they're completely great or completely horrible. This was supposed to be possible in music back in the era of the Godz (or maybe the Godz), but not now. The powerless acoustic power ballad "Mistake" (track 5), despite being sung as off key as everything else, seems otherwise "normal" enough that I think they're actually trying to pull this off and failing more miserably than anybody in very long time. I could be wrong, though. My favorite verse so far goes "You got me kickin' and screamin'/Nobody gets me hot like you/I need a cold shower/You rock my world like an avenue." Hey, it rhymes! Anyway, decide for yourself:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/savagerocksyou2

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 29th, 2006.

oops, Nevada, apparently, not California.

Producer: Nic Atomik.

If people think they also belong on the psych/drone/freak thread, feel free to cut and paste, or let me know and I'll do so myself.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 29th, 2006.

Ha-ha, xhuxk, on that first Savage tune, "Too Cool for School," the guy actually uses the line "I'm a cunning linguist." It sounds like a ring modulator or something is being used on the vocal to generate an offkey harmony part playing faintly in the background. Sounds like a drum machine, too, might be a one man band on that there first track.

-- George 'the Animal' Steele (georg...), March 29th, 2006.

(It just occured to me that I'm actually listening to a CD-R they sent, which I guess could conceivably be muffled in multiple-generation translation; if the songs on the cdbaby page are somewhat listenable, it *might* just mean I have a horrible recording of them, I dunno...)

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 29th, 2006.

Sounds like a vaguely grown-up Raunchy Young Lepers -- mp3s near the bottom o' the page!

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), March 29th, 2006.

I don't know -- could be a joke. The "live" cut "I Want to Hold You" -- is definitely not live, just the same studio tracks overlayed with crowd noise loop. Knock three dollars off the asking price and I'd say it has outsider music appeal. The poor recording could be because it's '85 and they're or he is doing it at home with Radio Shack equipment and sync'd cassette players. Sounds like some of the stuff I did when I was just starting out in its offness.

-- George 'the Animal' Steele (georg...), March 29th, 2006.

To be honest it has more in common with that old Electric Eels "Eyeball from Hell" than the stuff it purports to be emulating. "No more dirty tricks!/Find someone else to take your shit! Some coincidental Chrome in its character, too, as in Chrome from "Alien Soundtracks" and "Half Machine Lip Moves."

Now don't freak Chrome fans. I was a fan 'fore you were and even put 'em on the cover of my fanzine in grad school. Definitely "Dirty Tricks" has the same fuzzy tone of Chrome-tune.

-- George 'the Animal' Steele (georg...), March 29th, 2006.

Okay, Chrome = dronepyschfreak to me. I'm cuttin' and pastin' (and rhymin' and stealin').

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 29th, 2006.

so are mammatus the witch/black mountain fake-heavy jamzzz we'll all be discussing in six months? can't get their tunes to play on mysapes.

I've been raving about Landed for years, and their recent resurgence has made me a very, very happy man. Their track on this is oddly psychedelic, like Trad Gras Och Stenar played by high school metalheads. Also, bonus points for the title: "FUCK SEAT BELTS, FUCK RALPH NADER."

Milton and Lo = dreamy space pop jazz

So, back to Savage. The songs I think I like most on *Cold Blooded,* which is to say the most droningly Chrome-like ones, are "Chosen One," "Love and Torture," "Ugly Inside" (Savage at their most punk rock), "Fairy Tale," "Dirty Tricks" (Savage at their most Suicide, screaming and everything), and, despite its know-nothing xenophobia, "Nobody Rides For Free." Most unbearable songs are the first ballad, "Mistake," and the 9-11 song "True Colors" (the true colors, naturally, being red, white, and blue); the second ballad, "Could've Been," despite being over five minutes long, is slightly more defensible 'cause it's about the singer losing a girl who he met at a 7-11. (So there's a 9-11 song *and* a 7-11 song, how many albums can you say that about, huh?) Also, "I Wanna Hold You" seems to start out as an attempt to update "Behind Blue Eyes" by the Who ("no one knows what it's like...") And In general, I'm wondering whether there actually could be paralells between how Savage stumbled upon their sound and how bands like the Electric Eels (I'm totally stealing George's reference points here) stumbled on *their* punk sound by shooting for an earlier kind of glam-metal 30 years ago. Even if it's clear that Savage probably couldn't match the Eels' IQs. (PS: oddly, "Fairy Tale" and "Dirty Tricks" are not listed on the CD cover.)

i gotta hear this, especially for the air conditioning side. those dudes are great, and the (new) drummer from pissed jeans is now pulling double duty in that band. he hits the skins real nice.

they put out a great record called weakness in 2004 that i think got overlooked by a lot of folks who would have dug it because it was on a mostly hardcore/emo label called level-plane.

I'm going to listen to some more now. They may be a litte more sly than they let on. They did send you a copy at the Voice.

Doesn't sound them same but it has the same intense and rat-like petty rage of TKO on their extended demo, "In Your Face and Up Your Ass." They were an actual 70's-80's glam rock act from Seattle that played bars and fell in and out of pro contracts but the CD demo, packaged as a reissue a couple years back, was the most entertaining because it had them drunk and angry at basement parties, railing at the audience at summer picnic festivals after the sun had gone down and such. And while it was supposed to be metal performance it degenerates into sludge and rant with extended clubfooted jamming.

OTM. Air Conditioning are MODERN, CURRENT psych-rock unlike so many bands these days that are really just retro acts.

I can't find that A.C./Landed split. Is it even out yet? Is it already OOP? Hospital Productions says its "coming soon."

It's kick-ass waves of harsh, crunchy distortion (like Sightings); it's not that warm, stoner fuzz. But it IS a total stoner jam, if that makes any sense. Real jams with cool primal grooves that are powering all that noise as it plays with head making you think its all out noise one second then a total rock jam the next. It makes total sense that A.C. would do a split with Landed, whose 10" so may years ago is still one of the most intense records that I've ever experienced.

I'll report back on The Heads album later.

Space Needle - The Moray Eels Eats The Space Needle

more apt comparison than sightings would be gerogerigegege circa instruments disorder but with some sort of structure in mind. i saw them opening for caroliner without knowing who they were and they were just ungodly fucking loud and made all of the bethlehem college kids fidgety.

Oh, I'm all for that.

Dude, enough with that stale noise talk about violence and blood. A.C. are totally psychedelic (and I don't mean flowers and beads). Their jams incessantly warp from order to chaos and back. That's classic psychedelia: a violent, radical shift in perception like Sightings, Mainliner, Dead C, etc.

Libby Adams is OTM when saying: Before you are aware of it the noise coalesces in the most intense ROCKING groove a la Mainliner

That's classic psychedelia: a violent, radical shift in perception like Sightings, Mainliner, Dead C, etc.

you're funny!

i think the dead c & mainliner are definitely psychedelic groups.
i think air conditioning is too, but, you know, further on the noise end of the spectrum than Landed (as far as the split is concerned.)

Well, I tend to use "psychedelic" as a property of the music not as a style. Any kind of music can have psychedelic properties: pop, rock, punk, etc. That's where "classic psychedelia" and your "classic hardcore punk" are different (and Sightings and A.C., in my opinion, are anything but). I'm not saying Air Conditioning sound like Blue Cheer or Ummagumma or After Bathing At Baxter's or Donovan. I'm just saying their music is loaded with psychedelic qualities and the two extended jams on the group's Weakness disc "baby with a graphite soft spot/smooth branches" and "welcome to seaworld/championship rings" are great experiences for the headphones with those wild, processed vocals and layers of screaming distortion that sometimes move with the groove and sometimes break loose. It all just fucks with my perception and does seem to be modern psych, modern psych noise-rock, etc utlizing tricks from Japanese noise and power electronics.

Now having said that, I picked-up some A.C. picture disc single at Amoeba yesterday, and it is fairly different from Weakness. It definitely is channeling more brutal, power violence noise vibes and it doesn't seem to have that twisted thud 'n' drone of their full length.

Disc 1 has a great Damon and Naomi song, an unusually song-like Irr. App. Ext track, a really beautiful violin piece from someone named John Contreras, a horrible sub-Flying Saucer Attack track by Fursaxa that confirms my decision to ignore them, a really great Tom Recchion song (but has he ever made a bad track?), a very nice long minimal electronics piece from ex-Anomalous Records dude Eric Lanzillotta, and a really beautiful Keiji Haino track.

Disc 2 highlights are Jarboe, Six Organs, Ka-Spel, and Vashti. Ends with two of the most wildcard tracks, a thumping electronic rhythm instrumental and heavy rock from Michael Yonkers. Weird, but there's even more straight rock action on disc 3 with Teenage Fanclub of all people.

More cool disc 3 stuff by the Bevis Frond (always a favorite), a REALLY good Faun Fables track, and a nice Charlemagne Palestine piece that has a lot more varied sounds in it than other stuff I've heard by him. An Antony song I didn't like at all :(

Oh yeah, Devendra's "Sight To Behold" is a different version for those who care.

I have already gotten much more than 25 bucks of good music out of this, and 100% of the profits go to DWB/MSF. Recommended.

I still haven't gotten mine, I'm beginning to wonder here! Have to drop them a line.

I'm biased towards Visitations, obviously, so grain of salt there if you prefer. I really liked Growing at ArthurFest. (Now if you and Maria are going to be over in Boston here in a couple of weeks I can burn ya some stuff, you realize. ;-) )

I say Growing. I've never heard Visitations though. You know what I like Ned, am i missing out?

Sightings = microhouse is OTM. I dig all their records (I am bias.) But I think Absolutes would be a great initiation record. It still has the grit of early Sightings but i sees the group experimenting with minimal techno-informed rhythmic schemes. Then again, the track "I Fell Like Porsche" off of Michian Haters is a total jammer.

With Landed, find this fuckin record!!!!!!!!: the Why I Live/Hit the Land 10" (Vermiform #34). Holy shit, this is intense music. I feel that it's the group's best moment to date. Well actually, the single on Load (with Ben suckin' his own schlonger) is pretty top shelf, too. But, I wasn't so into th full-length. It's didn't have the choked-up, suffocation tribal noise groove of the 10". And now I put the record on!

I've never heard Visitations, but after al the talk here, I'm going to check 'em out.

(Visitations rule)

do check out those Taiga Remains CD-Rs from the last update though. good, good stuff.

I picked-up the new James Ferraro 7" at Aquarius. The cover sports a dolphin and a swastika(?!?) It's a gorgeous, sweet vocal-driven meditation. The dude has that alchemical touch like the Dead C where a collection of lo-fi sounds are fused into something new and kind of otherworldly.

I'm also listening non-stop to Double Leopards' Half Maen. I know this is old, but damn, I just can't get enought of it.

word to air conditioning being modern psych upthread. i'd like to hear that no fun boot.

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/lineups.php?FestID=1194

Much to my delight, I also not only found Nick Castro's first solo album but one of his out of print CDRs when he was part of the Children of Gauhd. Murky, but enjoyable. Regrettably I just missed his tour with In Gowan Ring.

I'm listening to this now ... "Joy Shapes" is so shimmery, a great album to get lost in. As for "A Vintage Burden", why do I feel that I'm hearing a compilation of Verve demos from 1992? For a few moments during the guitar solo on "Two Birds", I thought I was listening to "Comfortably Numb". Then again, I'm probably being a bit too hard on this album because I've been listening to Kristin Hersh's "The Grotto" and Amon Duul's "Para Disewurts Duul" a hell of a lot during the past few days and I might be burned out on records that sound like this.

Anybody heard that Dialling In CDr on Celebrate Psi Phenomenon? I was a little underwhelmed by the Grouper CD, but thought maybe this was what I was really after...

-- m.c. (clikatow...), April 6th, 2006 1:12 PM.

Seconded. Shame about that whole YSI thing...

This is a bad thing?

could somebody give me some tips on Religious Knives, what kind of music do they make and whats worth the cash?

and The Alps, i read the review on the FD site, was totally intrigued, guess i should pick that up

new Charalambides? Verve demos? uh...

The In Your Head cassette on Rampart.... c'est bien.

better than all of the above is the Black Quarter - Sodomy ESP CS, which is Maya solo. one long piece over the C-20, bit like a more dynamic and pissed off Grouper.

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Anyway, quick Foxy D roundup -- the Alps was quite good, the Kheta Hotem was enjoyably meditative (to the point where I drifted off -- a compliment, I assure you), the Vluba was a bit cryptic for late night listening but not so bad, and Wailing Bones Vol. 3 is a winner. To the point where I now happily direct you to three of the featured bands via myspace:

Seht

Apple Snails

...and of course Brothers of the Occult Sisterhood, who we all know by now. ;-)

Ben Reynolds Earth and Space Magics deserves a mention, as well.
Stoned loner tones for homes.

This is a bad thing?

No, but I had the feeling that I'd heard "A Vintage Burden" a million times already. I liked it, but like I mentioned, maybe I have to go cold turkey on the acoustic psych for a few days to appreciate it more.

Mmm...perhaps more less psych and more folk-related, should I pay money to see Jana Hunter play live? Her album really is nice, sometimes.

-- rizzx (joris...), April 10th, 2006 10:13 AM. (Rizz)

"vesikansi" on secret eye/lal lal lal. 4 long tracks, 3 over ten min. mark, sounds like they've made friends w/ the vibracathedral/sunroof contingent.

Yus, along with superultramegaok (I think that's the login name...) -- I'm splitting a room at the Radisson with 'em.

An AMT pre-T6 FAP would be AOK.

Ghost have been known to bend the time-space continuum, so perhaps an attendee will post here. Otherwise Terrastock starts this Friday.

The Radisson is on the East Side of Providence, across the river from downtown (or downcity, as the locals call it). Here's a little map that might help.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/prov.gif

Be forewarned; Providence can be a disorienting driving experience. Lots of one-way streets designed to whisk you far from your intended destination.

I wonder if I could just walk to the venues if I wanted...

Follow-up talk about this on the Terrastock thread!

hopefully someone else will put it out... the Kranky pressing of Joy Shapes kinda sucked anyway.

so. Subcurrent. incredible. even better than last year. I feel so energised.

I think that in the 60s there were probably just as many chancers releasing dud lps in limited editions as there are now with cdrs - IIRC records could be pressed in small numbers for a reasonable price back then.

Are you talking about The Very Heart of the World LP or something else? I'm totally digging Burning Star Core lately. The very drone-y violin stuff and Mes Soldats and pretty much anything else.

Still been plowing through so much stuff from Terrastock and after -- it's been great! I definitely have to recommend the Ilyas Ahmed releases on Time-Lag if you're into open-ended, shadowy acoustic guitar/quiet vocals. A bit of a Six Organs jones but it works. Meanwhile I've only gotten around to Peter Wright recently and the reissue of Desolation Beauty Violence is happily doing my head in right now.

Tripmaker, do tell me more about Mr. Wright. I'm extremely interested to hear what else he has now.

i didn't buy that bardo pond - sublimation either, just because i had bought so much other stuff already. i guess it's still available on 3-lobed though. i've never heard any bardo side projects other than that prairie dog flesh album, so i wasn't sure what this would be like since only one of the tracks was bardo proper.

The easy solution for where to start with LVD -- the Elegy Box.

The new (unreleased) Hush Arbors album was handed off to me at a Kansas City Sunburned Hand of the Man gig. I'm totally digging it, easily the best recording he's made. But then I may be biased since Keith's one of my best friends and ex-bandmates. James and Jessica wooden wand lend vocals on a few tracks. Psychedelic country!

Quite. But bring enough money and you'll at least be able to make a slight dent in your wish list. ;-)

has anyone heard this new SHOGUN KUNITOKI - Tasankokaiku on fonal that is on pfork today and also was raved about by aquarius recently?

$40, six discs, good range of the LVD empire and related acts -- really, there's no reason not to listen in if you're already a fan of what's going on. Combine that with the Time-Lag and Foxy D. massive sets of recent years and these are golden times.

But, like granny used to say, "If you have to ask, it's probably crap!"

Soon, good sir! :-) Seriously, I'm still working my way through a huge pile of stuffage. But I'm getting there. :-)

Overwhelming times, yes, but I especially like it for that reason -- it's like the floodgates have been fully opened thanks to the CDR empire.

i'd like to hear that record too. didnt see thepfork review...ill check thatnow, for what its worth

i got the flower traveling band a month or so ago, i'm digging it, yeah. i'd like to hear that magical power mako that radioactive also recently reissued.

aquarius called the shogun kunitoki the best thing fonal has ever put out and deemed it a record of the week.

Satori is an all time classic jammer.

Has anybody heard that Telepathe CDEP on Social Registry. It's starting to really grow on me: stoned dream bliss with some good percussive elements and lots of reverberating female cries, moans, etc. But it's not in your face; it's total lo-volume dead of night come down vibes.

while we're mentioning radioactive reissues, i saw the s/t album from forest, used, the other day. john peel was a fan, does anyone else like it?

The Burnt Hills LP on Flipped Out is a great chunk of seven-guitar psych-Crazy Horse indie-noise jammin'. Good stuff.

I picture you sitting in a room with a CD player surrounded by thousands of discs, dutifully playing one after another, like the steward of some infinite library in a Borges story. Ned Raggett, the Sisyphus of sound....

What are people's favorite Sunbeam releases so far? They've just started sending them to my radio station.

im digging what i have heard of the telepathe record, but have actually go and pick up a full copy. i definately enjoy what they do.

This is why an iPod is so nice -- I can take some it all with me. ;-)

You can't either/or those jams; both are ESSENTIAL. Sell whatever it is you gotta sell in order to buy both tonight.

peter wright? he's been doing stuff since the late 90s, i think. i've got a 2x7" lathe cut and a couple CDRs by him from that time (i was surprised to find out he's still doing stuff).

It's a fun show with great hard rock music. I don't think the group is the second coming or anything. But they got a ton of chops, energy, and will to rock.

I dig the Beat of the Earth jam more than the Relatively Clean Rivers LP. I had a ton of friends just rave about R.C.R. And after hearing it, I told most of them to go listen to American Beauty and Workingman's Dead before going apeshit for the obscure stuff. I was half-bullshitting and half serious.

I dunno when it was issued, but I got an Aleister Crowley CD today.. "The Enochian Sessions." It's actually a CD-R, and I haven't listened to it yet. i believe it's all spoken rather than musical in nature, but could be incorrect.

the electronic hole slays them both!

(also ian OTM it ain't that dead-y.)

Yer totally right, R.C.R is no carbon copy Dead, but I have found it interesting that many friends of mine who love it have never even considered trying out American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, and even Aoxomoxoa, which to me are big time foundations of California bred rural rock. I sometimes think folks with a punk/hardcore/noise education are getting hot over all these obscure psych albums meanwhile they've never heard the records that spawned all the imitations. Maybe I just sound to much like a record dork fucker!

Anyway, I saw the current Sunburned line up, and that Hush Arbors dude did a great kinda slo-mo, shattered neo-Time Fades Away 6-minute indie jam. That was just great. I think I need to pick up some of his own stuff.

Is that the one with unique spraypainted covers in an edition of 3?

http://www.placeboworld.co.uk/images/meds_cover_224.jpg

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I think I've got most of the Wailing Bones comps from Foxy D. now -- sometimes uneven but mostly pretty great. Good way to get a sense of things all at once.

In the random 'take a chance' department courtesy of Amoeba's clearance section, I went for this random EP I found simply because of the cover:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drh200/h294/h29488p4g2p.jpg

I love the drunk-ass earthworm in the corner. Anyway, they're from New Haven, Connecticut and indeed are called Crooked Hook -- myspace page here. Pretty much worshipping at the Blue Cheer/Mountain and related altar; hardly deathless yet but still enjoyable enough, and they're friendly dudes. Opening for the Boris/Thrones/Growing tour when it hits their neck of the woods, which is appropriate.

Phil Pearlman! Whoop!

eh. not when i heard it.

have there been any sunroof releases in the past couple of years? cloudz was really good and that u-sound release was nuts.

Were they nice guys?

they were, but really that means nothing to me
from what i heard in our apt., which i hear most everything roomie/homie records, they seem better to me than pearls and brass or something
but hey what do i know, about rock, though?

now that's just fuckin' nuts.

Meantime, thanks to Dream I got hold of Alela Diane (Menig) -- she's very friendly and her CDR The Pirate's Gospel is keen. She has herself a myspace spot with music if you are so inclined.

i second ned's recommendation of the ilyas ahmed stuff.

Big thanks to Dan up the thread for recommending the Geoff Mullen album. It's a stunner.

Also enjoying the Mark Fosson Lost Takoma Sessions on Drag City.

is this called Same? Cos that is indeed awesome

and the new sun city girls, "djinn funnel" recorded 99-01, instrumental psych jams. good ones, too. french LP.

i don't know if there's any central YSI-ing station for ilm ppl but i'd be happy to rip and deposit it for anyone that wants to check it out.

I like the Stuart Busby double 3" album, North/South a lot. also on pseudo arcana. reminds me of that Johann Johannsson album with the difficult title

http://www.michigannoise.com/

also, coming up, a 500th release anniversary boxset by American Tapes. Supposedly with 25 cd's and a dvd!

I love some new stuff. Like the Nmperign/Jason Lescalleet double album, it's very very fascinating.

Also the Flaherty/Corsano/Yeh cd, A Rock in the Snow. Crazy freepunkjazz. Also, Human Animal is tightening its grip around me. Intrigued by the spaces, as always with Wolf Eyes.

So much more....Graveyards' Bare Those Excellent Teeth, Pedestrian Deposit's Fatale, Jazzfinger's Autumn Engines, Geoff Mullen's The Air In Pieces

uh... what? i saw "terry and jim collins" and that part made sense.

This the Beating Stars record? I loved this one. Will have to check that out.

Also - DUDES - Sandy Bull, Still Valentine's Day, 1969 on Water. Totally essential.