What kinds of music do Republicans genuinely enjoy?

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my dad is republican -- he likes creedence clearwater revival, the doobie brothers, the eagles, the beatles (at least, like dubya, till they "got weird"), johnny cash, merle haggard, and country music in general.

he also likes rod stewart -- at least the pre-"do ya think i'm sexy" stuff.

Country? You'd think, but it's full of dumb working class people*

Most Republican voters are dumb working class people.

aye chihuahua

Besides, I guess the correct answer is Adult Contemporary.

"The answer is "the same kinds of musice Democrats genuinely enjoy". It's a vacuous, ignorant question that doesn't deserve any response beyond abuse directed towards the moron who thought it was in any way valid, interesting, thought-provoking, meritous or worthwhile"

Dan Perry, I seriously love you. :)

Most Republican voters are dumb working class people.

-- Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 May 2007

wtf man? im working class and im republican, sorry if i dont meet your high standards. anyway i like elgar, steely dan, joni mitchell, pissed jeans, doobie brothers, sol campbell & his riverboat gamblers, drexciya and the kingsmen

i had a good friend from undergrad who was very right-wing politically who LOVED rage against the machine. when i asked him to square his fandom with said band with his political beliefs, he said that he largely ignored the lyrics and besides all good bands were communists anyway at least RATM was upfront about it.

"The answer is "the same kinds of musice Democrats genuinely enjoy".

A bit too easy maybe, but it may fit in the USA where there are only two big parties, both of which appeal to everything from absolute upper class to the lowest working class.

In most European countries, there will be a larger number of political parties, and you will often find that, while all classes are represented on all wings, they tend to have their own parties.

For instance, in Norway, traditionally working class people would tend to vote for the Labour party while upper and upper middle class people tend to vote for the Right party. The Left, who do in reality belong in the centre, was originally very much a middle class thing, and still is today except they have lost most of their historic appeal.
However, as times change, you have an increasing number of people who will tend to have political values that doesn't fit into this historic picture, and as they often feel culturally alienated by the party on "the other side" they tend to have their own parties. Thus, in Norway, you have the ultra-right, anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-everything-different "Progress Party", who tend to attract mostly working class and lower middle class votes, while on the other hand there is the Socialist Left Party, whose core group of votes are middle class and even upper class.

The point being? Musical taste doesn't neccessarily follow political preference, but it does follow class to some extent. You will not find that fans of classical music are as well-represented among working class people as among upper- and middle class people. Rock music doesn't enjoy the same divide on the surface, but if you check closely you will find that working class people are more likely to like whatever is in the charts, or in TV ads, while middle class people tend to spend more time reading reviews and checking out whatever the reviewers like. With upper class people, it depends on education. Some upper class people are not particularly educated, and they are more similar to working class people than they like to believe themselves.

Shut up.

yeah, but which norwegian party has the most melodic party fight song?

and anyway - the correct answer to the original question is The Grateful Dead.

Geir's (very european) class discussion is a derail in that there is a difference between Republican voters and the people running the party and setting the agenda.

Goldwater Republican Pazz & Jop ballot, 1980:

MIKE FREEDBERG: Prince: Dirty Mind (Warner Bros.) 15; Change: The Glow of Love (Warner Bros.) 15; Smokey Robinson: Warm Thoughts (Talma) 15; Geraldine Hunt: No Way (Prism) 10; Diana Ross: Diana (Motown) 10; Earth, Wind and Fire: Faces (Columbia) 10; George Benson: Give Me the Night (Warner Bros.) 10; Stevie Wonder: Hotter Than July (Talma) 5; Teena Marie: Irons in the Fire (Gordy) 5; Cameo: Feel Me (Casablanca) 5.

Werner Treischman was the other self-identified Republican voting in Pazz&Jop, I think, though lots of people seem to be leaving the party lately, so I'm not sure how he (and Freedberg, for that matter) are identifying themselves these days (or even whether they crossed party lines in the most recent presidential election, for that matter). Anyway:

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/ballots.php?cid=592

I also know a Republican in his 60s whose favorite music is Kraftwerk, Yello, and Buffy Saint Marie.

Geir's (very european) class discussion is a derail in that there is a difference between Republican voters and the people running the party and setting the agenda.

Now that is true. But there isn't much of a class difference between American politicians, regardless of party. After all, you need lots of money to be able to run for president at all.

House? But it's full of gay people

http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/04/critic.php?criticid=156

From Michael Freedberg's myspace page:

About me:
For the past 27 years, Michael Freedberg has reported on and critiqued pop music (soul music, funk, and dance music more than any other genres) for the Boston Phoenix, Village Voice, Soho Weekly News, TOWER PULSE! and many other publications....I have seen over 3,000 concerts; reviewed at least 1500 records; and interviewed 100s of performers and music industry people. I've reported from Boston as my base city but also from Providence, Worcester, New York, Paris, Barcelona, Montreal, Miami and Orlando, Chicago, and Philadelphia....I was the first critic in the USA to report on scratch mixing -- now the hip hop genre's standard -- and was the first and still the ONLY newsprint media critic to report on live DJ performances....at the Soho Weekly News I had a colu,mn entitled "Turntable Jazz" -- my term -- whose mission was to chronicle the rise of hip-hop scratch mixing. For four years (1994 to 1998) I was the dance-music columnist for TOWER PULSE! ...............I continue to write regularly for the PHOENIX and am working on two book proposals, one of which is "GREAT DJs OF HOUSE MUSIC."

Who I'd like to meet:
Every major DJ who I haven't already met....
my "four major artists of the past 25 years," Bruce Springsteen -- Madonna -- Mylene Farmer -- R.Kelly.....
Frankie Crocker...Si Stein...Clive Davis...Jerry Wexler...David Johansen...Ultra Nate...Liz Torres...Pascal Obispo...Jane Birkin (whom I HAVE interviewed)...Mary J. Blige...and so MANY more...
Seymour Redstone...Warren Buffett...Condoleeza Rice...Hillary Clinton...Vladimir Putin...Larry King... Lou Dobbs...

The Republican (US) in work here played me one of his favourite tunes recently. It was 'The Timewarp' from the Rocky Horror.

Most Republican voters are dumb working class people.

-- Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 22 May 2007

"dumb working class people" is a popular Republican opinion.

the Republican I know best - an ex-60s dude who's definitely an ideologue but dislikes the more corrupt in the party and is probably a giuliani guy, ie prochoice - likes the Rolling Stones, disco Celine Dion, the Beach Boys and Bach, but you wouldn't really call him a music person. another Republican I know - who is semi-chastened by losing the war (thinks the planning wasn't very good), but probably remains a Cheney fanboy nevertheless, though he might also be a Giuliani guy - is (or thinks he is) a Springsteen dude and possibly is open to pop-punk, but seems like he might approach music with as much puzzlement as enthusiasm.

I always thought the leftist politics espoused by so many pop-punkers were jokes given their (at least socially) conservative fanbase

This question illustrates nicely why the Republicans are in charge.

-- Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 9 March 2006 11:53 (1 year ago) Link
THIS IS WHY JESS SHOULD STILL BE A MODERATOR

-- Dan (Dipshit) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:52 (1 year ago) Link

a double dose of OTM

Daddino (and his NRO-quotin' EMP panel discussion) to thread.

I know a very wealthy, very, conservative republican who lives in South Carolina--he literally named his child after Ronald Reagain. He lives in South Caroliona and has probably taken more acid than the entire Jefferson Airplane combined.

He's a huge, huge fan of the Grateful Dead as well as any other jam band stuff.

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Where I live, there are republicans.

They like the 80s channel on the digital cable.

They home school their children so they can teach them about 6,000 year-old dinosaurs.

They get drunk and abuse them, send them off to bed and then weep about "scripture".

They listen to "I Eat Cannibals" and chain smoke.

I can't say whether they genuinely enjoy it though.

Republicans are not a monolith now shut up.

Republicans are not a monolith now shut up.

I was just talking about the family across the street ya dumbass. You don't really think I think all republicans possess these exact attributes?!

now shut up

Well, that's the IDEA of a forum, isn't it?

Republicans are not a monolith

Haha, not anymore motherfucker.

Where I live, there are democrats.

They like Coldplay and Sting.

They pack condoms and morning after pills in their children's lunchboxes along with their (soy) milk and (vegan) cookies, "just in case."

They get stoned and ignore them, send them off to bed and then weep about "global warming".

They get their news from Comedy Central and drink mocha lattes

I can't say whether they genuinely enjoy it though.

in my country there is problem

my dad is republican -- he likes creedence clearwater revival, the doobie brothers, the eagles, the beatles (at least, like dubya, till they "got weird"), johnny cash, merle haggard, and country music in general.

-- Eisbaer, Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:47 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Ditto, but more blues than country over heah. Also floyd, deep purple. whatever's on the "classic rock" station basically

in my country there is problem

hahahaha

let's just say there is certain kind of people make trouble

Republicans are not a monolith now shut up.

-- humansuit,

Why do you hate America?

giles manius called me on friday night from the end-of-year show at SFAI (where he is getting his MFA) - he was angry because the DJ was playing christina aguilera and britney spears and justin timberlake and other teen chart pop ... and the art school students were dancing to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

his comment: "i mean, why fucking even dress up like an indie rocker or an artist if you're not going to act like one"

given the meteoric rise of blog house (and noize dudes YSI'ing bad trance mixes) i can't say i don't sympathize with his position.

i asked him if he thought andy warhol actually *liked* the VU, we agreed probably he didn't actually like their music (he was what, pushing 40 at the time??) as much as he liked barry manilow or the carpenters or old phil spector or whatever.

i bet lou reed and bush listen to some of the same stuff.

Haha, not anymore motherfucker.

Don't make any more nonsensical comments, douche. It makes my head hurt. I also wasn't replying to you. It may be news to you, but I don't care about your neighbor.

Why do you hate America?

Because the Japanese are so much better. Why fight it? I don't. Don't fight it.

They pack condoms and morning after pills in their children's lunchboxes along with their (soy) milk and (vegan) cookies, "just in case."

Which is why so there has been a resurgence of RICKETS in children. No - not the condoms. Or the cookies. I'm talking about the soy milk.

So please, hippies, feed your kids milk. From a cow. I know you've only been out of the city to see Cochella, but please.

several vegetables represent a more absorbable source of calcium. you really don't need milk (although i like milk).

Alright, then feed your newborn vegetables.

alright then

who the hell feeds a newborn vegetables

Yeah, don't breast feed them, that's gross. Give them milk from a cow pumped full of hormones. You don't want your little boy growing up without breasts do you?

no boybreasts no cred

And actually not "a" cow. More like milk thats been taken from a huge supply and then kind of mixed down and vitamin fortified.

Fuck it, let's just make this a milk thread.

cue annoying vegan girl i know: "milk is for BABY COWS ... you're not a BABY COW, are you??"

Where I live, there are democrats.

They like Coldplay and Sting.

They pack condoms and morning after pills in their children's lunchboxes along with their (soy) milk and (vegan) cookies, "just in case."

They get stoned and ignore them, send them off to bed and then weep about "global warming".

They get their news from Comedy Central and drink mocha lattes

I can't say whether they genuinely enjoy it though.

ha ha, that's funny.

xpost -

Well I love how breast feeding / not breast feeding has been broken down along political lines. So let's see what we've learned:

1. Republicans don't like music. See 5 below for exception.
2. All Liberals have RICKETS
3. All Republican boys have boobs.
4. All Liberal boys have boobs too. They are all transvestites.
5. Everyone likes the Beatles. Republicans like them before it "got weird." Liberals like it after.
6. Nobody feeds their newborns vegetables. Except Pretzel Walrus, who doth protest too much.

Lock please.

but surely we can bond over "born in the usa", i know Reagan would approve.

But I thought all liberals were born in Mexico.

you know what, YOU are the douche who isn't making any fucking sense.

This IS a dumb thread, I would agree with you on that.

And if your head hurts because of something you read in here, then you really have a problem but I would recommend a fucking aspirin (Tylenol being far too liberal).

Actually, Tylenol is a processed chemical so I don't think it would be particularly liberal. Then again, it's not in the bible so it's no good for a republican either.

RING RING
"HELLO CHEESE?"
NO!
CHEESE CAN'T CALL, PEOPLE!!

RING RING
"HELLO CHEESE?"
NO!
CHEESE CAN'T CALL, PEOPLE!!

Am I the head douche in a room full of douches? Or am I the head cheese in a room full of cheese?

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i dub thee WAGEMANN 2000

that doesn't mean anything to me.

in that case nevermind, you get to be lex 0.5

Not responding to this anymore. This is the last one.

effective as of the end of this sentence

Yeah. Effective as of NOW.

You forgot a period. WHY

Was that a Captain Monteray Jack reference, moonship? If so, be my valentine

what does mitt romney listen to??

http://www.gorila.sk/i/imgs_orig/731/14731.jpg

i knew a hardcore republican who really liked bob dylan.

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/scanners1123.jpg

Possibly the worst non-Custos opening post in ILX history.

indeed.

i knew a hardcore republican who really liked bob dylan.

take a look at this site i just stumbled onto:

http://rightwingbob.com/whoami.htm

I have been listening closely to Bob Dylan's music since I was 16 years old ... and I'm older than that now. His songs seemed intensely relevant then, and have continued to seem so, through a misspent youth that included my working for Greenpeace, and voting for Jesse Jackson in 1988. The prism of the passing years has only sharpened the light that emanates from Dylan's astounding body of work. My own politics began to change for the better when I purchased, as a joke, a bargain-bin copy of a book called "The Tempting Of America" written by Robert Bork.

kinda says it all.

"They listen to "I Eat Cannibals" and chain smoke."

OH NOES!

Conservative magazines have published lots of "Bob Dylan was not a librul" pieces, citing, obviously, his fundamentalist phase, and his dismissive attitude toward the '60s anti-war movement (Reporter at press conference: "Are you going to attend the peace rally tomorrow?" Dylan: "I think I'm busy that day.")

Oh, and also the fact that in Chronicles Vol. 1, he claims that his favorite politician in the '60s was Barry Goldwater.

republicans like Don McLean's American Pie

John Fogerty: Centerfield
Van Morrison: Brown-Eyed Girl
Stevie Ray Vaughan: The House is Rockin'
The Knack: My Sharona
Blackie and the Rodeo Kings: Swinging from the Chains of Love

Country stars Alan Jackson, George Jones, Kenny Chesney

Classic rockers Eric Clapton, Robert Palmer, Bryan Adams

but Fogerty is a total angry leftist

When has cognative dissonance stalled Republicans? That's the only difference— they listen to the same music that everyone else does, they just don't care whether Fortunate Son is about Vietnam.

in Chronicles Vol. 1, he claims that his favorite politician in the '60s was Barry Goldwater.

Because he reminded him of Tom Mix.

but Fogerty is a total angry leftist

But for a clueless dimwit who once owned a baseball team in Texas, it doesn't matter.

I really wonder what Bush could possibly think when he hears "Fortunate Son." He's a fool, but surely he's not that stupid.

in Chronicles Vol. 1, he claims that his favorite politician in the '60s was Barry Goldwater.

WTF?!?

http://www.goodbyeohio.com/newt.pdf

If you aren't already a Too Much Joy fan, this article won't win you over. It's germane though.

in Chronicles Vol. 1, he claims that his favorite politician in the '60s was Barry Goldwater.

WTF?!?

-- Eisbaer, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 00:51 (11 hours ago) Link

Here's the quote:

"I had a primitive way of looking at things and I liked country fair politics. My favorite politician was Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater, who reminded me of Tom Mix, and there wasn't any way to explain that to anybody. I wasn't that comfortable with all the psycho polemic babble."

I know from experience lots of Republicans like actual good music. You know, good old-fashioned stuff that focuses on melody and harmony rather than exaggerated rhythm.

Hopefully most of them do because that is the best music (because it is!), and not just because it's mostly made by white people.

stuff that focuses on melody and harmony rather than exaggerated rhythm.

So they like R&B but not rap.

They like powerpop.

Current R&B focuses more on rhythm.

they like Bis

"they"

my hardcore right-wing college friend who loved Rage Against the Machine also loved 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Cypress Hill, and BooYaa Tribe.

so much for that theory ...

as much as I don't sympathize with the Republican party, this thread topic is hopelessly reductionist. It reminds me of listening to Republicans talk about how "these people" have dozens of kids to get more welfare money, and then use it to buy drunks and alcohol, and how "queers" are perverting the minds of our children. even though most of the time they've never met a single person who represents the stereotype they are describing.

glad you popped on by to make that point.

max = republican. let's all take turns flogging him with a moistened rope.

I have a friend who is a die-hard Conservative, and he likes Crass.

my hardcore right-wing college friend who loved Rage Against the Machine also loved 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Cypress Hill, and BooYaa Tribe.

I've heard L.A. cops blast "Killing in the Name" from a police lobby.

http://www.mccainblogette.com/docs/playlist/

Taking the question seriously because I can't be chuffed to read the thread:

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Lee Atwater, the late RNC chairman on the right, was actually a passable blues guitarist in the sub-SRV realm of Austin City Limits castoffs.

And a college roommate (rather many moons ago) of the GOP persuasion had a CD collection comprised almost entirely of Robert Johnson and other delta blues tragic figures. Probably ruined the whole genre for me.

Modern Republican consensus favors Nashville product, but blues was the the unifying axis of Republican tastes through the early 90s. The deep conservatism of 16 bar I-IV-V patterns, the caricature of authenticity (all grimaces and retreads) and the reassuring approval by tastemaker authorities all seem consistent with the stereotype.

THe McCain Bloggette thing made me want to destroy the internet. MUST NOT CLICK ON EVERY LINK I SEE.

U2, obvs.

Am I just being a dirty old man, or does the imagery connected with the McCain's daughter blog send kinda the wrong message?

http://www.mccainblogette.com/pics/blogette_01.gif

i.e. young hottie with a laptop

I was thinking "young hottie with radioactive tits".

well, the grateful dead is a pretty misleading answer, because people of pretty much all political leanings give them a spin

and is that humphrey bush in that picture a few posts up playing the guitar? if not, i'm glad george w is aging miserably

Stevie Wonder - Superstitious

but Fogerty is a total angry leftist

fogerty is a totally rocking pop songwriter who led a totally rocking band. that's why most people liked him, republican or democrat. everything else, lefty ideas included, is really really secondary. i'll just assume this is so obvious to everyone that it didn't need to be said.

i know the daughter of a former republican presidential candidate and she also likes bare jr.! weird

This is a trick question. Republicans do not feel "joy," only self-righteousness and seething contempt.

and we wonder why the democrats can't win the white house...jesus just look at this thread.

Correct answer: the wails of tortured innocents.

and we wonder why the democrats can't win the white house...jesus just look at this thread.

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, March 17, 2008 9:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

seriously!

Because we have no sense of humor?

yes

if i was a normal person, i'd hate myself so bad