The *WORST* thing ever...the Puppini Sisters

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Just saw an advert on TV for the worst thing ever.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000FDFKEI.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V53042616_.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2006/07/29/nosplit/bmpop29.xml
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/features/story/0,,1820883,00.html
http://www.thepuppinisisters.com/

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Or best?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've hated this shit since long before you.

The only way their hackneyed regressive ballless soulless 1940s shit would be anything less than the worst thing since AIDS is if they employed a "No blacks no dogs no Irish" policy at their gigs.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

They're The Pipettes for your gran, aye?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I really like their version of Wuthering Heights! It's kind of beautiful, and the harmonies are exquisite.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's even fucking worse than that opera version of "Wuthering Heights" that failed to chart last year.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

'It would be like heckling The London Philharmonic Orchestra; people really respect the musicianship,' says Steph.

-Huh?

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Do you hate Nouvelle Vague too Dom?

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer Nouvell Vagues version of "Too drunk to fuck" to the real one.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

1. Sisters
2. Mr Sandman
3. Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy (From Company B)
4. Java Jive
5. Bei Mir Bist Du Schon
6. Wuthering Heights
7. Jeepers Creepers
8. I Will Survive
9. Tu Vuo' Fa L'Americano (Recitative)
10. Tu Vuo' Fa L'Americano
11. Falling In Love Again
12. Heart Of Glass
13. Sway
14. Panic
15. Heebie Jeebies
16. In The Mood
Customers who bought Betcha Bottom Dollar also bought

* Simple Minds - Silver Box (5CD Long Box)
* Pink Martini - Hang On Little Tomato
* Danny Kaye - Sings Hans Christian Anderson & Other Favourites
* Keisha White - Out Of My Hands
* The Pipettes - We Are The Pipettes

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, original one.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, you people realise that novelty cover versions are the hardest thing to fuck up, right? Richard Cheese, Black Velvet Flag, The King, Paul Anka, that cunt with the accordion from Popjustice, "Hurt" by Johnny Cash: this stuff is all GOOD. Sing a song from one genre in the style of another, ha ha ha, funney funney funney, listen to the album three times and then forget about it. This is such an easy genre to make 7/10 music in that there's no excuse for foistering this abortion of an album on the public.

Look, listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_bw3aDSOI

This is the German novelty country band The Boss Hoss doing "Hey Ya". First time it's funny, second time you go "Wow, that's quite clever what they've done there", third time you go "Yeah, that's enough of that". It's what makes novelty covers such joy to the mind: it's uber bubblegum, chew until the flavour quickly vanishes then destroy. It's why the Puppinis are just the drecks.

I mean, The Pipettes are like indie rock sex dolls. The Pipettes are meant to be... indie rock sex dolls for my grandad? Joy - where is it?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

The new Nouvelle Vague album is dreadful. But their versions of "Too Drunk To Fuck" and "Friday Night, Saturday Morning" are both better than the originals. Same as Richard Cheese's "Get Down With The Sickness"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.lollipop.com/2006/02february/images/thedittybops200.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Actually much as enjoyed that one song, just reading that tracklisting makes me feel ill.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Ditty Bops album is great, but they're not exactly a novelty covers band are they? Unless you count one 20s style cover of a Buddy Holly song as subversive.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone who has ever been to the Edinburgh festival will know the feeling of dread that comes over you when you hear yet another evil thespian horror murdering 'Summertime'.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

By the Sundays or Fresh Prince?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Porgy and Bess...

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

I knew what this would be about before clicking the thread.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

'Heart of Glass' is the closest to bearable but the rest I couldn't past 3 seconds.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

very christmassy looking

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Ditty Bops album is great, but they're not exactly a novelty covers band are they?

No. I'm just responding to "hackneyed regressive ... 1940s shit." I've never heard these Puppinis.

Also, that tracklisting seems to indicate that at least half their songs are actual pre-rock songs ("Sisters," "Mr. Sandman," "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen," "Jeepers Creepers," "In the Mood") -- which are covers, yes, but then so is Ditty Bops' version of "Shimmy Like My Sister Kate."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Why does the one in the middle look so much like a raven?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

1920s > 1940s. The 1940s are the worst fucking decade ever.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Who fucking cares about the QUALITY OF THIS AS ALBUM MUSIC? Oh noes it's only a 7/10 and I was only able to listen to it three times the first few months after it came out!!!

Passantino with the grating rockist smackdown. They are excellent.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's rockist to hate music because it's fucking dreadful now? At least read what I wrote before arguing against the completely opposite of what I said.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I really intrigued now...

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, I'm pretty sure his point is that it's not even a 7/10. they're striking out in the slow-pitch softball league here.

xpost

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Why does the one in the middle look so much like a raven?

The middle one was on the "lesbian pole dancer circuit"

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

So it's corny arrangements of corny tunes? What's the point?

"Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen", "Jeepers Creepers"

I mean, these are great tunes, but I only think that because I've got Leroy Jones (best trumpet player in the world who no one acknowledges) doing un-corny versions of both.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I knew what this would be about before clicking the thread.

-- Konal Doddz

You saw the advert too?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Sisters: 1954
Mr. Sandman: 1954
Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy: 1941
In the Mood: 1940
Jeepers Creepers: 1938
Bei Mir Bist Du Schon: 1937

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Jeepers Creepers is without doubt a great song.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I honestly think this is the worst album I've ever heard in my life. And that includes the time when I listened to about 5 local band demos a week whilst I was at university. And when someone made me listen to the second Kula Shaker album.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

ok got it now - sorries for tendency to merely skim passantino's bilious posts.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

when do we got novelty chain-ganged minstrels doing Ministry covers as field chants?

That's what i want to know.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ah but Alfonso, the hilarious joke with the Puppinis is that they ACTUALLY LIKE INDIE! And that gag would never work with minstrels, because black people don't want to rock.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

this music is too white for a smiths fan

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ha - The Puppinis do Jesus Built My Hotrod?

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit where is that Blazing Saddles clip.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Good version of "Panic!" Shows there was a decent song in there.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I could care less about their music, but putting 45-second song clips up on your myspace is so bush-league

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was always the problem with the Smiths, not enough bad go-nowhere comedy. They should have done a whole album of "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

'bush-league'? That's nothing to do with the lesbian pole dancers I take it?

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's supposed to be cute, rather than funny - same issue as on the Pipettes thread (the "oh, they're so ironic" critical gambit)!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Poopini sisters.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Poopini sisters.

QFT

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, they're ghastly.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God, horrible. I had to turn it off too.

― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

'bush-league'? That's nothing to do with the lesbian pole dancers I take it?
-- lexurian (tomelliot...), August 1st, 2006.

not intentionally, although now that you mention it, I wouldn't count on any of them getting a call up to the majors any time soon

(THIS IS MY SUBTLE WAY OF SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOT PLEASANT TO LOOK AT) (the redhead comes closest but she is hovering dangerously close to crazy-eyes territory)

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I've only heard a couple of songs, including Wuthering Heights and their harmonies are extremely inferior to the Boswell Sisters who they cite as an influence (I've not yet heard the Puppini's version, I assume "Heebie Jeebies" is a cover of the Boswell's arrangement). Their voices rarely ever mesh together the way the Boswells or the Andrews Sister do. The tracklisting is awesomely bad too. There's about 100,000 great songs from between the world wars and they choose fucking "In The Mood". Groan...

― everything (everything), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

As I said earlier, just go to Edinburgh during the month of August and you will find the place crawling with crazy-eyed actress/songstress types cracking off 'music' of a similar timbre.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I found and proved it.

The worst song ever made.

1987.

The Utensils.

"The Beastie Boy Wrap"

A 12" released on Erika Records, based in Lakewood, California.

An anti-Beastie Boys song that was a parody rap song about how little talent you need to be the Beastie Boys or be a music star.

The music was the most banal midi beatbox creation ever made. The jokes were even worse.

And there were no less than SIX REMIXES on the single.

I wasted my measly dollar on this 12" single (and CARRIED IT back home no less!) so people who claim that Powersource's "Dear Mr. Jesus" and Lee Greenwood's "God Bless The USA" are the worst songs ever would be running to cower underneath these songs for their relative warmth and brilliance, much less the genius of anything mentioned in this thread so far.

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

YSWHY?

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

(808 drum fill)

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

When I get home, I'll encode this and provide a way for you to hear it for yourselves.

You'll be very very sorry you did.

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Bette Midler was decent enough singing "Fever" on Conan O'Brien last night.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

the pipetttes are no better

― kevin barking (arghargh), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard about a minute's worth of clips of these lot on adverts, and as such bracket them alongside The Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain, who I've heard exactly one song by, which was a shitbag novelty cover of some sort (I have the CD in work, I'll look tomorrow). Bands have been sent on tour together on flimsier grounds so...

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

And yet, the Long Blondes are "The Best Rock and Roll Band in the World" right now, right Passantino? Go figure. (xp)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a coherent point you're trying to make Tim, or are you suffering from some sort of head trauma? The Long Blondes are "good", but "Weekend Without Make Up" leads me to believe the album won't be anywhere near as good as the early singles. And the best band in Sheffield are Monkey Swallows The Universe, anyway.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

There certainly is! All three bands are just another kind of schtick. They are quite similar in this way. And all three are good. They have good songs and good singers.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

What's the LBs schtick? I mean, they're just, as I've said before, a non-shit version of the Kills, all indie femme fataleness and coy paranoia.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

"Post-punk"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to figure out a way defending the Ukelele Orchestra from bracketing with those Punani Blisters.. but all I can come up with is.

Ukeleles!

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Weekend Without Make Up" leads me to believe the album won't be anywhere near as good as the early singles.

You are talking about albums again!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

TEH IRONY is that Domenico Passantino is giving them far more attention than they deserve.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

The Long Blondes are a rock band. Some of their music sounds like post-punk, often just like the Au Pairs. Some sound like Blondie or you know what, just rock-n-roll. And thus though their influences may be obvious, they are basically a rock band, and should be judged by their songwriting, their performance, I dunno, whatever you'd judge a band by. Post-punk isn't a schtick for them. It's just a kind of music they like. Jeez. It's not like they're out their playing totally non-post-punk music in a post-punk style, because that would be funny. There's no way I'd compare their post-punk influence with the kind of all-out schtick the puppinis display.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

It's all appropriation of identity and costumery, man. "Just rock and roll?" No. It's not Chuck Berry and it's not Grand Funk Railroad. It is very much post-punk per se and nothing but (that I have heard, anyway - I suppose I've heard like five of their songs or something). And may I say: better to be complete about it than to be half-assed? As Julian Cope said in teh krautrock book about Faust - if they ever ripped something off they did it Directly.

So my question would be why the Pipettes or the Pupinni Sisters would be saddled with the term "schtick" more than the Long Blondes. It seems to me that Long Blondes are ONLY less likely to be called schtick because their chosen stylistic appropriation is a more inherently serious one (non-goofy post-punk*) than the Pipettes' ("girl groups*) or the Puppini Sisters' (Andrews Sisters and what have you).

* What about a more goofy post-punk appropriation band like, say, the Scissor Girls. Was their stuff more "schtick" than the Long Blondes'? Is so, why?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I call bullshit on all that, Tim. And to side-step the obvious response to my opinion, it's not just because i'm a post-punk fan/apologist/whatever. Were the Beach Boys just doing schtick when they did Chuck Berry? No, it's rock-n-roll, the music they liked that was relevant to them. The difference between Long Blondes and Puppini Sisters (haven't heard Pipettes), is while both groups are referencing sounds from the past that they like, one of them is sincere and the other is putting on an act. Their style is not costumery and schtick, it's what they, their fans, their idols, their friends and most people they know dress like! Not only does Puppini Sisters reach back to a relatively forgotten style, they make schtick out of it by covering non-Andrews Sisters material, not much different then Nouvelle Vague, as mentioned above, who, like them or not, are a schtick band. And a one-schtick pony at that. I'm not saying the Puppini Sisters don't sincerely like that kind of music, but they are doing it in a very meta way, very schtick. To think the Long Blondes are doing the same is to underestimate the popularity and relevance of post-punk, as well as it's place in the continuum of rock. It is after all, often, just rock with a little disco, punk with a little dub, whatever. The Andrews Sisters style is more the "per se and nothing but" you're looking for.

Now, I saw the Long Blondes perform less then a week ago to a packed Knitting Factory. No, not all their songs are identifiable as specific post-punk pastiches. And I'd wager most of the audience had no idea of any prior reference points (au pairs, delta 5, what have you). I can't say the same for the Puppini Sisters. I can't imagine their target audience is young kids who think "wow, those bangs are a great style that really speaks to me and I love the way those harmonies sound!" Those in the the know might say of the Long Blondes, "cool, I love Pylon!" but that's really not important to the audience(outside of record collecting nerds such as myself).

Why call the Scissor Girls a goofy post-punk appropriation band or schtick at all? They were nostalgic for a sound that maybe pointed down new roads of exploration and an attitude that was still fresh and exciting, the way 20-something art majors will always find that stuff fresh and exciting. I think all of their pretension, all of their bullshit, was more sincere then to call it schtick.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

but Azita doing Steely Dan...that's schtick.

Which is ok. I like that album.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

"one of them is sincere and the other is putting on an act"

Wait, are you assuming the Pupinni Sisters are not *sincere*? I suppose you are talking about a particular type of sincerity that Long Blondes have and Pupinni Sisters do not, but I'm not sure what it is.

The "act" is just more pronounced with the Pupinni Sisters (and Pipettes). The Long Blondes are perhaps freer in their postmodern corner* - this is what you mean by the "It's just rock and roll/It is what they and most people they know dress like" argument. But every single element about them must still function as nouveau post-punk. I will grant that they seem freer than other bands from their genre - which is great - but I'm not sure that it's not schtick.

* I never used the term "pastiche" regarding them, by the way. I wouldn't use it for Pipettes or Pupinni Sisters either, for that matter - they seem too sincere.

P.S. Re. Scissor Girls. Not sure how you could state that a band that looked like this...

http://www.atavistic.com/artist/scizgrls1.jpg

...were unequivocally NOT SCHTICK!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

Long Blondes photo for reference purposes!

http://www.fanclub.ro/attachment.php?attachmentid=16288

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

There's been an underground 1920-40's vintage music/clothes/cabaret scene here in the US for years.

http://sobsisters.tripod.com/imgs/picnictrio.jpg

Go for it I say! Things indeed could be worse.

― Vg (1411), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

There is no escape on TV from this. You channel hop and the advert comes on every station ARGHHHH!

I assume this lot are getting airplay on oldies radio? I dread my mum hearing them on Clyde 2.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

The Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain cover I heard was 'Le Freak'. It's vile

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

I fear a Robson & Jerome comeback now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's a difference between revivals when one is presented purely as a historical reference and one is presented as something that is still relevant. The Scissor Sisters were taking part in the ongoing thing that is art-school kids making noisy music, it may have fallen out of favor, but is and always will be a current thing. The Long Blondes write music influenced by post-punk, like some bands are influenced by power-pop, or punk, or sludge metal, it's all rock-n-roll to me. 1940s Andrews Sisters style harmonizing while dressing like you've stepped out of the USO is a nostalgic act that exists outside of the continuum.

The way I see it is there's a narrow difference between styles that exist to specifically re-create an old fashion out of nostalgia, and styles where the past influences are at least partly digested and used in something that can exist in a contemporary setting without being written off as schtick.

My girlfriend recently got the Racentours CD and it's clearly working in certain styles/certain influences, but that's second to the fact that it's a rock album and you either like the songs or you don't. When I first heard Broadcast, I thought their ripping off of the United States of America was schtick as it was so blatant, but they went somewhere with it, used it, stretched it's boundaries and ultimately expanded past it.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

What was the first Broadcast you heard, out of interest Dan?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

What is wrong, exactly, with having a schitck?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

It depends on what the schtick is. Often if the schtick seems too blatantly retro that can be really annoying - as if to say 'things were better then', that rose-tinted attitude etc.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

And the Puppinis are annoying but not sure if it's just for the overbearing retro schtick or whether it's more because they're just doing it in a really annoying way. I think I'd rather listen to those mad old women in Bellville Rendezvous.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Let's be honest, any schtick is better than the 70's hairy rock revival we suffered a few years ago.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

molly's chambers gonna change your mind!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Often if the schtick seems too blatantly retro that can be really annoying - as if to say 'things were better then', that rose-tinted attitude etc.

When music was music - Clyde 2 ™

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think anything's wrong with schtick, especially if you like it. I mean, if I loved the Andrews Sisters and I loved disco, then the puppinis doing Gloria Gaynor would be the coolest thing in the world! No, I love plenty of schtick, I'm just defending the Long Blondes from being painted with that particular brush. I'd say a lot of the dance music I like is schtick in that it's painfully retro, but I like the old sound and I like the new song, so I have no problem with that. But as that retro sound becomes more prevelant, it becomes a part of current trends, in a way that nostalgia trends almost never do.

The first Broadcast I heard was something of the first album, I'm not at home so I can't check, there are specific moments where everything down to the way the vocals are recorded are totally US of A.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

a difference between revivals when one is presented purely as a historical reference and one is presented as something that is still relevant

In what sense are the Long Blondes "relevant?"

The Scissor Sisters were taking part in the ongoing thing that is art-school kids making noisy music, it may have fallen out of favor, but is and always will be a current thing.

Always? Because it's "relevant?"

The Scissor Sisters were also RETRO: "We are a no wave band."

When I first heard Broadcast, I thought their ripping off of the United States of America was schtick as it was so blatant, but they went somewhere with it, used it, stretched it's boundaries and ultimately expanded past it.

It seems to me that the Puppini Sisters are doing this also.

as that retro sound becomes more prevelant, it becomes a part of current trends, in a way that nostalgia trends almost never do.

Seems like the Puppini Sisters are already quite popular! Nevertheless, you are apparently stating that, unlike the good nouveau post-punk bands, they are irrelevant.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

It seems to me that the Puppini Sisters are doing this also.

HEIN?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, maybe not "expanded past it," but definitely "went somewhere with it, used it, stretched its boundaries."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, do you think Travis "did something interesting" with "Baby One More Time"?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Well, killing something can be interesting, but not by default.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard it. Some britishes? (xp)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I expect Geir thinks Travis improved on it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know where you got "interesting" anyway, Dom.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

(i.e., would not say that interestingness is a big part of their appeal - would say that it's more to do w/ freshness, energy of the music, good songs, good singing, etc.)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

In what sense are the Long Blondes "relevant?"

In the sense that they are doing well and connecting with an audience who enjoys them and at no point even would realize that maybe theres is an "old" sound.

The Scissor Sisters were also RETRO: "We are a no wave band."

No Wave by it's very nature is/was an experimental thing, they took the cues but it's not like they made a career covering Teenage Jesus, or said "hey, isn't it funny, we're performing popular songs in an archaic style!"

Seems like the Puppini Sisters are already quite popular! Nevertheless, you are apparently stating that, unlike the good nouveau post-punk bands, they are irrelevant.

You're missing my point. They are popular for their schtick. Like Sha-na-na. The way people who saw Sha-Na-Na would go, "Oh yeah, the 50s!". Long Blondes audience are mostly not responding to them in that manner. They are a rock band with certain key influences.

It's not a bad thing, I'm not saying Puppinis don't have energy, or good songs...but c'mon Tim, it's schtick!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

In the sense that they are doing well and connecting with an audience who enjoys them and at no point even would realize that maybe theres is an "old" sound.

Of course, but you were using this to say that they were relevant while the Puppini Sisters were not.

"hey, isn't it funny, we're performing popular songs in an archaic style!"

Maybe they would have been better if they had actually BEEN a little wittier. (And I've expressed my opinion about the criticism of Pipettes/Puppinis as allegedly one-dimensional joke bands here and on the Pipettes thread.)

Re. last point: I never said the Pupinnis are NOT schtick. Said opposite, but also said Long Blondes are a kind of schtick. Long Blondes audience is responding to them mostly as a mix of particular stylistic signifiers that all function under the nouveau post-punk rubric, I would say. A huge part of their appeal is their retro-ness.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh, my second point was about Scissor Girls - that's perhaps not clear.)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

an audience who enjoys them and at no point even would realize that maybe theres is an "old" sound.

You gotta be kidding me!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'd bet a fair section of their audience would consider Long Blondes "modern/contemporary"... I'm not saying that's good or right, I'm just saying that's the case.

And also why has no one pointed out that the Long Blondes compose songs (derivative though you claim them to be)... where as the Pupinis are a covers group of music not even their parents listened to?

Long Blondes = Arguably derivative
Pupini sisters = one trick pony

Tim, there's a a fair few country miles between the two...

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry Tim, you're out of touch! I saw the Long Blondes play to PACKED Knitting Factory, comprised mostly of 18 year old girls, last thursday. Nouveau post-punk signifiers are only relevant to the initial music geeks who actually GET the signifiers. When the Rapture are selling out shows filled with kids who've never heard PiL and Gang of 4, they're not cashing in on post-punk nostalgia. When the Long Blondes play to a room filled with young kids, maybe a few of them are into that hip post-punk revival, but even they are into the revival as a living, breathing, growing, evolving, new thing. I overheard these kids talking about crappy new bands they discovered on the blogs, I was the only one in the balcony going "hey, this sounds like the au pairs." The Long Blondes appeal that is retro-ness is no different then say, any number of bands that sound like bands that came before them. There is a difference between that and retro/nostalgia fashions that are so purely about being of a retro/nostalgic fashion.

My point is the Puppinis fans are most likely aware of the "act", and both their aesthethic and choice of material shows that they are trading in schtick.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so your point, Dan, is that the Long Blondes are more relevant because they have eighteen year old fans who (so you claim) don't understand a thing about how much of an entirely retro-signifying construction they are? (Not knowing about the Au Pairs != not having any sense whatsoever that they are a retro-signifying construction, btw.)

Tim, there's a a fair few country miles between the two...

Never said there wasn't. There's also a fair few things they have in common.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

my point, which I'm just no good at expressing I suppose, is not that at all, I just use the response of the fans as a result of the two groups M.O. First of all, post-punk, having been "revived", like it or not, is now an aspect of contemporary music in a way that the Andres Sisters is not. I'm sure the puppinis sat around and said "we like the bugle boy shit so let's do some" and the Long Blonds sat around and were like "we like that rough trade shit so let's do some", but beyond that there is an alltogether more contrived thing going on with the likes of the puppinis and nouvelle vague then the Long Blondes. The LB are not reviving some forgotten, lost style of music and writing songs that draw attention to how funny it is that they're playing that kind of music with that kind of material etc... I'm sorry I'm no good at explaining myself sometimes.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't use the word "contrived" wrt to Puppinis, but I otherwise agree with that distinction (though yet again compelled to express opinion that I don't think the humor element is that big a part of the Puppinis appeal - that was part of Dom's criticism, I think: how many times can you laugh at it?).

I was just listening to the clip of that "Weekend Without Makeup" song on the LB's myspace and, yeah, that doesn't seem as good as some of their others. If indeed, as Dom frets, they don't turn out to be GREAT ALBUM ARTISTS after all, the irrelevance of considering them as album artists only means they have more in common with the Puppini Sisterz!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Having listened to this, all I have to say is that this sucks pretty bad. Really, some of these songs rank up there in "Strummin' With the Devil" territory.

Really, this stuff sounds like the dinner show at restaurant in the Magic Kingdom.

― M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

That'd be cool. I certainly wish Disney were that progressive!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

the scissor sisters are no wave? that's some chuck eddy shit ya pullling

― acrobat (elwisty), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Scissor Girls, not Scissor Sisters.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely everything about the picture at the top of this thread is just... unsettling.

― xavier (xave), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think I made that mistake first. Either way, at no point did Tim or myself actually confuse the Scissor Sisters for the Scissor Girls.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Please make them go away. Every bleeding advert break its on.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

You hate 1940s fun.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

everyone knows Baby Cakes was the worst thing ever, possibly followed by My Humps and the new Paolo Nutini.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

You hate 1940s fun.

I will do if my mum and dad buy this and I get subjected to it in their car.
I'll never get nostalgic for Shine On Harvey Moon again.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Baby Cakes" and "My Humps" are so far from being the worst thing ever it's not true.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Baby Cakes merely reminded me that whilst I hated 2step at the time, it was only cos I was young and foolish... oh to return to such innocent times...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Chacun a sa mode, mon ami...in the case of 'My Humps' it's the line 'my lovely lady lumps' that's the clincher for me. Eugh.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

My theory is that pomposity always trumps silliness in the worstness stakes.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps, but 'grotesquely off-putting erotic imagery' beats 'em both.

Speaking of pomposity, incidentally, you have just reminded me of the Millennium Prayer...

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

grotesquely off-putting erotic imagery is great.

Ah, you're a prude in tight underwear you are!

Daniel O'Donnell - Blue Jeans. That's your album Louis.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

My theory is that pomposity always trumps silliness in the worstness stakes.

You like a lot of pompous prog!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

PROG IS NOT POMPOUS ALRITE?

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Akshully I'm not saying that pomposity is inherently bad, but to me something that aspires to "seriousness" and is shit is worse than something that aspires to making people shake their booties and is shit.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Prog is coming back in, y'know.

xpost

SOS, point taken. I shall reserve my uppermost ire for U2, Coldplay and Richard Ashcroft in future.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I never said it was. I'm just saying you do like the pompous stuff!
x-posts

prog never went out for a lot of people on here, Louis.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I realised about 10 years ago that the NME/Punks lied about prog and realised there was as much good prog as there was punk.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the thing is, and I'm sure this has been said often, you can't lump all 'prog' into one basket. Even within one band the emphasis of the music varied from genuine musical exploration and emotional, enjoyable soundscapes (Close To The Edge, Relayer, The Yes Album) to empty, 'virtuoso' posturing and aimless meander (most of the rest of the Yes catalogue). King Crimson were also proponents of both, although other, lesser bands were only capable of the latter (ELP?).

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I will always hate ELP and I just cant get into Yes or Rush at all.
Van Der Graaf Generator and King Crimson are my faves. Like lots of other bands though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of us like empty virtuoso posturing and aimless meander sometimes too.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yes have probably the most undeserved overall reputation in rock. The three albums I mentioned are all IMO stone-cold classics and everyone with an interest in music should at least listen to them before dismissing the band. I don't mind if they do subsequently slate Yes, because at least they'll have had the opportunity to make their own minds up.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

If we all had to listen to everything before we slagged it off, we'd never get any slagging off done.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard them.

x-post lol Jim.
Next Louis will be expecting The Lex to listen to the Arctic Monkeys before saying they're the worst band ever.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's a fair cop. That's exactly what I did. :-)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you need to listen to 3 whole albums to get Yes or feel your distaste for them justified.

Curved Air... worst.. ever.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Is it Curved Air or Air Supply that are Jeremy Clarkson's favourite band ever?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently Curved Air is his favourite band

One of his favourite bands is rock band Curved Air.

He has 3 donkeys.

Apparently he has a dog called Genesis too.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I have never heard Curved Air or Air Supply.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

So Horrible Terrible

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Not knowingly anyway.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Air Supply had a big hit single I think, you've probably heard that K.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Theres loads of 70s and 80s songs I probably know and don't realise who it was by.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

what is this thread about? i can't get past the picture at the top of it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thepuppinisisters.com/

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/puppinisisters has 4 songs. Including The Smiths "Panic" (as bad as you can imagine it to be) and kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights"
and my most hated song of all time "I Will Survive"

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

oof, no, ten more seconds of that and i'd be drinking vomit right now

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you be doing that?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

they are from the u.k.? the darts were big in the u.k. too, right? the darts were horrible. i am a roman holiday fan though. zodiaccadillacimamotormaniac!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Not within projectile range of suitable vomit receptacle. Plus, penance for my aural sins. xpost

The Darts were never big over here, no.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

The Darts had a huge hit here.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

6 Darts Daddy Cool / The Girl Can't Help It Nov 1977
2 Darts Come Back My Love Jan 1978
2 Darts Boy From New York City May 1978
2 Darts It's Raining Aug 1978
18 Darts Don't Let It Fade Away Nov 1978
10 Darts Get It Feb 1979
6 Darts Duke Of Earl Jul 1979
11 Darts Let's Hang On May 1980

OMG MINOR POP ACT WITH NO HITS

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I always get Darts confused with Racey, I'm sure I've mentioned this on ILM before.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

If they're sisters why is only the one on the left hot.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

??!

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

They're not really sisters.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Darts were massive here, you are too young to understand Louis. (I remember having the prepubescent hots for their lady singer).

But really Scott they were only our Sha Na Na.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking about the 1964 Darts. ;-)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

They're not really sisters.

Someone call the OFT. We can nail these suckers.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, just show 'em Ana Matronic's head on a stake and that'll scare 'em into disbanding.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Bagsy I nail the redhead.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

They look like wooden puppets.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

The one in the middle does look she's from the 40s though. Maybe we could test her "English woman of the 40s" quotient by seeing how many US servicemen she can suck off in a three hour time limit.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

What a great turn this thread has taken.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Do you prefer Darts or sexually promiscuous war widows, Ned?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Really great.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

TS: The redhead from the Puppini Sisters vs. the hot blonde one from the Pipettes.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

I take the fat guy from the Futureheads.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/kid_eh/musicblog/futureheads3.jpg

HOT

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

The Puppini Sister on the right has a real unnatural grin. It's almost unsettling, as if the camera man has just taken her up the kwik fit fitter.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

This is going to get worse before it gets better.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Thats what the cameraman probably said.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

I call it the John Ritter. As a sign of respect of course.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

It sure is, Dom.

xxpost

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

I just hope Alex In NYC heres the puppini sisters one day then we can enjoy what he has to say here. This thread lacks alex.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

She looks as if she's trying to remove with her left hand whatever the cameraman put there.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

jimnaseum but you can't get better than a kwik fit fitter

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 6 August 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

That's the tiny Futurehead, Dom.

― Fraggle O Rly (Ferg), Sunday, 6 August 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to "I Will Survive" and thought "Sh-Boom (Life Could Be a Dream)"

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Sunday, 6 August 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't get past the fucking Smiths cover, so I didn't listen to the rest of it. Terrible.

I can't imagine anyone liking this stuff who isn't unforgivably annoying. And indeed their friends list is full of would-be "burlesque" models and similar fuckwits.

― DougD (DougD), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

Just wait until they've been on Parky or the Paul O'Grady Show, bound to be huge come christmas time.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

The real question: is this better or worse than Squirrel Nut Zippers?

― nicenick (nicenick), Monday, 7 August 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Who?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

The admins have spoilt our fun and specified the thread title. No more prog, Darts or rotund Northumbrian drummers.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Like thats gonna stop a thread derailment. Especially if Geir posts.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've not seen much of Geir but from what I have he seems to link everything back to B-grade Britpop...

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody punchline that, I don't have the strength any more.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yes you do.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mine's A-grade :-)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Where is Geir anyway...? (will I be forced to yet again Google his name in search of more ludicrous "melodic" theory?)

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Geir's turned up on the Blondie vs B-52s thread, but in a low level. I like how this thread has survived without ILM's A-list turning up to post though, a Geir or Alex In NYC interlude would ruin things. It's a thread for character actors, not superstars.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Upstart stagehands?

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

You're a veritable JT Walsh, Louis.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Since Alex doesn't post as much now maybe hes calmed down now that ILX isn't around to send him into a rage.
If only The Puppini Sisters had covered a Killing Joke song..

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

i liked the post punk fellas having a tiff but what is curious is that Lex hasn't posted.

― acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 7 August 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he hasn't heard them?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Then they may well be the worst band ever!

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

Well he's gonna like the puppini sisters more than the arctic monkeys I think.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

big call. BIG call.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

They're bound to record a christmas album aren't they? I dread to think what would be on that.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

The redhead is still hot. I think that's what keeps me coming back to this thread.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Jingle Bells, fo' sho'

xpost

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

And an ironic indie cover of a popular band like say.. Arctic Monkeys?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

Or Coldplay or James Blunt.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops! I Bet You Look Good In The Ballroom

xpost

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

sorry

Whoops! I BETCHA Look Good In The Ballroom

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that would be lame. Fortunately, the Puppini Sisters are not lame so this speculative business, imo, should not be put upon them.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Why not? It's ILM.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

I made a comment and I'm totally A-List, Passantino. QED, BITCHES.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

good point re xmas album -- i was gonna say, this is a bit early for the xmas market, but now i grok they will do another album in the next few months.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

It really saddens me, that threads about female bands on ILM turn out to be so much NASTIER, on a personal level that has nothing to do with music, than any vitriol spilled upon males.

Shouldn't you all go back to taking digs at newspapers you wished you worked for instead?

― In Search Of The Infinite Freckle (kate), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

example?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

This week's Petridish punchbag - but does he have a point?

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

i mean an example of nastier, personal criticism of this female band on this thread.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

dnftt

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

This place could use some trolling today. It's so slow and my boss is away. I'm so bored I might do some work!

I can't even remember anyone being nasty about the Pupps on this thread but that may be blindness caused by my amazement that Tim likes them!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

there was some meanness about them on the pipettes thread. (confusing!)

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

there was not! not beyond 'they are crap lol' anyway.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure there is a hell of a lot of difference between the mean spirited vitriol on this thread and the mean spirited vitriol on say the Arctic Monkey's threads. I think even there the bands lack of good looks was made an issue.

― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

but then the AMs wear crappy 'not bothered' clothes. perhaps more all-girl 'showy' bands should do that? i'd rather see the Pipettes in burkas myself.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

In what way is a burka (sic) "crappy 'not bothered'" clothes? Surely it shows a deep and fundamental commitment?

― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

i was proposing an alternative to 'not bothered' attire with that last sentence actually. should've made that clearer.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

If thing's carry on this way an accusation of racial insensitivity is gonna pile up on top of the misoginy and sexism.

― acrobat (elwisty), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

mentioning burkas is racist.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

I heard a couple of tracks from this album when I was in Borders thee other day. I don't get the fuss either way. It wasn't great, but it wasn't particularly horrible either? "the worst thing ever" compared to what?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

i think Kerr just wanted to stir up some contwovesy.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

haha ilm in slightly overstating things shocka.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I suppose. Tagging the bland as insufferably awful omg no-one has ever done that ever. I was just surprised at how inoffensive it was, that's all.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

wait til they start covering Primal Scream.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

i think Kerr just wanted to stir up some contwovesy.

I didn't actually think it would stir up controversy actually. I knew, with this being ILM, that someone would defend them, but I certainly didn't expect 200+ answers.

And Kate, If it had been The Puppini Brothers I still would've hated it as much and if I had the internet/ILX when Robson & Jerome were big I can assure you the level of vitriol would've been higher!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

oops where did that erroneous actually come from.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

God I just noticed theres a robson & jerome thread been started.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

wait til they start covering Primal Scream.

-- Konal Doddz (stevem78@g

the outraged cries of scrm fns if that were to happen would be hilarious!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

i'll admit to being a little curious to hear a Puppinis rendition on 'Stuka' at least.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

for some reason this morning an old melody maker gag came back to me, off of their equiv to the 'thrills' page: primal scream's new barbershop direction. you never know.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

COME ON!!! COME ON!!! PUSH THE ACCELERATOR PUSH THE ACCELERATOR

can't see it, myself

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is ILM's equivalent of Godwin's Law the point where somebody accuses posters of being jealous of the people they're slagging off?

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

either that or the first person to mention MBV.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm curious as to the subcurrent of "I wonder what The Lex/Alex in NYC/Geir thinks of this". Are the opinions of the people actually contributing not good enough?

I have no problem at all with the existence of the Puppini Sisters. I'm just not sure who they are being marketed at. I think my dad would like them, and I'm pretty sure he would like their version of Wuthering Heights just fine for what it is (three lassies singing a song) without having any prior knowledge of Kate Bush. They are no better or worse than the likes of Il Divo, G4, whatever - repackaging songs in a different manner.

I'm not saying I like any of the above acts, btw. But, as Pash said, there's nothing really there to dislike, so much.

(also I've never heard them on Clyde 2 which I listen to at work, and which plays some excellent music from time to time, but I'm not derailing this thread into a discussion of a provincial commercial station that no-one apart for me and Kerr's parents appear to listen to)

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Darts were great btw though Dan Hegarty's state terrified me as a nipper.

NME cover stars too in the era when punk was breaking iirc

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Great review, Dom.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 19 August 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm curious as to the subcurrent of "I wonder what The Lex/Alex in NYC/Geir thinks of this". Are the opinions of the people actually contributing not good enough?

because they have extreme opinions innit. very defined criteria for liking things, tendency for over emphasis, good barometer for knowing what is hip with kids on buses etc

― pscott (elwisty), Saturday, 19 August 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Great review, Dom.

Just doing my job, m'am.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 August 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT IF THEY DID A COVER OF AN ART BRUT SONG, DOM???

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Saturday, 19 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Let's predict Pitchfork's No. 1 song of the '60s!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 August 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://bb02.sov.uk.vvhp.net/puppin/YaBB.pl?num=1188436210

"I bet he listens to rap"

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

NOW you're talking. this small fry has VICIOUS FINGERNAILS!

― Just got offed, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

ya burnt!

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

they will hunt you down and flay you

― Just got offed, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

priceless! and kudos for whoever decided Dom should write that review.

― StanM, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

this is surely grounds for notability on wikipedia.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Reviewers often are mistaken and simply give their personal dislikes an airing, I read a review of Betcha Bottom Dollar which was ok but the reviewer said betcha bottom dollar there wont be a second album I am going to send her a copy of the new album and remind her of her words because like most reviewers she was wrong

Ding ding! Round 2...

― Just got offed, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I ain't gonna be getting any faux-vintage dressed tail for a long, long time now.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

I did look him up and his influences include backstreet boys, half man half biscuit and will young!!! not that I am slating these artists but if you wrote an article about this mans taste on the back of a stamp there would be still be some room left.

― DJ Mencap, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

So not only is he ill-informed and incorrect, but he also has poor grammar and atrocious spelling.

Troglodite is the perfect word! Must remember to use it more often.....

A+

― Just got offed, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ winner

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone posting there seems really young, which I find odd

― DJ Mencap, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

they even know what you look like.

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

did you get hatemail on myspace?

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

Under-13s are banned from Myspace so no.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

So are you going to register at the sisters' forum and respond to your haters, Dom? Maybe you already have, I dunno, I couldn't be arsed to read more than one page.

This band would be loads better if they based their schtick on this 1943 musical clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTIgbXtRW4I

(watch it all the way through, it's holy fuck awesome near the end.)

― Pashmina, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

The poor man was probably once really hurt by a close harmony singer

― onimo, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

owned.

― Pashmina, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

funny cos it's true

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 24 September 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

I dont mean to sound harsh but looking at his picture he should be the last person to dog some one about their looks.

Well done on the not-sounding-harsh thing. (best thing about that quote Onimo posted is that it appears to actually come from a Puppini Sister)

― ailsa, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

I can bring all sorts of nasty chemicals to BURN HIM with - my chemistry teacher is very good about letting us have chemicals to take home............... hehe

― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

Intro:
So if anyting it dead, or don't...BLAZE!!!
Burn dem out! (True) burn dem out!!! (True)
Burn dem ouuuttt!!! (True)
Mi burn dem out, mi burn dem out

Chorus:
What they do, is not what they say
And now I never stray, I burn dem everyday, yeah!
What they do, is not what they say
And now I have to pray, I burn dem everyday, yay!

Verse 1:
Well dem could a neva break mi heart dem could a neva train mi thought
Dem couldn't stop di fire weh mi burn from start
Could a neva break mi heart dem could a neva train mi thought
Just blaze up di fire mek dem scorch
Yo! Brainwash education wid dem mental shocks
Intellects from society and non diplomats
Well all dem promote is just coke and crack
Pon a innocent life di whole a dem a try stop
Wid yuh nurses and yuh docs, yuh soldiers and yuh cops
Yuh churches and yuh synagogues di whole a dem a go flop
Dem a wait pon di body dem fi put inna di box
A wait pon di body deh fi put inna di vault
But a Emperor Selassie seh di alms house fi sotp
Well life mi promote soget it straight to di top
A hail King Selassie non stop!!! Emperor Selassie I Blaze!!!

Chorus:

Bridge:
Burn dem out!!! (True) burn dem out!!! (True)
Burn dem ouuttt!!! (True)
Mi burn dem out, mi burn dem out

Verse 2:
Well what kind a orda dem a walk weh inna yuh chest
Yuh leff di whole a di ghetto yute dem inna di stress
Do yuh ever feel di pain, do yuh ever feel di stress
Do yuh ever wonda if dem get a good night bless
Do yuh ever wonda if dem grow wid a little etiquette
Yuh wonda how dem wear a pants or a dress
Instead, inna nuclear yuh a invest
Yute a rush rental inna stop manifest

Chorus:

Outro:
Burn dem out!!! (True) burn dem out!!! (True)
Burn dem ouuttt!!! (True)
Mi burn dem out, mi burn dem out
Burn dem out!!! (True!) burn dem out!!! (True!)
Burn dem ouuttt!!! (True)
Mi burn dem out, mi burn dem out
Burn dem out!!! burn dem out!!!
Burn dem ouuttt!!!
Mi burn dem out, mi burn dem out..

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

They should cover that.

― Dom Passantino, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

The info I found out about him was that he is widely despised

― aldo, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

Puppini Sisters fans = Clarkson fans = Boris Johnson fans

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 24 September 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Did they make a new album then?

― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, thankfully it bombed.

God, looking that up reminded me that they'd covered/butchered "Tu Vuoi Fare L'Americano". Ick ick ick.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

We should just be thankful then that they never got on parky. Did they get on the Paul O'Grady Show?

― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

Nah, Pink Martini did though.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

Top 3 wrongness on this thread:

3. Kate StClaire's FEMINISM4U
2. Ellison, generally.
1. Jagger saying that "Babycakes" was a bad song

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Top 1 wrongness on this thread:

1. Passatino saying that Jagger saying that "Babycakes" was a bad song was a wrongness.

― m the g, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

the worst thing ever is the gis results for

krokodil drug

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

The only way their hackneyed regressive ballless soulless 1940s shit would be anything less than the worst thing since AIDS is if they employed a "No blacks no dogs no Irish" policy at their gigs.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, August 1, 2006 9:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is mean! i hope this guy doesn't post here anymore! http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

― past life utah saints (dave cool), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

heyoooooooooo. I was expecting something to do with puppies when I opened this thread.

― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

this is mean! i hope this guy doesn't post here anymore!

i can totally see this not getting old in any way

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

the worst thing ever is the gis results for

krokodil drug

die die die die die

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

without, you know, actually dying or anything

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 22:38 (fourteen years ago)

this is mean! i hope this guy doesn't post here anymore!

you think that's mean just wait another 48 hours or so

― Dear Projectionist (blueski), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

prosper.strummer.

― buzza, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

I found and proved it.
The worst song ever made.
1987.
The Utensils.
"The Beastie Boy Wrap"
A 12" released on Erika Records, based in Lakewood, California.
An anti-Beastie Boys song that was a parody rap song about how little talent you need to be the Beastie Boys or be a music star.
The music was the most banal midi beatbox creation ever made. The jokes were even worse.
And there were no less than SIX REMIXES on the single.
I wasted my measly dollar on this 12" single (and CARRIED IT back home no less!) so people who claim that Powersource's "Dear Mr. Jesus" and Lee Greenwood's "God Bless The USA" are the worst songs ever would be running to cower underneath these songs for their relative warmth and brilliance, much less the genius of anything mentioned in this thread so far.
― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:01 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR THIS.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)

nine years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUyyA12sdwc

― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 03:01 (three years ago)

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