It's the new year in Japan -- into the pit once more!
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
you're always in a rush to start this
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOTE HERE for ILX METAL ALBUMS OF 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!! (non-metal thread regulars welcome. Everyones welcome to vote, please join in!) Voting Ends Jan 17.YOUTUBE companion thread to the Metal Albums of 2009 Poll
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=selfqEH-JnY
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
is there some sort of metal poll going on?
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
Ha ha. Awesome. There are some amazing fan videos of the 'Child song, with horses, that like actually change colour and shit.
― Doran, Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
I have heard fleeting whispers of one in the dark and eldritch passages that man has forgotten, but those who have attempted to explore the arcane mysteries of the poll have all been driven mad... those who made it back at all, that is.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
well you didn't like the "british" talk in the other thread.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
that song is kinda kickass, makes me wanna ride a motorbike -_-
― that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
New Mnemic album, Sons of the System, is vastly superior than the abortion that was their last record. Still sub-Fear Factory rhythmic industrial, but they ditched the nu-metal this time around. Speaking of, has anyone heard the new Fear Factory yet? I'm pretty psyched for that one.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
I have the new Fear Factory and new Mnemic albums, but it's hard to get excited about either, their last ones were such colossal disappointments.
Two that I'm really into right now are the new ones by Ihsahn and Shining. Norwegian prog/jazz Shining, not Swedish suicidal black metal Shining. Coincidentally, Jorgen from said Shining plays a very prominent role on the Ihsahn record with some terrific sax solos.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that new Ihsahn record is great. Here's my AMG review. I liked the Shining disc okay, but didn't love it.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago)
wow, sax solos. does ihsahn cover "baker street"? or maybe "harden my heart". that would be way cool.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
whoa wait the new Shining is nearly out? STOKED! opening track of 'Grindstone' made my top 23 songs of the decade! hopefully this one lives up to it. not sure it's metal tho
― that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
Their cover of "20th Century Schizoid Man" is something this band was born to do, I just love it.
And yeah, Ihsahn's record is is strongest to date. Talked to him a couple weeks ago, he's an interesting fella. Nice guy.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 31 December 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
Phil, your review makes me wanna hear that Isahn disc.
And now back to 2010--the year of Ludicra!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 31 December 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
I'm excited for the Fear Factory because they now have Dino back along with Strapping Young Lad's rhythm section.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
I didn't know Hoglan's on the new one...nice!
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 31 December 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Hoglan's always looking for the next paycheck, eh?
― Nate Carson, Friday, 1 January 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
ian christe has put out a big fat hellhammer/celtic frost book you can buy me:
http://www.bazillionpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/onlydeathisreal.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:19 (fifteen years ago)
me wants
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 1 January 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)
Will be buying this to go on my shelf next to his other books.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 1 January 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah!
― the not-fun one (Ioannis), Friday, 1 January 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit, where can i get that immediately
also AYO NEW YORK DUDES come see me play doom/black metal tomorrow night?? will buy 1 beer for yuns. 2010 is gonna kick so much ass. i just quit my job for the sake of metal btw
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
oh woops i mean day after tomorrow - that is the 4th. at a place called Lit in downtown manhattan iirc
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Saturday, 2 January 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
I'll book your Portland show ;)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 3 January 2010 02:44 (fifteen years ago)
ok, when?
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
Well, if you're going to play in Portland, you have to do an LA date.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
none of us do jobs or anything normal anymore so i mean
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 January 2010 07:54 (fifteen years ago)
ma i met "grim kim" of terrorizer and general awesomeness last night, and she was like "oh u know c0smo l33?" and i was like "yeah" and she was like "you know all these critics -- do you know KSP????" it made me lol
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 January 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ "ma", i was not referring to yall as maternal figures, i meant to say "man", fwiw
For a Portland gig I need 3-5 months notice and a link to your myspace tunes. And if you have an EPK with Sonicbids I will automatically take you less seriously ;)
― Nate Carson, Monday, 4 January 2010 10:47 (fifteen years ago)
lol, not in this band
http://www.myspace.com/argentinumastrum
consider this your 3-5 months notice
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 4 January 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
Man this Ihsahn record is amazing. Hell of a way to kick off 2010.
― Sonic Bum, Monday, 4 January 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
The guy who did the Axxis album cover from last year strikes again!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6IxeL1PRYH4/SuumiBSEYiI/AAAAAAAABSs/Gdk6SpGINEc/s400/Heavenly+-+Carpe+Diem+by+Eneas.jpg
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder if that chick on the right is the same one that was wielding the flame whip?
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Nice southern sludge Roxy. Pick a date, I'll hold it.
You're playing bass?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
J3ff -- I think those are both the same chick, right? I wonder if he's doing a blue-skinned Avatar version of that cover for Japan?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
I think they are supposed to be different, but I don't think he's very good at making the faces look different. It's possible that it's the same model. In which case, she's about to make out with herself... which is just kind of weird.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)
maybe each is a different aspect of the same person and they are reconciling by making lusty tongue faces at each other
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 4 January 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)
― Sonic Bum, Monday, January 4, 2010 8:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah I'm feeling this a lot - he has turned into, idk, a metal version of Barry Adamson or something. Walks a v v corny tightrope but is fully upright as far as my ears can tell me
― Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
Was there any discussion of the Nokturnal Mortum record "The Voice of Steel" in the '09 thread? (I think it came out late '09; I still can't find a version of the album with English-translated titles, so it may not have worldwide distro yet.) If so, I apologize for bringing it up here, and for any redundancy, but man it is a MONSTER. I resist even using the words "folk-metal" because they totally destroy any of my old associations with that term, but yes, there are strings and synths and Ukranian folk elements. But it's insanely brutal and epic and expansive and even catchy. Can't say enough. Thing absolutely destroys.
― Sonic Bum, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, will check that one out. sounds good.
pulled out my copy of DHG supervillian outcast the other night. the rob zombies of black metal. fun!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
nate -
yes, bass
ill be in touch
― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
Was just doing some quick research for a preview of the upcoming Behemoth tour and found this hilarious Nergal stalker video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k4wBw9pVBo
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 7 January 2010 02:25 (fifteen years ago)
hahahahaha!!!
― original bgm, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:37 (fifteen years ago)
also, I guess metal guys have it easier in every conceivable way in europe, huh? not too many metal dudes in the USA w/model gf's I imagine.
― original bgm, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:39 (fifteen years ago)
I love how the song really kicks in to photos of them running on a beach
― original bgm, Thursday, 7 January 2010 03:43 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, someone at MSN Music must have linked my blog post on the Soundgarden reunion to the main page, because folks were just lining up to call me a dick: Check it out. I love the Internet.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 7 January 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Through The Eyes Of The Dead right now and just not hearing anything new. Borrowed riffs, standard-issue attitude, the same ol' typewriter drums...how is anyone supposed to be excited about this album, this band, this genre? Even when I try to take the standard metal-fan approach of appreciating tiny incremental change within an overall landscape of structural sameness, there's just nothing here for me to grab onto and say, "Okay, this is Through The Eyes Of The Dead's unique little patch of ground that enables me to tell them apart from their peers and appreciate their contribution to the metal gestalt in 2010."
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
dear phil, im sorry that you couldnt write about a stupid band, like your fav one, Airsupply, or something along that line.
ya burnt
― Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
I love this Shining album. I mean, it automatically sounds slightly dated because of the industrial element to it but man alive, it's so exciting.
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
And the reissue of the three Summer Sessions albums by Causa Sui. Danes in flares on acid.
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
hey, i finally got around to falling in love with the Avenger album, Feast of Anger, Joy of Despair which J0hn liveblogged on the 2009 thread. Thanks for another great recommendation, dude.
It took a few listens for this album to really sink in, but now that it has, I can't seem to listen to anything else. The first song is flat out amazing - I almost wish it would go on for another minute or two at the end instead of fading out so quickly. it struck me on the train this morning that you could actually dance to a lot of the songs on this album - I don't mean manic mosh pit stuff, but like some kind of actual dance, maybe around a big fire or something. The drummer is great, I will never get sick of slow tempo double-kick style playing, and the kettle drum things, though overbearing at times, really add a lot of atmosphere and uniqueness to their sound. I love the way the vocals sound: blackened with a touch of reverb and delay on them. and then the rhythm guitar playing - maybe I'm high but some of the chord progressions almost remind me of stuff George Lynch might come up with if he were in a black/death band. J0hn is way better at explaining the appeal of this than I am, so if you missed his posts on this, click my link to his post. Did anyone else ever get around to listening to this? I haven't checked the best of 2009 threads, but this should definitely be on there.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah, I meant to check out that avenger album but promptly forgot!
― original bgm, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Air Supply's best songs are way better than the best Soundgarden tunes.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 7 January 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
well, half the time I'm with you on this kinda thought, and the other half I'm like: is it really your position that the point of metal is Make It New a la the Imagists or whoever? like, I dig Coffins. Coffins are breaking exactly zero new ground. But that's cool, because the ground they're working is awesome.
― Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Friday, 8 January 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
I love Coffins too. But even when they're doing their most old-school-Swedish grinding, I can tell them apart from, say, Grave. Same way I can tell Grave from Unleashed from Entombed even though they're all working off the same template - they do little things that reflect the desire to be recognized as individual creative spirits. But TTEOTD don't do that. They are totally indistinguishable from, say, Whitechapel or Suicide Silence.
I think a lot of it has to do with modern studio techniques, honestly - with digital recording and drum triggers and such it's possible to walk in and tell the producer/engineer "make me sound like Band X" and if you punch in the right codes, you can sound exactly like Band X. When you're working with live instruments in a room and recording to tape with air between you and the microphones, there are too many variables for ultra-precise cloning to take place.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 8 January 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
xpost: glad you dig coffins, j0hn. got the impression you weren't much of a fan from some old posts. the other side of blasphemy is such a hugely satisfying listen every time I throw it on.
and yeah, digital recording/drum triggers/etc. - that stuff is easily one of my least favorite things about modern metal. nothing against these techniques per se and I honestly don't know a hell of a lot about it all... but the antiseptic drum sounds, bass mixed down so low that you wonder why they even bothered someone in (tbh this really isn't anything new and is maybe my least favorite thing about metal now that I think about it), coupled with some dude yelling at you for an hour just makes this stuff exhausting to listen to. and not in a br00tal way, either. it's just so tedious.
― original bgm, Friday, 8 January 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
oh man I am sorry to have given that impression. they kind of slay. I mean, it's fun to point out that they're not reinventing the wheel, but I'll take their brand of derivative over any dozen bedroom black-metallers.
― Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Friday, 8 January 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
yeah <3 coffins.
and on modern production: meshuggah are one of my favorite bands and you could throw a lot of those same complaints at them too. so, this is something I'm willing to tolerate if I like the material. but it makes the generic bands sound so, so generic. and how awesome would it be if meshuggah put out an album that sounded like mental funeral? man, it would be totally awesome! (but they never will, of course.)
― original bgm, Friday, 8 January 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit this avenger album! love when they morph into moonsorrow on the second track.
― original bgm, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
opening riff on the album is killer. that one-two, strumming up, strumming down one note thing (while one guitar keeps strumming the same note the whole time if I'm hearing this right) is something I'm a sucker for.
― original bgm, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
love the acoustic build to the riff that kicks off the (awesome) penultimate track.
― original bgm, Friday, 8 January 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
good news..
New Rosetta record, "A Determinism of Morality", goes to mastering next Mondayhttp://twitter.com/rosettaband/status/7413450005
― djmartian, Friday, 8 January 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
Totally agree with Phil on Through the Eyes of the Dead. I've listened to their last one and the new one, and they are about as middle-of-the-road as you get. Competent, thoroughly uninteresting. You don't have to be original to be enjoyable (I really liked the Mr. death record from last year), but mediocrity is mediocrity no matter how you slice it.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Friday, 8 January 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
Cobalt on Fox News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzrTKbEhDE
― Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)
he's like boyd rice 2.0. a younger more deadly boyd. all that stuff about lions and the overman and excess. and the olde-tyme neo-folk album cover.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
just hope he doesn't go on a shooting spree...
― scott seward, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
Is that a picture of Hemingway on the cover?
― the return of (ksmokehighway), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)
oh, probably! i never even noticed.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)
I always assumed it was, given the inside artwork.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
Yes, that's Hemingway in his Red Cross Ambulance Corps uniform.
― Brad C., Friday, 8 January 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
lol someone needs to make an animated gif of those anchors listening to that Cobalt clip.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 8 January 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
Great stuff...they actually did a nice job with the interview.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
I interviewed Erik Wunder while McSorley was on a tour of duty in Baghdad and he was rolling stupid fruity swag drunk is what he was.
He was amazing. I only had to do a 500 word piece but I had to interview him for ages because he'd just want to talk about other stuff. I'd ask him about blacked metal and he'd say 'Hey man, do you like 'Empires and Dance' by Simple Minds? I love that record.' Then I'd ask him about war metal and he'd start telling me about how he'd just seen a guy drive a car into the front of his house trying not to hit a fox in the road. And when I asked him what being in Cobalt was about he said: 'Being in Cobalt is about being the kind of man who stays up all night drinking gin, reading Hemmingway, smoking cigarettes and writing stuff on typewriters.' Then he started having an argument with someone about a cigarette lighter and then made me stay on the phone and talk to him about Killing Joke for an hour while he got even more blasted.
What a guy.
― Doran, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, so "cobalt" refers to gun bluing. I don't think shooting spree is as big a danger as suicide pact after erectile dysfunction diagnosis. Death before dishonor, Levitra.
― bendy, Monday, 11 January 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
Jeff, I finally got around to hearing the Mnemic album, and you're right, this is so much better than that atrocious last album. This one seems to be more on par with The Audio Injected Soul, which I really dug in 04.
And the new Dillinger is good. My initial reaction was, 'not as great as the last three albums,' but every DEP record needs time to settle in.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 11 January 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
Holy fucking shit folks, this new High On Fire album is their masterpiece (Blessed Black Wings comes in a close second). Absolutely crushing and epic (most songs run 6-8 minutes). Plus it sounds incredible; I'm willing to call Greg Fidelman the best producer in metal right now.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
I was like really excited before, now I'm practically frothing at the mouth to hear it!
Anxious for the new Dillinger as well.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
Holy fucking shit folks, this new High On Fire album is their masterpiece (Blessed Black Wings comes in a close second)
is there somebody I can write to to get it? I am in a big High on Fire kick right now
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)
Publicist is Carl Schultz at Action PR - carl at action dash pr dot com.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)
YES! Can't wait to hear this! Should be getting this in a day or two.
― Doran, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, it's early in the year but the HoF is AOTY caliber, without a doubt. Better than the new Dillinger. Less prog & acoustic touches, and a lot more gigantic riffs.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
Fewer prog and acoustic touches...forgive my murdering the Queen's English.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, you Canadians do love your queen.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
Generally DEP are more up my alley than HoF, but I'm stoked at the prospect of both. Then again I thought Ire Works was DEP's best record yet but Communion was a step below Wings.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:07 (fifteen years ago)
pretty much nothing is better than blessed black wings imo
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:12 (fifteen years ago)
^^^true statement. tho you guys are getting me excited because i sincerely want this to be better than communion
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)
I thought Ire Works was DEP's best record yet but Communion was a step below Wings.
Totally agree with both halves of this statement.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 02:23 (fifteen years ago)
I still think Art of Self Defense is their best but I'm more than willing to give the new one consideration after Carl sends it to me. Thanks for the tip Phil! :)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 07:09 (fifteen years ago)
I just think there's no such thing as a bad HoF album. But yeah, the new one does make Communion sound a little inferior.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)
accidents very much in character, starring Weedeater
― the chance to act like a drunken whore (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)
http://qcjeph.livejournal.com/112588.html
Parts of this list irritate, but High On Fire is the really hot girl you have sex with occasionally if you're both single and it's always rad and there's never any drama
― bendy, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)
Dude seems to have forgotten to do an analogy for the Momus one?
― the chance to act like a drunken whore (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A43JOxLa5MM
― Brad C., Wednesday, 13 January 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
i was hoping someone would post that. rooster rules, better than 90% of willowtip vocalists.
― Early Tuesday morning, a distraught Tequila tweeted (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
^if this is true, its fucking incredible
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
whoa. these raves are getting me seriously psyched for this.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
It's interesting how everyone seems to have a different favorite HOF. I flip between their 2nd and 4th. Gotta love the cover.
http://action-pr.com/uploads/art/203/HIGH%20ON%20FIRE_Snakes_for_the_Divine_album_cover.jpg
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 14 January 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
Jan 19 Sigh - Scenes From HellFeb 23 High On Fire - Snakes Of The DivineMar 23 Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis
What else are we excited about with a solidish release date? Some good shows coming too, despite Slayer/Megadeth/Testament being postponed. Pentagram & Gates Of Slumber, Kreator, Voivod & Nachtmystium, Orphaned Land & Indian, Finntroll, Moonsorrow & Swallow the Sun.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 15 January 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
Does anyone have any of those Most Anticipated Metal Albums lists that they can post here? I generally crib on them through the year (like from Terrorizer, Decibel, etc) to figure out what to check out.
(Somewhat related: Anyone here an Arsis fan? Just got a copy of Starve for the Devil.)
― Mordy, Friday, 15 January 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)
kinda on the fence about arsis. didn't love "we are the nightmare" but it had its moments. haven't listened to starve for the devil yet but I think that's one of the best album titles I've ever seen.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Friday, 15 January 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)
I'm too sleepy to listen to it now, but I'll tell you guys how I like it tomorrow.
― Mordy, Friday, 15 January 2010 10:16 (fifteen years ago)
Some people won't be too crazy about Arsis's current hypertechnical/traditional heavy metal direction, but it sure appeals to me.
I find the new Orphaned Land, mentioned a couple posts back, to be a big disappointment, paling in comparison to Mabool.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 15 January 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)
Hey guys , sorry to go on about it , but its the last couple of days to vote on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOTE HERE for ILX METAL ALBUMS OF 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!! (non-metal thread regulars welcome. Everyones welcome to vote, please join in!) Voting Ends Jan 17. so if you're still to vote and wish to do so then please follow the instructions on the thread, lurkers welcome as well as regulars.Hope to start the results on Sunday night/Monday (uk time)
Also if anyone would like to write some blurbs please email me at the same address as for voting.
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 January 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)
could just be the brevity at work, but I really liked arsis' a diamond for disease ep (the one with the alice cooper cover). but nothing else has ever really clicked.
will still give the new one a shot.
― original bgm, Friday, 15 January 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
The new Orphaned Land leaked? I've been really looking forward to it.
― Mordy, Friday, 15 January 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know much about metal beyond Metallica, who used to be my favorite band, but I'd like to get into it more. So far, I've picked up the most recent Mastodon record and a few black metal records after reading some stuff on an ILM thread or two.
To that end, could someone tell me what are considered the "reputable" metal magazines, sites, and blogs? I don't know anything about the critical discourse surrounding the genre, so if someone could tell me what the big publications are, and which of those are the best, that would be very helpful.
― kshighway (ksh), Friday, 15 January 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
Decibel, for sure. Quite a few regulars in these threads write for it. Pretty much the only music magazine that is a must read every issue.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1XqcOYRl1Kc/S1CxJgW1jbI/AAAAAAAAAOc/9O53kRRSAPc/s1600/cover.jpg
We should make a cover thread like those autogoon guys have.
― Mordy, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:07 (fifteen years ago)
I think Revolver is a terrible magazine, but their site is fairly informative. Blabbermouth is basically a high-volume fire hose of information, but they publish every press release anyone sends them so weeding through it all winds up being a waste of time.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
This months Terrorizer's 2010 Anticipated albums are :EyehategodCaïnaAtheistCoffinwormWatainEnforcerPig DestroyerPrimordialCenturions GhostTurisasMetsatollLeng Tch'eEnslavedRinoaTrap ThemToxic HolocaustSalomeTotal Fucking DestructionTriptykon (tom g warrior)Hour Of PenanceThe MireLandmine MarathonGorgutsAlcest
― Pfunkboy : The Dronelord vs The Girly Metal Daleks (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
I knew you'd come through for me!
― Mordy, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
xpost
Thanks, jon /via/ chi 2.0! Can't believe a one-year subscription is only ~$20. I'm thinking of subscribing.
And thanks, unperson! I'll check out the Revolver site and Blabbermouth.
There were also some good recommendations in this thread: Metal critics or criticism? Best metal writers?
― kshighway (ksh), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, new eyehategod! had not even realized that they were playing again.
― original bgm, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
and decibel is solid. not a bad way to familiarize yourself with the genre.
and if you really want to dive into the deep end, oakenthrone is an awesome zine. very well designed, thoughtful articles. pick up a few back issues if you're curious.
― original bgm, Friday, 15 January 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
In terms of entertainment hours per dollar spent, a Decibel subscription yields insane ROI.
― Brad C., Friday, 15 January 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously, thats what I love about Decibel the most. The monthly articles that usually equate to nothing more than filler in other mags are some of the best, most dependable reads!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 January 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
true. the "album of the month" thing is always a good read. I just wish that they would axe the 1 page features on bands and have more long articles.
― original bgm, Friday, 15 January 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
i think oaken throne is done. one of the dudes that did it now has this very odd format thing called rape & honey. i just got the second issue, which is nothing but an 8-page essay on funeral mist. it rules.
― adam, Friday, 15 January 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
They're also touring. They're playing Dublin in April; a good friend of mine is a big fan from way back and I'm sure he'll be propping up the bar for that one.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 15 January 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
Also: Bolt Thrower are playing here in May! We've had a live metal shortage here as of late (something to do with some shady promoters screwing over bands that invest a lot of time/money to get here) so this is a good turn-up for the books.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 16 January 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the AFCGT album from Sub Pop. The label described them as "Drooling Hillbilly Metal, Sea Urchin Psychedelia, Yukon Freak Thrash, and Beatnik Swamp Drone," and that sounded super cool to me. Anyway, I'm kinda digging the album.
― Mordy, Monday, 18 January 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I lke the AfCGT, tho' other than the tracks with Erin Sullivan's signature *krwrangz* guitar tone, not too metallic or punk. It reminds me a lot of Butthole Surfers and the avant parts of Mothers of Invention. Those heavy tracks are great skronk though.
― bendy, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)
Following up on the anticipated albums lists, here are Decibel's 25: Anthrax, Atheist, Cretin, Darkthrone, Dillinger, Dimmu Borgir, Down, Electric Wizard, Fear Factory, Genghis Tron, Hate Eternal, High on Fire, Holy Grail, Intronaut, Ludicra, Meshuggah, Nachtmystium, Origin, Pig Destroyer, Salome, the Sword, Torche.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 04:32 (fifteen years ago)
Another Origin album? Unless it's as good as their first, it'll be a snoozefest.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
Antithesis was the first of theirs I'd heard and I really liked it, apparently I should go back to the others.
And Adrien, thanks for the e-mail. Much appreciated!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
The first Origin is amazing, it's got a real solid groove that's absent from the others to my ears.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)
Anthrax, Atheist, Cretin, Darkthrone, Dillinger, Dimmu Borgir, Down, Electric Wizard, Fear Factory, Genghis Tron, Hate Eternal, High on Fire, Holy Grail, Intronaut, Ludicra, Meshuggah, Nachtmystium, Origin, Pig Destroyer, Salome, the Sword, Torche
Heard the Dillinger; can't judge it yet. Heard the High on Fire; it's awesome. Got the Fear Factory yesterday; not all that excited, to be frank. Looking forward to Atheist, Dimmu, Intronaut, Meshuggah, Nachtmytsium, Pig Destroyer, the Sword. Don't really expect the Anthrax album to come out.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
The new one by Apostle of Solitude sounds fantastic so far. If you like the Gates of Slumber, Candlemass, and Solitude Aeternus, you'll love this. I'd even go as far as to say they have a better sense of melody than Gates.
http://www.myspace.com/apostleofsolitude
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)
Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR (Century Media) Jan 25 Europe [Feb 9 US]
This seems to be quite an event. They're doing a good job promoting it on their site and Myspace at least. Anyone order a signed deluxe copy? Tempting, but it's $30.http://www.orphaned-land.com/shop.php
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)
Well, considering all their other CDs are $25 without being signed (at least on that link), can't say its too much more.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)
So excited for that album. Didn't someone on this thread say they've already heard it?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking of Orphaned Land, couple great shows coming to the Bottom Lounge in Chicago this March - Orphaned Land, Indian, and A Storm of Light one night and Kreator, Voivod, Nachtmystium, Evile, and Lazarus AD two nights before.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
March metal madness!
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
The Orphaned Land album turned out to be quite a big disappointment, at least for me. It goes through a lot of the same motions as Mabool, but is far too overbearing, and aside from "Sapari" and a couple other tracks, lacks the charm of that record.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
Really disappointed that I was feeling sick and had to miss the Behemoth show in Seattle last night. Anyone on the list make it?
I've been listening to the new Rotting Christ album for a review. It's one of those bands that I'm not sure if I should take seriously or not. There's so many silly elements that creep into the mix that I am wont to dismiss it.
― Antoine Doinel, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
I've got a profile of Behemoth in the Cleveland Scene this week; here's the link if you're interested.
Currently listening to Wolvhammer, a quartet from Minnesota who do a noisy, shrieky black-death-punk-thrash thing that's a little bit Hellhammer, a little bit grindcore, and, somewhat more weirdly, a little bit Samhain. You can download both their self-released EPs at wolvhammer.blogspot.com, and they're working with Sanford Parker on a full-length, so that could be something worth hearing.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
Whoops; that Behemoth link's no good. Here 'tis.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
ok must investigate this wolvhammer thing, i live here and have never heard of them
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
That Wolvhammer description sounds good, dling the EPs right now.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
whoa had a very creeped out phear that they were some sort of NS stuff there (the working class masthead and the logo echoing the h4mm3r sk1n5 insignia) but that can't be right can it?
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
listening to the stuff on the apostle of solitude myspace. was not into at first but am gradually being won over.
singer reminds me of the dude from only living witness, heh.
and wow, I really hate the cover(s) for their new record:
http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad295/astrocreep_ws6/PLore_Cover_LoRes.jpghttp://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad295/astrocreep_ws6/ELS_Cover_LoRes.jpg
more power to ya for not phoning it in w/something like a barbarian cutting an orc in half or whatever... but yuck.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:19 (fifteen years ago)
ok pretty sure that the wolvhammer dudes arent racists but jesus they need to change that image because its waaaaaayy too close to something that would be troubling to a whole lot of people (still freaks me out tbh)
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
ok, I had never heard of the h4mm3r sk1n5. just googled them and yikes. that wolvhammer logo has got to be a reference to the hs logo. right??
― original bgm, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
that is, logo coupled with the "working class" masthead that you mentioned
― original bgm, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)
on a more positive note, anyone heard this "new" buzzov*en thing? i had no idea it existed until wandering over to the decibel site to check out subscription options and seeing the masthead at the top
― DANGER: DO NOT EAT SHAMELESS DONG (jjjusten), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)
No bullshit Satanism or sensationalism, just pure honest hatred for religion, capitalism, politics, sheep mentality and typical human behaviour. We wanted to write simple, memorable, and truly hate-filled metal anthems for ourselves and all the other blue collar, working poor, and generally unsatisfied people who are looking for something raw and classic as soundtrackto rise up and fight the status quo around them in any way they see fit to do. Whether you decide to speak up or just completely turn your back on the world, this is for us and all the other people out there that know we've been lied too, and no matter what may have been promised, know that we're all still being lied too. There is no hope.
From another blog press release about Wolvhammer. Man, I don't know. There is some subtext in there that could go one of two ways, kinda hesitant to get on board with these guys just yet. Maybe I'm reading more into it than they intend.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
anyone heard this "new" buzzov*en thing
Have it, but haven't played it yet.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
I'm also reviewing the new Rotting Christ. I'm a fan of their Gothic blackened folk metal, but I could see how you could think that it's cheesy. Sometimes you just have to embrace it, though, especially when it's done this well.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)
The Rotting Christ album sounds awfully silly at times...I haven't decided whether I actually like it or not.
The new WOLD album, meanwhile, is nuts. Like Metal Machine Music if it was designed as an aural equivalent to William Burroughs' and Brion Gysin's Dreamachine. One thing I always like about WOLD albums is their lyrics, but this is an instrumental record, so there's no eloquent prairie poetry to fall back on. It's an intriguing listen, but also very trying, basically three heavily, heavily, heavily distorted & filtered loops over 35 minutes, the most abrasive stuff I have ever heard them do. The trancelike effect they're going for does kind of work, but wow, there aren't many people who would want to stomach this.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)
You like it. You know you do.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
I mean, when's the last time you heard panpipes on a metal album?
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
I'd revisit it but I'm in the middle of a 12 minute WOLD track that sounds like a field recording of a fully operational sawmill.
In hell!
Bleh. Fortress Crookedjaw, you've bitten off more than you can chew this time.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 21 January 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)
was sippin whiskey and listening to magma when I decided that I wanted something a little slower and lower. so, I threw on some neglected thou splits that I had lying around.
thou / leech cassette - leech side didn't impress. black metal demo city, whatever. thou side rules. two sludgy epics bookended by two effective mood-setters.
mohoram atta / thou lp - had never heard of mohoram atta before but they seem pretty killer. crusty his hero is gone-style metalcore (the good, 90s kind) with a bit of a black metal influence. awesome. thou side kicks off with an up-tempo track about two party system apathy. ("don't vote") kind of a bummer during these dark days of health care reform but the song is great. double bass and even some riffs that bring remission-era mastodon to mind. nice to see them stretch a bit. two sludgy songs follow (the second kinda drags) and their side finishes with a minor threat cover. ("screaming at the wall") apparently thou are also feminists. i'm into this.
― original bgm, Thursday, 21 January 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
I wrote about Wolvhammer on my MSN blog today... http://bit.ly/7aPXhg
I emailed a link to the band's publicist (who's a friend; she used to intern at/write for Metal Maniacs); I told her if the band wants to respond, I'll put that up too. Gotta wait and see.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)
Dawn of the 4th, The Black Marketeers of World War III...
― Thijs, Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe they and the hammerskins just really liked "The Wall."
Anyone refusing to buy Cobalt albums because the main guy is in the military? Who have, let's face it, killed a lot more people than Rob Darken or Nokturnal Mortum or even Varg?
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)
(I am guessing the Wolvhammer dudes - who are pretty good on that 2nd ep at least - are probably just edging on fascist imagery because it looks "cool" or whatever.)
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for putting that up there Phil, I'll be curious to see how it unfolds.
I think the dude from Cobalt is a completely different case. He comes from a sense of "duty" (however misguided and weird that may be to me) and not from a place of hatred. Big difference, imho. I see what you are inferring, but if that were the case I'd have to ignore quite a few of my relatives who've fought in various wars, I'm not going to do that. But I'd have no problem ignoring a racist uncle that spouted hateful shit.
Hopefully that makes sense, I'm still a little tired this morning.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:43 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't bought any Cobalt albums because Cobalt's music doesn't really do it for me, not because of some anti-military stance - my younger brother is an Army recruiter.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
That Thou / Leech cassette just got upgraded to vinyl I believe. Thou have a new tape split with a band called Faeries who I know nothing about. They are one of about four bands out there right now who I buy basically everything by on sight.
What label is the new Wold on Adrian?
― i swear on my life i feel so powerfull (musically) (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 January 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
He comes from a sense of "duty"
maybe so. but I did read an interview in decibel where the guy was going on about how man's natural place is the battlefield and he's never felt more in touch with himself and I thought, "well, that's kinda fucked up."
― original bgm, Thursday, 21 January 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
That Thou / Leech cassette just got upgraded to vinyl I believe.
yeah, I actually just saw that yesterday. gilead media are a u.s. distro that's stocking it and I just ordered it because I'm a sucker. not sure if it was because of my tape deck or what, but the sound was pretty poor on the cassette, so an upgrade in that dept would be cool.
― original bgm, Thursday, 21 January 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
have to say, I love the thou aesthetic. all those line drawings look badass.
― original bgm, Thursday, 21 January 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
Today's mailbag: new Skullflower 2CD on Neurot (not metal, but probably fun at high volume) and three reissues by 16-17, the greatest noise-jazz-doom trio you never heard.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
probably fun at high volume
can confirm this
― i swear on my life i feel so powerfull (musically) (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 January 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
it could be an age difference thing (i have no idea how young these dudes are), but i can guarantee you anybody involved the music scene in MN in the late 80's/early 90's is going to recognize that image immediately. First Avenue was a racist skin vs. anti-racist skin bloodbath most nights back then anytime something heavy came through.
frankly i am hoping to be wrong, but even if i am they are going to want to 86 that logo because i wont be the last dude to have an immediate reaction to it.
― LJ on the homeless (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 January 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
ahh, see, i didn't know the context there. i thought the hammerskins were a southern thing, so maybe they were unaware, but i guess not.
three reissues by 16-17, the greatest noise-jazz-doom trio you never heard.
are these the "16-17/hardkore & buffbunker," "when all else fails" and "gyatso" reissues, or are there yet more to come? great fucking band.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 21 January 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
are these the "16-17/hardkore & buffbunker," "when all else fails" and "gyatso" reissues
Yep. Ordered 'em from the label a week and a half ago or so, was wondering why it was taking so long and then I get 'em today and the envelope is stamped France. Whoops, my mistake.
Anyway, just got an email from Wolvhammer's publicist who says the band is 100% not racist, that she's contacted them for a response (which I will post on the blog as soon as I get it) and that she'll be issuing a press release herself. She also jabbed me on Twitter. I told her at the very least they need to get a new logo.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
Interesting stuff, Phil.
Oh and DJ, WOLD is still on Profound Lore.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
glad those dudes aren't racists
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad you approached it this way Phil, I hope no one gives you too much shit for it.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
ok thats great, sorry to stir the kettle, and yeah, you dealt with this about as well as anyone could.
― D@n P3rry is the drummer on Muse Sick-n-Hour Mess Age (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 January 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
is there a place like Boomkat for metal, where I can buy a bunch of new metal records in FLAC?
― kshighway (ksh), Thursday, 21 January 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
i doubt the band has a problem with a popular music writer trying to find out more about them
(xposts)
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 21 January 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
Wolvhammer: officially not racist.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
listening to the second demo in celebration
― original bgm, Thursday, 21 January 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the demos now that I can without feeling guilty, pretty good. Excited to hear what they bring on the full-length.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
Especially liking the ultra slow 9 minute track off the newer EP.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 January 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
striborg is so good the morning after your country's supreme court completely fucks up democracy forever.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 22 January 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
BLACK APPARITIONAL VOID indeed
Which record(s) of Striborg's are the best?
― kshighway (ksh), Friday, 22 January 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
they're all pretty much the same.... ha. but "embittered darkness/isle de morts" is easy to find (on southern lord) and is a good example of his style.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 22 January 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
Thank you!
― kshighway (ksh), Friday, 22 January 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)
all the thou talk--newish split w/ haarp, another awesome LA band: http://www.omgvinyl.com/2009/12/02/thou-haarp-reincarnation-prayer-7-ep/
thou side is pretty standard thou. haarp side pretty standard haarp. excellent all around. also, cheap and pretty and the packaging is terrific.
― adam, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
Just played ^that, can't argue w/ any of the above (esp cos this is the first time I'm hearing Haarp)
― the BIG MAN from the hilarious "Alan McGee" tweets (DJ Mencap), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/haarpnola
bands around here don't branch out much but when the basic sludgy formula is so effective why change etc. in other nola metal coverage thou got one of those one-page band feature things in decibel last month.
― adam, Friday, 22 January 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
we're in the top 5 now guys !!!!!!!! ILX METAL ALBUMS of 2009 POLL RESULTS!!!!!! (TOP TEN! LAST CHANCE TO DECRY FALSE METAL m/!)
come posts your thoughts! all non-voters and troo metal warriors welcome!!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 January 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
Went out to the Nokia Theater tonight.
Mutiny Within were pretty good power metal w/occasional DM vocals, somewhere between Trivium and DragonForce. They were kissing the audience's ass in a big way - "This next song is on our MySpace page, so check it out when you get home!"; "We're gonna be at the merch table all night after our set!" - and it seemed to work; they got a good round of applause despite going on at 7:30.
Arsis' new songs are like a cross between Arch Enemy and early Metallica; their tech-death back catalog stuff didn't fit that comfortably alongside stuff from the new album and We Are The Nightmare, and they only had a half hour anyway, so they didn't do much Willowtip-era material, but they did close with a ferocious version of "The Face of My Innocence." The problem was, their sound was all fucked up; their intro tape was louder than their actual set. The guitars were ridiculously quiet, the bass was inaudible, the background vocals were louder than Malone's vocals, the snare and bass drums sounded like typewriter keys, while the toms were thunderous. But they must have been getting a good monitor mix, because they didn't make any mention of it. So even with all of that, their set was really good, and the crowd dug them.
I left after that, though. I saw Exodus in 1990 and didn't care to see them again, and the prospect of watching Arch Enemy deliver an ultra-slick, totally efficient and professional 70 minutes of melodic death metal for the fourth time (I saw them in 2003, 2005 and 2007) just didn't get my blood pumping.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 23 January 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)
Heard the new Rob Zombie album last night too. It's shockingly good, and I say that as someone who put Educated Horses in my Top 100 of the decade. It's his most stripped-down, hard-rock album since White Zombie's Make Them Die Slowly. Sure, there are still movie dialogue samples, and keyboards on a couple of tracks, but the techno-metal sound he beat into the ground for a decade is almost totally gone. There are riffs that could have come off a Rose Tattoo album - John 5 is just killing it all over the disc, and the drums are played by a live human being. Know how you can tell? There's a five-minute drum solo at the end of the last song. Some of the songs are a little short, and they're almost always dumb, but his lyrics have always been empty-headed, so who cares? The exception, believe it or not, is "Werewolf, Baby," which isn't just a string of disconnected one-liners like his lyrics usually are - its a Danzig-esque tale of becoming a werewolf. Seriously, if you've written off Rob Zombie as just a clown who's maybe worth seeing live but not listening to at home, this album might change your mind. I thought he was moving to Roadrunner's Loud & Proud sub-label because he was tired of working and just wanted to coast for a few years before announcing his retirement from music, but if this is the album he's making his debut with, I don't know what to think.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 23 January 2010 14:15 (fifteen years ago)
New Hey Colossus on Riot Season is brilliant. They've really gone up a couple of gears with their new album Eurogrumble Vol 1.
― Doran, Saturday, 23 January 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)
Ohh i need to hear that.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 23 January 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
I was listening to the Rob Zombie album last night as well, and it's not too bad. The organic quality is definitely a change...I don't think all the songs are successes, the latter half tends to drag on, but stuff like "Sick Bubblegum", "Werewolf Baby", and "Burn" are definitely keepers.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 23 January 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
i love hey colossus! i wanna hear that. they need to tour here or something. they should be huge in the states.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 January 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)
Hey Colossus sounds like an awesome title for the upcoming Eurovision approved new style Keep of Kalessin album. Quite like the song actually, especially the dub-y bass bits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW3wU2fDc2o
― Thijs, Saturday, 23 January 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
A quick link to the full top 100 and a genre list breakdown!!!!!!!!! ILX METAL ALBUMS of 2009 POLL RESULTS!!!!!! (TOP TEN! LAST CHANCE TO DECRY FALSE METAL m/!)
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 23 January 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
http://stereogum.com/img/scionflyer.jpgp
And on the same page, here is Brandon Stosuy's latest interview with Aesop Dekker of Ludicra and Agalloch and Cosmic Hearse BLOG:
http://stereogum.com/archives/haunting_the_chapel/haunting_the_chapel_no_5_110691.html
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 24 January 2010 08:51 (fifteen years ago)
This post was supposed to come first:
http://stereogum.com/img/scionflyer.jpg
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 24 January 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)
Scion/backpacker metal.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 24 January 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)
has death metal rooster already gotten the necessary link here?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A43JOxLa5MM
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 25 January 2010 06:56 (fifteen years ago)
he seems so pissed off!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 January 2010 12:42 (fifteen years ago)
Here's a link to my interview with Ihsahn. The more I listen to his new album, the more I like it, and I am not an Emperor fan (and am not all that fervent about his last two solo discs either, though angL is enjoyable enough). I may have two spots already reserved on my 2010 Top Ten, with this and the new High on Fire.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 25 January 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
I hate artwork like this but I bet you all love it
http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=695
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 25 January 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)
What's not to love? Skulls! Reminds me of Prague’s Kutna Hora Bone Church.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dDr7EN_SR4&feature=player_embedded
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 25 January 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
Sorry, don't mean to mislead anyone who'd look for it in Prague -- it's actually quite a ways east of Prague, towards the middle of the country.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 25 January 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
totally. what do you mean "like this," kerr?
― original bgm, Monday, 25 January 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
I'm finishing up my first listen to Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way Of ORwarriOR, and I like it. Good review from Angry Metal Guy: http://www.angrymetalguy.com/?p=1018
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 25 January 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
I don't like it, I find it a bit of a mess. That narration just grated on me the more I heard it, and aside from three or four tracks, the songs just weren't as good as on the last album.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 25 January 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
So I've been listening to new stuff by Swedish band Kongh...epic doom, very similar to YOB without being too much of a rip-off. Needless to say, I like:
http://www.myspace.com/kongh
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)
listening to more Helcaraxe this morning, their 2007 album Triumph and Revenge. This is a seriously great band, I would guess that a lot of rolling metal regulars would dig them. kind of like a more Nordic-inspired Mastadon maybe? epic songs, melodic guitar-slinger progressions, pick-up-change fast parts but broad sweeping slow parts...maybe we already talked about these guys but anyway I got hip to them in December off a split with Father Befouled on Enucleation (which is incredible) and got the rest of their stuff -- I would be really surprised if people didn't dig them. Maybe they're known already I don't know but I had completely missed them and they kind of rule.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:48 (fifteen years ago)
streaming this on myspace now...it's pretty good tho i wish i liked the singer better.
btw john my copy of that avenger cd you were on about last year finally showed up from amazon yesterday; holy hell did it sound great blasting in my car last night.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the singing on helcaraxe isn't so inspiring but the riffs overtake it it. stoked you love the avenger album - every time I listen to it I'm like, it's so awesome when a metal album is really like a long voyage someplace
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
I'm listening to Avenger right now. for some reason this and Ruins of Beverast's Foulest Semen of a Sheltered Elite have been on nonstop rotation for the last two weeks.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)
the father befouled side of that split on enucleation rules so hard. i like the helcaraxe too but the father befouled shit is kind of dubby and shambling and fascinating. extra points for band name.
― adam, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
sorry about shambling. terrible word choice.
father befouled is an a+ name
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the fb stuff is great too just like you describe - cavernous, weird, "out." you should really check out that '07 helcaraxe record tho, it is just a solid, immersive listen.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)
def. in the meantime i am all over this enoid 10". swiss, apparently? decently recorded drums go a long way in helping me distinguish one particular tinny buzzing black metal record from all its brothers. don't know if the drumming qua drumming is any shake just that i can actually hear/feel them.
― adam, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
listening now and I'm digging the father befouled myspace tracks. I've been giving the (awesome) cremation (can) flames of an elite age '94 demo a lot of play recently and fb actually square pretty well with them. both def fit the "cavernous, weird, and and 'out' bill. (cremation moreso)
― original bgm, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
My favorite metal blog just posted the "Worship Black Twilight" comp, which has prompted me to start listening to that all over again. Really loose, crazy stuff. Ashdautas and Volahn stand out in particular, though I think a lot of it is the same pool of musicians in different line-ups.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
Enoid sounding pretty damn good right now.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Waiting three hours for a phoner because the publicist told the manager and me both that it was supposed to happen at 3:30 except I'm in NJ and they're in L.A. So I'm revisiting White Zombie's Make Them Die Slowly. Wow, is it awful. Sure, they're partly to blame for not writing any songs, but this is the worst guitar sound in the history of rock music. I can't believe they didn't straight-up murder Bill Laswell when they heard the playback.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
i'm not sure where else to post this question, but what is the best cannibal corpse album, because i loved evisceration plague, but i don't know what else to get by them. Thanks.
― subversive time travel (FACK), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.shirtsanddestroy.com/img_model/whitepowderT.png
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)
what is the best cannibal corpse album
Kill is really good, and was produced by Erik Rutan, who produced Evisceration Plague, so it really is more of the same. Beyond that, everybody's got a favorite; most people like earlier stuff like Tomb of the Mutilated.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
alright thanks, i'll check both of those out
― subversive time travel (FACK), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
I love Cannibal's last two with Rutan...as for the earlier stuff I'm partial to The Bleeding and Vile.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe they didn't straight-up murder Bill Laswell when they heard the playback.
yes indeed. at least "orgasmatron" is distinctive and still powerful, "make them die slowly" is really one of the worst production jobs i've ever heard by an established producer. i like MTDS, believe it or not, but i hope someday they find some well-recorded demos for it.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 January 2010 02:36 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ that Nachtmystium shirt
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2010 02:38 (fifteen years ago)
i like MTDS, believe it or not, but i hope someday they find some well-recorded demos for it.
The last three songs are pretty good in a second-tier '80s thrash kind of way, but the first four are straight-up awful. And they're all too long. When the WZ 4CD/1DVD set came out I interviewed the four core bandmembers and they said they recorded that album three times, the third of which was the Laswell version. No idea what happened to the other two sets of tapes, but I really wish some enterprising bootlegger would get 'em out there, or even post 'em on a blog.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 28 January 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
listening to an old axis of advance album (obey). pretty wild stuff. sounds a bit like a black metal discordance axis. lots of screechy, dissonant guitars, grindy parts, and lots and lots of insane drum fills! love it.
― original bgm, Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)
absu + discordance axis, maybe?
― original bgm, Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
so is the Arch Enemy/Exodus/Arsis tour worth going to if its at a club i kind of hate?
― Shower to the sheeple! (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
started my day off right with the dlx edition of "Storm of the Light's Bane", what a great record. should listen to it more frequently
― Shower to the sheeple! (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yes. I actually saw some video of Arch Enemy's set in NYC (viewable here) and regret having left early.
And speaking of Discordance Axis, I got the new four-song Hayaino Daisuki EP (former DA vocalist Jon Chang's new band that's not GridLink) in today's mail. Sounds about like the last one, maybe a little more melodic. Gotta listen to it more carefully, but I'm spending much of today listening to the 2CD deluxe edition of From Elvis in Memphis.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
have to check out that hayaino daisuki - I only vaguely remember the last one. I think I had problems with the production? (but I honestly don't remember what they were)
listening to gridlink ep now. love this thing.
― original bgm, Thursday, 28 January 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
http://kkdowning.net/SpecialReports/logohistory.html
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:11 (fifteen years ago)
^ What an awesome find!
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
That's very cool!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
When the WZ 4CD/1DVD set came out I interviewed the four core bandmembers and they said they recorded that album three times, the third of which was the Laswell version.
lol 80s budgets
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 28 January 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Everyone on DFFD reckons southern lord can fuck right offand I agree with themhttp://www.southernlord.com/subscription.php
$225 AND shipping on top. Greg can get right tae fuck.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)
Nate can you get me a colour vinyl of the yob? No way am i subscribing to that just to get a colour vinyl.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
Haha, wow, do they ever know how to cash in on vinyl nerds.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that's way too much money but if they can get it from ppl good on them.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
Noone on DFFD is signing up for it, I cant see anyone outside the USA buying it because they get charged extra AS WELL AS FULL SHIPPING CHARGES ON TOP. I could understand it if the extra charges were for the extra shipping and all shipping charges were the same when you get to checkout, but that isn't the case.
They've put up how much shipping is now
USA
$170.00+14.20 shipping Canada $200.00+14.35 shipping Mexico $200.00+22.15 shipping Europe $225.00+26.02 shipping Pacific Rim$225.00+26.02 shipping
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)
$250 which is £160 almost
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
what is dffd and why is what they're doing an indication of anything
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
DFFD is the old Southern Lord forum that Greg removed because people complained about SL's business methods and wouldn't arselick. So Forever Doomed was formed complete with everyones log-ins by the guy who ran the board.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
so it's full of people who would be predisposed to having no interest in a goofy overpriced subscription series? gotcha.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
people who obsess about colored vinyl are so weird to me. I have a friend that's into shitty pop punk and will buy five versions of the same me first and the gimmie gimmies 7". 100% crazy person behavior imo.
― original bgm, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
otm
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
It's full of people who love the bands on the label but refuse to pay for overpriced mail order (many of whom have ordered from SL and not received their packages ) and will only buy from other distros and local shops.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)
Being a past customer of SL myself (just the once, mind), I can vouch for the fact that their shipping is SLOOOOOOW. That can be excused if the label is a bedroom business, but Southern Lord is a pretty big independent label at this stage. They should get their shit together.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)
I think the complainers would rather it was slooooooooooow as opposed to not getting their stuff, zero customer service and the like. I've never had a problem with them, but everytime I order from them, I do worry if it's my turn to to have problems.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, my one ordering experience from them was slooooooooooooow as hell too.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
southern lord once dicked me around for months. when i started demanding my money back they told me "whoops we found your order, it was at the bottom of one page of our spreadsheet and just got lost." fuck them.
― adam, Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
The slowness itself is a symptom of big problems in their mail order handling. I know it's not the post - stuff from the US normally gets this side of the pond in a matter of days, not weeks.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 28 January 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
"The slowness itself is a symptom of big problems in their mail order handling."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/ST-3-bud.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
I can't even imagine ordering from them from overseas, I mean I live in Chicago and my order took damn near a full month to get to me.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
Or, you know, fuck them for helping to create this idea that vinyl is "worth a premium price" and that $25+ is an acceptable price for an LP. And feeding into the Pokemon-collector mentality that exists in that scene.
listening to an old axis of advance album (obey). pretty wild stuff.
You should check out sacramentary abolishment (pre-AoA/Rites of Thy Degringolade). Also, Rites of Thy Degringolade.
― KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 29 January 2010 08:03 (fifteen years ago)
xxpost Haha Scott yeah, I never actually thought of that, silly me!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 29 January 2010 09:38 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno, i think southern lord's made their business strategy extremely clear and if people don't like it they're under no obligation to buy their stuff.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 29 January 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
One thing I would say is that if nothing else it removes Anderson (or whoever) of any right to complain about download culture
― Dean GAPDY (DJ Mencap), Friday, 29 January 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, the idea that someone goes 'I've just had a brilliant idea for making loads of money: SunnO))) albums and Ascend T-shirts' is pretty risible. They're worth the money you pay and if you don't like it, well, just do what everyone else does and buy the CD or download it.
XP: DJ Mencap, but they're pretty relaxed about that. They don't make a big thing of going on about it. And let's face it, a lot of metal people do.
― Doran, Friday, 29 January 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
I definitely will - thanks!
― original bgm, Friday, 29 January 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
Friday poll on my MSN metal blog: with all these bands reuniting, should some of them reassemble their 1990-92 tours (Soundgarden/Voivod/Faith No More, Metallica/Guns 'n' Roses/FNM, Megadeth/Slayer/Anthrax/Alice in Chains)?
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 29 January 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
haha each option has one band i can not stand at this point so thats a tough one
― srsly? im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (jjjusten), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, get rid of Anthrax in that last tour and you have a hell of a bill.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone who likes death metal at its ugliest should check out Vasaeleth. I'm listening to their Profound Lore debut right now, and it's very strong. Similar suffocating atmosphere as Portal, but nowhere near as impenetrable. Killer artwork, too.
http://www.myspace.com/vasaeleth
― A. Begrand, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
Ha ha, I just logged into my MySpace account for the first time in months and discovered two smackdowns from bands that I had reviewed in Decibel. Guess everyone's a critic of critics.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
Which bands?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 30 January 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
While Heaven Wept and Rusty Eye. Both of whom I gave okay reviews to, but apparently they disagree (and misread what I said). To wit:
Decibel review says images of "sugar skulls and marigolds" are "watered down PG-13 thrillers" and "as scary as off-screen gore". Hello? Dia de Muertos? Why do you think the song is named Nov 2 Day of The Dead?January 13 at 2:17pm
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)
Gates Of Slumber were solid last night, but wow, Pentagram! They recorded the show for a live album, and they ruled. Liebling is a real character, like a creepy uncle, but great fun. Griffin is amazing to watch.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 1 February 2010 04:48 (fifteen years ago)
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you about Orphaned Land, Adrien. It's definitely too long, but man, there are some great songs -- "Sapari" and "New Jerusalem" are really beautiful. The mixture of Middle Eastern styles and the progressive metal feels much more organic to me this time around.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Monday, 1 February 2010 05:33 (fifteen years ago)
Wanna read a track-by-track discussion of Rob Zombie's new album, with Rob Zombie? Sure you do.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 1 February 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)
Jeff, I actually really admire "Sapari" and "New Jerusalem", along with two or three others, but the rest of the album doesn't do anything for me.
On a different note, the new Triptykon tracks sound excellent...looking forward to the rest of the album!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 1 February 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
Slept-on 2009 death metal alert: I'm listening to the fourth Lost Soul disc, Immerse in Infinity, right now, and it's totally fucking crushing. It's their fourth album on as many labels (they went Relapse/Metal Mind - Osmose - Earache and are now on Witching Hour Productions), which is probably why nobody pays attention to them. But 2002's Ubermensch (Death of God) and 2005's Chaostream were both awesome, and this one is their best yet. They're the hidden treasure of the Polish death metal scene, easily the equal of Vader and on par with a slightly less over-the-top Decapitated. If you like having your skull blasted into shards, you need this.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 1 February 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)
great review in decibel AND girly jeff likes it. hmmmm, that might trump adrien's opinion. i loved mabool so much i'd kinda be a bad fan if i didn't at least give the new album a chance. i'm definitely curious.
i loved the - i think - earache album by lost soul. thought it was great. chaosstream! that was the one. yeah, my kinda stuff.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 01:22 (fifteen years ago)
I'm trying to be more manly this year! Today I downloaded a bunch of black metal promos, plus the new album from a cappella metal masters Van Canto (whose "Master of Puppets" cover is certainly, umm, masculine), AND I bought a Manowar record today... hmm. I'm not doing a very good job of making my case here, am I?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 04:24 (fifteen years ago)
Nothing wrong with Manowar!
I was ready to write off the much-hyped Charred Walls of the Damned album tonight, and all of a sudden it clicked and I wound up listening to it five times straight. Didn't expect that at all, but yeah, fun record.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't had an opportunity to listen to it all the way through yet, but what I've listen to so far is pretty fun. Definitely the best Ripper Owens performance I've heard.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
Slow beginning to the year, metal-wise, but Madder Mortem's Deadlands was just reissued with a couple bonus tracks, and I'm liking the Ihsahn album. Haven't decided about the new Dark Tranquillity yet; I think I initially want it to be more melodic, maybe as a lingering result of liking the last Amorphis album so much. Things will really kick in for me again, I think, with the new HIM album next week, and Rotting Christ a couple weeks later...
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)
The Dark Tranquillity is the usual stuff, good consistent tunes by one of the most consistent bands out there. Though I really like this one's production a lot more than Fiction.
The year's starting to heat up, just got Alcest, Les Discrets, and Landmine Marathon today.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
The Van Canto album is the funniest thing since the first time I saw DragonForce's "Through the Fire and Flames" video. But I gotta give 'em credit for doing it with a straight face.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
I just listened to the "Master of Puppets" cover. Oh. My. Goodness.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
Did not know these guys; this is kind of astonishinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwNrjvNiYs
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
forks, go look up their cover of "the trooper." it is all-time.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
rumtumtum tumtumtum tumtumtiddatumthis is so clearly up my alley
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
They're sort of ripping off Dokaka, only tarting it up to a comedic leval as only German power metalers can do.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
I reviewed the album for AMG and compared it to Geinoh Yamashirogumi, the group that did the soundtrack to Akira.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
when college acapella groups drop out
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
RON KON KON KON KA TOW!
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
Band/album name of the day: BESTIAL MOCKERY - "CHRISTCRUSHING HAMMERCHAINSAW"
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
hey metal folx:
Pentagram (the O.G. 70s stoner/doom/sab type thang) is playing my town in March...are they good live?
― i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
Yes.What's teh big deal about Pentagram, anyway?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
Just wanted to say that Feb 2 is CANDLEMASS.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Pentagram is 50% awesome 50% spinal tap hilarity. 100% worth seeing. Make sure you get First Daze Here comp on Relapse to brush up on their best written and worst recorded material.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
The new Alcest album is wonderful. A little more black metal tossed in here and there, a few harsh vox, but hoo boy, if you like Ride and Slowdive, wait till you hear its final third.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 08:10 (fifteen years ago)
excited for that! and my gf, who liked the last one, is gonna freak out at you namechecking slowdive
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)
I thought the last Alcest album sounded massively like Slowdive
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)
(thx y'all i think i will go to pentagram!)
― i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Rob Zombie right now, thanks to all of Phil's enthusing... and really loving it. I like that the industrial influences have been toned down drastically, this is a pretty straightforward hard rock record. Yeah, his basic schtick is still very much in place, but I haven't heard him sound this energetic in awhile. I especially like the two short, punk-y songs.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 February 2010 03:27 (fifteen years ago)
I can't get enough of the new Vasaeleth album. This comes close to besting Portal, as far as atmospere goes.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 5 February 2010 06:08 (fifteen years ago)
I reviewed the Van Canto album for AMG; here's what I said:
Van Canto's gimmick can be summed up in one sentence: they perform a cappella power metal. These Germans have five vocalists -- a male and female lead, and three backup vocalists who make the sounds of the instruments by singing things like "dundundundunrakatakatakatakadundundundun" behind them. Anyone familiar with the harmonies created by barbershop quartets, doo wop groups, or show choirs will understand the principle, even if hearing it applied to power metal -- with all its lyrics about dragons, fire, and glory -- is a little weird. The vocalists are extremely skilled, though, and it winds up not being nearly as laughable as it could be -- it's desperately earnest in a way only German power metal can be, but by the third or fourth song that becomes appealing rather than stupid. Some may argue with their lack of commitment to their stylistic choice, given that they have a real drummer -- and worse yet, Rage guitarist Victor Smolski plays screaming, shred-happy solos on several songs here, which winds up being disappointing, because what the group members can achieve using only their voices is much more impressive than one more whammy-bar-abusing axeman. Some songs, like their cover of Grave Digger's "Rebellion," almost sound like the work of Japanese group Geinoh Yamashirogumi, who recorded the soundtrack to Akira. And their version of Metallica's "Master of Puppets" is just…indescribable.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 5 February 2010 12:53 (fifteen years ago)
RIP metal haven (chicago);_; u were loved
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 5 February 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
Canada's greatest metal record store, Edmonton's Octopus Ink, also closed recently. Going to miss it, I spent a lot of cash there.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 5 February 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
Metal Haven closed? No way, I was just there last week, and they didn't say anything. The site is still up...
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 5 February 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
OK, I just got download links for the new Landmine Marathon, Triptykon and Unleashed albums. It's gonna be a loud weekend...
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 6 February 2010 00:12 (fifteen years ago)
I had no idea Unleashed had a new one. That'll be fun.
Landmine Marathon's new one is good, but I liked Rusted Eyes Awake so much that I doubt that the new CD can top it, improved production and all.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 February 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
RIP metal haven (chicago)
awww, this used to be my go-to place when i couldn't find sabbat and root albums anywhere else. i only mailordered from them, but they were a good place.
― international slackness (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 6 February 2010 02:57 (fifteen years ago)
man it's Friday in the Triangle and I would just like to state for the record how completely awesome it is that Friday nights on WKNC Raleigh they have the metal show. There is something so special about radio, I know it's super-corny to get all emo about radio but really, when there's a guy playing metal and you're part of an audience listening to the live mix it's really so rad. Especially when you're driving home or something. Tonight heading home dude busted out "Raining Blood." Now, at home, he's up on some Nightwish. I am 100% down and seriously thankful for my local metal show!!
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)
That's awesome. What Nightwish was he playing?
― kshighway (ksh), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
Here in atx we have NO CONTROL friday nights on 101x and its my favorite shit on earth featuring "midnight slayer" and "the metalocalypse moment" and stuff from grind to death to prog to a lil folk metals
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
He played "Bless the Child." So hot! Man Friday night metal radio show is the BUSINESS. just perfect in every way. if you click on this playlist in the next hour or so it'll tell you how my evening's been goin':
http://wknc.org/playlist/
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:26 (fifteen years ago)
Sweet! I know a bunch of scattered Nightwish songs, but I haven't heard Bless the Child.
And thanks for the link. Since I'll be sitting here for a while, I'll listen in.
― kshighway (ksh), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
http://wknc.org/playlist
Wow, that's exactly the kind of eclectic mix that I like in a metal show, but so rarely hear. Very cool!
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:34 (fifteen years ago)
oh man they're playing WASP now. man do I ever fucking love hearing some WASP.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)
This is making my Friday night so much better.
― kshighway (ksh), Saturday, 6 February 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)
Love Andrew W.K.
Now this is a Nightwish song I've heard many times before! (A bunch of my friends in high school were in a metal band that covered Nightwish, so I ended up getting into a bunch of their songs.)
― kshighway (ksh), Saturday, 6 February 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
this is one of the things I love best about wknc metal night - they'll play the same act a few times but not necessarily in a row - it's kind of exactly how my home listening works: "you know what I want to hear now? another maiden song"
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, that is awesome!
i'm really enjoying what i've heard of the show so far.
― kshighway (ksh), Saturday, 6 February 2010 04:39 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/finntroll
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 6 February 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)
That's interesting, Finntroll prefers Skittles to M&Ms.
On an unrelated note, when did Overkill get so freakin' good? Ironbound is flat-out the best front-to-back album they've ever made. They were always one of the most annoyingly inconsistent bands in metal and their recent stuff was just plain lousy, and I had ZERO expectations when I played this album on a whim, so this comes as a massive surprise.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 February 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)
I admit to not having been a big Immolation fan up until now, but I'm really liking the new one. Not sure it's due to any significant change on their part, I think I'm accepting more and more non-melodic voices that used to turn me off.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 February 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
anyone have any idea what happened to the Mayhem tour?
― Heisenberg (rockapads), Saturday, 6 February 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
Glenn--Immolation is fantastic. Finally finally saw them live about two weeks ago and they lived up to my many years of great expectations.
Rockapads--pretty sure they are just greedy assholes. That cancellation has screwed over hundreds of people, not counting the fans. Ludicra will be touring anyway, and we are scrambling to put that together immediately. Anyone who wants to give shout outs to Ludicra for soldiering on and touring anyway, please drop me a line.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 6 February 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
I'm hoping the end result is a longer Ludicra set... not a huge Mayhem fan anyway.
― Heisenberg (rockapads), Saturday, 6 February 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
So what's the plan - get the three support acts out on the road on the same dates but maybe in smaller venues?
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 6 February 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
re: metal haveni don't think they've closed all the way, but the end is nigh. for now it's deep discounts, etc. until it's all gone, i guess? that's what i read at least.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Saturday, 6 February 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I tend to lose patience quickly with uber-technical death metal where flurries take precendence over rhythm, at one end, and brutal death focused on pounding and bellowing, at the other, but Immolation find a good place in between. Not that their purpose is to suit my particular parameters, obviously.
Also, this new Gamma Ray album sounds a lot better than I expected. But lately the test of Gamma Ray/Helloween albums is whether I can still stand them the third time, so we'll see.
(And this last is not a metal rec, but if your metal tastes segue into Jesu, then over to Mono, then into quieter atmopherics, go look up the Japanese duo Matryoshka...)
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 February 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
It's a good time for old-fashioned doom these days...the new albums by Hour of 13 and Apostle of Solitude are knockouts.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
I'm doing some research into NSBM music and I'm curious if, outside listening to the artists on the Resistance Records website, there's a good place to start -- has anyone written about NSBM or other racist/anti-semitic metal movements? Are there other labels/artists that I should be checking out?
Also, loosely related, I'm trying to compile a sizable list of songs/albums/lyrics that deal thematically with concepts of possession, embodiment, exorcism, etc. I'm sure there are tons, but I've only been able to come up with a few (Master of Puppets, maybe?).
― Mordy, Sunday, 7 February 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
There's a book written in German called Unheilige Allianzen, unfortunately untranslated and my German is only good enough to read the German wiki page about the book (barely). I probably couldn't do substantive work in the original (tho maybe this is a good chance to improve my German so I could).
― Mordy, Sunday, 7 February 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
The Encyclopedia Metallum is pretty comprehensive - searches on 'genre' and 'lyrical theme' will give you good starts on either of your questions
― Soukesian, Sunday, 7 February 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.last.fm/tag/the%20pagan%20front
http://www.last.fm/tag/national%20socialist%20black%20metal
http://www.last.fm/tag/nsbm
http://www.last.fm/music/Sieg+Oder+Tod
http://www.last.fm/tag/rac
http://www.last.fm/music/Sons+Of+North
http://www.last.fm/music/Gestapo+666
http://www.last.fm/music/Aryan+Blood
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 February 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
that's just two minutes i spent on the internet. lemme know if you want me to spend three minutes.
Even legendary Canadian Werewolf True Pitch Black Metal band Byzantum is on the Encyclopedia Metallum
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26983
― bee hand luke (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 February 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
I think Decibel had an article on this a few years back.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
"Orgasmatron"
― the not-ratface one (Ioannis), Monday, 8 February 2010 07:46 (fifteen years ago)
"So what's the plan - get the three support acts out on the road on the same dates but maybe in smaller venues?"
Essentially, yes. Though Tombs and Krallice want to stick to the east coast. So there will be a host of Ludicra dates with the best local support we can muster.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
And on a personal note: my band Witch Mountain (formed in Portland, OR back in 1997) has just finished a new album with producer Billy Anderson. Think Goatsnake with Anne Wilson of Heart on vocals.
I'll be shopping it at Scion fest and Roadburn. But meanwhile, any press folks who are interested in this sort of thing, email me at nanotear AT hotmail and I'll get you the mastered sampler.
And if you know of any radio outlets that handle this sort of music (like Scott Kelly's satellite radio show for instance), please let me know. We ended up with a song under 4 minutes that actually has a chorus.
It took us ten years to make a second album and it feels so so good to have it done once and for all.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
Send me one. I will even post an MP3 on my MSN blog if you want.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:58 (fifteen years ago)
Done.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
Think Goatsnake with Anne Wilson of Heart on vocals.
I'm definitely interested. Will email.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
I'm certainly interested in hearing it, but these days I'm not writing for anything beyond my barely browsed blogs.
Finally digging into the Ihsahn, this is fucking fantastic.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
Jon, I'm happy to have people hear it who will simply spread the good word. It is a "promotional sampler" after all ;)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
Well then. :) E-mail sent.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
Just wrapping up my first listen to the new Orphaned Land and, well, I think it'll take some time to fully form an opinion on this thing. It's massive, and honestly, a bit of a slog to get through in one session. There are some really good moments and, unsurprisingly for an album this massive and ambitious, some moments that really don't work well at all. An early favorite is "Disciples of the Sacred Oath II".
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
Does C0sm0 still post around here? Curious to hear why he thought Phil's exercise was an "unnecessary mess". I thought it was good to see someone try to find out the truth before either a) giving press to a band with questionable beliefs or b) unfairly ignoring a good young band.
http://invisibleoranges.com/2010/02/wolvhammer-eps.html
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
weird post--it's like he wants to minimize the issue of racism in metal. i think it's perfectly reasonable that folks might want to avoid bands that have those beliefs. but c0sm0 and i have never seen eye-to-eye afaict
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)
weird post--it's like he wants to minimize the issue of racism in metal
Especially when paired with the post below it, where he asks what questions people would like him to ask Varg Vikernes.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
lol didn't even see that
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I thought it was good of Phil to call out the band and forcing them to get that all out in the open, and it was good of the band to respond so quickly. I don't understand what's so wrong with that.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
With Varg's people screening each email interview before approving submission, I doubt he'll be giving many interesting answers at all, at least answers to the questions most people want asked.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:14 (fifteen years ago)
I got this email yesterday.
This is too good an opportunity to pass up.
So, let's put our heads together.
What questions do you have for Mr. Vikernes?
hahah i don't really know what's so good about this opportunity, both for the reason adrien mentioned and because varg is an upper-level bullshit artist in interviews anyway.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:24 (fifteen years ago)
oh also and why give pub/attention to an asshole like varg?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 03:27 (fifteen years ago)
it seems more like people want to make a bigger deal out of the wolvhammer thing than necessary. it didn't really seem like he was "calling them out," more like he was asking a legitimate question that, i would think, they would want to be clear about in the first place.
― international slackness (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)
Varg Vikernes: no. Ville Valo: yes! Yes yes yes new HIM yes yes. Back to sounding like they sounded when I thought they might be my new favorite band. Happy Metal!
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
awesome! That last record was way too artsy for its own good. I want big hooks from HIM, not weirdness.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for the Witch Mountain love on the MSN Blog Phil.
http://music.msn.com/superfans/heavy-metal/blog/free-music-witch-mountain-mp3/?silentchk=1&
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
Forty years ago, Black Sabbath released their debut album
― the not-glo-fi one (Ioannis), Friday, 12 February 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)
HAIL THE (tr00) BIRTH OF HEAVY METAL, ACCURSED INFIDELS!!!!!!
― the not-glo-fi one (Ioannis), Friday, 12 February 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)
"Forty years -- what a surprise!" (to the tune of Bowie's 5 years)
― Nate Carson, Friday, 12 February 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
Nice Overkill review Adrien. I almost picked that up yesterday when I saw it at Best Buy, but it was fucking $18.99 for the single disc version for some weird reason.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)
Kinda liking Anima (Serbian rock/metal) and While Heaven Wept (somewhere between Dream Theater and Candlemass). And Gamma Ray and Overkill sound good. But HIM and Rotting Christ and Ihsahn and Immolation are my heavy rotation right now. HIM back to their grandiosity, Rotting Christ taking those arabic flutter-riffs into a new sphere, Ihsahn making sax sound both metal and Metal, and Immolation just stomping on heads. The music year is officially well underway.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 12 February 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
Ihsahn is definitely my early favorite of the young year, particularly "Frozen Lakes On Mars" - I can't stop playing that one. The whole thing is really awesome though.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone heard this band? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1Otz94ZFcBM/S3fvpgpI7gI/AAAAAAAAAnY/Wa2kZ2_Xo0A/s400/a2adb7c63e05.jpg
http://www.myspace.com/mountaingoatband
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
http://thewarp.org/blog/images/fortunel_a.jpg
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
It's amazing how noodle vague has influenced so many ilxors to store images they find to use on ilx one day
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
i found that in seconds by GISing "copyright police"!
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
Influences
Clutch. Kyuss. Nirvana. Boris. Black Sabbath. Sleep. Electric Wizard. Down. Queens of the Stone Age. Goatsnake. Probot. Cathedral. The Melvins. Bongzilla. Weedeater. Daniel Lioneye. Tom Morello solos.
hey, there's another goat somewhere in dere.
― the not-glo-fi one (Ioannis), Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1Otz94ZFcBM/S3fvpgpI7gI/AAAAAAAAAnY/Wa2kZ2_Xo0A/s400/a2adb7c63e05.jpg
she got to keep the bong after the divorce iirc
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Sunday, 14 February 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
I like his friendly face and friendly moobs
― I didn't find the comments funny, nor did I find the dog photos cute (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 14 February 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
In other news, I am listening to the Black Breath album on Southern Lord - this is the followup to the EP they released in December - and it owns, in much the same way as the EP owned. Kurt Ballou produced it so it's a bit more, um, produced, but it works for them. Really hope the whole world is sucking their dicks by summer
― I didn't find the comments funny, nor did I find the dog photos cute (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 14 February 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
I loved the Black Breath EP, and having Ballou produce the new one can only be a good thing. Really looking forward to this one!
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 14 February 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
I liked the EP, but I thought it was a little one-dimensional. Is the album more varied?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 February 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Lair of the Minotaur disc, Evil Power. I don't know...I want to love this band, because on the surface they're the ultimate metal band - their name, the fact that their albums have titles like Carnage, The Ultimate Destroyer and War Metal Battle Master, the video for the last album's title track - but I just don't feel like they're living up to their potential. In my opinion, they peaked with The Ultimate Destroyer. This time out, they've brought in bassist/vocalist Nate Olp from Demiricious, a band I think is really underrated, and the songs have titles like "Let's Kill These Motherfuckers," "Hunt and Devour" and "Death March of the Conquerors," but it's just not as awesome as it should be. I'll give it a few more listens and see if it grows on me.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 15 February 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
fwiw i always felt similarly about those guys.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 15 February 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
So...Just dropping in to say that, though I have next to no use for new metal these days, I do think I like the new Ratt album, new Orphaned Land album, and new Helloween best-of album regardless. That's all.
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
Same. I have a friend for whom they are one of about three metal groups he likes - to him they embody everything metal is, or should be, about. I find their music boring and their whole shtick kind of goofy.
(xp)
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
Lair of the Minotaur are a hell of a lot of fun live. I bought this shirt when I saw them:
http://shop.relapse.com/dbimages/sleeves/93612dvd_216.jpg
That being said, I do not own any actual music from them.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
in case anyone out of town wondered about metal haven/closing/etchttp://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/metal-haven-closing-mark-weglarz-ravenswood-music-stores/Content?oid=1418106
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
I like the new Ratt too. Hate the Orphaned Land. Have never listened to a whole Helloween song.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
Not even all 13 glorious minutes of "Halloween", Phil? Pre-1988 Helloween is so great. After that, not so much.
I like Lair of the Minotaur, but it seems they never go as over the top as they should with this kind of battle metal or what have you. I'll be giving the new album a listen later.
Meanwhile, the new Landmine Marathon album isn't really growing on me much. It's good, but it doesn't feel like the big leap you'd expect from a band expected to get a lot of hype in 2010. I just like their previous stuff better, I think.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
What do you hate about the Orphaned Land?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)
helloween (yeah the old stuff) is great, get tarnished with the silly brush a little too often so a lot of dudes i know wont listen to them, but i think it holds up
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, i too liked the Orphaned Land quite a bit on first hearing. come to think of it, that alone may well be definitive proof that it does indeed suck.
― the not-glo-fi one (Ioannis), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
Despite being probably way too long, it's the first "real" metal album I've made it all the way through, painlessly, on first sitting, in ages.
Helloween best-of sounded way lighter and catchier (even almost "new wave" now and then) than I expected. Which I'm sure will bother some people, but fuck 'em.
Of course I was just playing both of them in the background; maybe on closer inspection, they'll wind up boring me. But I hope not.
― xhuxk, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
Currently listening to the new Armored Saint, which is really good. Not metal exactly; heavy in a Wino/Trouble sort of way, with Mellotron and classic hard rock guitar sounds. Plus John Bush's vocals, of course, which are terrific.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
The Orphaned Land album is just...too much. Too long, too overbearing with the Middle Eastern instrumentation, too boring ("Bereft in the Abyss"), and not heavy enough. No thanks. I'll stick with Melechesh.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
what i have heard of Orphaned Land has not impressed me very much
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad I'm not the only one less than impressed with the Orphaned Land CD. Tries way too hard, whereas Mabool was totally charming.
Oh, and thanks, jon, for the Overkill comment upthread. What a great album Ironbound is! I was totally floored when I heard "The Green and Black".
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno, for me Mabool sounded really primitive/tentative in comparison to the new one's all out, head-long dive into the "cultural" abyss. the more middle-eastern flavor they let seep into their more or less standard, by-the-numbers extreme metal tunes the better, i say. eclecticism is not always a negative trait, y'know.
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Monday, 15 February 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
eclecticism is not always a negative trait, y'know.
Before I took over Metal Edge I spent two years editing a world music magazine. I'm very familiar with sonic eclecticism and the combining of rock with other musical forms, in both directions. Their eclecticism isn't enough to make Orphaned Land good.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)
I've never heard anyone do it better than Melechesh.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/news/37924-xasthur-and-marissa-nadler-collaborate-on-new-album/
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
he reminds me of humorless goth dudes of the 90s.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
kshighway isn't a goth is he?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
am i?
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
not sure if you're joking or not, but I meant Xasthur.
xp
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
i think he's joking
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
oops - meta goes over my head O_o
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)
The last time I met Marissa Nadler, like three years ago, I asked her what she'd been up to recently and she said she'd been thinking about drowning herself in a bath. I'm not saying, I'm just saying
― Originoo Golf Clappaz (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
She's a funny gal.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 10:46 (fifteen years ago)
where is L0uis so I can give him shit about this
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)
he is on birthday/exam leave iirc
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)
things you dont expect to see - darrahmac on the metal thread. Welcome!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the Barren Earth album, Curse of the Red River, right now. Do you like Opeth? 'Cause these guys do - a lot. Mellotron, acoustic guitar interludes, death growls 'n' clean crooning...seriously, Mikael Åkerfeldt should file a cease and desist letter.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
most badass track I've heard in 2010. ride for revenge, "no savior no return":http://chronicyouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/03-no-savior-no-return.mp3
sounds kind of like coffins-style death/doom with some tom g. warrior grunting and growling on top. but just bass and drums and plus some throbbing gristle weirdness thrown in for good measure throughout the album. rules.
there's no quicker way into my heart than a drummer playing the same drum beat over ever track. provided it's a cool drum beat.
also been listening to the bastard noise/endless blockade split. been anticipating this one since I heard about the new bastard noise lineup with live drums and bass + electronics. their side of the split basically sounds like man is the bastard with a production job with a little more oomph. it's really cool. endless blockade side is the first I've heard of them but I like it too.
also keep listening to the cremation demos I mentioned upthread. nuclear war now just collected most of them for a comp called black death cult.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
RFR are pretty awesome. they need a guitarist making flipper-style noise though.
― darling fascist bullyboy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
hahaha I was thinking the same thing last night while listening
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
one of the many reasons I love corrupted too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQVP81ab9s
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
also, I think my "coffins-style death/doom" description above might be a bit misleading, now that I think of it. RFR swing more than that. just listen to the track!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
new Cathedral out 10 May, this is my #1 most anticipated
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
^I hope to be able to listen to that in a few days (when back on a PC where I can stream promos), may report back
Gonna pick up the BN/Endless Blockade split asap also
― Originoo Golf Clappaz (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)
I've been enjoying that one a lot. Their EP from late last year is good, too.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
Just played the Ov Hell album for the first time, and at least initially it seems more varied and interesting than the last Gorgoroth album. Looks stupid, though.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
so fuckin excited i'm gonna see Krisiun/Nile/immolation on friday. and immolation are selling advance copies of their new albm at the shows!
― Ballistic, Thursday, 18 February 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, y'all - I'm part of a new zine called Burning Ambulance. The first issue is out now. It's only available through Lulu.com, and features mostly avant-garde jazz, but also includes a long and fascinating story on Orthodox, and me reviewing a bunch of punk- and metal-related books including Precious Metal, Joe Carducci's Enter Naomi and Daniel Ekeroth's Swedish Death Metal, among others. You can buy it ($5 for a download, $10 for a physical copy) at this link. I really hope you'll consider doing so. This is a total labor of love.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 18 February 2010 04:26 (fifteen years ago)
cool!
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 February 2010 04:36 (fifteen years ago)
Contributing writers: Matt Cibula, Philip Freeman, Kurt Gottschalk, Stephen Haynes, and Phil Nugent.
done.
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Thursday, 18 February 2010 10:09 (fifteen years ago)
"new Cathedral out 10 May, this is my #1 most anticipated
Halfway through it now and it is amazing.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 18 February 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)
!!
― original bgm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
also, I haven't listened to overkill since I hear black but the praise on this thread got me curious. listening to the stuff on their myspace page and loving it!
― original bgm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
*Whistles* bootvids.blogspot.com/
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
I agree on the new Cathedral. Really strong album by them, which is good to see because they are either great or drab. I absolutely love the track 'Funeral Of Dreams.' So unexpected in composition but it really works.
The Overkill is a nice surprise too, Can't remember the last time I really enjoyed one of their albums. I think it was decades ago.
― S. Palmerston, Friday, 19 February 2010 01:45 (fifteen years ago)
Yay, gonna see Orphaned Land in NY in March.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)
Same here. Last one I liked at all was Under the Influence, and even that one had its mediocre moments. I always found them to be a horribly inconsistent band, but did they ever get it right on the new one.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 February 2010 04:38 (fifteen years ago)
bootvids.blogspot.com/
Uh, wow. GORE live! FEAR OF GOD live! Wow wow wow.
― GOD PUNCH TO DALE HAWKWINDS (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 February 2010 08:45 (fifteen years ago)
I was beginning to think noone was going to check that link out!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 February 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
Also, I don't think I'd ever paid much attention to Dark Fortress (possibly even confusing them with Dark Funeral), but this new album Ylem is pretty good. "Melodic Black Metal", EM says, but this is the kind of thing that makes me not quite understand the boundaries between Black and Death Metal. It's "dark", anyway, with stretches of both stomping and twitching, and a variety of vocal styles (all percussive). Heavier than creepy, though.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 19 February 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, i'm really kinda surprised to be digging the new Rotting Christ album as much as i am here. lotsa interesting shit goin' on--love their use of mid-eastern/arabic scales/modes/etc.--that ain't just part and parcel of yer standard BM offerings. cool.
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Friday, 19 February 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
So apparently Burzum leaked -- anyone heard yet?
― Mordy, Friday, 19 February 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
It's pretty darn good.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 February 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
I've never dug deep into Rotting Christ before either, but the new album really is good.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 19 February 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
What's it like in comparison to A Dead Poem? didn't like that one at all...
― Ballistic, Friday, 19 February 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
Never heard A Dead Poem. But the new one has Diamanda Galás on the last track, so the new one wins.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 19 February 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)
HAHA totally gotta listen now
― Ballistic, Friday, 19 February 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, what Phil said. (her accent is pretty funny when she sings in Greek tho--WAY worse than mine.)
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Friday, 19 February 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
Krisiun/Nile/Immolation was wtf amazing
― Ballistic, Saturday, 20 February 2010 06:07 (fifteen years ago)
btw check out Dreaming Dead. Female fronted death metal band that touches on melodic death, doom, traditional death, and heavy metal. This isn't a chick novelty act or a group where the ladies are ornaments - they are the guitar players and one of them does lead vocals and they're tight.
Apparently you can't buy a physical copy of their cd right now but check it out on ITunes.
― Ballistic, Saturday, 20 February 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
I liked them when they were called Manslaughter. Haven't seen them live yet though since I timed it right to just catch Immolation.
Liz is a total sweetheart. A very earnest metal chick who slays on guitar and roars like a demon. Hope they blow up. It's the drummer from Exhausted Prayer, no?
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 February 2010 05:10 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not sure but whomever he was, he was a beast on the kit. and I have tremendous respect for someone who drums and does vocals at the same time. that's gotta be real hard coordination wise. There's a second girl in the band on lead guitar but she isn't listed on their facebook page but I'm not sure who she is. Amazing player though.
Their set made me realize a lot of metal sensibility. I mean, metal is still very 'sexist' to a degree. Yea, females have a larger presence than they ever used to be, but I mean often times in these bands they get stuck in the ancillary roles (ie, bass, or 'opera' vocals for a goth metal group). It's still a boy's game.
And this set had the potential to draw ire from the fans. They hadn't totally embraced the first opening act, and Liz put her purse on top of the amp gear for the entire show. I'm sure people that didn't know them already didn't know what to expect. Then the lead guitar chick did some crazy insane lead for soundcheck and people starting paying attention. and then they launchedi nto this Sabbathy doom riff to open the song and for the next 30 mins, the floor was crowded and mosh pits broke out. everyone loved em.
bummer that they had no cds to sell - guessing they are sold out and don't have anymore pressed. I bought it on ITunes though.
― Ballistic, Sunday, 21 February 2010 14:40 (fifteen years ago)
now, off to see Deicide on 3/12. I'll preface that I haven't liked half of their albums (including the last two that for some reason got critical praise, even though I loathed them). but hearing the classics will be fun, plus....Glen Benton has the worst stage banter ever. It's unintentionally hilarious at times - I'm going for that reason too.
― Ballistic, Sunday, 21 February 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
also did anybody think Suffocation's "Blood Oath" was overrated? I've liked Suffocation since their reunion (liked Souls to Deny and the s/t) but the group seems to lack a lot of the dynamics they had in the past. The songs seem to be at the same tempo, thus negating tempo changes, breakdowns, and the riffs don't seem to have the characteristic Suffocation stamp on them.
I think it'd be a solid album for any other DM band but just pale for Suffocation.
― Ballistic, Sunday, 21 February 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)
Wardruna were amazing in Oslo on Saturday night. One of the best post BM things I've seen in a long time. Still on a Norwegian tip Altaar slayed as well. And Shining were stunning. I wasn't sure if they'd be able to do Blackjazz live or not. But they can. (Jorgen from the Shining, ex-Jaga Jazzist had what he called a more traditional jazz group playing Chrome Hill but they had definable post punk, BM and Earth influences.)
― Doran, Sunday, 21 February 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
Haha, reviews for the new Wold on iTunes:
"This is not music whatsoever. All three songs sound the same and the album costs $9.99 for 3 s****y songs"
"All this is is noise. It has no musical value whatsoever. DO NOT BUY"
"You can't help but feel sorry for all the money the label is about to lose..."
"Ok, I'm not against any music genre (except rap maybe) and I know how many different metal subgenres there are, but what is this? How could you categorize it? It sounds like black metal when you first listen to it, but black metal is still very technical, so no. All I know is that this is not very good..."
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 February 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
An interesting idea, but not the best Wold album by a long shot.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 February 2010 01:26 (fifteen years ago)
What a disaster for Profound Lore
― GOD PUNCH TO DALE HAWKWINDS (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 22 February 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
ok Immolation's newie (Majesty and Decay) is amazing. not that it aws any surprise. some of it harkened back to Close to a World Below, tho, which is surprising as they really haven't touched on that sound much since.
― Ballistic, Monday, 22 February 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)
Music to my ears Ballistic.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 22 February 2010 07:13 (fifteen years ago)
Ok, finally getting to The Guessing Game...wow. Just wow. Incredible.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, 22 February 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
Best Buy is selling a version of the new High On Fire album with three extra songs (one studio, two live) for $7.99 and free shipping. I just ordered mine.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 22 February 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
my local store is apparently going to have it for 5.99!!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
$5.99 around here too. I'd pay twice as much for a different mix.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
$7.99 on Amazon too, fwiw.
― ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
"Ok, finally getting to The Guessing Game...wow. Just wow. Incredible."
Yeah. Aside from the purist doom of Forest of Equilibrium and to a less degree Endtyme, this is hitting me as their best and most innovative album. Finally a weirdo Cathedral album that I can love. They sound like the utter veterans that they are on this one. My album of the year so far in just one listen.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
I keep waiting for that album to surface on the Nuclear Blast ipool. Have to hear it!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 February 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)
My album of the year so far in just one listen.
^^^ ksh are you listening 'cause the truth just came flyin at you my friend
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, 22 February 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
just ordered the latest Festered album. STILL waiting on my goddamn Necrophagist cd from my half.com order. wtf did I pay for expedited shipping for if it takes almost two weeks?
― Ballistic, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
OK, I'm downloading the Cathedral thing now, but before I even listen to it, I have a question: This thing is almost 85 minutes long, but the website doesn't list it as being a two-CD set. How do they make that work?
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:00 (fifteen years ago)
no idea, I got mine from the press pool.
I am listening to it again this evening. I find it just breathtaking - I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because over the years they've always been capable of awesome & different looks, but I guess I would have expected a move toward more titanic sludge like Endtyme (which I also love) instead of this really crazy weird psychedelic folk-tinged THING.
so rad.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)
According to the label, it is in fact a double disc. Tracks 1-7 are Disc 1, Tracks 8-13 are Disc 2.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:27 (fifteen years ago)
Curious to hear that, sounds pretty epic. Also looking forward to hearing the High On Fire finally.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)
Meanwhile, the new Helloween "best-of" that xhuxk mentioned a while back upthread is one of the biggest metal trainwrecks I have ever heard. Gospel choirs, Sanborn-style sax, attempts at Americana...it's impossible to keep a straight face listening to this stuff. Yikes.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:48 (fifteen years ago)
oh guys, this ihsahn record is SO GOOD
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:50 (fifteen years ago)
i mean most of you already know that, but holy shit.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)
He's back.
http://www.thelefthandpath.com/lefthandpath/index.cfm/event/read/entry/High_on_Fire_Snakes_for_the_Divine
What a goddamned awful High on Fire record. There’s nothing to like about this fifth full-length, Snakes for the Divine, not even the two-bit fanto cover art. What remains is Matt Pike’s tiresome Lemmy impression, front and center, illuminated by a complete inability to convey anything but passing-a-Mini-Cooper-through-his-shitter pathos. Every song swathed in the same schema: Ball-aching growls “compete” with drummer Des Kensel’s yawning mid-paced blah.The program's obvious intent -- huffin’ it over mountains to swipe marauder gold from ice caverns rife with Githyanki and Frost Giants -- never materializes. Try to erase the stubborn picture of group therapy sessions full of tatted, steel-haired guys smoking Pall Malls and sipping Folgers, chatting up how long they’ve stuck it out with the methadone. No, I never liked “reality” television. What a moody, cantankerous blast of ennui... Songs take far too long to get their bearing and then flail about listlessly, content with grand declarations of emotional quagmire received in wholly disconnected and unfounded ways – sorta like a dog flipping through a Time magazine photo special on the Haiti earthquake devastation. The greatest crime here is Pike’s guitar. Long his most appealing weapon, the axe is blunted, inexcusably dressed down by an indifferent and destructive mix. Propulsive, fanged riffs gone fruity is a disease I never figured this guy to present. But the world’s rife with disappointment. Aint it? People predisposed to praise this transformation likely cower from Albini’s fist-to-the-nuts production style – and Blessed Black Wings’ (exquisite) brand of tunes. That’s fine. Most folks need another underachieving bullshit band whose total artistic ambition consists in “playing epic tunes, brah.” Stewart Voegtlin
The program's obvious intent -- huffin’ it over mountains to swipe marauder gold from ice caverns rife with Githyanki and Frost Giants -- never materializes. Try to erase the stubborn picture of group therapy sessions full of tatted, steel-haired guys smoking Pall Malls and sipping Folgers, chatting up how long they’ve stuck it out with the methadone. No, I never liked “reality” television.
What a moody, cantankerous blast of ennui... Songs take far too long to get their bearing and then flail about listlessly, content with grand declarations of emotional quagmire received in wholly disconnected and unfounded ways – sorta like a dog flipping through a Time magazine photo special on the Haiti earthquake devastation.
The greatest crime here is Pike’s guitar. Long his most appealing weapon, the axe is blunted, inexcusably dressed down by an indifferent and destructive mix. Propulsive, fanged riffs gone fruity is a disease I never figured this guy to present. But the world’s rife with disappointment. Aint it? People predisposed to praise this transformation likely cower from Albini’s fist-to-the-nuts production style – and Blessed Black Wings’ (exquisite) brand of tunes. That’s fine. Most folks need another underachieving bullshit band whose total artistic ambition consists in “playing epic tunes, brah.”
Stewart Voegtlin
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)
WHY DO PEOPLE EMPLOY THIS GUY?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:45 (fifteen years ago)
Ball-aching growlsBall-aching growlsBall-aching growlsBall-aching growlsBall-aching growls
― PANZER DIVISION DEVO (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 12:51 (fifteen years ago)
His review of the Devil's Blood album (which isn't great) is amazingly bullshit.
― PANZER DIVISION DEVO (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:04 (fifteen years ago)
The Devil's Blood - The Time of No Time Evermore
Ahem. Those into a weekender “occult” band fronted by an R. Crumb illustration covered in stage blood who whips her band of merry men into able lockstep aping of the impossibly dreary latter half of Blue Oyster Cult’s catalog will find the quasi-Poe titled, and logically impossible The Time of No Time Evermore a pulsing vibe on the clit of aesthetic eureka. Myself? I prefer early BOC, and legitimately rocking, uncool lifer “roots rock” bands such as Witch. Even if The Devil’s Blood somehow managed to wrangle the limitless drumming talents of J. Mascis into its fold, they’d still be just another inoffensive crit darling playing Praise-Hell-Satan to other weekender skeez in fresh-from-the-biker-trunk leather vests. To quote the venerable Slim Pickens, don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining. Coming soon to a Pitchfork Media column near you.
I guess they didn't return his emails.
legitimately rocking, uncool lifer “roots rock” bands such as Witch
hahaha OK buddy
― PANZER DIVISION DEVO (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:07 (fifteen years ago)
hah check this guys OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)
I don't like The Devil's Blood half as much as a lot of ppl, I don't think, but as far as I can see they have no particular critical cachet to speak of
― Originoo Golf Clappaz (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)
okay, THIS is a great album title though:
"a pulsing vibe on the clit of aesthetic eureka"
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
and a great username for someone. any takers?
nah
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
the guys from witch are pretty cool. and they ARE just rock dudes. they have bought records from me here and its always, like, moxy and godz records that they buy. (70's biker godz, not e.s.p. godz) haven't met dinosaur dude though.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)
you guys are gonna make me a fan of this guy! didn't know his stuff at all. very entertaining.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
Kinda used to like The Left Hand path when it was just a column, but ever since they became a website the writing has got more & more irritating.
Won't disagree The Devil's Blood album isn't great, but saw them live last week & they were very fine indeed.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
were all these witchcraft/sabbath/coven 70's blood ritual bands actually swing bands 5 years ago. that's what i want to know. or were they ska bands?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
retro-satanic heavy rock's leaving a shitstain across the 00s
― PANZER DIVISION DEVO (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
My album of the year so far in just one listen.^^^ ksh are you listening 'cause the truth just came flyin at you my friend― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.)
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.)
:-) The store opens in a mere hour. . .
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
yeah but the new Cathedral won't be in stores til April
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
Stereogum just updated, and now you can get the Haunting the Chapel column as a standalone RSS feed, which I don't think you could do before:
http://stereogum.com/category/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/feed/
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)
thanks for the heads up!
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
Okay absolutely love the High On Fire! I don't really have any problems with the production. Fantastic fucking record. Think it is just barely pushing past Ihsahn as me favorite of the young year.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)
^^^word.
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)
Presumably because he has the balls to make a call without worrying what the fanboys will think?
― Helmut Was A Krautrocker, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 12:47 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, on the contrary; I think he's obsessed with what "fanboys" think. Otherwise he'd just state his own opinion without feeling the need to bolster it by caricaturing others who disagree.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)
haha Please everyone welcome my good friend Piotr (aka Helmut Was A Krautrocker). He did post a few times years ago under that name but clearly he's bored with DFFD and has come back!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, speaking of which, I'm not registered on DFFD but I think some of the folks there would be interested in reading about Orthodox in Burning Ambulance. Can someone who's a regular poster there email me with the goal of starting a discussion of the mag over there? I'll provide all relevant links to include, etc.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
ahoy hoy, piotr.
so, I listened to the new HOF yesterday and really wasn't feeling it at all. I actually liked how prominent the bass and drums were in the mix but the songs weren't really doing it for me. not much stuck.
vox were probably too high in the mix, yeah.
have to listen again.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
and I want to hear that new cathedral album real bad. supremely jealous of you guys.
Now then Piotr,
I've got to say that constantly harping on in reviews about how everyone bar you has got it wrong (even if you're right) is deeply unpleasant. The odd occasion I've caught myself doing it I've been thoroughly ashamed. You just can't confidently state why a group of people, maybe numbering in the tens of thousands love a record for the wrong reasons.
It amazes me that so many people like Saxon. I don't think they're doing it because of peer pressure though. And (despite my gut feeling to the contrary) I know people actually genuinely love stuff like Girls and Wavves and Andrew WK and Manowar. It's not my job to state that they don't unless I've got some kind of proof.
Plus going on about how great your taste is and how everyone else bar you and your mates are wrong is the review equivalent of going "LOL@USERNAME^" - nothing outrageous about it. It's just, well, uncouth and ever so slightly lame.
― Doran, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
I'm pretty sure Piotr disliked Mr Voegtlin on the old SL board even though he doesn't like Mastodon,Torche etc.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
Sorry that was a Hello Piotr.
And then me ranting in general. Too much coffee. Back to work.
― Doran, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
Oh hi!
I went and read some more Voegtlin, and Doran, you are correct... dude's a bit caustic in a sneering, everyone-but-me-is-wrong kind of way. I guess I just got sick of hearing how the new HoF is awesome and it was refreshing to see someone not feeling it like I don't feel it.
Who was this dude on the old SL board?
― Helmut Was A Krautrocker, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
Everyone loves it? Everything I've read (bar here) has been how shitty the production is.
I forget his username, but he got pissed off because people liked Baroness,Mastodon and Torche and he thought it was fake metal and how people shouldn't listen to fake metal and how everyone who liked them were hipsters and republicans. And he just ranted constantly all the time about them (he still does in his reviews as covered in previous rolling metal threads here).He was no warpig.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
^^^sounds like a true blue Chuck Eddy fan to me. ;)
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
I don't mind him not liking the album, I'm all for critical discourse. The problem with that review, is that it reads like he's railing against the same things he's always disliked about the band (the drumming, Pike's singing). There is really very little to tell me why THIS particular album isn't good. He's just bitching about a band he already hated, which doesn't strike me as good criticism when reviewing an album.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
That's all he does. But funny that on the OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever? people actually liked his writing. I hate flowery reviews, but typical of ilx to stand up for it.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
his writing ain't so bad usually, and even occasionally fun to read; it's his "IDEAS" that suck!!!!!!
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)
I also kinda hate critics that throw themselves into the "true metal" pissing match. That's one that no one is ever going to win, so why bother?
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
"but typical of ilx to stand up for it."
it's not horribly written and its fairly distinctive! he's one up on 90% of everyone else who writes music reviews right there.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
Xiu Xiu. It's been driving me mental all day trying to remember which band it is.
I cannot for the life of me imagine anyone ever actually extracting any pleasure whatsoever from listening to Xiu Xiu. If you extraordinarily renditioned me to Mordor and then waterboarded me with Phil Anselmo's septic arse broth for 24 hours solid I would still not be able to convincingly tell you that I believed that anyone sane got anything other than deep displeasure from listening to this bunch of twits.
But logic (and the trace remnants of human decency) tells me otherwise. It's not for me to say how people consume and enjoy music.
I think I once fell into the massive wanker pit of describing someone (probably coldplay) as music for people who hate music but I hope I've become a less shit writer since then because there's just no such thing. If you read the way Douglas Adams writes about Dire Straits you can tell he had a very deep, almost profound, love for that band. You just can't infer anything about a person (in this sense at least) - especially not their love for music - by what music they listen to.
I kind of feel sorry for this clown, wanking himself to sleep every night over his original Tank vinyl.
Nigel and proud. That's me.
― Doran, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
Of course none of this applies to people who like Sting or The Police.
They're just cretins.
― Doran, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
that Xiu Xiu paragraph is quality writing I can get behind!
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
Jeff Gilbert of Guitar World was the best reviewer ever.
like his review of Grave's Extremely Rotten Live: "Yes, it is."
― Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
wait that stewart dude wrote that about xiu xiu or what did i miss?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)
if he did he will have wittered on about how mastodon and torche fans are republican voting hipster scum who read vice.
ok whoa guys this high on fire is fucking amazing
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
i might give it the nod over blessed black wings also o_O
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
no complaints over the vocals too high in mix?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:36 (fifteen years ago)
have only had a chance to listen to it in the car so far, so i reserve my vote on that until i listen to it on an actual stereo. didnt notice it yet tho
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:38 (fifteen years ago)
ilx" saying "what exactly is your criticism of this?" doesn't seem all that hive-mind to me dude, given that your sole criticism seemed to be "I hate him and so do ppl on metal boards, so that settles it"
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:49 (fifteen years ago)
I love it. Can't get enough of that gurgly voice.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)
Nope, still hate High on Fire. And haven't heard Cathedral yet (but happy to know there are still "insiders" who have some privileges). And am deliberately waiting on Tryptik Frost until I can hear the whole thing.
But in the meantime:
- Eluveitie+Acoustic is good, but Eluveitie+Metal is magnificent.- HIM+Acoustic is good, but HIM+Metal would be my #1 if I had to pick one today. Anti-Nihilist Metal.- Watching my 2yo daughter bopping to Immolation while eating a bowl of Peanut Butter Pows is a great way to start a morning.- The Rotting Christ album is so good that the Diamanda Galas collaboration at the end is an anticlimax.- Dark: Dark Fortress vs Dark Tranquillity; Dark Fortress in a walkover.- Ov: Ov Hell vs Overkill; Ov Hell, but it's closer.- Juliana Hatfield: Best album since-- oh, wait, wrong thread.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:27 (fifteen years ago)
That Eluveitie album isn't doing anything for me at all. Maybe it needs more spins, but it sure hasn't grabbed me like their past stuff.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 February 2010 04:39 (fifteen years ago)
wazzap with the dig at dire straits? "sultans of swing" is one of the best tracks of all time!!
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:07 (fifteen years ago)
pfunk's vitriol towards some random writer dude IS a little o_O but in his defense, I took that comment more like "lots of people on ilx are music journos, so they may be more into flowery music reviews than most"
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
i haven't seen any evidence that ilm likes any kind of critical writing more than any other
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:20 (fifteen years ago)
haha now that I think of it, ilm probably hates flowery music reviews more than most!
but that's just how I read the comment.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:22 (fifteen years ago)
off-topic but this is immediately what I thought of when I saw "worst piece of music writing ever":
http://www.autostraddle.com/why-taylor-swift-offends-little-monsters-feminists-and-weirdos-31525
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:25 (fifteen years ago)
Listen up; if I ever get my life together enough to reproduce other life forms, they will not be joining Taylor Nation – they will be brave, creative, inventive, envelope-pushing little monsters who will find a pretty, skinny white blonde girl in a white peasant shirt strolling through nature-themed screensaver-esque fantasylands singing about how “when you’re fifteen and somebody tells you they love you, you’re gonna believe them” not only sappy, but also insulting to their inevitable brilliance.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:27 (fifteen years ago)
I'm sorry. carry on.
yeah that thing was awful
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:28 (fifteen years ago)
and i think she had a valid point or two but the whole time i was just like "i would hate you if i met you"
but also insulting to their inevitable brilliance.
Seriously, fuck you. I hope your theoretical daughters grow up to be dumb sluts.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really biased and pro-swift/anti-gaga anyway but I just felt like the one or two valid points in there are just absolutely buried under the many, many desperate leaps she's taking to prop up gaga.
x-post
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)
it's an awful, terrible, nonsensical false dichotomy that would only be raised by someone who essentially doesn't understand pop music
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)
totally.
plus, I just hate this clever but not really "bloggy" type of writing that just comes across as someone completely in love with the sound of their own voice blabbing on and on.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)
and I ESPECIALLY hate people that write this way in office emails, let me tell you what!
not slandering all blogs btw. just ones that are written like... that.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:37 (fifteen years ago)
lol i work with software engineers and can barely get a complete sentence out of 'em which is annoying, but yeah emails in the self-regarding blog voice would be much worse
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:39 (fifteen years ago)
lolz I am familiar with that as well
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:41 (fifteen years ago)
I'm gonna watch some homicide episodes and pass out. sorry about bringing swift vs. gaga into this metal dudes
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 05:43 (fifteen years ago)
I am anti-swift and pro-gaga. I am also anti-Perry and pro-Allen.
On a more metal note, complaining about the prominent vocals on hof seems crazy to me.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)
If you hate on this HOF album, you deserve to have the motorhead back-patch torn from your denim jacket and burned before you.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 06:13 (fifteen years ago)
btw (and this is my measure for great rocking party time awesome metal) this cd makes my dog flip out and run around and want to play tug of war. last time he got this nutzoid was for slough feg, so its obvious that the animal has great taste.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2010 06:18 (fifteen years ago)
I am also anti-Perry
oh oh, what did Dan do to you now?
HOF rules (vox-mix sounds fine to me)! fuck the haterz!
― the not-loved one (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 February 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I'm really confused by the haters on this. I guess I can hear that the vocals are high in the mix, but to me thats part of why its so fucking great. His vocals sound just right to me. I just unequivocally loved it from first listen and am surprised that this would be the album to really split opinion on them.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:25 (fifteen years ago)
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Oh man if this is true. I havent heard it yet, cant wait.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
ok so I guess I have to listen to the new HOF when I'm not working and doin thangs
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/107031291_c015acf0ee_o.jpg
^^^thangs I was doin during my first listen to the new HOF
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
Got my copy of the Best Buy version w/three bonus tracks (two live ones, but one extra new studio song) in today's mail.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)
This might be obscure for many of you but Tommy Atkins from incredible prog/doomsters The Great Tyrant (formerly Yeti) died yesterday. RIP :(
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 February 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)
Did he die fighting in the first world war?
― Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Friday, 26 February 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know how many ILMers are gonna be at SXSW, but I'm gonna be attending for the first time ever, because my friend Wes Orshoski, who directed the documentary Lemmy, has asked me to come down and interview Lemmy for an hour, live on stage. So if you're gonna be in town anyway, stop on by.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 26 February 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
that's awesome phil!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 26 February 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
btw i went to the store yesterday to pick up the high on fire and some other stuff and spent a minute looking around for the more expensive super-special edition with a dvd or a 5.1 mix or whatever. only this morning did i realize they're no longer on relapse!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 26 February 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
awww, man. bummer news. yeti were a totally cool band but I never checked out the great tyrant. probably should.
I love the single-sided 12" with the yes-styled logo. and didn't someone in yeti die at an early age too? :-/
― original bgm, Friday, 26 February 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
Oh happy day:
The Eve Of UFOMAMMUT's Finest Day... Eve - the eagerly awaited new studio album from Italy's most cerebral and mammoth doom act UFOMMAMUT - has been completed, and is eagerly awaiting release onto the masses. Appropriately titled, Eve is the fifth official album from the obliterating trio. The album - comprised of one 45-minute atmospheric track, divided into five distinct movements - acts as a living homage to the first woman on Earth, and the rebellion to her creator for bringing knowledge to Mankind. Recorded at Locomotore Studio in Roma, Italy by Lorenzo Stecconi (who also acted as sound lord on the band's 2007 epic Idolum), Eve is a new step in the sonic adventure of UFOMAMMUT; another level in the band's research. Rounding out at an incredibly action-packed 44:44, the album passes through the same massive atmospheres as Idolum, layered with mastodonic riffage as heard on the band's Snailking release, yet also bears some of the apparition-like passages the band displayed so well on their Lucifer Songs LP, while still formulating a forward-thinking approach to the release. Check out a video montage of the making of this monstrosity here: http://www.youtube.com/EarsplitPR#p/f/7/F3vvDBZDyOw. UFOMAMMUT's status as one of the most potent, powerful and artistic contemporary doom artists in existence continues to captivate the masses, and the band's worldwide grasp grows wider with each release. With continual appearances at Roadburn and other notable Euro fests under their belt, and intermittent regional European touring already something the band is used to, the band are set on more widespread actions in 2010. UFOMAMMUT made their American live debut in 2009, when they undertook a west coast mini-tour, coinciding with an art tour bearing works born of the trio's own world famous Malleus Rock Art Lab. More live plans for both continents are imminent throughout the year. To be released worldwide on May 5th via Malleus' own Supernatural Cat Records, Eve is an undeniably infectious and utterly devastating piece of doom metal art that shall surely be a major player for the year. Watch for more announcements on the band throughout the year.
― Doran, Friday, 26 February 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)
finally listened to that new EP by acrassicauda. that iraqi band from the documentary. they really like old metallica albums. which is cool. so do i. gotta give it up to Vice Records. they gave these dudes a handsome package to sell.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)
I didn't expect the Acrassicauda to be that good, but yeah, Skolnick has molded these guys into a very promising band. A far cry from playing "The Final Countdown" in a hotel in Baghdad.
And congrats on the Lemmy gig, Phil! Wish I was going to sxsw.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 February 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
How long are the songs on that EP? Just curious because the pre-order on iTunes has it priced as a full-length album.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
They're average length; it's about 20 minutes of music all together.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
Get it from Amazon; it's $3.96 for MP3s or $6.99 for a physical disc. (The new Hayaino Daisuki is a real ripoff - $9.99 for a 12-minute CD. Maybe it comes in a DVD case like the Discordance Axis albums did, though.)
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for the info. I'd taken to buying most EPs via iTunes lately, just because it usually seems to be the cheaper route - not in this case apparently.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 February 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I just got my copy of the new HOF. Am I missing something on these complaints about the production? This thing sounds awesome to me, no complaints at all. This is a fantastic album, much better than Communion, even though I liked that one.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 26 February 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
Holy shit: Fire Flood and Plague.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 26 February 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)
theyre great songs, i just dislike the vocal mix, but if it sounds better on cd (or in my case vinyl) then that's great to know!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)
it will prob be my album of 2010 but the mix i heard i didnt like the vocal production, so it couldve been even better.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 February 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
vocal mix isn't the problem with this (i just got to it today btw)--it's that there's no top end unless a guitar lead is happening and the drums have been COMPLETELY NEUTERED. like the opening to the 7th track should be majestic and awesome but really kinda isn't cause the snare and cymbals are so fuckin weak.
too bad, there's a lot to like: i actually really dig pike playing up the vocal performance, he seems to be having a lot of fun with it. and there's more bass on here than any other hof record. songwriting seems really sharp on once pass; more so than death is this communion which meandered a lot. but i think this is always going to sound a little caged to me.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 26 February 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
in other words there's always gonna be a feeling "it could've been even better"
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 February 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
yeah--as of now i mean i like it, i'm gonna listen to it a good amount, but it might well be fatally flawed for me
― call all destroyer, Friday, 26 February 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)
finally listening to Necrophagist's Onset of Putrefaction after the tool who I bought it from on half.com lost my package....amazon to the rescue....
On first listen, man programmed drums really take away but the guitar makes up for it. still tho drums are a heavy part of what i love about death metal and programmed drums just dont' do it.
― Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:17 (fifteen years ago)
ok so the one song on the HOF that isnt doing it for me at all is "How Dark We Pray"
― RAYBAN L01US J@gg3r (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
In case you haven't picked up the Best Buy version with the three bonus tracks (which are awesome)...
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:30 (fifteen years ago)
thx man!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)
not available in the uk cheers!
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)
um wtf is a .sitx?
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:48 (fifteen years ago)
You just need a stuffit extracting thing. Like WinRar and all that, easy stuff.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks, by the way! No Best Buy where I am.
nothing i have will extract it argh
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 February 2010 01:52 (fifteen years ago)
got it using stuffit
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 February 2010 02:13 (fifteen years ago)
New Alcest and Apostle Of Solitude albums are very good.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 February 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)
Jeff and I agreeing on something should shock you all.
I still can't believe HoF did a fuckin' Best Buy exclusive.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Saturday, 27 February 2010 04:36 (fifteen years ago)
i assume it's because they now record for noted trashy label "e1 music" aka koch records
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 04:38 (fifteen years ago)
Indeed. The Alcest is just unreal, I think. I don't know if it'll ever have the same emotional resonance with me as the last one did (long story), but there are big improvements on all fronts on this one.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 27 February 2010 05:03 (fifteen years ago)
New Alcest and Apostle Of Solitude albums are very good.Indeed. The Alcest is just unreal, I think. I don't know if it'll ever have the same emotional resonance with me as the last one did (long story), but there are big improvements on all fronts on this one.― A. Begrand
― A. Begrand
Never listened to Alcest before today, but I just bought Souvenirs... on iTunes because of this thread, and it's so good. Man, thanks!
― ksh, Sunday, 28 February 2010 04:15 (fifteen years ago)
Life is short, therefore I try to stay disciplined about ignoring new music by bands I already know I don't like.
Try, and often fail. You people here are to blame as often as anybody. No, damn it, I still hate High on Fire, no matter how much anybody raves about it. Why did you make me listen again to prove it? And I will not fall for cheap bait like "The Alcest is just unreal". No way. I didn't like the other Alcest album very much, so there's no way "big improvements on all fronts" could convert something I didn't like very much into something I like. Not that I can actually remember why I didn't like the other Alcest record. I probably gave it a few weeks of carefully studied attention, and then reluctantly concluded, in full cognizance of its virtues and flaws, that the latter outweighed the former in my personal listening life. Either that or I listened to the first 5 seconds of each of 3 :30 samples on iTunes and none of them was what I happened to be in the mood for at that specific moment. But, you know, close enough.
Oh, crap, OK already, I'll download the damn new Alcest one and listen to one song all the way through, while I'm playing Scramble or something. OK, two songs. OK, the whole album, but only because I'm having a good Scramble run and can't be bothered to think about what else to listen to. Oh, crap, OK already, it's fantastic. Much better than that shitty first album, how could I have been expected to know that? His fault for lowballing the debut, obviously. I mean, if you're going to make a crap record and then a fantastic record, what the hell are people supposed to do? I mean, here, I'll show you what I mean. Lemme download the first one again, obviously I deleted it after those weeks of careful study I mentioned. Now see, listen to how lame this first song is. Oh, actually the first one is great, but it all falls apart on the second one. Third one, I mean. Second half of the record totally blows, I mean.
Oh hell, I don't remember any of this, and it's seriously great. Maybe I was confusing Alcest with Ulver or something.
[Nobody start on Ulver. Seriously, I don't have the time.]
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 March 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)
Did a little bit of shopping to perk up a gray Monday:
Corrupted - Paso Inferior (the clerk was uber-stoked that I was buying this, kept gushing about how awesome it is)Nachtmysitum - Instinct: Decay
and shit, just noticed they put the fucking wrong Lair of the Minotaur disc in the package. Supposed to be Carnage, but they gave me the disc for War Metal Battle Master which I already have. Fuuuuuuck. Now I have to make a 2 hour round trip train tip to return it. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 March 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
sweet, my Festered cd came in the mail today! and immolation's dawn of possession. as much as a fanboy as I've been, never owned this!
― Ballistic, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)
Supposed to be Carnage, but they gave me the disc for War Metal Battle Master which I already have. Fuuuuuuck. Now I have to make a 2 hour round trip train tip to return it. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
demand a house call!
Haha, I wish! Maybe that was bit of an overreaction earlier, but lesson learned - always check to make sure you get what you paid for when you leave a shop that is really inconvenient to go back to!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:17 (fifteen years ago)
true tho I can't say I always do. and sometimes it's hard to tell if yr not familiar with the design on the cd (altho I guess you were since you owned it, lol).
― Ballistic, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)
It was one of those stores where they keep just the sleeves out front and the jewel cases and discs back in the shelves behind the counter (which I'm generally a fan of for ease in flipping through!) the dude just slipped the sleeve into the latter LotM case. I mean, I glimpsed at it but saw "Lair of the Minotuar" and figured I was fine. Didn't notice til I was actually looking at the track names and was like.... "wait a minute...".
Anyway. Any thoughts on the Corrupted disc that the clerk was enthusing about? Curious to hear what you guys think. I won't get to listen to it until tomorrow, because I want to make sure I have the whole 40 minutes for my undivided attention.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)
Corrupted only have a few full-lengths, and they're all good. That one's one of their least experimental, as I recall - it's just straight crushing heaviness from front to back. They display their softer side on El Mundo Frio and the second disc of the two-disc Se Hace Por Los Sueños Asesinos (my personal favorite of their discography).
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)
My mistake; the double disc is Llenandose de Gusanos (which is apparently out of print now).
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:34 (fifteen years ago)
llenandose is my fave as well.
but yeah, I agree. all corrupted is worthwhile. wouldn't put paso inferior in the top tier but it's still cool.
nadie is probably my favorite of the readily available stuff but you should poke around for mp3s of their singles. lots of amazing stuff out there that is frustratingly out of print. (though rumors of a singles collection have been going around for years.)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)
love this one:
― original bgm, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)
Sounds like I have some exploring to do.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
If you're feeling lazy...
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 03:14 (fifteen years ago)
Why I just may be feeling a little bit lazy tonight. Thanks.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, February 19, 2010 3:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
i'm late to the party, but this ^
― borntohula, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 03:23 (fifteen years ago)
It was one of those stores where they keep just the sleeves out front and the jewel cases and discs back in the shelves behind the counter (which I'm generally a fan of for ease in flipping through!) the dude just slipped the sleeve into the latter LotM case.
Haha, that happened to me in 1988, the clerk gave me Helloween's Keeper of the Seven Keys Part One instead of Part Two. I was so pumped for that album, so I was quite irate when I found out at home. Plus I had to go back and like a total nerdy idiot explain that there were two parts to this silly power metal thing.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 04:08 (fifteen years ago)
And I agree, the new Rotting Christ is really good, better than Theogonia, which is a strong record in its own right. It would have been good without the Diamanda Galas track, but the performance winds up knocking that album out of the park.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)
Plus I had to go back and like a total nerdy idiot explain that there were two parts to this silly power metal thing.
lol
― original bgm, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)
so Belus is worth checking out?
― borntohula, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
i'm not familiar with burzum at all.
I think so. But if you're not familiar, its a good idea to hear Filosofem and Hvis Lyset Tar Oss first.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
sveet. thanks!
― borntohula, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
By the way, Adrien, love to hear you expound on your FB status from earlier about the new Ratt album.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)
Unless you will be reviewing it for somewhere and I'll wait patiently.
It feels like a total return to their 80s form, it nails the same feel of Dancin' Undercover. Very upbeat and hooky with those sharp DeMartini riffs. It sounds like a band that's learned to embrace what made them so great 25 years ago instead of trying to keep up with the times.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 03:45 (fifteen years ago)
Huh, well I'm certainly going to move that from my 'totally uninterested' pile to the 'worth a listen' pile.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 03:48 (fifteen years ago)
I'm with Adrien. The new Ratt disc is a really, really pleasant surprise.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 04:04 (fifteen years ago)
Okay, with two of you chiming in I am convinced to give it a shot. Might have to wait til after this Corrupted kick.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)
So the new Armored Saint album is good fun. There's a lot more groove/funk-fueled stuff than ever before, but the classic heavy metal element that made these guys so great is always there. I haven't decided if it's better than Revelation (it's definitely not as great as Symbol of Salvation, Delirious Nomad, or March of the Saint for that matter), but it has its moments.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 09:25 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't listened to this yet, but I have a feeling regulars of this thread, especially people who lean toward the moodier, more genre-blurring end of black metal, will find something to love in it.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
I'm definitely going to check that out, thanks.
Also, I'm surprised it took that long for someone to come up with a black metal version of the Buddha Machine.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fiCpKyQrCR0/S2iykmjmzoI/AAAAAAAAAhA/41T9gjqMhPc/s1600-h/BlackBoxPhoto.jpg
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)
that flingco comp is really good. got it thru the pussygutt dude's blog. i don't know that pussygutt counts as metal but everything they do slays.
― adam, Thursday, 4 March 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)
FROST HAMMER
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:50 (fifteen years ago)
also if i may AEALO is dope as shit
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 March 2010 05:53 (fifteen years ago)
So I'm looking through the nominees list for the metal poll, and I see that Antigama's 'Warning' wasn't nominated - if I'd known I would have thrown that name in the hat because I just heard it a week ago and it's fucking insanely good, like Nasum good. Would've been by number 2 pick for sure. Ah well, you always miss something.
In other news, for anyone here who gets BBC Four on their telly, the Iron Maiden doc Flight 666 is on tonight at 11pm. It's part of a short Metal Britannia season that features a whole night of metal tomorrow from 9pm (a 90-minute doc thing along the lines of the Factory Records one last year, some live BBC performances, a Maiden concert vid, and the Rock Family Trees ep on Black Sabbath). About bloody time, too.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 4 March 2010 10:18 (fifteen years ago)
Also I'm sure some of these will show up in the usual spots if they aren't already available.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 4 March 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah the Flingco comp is pretty good, although less Metal than I was expecting.
Sob, my copy of the Black Box went missing in the Post somewhere between San Francisco & London. I still hope it may show up one day, but its been something like 6 months now.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 4 March 2010 13:16 (fifteen years ago)
Blood of the Black Owl 'A Banishing Ritual (Into White)'
This dude's albums just get better and better. The final few minutes of the new one sounds like Burial Hex mixed with Dark Side of the Moon and Cluster.
And he looks like Asterix The Gaul. Stood in a forest.
― Doran, Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
"...the new one is going to be better than ten Super Bowls! I don't want to oversell it, judge for yourself."
― Chokoreeto Kurosawa (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, if I was American and watched sport I'd probably get what you're driving at. As it is...
― Doran, Thursday, 4 March 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)
New Exodus is actually... really good? I can never get very far into Atrocity Exhibition, but The Human Condition has some seriously great riffs, and it sounds like Rob Dukes has added an extra dimension to his vocals, so he's now two dimensional. I'm not sure it can maintain the energy for the entire runtime, but I'm halfway through and it's still going strong.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
I've really dug the recent incarnation of Exodus, and I expect the new CD to be a strong one (might give it a listen this afternoon). Their recent DVD is also lots of fun. Seeing them on Monday with Megadeth & Testament!
Meanwhile, though it's too early to call, there are some serious album-of-the-year vibes coming from the new Nachtmystium album. I already like it more than Assassins.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
Very anxious to hear the Nachtmystium. Glad to hear positive things.
I love the last Exodus quite a bit.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)
Exodus have never been one of my favorite thrash bands -- they've always struck me as a little too single-minded. Still, they do impress me on occasion, and this is one of those occasions.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)
Never liked Exodus. Didn't like 'em in 1990, when I saw 'em with Suicidal Tendencies and Pantera, and don't like 'em now.
So who's going to the Iron Maiden/Dream Theater tour? This'll be my fifth time seeing them, my third at Madison Square Garden. I've also seen 'em at Hammerstein Ballroom and at PNC Bank Arts Center in Jersey (part of Ozzfest). I can't wait; they're the best live act in big-time metal. Better than Priest, better than Metallica.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 4 March 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)
I'll be there June 29! So excited...it'll just be my third. And I agree, easily the best live band in metal.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 4 March 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
I'd love to see them but they aren't playing a show in New England. I can't do a ten or twelve hour round trip for a show anymore.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago)
Tried to listen to the new Exodus tonight. Made it one-and-a-half songs in. They really do nothing for me.
Listened to the new Dillinger Escape Plan today too. The electronic stuff I liked from Ire Works is all gone.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 5 March 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, this is the first tim a Dillinger album hasn't completely floored me. Not that it's a bad album, it's well done, but they're sounding predictable for the first time. I was really hoping for something as daring as Ire Works.
And I like the new Exodus! But like that damn Heathen album it does go on for too long.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)
Just read your blog entry on Armored Saint, Adrien. I agree with all your praise of Bush and the band, but gotta say I thought he was a much better frontman for Anthrax than Belladonna ever was. I always hated that dude, even back in '88 or whenever, when I first heard Among the Living. I couldn't understand why a band capable of writing such killer thrash riffs had that screeching clown up front.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 5 March 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)
From the second I heard "Madhouse" in '85, I loved Belladonna as Anthrax's singer. It was such an unusual combination at the time. But like I said, I think Bush's time in Anthrax was marred by the fact that the rest of the band couldn't write many good songs anymore.
Anyway, the dude should stop dicking around with Anthrax Mk XXVIII and stick to Armored Saint. It's clear they're the band with a real good thing going right now.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 5 March 2010 04:28 (fifteen years ago)
Anthrax probably pays a heck of a lot better, though.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Friday, 5 March 2010 06:00 (fifteen years ago)
Apparently not everybody knows that. I read a review once (and I can't remember where) that actually claimed Helloween never made a part II to the Keeper saga.
― Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
need some 90's metal, and all I have is Eyehategod. any suggestions?
― subversive time travel (FACK), Sunday, 7 March 2010 03:39 (fifteen years ago)
Sepultura
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 7 March 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
Prong
― Doran, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
what kind of 90's metal? death metal acceptable to include (as that is the brunt of my 90's ownership)?
I second Sepultura above, particularly "Arise" and "Beneath the Remains" (not technically 90's but close enough). Below are some 'essential' purchases from various subgenres.
Crowbar (s/t or Time Heals Nothing)The Haunted--s/tCathedral--Forests of EquilibriumImmolation--Dawn of Possession, Here in After, Failures for GodsEmperor--Anthems to the Welkin at DuskDeath--SymbolicMy Dying Bride--Turn Loose the SwansNevermore--Dreaming Neon BlackSlayer--Divine InterventionDying Fetus--Destroy the Opposition (ok this was technically 2000 but close enough)Suffocation--Pierced from WithinOpeth--any of the releases reallyCarcass--same except for Swansong
etc etc
― Ballistic, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
OK, so that Alcest album that converted me to liking Alcest was, in fact, a fake leak! Only one of the six songs was Alcest. I've listened to the real leak now, and like it much less than the fake one! So I'm back to not caring much about Alcest, but investigating Pest Productions, the Chinese label whose comps the other five songs came from! Skyy, Soliness, Heretoir and Dopamine!
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
yah, that's pretty much what I wanted, 90's death and black metal, cause I've only been listening to recent metal, and I hadn't any 90's metal. so ya, thanks.
― subversive time travel (FACK), Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, did I mention I'm giving shit away on MSN? Enter today!
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
Phil, is there any way you could get the powers-that-be at MSN to enable an RSS feed for your blog?
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
best believe i entered that shit....
― Ballistic, Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
Weird, I'm not liking the other bands from that Alcest fake nearly as much when they're on their own, either. What a weird testament to the power of (imaginary) context.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
It's a persistent issue. I'm hoping they'll get it resolved soon, 'cause traffic keeps going up, especially when they link posts on the MSN Music homepage, which they're gonna do tomorrow - I'm posting an interview with Marwan Riyadh, the drummer from Acrassicauda.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
Awesome! Would love to subscribe to it in Google Reader.
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, the irony of complaining about the lack of an RSS feed on RSS-less ILM...
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
i don't really mind that ILX doesn't have RSS, but i definitely prefer feeds for blogs. :-)
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, and that was Shyy, not Skyy, on the fake Alcest leak. My apologies to disco.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 March 2010 05:04 (fifteen years ago)
Here's a link to my interview with Marwan Riyadh of Acrassicauda.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 March 2010 13:27 (fifteen years ago)
Has anyone heard the full Triptykon album yet? The myspace tracks sound great. I've grown to love Monotheist and these seem a logical progression from that record. Thoughts?
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 March 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
Haven't heard any of it yet actually, off to check those MySpace tracks. If it does sound like Monotheist, I will be thrilled!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 March 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
Someone posted that they had the complete Triptykon album and Unleashed's new one, which I'm also curious about. I'm really looking forward to hearing more of the Triptykon album -- the myspace tracks sound promising and the cover art looks really great as well.
― witch ghetto defendant, Monday, 8 March 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)
"OK, so that Alcest album that converted me to liking Alcest was, in fact, a fake leak!"― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, March 7, 2010 7:48 PM
Interesting. I think I have the fake leak as well, but it wasn't working its magic on me anyway. I noticed the track lengths were different from what's listed on Metallum and was thinking I might not have the right one.
I'm really jealous of all those who have heard the new Cathedral.They do have one track streaming on their myspace now for anybody who hasn't yet gotten a taste:
http://www.myspace.com/cathedral
― witch ghetto defendant, Monday, 8 March 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
I have the Tryptikon and Unleashed albums - and the new Nachtmystium, too. The Tryptikon is very Monotheist-ic, and the Unleashed album is an Unleashed album. I haven't listened to the Nachtmystium disc all the way through yet.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
Im jealous of Phil
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
The Tryptikon is very Monotheist-ic,
Sold. All I needed to hear.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
Nachtmystium's the best thing I've heard in 2010 so far.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
What I said about it on Twitter on Friday:
The vocals are much too comprehensible on this new Nachtmystium disc. If you're gonna enunciate so clearly, dude, write better lyrics.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
The intro track is actually kind of funny. But this album kills, it's like they were listening to a lot of Killing Joke prior to writing.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
Seeing Orphaned Land tnite!
― Mordy, Monday, 8 March 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0)
I'm right with ya. I'll pre-order it tomorrow at my local store - it's out in two weeks!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
i'm not sure if it fits in here, but the s/t daughters album is crazy.
― borntohula, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 03:53 (fifteen years ago)
That Daughters album is great, indeed. They keep getting better.
Saw the retro thrash bacchanal of Megadeth, Testament, and Exodus tonight, and it was great. 95% of the tunes came from before 1991, Megadeth doing Rust in Peace of course, Testament doing The Legacy (+ "Into the Pit"), and Exodus playing a fabulous set of 85-89 material. So much fun was had (the RIP deep cuts were the clear highlights, and it was great to see Ellefson back), it was like 1990 all over again, but with a little more grey hair in the crowd.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 05:32 (fifteen years ago)
Cathedral is the best metal album I've heard this year so far. Although the sample of the baby crying is quite upsetting.
― Doran, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)
Finally getting to the Tryptikon album...is it better than Monotheist? I don't think so. But like Phil said, it's definitely cut from the same cloth, and what's not to like about that? I just love Fischer's vocals these days, he sounds infinitely more evil than he did in the early '80s.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 09:52 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know about "more evil" but he sounds so good these days you kind of wonder what the hell he was trying to do between ITP and Monotheist.
― Chokoreeto Kurosawa (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:04 (fifteen years ago)
In the Triptykon interview in Decibel, Tom apparently just overlooks Apollyon Sun entirely?
― Chokoreeto Kurosawa (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
Orphaned Land concert did not disappoint!
― Mordy, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
I keep waking up each morning this week and realizing that I'm going to see Voivod this Saturday.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
You're so lucky. Voivod inexplicably skipped my province again. Still have never seen them in 26 years!
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)
Um, yeah, really bummed about being unemployed and broke this week.
Friday night @ Bottom Lounge: Kreator, Voivod, Nachtmystium, EvileSunday night @ Bottom Lounge: Orphaned Land, Indian, A Storm of Light
Not that either are all that expensive, just so not in the cards for me right now.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
ratsi would like to go to the friday show but i have to WORK on saturday morning at 9 :(wouldn't be a big deal if i weren't a lol teacher
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:43 (fifteen years ago)
Nachtmystium's the best thing I've heard in 2010 so far.new LP? in its entirety? where?
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
Think its just the press promo, I don't believe its floating around out there just yet.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)
"You're so lucky. Voivod inexplicably skipped my province again. Still have never seen them in 26 years!"
It's a rare and wonderful thing. This will be my 4th time. Outer Limits tour, Phobos, Voivod, and now Infini.
I badly wanted to see Nothingface tour but it was at a 21+ club and no fake id would have ever worked for me. When I was 16 I looked 11.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)
I've never seen 'em either, but I've never tried. Might catch 'em in a week, though, as they're on the bill with Motörhead at SXSW.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)
I interviewed Dark Tranquillity frontman Mikael Stanne; we did a track-by-track rundown of the new album. Here 'tis. http://bit.ly/cC1cXC
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
Holy crap, the new Yakuza album is something else. I loved Samsara and was quite indifferent to Transmutations...Of Seismic Consequence is a huge return to form.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 March 2010 08:12 (fifteen years ago)
Interviewed Anders Johansson, drummer for Hammerfall, in this week's Cleveland Scene.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 11 March 2010 13:00 (fifteen years ago)
Also wrote a thing about Ludicra on MSN; the new album is really impressive.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 11 March 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)
http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/huge-metal-fan.gif
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
I saw you guys were talking about Yakuza ... the Chicago Reader profiled Bloodiest, another band with the singer from Yakuza, this week: http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/bloodiest-chicago-tony-lazzara-bruce-lamont/Content?oid=1515439
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)
they have one song here, sounds pretty awesome: http://www.myspace.com/brucelamont (I don't know anything about Yakuza btw)
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for that...that one track really cool.
Lamont also sings on the last track of the Nachtmystium album.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 March 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
Jon, if you're getting promos, can't you get on the guestlist? Just say you'll toss off a review on a blog.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 11 March 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
Has anyone else noticed Soulfly's increasing similarities to Dethklok?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Metallica-Fans-Riot-At-Gig-In-Bogota-Colombia-Leaving-Eight-Injured-And-Around-160-Arrested/Article/201003215572180?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15572180_Metallica_Fans_Riot_At_Gig_In_Bogota%2C_Colombia_Leaving_Eight_Injured_And_Around_160_Arrested
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
The police, who were expecting crowd trouble, had deployed 1,500 officers, four tanks and several police trucks to manage the event.
Man, South American metal fans are intense.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Unexpected metal score today!!! \m/
Was downtown for a (failed) networking event and saw that F.Y.E. (which I honestly didn't even know still existed in Chicago) was having a sale of $9.99 for all CDs. Figured it would be crap, but had some time to kill and ended up walking out with Through Silver in Blood for $10. I decided awhile back to not download this even though I've been aching to hear it since about, oh, 2004. Wanted to hold out for hearing my own copy. Finally get to indulge now!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 March 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
Man, that Colombian Metallica riot was one of the wimpiest riots I've ever seen.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 11 March 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for the Ludicra plug Phil! Glad you finally got into them. They really are the best USBM. :)
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 11 March 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad to see they are doing two shows in SF this spring, especially since I can't make the Pentagram one. :)
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
Ludicra's evolution is really starting to parallel that of Enslaved, you can hear a lot of similarities between The Tenant and Vetebrae. Cobbett really seals the deal in my opinion, he throws in some flamboyant Slough Feg/Hammers-style gallops and solos that he never really did on a Ludicra record before.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 March 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
LUDICRA - DECANCELATION TOUR 2010
Wed 03/24 - San Francisco, CA @ DNA Lounge w/Pentagram, Slough Feg, Orchid
Thu 04/01 - Portland, OR @ Berbati's Pan w/Jonny X and the Groadies, Transient, Dj Nate CFri 04/02 - Olympia, WA @ Capitol Theater w/Pierced ArrowsSat 04/03 - Seattle, WA @ The Morgue w/Anhedonist, Elksblood, Forest of GreySun 04/04 - Boise, ID @ RedroomMon 04/05 - Salt Lake City, UT @ Burt's Tiki Lounge w/SubRosa, Ninth ZealotTue 04/06 - Denver, CO @ Blast-o-mat w/Velnias, Death of Self, DripfedWed 04/07 - Lincoln, NE @ Duffy's w/EzraThu 04/08 - St Paul, MN @ Turf ClubFri 04/09 - Milwaukee, WI @ Jackpot GallerySat 04/10 - Chicago @ The Cave w/Clad in DarknessSun 04/11 - Indianapolis, IN @ Melody InnMon 04/12 - Lansing, MI @ Mac's Bar w/Wastelander, SauronTue 04/13 - Rochester, NY @ Bug Jar w/Krallice, CrucifistWed 04/14 - Toronto, ON @ Rancho Relaxo w/KralliceThu 04/15 - Montreal, QC @ Il Motore w/KralliceFri 04/16 - Portland, ME @ Geno's w/Ocean, Krallice, Aok Suicide ForestSat 04/17 - Boston, MA @ O'Briens (2pm day show) w/Tombs, KralliceSun 04/18 - Brooklyn, NY @ Europa w/Krallice, Castevet, AttakeMon 04/19 - Philadelphia @ M Room w/Lair of the Minotaur, Tombs, KralliceTue 04/20 - Baltimore, MD @ Hexagon w/Tombs, KralliceWed 04/21 - Richmond, VA @ The Triple w/KralliceThu 04/22 - Atlanta, GA @ Drunken Unicorn w/Music Hates YouFri 04/23 - Knoxville, TN @ Pilot LightSat 04/24 - Little Rock, AR @ Downtown MusicSun 04/25 - Austin, TX @ Emo's w/Mammoth GrinderMon 04/26 - Ft Worth, TX @ Lola's w/The Great TyrantTue 04/27 - Las Cruces, NM @ The TrainyardWed 04/28 - Mesa, AZ @ Nile Basement w/Black Hell, Landmine Marathon, NightgauntThu 04/29 - San Diego, CA @ Radio Room Fri 04/30 - Los Angeles, CA @ Sabor Lounge w/WinterthrallSat 05/01 - Santa Cruz, CA @ Coaster's w/Dusted Angel
Sat 05/08 - San Francisco, CA @ Cafe Du Nord w/Kowloon Walled City - cd release show for The Tenant
― Nate Carson, Friday, 12 March 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)
If any of you folks can help with publicity in any of these markets, hit me at nanotear AT hotmail and I'll get you in touch with the publicist at Profound Lore.
Agreed about Enslaved/Ludicra analogy. Europe's finest and USA's finest. They would go well together IMO.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 12 March 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)
will def be at the berbati's show
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Friday, 12 March 2010 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
Hmm. The new Invisible Oranges layout is going to take some getting used to.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 March 2010 04:05 (fifteen years ago)
Non-snarky question from someone who likes metal and wants to get into it more: is Invisible Oranges a site worth following?
― ksh, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:45 (fifteen years ago)
It usually makes for an interesting read, even if I don't always agree with the opinions. I've found it most useful for pointing me in the direction of unsigned bands worth checking out.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 March 2010 04:47 (fifteen years ago)
Sweet, thanks! I'm going to read through some of the pieces there.
Just recently bought the latest Decibel too, which so far has been a good read.
― ksh, Friday, 12 March 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Decibel is great. Honestly, the best thing to do to really get into metal? Just start buying shit. Really. I was in your position back in 2004, trying to get back into metal after more than a decade of not really keeping up with it. I just started sampling from all over, grabbing albums by bands I'd never heard before or even heard of. Heard a lot of horrible shit and a lot of great shit. But it really helped me focus on on the subgenres that did the most for me. Since then I feel like I've developed a definite "taste" in the metal I love. You just need to dive in and surround yourself with the music. Take chances. As great as Decibel is, don't let it dominate your selections. Browse Terrorizer, browse BW&BK, browse whatever mags you see at the newsstand. You'll be better off and find yourself exposed to quite a wide variety.
Anyway, hope that helps somewhat.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 March 2010 04:59 (fifteen years ago)
BW&BK is dead, unfortunately. As a print mag, anyway. They're dropping like flies these days.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 12 March 2010 05:08 (fifteen years ago)
so sad.
― scott seward, Friday, 12 March 2010 05:18 (fifteen years ago)
i voted for a BW&BK knuckletracks cd for my village voice pazz & jop ballot one year.
― scott seward, Friday, 12 March 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)
ksh: there are a bunch of really, really good mixes here: http://ghostradio-archive.blogspot.com/
I don't know who the guy is that does 'em but he knows his shit, like, immensely. The one I am rocking right now is #XXI, the newest one...fucking incredible. they're all beautifully put together & grouped well & will give you lots to dig into. I
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Friday, 12 March 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)
what kind of publicity are you looking for nate? i would be happy to poster up my geetar store and disseminate to a couple other metal friendly shops, but all my remaining radio contacts are indie fuxors so ;_;
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Friday, 12 March 2010 05:30 (fifteen years ago)
Well I'm generally looking for writers here who can pitch something to their local weekly. But I would never turn down a true blue grassroots offer to put up posters in shops. Hit me offline and I'll get some posters sent your way. Cheers! :)
― Nate Carson, Friday, 12 March 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)
Fenriz schools the WWW on the metal-punk intersection: http://www.viceland.com/music/2010/03/a-fist-in-the-face-of-god-fenriz-presents%E2%80%A6-trapped-under-vice-vol-iii/
gonna DL it later I reckon
― Get a Grip (if Grip is the name of my dog) (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 March 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
45:44 Dr. Know (USA) “War Theatre” (1988) From grossly underestimated album.
yay fenriz likes my hometown heroes
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 March 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
that album is fucking great (they went from being one of the best pre-crossover bands to being a great metal band), but it has one of the worst possible covers for a metal album:
http://i43.tinypic.com/244s3v9.jpg
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 March 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
Was downtown for a (failed) networking event and saw that F.Y.E. (which I honestly didn't even know still existed in Chicago) was having a sale of $9.99 for all CDs.
That sale started nearly a year ago. I thought it meant they were closing soon, but they are still refreshing inventory with new releases. Pickings are scattered, but I have had good luck with hard rock and metal, such as High On Fire, Baroness, Minsk and Kylesa. Double CDs and special editions, however, are more than full priced.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
BTW, Metal Haven in Chicago is still open, not sure for how long. Still selling inventory at 15% off as far as I know, and new releases full price. I might head there today after having lunch at Kuma's.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
srsly weak varg interview at haunting the chapel. why bother if all yr gonna get/run is varg self-mythologizing and backhandedly denying/dodging his general horribleness?
― adam, Friday, 12 March 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
Because he's an ilx lurker! Best Band Varg Vikernes Is Currently Listening to?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 12 March 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
Burzum-inspired poll on my MSN blog.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 12 March 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Why WASP canceled their NYC gig last night:
*****
An unfortunate incident arose this evening at The Gramercy Theater in NYC that we need to let you know about. It prevented W.A.S.P. from performing this show, and caused us to disappoint many of our NY fans and friends. About 50 VIP tickets were sold to about 50 different fans for $50.00 apiece, twice the normal ticket price for this show. It turned out that part of that VIP ticket price included a meet and greet with W.A.S.P. These tickets were sold to these 50 or so fans without W.A.S.P. having any knowledge of this, let alone agreeing to this. Upon learning of this late in the afternoon of the show day, W.A.S.P. insisted that the promoter of this venue, who sold these VIP tickets to these fans, return the V.I.P. portion of those tickets back to the fans. This meant that the promoter would have had to give each of those VIP ticket holders a refund of $25.00 of each ticket. W.A.S.P. demanded that this $25.00 be returned to each of these ticket holders in cash prior to the meet and greet, which W.A.S.P was still going to do. The promoter refused. W.A.S.P. then informed the promoter unless these monies were refunded to these fans, in cash, that the band would not perform the show. Again, the promoter refused and W.A.S.P. canceled the show. We are saddened that it had to result in the cancellation of our performance for this evening, but we believe this unfortunate situation amounts to nothing more than our fans being ripped off. We have never changed a fan for an autograph and WILL NEVER charge any fans for an autograph. To all the fans that came to the show and were turned away, please accept our sincerest apologies. W.A.S.P. CANNOT and WILL NOT ever stand by and watch or be involved in their fans being ripped off... EVER.Thank you. Blackie Lawless
It took me about 15 seconds to come up with a better solution - do the meet & greet, have a roadie take everyone's name and address or email address, and have the promoter send them all a check or a Paypal payment or something.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
I just can't believe anyone would pay $25 to see W.A.S.P.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, that's a case where shit clearly must've devolved into people yelling.there's no reasonable way to refund these people in cash. also, how did the band not know about a meet and greet until afternoon of the show? shouldn't the tour manager be on top of checking the venue websites?
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 12 March 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
Shows how often I'm in that area. Like I said, didn't even know there was that store left. Yeah, the 2-disc sets are ridiculously priced. They had a couple of The Fall reissue special editions, but they were like $27.99 and $31.99 respectively.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
the "which W.A.S.P. was still going to do part" is a little suspect. I know that being volunteered to do a meet-n-greet & learning about it late is the sort of thing that, to a person on tour, would arrive as a "don't fuck with my routine, I go crazy when people fuck with my routine" thing - you'd need to be pretty zenned out to go "wait, I'm meeting a bunch of people & signing shit & saying 'hi' between soundcheck & the show instead of chilling @ dinner? oh, ok, cool" -- most performers I know aren't able to adapt to last-minute change-of-plans like that, and you can't let people force you into changing plans on the fly or people will just sign you up for shit all the damn time knowing that you'll buckle
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
shouldn't the tour manager be on top of checking the venue websites?
however: no. there oughtn't be any reason to. everything that's expected of a band is right there in the contract. the TM calls the venue a day or two before rolling into town to say "it's so-and-so from W.A.S.P., just checking on the tech rider" etc but keeping up on what the venues are saying on their sites isn't really on the menu
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:44 (fifteen years ago)
guys I don't post here much but the lady responsible for the following work is releasing again this year - just a heads-up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxu0Xx0DVwk
the song 'dirty glow' is just as good, also not on youtube aside from a live version
― louis do not fuck achewood (acoleuthic), Friday, 12 March 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
however: no. there oughtn't be any reason to.as a guy who's long been working on the venue side, that's right in principle but not always in practice; i had artists who had committed to doing stuff on contract who knew nothing about the meet/greet or whatever and cases where artists threw massive fits about not having their cristal on ice when that was never on the rider. if a tour manager takes the time to just see what the venue is offering on their website, it puts the artist in the same position as the public so they're less likely to run into these kind of roadblocks.i don't know gramercy or wasp well enough to know who dropped the ball here but the fact that the band couldn't come to some sort of arrangement with the venue on the afternoon of a scheduled show strikes me as a strike against them... John, have you ever walked away from a show night-of because of treatment from a venue? I understand that you don't want to get railroaded but for something as relatively small as this...
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 12 March 2010 23:57 (fifteen years ago)
John, have you ever walked away from a show night-of because of treatment from a venue?
No, I haven't. Have really wanted to once or twice, but I feel a pretty intense sense of obligation to people who show up to see me do my thing. But in re: checking the website - this lies with the venue/promoter imo. Whatever he's putting up should be sent, prior to advertising, to the manager/TM/label for OK. That makes a lot more sense than "artists should be sure to look up the website of the club they're playing to make sure they're not being misrepresented," doesn't it?
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
that said, I don't do meet & greet & am v. sympathetic to WASP here, I need near-total isolation for several hours before I do my thing & anybody who can't understand that is my damn enemy
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
john, i'm totally in agreement with you that the artist/rep/manager shouldn't HAVE to do advance screening of the way the show is represented by the venue, but considering how minor a task it is and the number of problems it avoids I don't see why you wouldn't. The realpolitik of it is just sensible.
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)
and incidentally, considering how long you've been doing your thing, i really respect the fact that you've never walked on a show. short of somebody flat out not paying you, it hardly ever seems professional to screw your fans. there's always a way to compromise and then you can take the matter to court/avoid the venue/badmouth them on the internet/whatever, but at 8.30 when there's people lining up to see you, why you wanna walk?
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
why just walk when you can incite a riot imo
― richie aprile (rockapads), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
xpost thanks man I take a lot of pride in working hard for the people who like what I do & the places that're kind enuf to have me!
nobody checks websites though, the contract is binding - it'd be like calling into your day job every morning to make sure the dress code hadn't changed! sure, a crazy boss might do that, but you enter into a contract assuming that chaos & unpredictability isn't on the menu
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
"you enter into a contract assuming chaos and unpredictability isn't on the menu"you must play at different places than i'm familiar with
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
yeah but honestly it's really pretty easy to not say "what if the band did a meet n greet? I know, we'll advertise one and when they get here we'll tell 'em, they won't mind, right?'
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:30 (fifteen years ago)
whole subject is making me irritable because the people who work with me have better items on their agenda than "check the website of every venue on this month-long tour at least once a day because you never do know whether people will decide there's going to also be a puppet show & a lecture after the show & advertise accordingly"
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, i hear you. ounce of prevention is all i'm saying.in any case, with the WASP show it sounds like everybody behaved badly or somebody was misinformed.
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 13 March 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)
WASP are kind of notorious for being jerks, though.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
I would! Really.
That cancellation was a dick move. I think Blackie pulls this shit a lot, I'm always reading about sudden cancellations, either cos he's in a pissy mood or some dumb reason like the stage can't support his elaborate 12-ton mike stand.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
Bruce from Yakuza just emailed me their new album...checking it out now. Reviewed their second album for The Wire and have been a fan ever since. This one definitely ups the energy level more than the last two, and the mix is clearer too. Liking it a lot so far.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 13 March 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)
Their best to date, for sure.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)
Where'd you get it? And do you have a track listing? I got it straight from Bruce Lamont and the files weren't labeled.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 13 March 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
I got it from Bruni last week. I'll email you the track listing, I don't believe it's ben announced yet.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
oi, saw deicide tonight, sick show! opening acts were shite, one of em was fookin' power metal over chuggy sepultura guitars...think they were called uh, fuck if i care, they sucked...i was almost sleep by the time the 'Cide came out but man they played just about every classic crowd went nuts over 'once upon the cross'...
really gittin' tired of idiot blokes at the shows tho...these morons kept beggin for deicide to play 'dead by dawn', ten minutes after they fookin' played it!
― Sexplosion!, Saturday, 13 March 2010 06:19 (fifteen years ago)
that's pretty much their "freebird" tho
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 March 2010 08:30 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - new Rose Kemp? I must write her and inquire!
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 13 March 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - oi, I know, but it's like stupid fuckin' fans didn't even realize it was the third song they played, i shouted back at em 'THEY ALREADY FOOKIN' PLAYED IT' and the dude next to me nodded and said 'yea theyre dumb drunk douchebags'....mighta been a clue when the entire crowd was screaming dead by dawn during teh song that they played it...damn kids and their ecstacy and silly satanic family activities
― Sexplosion!, Saturday, 13 March 2010 08:34 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, it's a point, I don't know how fucked you have to be to miss that song. Shit, I just listened to their first one for the first time in ten years and I remembered the lyrics to most of the songs.
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 March 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)
The new attempt from Raven to cash in on Anvil's recent success, Walking through Fire, is really, really stupid, but really, really fun. Just total throwback poppy NWOBHM with big hooks and dumb lyrics. The vocalist has seen better days, and the production kind of sucks (which is to be expected), but there's a scrappy charm to it all. Not as good as the new Armored Saint, but Raven were never better than the Saint, even in their salad days. I am, however, looking forward to the next Armored Saint record in 2020, if their current rate of recording continues.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really looking forward to hearing that Raven album, even if they haven't made a good one since 1983. Well, Life's a Bitch did have its moments. I was such a big Raven fan in the mid-80s before they lost the plot...their early discography right up to Live at the Inferno is classic.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
Ha ha, yeah -- I meant to mention that you would probably love it, Adrien. I don't know if it's "good," per se, but I'm enjoying the heck out of it.
I do agree with Phil that La Raza feels very hard rock, but man, there's so much going on. I love the production -- nice and crisp, big drum hits, clear guitar lines. It's always a pleasure to hear John Bush sing, especially when he's delivering big catchy vocal hooks. Just an incredibly solid band.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
La Raza is such a cool surprise. Nobody was expecting such a lazy, sunny, funky/stoner version of Armored Saint, but it works so well. Not the most innovative, but it's one of my current 2010 faves for sure.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
I also want to give some props to the new Icarus Witch record, and not just because they thank me in the liner notes. Definitely one of the best of the New Wave of New Wave of British Heavy Metal bands out there. Drawing down the Moon is their creepiest record, going more for the atmospheric side of the sound. They even close with a spot on cover of "The Ripper."
Speaking of covers, I just reached the "Space Station #5" cover on the Raven record... pretty goofy stuff.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.metalfairytales.com/
Told in the style of a Grimms fairytale and originally written as a heavy metal musical, ‘The Windowmaker, the Codpiece and the Sex Gods from Planet Metal', tells the story of Nestor, windowmaker to the King who’s enchanted codpiece is stolen by an evil wizard. After befriending some brave knights, the Sex Gods from Planet Metal, Nestor then embarks on a fantastic adventure to retrieve it, battling monstrous vegetables along the way and saving the Kings daughter from peril in the process.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.metalfairytales.com/images/charcters_banner.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)
Ryan Adams has made a "metal" album. You can hear a song at http://ryanada.ms/ , there's a poll that you all might find amusing to vote on.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)
Oh come on I want to see the progress of the vote!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)
haha
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I was very disappointed that you couldn't see how many people had voted, and/or how they'd voted. You can always get a vote tally from my MSN polls just by hitting "Comment" on the poll widget.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)
It's almost as if Ryan Adams was worried that the link might be posted on some boards and people then voted for a laugh.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
Thats just a lousy song, metal or no. Yeesh.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
I like ryan adams (well, Whiskeytown(own all cds), his 1st couple of solo albums and love is hell) so im not a hater, but i dont care for that song at all.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 13 March 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
Icarus Witch are great. Do they have a new record coming out?
― Doran, Sunday, 14 March 2010 05:14 (fifteen years ago)
They do! It's called Draw down the Moon -- sorry if I didn't make that clear in my post.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 05:38 (fifteen years ago)
Right, cheers. It only seems like five minutes since they had another album out so I was just checking. Maybe they're like The Fall of NWONWOBHM.
― Doran, Sunday, 14 March 2010 13:01 (fifteen years ago)
Their last record was in 2007. Are we thinking of the same act?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)
Well since pfunkboy already stepped out on that thin ice, I'll join him and admit to liking some Ryan Adams myself, but definitely not his "metal" turns. He should stick to that 70s era Dead sound he nailed with Cold Roses.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
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― scott seward, Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)
:(
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
Indie rock dudes doing metal never works out. Dead Child? Goblin Cock? Witch? May be good for a chuckle or two, but they all seem to miss the point.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
Oh I like Witch, a lot. But mostly the second album which sorta branched more into psych-rock than metal imo.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)
I have the first album, vocals drove me insane. And I have a pretty high tolerance for crap vocals.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
hey Goblin Cock are awesome. Witch are pretty fine too.Ryan Adams "punk" stuff was crap too. Wish he would go back to his heartbreaker era. Gold,whilst having some really good songs on it was the start of his downfall, love is hell excepted. Maybe i need to hear that one jon mentions.
xps
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)
i suppose you dont like jex thoth either?
it could be worse, some people on here could've liked real crap like Blind Melon
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
Never heard them. I don't know, indie rock guys are good at their day jobs, but even if they like metal, they never seem to capture the spirit of the genre. Dead Child, in particular, feels really soulless.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
I dig Dead Child!
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)
Going back a little bit further in the thread, I would pay $25 for W.A.S.P., though I admit to not knowing their newer material. And Blackie does not have the greatest live voice, but they were undeniably classic in their heyday.
― Cattle Grind, Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
J3ff: I interviewed Icarus Witch about a year ago at the same time as a load of other bullet belt and cider types like Enforcer, Bullet, Firebrand Super Rock, Raven's Creed and others. I was just getting some of my facts mixed up. (Which is embarrassing given that they quote me on their website.)
Anyway, all of this pointless tattle aside, I'm glad to hear they've got a new album coming out.
― Doran, Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
Yes, John, but you're an indie rock artist who likes metal, so you kind of just proved my point!
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
Doran -- Yeah, I can see how that could be discombobulating. I think Icarus Witch are one of the better of those acts, though, and like you said, it's cool that they have a new album coming out.
We won! http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/15/arts/music/15scion.html
― Nate Carson, Monday, 15 March 2010 03:40 (fifteen years ago)
v. nice words about yob!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 15 March 2010 03:50 (fifteen years ago)
nuh-uh! I'm a metal fan who plays indie rock! big diff in my mind anyway!
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Monday, 15 March 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
like when I bought tragic serenades I guarantee you I was not listening to any wack R.E.M. crap for example
Cool stuff re: Yob! Would've liked to have been there.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 March 2010 04:11 (fifteen years ago)
awww, had no idea that yob played ny. wish I could have gone. :-/
― original bgm, Monday, 15 March 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)
They weren't in NY, at least not in reference to that article. That was about their performance at the Scion Rock Fest in Ohio.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not trying to impugn your metal cred! I know you're troo and kvlt. You yourself have said that you wouldn't try to do a metal project, though.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)
Thought this was directed at Doran, was confused
Is anyone else a teeny bit excited for the new Rose Kemp? I tried to drum up some support upthread but it was in the middle of a bunfight
also does anyone have any recommendations of recent metal for me, that I'd be sure to like? (yes I am going to listen to the shit out of the new Cathedral, as WELL as the new Chrome Hoof)
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)
Rose Kemp is great.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)
Man I really hope the pitas thing is only temporary. I would hate to have lost Adrien's blog.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
whoops, skimmed the article and missed, uh, the first two words in it.
anyway, rose kemp clip song posted above seemed cool! I'm not familiar but I will check out the new one if I remember to.
― original bgm, Monday, 15 March 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)
the last one was excellent
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 15 March 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
opening + closing tracks espesh
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)
cool. duly noted.
so, I've been listening to shining's blackjazz. still not sure if I love it yet, but imo, it really sounds like the midpoint between the fredrik thordendal solo record and zu. definitely give it a shot if either of those two do it for you. (esp thorendal - I'd be surprised if they weren't directly influenced by that record)
― original bgm, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)
ooh you've timed your Blackjazz love-in to coincide with me looking at the metal thread!
i've written enough about them, but the record is vying with the Knife opera for my album of '10 so far - it's far-out industrial-prog-jazz insanity of the highest calibre
(and cheers for the indirect thorendal tip!)
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
Man I really hope the pitas thing is only temporary.
Oh no!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Tom Ewing has something up on Twitter about pitas being down. I'm not sure what is going on.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
I thought for a moment there you were going to say Tom Ewing had written an article on metal. I wonder if that's one of the genres he's never investigated. He did after all mellow in his attitude towards classic rock since the beginning of ILM. It's not gonna happen though, is it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
hey Louis do you like Astra?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 15 March 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
np! and fwiw, I prefer the original release to the "version 3.33" one that relapse put out. mostly because I don't care for one long bonus track that drags the whole thing down a bit. sounds kinda like allan holdsworth jamming over final fantasy battle music.
― original bgm, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)
Cripes, that Scion festival had Liturgy, Ludicra and Absu in a row on one stage. How many boxy cars do I have to buy to get them to do that again in Boston?
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 15 March 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
I'd have liked to have gone to that, but then I would have had the worst time deciding who to see. That schedule was brutal.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 March 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
Seven kids take on "Cowboys from Hell" and NAIL it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld6VcyTcDr4
Metal kids these days are so technically skilled, it's frightening.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 15 March 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno anything about astra - will be on thorendal
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
prog/art rock on Rise Above
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
well, WASP just cancelled another show, in PA, and gave no reason (yet), so I'm retracting my benefit-of-the-doubt on the NY show -- ppl are super-pissed
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)
"I dig Dead Child!"
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)
Man, Scott is suggest banning like it's going out of print!
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:36 (fifteen years ago)
i'm just thinking it!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)
btw I finally got the 12" Drastus put out back in December. Jesus Christ. so so far ahead of any other black metal act...no competitors anywhere as far as I'm concerned
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
Say could anybody recommend me a cd that makes good background music for arson? Because with the night I'm having tonight, it's going to happen, and I at least want to have good tunes in the background when it does.
― Cattle Grind, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)
There's always Arson Anthem, if you want to be literal.
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:50 (fifteen years ago)
wow. I want listen to them now.
― Cattle Grind, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Big Black "Kerosene" would be the best arson soundtrack IMO.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 03:55 (fifteen years ago)
Acoleuthic check it:
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 13 March 2010 08:32 (3 days ago)
Scion Rock fest: I saw Black Anvil, Ludicra, Voivod, YOB, Shrinebuilder.
Wasn't that tough to decide who to see. I would have caught Liturgy too but I had the worst flights of my entire life. 33 hours from Portland to Columbus. Just miserable.
But the festival itself was fucking fantastic. Scion logos were not prevalent, no weird corporate vibes anywhere. Just a total blast and great music. They treated us like kings and I hope to do it again soon.
Next up: Roadburn!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)
The new Chrome Hoof is phenomenal. Can I be the first to say that it's not metal? Also in the not metal stakes is Kellermensch, a Danish 8-piece who have sonic links to Neurosis, Godspeed, Arcade Fire who, visually can be split into members who look like they had a really tough time in jail and other members who look like they had no problem at all in jail.
― Doran, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)
In order to get to Austin, TX, you have to change planes in Dallas. High on Fire were on my Dallas-to-Austin flight. So I grabbed a quick interview with Matt Pike in the departure lounge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1HLCNuyyiU
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)
I raise the kids playing Pantera songs youtube with thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDbAxhV2ofM
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoyed that interview Phil!
I still need to hear this record
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)
― Doran, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 10:07 (6 hours ago) Bookmark
gnarrr want
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, that's a some good timing, Phil...cool of you to post it, and very accommodating of Pike, too.
Meanwhile, I'm giving the new Woe of Tyrants a listen. I liked their debut from last year, they're not unlike Revocation, an extreme metal album that straddles different genres at once, brutal and technical without forgetting to toss in some good melodies. Anyway, the new CD is very strong, the kind of improvement you like to see from album #1 to #2.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
Hey John, if I give you five bucks, can you send me the Peruvian Nightwish Coverband 7"?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
Someone told me Albert was a Scion. But we did not meet :(
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
Is he a Transformer?
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
"at Scion", haha. Good one :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
He's totally metal -- literally!
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
one of those cases where I really really wish the thing I dreamed up actually existed
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
btw that kid singin folsom prison is completely rad
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
that twain keeps a wolling :) ever so cute.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
so rad
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
i shot a man in weno just to watch him die. Awesome! You can hear a few giggles when he sings the when I was a baby line.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq_smVFdNEg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnjvS53svJY
this song was written by the 9 year old kid. J0hn, you got any songs you wrote at 9? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
I have a brief piano piece from when I was 8 entitled "the jungle"
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
was it about unicorns in the jungle? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
if I say yes can we get back to talking about heavy metal?
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)
What was the first heavy metal band you got into?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
well, this is weird!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
dear metal thread, someone on the DiS board has suggested the following acts to someone interested in the gauzier side of BM
I would like some opinions on them
Firstly a non BM band I should have mentioned before is One Unique Signal - www.myspace.com/oneuniquesignal - I think they will absolutely give you everything you asked for: they even play with a drone tape backing their live sets - 3 guitars, bass , feedback, super heavy drumming.
For black metal bands I was definitely not thinking of Xasthur, there's no real driving grooves there, no feedback either, just that curtain of grey. So:I second Contenttoplayvillain's Burzum suggestion, of course. Varg isn't the godfather of an entire genre for nothing.
Servile Sect - http://www.myspace.com/servilesect - this is pretty digital sounding, but it has a space/age sci-fi theme that is very unusual for something BM related – but then it’s very textural, rhythmic, kraut-tone-wave sounding.
Aluk Todolo - www.myspace.com/aluktodolo - Their last album, Descension, has a lot of industrial.kraut kind of grovve and occult clanking but their new Finsternis record is one long linear cycle of drone/feedback/rhythmic build to an overwhelming finish. Not so much 'shoegaze' because the pace is more more dead-eyed stare.
Lutomysl - http://www.myspace.com/lutomysl - ridiculously named album I(')MQUI(nt)ESs/cENCE is where you should go for deep mid-paced howling drone metal. Features the same drummer as Astrofaes and Drudkh, if those names mean anything to you. Both pretty relentlessly rhythmic.
Horna - http://www.myspace.com/thetruehorna - 2008 album Sanojesi Äärelle almost fits your request to the letter – especially the track Liekki Ja Voima, totally wild torrent of rhythms - http://www.last.fm/music/Horna/_/Liekki+ja+Voima
Fell Voices – http://www.myspace.com/fellvoicesca - Gnarly, ultra noisy psychedelic bass-line black metal with fast to slow grooves and a constant sense of momentum. My new favourite band, fwiw.
Menace Ruine - http://www.myspace.com/menaceruine - Creeped out atmopsphere and rhythm -try the track Utterly Destitute http://www.last.fm/music/Menace+Ruine/_/Utterly+Destitute
Wrath of the Weak – http://www.myspace.com/wotw666 - the first self-titled album especially – after that it’s more almost abstracted noise, but the first has a lot of rhythm.
You’re maybe a bit too far away from Shoegaze here by now.
This has made me want to go and make a mixtape now!
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
Aluk Todolo are great
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
if we accept a really loose definition of metal, jethro tull if we're going for a stricter definition, sabbath
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
in re: lj's list, I'm a huge horna fan since '03 or so, they've been around forever & they keep getting better -- recommend pretty much anything from their catalog
the rest I've never heard of
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:00 (fifteen years ago)
lj, you need to get on the utech tip. best label in the u.s.:
Utech Records S/D
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:29 (fifteen years ago)
ah cheers guys! utech looks pretty promising; i'll hopefully digest some of this stuff presently :)
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
Wrath of the Weak is really good, Burzum-inspired stuff. And yeah, Horna has their moments.
Quiet Riot back in 1983.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
First metal band I got into: Blue Oyster Cult. (They were my first concert, too.)
New albums whose counterpoised greatnesses I still don't feel I've noted strongly or frequently enough: HIM's Screamworks and Immolation's Majesty and Decay. The sounds of people perfecting some particular thing they've chosen to absolutely dominate...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
You beat me to it Glenn. I have crystalline memories of running around in 1978 with an X-Wing fighter in my hand while "Godzilla" was cranking on the stereo.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)
But the first metal album I really "got" was Metal Health.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)
METALLICA! Well... Black album Metallica... and then I spent a while lost in the mid-90s alternative wilderness. But the Black album was the first CD I ever bought!
― smacked down over Twitter (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)
What was your first metal metallica album? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:44 (fifteen years ago)
Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning, don't remember the order in which I got them.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:45 (fifteen years ago)
LOL ^ it's true!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago)
"Drop out of life, x-wing in hand, follow Godzilla to the promised land..."
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)
First metal band I truly got into was either Maiden or Priest, thanks to a dubbed tape a friend made me with multiple selections from both. First real album I got into on my own was And Justice For All. Fell away from metal in the early 90s thanks to absolutely no metal presence at my lolcollege, so I missed out on a lot of good stuff. Checked back in 98-99, heard a bunch of shitty nu-metal - promptly checked out again (though Slipknot stayed with me). Picked up again major in 2004 and have been filling in gaps ever since.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:03 (fifteen years ago)
I had heard Zep & Sabbath from my cousin when I was about 6 ('78 or '79), as well as stuff like BOC and Nazareth; but the first metal I claimed as my own was the Judas Priest compilation Hero, Hero. I saw it at a used record shop and it had the coolest cover ever, plus it was two records and cheaper than buying a single new one. Would have been late '81 - was just entering my heavy D&D phase. Metal Health was when I started to get that there was a whole genre of stuff to explore. That was also when the local record shop carried newly released stuff and not just 70s back catalog - their MTV presence changed everything.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)
But the Black album was the first CD I ever bought!
same here! well, either that or nevermind. I can't remember.
first lp: some monkees best offirst tape: sir mix a lot "baby's got back" cassingle
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)
I was huge into Justice and Bleach. 1991 disgusted me at age 18 and I skipped the Black Album, Nevermind, Psalm 69, and Angel Rat. Of course I can see the merits in all of these albums now, but of all 4, I've only gone back and actually purchased/examined the Voivod.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
first lp: Michael Jackson - Thrillerfirst tape: Sammy Hagar - VOA (given to my as 8th bday present along with my first boombox, given at approx. 3 PM, tape taken away for alleged swears at approx. 4:15 OM)first cd: Nirvana - Nevermind
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
"me" = "my"
it took me about a decade but I just started listening to nevermind again. never really stopped liking it but the overexposure coupled with the perfect mental recollection I had from listening so many times at a young age never really made me want to throw it on.
can't really say the same for the black album. first band that broke my heart. also, it really is a pretty sorry record.
psalm 69 never stopped being awesome, imo.
on another note, I'm watching the iron maiden flight 666 movie and it rules. just thinking about bruce bruce flying all of iron maiden + their crew + their family + their gear all across the world in a giant jet named "ed force one" puts a huge grin on my face.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
hm, i didn't know we were doing this but these are the ones I remember buying/stealing:
first LP: Police - Synchronicityfirst cassingle: Prince - Batdancefirst tape: Metallica - $5.98 EPfirst cd: Fu-Schnickens - FU Don't Take It Personal
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
first cd: Fu-Schnickens - FU Don't Take It Personal
hah - love this!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
To get off metal and on topic, my first 7" was Gary Numan "Cars" and my first LP was Yellow Submarine. First cassette was probably Metal Health and first 3 CDs were Pink Floyd - Meddle, Iron Maiden - Killers, and Tad - God's Balls.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
i find it hard to believe no one's done this thread before. Where's Jaymc when you need him?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)
It's been done many times. Just not within the Metal thread.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnpkcfkQ4lA&feature=related
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)
^^^ jammin this right now
really stretching my memory here...
first full-length tape: probs ride the lightning or master of puppetsfirst mailorder purchase: nine inch nails - brokenfirst 7"s: the two brujeria 7"s on alternative tentacles
― original bgm, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
the first metal tape I bought was Master of Puppets, second was Maiden's Somewhere in Time. '86 was a huge shift in taste for me. Before that the hardest stuff I liked was AC/DC and Zeppelin. partially because of MTV, I got into hair metal after that - was big into Twisted Sister, the first Tesla album, Judas Priest, Quiet Riot, stuff like that.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:54 (fifteen years ago)
Menace Ruine are pretty good. I was listening to Radiance by Nadja yesterday and the new Blood Of The Black Owl; both awesome.
The first metal album I bought was Iron Maiden ST (a few years after the fact), then a couple of weeks later Live After Death. The first Metallica album I bought was Ride The Lightning. But then I got into drugs and the Butthole Surfers and didn't buy any metal for a few years.
― Doran, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:18 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Lair of the Minotaur disc, Evil Power. I don't know...I want to love this band, because on the surface they're the ultimate metal band - their name, the fact that their albums have titles like Carnage, The Ultimate Destroyer and War Metal Battle Master, the video for the last album's title track - but I just don't feel like they're living up to their potential. In my opinion, they peaked with The Ultimate Destroyer.
I love the new LOTM album! They've gone totally primitive, very Darkthrone-ish at times, and the more simplified, direct approach pays off hugely. It's huge, it's blunt, it's dumb, but it's the catchiest stuff they've ever done. This band was made to make true, rousing battle metal anthems, and they've finally done that.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)
first 3 CDs were Pink Floyd - Meddle, Iron Maiden - Killers, and Tad - God's Balls.
I didn't think God's Balls was released on CD except for that truncated version tacked to the end of Salt Lick?
Anyway, these are my firsts:
First single: Def Leppard - 'Animal'First tape: Michael Jackson - BadFirst LP: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles OSTFirst CD: Soundgarden - Superunknown (I still love this one)
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:58 (fifteen years ago)
Can't wait for LOTM. Just received new Darkthrone though... which should be good.
― Doran, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)
I stand by my take on the LOTM disc. I think it's been all downhill for them since The Ultimate Destroyer. Based on the new song they played last night, though, I'm very excited for the next disc by The Sword. (I also hope they record and release the version of Thin Lizzy's "Cold Sweat" they played, 'cause that kicked all kinds of ass.) I didn't get either of those on video (I was still online during the new song and only heard it because it was an outdoor show, and...well, I just didn't record the other one), but you can see them play an older song, and see the first song of Motörhead's set ("Iron Fist") right here.
I gotta tell you, this Flip Video camera/device is fucking amazing. It cost me $185, and the recording quality is fantastic. I feel kinda goofy using it, because the model user in the TV commercials is, like, a six-year-old girl, but fuck it - the thing works.
Oh, and as far as firsts are concerned, my first metal album was by Judas Priest...might have been Point of Entry, might have been Screaming for Vengeance, I don't remember exactly, but it was right around 1982-83 that I discovered them and immediately became a huge fan and had my dad (parents were divorcing) buy me pretty much their whole catalog from Sin After Sin through Screaming, which was new then. I specifically remember picking up British Steel and Hell Bent for Leather in one of those big chain stores where the cassettes were in almost indestructible plastic sleeve things that I had to chop open with a knife because the cashier hadn't removed them before we left the store. I had those two and Screaming on cassette, but the others - Sin After Sin, Unleashed in the East, and Point of Entry (I never had Stained Class) were on vinyl.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
I should be more nervous about interviewing Lemmy in front of what I'm thinking is gonna be 5-600 people today, but I'm weirdly calm. I'll probably flip out and shit myself (only figuratively, I hope) about 4 PM CST, when we're meeting up - the event starts at 5PM CST. It doesn't look like it's gonna be webcast or anything, fortunately/unfortunately.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)
Lemmy was the coolest guy ever when I met him at an aftershow my sophomore year of college and clumsily asked him for an impromptu interview. He gave me 10 minutes of his time, answered all my stupid questions, and then offered me some Jack Daniels at the end.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
But yeah, I can understand how interviewing him in front of a big audience would be an entirely different thing -- DON'T CHOKE.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Good luck Unperson, and say hello to Lisa and Jenny from me. Would love to be there for the Home Of Metal shizzle alone.
― Doran, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
Wish I could see that Q&A with Lemmy, as well as to see all the Voivod shows down there this week. Best of luck, Phil!
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, my nervousness is all about the presence of a live audience. I know exactly how cool and helpful/friendly Lemmy himself is; I've interviewed him twice before. In fact, the first one is one of my favorite stories ever, and I don't think I've ever shared it here. So here goes.
The interview took place in 2003, when Motörhead was supporting Hammered and I was still EIC of High Society. I met up with them at The World, a club owned by the WWE, and since it was for High Society, we brought along two female models. Lemmy and I did a half-hour interview, which went great, and then he sat down on this big leather couch to be photographed, and the girls took their clothes off. Whereupon the WWE flack in the room shit himself, immediately trying to quash the whole thing and have all of us ejected from the building. We started frantically arguing, pointing out that there were no WWE logos in the shot (the couch was propped up against a blank wall) and that we promised not to reveal the location of the shoot in the final piece (we didn't; we just said "High Society caught up with Motörhead when they came through New York), and on and on. Either way, I was dragged upstairs afterward to meet with some VP of something or other at WWE Entertainment, had to sign some papers swearing to all of the above, blah blah blah. Totally bonkers, to my mind; oily dudes in Speedos are okay, but naked women aren't? Oh, well. Lemmy was totally good-humored about it all, of course.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)
That's what I had. Didn't realize that this has never been corrected? I'll have to ask Tad about that next time I'm in Seattle.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
Yep, if you want the other three tracks, you've gotta track down the (out of print, I think) vinyl.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Oh I've had the vinyl since it came out. One of my very favorite records. I always claim that it's the heaviest record Seattle produced until Burning Witch.
I don't get starstruck by anyone but it's still a bit weird to me that Tad is my friend now.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
Tad were my favorite Seattle band. Saw them play City Gardens in Trenton, NJ in support of Salt Lick. They were opening for Primus for some reason.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
Have you seen his new YOB-influenced doom outfit Brothers of the Sonic Cloth? I'm not blown away by the recordings but the live show is GREAt.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)
Don't think they've hit the East Coast yet, and anyway shows are a rare thing for me these days.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
This doesn't have much to do with metal; I just love it...
http://bit.ly/9ktCbR
That is fantastic and I don't even watch BSG.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
facebook'd
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Decibel is great. Honestly, the best thing to do to really get into metal? Just start buying shit. Really. I was in your position back in 2004, trying to get back into metal after more than a decade of not really keeping up with it. I just started sampling from all over, grabbing albums by bands I'd never heard before or even heard of. Heard a lot of horrible shit and a lot of great shit. But it really helped me focus on on the subgenres that did the most for me. Since then I feel like I've developed a definite "taste" in the metal I love. You just need to dive in and surround yourself with the music. Take chances. As great as Decibel is, don't let it dominate your selections. Browse Terrorizer, browse BW&BK, browse whatever mags you see at the newsstand. You'll be better off and find yourself exposed to quite a wide variety.Anyway, hope that helps somewhat.― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:59 PM (6 days ago)
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:59 PM (6 days ago)
Thanks, jon! That's solid advice. I've already learned a bunch just from reading this thread and some older ILX threads on metal, but I definitely think just buying a bunch of stuff is a good idea.
ksh: there are a bunch of really, really good mixes here: http://ghostradio-archive.blogspot.com/I don't know who the guy is that does 'em but he knows his shit, like, immensely. The one I am rocking right now is #XXI, the newest one...fucking incredible. they're all beautifully put together & grouped well & will give you lots to dig into. I― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Friday, March 12, 2010 12:29 AM (5 days ago)
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Friday, March 12, 2010 12:29 AM (5 days ago)
Oh that looks great J0hn! Thanks so much. I'm going to download one or two of them and check 'em out. :-)
― ksh, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
In the 90s, those hoary days before blogs, I used to just take several hours a week to go to record stores (like Cheapo's in Minneapolis) and look through all the CDs alphabetically, searching for metal albums with covers/logos/names that interested me. I'd listen to piles of them in the store, and take chances on anything that seemed intriguing. I put back 3/4 of what I picked up, but some of the shit I discovered has stuck with me for life. That's how I first heard Amorphis - Karelian Isthmus, Grave - Into the Grave, and even Coroner - No More Color (which I discovered way later than I should have).
The thrill of the hunt counts, and good metal CDs are hiding in record stores everywhere.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)
In the 90s, those hoary days before blogs, I used to just take several hours a week to go to record stores (like Cheapo's in Minneapolis) and look through all the CDs alphabetically, searching for metal albums with covers/logos/names that interested me.
Haha, that was me in a nutshell from 1984 to 1988. The best was making a blind purchase because the cover looked cool (Slayer's Haunting the Chapel, Megadeth's Peace Sells for instance) and being utterly floored or just plain baffled by the music inside.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:47 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah for me it was all about discovering death metal around '94. I saw the Chaos AD tour and was already into Carcass and Bolt Thrower and Necrophobic. So the floodgates were blowing open.
Oh yeah, I was gonna say that I discovered Vader - The Ultimate Incantation this way, but then I remembered reading it's review in S.O.D. They gave it a rating of Ten Fucking Skulls, so I knew I had to have it.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:59 (fifteen years ago)
BTW - YOB on Spin.com
http://www.spin.com/gallery/best-worst-scion-rock-fest?page=4#main
The interview with Lemmy went about as well as I could possibly have hoped. He was funny as hell, and answered every question I asked, ducking nothing. Afterward, I interviewed the co-directors of the documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/v/6D2wSsj2Dso
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)
what would i want to listen to by Yob, btw? Like a good entry point? unless this has been covered on here and i missed it and you can just c+p an answer.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
The Illusion of Motion is really good. As is The Unreal Never Lived.
― DISASTÜR ZÜN RHINE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)
I'll give them a shot.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for posting that link Phil, those guys seem like pretty decent dudes. Can't wait to see the movie. Also glad to hear the Q&A went well, wish I could have been down there for that.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
The thrill of the hunt counts, and good metal CDs are hiding in record stores everywhere.― Nate Carson, Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:29 AM
― Nate Carson, Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:29 AM
Good point! I should start going to record stores more . . . and perhaps keep my eyes open for those that have a larger-than-usual metal selection. :-)
― ksh, Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)
Go to used places! Seriously! Even if they aren't known for having a great selection of stuff. I've found a TON of used metal albums in unexpected places, some really good shit too. We have this place in the north shore suburbs of Chicago called Half Price Books that has a decent sized vinyl/cd area. The vinyl selection is mostly meh, but I've found some real treasures in the CD section. Best part is, they seem to not know how well metal will sell and it is almost always priced way cheaper than the more "standard" stuff. I know I've picked up Suffocation, Neurosis, Morothead, Slayer, and Morbid Angel there for less that $4 each.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, that's awesome! Thanks dude. I pretty go exclusively to Newbury Comics, since that's all that's convenient, but even when I leave the area I don't venture into anywhere half-interesting most of the time. I should change that.
― ksh, Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)
I pretty go exclusively --> I pretty exclusively go
for those of you into that kind of thing Terrorizer has a Secret History of.... Death Metal Special on sale now. No doubt metal forums will be full of the usual complaints of too many bands who didn't split up after amazing demo tapes are in it :)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.terrorizer.com/sites/terrorizer.com/files/imagecache/product_full/DM_Cover-1_LORES_0.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)
Damn. Was just at the newsstand that carries Terrorizer and they didn't have it. Wonder if it sold out or if they haven't gotten it yet.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
Out April I think, plus its a special issue not a regular issue so it will be more expensive. I didn't even see their secret history of the decade special in Smiths here when it was out. I did get the BM one before that though.I will be skipping this one. Got zero interest in it, plus I've probably read most of the articles in old issues.
I get the feeling the next secret history of.... issue will be an industrial one. It could be really good or incredibly shite depending on what they focus on. But terrorizer has definitely went in a more mainstream direction in the past year due to the current financial climate (special metalcore and deathcore specials really? terrorizer never covered that shite much so its sad to see them forced into having to just to survive)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)
but if you like death metal then im sure its a great buy
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
Terrorizer went mersh a few years ago really, but I got their grindcore history issues (last year I think?) and they were pretty good. Not as good as the Decibel special last year, but hey, it's a marginal genre so I can't complain.
Speaking of Decibel, I finally bought myself a year's subscription (last week in fact), but I'm not sure what the story is re: when I should expect my first issue to arrive. Will they wait till the next one's out before adding me to the subs list, or should I have already received one? I've ordered singles a few times in the past and they've arrived pretty swiftly (3 or 4 days at most) but my mailbox is still empty.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Are the shipping prices a killer?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
Not that bad all things considered. An international subscription set me back $70, which is about €50 or £45. Considering issues in the newsagents (when it was still distributed here) cost a fiver or so, 12 issues for 50 quid is a pretty good deal. Not as sweet at the deal you yanks get, of course.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
I need to break down and just subscribe to Decibel, I keep buying it off the newsstand.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
You're lucky you could get it in the newsagents. Not only did smiths not stock it but you couldn't even get it in Glasgow. Even Borders didn't stock it before they went bust.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:27 (fifteen years ago)
Its weird to be in this position, for most of my life I've been jealous of all the good music rags the Brits put out that I have to pay import prices for!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
There was only one place in Dublin that had it, and they stopped stocking it a couple of years ago. But it definitely came through a UK distributor - that bloody superglued sticker was pasted over the barcode on the front.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
smiths didnt even get the 2nd last Wire in. My mate got me the latest in glasgow, no idea if they have that one in, but smiths definitely are cutting down on the amount of music mags they get.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
yet you can buy the nme,mojo,Q,uncut,kerrang and mixmag in every supermarket and mini-market/corner shop.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
I just subscribed to Decibel, too, and got the current issue (which I already had, of course) along with the hilarious New Wave of Stupid Heavy Metal Acronyms shirt I ordered in about a week.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 19 March 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
Being unemployed and broke means I broke down and bought Ludicra offa iTunes. Figured it was better to pay the $7 than continue waiting til I can afford the physical copy.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 March 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
It takes a while for the international copes of Decibel to arrive, trust me on that, so it's best to be patient. But Mark Evans is super nice and will answer any question you might have, his email address is in the masthead if you have an older copy.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 March 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Jon I do believe that Ludicra's 2nd album is also up on iTunes for a low price as part of some Alternative Tentacles anniversary sale...
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 March 2010 08:02 (fifteen years ago)
Looks like Raven is playing the Abbey Pub in Chicago on 9/18. I assume (hope) that's the NWOBHM one.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 19 March 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, should be; they've got a new album coming out.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 19 March 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
Fastnbulbous--go see Ludicra + Clad in Darkness in Chicago at Underground Lounge on Sat 4/10 :)
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 March 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not Fastnbulbous, but I think I'm going to try to make that show anyway!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 March 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
That's not a bad place to see a show either, an ex gf of mine used to play there a lot with her band. Only downside is it being right in the heart Wrigleyville surrounded by stunted 30 year old frat boy bars. Thankfully the Cubs are out of town the night of that show, so it won't be as bad.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 March 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
Cool. Well that show changed venues like 4 times so if you have any means to help spread the word that it's at Underground Lounge, that would be muy excelente :)
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 March 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)
I'm looking forward to Ludicra when they hit Maine - them, Ocean & Krallice & more. Should be quite a night.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 20 March 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah that's a good one. How is Aok Suicide Forest anyway?
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 March 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
It's Leif from Conifer's new band - I'm not sure why Conifer fell apart, but Leif told a mutual friend he wanted to throw more early Priest into the mix which is a big plus in my book. I haven't had a chance to see them nor to see Kaveldt, which is a couple of the other Conifer guys.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 21 March 2010 00:58 (fifteen years ago)
One of the dudes from The Sword sent me a message on YouTube asking if I'd recorded any more songs from their Stubb's set - he wanted to see the footage. I had to tell him, with some regret, that I had not.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 21 March 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)
It's Leif from Conifer's new band
Being the son of a forester, this made me laugh out loud.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago)
I dont think you need to be a son of a forester to find it funny tbh!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:15 (fifteen years ago)
New Deftones record is more aggressive than Saturday Night Wrist but doesn't break any new ground. Really makes me wonder what Eros would have sounded like.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)
I hoped someone would appreciate the dry wit of my phrasing! Glad it got a laugh.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:23 (fifteen years ago)
That was worth logging in. (ducks)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 March 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
Headbobbling is the new spirit fingers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLkOYHYQ2tc
― Thijs, Sunday, 21 March 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)
I'm enjoying the new Deftones. I like Sextape.
― RingoIsMyName, Sunday, 21 March 2010 12:50 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone heard the new Howling Wind? I was listening to some old Thralldom and saw The Howling Wind had a new one coming out. Profound Lore has an mp3 up:
http://www.profoundlorerecords.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=14&Itemid=33
Great stuff!
― witch ghetto defendant, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:14 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really enjoying Mastabah's debut full length. It somehow reminds me of the first couple Hypocrisy albums, but updated with some of the new technical and "brutal" elements. It's one of my favorites for this year so far.
― witch ghetto defendant, Sunday, 21 March 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0zDiHGtKA
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 05:09 (fifteen years ago)
Haha, wow, Nick Bowcott had quite the fro back in the day.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 March 2010 05:21 (fifteen years ago)
Adrien, just want to say I really like the Burzum bit up on your blog right now.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 March 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 March 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
was kinda taken by surprise when i saw the cover of the new Decibel! don't know why, but i was.
― scott seward, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)
I didn't think they'd do it. Hope it's a well-written cover story.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 March 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
I know they've lost at least one subscriber. Wonder how many more they'll lose.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
what is on the cover of the new decibel??
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
i assume Burzum?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
sufjan
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 March 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
I've been revisiting Bigelf's Money Machine every day for the last two weeks. Damn that is a solid record. Most bands can't write songs like that (even if most of the riffs are pretty much stolen from the Beatles and King Crimson).
― Nate Carson, Monday, 22 March 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
someone on Twitter said it's Varg
― there are tons of lame posts with your login underneath: write a book! (ksh), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really think they'll lose too many subscribers over it, but I'm surprised they did it. But hey, controversy supposedly sells - right?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)
For or against--it is a big story in heavy metal right now.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 22 March 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
what's the controversy?
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
It's the whole lionization-of-a-racist/arsonist/murderer thing.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)
giving publicity to Varg xpost
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:58 (fifteen years ago)
hm, gotta wiki dude.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 01:59 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not going to cancel my Decibel subscription (of which this is my first issue), but I'd much rather have seen Warrior on the cover.
On that subject, though, I'm not warming to the Triptykon as fast as I'd hoped and expected. It's heavy, but in parts I find myself thinking, heretically, "But Sunn O))) do this better..." But I'll probably come around, eventually. I wasn't an instant believer in Monotheist, either. (And I liked Cold Lake fine, so...)
Guardedly optmistic about the new Metsatöll and both new Negurǎ Bunget albums, after one listen each, but I admit I wanted the NB to be darker or faster or something. Really liked my first play, just now, of Imperium Dekadenz's Procella Vadens. Looking forward to listening to Cathedral tomorrow.
But mostly: Ludicra.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)
Forks' - Check out Adrien's blog today http://abegrand.pitas.com/ - his handling of the person vs. the music is really on point. Personally, I don't care for his music so nothing tempers my loathing.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, my favorite Varg anything is the synth sax stuff. Blah.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 03:00 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that's what I loved about Adrien's post - the way he approached it from his personal view without drawing any lines in the sand about how others should feel about the man and his music.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 03:15 (fifteen years ago)
really liked your thoughtful take on Burzum, Adrein
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 04:17 (fifteen years ago)
I'm glad people have read it. I'd been discussing doing a review for PopMatters, but we all felt Varg doesn't really need the publicity from a site that gets a million unique readers per month. Still, I wanted to review the album and at the same time try to explain why I sincerely enjoy Burzum, so I spent Sunday putting together a rather extemporaneous attempt at doing so.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:05 (fifteen years ago)
dunno that they're 'metal', but the new Dillinger Escape Plan is fucking fantastic on first listen.
It's even more astonishing to these ears as I first got into DEP when I was discovering extreme music about 11 years ago, and because of my excessive music buying, I sort of lost track of them after Calculating Infinity.
I had no idea that they had explored more melodic territory or branched out like this. It's sort of like they still have their math rock grounding but with actual hooks attached.
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)
If you haven't heard Ire Works, you really should pick it up. It's even more diverse and hooky.
When they signed that deal with Season of Mist they sort of inferred it would give them the kind of creative license to just go nuts with the experimentation we heard on Ire Works, but as good as the new songs are ("Farewell, Mona Lisa" is brilliant), the album feels predictable, something that never happened with DEP before.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:33 (fifteen years ago)
I'm actually d/ling it from ITunes as we speak. can't wait to hear.
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)
I agree that Ire Works trumps the new one, but it's definitely still distinctive and enjoyable.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 23 March 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)
read the decibel burzum article last night. it's basically the complete opposite approach.
I think the dude that wrote it is a good writer and I've liked stuff he's done before... but I thought this one was a real missed opportunity. particularly a long rant about racism vs. murder (and which one is worse and which one he can't believe we don't ALL realize is the greater of two particular evils). the terrorizer message board is quoted repeatedly. o_O can't imagine how that part didn't get cut.
loved adrien's post too, btw.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
also, apparently there's a new CELESTIIAL album - where life springs eternal
excited for this one. the album from a couple years back was this great funeral doom/field recordings hybrid. totally cool.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
I just got the first Decibel of my subscription. I'm pretty sure it's last months; High on Fire are on the cover, and it was posted on 8 March (I think it's been on a shelf in the local sorting office along with everything else I've been expecting, so no issue with the Decibel subs department!). Guess I won't be enjoying the Varg controversy for another week or two...
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, High on Fire is the April issue. I picked it up from the bookstore two weeks or so ago, I think.
Thinking of subscribing today, actually.
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)
i don't understand decibel trying to distinguish between racism and murder and asking which one is worse --- didn't he do both???
― Mordy, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
"excited for this one."
it's great. that's my second rave celestiial review in decibel. get the new blood of the black owl too. also great.
for some reason i get all serious when i write about celestiial. and caina too. they bring out the adult in me.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
i think his point was that most people don't even talk about/care about the fact that he killed someone. they just talk about his racist babble. like, sure he burned down some buildings and killed his friend, but he's RACIST and that's why i don't like him/listen to his music.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno. i'm not really into debating varg. kinda scary that he has three kids. i don't think i knew that.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Wikipedia:
Burzum released his new 2010 album Belus worldwide on 8 March 2010, and Varg will be donating a portion of the proceeds to benefit victims of the Haitian earthquake
Really?
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
lol, kinda doubt that
xposts:
I mean, yeah, he did kill a guy. the article goes off on a long tangent about how people always bring up varg's racism and how disgusting it is but not nearly as much attention is given to the euronymous murder. thinks varg killing a man is more damning than anything varg could possibly think but not act on.
really found the soapbox aspect of this weird and out of place. and referencing the terrorizer message board to back this all up is just bizzare. wtf
not to mention, people DO mention this stuff constantly! typical burzum article starts with a "murderer/racist/chruch burner" checklist.
I dunno, maybe varg only giving curt responses via email necessitates some type of embellishment? but I just really wasn't feeling this article.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
Here's the reference for that: http://www.metalcallout.com/metal-news/burzum-belus-proceeds-to-go-to-haiti-relief.html#dates
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
loooooool wiki vandalism
A+
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
hahahaha.
been listening to Ghost Radio XXI, and a lot of it is really wonderful. thanks for the tip, J0hn.
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
you bet man
― the most sacred couple in Christendom (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
only four more songs to go -- it's super long, but psyched to look into this stuff more :-)
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
heh, also listening to that. obitus are pretty cool
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
it's great. that's my second rave celestiial review in decibel. get the new blood of the black owl too. also great.for some reason i get all serious when i write about celestiial. and caina too. they bring out the adult in me.― scott seward, Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
― scott seward, Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
glad to hear it! the first album was pretty slept on, imo
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
Oh man, the talk page for Burzum's wikipedia article:
Emocore is listed in the genre box. Is this accurate? I'm not terribly familiar with the band but this seems more than a little suspect. Unless someone confirms that Burzum is in fact an emocore band, I will assume that this label is vandalism and remove it.
― ksh, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the Cathedral now. Much goofier and Yes-like than I expected, but I'm starting to get into it.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
Ok, metal score of the week here. Browsing around a used shop this afternoon that usually has a horrible selection, but killing some time. Just about to walk out the door when I spied the Judas Priest Metalogy box for 22 bucks. But wait, also the store has a 50% off sale going on, so I got it for $11. Good bargain, I would say.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)
Sweet find! The box is missing several crucial remastered original tracks ("Love Bites", "Hot Rockin", etc.), but it's still an excellent career overview. That '82 DVD is incredible, Halford just kills "Riding on the Wind".
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)
Helluva deal.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, most of my Priest collection is vinyl handed down from my uncle, so I was just glad to get such a variety in a slightly more handy format. Can't wait to dig into the DVD.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)
They recently re-released the box without the DVD and the studs. Totally missing the point, that.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
Well in that case I'm definitely glad to have this version, with both! The studs make it look so awesome.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
I'm always tempted to pick it up for that reason, even though it would basically just be for the DVD. Priest were my first metal love, and I think their 74-79 run is unimpeachable.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
Black Sabbath > Judas Priest > Iron Maiden > Burzum > Pantera
and stfu if you disagree.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)
I'd flip Maiden and Priest, but other than that totally on board. Maybe add a couple more '>>' between Burzum and Pantera though.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 03:48 (fifteen years ago)
Well sure, I was just trying to stay on topic. :)
Except that you're wrong. Priest has more good records than Maiden.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 04:03 (fifteen years ago)
I adore Priest, but for me Maiden gets the nod every time. That's mainly due to the fact that Maiden's 82-88 discography trounces Priest's from that period, which were my formative years, metalwise.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 04:14 (fifteen years ago)
got the rest of dillingers studio albums cuz I found Miss Machine used. I feel like a dude that goes to the homeless shelter to eat for weeks and forgets he has shitloads of food in the fridge.....man I wish I had bought these sooner...
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)
I'm always tempted to pick it up for that reason, even though it would basically just be for the DVD.
That Priest DVD was also released separately as Live Vengeance '82, I picked it up for just a couple of euro's a few years ago. That live version of 'Helion/Electric Eye' is probably my favorite Priest moment ever.
― Thijs, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)
I'd have to go Black Sabbath > Judas Priest > Iron Maiden > Pantera > Lady Gaga > five Down syndrome kids beating coffee cans with wooden spoons and singing along with Yoko Ono's "Don't Worry Kyoko" > someone beating a baby with a cat > the sound of glass jars full of gravel being hurled into a tree shredder > Justin Beiber >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.I.A. > Burzum
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:02 (fifteen years ago)
And as far as the Priest/Maiden divide goes, Priest have better albums but Maiden kills 'em live.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:04 (fifteen years ago)
^^There is great truth in that statement. Not that Priest are a bad live band - or at least not the several times I've seen them over the years. But Maiden are something else.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:21 (fifteen years ago)
maiden have gotta be one of the most consistent bands around, tho. just about everything they've ever put out has been pretty solid. I don't even mind the blaze bailey years.
and yeah, they're
quality varies more wildly with sabbath/priest. which can be fun and surprising (never say die) or... not (turbo).
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
lol, meant to write this:
and yeah, they're [maiden] just so much fun live
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)
actually, I haven't listened to turbo since I was 15 or so and I know it has some boosters around here. I prob should listen again.
and even though it's been a few years, these lyrics will always stay with me:
You say I waste my life awayBut I live it to the fullHow would you know anywayYou're just mister dull
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
> someone beating a baby with a cat >
Joanna Newsom joke goes here
― John Disk & The Fetus People (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
Prefacing this with an "I love Joanna Newsom & her music," but:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/364328/Joanna+Newsom.jpg
― ksh, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
I tried listening to Joanna Newsom once. Not any of the albums, I just watched a YouTube clip of her performance on the Jimmy Fallon show, and it wasn't so much "good" or "bad" as inexplicable. Her aesthetic is utterly alien and incomprehensible to me - I will never voluntarily listen to her music again, because there was literally nothing about it that was appealing. At the same time, there was nothing particularly offensive about it. It was just utterly weird and disconcerting, like watching someone with major cognitive impairment perform acrobatics. You want to applaud, you want to be encouraging, but at the same time there's a great sadness to the whole thing.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
Justin Beiber >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.I.A
this is madness, btw
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
Turbo is not a great album by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it is defensible. It's certainly fun, and it has a few genuine gems -- the title track and that chilling, criminally overlooked "Out in the Cold." Even the dopey hair metal tunes like "Parental Guidance" and "Wild Nights" are incredibly catchy. It's just a definite oddity in their catalog. However, it TROUNCES the tepid Ram It down, which, with the exception of the title track and the stunning "Blood Red Skies," is almost entirely unlistenable.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
I think there are at least three or four really good songs on Ram It Down (wasn't it originally supposed to be the second half of a two-disc set, with Turbo being Disc One? I thought I remembered hearing that somewhere), including the awesomely hilarious cover of "Johnny B. Goode."
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
Joanna Newsom? Justin Beiber? MIA? What the fuck thread am I on?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)
I love "Out in the Cold". Turbo's not a bad hard rock record at all.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
I dig turbo quite a bit, but im not going to lie, a lot of that is youthful lawnmowing with my walkman on nostalgia.
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
I'll never forget the feeling of disappointment when that album came out though...they followed the very heavy and chilly Defenders with what pretty much amounts to a pop record. "We waited two years for this?"
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
I have very fond memories of Turbo. Saw them for the first time on that tour, and it was the first time anyone ever shared a joint with me (I was 13). Very fond memories of singing "Parental Guidance" at the top of my lungs and looking around while yelling "Fuck yeah!" between songs. The older gents who got me and my friend stoned kept us out of trouble and stopped my friend from falling off the upper deck.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
Picked up Triptykon's debut today. Quite an album! It's exactly what I had hoped - picking up where Monotheist left off and pummeling along without faltering. Adrien - I agree with your twitter comment that his clean voice does sound a bit like Peter Murphy at times, which is more than fine with me.I also like that Mr. Warrior provides little notes on each of the songs along with the lyrics. Nice addition to reward people buying physical product.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to shell out for the actual Triptykon album, the design sounds incredible. It's not out in Canada for another week, though.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
Canada: insufficiently morbid.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
^ True.
Meanwhile, for those of us who haven't seen it yet...
http://decibelmagazine.com/assets/covers/medium/db_cover_0510.jpg
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/2001somws6/headbang.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/2001somws6/headbang.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/2001somws6/headbang.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/2001somws6/headbang.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/2001somws6/headbang.gif
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
xp to Adrien: Ugh. I do not support that.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
Adrien - your blog post is superb, nails my feelings dead-on, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
what the hell kind of goofy face is he making on that cover
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
I think he's going for an inscrutable Bonnie Prince Billy thing. Not working; looks half-paralyzed.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
for some reason the first thing i thought was James Hetfield.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:07 (fifteen years ago)
it's got a strong "O RLY?" vibe to me
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)
"And as far as the Priest/Maiden divide goes, Priest have better albums but Maiden kills 'em live."
I've never seen either live, but I have no doubt that this is true.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)
i saw Dillinger last night ....dunno that I categorize them as metal but it reinforces my stereotype of metalheads that attend concerts.
At one point, while waiting for DEP to take the stage, a song by Acid Bath was playing over the loudspeaker, and one of the metalheads behind me starts screaming YEAAAAA, ACID BATH!!!! YEAAAAAAAA!!!!! and starts screaming along with the lyrics to the song and headbanging.
I'm not even fully convinced that he wasn't in some drug induced state and thought they were actually performing...
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)
What's with Varg doing The Rock's eyebrow thing up there?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
I thought more Lars Ulrich, actually.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
me too
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)
do you smell the church that the Varg is cooking? xxpost
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
TS: Avoiding listening to Varg because of his shady past/politics vs. Giving him a spin anyway
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:29 (fifteen years ago)
shady
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
past
Kills
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
Friends
hates
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
i haven't heard a burzum album to date because when he was in his heyday I refused to listen to him because of the Euronymous murder and his neo-nazism but I grew to realize that made me a hypocrite given the nature of my cd collection.
so...best Burzum cd to start with if I were to start sinning and listen?
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
Filosofem
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:35 (fifteen years ago)
thx
― Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 25 March 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
OK, I've quickly warmed to the new Cathedral and Negura Bunget, but the one I'm really surprised by is the new Poisonblack. They're sliding towards hard rock, and parts sound like an updated Deep Purple as much as anything (maybe I just mean there's some Hammond-y organ), but man does Ville Laihiala sound great. Something like a midpoint between UFO and Heaven & Hell.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:38 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I just got done reading Miles Davis' autobiography and it made me feel like I would be a huge ol' hypocrite if I started getting all indignant about shady things artists do in their personal lives. NOT AT ALL to compare murder with Miles' rep, but in my book it is 10000% not okay to ever ever smack a girl around, but I'm not about to chuck out Bitches Brew or On the Corner.
And maybe its a good thing for dB to cover Varg? I mean, maybe a lot of kids out there that keep seeing the Burzum logo around need to know the full story behind the man - which sometimes I wonder if is as widespread as it is for us internet metal nerds.
Just thinking out loud here, I don't know.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 March 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
It sells magazines. And gets people talking. Simple business. Who can really blame them? I don't even care about Burzum (at all really) and I've already posted on the topic like 3 times in 2 days.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 25 March 2010 11:25 (fifteen years ago)
Varg = O_o
― Doran, Thursday, 25 March 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)
do you smell the church that the Varg is cooking?
lol jjjusten!
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 March 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)
I just realized -- the Varg cover is just in time for Passover!
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
there was a thread on the decibel forum about terrorizer and their burzum cover and this is by far my favorite post:
2/26/2010 12:40 PM
Black metal has a disturbing lack of satan and a needed plate of shut the fuck up stew.
― scott seward, Thursday, 25 March 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Cathedral album now. If you like it, I recommend you check out Uriah Heep's Wake the Sleeper, from 2008.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 25 March 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
I heard one of the funniest ever rock prank stories the other day concerning Uriah Heep inviting a fan to appear live with them the other day. Just want to stand it up before I go on. (It's probably quite well known, but it came from one of the perpetrators and probably bears repeating regardless.)
Favourite Heep right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnKgvOKnIgs
― Doran, Thursday, 25 March 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
And do you know when I heard it? The other day. D'oh.
― Doran, Thursday, 25 March 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know if it's been mentioned here yet but SST has copies of "Hallow's Victim" and "The Walking Dead" by Saint Vitus for $9 each. Just in case any of you have been looking for copies for YEARS, like me.
― John Disk & The Fetus People (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 26 March 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
ON VINYL
This hipster chick scored the most amazing 70s metal accessory out there. Can you guess what it is without reading ahead on her blog?
http://hal-coholic.blogspot.com/
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 March 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, wasn't expecting that.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 March 2010 10:04 (fifteen years ago)
HOLY SHIT IT'S HIS WIFE!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
i've been to two Newbury Comics stores within the past week in my area, and both of them were having a sale on a bunch of metal records. a lot of stuff was $9.99. picked up Nachtmystium's Instinct:Decay and last year's Baroness. not sure how many of their stores are having the sale or how long it'll last for, but if you have one of their stores in your area you might want to stop by.
― ksh, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
Eventually I am going to get tired of Tom Warrior talking about his old band breaking up like it was the demise of an ancient cabal of ruling gods that we all adored.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 26 March 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
xpost: I owe the setup of that Pentagram wife blog to Aesop at Cosmic Hearse. And it was funnier in his words.
Either way-- SURREAL!
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 March 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
Oh hey Nate, got the ludicra posters. Any idea who the openers are so I can put them in the info at the bottom?
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Friday, 26 March 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
It is surreal! But, you know, old rocker dude in hot, young wife non-shocker!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 March 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
Until I met my husband, I always wondered what it must be like to be in a lesbian relationship, be the same size, have similar styles, and be able to share a wardrobe (idealistic, I know). I guess it's a similar concept if you have a same-sex twin, but undoubtedly my twin would be vastly more successful, better-looking, and not go to Crown Fried Chicken at 3am to fetch me BBQ ribs when I'm pregnant.
My husband is of a very small build and therefore I have open-access to a wardrobe of studded leather, drapey satin, crinkled lame and hand-sequined denim, all perfected and honed over the decades. Bobby's style has changed throughout the years, but his affinity for high-quality original items and unique ensembles has remained basically the same. This is a man I would admire for his ability to make a bold statement and accessorize even if I didn't wash his underwear.
this made me loli'm not very impressed with her fashion statements, though
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Friday, 26 March 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
There was some hilarious / endearing homesick stoner tweeting going on between those two last year while Bobby was touring Europe with Pentagram.
― Thijs, Friday, 26 March 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
ha, thanks mr. liebling for my new screen name
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 27 March 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)
The Crinn. Fucking A. If this album were instrumental, I would be going 100% insane trying to convince people to buy it. Fucking super-tech spacey shit that I love. But the vocals. Fucking hardcore/post-death screamo shit has to be stopped. Zero publicity boycott an' shit. This is a fucking excellent band, and their album is ruined by the vocals.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
But the kiddies love that stuff, unfortunately.
There's some insane chops on display on that album, that's for sure.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
it's SO GOOD. and the vocals are SO BAD. this extended breakdown in track 3 is like GGGGGHHHHHHAAAAHHH GIMME MORE and then there's a sweet slow part and I just know it'll shortly be spoiled, completely, by more hyper-compressed tray-table caterwauling. srsly young cats. it's not that I don't love loud screaming. loud screaming is awesome. characterless one-note emotion-free screaming is not.
if the "hardcore" style of vocal isn't a dealbreaker for anybody on this thread though, holy shit, this album is loaded with instrumental treats.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
God this is really pissing me off
There's a pretty incredible meta-moment on the new Scorpions album. "Sly" is a power ballad about a girl who was conceived to, and subsequently named after a Scorpions power ballad. "Still Loving You"...get it?
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 28 March 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)
Metasleaze.
Man, this Triptykon album is too fucking long. If you can't fit it on one LP (maybe two, if it's REALLY, REALLY STRONG), edit it or don't put it out.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 March 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)
The new Bison disc is a logical next step after Quiet Earth; a few more acoustic bits, but generally their sound remains big 'n' loud and fairly Mastodon-ish but with a much less hyperactive drummer.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
"Man, this Triptykon album is too fucking long. If you can't fit it on one LP (maybe two, if it's REALLY, REALLY STRONG), edit it or don't put it out."
I invoke the law of 36:42. If an album is longer than South Of Heaven, then there has to be a good reason for it and it has to be really fucking great. and that's me being nice. if i were to invoke the law of 28:25, man, 99% of all bands would fail in a big way.
― scott seward, Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
WORD. I'm kind of a liberal, though, I'll allow up to like 43 minutes.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
okay i've inspired myself to have a slayer tape party. starting with haunting the chapel.
i was gonna listen to these death demos on tape that i never listen to, but they'll keep. mantas rehearsals!
― scott seward, Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
yeah from the musician side of things though do you guys have ANY idea how common it is for the 2nd thing a person says to you (after "dig your stuff," for which, permanent real gratitude don't take me wrong) to be "why was the last album only 28/32/45 minutes long? should totally have put [name of outtake] on it" - a LOT of listeners, especially European ones in my experience, feel ripped off if an album is short. They think that cost should correlate to running time, and since the cost is already more or less fixed within certain parameters, that running time should default to "longer."
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
IOW most listeners are size queens
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
Albums cost a lot more here
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
you guys realize you can actually play an album twice right
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
Europeans: wrong on album lengths, wrong for America.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
I come down on the "no more than 40-45 minutes of music per release, please" side of things, 'cause a) I'm old and remember vinyl and especially cassettes, and b) life is short and I'm a busy man; I need to finish listening to your album so I can listen to the five or six other albums I have to review this week. The thing that really used to chap my ass, in my Walkman days, was when Side B of a tape was longer than Side A, so after I finished listening to the first set of songs I had to fast forward to the end, thus wasting precious battery power.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 28 March 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
The big thing for me with album length is that metal is, for the most part, a very passionate form of music, and it's hard for a band to keep up the energy level for 80 minutes, especially if they are thrash or death or something that works best in small doses.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)
more metal EPs please. EPs rule and everyone knows it. if i ran a record label it would be nothing but 10 inch EPs. and 7 inch singles.
― scott seward, Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)
Long album lengths really bother me too (for exactly the reasons Phil cites above), but the Triptykon doesn't overstay its welcome at all.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
had to fast forward to the end, thus wasting precious battery power
Us cheap ass eurodudes always used pen(cil)s for fwd/rwd-ing.
― Thijs, Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
EPs rule and everyone knows it.
man that brief window when EPs were ruling the roost was the best. three fucking words for the doubters: tragic fucking serenades.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Sunday, 28 March 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
EPs are the best in every genre.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 29 March 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
I've got no problem with EPs. I wish jazz musicians would go back to releasing 40-minute albums with five or six tracks on 'em, too.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 29 March 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
So, this album will be Xasthur's last as Xasthur . . . he's done with metal: http://xasthurnews.blogspot.com/2010/03/out-now-and-ending-now.html
(via P4k)
― ksh, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
I do not have a ‘shopping cart’ because I’m not a professional black metal internet wheeler and dealer
oh ok bud cool
but if you want to buy single copies go look on ebay. In a couple weeks or so, I will have a limited amount of 11x17" posters signed by both participants of the album. In a few months or so, you can look for the vinyl LP edition on Hydra Head, they'll do nice job with it.
hey wait I thought you said
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)
"The honorable thing to do is to end the band and not hang around too long, like so many metal/black metal bands do. Enough is enough, right?"
hahaha, says the guy with a hundred albums, EPs, and singles and splits and comp tracks who has been around for over a decade.
better late than never, i guess!
― scott seward, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)
geez what a terrible "retirement" announcement
― call all destroyer, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
I will not name influences, genres or anything of the sort.
plz be chillwave
― ksh, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)
ksh it's like you've got a crystal ball
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)
actually, i am Xasthur. in-studio collabs w/ Neon Indian & appearances on Kimmel forthcoming in 2k11
― ksh, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
k'sthur
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
so glad my metal heroes didn't have blogs when i was a kid.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 March 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)
man for real
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new UFOMammut disc. It's pretty great. One big song divided into five chunks, like My Cat Is An Alien crossed with Esoteric.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 29 March 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)
xpost Most of my heroes still don't have blogs and that suits me really nicely!
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Monday, 29 March 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)
elvis was a hero to mostbut his blog never meant shit to me
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new UFOMammut disc. It's pretty great.
Glad to hear that, if a bit jealous. Looking forward to this more than anything else at the moment.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)
like My Cat Is An Alien
please please please dont say its true
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 29 March 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
Black Breath LP making the rounds, sounds pretty awesome on first scan.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 March 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)
Great album, that one. I really liked the EP from last year and had high hopes for the LP, what with Ballou producing and all.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 29 March 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
Xasthur's admission that All Reflections Drained wasn't "up to par" has got me more excited about the new final one.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 29 March 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
by the way everybody the new abscess is total fuckin genius.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Monday, 29 March 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)
going way back up in the thread re: album lengths, I hate overbloated 70+ minute albums generally, although there are a few that fill the time nicely.
I remember debating with someone about Reign in Blood - the guy felt cheated because he was paying full price for a 28 minute album that was shorter than Alice in Chain's "Jar of Flies", and said he wished they had shoved more tracks onto it.
I pointed out that the album is pretty much flawless as is and even though I could hit the "stop" button early, I didn't think adding a bunch of tracks would do anything but make an amazing album just "good". His viewpoint was that he'd rather have 10-15 "pretty good" songs than 8 "amazing" ones. I just don't get that at all.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Monday, 29 March 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)
I'll admit to having a pretty high tolerance for long albums. Bad is bad, at any length, but if a band can get deeply enough invested in an aesthetic to hold it together for 72:09, I'm in favor. The "shove more track on it" thing is question-begging; maybe the other 12 minutes of the 40-minute Reign in Blood would have been just as perfect. I'm not giving up any amount of Lolita Nation or 69 Love Songs. But interestingly, I can't quickly think of a great true metal double-album (not counting live albums and bonus discs and whatever). Can't even think of that many examples other than the new Cathedral.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
A lot of it also depends on the genre for me as well. Like I feel that thrash metal is better when it is over in a short spurt. I don't think Reign in Blood would have worked at the 40 minute length simply because its whole point was to be a quick burst of energy and one could appreciate it despite the minimal dynamics at that length.
There are certainly "long" metal albums that I like, but they're usually of the "concept album" or progressive type (ie Pain of Salvation). Just like an album can be too long, some albums can be too short, although I feel a lot less annoyed with being mad that an album is too short than when it is too long. Having to use the skip button=fail!
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:46 (fifteen years ago)
Appropriately, I'm listening to Cathedral's The Ethereal Mirror (54 minutes) now, for the first time, and not wanting it to be any shorter.
Also, how lame is it that iTunes can't sort my albums by duration?
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:09 (fifteen years ago)
well Cathedral would definitely be one of those that work at a longer length....doom is slow developing inherently (not that that is a bad thing!)
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago)
I can't quickly think of a great true metal double-album
Does ...And Justice For All count?
― Thijs, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)
I'd say the Gathering's How to Measure a Planet? is a great metal double album. Though some might have issues with just how "metal" it actually is, I suppose...
And it might make me look patently uncool, but Therion's Gothic Kabballah is a cool double album.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)
I would say one of the esoteric double albums but the two single albums are probably my faves.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 11:28 (fifteen years ago)
it's a collection, but Katatonia's Brave Yester Days is a mindblowing double CD.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)
also the last Blut Aus Nord was a double LP & was quite righteous
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 13:30 (fifteen years ago)
listening to those early mantas and death demos now. so crazy. can't help but wonder what would have happened if they had got it together to record an EP or an album in 1984. they were already on to some next-level nastiness in 1983 when they recorded death by metal. anyway, listening to death by metal/reign of terror/infernal death/back from the dead/mutilation. 1983 to 1986.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Death1.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
and, you know, for the record, i listen to and like LOTS of long-ass albums. if i really like a band i can go along for almost any ride. i mean, i'm a funeral doom fan. i just think, in general, the cd age has ruined many a good thing. i love bands that leave me wanting MORE. that have me wearing out my vinyl/tape/cd because i can't get enough of it. and this was common in the vinyl age. you couldn't wait for the next album or single or ep. now its like you get a big care package that is supposed to hold you over for the next couple of years till the next one. and don't even get me started about rap music. quadruple vinyl? really?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I find myself having to play editor far too often. But not so often with metal, actually!
Wasn't Come My Fanatics a double?
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
Come My Fanatics was a single album by itself, but when it was originally released in the US (on The Music Cartel) it was paired up with the first, s/t Electric Wizard album as a two-CD set.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)
you read those interviews with people working in the studio and they say something like: "yeah, we've got about 30 songs that we're working on and we'll get that down to 12 or 13 for the album..." just sounds like a slog! like you HAVE to have five hours of material in order to even begin recording or something. not to mention the fact that most people have, like, ONE great song in them if they are lucky.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
I forgot to mention just how much I like the new Raven album. I wasn't expecting that at all, I've been a fan of their early stuff for so long, but haven't liked an album of theirs since 1987.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
they don't make them like they used to...
http://www.danteross.com/blogs/dante/files/2009/05/raven-the-pack-is-back-460-100-460-70.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
That album still boggles my mind. One of the most incredible major label failures in metal history.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)
i like that album. i gave my copy to chuck though.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
I liked Stay Hard, but The Pack is Back went way too far into party metal territory. The cover of "Gimme Some Lovin'" is head-slappingly awful.
It's amazing how obsessed so many bands were with those Roland guitar synths in 1986.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to Fates Warning's reissued Parallels today. Haven't played this in a really long time. Hadn't exactly forgotten that it was great, but had kind of lost track of what it feels like to listen to it. For me this and Perfect Symmetry and Queensryche's Rage for Order pre-atone for everything Dream Theater later inflicted on us...
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
I heard Five Finger Death Punch's cover of "Bad Company" on the radio yesterday and it made me want to drive off a bridge. In what universe would someone want to hear that guy sing?
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)
I just gave that a listen...wow, they totally Nickelbackified it. Just when that band couldn't get any more obnoxious.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
To see official release this May via Neurot Recordings, the Hawkwind Triad album is a fitting tribute to the British band that somehow seems to simultaneously remain unknown to the majority of the world’s rock listeners, while also standing as one of the most influential psychedelic bands of all time. The Triad is unique, as it is an album of covers by three separate artists that essentially flows like an album. Each band -- HARVESTMAN (Steve Von Till of NEUROSIS’ psych guitar based project), MINSK, and U.S. CHRISTMAS -- have approached these 11 iconic songs with respect, but each have also recognized the need for the songs to be reinterpreted in a new space and time. The result is a full-length psychedelic feast that not only captures the feel of Hawkwind’s individual songs, but also has the feel of their classic albums. Even the artwork by Boston artist Thomas Saraceno appropriately provides trippy surrealist scenes fitting to many albums from the 70s. Most of all, the Triad was done out of pure veneration for a band than laid a solid foundation for every heavy, trippy, weirdo band that exists now – as well as for those who will freak out in the future. Hawkwind Triad Tracklist:U.S. Christmas - "Master of the Universe"HARVESTMAN - "D Rider"MINSK - "7x7"HARVESTMAN - "Down Through The Night"MINSK - "Assault and Battery/The Golden Void"U.S. Christmas - "Psychedelic Warlords"MINSK - "Children of the Sun"U.S. Christmas - "Orgone Accumulator"HARVESTMAN - "The Watcher"U.S. Christmas - "You Shouldn't Do That"HARVESTMAN - "Magnu"
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
kinda cool. except i have no idea who u.s. christmas are.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
U.S. Christmas opened at the Baroness/Earthless show I saw in November. The Hawkwind thing is v v obvious. They marshalled a ton of people on stage and make a lotta sound but unfortunately it didn't add up to anything. Boring. Seemed like real cool people though.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
i was just noticing the other day that I have 3 Minsk albums and, like, i bet if i heard any song off of any of them at a bar, i would have no idea what band it was.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)
be kind of a cool bar to hang out at though. if they were playing minsk during happy hour.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
Slough Feg should be on Hawkwind cover album, that's my pearl of wisdom. Dude's voice would sound perfect for those songs.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
Got a glorious package from Profound Lore today...Hooded Menace, Coffinworm, the Howling Wind. Where to begin??? I've been looknig forward to all three. I went with Hooded Menace, and oh man, is it good.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
I ordered 3 cd's at the weekend from them. I guess you got promos of not released stuff? Hows the howling wind?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)
I loved the last Howling Wind CD...I'll definitely get to the new one tonight.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
^totally agree with this
― richie aprile (rockapads), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
Meanwhile, the new Nevermore album is really damn good, pretty much exactly what you'd expect. Though it does get a little ballady here and there.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
they have a new one out? what's it like in comparison to the last one?
I liked This Godless Endeavor, but it was only "like" as opposed to the love I had for the s/t, Politics, and Dreaming Neon Black.
Despite the love for Dead Heart in a Dead World, I didn't like the detuned and simplified guitar riffage, or the songwriting, and thought it was half good half meh. Hated Enemies of Reality.
(really liked Sanctuary's Into the Mirror Black too)...
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
I prefer Dead Heart, but they're such a good, consistent band that there's not much I dislike at all. The new one has a good mix of Loomis riffery and more restrained stuff that reminds me of Empire era Queensryche, sans the suckage.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 04:02 (fifteen years ago)
My Moog track for the new Agalloch record was just accepted by the band with glowing reviews :)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 06:32 (fifteen years ago)
Congrats! :-D
― ksh, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 06:41 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks. I'm not trying to too my own synth here. It's just that even after 20 years of this stuff, I still get excited like a little kid when things go well. Being jaded is over-rated ;)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 07:07 (fifteen years ago)
Working my way, happily, through the Cathedral catalog. Supernatural Birth Machine currently receiving the head-bob of approval from both me and 2yo daughter. A record for all ages.
(Nate: five more to go before you've reached Six Organs of Acceptance.)
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)
holy fuck man, congrats!
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:10 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, that's awesome! any idea when it's coming out??
― original bgm, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
saw immortal live last night btw. it was a blast! (of course.)
― original bgm, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)
Agalloch still in pre-production. With luck it could be out by year's end.
***
I'm hoping that my love for this new Cathedral will unlock some of the secrets of their catalog. I've only liked their purist doom albums until this latest...
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)
Saw Immortal in '02; didn't feel the need to see them again in '07 or last night (especially since last night's gig was in Brooklyn). Next shows I'm going to are High On Fire/Priestess/Bison B.C. next Friday, and then Amon Amarth toward the end of April.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:53 (fifteen years ago)
That Amon Amarth is in nyc? Date?
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Irving Plaza, April 25.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
― ¬_¬ (Alan N), Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/6/1/3610646983ebca1f9db64dccc249e6a3.gif
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)
Did they play this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehnRt3LaLUc
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:08 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, when the lights went on. kinda like maiden and "always look on the bright side of life".
― original bgm, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)
Immortal would be great fun to see. Too bad they're not into more extensive touring.
And congrats, Nate! The wait for that Agalloch album has been far too long.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
― ☀ ☃ (am0n), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
really like the new Fear Factory. it's amazing how simple a formula they've stuck to for all these years, and while they aren't exactly genre defining artists, they know how to craft a solid tune.
saw em tonight tho and boy was Burton hoarse. and I don't mean by the end of the show, I mean by the third song.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 04:39 (fifteen years ago)
ok so was at the high on fire etc. show this evening and i dont want to ruin anyones hopes but U_U
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:14 (fifteen years ago)
not good? :-(
― ksh, Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:21 (fifteen years ago)
bison b.c. - super awesomeblack cobra - also super awesomepriestess - had me for the first 3 songs and then got BORING. also let the not lead singer dude sing more because he was 1000% better than the regular dudehigh on fire - ok seriously how stupid are you dudes. PLAY SOME SHIT OFF THE NEW ALBUM. and lets be clear i dig the blessed black wings stuff (none of which seemed to be happening) but yer new shit is the reason i got dudes that hated yer stuff to come out to the show. waited patiently for snakes for the divine and bastard samurai, but you had to spend an hour fucking noodling and boring the fuck out of me. fuck your back catalog, and fuck you for making me get bored enough not to care if you were going to bother to encore with shit i cared about.
fucking terrible
haha uh xpost yeah NO
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)
on the positive side, i have locked my AWESOME GIRLY METAL vote for the year, and it is the devin townsend project - addicted. amazing.
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:27 (fifteen years ago)
I love that Devin Townsend record! Made my P&J poll last year.
Also, I would definitely say that Fear Factory are genre defining artists -- they pretty much defined their hybrid of industrial and death metal.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:31 (fifteen years ago)
also (and i know this is old news by now) but holy shit the ex deo romulus is the album i should have voted up in last years metal poll (or uh would have if i had heard it). so so good.
xpost yah srsly, track 7 (ih-ah?) is the prettiest poppy thing i have heard in years. i would listen to the radio if it sounded like that!
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:37 (fifteen years ago)
oh boo i just checked the release date and my 2010 girly metal vote is DENIED
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:40 (fifteen years ago)
high on fire -
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), donderdag 1 april 2010 8:22 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Thijs, Thursday, 1 April 2010 07:29 (fifteen years ago)
with love to jjjusten, I have never been disappointed (like, in the slightest) by a high on fire show, and the # of people at a show - by any band, usually - whose complaint is "not enough new stuff!" is generally pretty dang low
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)
I can't wait to hear the new High on Fire stuff live. Hopefully they'll be trekking across Western Canada soon (they always do). And yeah, I can see Priestess being absolutely dwarfed by the other three bands on that crushing bill. I don't really understand the love for that band at all.
Oh, and the new Cathedral is pretty darn great. Especially the first half.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 08:18 (fifteen years ago)
Priestess 'meh' co-signed, but their drummer is quite something tho, one of the hardest hitters I've ever seen. He broke *three* snare drums in the first three song when they opened for Bigelf last month in Amsterdam.
― Thijs, Thursday, 1 April 2010 08:37 (fifteen years ago)
^ Jealous you got to see Bigelf! I passed on seeing the Closer To Doom tour and have regretted it ever since.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)
Hmm...
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/ludicra-the-tenant-review-extreme-metal-gender/Content?oid=1604619
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:08 (fifteen years ago)
That article had me, and then swiftly lost me.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)
I'm kinda surprised Bison are the first band on that bill - Black Cobra should be opening the show. And I like Priestess. But whatever.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Bigelf is a pretty sweet live band. Fun moment at that show: when Damon Fox gave a shout-out to former tour buddies Dream Theater to thunderous applause, he happened to look straight at me (arms folded across my Bolt Thrower tee) and my equally non-impressed mate who gave him a nice big Taake-style thumbs down. Luckily that put a big smile on his face, although he did say he would "tell Mike Portnoy". Good times.
― Thijs, Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)
that review should be posted on its own thread for all to read it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)
what is the most masculine genre of music?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)
ok in the cold bright not quite as drunk as i was last night light of day, i was maybe a bit too harsh re:HOF upthread, but it def was a disappointment not to hear much of anything off the new album. i also have a mongo hatred for the save the new shit for the third encore ploy, which i assumed was what happened. idk tho, because the dude who i convinced to go to the show by getting him into the new album was getting super irritable so we left towards the end of the main set.
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
Usually when an albums only out for a few weeks people complain there's too much new stuff and want older material they're more familiar with.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)
I don't say this super-often: Herman otm!
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, but I just listed the Snakes again, that shit fucking rocks. Id be bummed if it didnt get a big air at a concert i went to. Hell, its short enought to play the whole thing.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
Guys I have tried with Blessed Black Wings like a half-dozen times but, though I really like its sound and style, it just never sticks to my ribs, never draws me back for more listens. Is the new one likely to turn me?
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
BBW snared me halfway through the first song, I must have listened to that twice a day for a month when it first came out. The new one is different, a little faster tempo most of the way through, but i dont really have the writer chops to describe it.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
the only way it's gonna be a big deal that there are women in Ludicra, is if writers make a big deal out of it.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
hey guys i'm thinking about stopping by the record store today, and have bought almost no metal so far this year (just new arsis and new hof). what's one thing i should get? if you want to sell me on it in a sentence or two that would be awesome.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
Ludicra
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
If the new Cathedral is there BUY IT. Everything ppl are saying upthread about it is true.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
I just don't get the Cathedral love. I'll keep trying..
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
The Triptykon album is out.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
xpost I wasn't crazy about the Cathedral I'd heard before, but the new thing is just an undeniable conquering force.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
^^^^
album of the year
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)
I love the new Abscess, like, a lot a lot, so there's that, too
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
ok guys; i hope they have it!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)
Cathedral should be out if you're in the UK; US release is April 20.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
I like the new Cathedral a bunch. It makes me giggle a bit without being ~wacky~ and some of the riffs are all-timers
There should be a name for the thing they do on the last song on the album, where they incorporate all their old album titles into the lyrics
― artfuckoleuthic (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
oh n/m; it will not be out
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
You need to download it and write an IOU to remind yourself to pick it up. I have it pre-ordered at my local shop but couldn't wait after all the effusive praise.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
i'll remember---i try to download in advance as little as possible.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:47 (fifteen years ago)
"Guys I have tried with Blessed Black Wings like a half-dozen times but, though I really like its sound and style, it just never sticks to my ribs, never draws me back for more listens. Is the new one likely to turn me?"
i'm in the minority on ilm, they bore the hell out of me. i tried with every album. i really liked the first ten seconds or whatever of blessed black wings. that drum intro. i never liked anything by them more than that. so, i've kinda given up. watched the video for the new song off of the new album and hit the snooze button. hey, ten seconds of pleasure is better than nothing, i guess.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
xpost re cathedral-- It's one of those 'I can't believe what I'm hearing right now' albums. Are there any other Cathedral records that sound much like this? The ones I've heard don't.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah Scott, I guess, as you once so aptly put it 'I can't love everything'.
re: me and HoF
thanks to the old "bands all remember to tour in MN when springtime happens" rule, here is my 3 day lineup of grueling metal for the mid month:
4/16 Sleepytime Gorilla Museum/Guzzlemug4/17 Finntroll/Moonsorrow/Swallow the Sun4/18 Amon Amarth/Eluveitie/Holy Grail
am i too old? will i survive? do i really need to be able to hear the world around me in the future?
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ Doran's (I assume it's Doran's) Quietus AFD piece on Varg
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
Aw man I wanna see Finntroll!
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
you cant get in unless you dress up as a troll
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)
I bet Moonsorrow kills it live
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
Trollwives get in free on Wednesdays
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
I occasionally end up listening to that Moonsorrow album Chapter V and I tell you what, it's bloody good. Anything else like it I should hear?
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)
still haven't listened to the new cathedral OR the new (off-topic, but cmon, it's the sequel to my fave album of 2007) erykah badu - good timez!!
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
re: moonsorrow -
v. havitetty is the best I've heard but verisäkeet is also cool
also bet the live should would be epic
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)
erykah badu is pretty metal
only have chapter v, kivenkantaja and verisakeet - they seem to like nature and esp birds quite a lot
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really love moonsorrow that much on record I just bet they're rad live
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)
they seem to like nature and esp birds quite a lot
*ears prick up*
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)
New metal records currently in stores that I like: Armored Saint, La Raza; Barren Earth, Curse of the Red River; Defeatist, Sixth Extinction; Fatalist, The Depths of Inhumanity (I think this one's actually from '09); Ihsahn, After; Landmine Marathon, Sovereign Descent; Lost Soul, Immerse in Infinity (again, from '09, but made no impact); Ludicra, The Tenant; Obscura, Retribution reissue; Rotting Christ, AEALO; Triptykon, Eparistera Daimones.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)
thx to local booking hero Swordlord Productions, ive seen all of the listed bands playing that weekend other than Swallow the Sun and Holy Grail. and yes, finntroll and moonsorrow are pretty awesome live.
xpost: yeah i cant say enough good things about that ihsahn record, its amazing
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
also lj since you are around this thread, im going to take this opportunity to reiterate that i think you would go completely nuts over the sleepytime stuff from what i know about yer tastes
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)
Is the Negura Bunget out yet?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
Understood, JJ. You're not the only person to tell me that!
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
I told him years ago, so did abbott I think.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)
Also I think this has also been pushed to LJ upthread but the first 2 tracks of the new Cathedral sound like the heaviest possible Yes with the wind sections of Van Der Graaf and Art Bears drafted in. Actually C. Squire-esque bass assertion throughout the album.
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
just tell him its not really metal so his mates wont slag him off and he will jump right in! ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
― Bonnie Prince Stabby (Jon Lewis), Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:33 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Holy Christ, count me in on that.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't seen either Negura Bunget album in stores, but then I've never actually seen a Negura Bunget album in a store in person, regardless.
My only-one-from-2010 nomination would be down to HIM, Immolation, Ludicra, Rotting Christ and Triptykon. If you have no other metal, and are trying to make up for that, then Immolation may be the most definitively and contextlessly metal of those five. If you're looking for 1 metal album because that's as close as possible to 0 metal albums, then HIM is a joyous rock album with a fabulous goth-metal wardrobe.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
I have to echo all the Ludicra and Triptykon recommendations. Armored Saint is right up there too.
The Cathedral album is so great. It's funny how I finally got around to listening to it right after that discussion on metal double albums. This just might be the best one I've heard.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
Also, what the hell is Swashbuckle doing opening for Hypocrisy?
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
xpost in re: new Cathedral - also reminds me of the Strawbs
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, yeah, I forgot about the Immolation disc. That's another really good one.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)
OT: J0hn, when I see that "Twink Will Ferrell" moniker it makes me think he's starring in a Pink Fairies biopic.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
i love immolation. i wanna hear the new one.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Nobody's mentioned Vasaeleth yet. That's the death metal album to grab, in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Definitely have to chime in on the Immolation + Ludicra + Cathedral = best of 2010 so far.
I saw Moonsorrow live and was not as impressed as I'd hoped to be. It was a short set so they couldn't play anything off V though... I'd give them another shot under the right circumstances.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
xp to JD-- Hmmm maybe I should listen to the Strawbs sumtime!
― Astley Hunchings (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
Of the vinyl we have at home, Grave New World is perhaps my favourite - it's fucking AWESOME
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
along with Warrior At The Edge Of Time
those albums were made to be heard on vinyl
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
So guys, if you were do a first quarter BEST OF METAL in '10, what albums make the cut?
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
My picks: Alcest, Armored Saint, Burzum, Cathedral, Daughters, High on Fire, Hour of 13, Ihsahn, Lair of the Minotaur, Les Discrets, Ludicra, Nachtmystium, Nevermore, Overkill, Ratt, Shining (NOR), Triptykon, Vasaeleth, Yakuza.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
Nachtmystium isn't out until june?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
Well yeah, I was just going by what I've heard in the first three months. It's hard for me to figure out what came out before April, so I cheated a bit.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
My favorites of the first quarter, in rough order:
IhsahnHigh On FireLudicraOrphaned LandBurzumLandmine Marathon
Still need to get the Triptykon album and patiently waiting on hearing the LotM, Nachtmystium, and Alcest ones.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Also one very, very small justification for the continued existence of Hot Topic:
Was waiting to meet my wife and mother-in-law at a mall in Ann Arbor and wandered into the store to idly flip through the tiny music rack. I was shocked to find, mixed in with a truly frightening amount of A Day To Remember discs, a $7.99 copy of Death's Scream Bloody Gore.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)
First-quarter(ish) stuff I like: Armored Saint, Bison B.C. (not out yet), Cathedral (not out yet), High on Fire, Ihsahn, Ludicra, Ratt (not out yet), Shining (NOR), Triptykon.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
Definitely anticipating that Bison B.C. album too!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
was streaming the ihsahn earlier; i liked it but maybe a bit too "smooth" for me? forgot to look for ludicra, ended up buying no metal :(
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
back to the Fear Factory show of last night - I've become resigned to the fact that with a few exceptions, most metal shows I see are going to have a shitty melodic metalcore band opening.
I don't inherently dismiss the subgenre - I've always liked Killswitch Engage, and early Shadows Fall, but it seems to me that from what I've heard of the genre, there are way too many faceless acts. I'm not even really a fan of Darkest Hour.
I kind of expected we might get one yesterday, being that younger acts seem to be gravitating towards this. But the first opening act, Periphery, were baffling. They were a six piece (from what I could surmise, three guitars, bass, drums, vocalist), and most of the pre-verse riffs were copped right out of Meshuggah's Nothing - not an homage, but a pretty blatant ripoff. But the vocalist sounded like the guy from Dashboard Confessional and they had really lame melodic metalcore choruses. It was sooooooo boring. They had stunning technical abilities, but it was wasted.
The next act, Dirge Within, was worse, as they were hideously generic. The vocalist tried to incite a mosh pit but it never really materialized and I kind of wanted to say to the vocalist 'you're not really playing the right music for that'. Very few breakdowns, and not many 'moshy' riffs.
I guess I"ll never get this genre. I love metalcore aka Converge/Botch/Cave In, just not this stuff I guess. Any examples of really good melodic metalcore acts that are a cut above?
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
no
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
lol - well good to know it's not my ears then.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
stick with Converge/Botch/Cave-In
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)
cool. ok, I was gonna ask about that style too but there's a thread for that so I won't use this one for it.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)
heh it's probably just the same posters!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
The vocalist tried to incite a mosh pit but it never really materialized and I kind of wanted to say to the vocalist 'you're not really playing the right music for that'.
man, this is always so embarrassing.
same thing goes for bands that want everyone to dance. it's like, "well, make us dance then. WITH YOUR MUSIC."
― original bgm, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)
God Forbid is awesome and I will fight anybody who says otherwise
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
Exactly. Generally speaking, if you're a band playing mosh inducing music, and you're an opening act, the pits don't form until the second song. The pit mavens use the first song to gauge your style, so you should always play your biggest pit inducer second. Even though they're a 'melodic' death act, Dreaming Dead got the pit going by their second song despite few people in the audience knowing them.
The funniest example of a musician bitching about the lack of moshing was back when I saw Dillinger Escape Plan back in 2000. It was a bill featuring something like 5 other bands, and a group of young kids named Cerberos took the stage. All of them were decked out in atrocious corpsepaint that looked like it was put on by one of those minimum wage stooges at a kiddie carnival. One of them had a Cradle of Filth shirt on, so I figure "hmm this could be blackened thrash metal or something".
Nope. They start playing hookless three chord punk rock, with "black metal rasps" that sounded like Captain Caveman on top. At plodding tempos. The crowd is clearly amused by them, and half of us are sitting Indian style, and looking at our watches. Nobody is moshing. Nobody is moving. Nobody is having a good time.
So after the first song, the vocalist says, now in a voice that resembles Black Metal Beavis, "You guys should um, mosh or something". After the second song, nobody moshes, and he complains, in a blithe voice "You all need to mosh...OR I'LL KILL YOU!". A frightening threat, being that the kid was about 17 and weighed about 140 pounds, and holding a microphone.
Then, they cover the Misfits' "Die, Die My Darling"...and play it incorrectly. (They used the same chord progression in the verse that they did in the chorus, but the verse/chorus riffs are not identical in the original). At that point, booing commenced from some.
The last track, the drummer asks if everybody likes old school rap, and then begins to launch into a cheesy 80's style Young MC-esque rhyme, and then they bust into their shitty punk rock and never return to the rap.
And they had the nerve to wonder why nobody was moshing.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
I actually like God Forbid, though I haven't heard them in ages. I saw them open for GWAR and they were solid.
If there was any justice in the world, God Forbid would be bigger than Killswitch Engage.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
I liked Killswitch's older vocalist better than Howard Jones.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:58 (fifteen years ago)
when they got him I was hoping it would be the 80's pop singer :(
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
what is metalcore love?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
Baby don't hurt me
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
no one is to blame (for metalcore)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
Metalcore Can Only Get better
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
(no it cant remix)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)
New Metalcore Song
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)
Enjoying the two-song Embers preview that Cosmo stumped for on Invisible Oranges recently. Not quite as druidic as Wolves in the Throne Room or Blood of the Black Owl, but with a vaguely similar density.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 2 April 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)
Got advance CD-Rs of the 30th anniversary reissue of British Steel in today's mail. Disc One is the remastered album, plus two bonus tracks: "Red, White and Blue" and a live "Grinder." (I think these are the same bonus tracks that were on the last reissue of this album.) In addition to a full in-concert run-through of the album, the live disc includes versions of "The Ripper," "Hell Patrol," "Victim of Changes," "Freewheel Burning," "Diamonds and Rust" and "You've Got Another Thing Coming." The third disc is a 90-minute DVD which has the same live concert as the CD (with "Prophecy" added) and a new interview about the album. So there you go.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
Was the previous remastering decent?
― Astley Hunchings (Jon Lewis), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)
got my profoundlore order in today, but they have another couple of albums new on sale now I wish I had waited and ordered too. Oh well maybe next month, im totally skint now. spent all my money i had saved up this year
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, it sounded good. One other thing this version does, though, is restore the original running order, with "Breaking the Law" as track 3 instead of opening the disc with it, the way the first US version did.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
XPost: Cheers Acolethic. It's quite frightening how many people think it's real. (Although I'm not sure how international a thing April Fool's Day is.)
― Doran, Friday, 2 April 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
Caught part of this on the way home today — Acrassicauda was on NPR's Fresh Air:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125471921
― ksh, Saturday, 3 April 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)
Day two of Ludicra tour, John Cobbett's appendix burst and is surrounded by an abscess the size of a baseball. Olympia, Seattle, Boise, and Salt Lake City canceled so far. So much for "De-cancelation".
I spent my Friday night in the E.R. with John. Here he is throwing the horns through a shroud of mortal agony. "The Trooper" in real life...
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs429.snc3/24758_409254006413_741406413_5043196_7700616_n.jpg
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
With luck, dates will resume as scheduled in Denver this Tuesday. There will likely be a paypal account set up soon for the uninsured and bummer-prone. First Mayhem ditched us, now this. I love Ludicra.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 3 April 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)
Hope he'll be OK.
― ksh, Sunday, 4 April 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
They've had the worst luck as far as touring goes this year! Yay Ludicra, boo US healthcare.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 4 April 2010 02:18 (fifteen years ago)
Soooooooooo.
What do you guys think of Finntroll?
― Mordy, Sunday, 4 April 2010 07:12 (fifteen years ago)
A++
― richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 4 April 2010 08:00 (fifteen years ago)
According to Profound Lore, Cobbett seems to be doing better. Re-de-cancellation FTW! Man, if there was one band I would love to see coming to Europe it would be Hammers of Misfortune. But I'd definitely settle for Ludicra too :)
― Thijs, Sunday, 4 April 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)
There was room for a Ghetto Boys homage photo session here somewhere. Get well soon.
― Doran, Sunday, 4 April 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
so i was in a specialty store looking to rebuy fear factory's obsolete on cd, which of course wasn't there (how this disc now is impossible to find in local chain stores here, I'll never guess). but I saw the new High on Fire and based on the raves here, checked it out.
wooooooooooooooooooooooow. \m/
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 4 April 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
That scares me abt the burst appendix, especially the abscess part! Was there much infection? I hope he plays it safe if necessary even if that means disappointing some heads.
Seeing Opeth at Terminal 5 on Wednesday. Super stoked. IIRC from the announcement, one normal set and one set comprising all of Blackwater Park. Catching up on Damnation and Ghost Reveries today neither of which I've heard yet.
― Astley Hunchings (Jon Lewis), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
There will likely be a paypal account set up soon for the uninsured and bummer-prone.
John Cobbett fundraiser: http://www.gigposters.com/classifieds/detail.php?siteid=10951&pre=1
― Thijs, Monday, 5 April 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
Great poster for a great show. And so far the only show of this tour :(
― Nate Carson, Monday, 5 April 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
Just finished reading TGFW's Only Death Is Real, about his Hellhammer days. For such a physically imposing book, it's actually fairly thin as art. Tons of pictures, but most of them are promo photos, and most of those are blurry. The snippets from people other than TGFW are, as a whole, less guarded and more interesting than TGFW's own writing, which, like in his blog, tends to be stiff and declaratory instead of personal and revealing. And there isn't that much of it, either, and the story doesn't end so much as stop. I'm not upset I bought it, or anything, but it's definitely not a book I'd recommend as anything other than a TGFW artifact.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoyed it, the photo's provide a nice down to earth contrast to TGW's amusing selfpromotion in the writing. But yeah, too bad it stops just when Celtic Frost really starts taking off. Guess we'll have to wait until he finally rewrites Are You Morbid?, which I haven't read. Pretty psyched for Triptykon @ Roadburn next week!
― Thijs, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)
Ludicra tour resumes with a quartet lineup this Thursday in St Paul, MN until John can rejoin the group. Hopefully much sooner than later.
Meanwhile, here's the paypal/donations link set up by Wolves in the Throneroom:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=10894259&blogID=532297242
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
Holy fuck. Just getting around to Triptykon, this thing is massive. I love it.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
I think scotts rule of shorter albums applies here. It's no Monotheist sadly, but some of it's really good.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
Oh I don't know, it keeps up such a good pace throughout that I don't mind at all how long it is.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
Is Monotheist something I should look into more or less immediately?
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
yes!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
One of the greatest comeback albums of all time
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
ok, just bought it. thanking you
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
You live in a record store or something?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
I would still say that Candlemass s/t is the best reunion album I've ever heard. Monotheist is... ok.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
Never liked Candlemass. Monotheist, though...that's some almost Gira-esque shit.
Had a good time interviewing Brian Posehn today. We only barely talked about metal, I mostly wanted to know about his writing process and the evolution of his performing style, comedy-nerd stuff like that, but the whole conversation was enjoyable and easy. Smart dude, and didn't just use my questions as an excuse to vomit up schtick, which I was worried about, having never interviewed a comedian before (unless Christopher Hitchens counts).
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
xpost to Herman
iTunes
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)
4 hours to Opeth argghrhrrgh
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
ksh, i know, but it's just strange to see someone paying for mp3s instead of lovely vinyl or cd.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)
:-)
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)
All labels should sell vinyl with download copies so that way you get something physical to play + mp3s for your ipod. Fuck all this need space bollocks!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)
^ completely agree with this
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
btw nate are you actually out on the tour w/ludicra? because if so ill try to find you on thursday
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)
xpost Current 93 did exactly that with their vinyl reissues. You could DL the MP3s immediately.
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
solid screen name Jon L, good work
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
sometimes you just know immediately.
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that's where I've always thought the d/l coupon fails, if you buy from a label directly then they should give you a code as soon as you've paid so you dont need to wait to hear the album. Buying from the shop is different obviously.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
Robyn Hitchcock has been including a DL coupon in his CD cases which gets you a couple of 'B sides' not on the album. That's another way to go about it.
(sorry for resoundingly un-metal example).
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
You need to stop being so soft, boy.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
I was out with them in the NW. But I fly out Sunday to Europe. Roadburn-bound!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
I hate vinyl. Hated it in high school, hate it now.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)
ksh I'm not hardmanning here but I assume you also already have the important Celtic Frost stuff from the eighties, right?
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
and Hellhammer
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)
god i wish i had bought that boxset. it seemed too expensive at the time now its OOP
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
ksh I'm not hardmanning here but I assume you also already have the important Celtic Frost stuff from the eighties, right?― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 4:43 PM
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, April 7, 2010 4:43 PM
i'm pretty new to metal. from middle school to the end of high school i mostly listened to whatever pop, rap, R&B, and nu/"alt"metal was on the radio. loved Staind, Slipknot (their 2004 record, at least), Metallica, A Perfect Circle, and Tool. college was all about indie rock. more recently, i've been actually trying to "get into metal" more seriously. i've been buying Decibel, reading old ILM metal threads, following Rolling Metal, looking at old year-end lists, and listening to a lot of different stuff. it feels really good, and has made me way more excited about music than i was before.
but, no, i haven't heard the old Celtic Frost stuff. what should i check out?
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
tragic serenades ep & into the pandemonium like immediately
then morbid tales, emperor's return, and to mega therion
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
bloody hell, john and I agree ! Get into the pandemonium immediately seconded (ps avoid cold lake, do not, i repeat DO NOT, listen to Chuck on this matter)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, sounds awesome -- thanks dude. i will add those to my queue of stuff to buy.
getting into a genre is really, really fun. cards on the table, i have been listening to some of these more than others:
Bloody Panda - Pheromone (J0hn, you were repping this on one of the old metal thread i was reading)Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God (same)Alcest - Sur l’autre rive je t’attendraiBaroness - Blue RecordBurzum - Filosofem (love this a lot. listened to Belus a bit; need to listen to it much more.)Mastodon - Blood Mountain (it's good, but i love Crack the Skye more)High on Fire - Snakes for the DivineIsis - PanopticonTorche - MeanderthalXasthur - Subliminal GenocideCobalt - GinHarvey Milk - Life...The Best Game In Town
also been listening to some Tool, A Perfect Circle, and Metallica stuff i loved in high school
bought but haven't really listened to:
Darkthrone - Transilvanian HungerEmperor - In the Nightside EclipseNachtmystium - Instinct:Decaythat Celtic Frost record from 2006 i just got
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
Oh man you need Mastodon - Remission in your life
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
And the last Nachtmystium - Black Meddle Part 1 (part 2 is out in june)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
For those of you that haven't sworn off "conventional" black metal, I'm really enjoying the new Temple of Baal album, Lightslaying Rituals. Big, punishing production, not the trebly/creepy old-school style, but still plenty of swirliness and blastiness. French, but not really part of the dissonant Deathspell/Blut sound.
ksh re Celtic Frost: The compilation Parched With Thirst Am I and Dying is a pretty good intro/overview, in my opinion. In term of original albums, since you've already heard Monotheist it might make sense to work backwards(ish) in time: Vanity/Nemesis, then Into the Pandemonium, then To Mega Therion. And if you're still having fun, after that, Morbid Tales makes the transition into Hellhammer. Cold Lake, the missing album, is a quasi-commercial digression whose badness (and weirdness) has been overstated, I think, but I'd still put it last in the priority order...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
that temple of baal sound cool, glenn. I will be checking it out, thanks.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)
also,
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
if you've been listening to that a bunch, the 2009 album (Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue With The Stars) is highly, highly recommended. my favorite album (not just metal, favorite period) of last year and my fave blut aus nord as well. it's phenomenal.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)
Am I the only one who can't stand the cover of "Mexican Radio"? Pandemonium is otherwise great, but that track has always bugged me.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
KSH, based on your list, you are going to shit your pants when you hear YOB.
Also, the first two Celtic Frost are so much better than Into the Pandemonium. I'd buy them in order, starting with the ultra-classick Morbid Tales.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new October File album. It's a good thing Alex in NYC doesn't post around here anymore, because I'm gonna come right out and say it - these guys do Killing Joke better than Killing Joke do nowadays. Plus, there are JK Broadrick mixes of the first four tracks appended. They're not super-different, just a little harsher.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)
alex does still post on ILM, just not on the metal threads as he's either got old or went soft..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
FYI late pass, I got heavy into the Baroness album for like a month; I love the unifying theme so much.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 23:42 (fifteen years ago)
october file: the band anything like october file: the awesome die kreuzen album?
― original bgm, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
(confessional time: I've never listened to killing joke, so the ref point is lost on me)
― original bgm, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
argh, make that "confession" time. I need to spend some more time at the grammar rodeo.
― original bgm, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)
You should get the first 3 Killing Joke albums today.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:13 (fifteen years ago)
Especially if you like Die Kreuzen.
otm. that album is their crowning achievement imo & I say this as a guy who had work which transforms God at or near the top of my year-end list.
you know, my sense of it is so completely tied to the time in which it happened - I wasn't the biggest metalhead in the world, but I got into CF about a year before Pandemonium, and I had this feeling that great shit was going to happen (because: the Tragic Serenades EP is probably one of the ten greatest releases in the history of metal imo). ("probably" because it would take me months to work out what the rest of that list consisted of.) but to me, then, anyway, the concept of the from-left-field cover version was pretty damn new, and it was a shocking move, and then I saw them on that tour, and the long beach metalheads totally transitioned their energy from moshpit of death to we're all bros havin a good time for that number - they all yelled "what! does! he! say!" in the ridgeway cadence instead of the tg warrior "whatduz he SAY!" and it was like...I don't know. from that track, you can hear a dialogue between cf & Bay Area thrash, almost. it's a cool move, and a really interesting tossed-off way to kick off an album that proceeds to take no prisoners.
xpost for the love of God yes get at least the first two Killing Joke albums, which are among the best albums of their time.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)
"it was like...i don't know" = it was such an incredible concert moment that the song was sort of reimagined permanently for me.
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
In addition to the first two Killing Joke albums I also recommend the EP collection Chaos for Breakfast (early singles, even dubbier and more fucked-up than the first album) and the live album Ha!
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
alright, sounds like I need some killing joke in my life! I'll definitely be looking into their early stuff. thanks, guys.
― original bgm, Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)
If you're US-based, Chaos for Breakfast is crazy expensive; if you're in the UK, though, you can get it pretty cheap through Amazon. Don't know why that is, but it is.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
i will also join the first 2 killing joke albums chorus. so so great (i like some of the later period stuff too, but its uh different. i think im the only person left repping for Extremities, Dirt And Various Repressed Emotions, and i will even on a strange day say some posi stuff about outside the gate).
― HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 April 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
CF is tied to the time and experience of discovering them for me, too. Celtic Frost, Slayer, Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeth -- I moved from Dallas to Boston for college in 1985, so the second half of the 80s, musically, for me, was all about pushing deeper into worlds I'd had only cursory notions of before.
And yeah, "Mexican Radio" came along way before it was routine to hear serious metal versions of seriously non-metal songs. I think Anacrusis did a New Model Army song around the same time. I have a basically unlimited appetite and tolerance for that kind of thing. Just broaching the subject kicks my mind into a groove of thinking up combinations I want to hear. The one that just occurred to me would be Evoken doing Thomas Dolby's "The Flat Earth".
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 April 2010 03:22 (fifteen years ago)
Also, having said above that Cold Lake isn't so bad, I felt obliged to listen to it again, since I hadn't in a good long time. I stand by my opinion. It's got bad parts, and embarrassing parts, and I won't be surprised to read lots of depressing stories about it in Warrior's next volume, but plenty of decent bands have made far worse albums than that.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 April 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)
From day one I've had a weird, perverse admiration for "Cherry Orchards".
As for Killing Joke, although the first two albums are undeniably great, I actually prefer the Fire Dances/Night Time era that followed...
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 April 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)
I got into them via Extremities (Money Is Not Our God via 120 Minutes) and then Pandemonium a few years later - which will always hold a special place in my heart. Can't beat the first two + Night Time, though.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 8 April 2010 06:25 (fifteen years ago)
i think im the only person left repping for Extremities, Dirt And Various Repressed Emotions
rockapads likes it! i like it, too! it was also my first KJ record.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 8 April 2010 07:16 (fifteen years ago)
Killing Joke: First two albums, Ha! (great call), Extremities, Laugh I Nearly Bought One (singles collection with some killer tracks), second ST album with Dave Grohl on drums, Hosannahs From The Basements Of Hell and the new stuff sounds amazing. You should check out their non-Jaz project Murder Inc as well. A few people have taken on Killing Joke and done it quite well including Ministry and Prong. The best stuff with KJ is often B-side and rare material... 'Change' (Requiem B-side), 'Psycche' live (Ha!), 'Turn To Red' (various mixes) 12"...
I really like the new Soulfly album. There. I've said it.
― Doran, Thursday, 8 April 2010 10:24 (fifteen years ago)
So the new Darkthrone album is on Spotify, no one mentions having listened to it upthread, anyone heard it yet?
― Neil S, Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)
I played it once, it didn't make much impression.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
I love it to pieces myself but Darkthrone is so high-concept now it's difficult to talk about them
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
if you're a Transilvanian Hunger or Funeral Moon fan, be aware that Darkthrone has lost all interest in that kinda stuff - they're kind of historians or custodians of metal now
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
custodians of metal
Now I'm picturing Fenriz as the janitor in The Breakfast Club.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 13:54 (fifteen years ago)
I am just irrationally in love with the last few darkthrone albums - fuckin "Canadian Metal" is an all time jam, so is "These Shores Are Damned" and the new one is loaded w/gems to my ears
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
i love 'hiking metal punks' off the last one. so great. and 'witch ghetto'!
― cb, Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
At this point I think I like Fenriz/Darkthrone's music taste more than their attempts at replicating it on their recent albums.
Stanning for old British crossover hardcore bands = <3 from me, but the albums are IMO just OK. Not bad.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 8 April 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new October File album...these guys do Killing Joke better than Killing Joke do nowadays.
Had no idea October File had a new one, but that's pretty much what I was saying about their last album, from a couple years ago:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/05/not-the-end-of-the-world-for-killing-joke-fans.html
Killing Joke's best album is their first one, then their second, then their third (Revelations); never cared about them after that, but yeah, that early live EP Ha! is good too. Never heard of the B-sides comp mentioned above, but then, in the U.S., "Change" (their best song) was on the debut album, which I guess it wasn't in England.
Celtic Frost, I'm more or less with Glenn -- Into The Pandemonium, then To Megatherion, then either Vanity/Nemesis or Cold Lake, which I've been calling underrated for years, and yeah, Parched With Thirst etc. is a good overview. Have never had any use for their first album and EP, Hellhammer, or their last album (but then I'm a wimp who probably hates metal so don't ask me.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
Just tried to listen to the one song October File has on their MySpace page, but it must be malfunctioning, because all I hear the singer saying is "Advil, advil, advil", over and over again. I turned it off and took some, and feel better instantly. Man, that advil works fast!
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 April 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)
ksh please also hear some Agalloch and the Shrinebuilder album from last year. This is urgent.
Opeth 20th anniversary show last night was killer awesome. First set was the Blackwater Park record, second set was 'Evolution- An Opeth Anthology' where they played one song from each record, in chronological order, with avuncular stage chat from Mikael in between each number.
He cautioned the crowd not to overlook the first Darkthrone album ('when they were death metal!), mentioned how he had writer's block between Damnation and Ghost Reveries but overcame it by starting to experiment with alternate tunings, and introduced the selection from My Arms Your Hearse by saying 'at this point we were getting totally sick of all the melodic death metal, which was huge in Norway by this point, like Roxette or Ace Of Base. So we sounded like this...'
Sound was tubby with no highs for the first two or three songs of Blackwater but someone sorted it by mid-set at which point everything sounded awesome. Walk-on music for the second set was Popol Vuh's hammer-on spectacular 'Kliener Krieger'-- love this guy's taste in records. The last two tracks, one from Ghost Reveries and one from Watershed, really kicked it up even higher, you could tell the band is still really in love with this relatively fresh material.
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
Jealous! Opeth has gotten SO good live, in such a relatively short time.
He's right about Soulside Journey. By far my favorite Darkthrone.
As for the Killing Joke debate, I'm shocked at how little love there is for album 3 Revelations. It's so dark and morose and grinding. Love it equally to the first. I always thought the second album was the (very slight) sophomore slump.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
Nate I owe you a CD-R of barbaric film scores argh sorry for forgetting!
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)
ooh share with all of us! i love film scores.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Opeth has gotten SO good live, in such a relatively short time.
Yeah, this is actually why I skipped the show - I don't think they are very good live. Impeccable performances of music I enjoy, yeah, but it just feels more like a recital than a rock show.
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
xpost Hmm well maybe I can do it as a series of uploads then and share the links privately with those interested. Probably about 600 MB of stuff I am thinking.
Phil, it was interesting, the more recent the material the less recitalish it got and the more on fire with r&r.
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Also the performances of tracks off the earliest albums were pretty fierce, it felt like they were excited to revisit that stuff.
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
Nate: I couldn't not love anything that had The Fall Of Because, Madness, Tension and Follow The Leader on it but Revelations is good.
In fact I only actively dislike Outside The Gate and am not fussed about Brighter...
― Doran, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
my webmail works if you decide to share...i'm mostly a lurker here but i pop up now and then, i swearso excited about new nachtmystium but have no idea when it's going to be available?
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
these guys do Killing Joke better than Killing Joke do nowadays
I'll see you in Hell.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
junexp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
NACHTMYSTIUM Announce Track Listing, Guest Musicians and Bonus Tracks For The Much Anticipated Addicts: Black Meddle Pt. IIFew bands today embrace their own individualism to ultimately craft something truly unique and genre defying regardless of the sales potential. Enter the Chicago-based NACHTMYSTIUM who embrace the true spirit of individuality and intolerance forming solely as an outlet to express the extreme musical visions and dark invocations of all those involved.This vicious, uncompromising group’s (led by mastermind Blake Judd) much anticipated new full-length offering, Addicts: Black Meddle Pt. II, is set for a June 8th, 2010 release. As with 2007's critically praised Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I, the album was recorded once again with Sanford Parker (Minsk) at Volume Studios. They have enlisted the talents of Wrest (Leviathan, Lurker of Chalice, Twilight) to record all drum tracks as well as Will Lindsay (Wolves in the Throne Room, Middian) on bass for this new album, which was hailed by Decibel Magazine as “One of the 25 most anticipated albums of 2010.”Addicts: Black Meddle Pt. II track listing:1. Cry For Help2. High on Hate3. Nightfall4. No Funeral5. Then Fires6. Addicts7. The End Is Eternal8. Blood Trance Fusion9. Ruined Life Continuum10. Every Last DropThere will also be a limited edition, double gatefold vinyl featuring the bonus track “Macrocosmic” and an iTunes exclusive bonus track featuring “Every Last Drop” remixed by James Plotkin (Khanate, Phantomsmasher). The album's artwork was done by Jimmy Hubbard and Seldon Hunt, and the album features guest vocals by Bruce Lamont (Yakuza) and guitar solos by Russ Strahan (Pentagram) and Matt Johnson (Pharoh).Judd further describes his excitement over this upcoming album: “Our love for post rock and industrial (a la Ministry, Killing Joke, etc) is even more present this time around. We feel that we made a record that will continue to push extreme music into uncharted territories. We hope to see you all soon.”NACHTMYSTIUM kicked off their 2010 touring cycle by joining up with Kreator and Voivod, are currently embarked on their European with Jarboe, and will be touring the U.S. with EyeHateGod this June. Check out the band's full routing on their official Myspace:http://www.myspace.com/nachtmystiumhttp://centurymedia.com
Few bands today embrace their own individualism to ultimately craft something truly unique and genre defying regardless of the sales potential. Enter the Chicago-based NACHTMYSTIUM who embrace the true spirit of individuality and intolerance forming solely as an outlet to express the extreme musical visions and dark invocations of all those involved.
This vicious, uncompromising group’s (led by mastermind Blake Judd) much anticipated new full-length offering, Addicts: Black Meddle Pt. II, is set for a June 8th, 2010 release. As with 2007's critically praised Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. I, the album was recorded once again with Sanford Parker (Minsk) at Volume Studios. They have enlisted the talents of Wrest (Leviathan, Lurker of Chalice, Twilight) to record all drum tracks as well as Will Lindsay (Wolves in the Throne Room, Middian) on bass for this new album, which was hailed by Decibel Magazine as “One of the 25 most anticipated albums of 2010.”
Addicts: Black Meddle Pt. II track listing:1. Cry For Help2. High on Hate3. Nightfall4. No Funeral5. Then Fires6. Addicts7. The End Is Eternal8. Blood Trance Fusion9. Ruined Life Continuum10. Every Last Drop
There will also be a limited edition, double gatefold vinyl featuring the bonus track “Macrocosmic” and an iTunes exclusive bonus track featuring “Every Last Drop” remixed by James Plotkin (Khanate, Phantomsmasher). The album's artwork was done by Jimmy Hubbard and Seldon Hunt, and the album features guest vocals by Bruce Lamont (Yakuza) and guitar solos by Russ Strahan (Pentagram) and Matt Johnson (Pharoh).
Judd further describes his excitement over this upcoming album: “Our love for post rock and industrial (a la Ministry, Killing Joke, etc) is even more present this time around. We feel that we made a record that will continue to push extreme music into uncharted territories. We hope to see you all soon.”
NACHTMYSTIUM kicked off their 2010 touring cycle by joining up with Kreator and Voivod, are currently embarked on their European with Jarboe, and will be touring the U.S. with EyeHateGod this June. Check out the band's full routing on their official Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/nachtmystiumhttp://centurymedia.com
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
ok so june 8
this is my favorite kind of painfully overzealous music writing ...who embrace the true spirit of individuality and intolerance forming solely as an outlet to express the extreme musical visions and dark invocations of all those involved.
― figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
why because it sound intersting
― Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
new screennamechose dark invocations because i have more of those than extreme musical visions tbh
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
"Yeah, this is actually why I skipped the show - I don't think they are very good live. Impeccable performances of music I enjoy, yeah, but it just feels more like a recital than a rock show."
This describes the first 5 Opeth shows that I saw. But last year, something changed. Of late, seeing Opeth live has become more similar to seeing Rush or (I imagine) Led Zeppelin. They've really become hair-raising on stage. And I'm saying this as a guy that sees a hundred shows a year...
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)
I'd like to offer a balanced opinion of the new Howl and Misery Index albums, but Relapse has polluted the promos with the most obtrusive beeps I've ever heard. Every 30 seconds. I'm not reviewing these until they leak now.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
But Adrien them beeps are the post-rock influence don't ya know!
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
Ha. If it was an Oren Ambarchi album it probably wouldn't be so bad.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
Are those the ones from the Haul1x promo e-mail from this afternoon? If so, I won't bother wasting the time or drive space to download them. I hate when they do that.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
thanks for the heads up on the beeps, I'll just ignore that email now & probably the albums too - that's a fuckin insulting promotional strategy imo
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
not a critic so I obv haven't heard any of these promos... but forget whether it's insulting or not. - that just seems like such a self-defeating strategy! I would totally end up hating any album that beeped at me every 30secs like that.
― original bgm, Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
make the whole reviews about the beeping and how shite it is. They will soon stop doing it if everyone did that. They need positive reviews to sell their product.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
That sort of review has been written before, and it's always really, really obnoxious because no one besides critics care. At all.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 9 April 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I've read a few of those reviews before, and they just come across as kind of petulant. I do wish labels would knock it off though.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 April 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)
just decided to give The Locust another go with their Plague Soundscapes album...so far so good.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 9 April 2010 03:33 (fifteen years ago)
Argentinian heavy metal band with Hasidic lead singer -- Atzmus (Atzmus in Hebrew means 'essence')
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKaN82PWkyY
― Mordy, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
Ironically enough, I read the Decibel review of the Howl record last night -- and the reviewer does mention the beeps. So there you go, Pfunk.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Decibel is sliding toward d-bagdom. I would never have run a review that included bitching about beeps on a promo.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
just dont review albums then if they have beeps or voiceovers.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)
mortal kombat soundtrack an unfortunate victim of new "no beeps/voiceovers" policy.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 April 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
it explains phils hatred of IDM ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)
I have a hatred of IDM? [Pretty much every Autechre release from LP5 through the new one in my iPod right now.]
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)
curious - are you not into their pre-lp5 stuff? or is the newer material just what happens to be on your ipod right now.
― original bgm, Friday, 9 April 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)
Don't like the early stuff. Owned Tri Repetae (the 2CD US version that came paired with EPs), but it was too crunchy/industrial - not what I come to Autechre for.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 9 April 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)
interesting. I've never found anyone who only rates the later stuff but have found plenty of folks who feel the opposite way.
not saying this is a negative, btw. I (mostly) love it all.
also, my fave slab of ae probably is the US bonus disc for tri repeatae!
― original bgm, Friday, 9 April 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)
I would never have run a review that included bitching about beeps on a promo.
Yeah, in the end that's just not necessary, everyone forgets about beeps or voice-overs once the actual record's out. If I'm assigned such an album by a magazine, I bite the bullet and work around it, but if it's my decision I don't waste my time, and wait until I can get a proper copy.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
Cethkyn rock
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 9 April 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks to all the talk about Killing Joke, I now have Night Time spinning around in my head. I know it's more mersh than the first few albums, but it's really fucking good.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 11 April 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)
Went to see Ludicra last night in Chicago and even down one person and they were so totally great that it was worth spending three hours sitting through two unbelievably dull opening bands.
I would write more but it's 7am and I have to go to day 1 of the world's more boring academic conference and STILL I had to note that this show was TOP FUCKING NOTCH. So very glad I went.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 April 2010 12:03 (fifteen years ago)
I shot a quick interview with three members of Bison b.c. at the Gramercy Theater in NYC on Friday night. Here 'tis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rMAiJWS9ng
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 12 April 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)
Working my way through the whole Celtic Frost catalog, prompted by recent discussion, and I just got to the end of Vanity/Nemesis. I had forgotten about the amazingly great cover of Bowie's Heroes. Intense.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe we should start a metal listening club. I know I've been listening to a lot of classic stuff lately (mostly Absurd, At the Gates, Atheist, Bathory, Burzum, Carcass, Darkthrone, Emperor, Entombed, Life of Agony, Paradise Lost, Sepultura w/r/t the work I'm doing on death metal growl vocals, and then like Ensiferum, Melechesh, Primordial, Skyclad, Subway to Sally, Ulver + Waylander...)
― Mordy, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
i would actually be into that
― call all destroyer, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
oh, great idea! totally would be into that.
― original bgm, Monday, 12 April 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
I would be into that too! Might be a good way for me to fill in the gaps in my collection too.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 April 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)
Working my way through the whole Celtic Frost catalog
Me too, just finished my Roadburn build up feature on TGW and the Hellhammer book. Morbid Tales is still my favorite CF album, but really there's so much to love about that band, it's nuts. Tomorrow Triptykon will play its first show ever in Germany, very anxious to see which 1980s CF songs will be included in the setlist ("Mesmerized" has been mentioned).
― Thijs, Monday, 12 April 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
I'd be up for some sort of listening club. I missed a lot of metal in my decades away - I'd love a guided tour.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 April 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
How would it work? 3 albums per week of a specific era/scene/aesthetic and then discuss em starting the next monday or something?
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Monday, 12 April 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
I feel I've accidentally wandered into a bizarro world Friends set
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 12 April 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
I guess listening clubs aren't very kvlt.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 April 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
more like Fiends.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 12 April 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
Fiends is a great name for a listening club!
― Mordy, Monday, 12 April 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
Question: Is everyone responsible for acquiring the albums or will there be a place they're posted?
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Monday, 12 April 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
I think it would be best if people were responsible for acquiring them themselves, just to keep any taint of the illegal from ILX.
― Mordy, Monday, 12 April 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
Should be separate thread IMO.
― repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Monday, 12 April 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
There's always the advantage of Spotify for our UK friends and those North Americans who use it as well...though on this board that could still be a big minority.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)
If no one else has started one first, I'll start a Rolling Metal Fiends Listening Thread something something when I get home tonight. The real question is upon whose authority/advice we're going to be listening. We could maybe take shifts w/r/t our areas of expertise? Like I'd be happy to offer albums on folk metal, or oriental metal, or NSBM, whatever. (Stuff I've studied/studying.)
― Mordy, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/b/b4/Fiends.png
― original bgm, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)
maybe we could trade off weeks on a volunteer basis? and going by genre sounds cool but I think it'd be fun to leave the picks fully up to whoever selects for the week. (by genre or whatever else floats yer boat.)
― original bgm, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
i would like to participate but i don't know if i can commit to this ^^ . is there room for someone like that?
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
Why not?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
I'm more than happy to listen and discuss, but some of you dudes make me feel woefully inadequate when it comes to recommendations and I'll be thrilled just to hear what gets suggested to listen to.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
Why not?I have 2 jobs and other things to do; I also don't do well with commitment (ask the CHILX book club)
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
No, I mean, why wouldn't you be allowed to participate? It's volunteer recommendations. Probably kerr will be in charge most weeks or something like that.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
ok theni'll give it a tyr
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
Im in charge of nothing, but doing a different genre per week is probably a great idea. But im no writer so I dont think i'll be contributing.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
Wouldn't one of the real troo metalheads like skot or j0hn be the best to run it anyway?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
or everyone could have a turn to choose the album to be discussed
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:22 (fifteen years ago)
I think just taking turns would be easiest. this shouldn't be work for anyone.
quick thoughts on the new cathedral:
* how great is the post-solo riffage 4mins into "painting in the dark"? one of those, "oh yes, this is gonna be a great album" moments for me.
* despite his subdued performance, anyone keep waiting for lee dorian to bust out a "midnight mountain"-style "OH YEAH" during some of this? caveat: I haven't listened to a new cathedral album since the ethereal mirror so I have no idea if the dude stopped busting out "OH YEAH"s like seven albums ago.
* best "kinda metal but mostly hard-rockin psych" album since the last (totally, totally great) witchcraft lp?
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:26 (fifteen years ago)
man, I have to listen to the last handful of cathedral albums now.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
It's funny, the Cathedral fans I know seem to dislike the album.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:30 (fifteen years ago)
you into it?
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
and yeah, this is no commentary on cathedral fans in bulk, but I'm gonna chat with a buddy of mine that loves the band about this one. I'm betting he doesn't like this album. it's pretty loopy!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
I've never been into Cathedral much but i liked what I heard (to which the cathedral diehards I know said typical)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)
Mordy's Rolling Metal Fiends Listening Club (for all of ILX to join in)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)
just catching up on the past week of this thread now . . .
huge thank yous to Herman, Glenn, Alan, Nate, J0hn, and Jon for all your suggestions -- i now have a list of artists and album titles to look into as i keep working my way through all of these albums i've already acquired, some of which i haven't even touched or have only listened to parts of. if i wasn't limited by money and had Spotify or something, i can't imagine how much stuff i'd be swimming in right now
― ksh, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
I believe there's a way for north americans to use spotify.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
So reports are surfacing claiming to have confirmation that Peter Steele has died.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 15 April 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah this seems to have some traction, there was a quote from one of Type O
Wasn't he the cousin of an ILXOR?
― neden magnet (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 April 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)
Tweeted by his gf, it seems?
― THE QUEST IS THE QUEST (aldo), Thursday, 15 April 2010 08:54 (fifteen years ago)
sad news if so. guy had to be pretty young.
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Roger Adultery.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
what the hell has happened to http://www.terrorizer.com/ ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
It's moved to http://www.darkartsltd.com, which redirects to http://www.truecultheavymetal.com.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
so they've scaled it back? A bad sign then. The mag will prob not exist in a years time
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)
i would pick Terrorizer up if the import prices weren't so expensive here in America -_-
― ksh, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
I have some stuff appearing in Sick Sounds in the near future. It's a cool little Terrorizer spin-off, more of a gear, lessons, and features-oriented mag.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
apparently they have a website: http://www.Sick-Sounds.com/
― ksh, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)
RIP Pete Steele. He was a self-aware cornball; lots of newer Marilyn Mason type fans didn't get that, I think. I used to be a big fan but lost track of him as I got older and his angsty image wore thin. I'll drink to him later tonight.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:48 (fifteen years ago)
RIP. Type O Negative were one of the soundtrack bands to my teenage years, and I still spin Bloody Kisses pretty frequently. Guess we're never going to get a Bloody Kisses HOF now.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new and final Xasthur. Long way from knowing how much I'm going to end up liking it, but it's very clearly interesting, and has at least a chance of summarizing and standing in for and maybe even superseding the rest of the Xasthur catalog. Marissa Nadler's vocals conjure a little more Leviathan into Xasthur, for me, which I consider a good thing, but more than that the compositions here feel hugely more varied and imaginative and invested-in than the waves of gray miserablism on the last few releases before this. Dynamic, timbral, harmonic and even emotional range! And maybe this is just me being my romanticizing-prone self, but I think the idea of a portal into sorrow actually goes a long way towards explaining the life-function of music like this: delineating suffering and emptiness as a separate realm, and looking into it not to enter it, but to understand how and that it is not where we are.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 16 April 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)
really, really looking forward to hearing the Xasthur even more than i was before now
― ksh, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
have to admit that the marissa nadler has me intrigued and I never even bothered with the stuff on hydra head.
― original bgm, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
not that I have anything against it, I just never really felt like I needed more than one xasthur album in my life. but this sounds like it could be cool.
― original bgm, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)
Terrorizer site went down cos of some ridic hosting spat, nothing to do w/ funds or lack thereof - forum has started again here http://www.truecultheavymetal.com/forum/index.php
― A piping hot bra of tits (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 April 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
loooool @ that post i linked to upthread when he said something like "i'm not an online black metal merchant" or whatever
really now? http://xasthurnews.blogspot.com/2010/04/poster-signed.html
― ksh, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
does anyone know if there's any easy way to buy a legal copy of Portal of Sorrow? i'd like to hear it, but i'd rather not download it w/o paying too
― ksh, Friday, 16 April 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
these will be way rocking eyehategod shows!
6/11/2010 Unitarian Church - Philadelphia, PA w/ Brutal Truth, Black Anvil, Tombs6/12/2010 Europa - Brooklyn, NY w/ Brutal Truth, Black Anvil, Tombs
and why does the idea of an Eyehategod VIP Package seem funny to me:
6/04/2010 Ground Zero - Spartanburg, SC ** 50 VIP ticket packages available for $40 each; includes soundcheck access, BBQ, meet & greet with the band + a signed poster. http://www.myspace.com/groundzerorocks 6/06/2010 Headliners - Louisville, KY ** 50 VIP ticket packages available for $40 each; includes sound check access, BBQ, meet & greet with the band + a signed poster. http://www.headlinerslouisville.com 6/10/2010 Krug’s - Frederick, MD ** 25 VIP ticket packages available for $40 each; includes early entry, soundcheck access, meet & greet with the band + a signed poster. http://www.myspace.com/krugsplace
― scott seward, Friday, 16 April 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
No Eyehategod for me, I see; I don't go to shows in Brooklyn, and the Philadelphia one is on my wedding anniversary.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
Is that like a principled thing, 'no brooklyn'? Or just logistical?
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)
has a fear of bridges and tunnels?
― scott seward, Friday, 16 April 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
Logistical. I live in NJ and I don't drive, which means getting to Brooklyn = NJ Transit to Penn Station, followed by NYC subway out to Brooklyn, reverse to get back home. I can't get back to Manhattan by subway post-show in time to catch the last NJ Transit train home.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
Oh ok I thought you lived in manhat and I was all 'damn', but that makes total sense.
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
LOL, as fate would have it, they just announced a last minute Shrinebuilder show tonight at Europa in Brooklyn. Ima goin'.
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)
I'm guessing this doesn't bode well for Shrinebuilder making it to London on Sunday...
― ears are wounds, Friday, 16 April 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
Oh shit it's the volcanic ash cloud isn't it! Oddly appropriate for Shrinebuilder...
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)
Is roadburn this weekend?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone got thoughts on the new Line-up Negură Bunget album?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
xxpost
Indeed...shame I've been looking forward to Shrinebuilder for a couple of months :-(
I'm just praying that this ash cloud is going to dissipate by the time All Tomorrow's Parties comes around at the start of May. Last time this volcano erupted it lasted for two years...
― ears are wounds, Friday, 16 April 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
Flights in Scotland are all back on tomorrow so the rest shouldn't be long
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)
Ludicra tonight! With Krallice, Ocean and AoK Suicide (a couple of the guys from Conifer). Haven't seen a show since last fall - overdue and excited.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 April 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)
damn that's gonna rock
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 April 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
This fucking serves me right for laughing my ass off about Los Camp! getting grounded by a volcano (not out of spite - it's just a funny concept)... I'm severely pissed off that this is going to stop Shrinebuilder.
― I'd take the first Lightning Seeds album and add cowbell (Doran), Friday, 16 April 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe they'll still make it to London... somehow...?
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Friday, 16 April 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
The new Negură Bunget has more forest-nymph-ish bits than Om, but I also think they're much better integrated with the metal, production-wise. If you're a line-up purist I imagine you'll find something to dislike, but for me it's not that far offbase to think of Vîrstele Pamîntului as doing for Om what Maiestrit did for Mãiastru Sfetnic: take the original good ideas, and clean them up now that you know better how.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 16 April 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
Right now I'm totally into the French black/doom/post-metal Celeste. They kind of sound like Cult of Luna with some black metal vocals from time to time, and based on their website, the packaging on their albums is amazing. They offer their music for free download, so I'm checking out their two most recent albums, and as soon as I have a little more money in my Paypal account I'm gonna buy both. Here's the link; check it out for yourself.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
yeah I like Celeste.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
That new Celeste sounds really good alright.
And I haven't listened to the new Negura Bunget yet, I just haven't had time, but it's interesting to see, judging by Glenn's comments, that it just might not be the disaster all the skeptics are predicting it to be.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 16 April 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
Phil, thanks for the heads up! going to check out Celeste now
― ksh, Friday, 16 April 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
i nearly bought a celeste vinyl last year but the shipping was crazy expensive. Wonder if they've sorted that out yet.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 16 April 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
Celeste are great. Two of their last trilogy of albums have been year end stuff for me.
― I'd take the first Lightning Seeds album and add cowbell (Doran), Friday, 16 April 2010 21:37 (fifteen years ago)
'Misanthrope(s)' by Celeste is a really good example of 'that kind of thing', also I like that on their Myspace page, if you look up the place in France they say they come from it doesn't actually exist and is in fact the name of a really terrible sounding beer
― A piping hot bra of tits (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 17 April 2010 09:24 (fifteen years ago)
I got Misanthrope(s) last year...the artwork on that CD is something else. Pretty good album, too.
Completely unrelated, Amon Amarth and Eluveitie were so much fun tonight. I never get sick of seeing those two bands.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 17 April 2010 09:28 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going to that show on Sunday (4/25) and will be shooting a video interview with Eluveitie for my MSN blog...definitely looking forward to it. I haven't seen Amon Amarth live since 2006 and my shirt from that tour is getting worn out from frequent wear.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 17 April 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
Quick thoughts on Ludicra in Maine:
AoK Suicide was not very good. Shame, really, because Conifer was great live. I always thought the drummer was Conifer's secret weapon, and, based on this set I was right; he was sorely missed. Stoner post-rock power trio with little to differentiate them from the crowd.
Krallice was everything the opener wasn't. Incredibly tight and interesting. I'm not a big fan of them on record - not much of a black metal guy, to say the least - but they were masterful. Live music is always much more visceral, and they overcame my dislike of the tropes and conventions of the genre within minutes.
Ocean was typically great. They curtailed their performance to one 25 minute song so Ludicra could play a full set (technical difficulties seemed to plague all the bands, so the show ended up pushing up against Portland's noise ordinances that kick in around 1am), but they killed it.
Ludicra closed the night in style. They were the best band there, and, as with Krallice, the live experience overcame my black metal reticence in seconds. The are extremely tight but still manage to swing a little more than in studio. Cobbett's guitar tone is the secret weapon - the classic metal touches are more apparent live.
Got to talk with Aesop for a long time before the show; talked about Cosmic Hearse, the current tour, the joys of cock-rock stage banter, and lots of other stuff. An incredibly nice guy, as were all of the artists on the bill.
I can't overstate it - if Krallice or Ludicra are coming 'round it behooves you to see them. If I were able I'd head to Boston tonight to see them again with Tombs.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 April 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)
This week in Metal Listening Club #2:
Fates Warning: ParallelsCradle of Filth: NymphetamineHIM: Screamworks
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 18 April 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
Holy shit, the new Howling Wind disc on Profound Lore, Into the Cryosphere, is ridiculously good. Black metal from one Unearthly Trance dude and one other dude. Kinda reminds me of what I like best about Nachtmystium, without all the other unlikable/goofy aspects. Really excellent guitar work, and some subtle touches that make the whole thing. Highly recommended.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
available 4/27. looks like Amazon mp3 will have it for $6.93
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)
Buy the cd! Profoundlore is a great label, fuck paying for mp3s.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)
they also send out the albums before theyre in the stores usually.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
Its a seriously great label.
yeah, i probably should buy the CD. haven't really bought a lot of CDs in a while
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
Amaseffer news!
http://www.amaseffer.com/news.htm#april9
(Won't let me copy/paste from the news bit, but basically -- second album in their Exodus trilogy is coming out this year.)
― Mordy, Monday, 19 April 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)
Slightly inappropriate for rolling metal but I'll do anything to help Dan, my engineer metal buddy from work. Dude has a ticket for the Sayreville, NJ Mastodon/Baroness/BTBAM show on Wednesday, but no idea how he's getting there from NYC. Does not drive but is otherwise awesome/smart/funny/good company at shows. If anyone is driving to this show from NYC and has extra room in their car, ILXmail me. Dan will chip in car costs. This ends my abuse of rolling metal 2010.
(the obvious solution of me finding a ticket for said show and driving a rental car hasn't succeeded)
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 April 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
Tell him to take NJ Transit to South Amboy and catch a cab.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 19 April 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
So not a fan of the new Nachtmystium logo, the splattered effect makes it seem like just another Hot Topic -core band:
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/nachtmystium-newlogo.jpg
Seems like Cosmo Lee thinks the album is likely to reach Cold Lake levels of suck. Those of you with Century Media promos able to help me remain optimistic?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
lol what a terrible logo
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
The new Nachtmystium album does not suck. I don't love it as much as some folks (Judd's vocals are still kind of a deal-breaker for me), but it's more aggressive and less psychedelic than Assassins, with a heavy Killing Joke influence.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 02:59 (fifteen years ago)
I like the thought of a heavy Killing Joke influence!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:01 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I've only listened through once, and that was when I was sick, but I remember enjoying it. Definitely more of a postpunk/new wave feel to it. Did not get Cold Lake vibes.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
As I've stated before, I heartily endorse the new Nachtmystium album, no matter what the logo looks like.
Wrest's drumming makes a huge difference too, in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
You have to give them -- you never quite know what to expect!
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:33 (fifteen years ago)
sure, that logo is pretty much terrible. but this one ain't great either, tbh:
http://www.battlekommand.com/products/Nachtmystium%20Logo.jpg
― original bgm, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:36 (fifteen years ago)
I like that logo a lot, actually.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
I like that logo for it's devolved, satanic Voivod look.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 05:07 (fifteen years ago)
any contenders for top 10 metal albums of the year from January - April? i think the only new (from 2010) metal record i've bought this year is the High On Fire one. definitely want to check out the Cathedral record too when it comes out
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 05:34 (fifteen years ago)
January-April, narrowed down to five, I'd say Triptykon, Cathedral, Ludicra, High on Fire, Shining (Norway).
(not counting Alcest & Les Discrets, they've been delayed in NA until early May I believe)
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 05:40 (fifteen years ago)
thanks, Adrein! just bought the Ludicra on Amazon mp3 and am now looking forward to hearing it in full
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 06:30 (fifteen years ago)
woops, *Adrien -- sorry 'bout that
I think the voivod logo is all-time so I know this is a little inconsistent but that nachtmystium strikes me as overly precise.
in my eyes, this is the ultimate:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GRXwm9mLV6Q/SrJfYb42YOI/AAAAAAAABZc/pZnePNwXZsQ/s320/DarkThrone-logo.gif
― original bgm, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)
I've mentioned this before, but I listened to the new Imperium Dekadenz again last night, and I think it's the surprise of the year so far, for me. It's raspy black metal, largely, but with this great vein of melodic airiness laced sneakily through it. Reminds me in parts of last year's astonishing Nargaroth record, and in a way I think maybe it's the album I was hoping from from the first descriptions I read of the new Alcest: mostly metal with some atmospheric influences, instead of the other way around. Don't let the darkwave-sounding name turn you off. If you have time for only one song, track down "Ocean, Mountains Mirror".
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
I certainly picked an interesting week for my first trip to Europe. Been unexpectedly in the Netherlands the whole time after witnessing an astounding Roadburn festival. Many bands did not arrive, and others are still stuck here.
YOB played two titanic sets at the fest and were slated to fly home on Sunday, then Monday, and now NEXT Sunday. So we're excited to be picking up shows: Wednesday in Karlsruhe, Germany w/Eyehategod, Kylesa, Dark Castle, and Totimoshi. Then Thurdsay in Antwerp, Belgium headlining over Master Musicians of Bukkake and Wood Shijps.
It's been an adventure so far and if I had to be stranded, thank Satan it was in the Netherlands!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
PS - here's what I saw at Roadburn: YOB, Goatsnake, Suma, Shever (all female doom from Switzerland), Darkspace, Bohren und der Club of Gore (performing Black Earth), Tryptikon (quite a few Celtic Frost tunes in their set), Thorr's Hammer, Comus (performing First Utterance), YOB again, Enslaved + Shining, Master Musicians of Bukakke, two mindblowing sets from Jex Thoth, and a touch of Eyehategod.
I'm probably forgetting something but goddamn this is the best festival in the world, even with major cancelations like Candlemass and Shrinebuilder. Can't imagine I'll ever skip this fest again. Being here in Tilburg with hundreds of stranded stoners has just lent a certain "doomed" ambience to the whole affair. Go Mount Doom!!!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
Wish yob would come to Scotland. Tell Mike "fuck london, glasgow is better" please nate :)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
I had quite a few friends at roadburn and 1 or 2 who couldn't make it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
COMUS?!?! How was that?
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
Well I'm deep in discussions with them about handling their US tour. Talked to them for an hour after the show and they've already emailed me twice.
The bongo solo was the highlight for me. VERY cool set.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
Oh how could I forget that I saw Church of Misery?! What a blast that was :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)
Yay COMUS U.S.! Please let it not be festivals only!
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone here is welcome to email me their ideas for the best situations for a band like Comus in their town.
Having said that, someone on here wrote me asking if I was still on tour with Ludicra.
a) I'm notandb) if you don't include your return email address, I can't write you back...
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
Great words from Time Out NY's Hank Shteamer on the Ludicra show in Brooklyn on Sunday night:
http://darkforcesswing.blogspot.com/2010/04/just-returned-from-seeing-ludicra-at.html
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
Hey is there a metal logos discussion thread? There should be.
― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)
http://1a2a3a.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/death_logo.jpg
― am0n, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
Bohren und der Club of Gore (performing Black Earth)
Jealous!
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
Silliest metal band logos/names?
― am0n, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
Sorry Nate - that was me. Sounds like Roadburn was all that and a bag of chips. Seriously jealous.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)
Cathedral's The Guessing Game hit the streets of North America today and it sounds so much better than the rip I had. Absolutely amazing.
By the way, if you live in the Northeast it is on killer sale at Newbury Comics - $7.99. Absolutely no excuse not to pick it up at that price.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
Currently listening to the Levi/Werstler instrumental disc Avalanche of Worms. It is duller than you can possibly imagine, even if you're already familiar with Daath's lobotomizingly tedious work.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
thx ez snappin! that is a killer price.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)
EZ Snappin, you are the hero of the day -- i will be heading out to NC later today
― "excellent sound-of-a-generation indie" (ksh), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
I actually like Daath. As for Levi-Werstler, it is on the overbearing side.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
Damn my wife needs to go see her mom in Boston so she can make a newbury comics run for me! Mebbe I'll check Best Buy tonight and see what kind of price they have...
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
Daath don't know how to write songs, only riffs.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
Guys there are two holes that need filling in my iron fucking maiden library: Seventh Son and the 2000 reunion album. Which should I get first?
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
Seventh Son, by all means. Get that at once. But Brave New World is not without merit.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)
I think they're kind of equal, actually. Seventh Son is great, but it's a concept album and has the saggy moments common to all concept albums. Brave New World has a lot of strong, anthemic songs, plus it's the first album with the three-guitar lineup, and I really like them that way.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
I really think Brave New World was overrated -- it actually was pretty much exactly what I originally expected, but then reviews starting pouring out from skeptics saying it was one of the best Maiden albums ever. No, it isn't, though it is good. Unlike the tripe that came afterwards :(
Seventh Son rules, on the other hand.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
I actually think Seventh Son is the only Maiden album in their entire discography that doesn't have a single crap song on it. The rest of their 80s albums, as great as they are (Maiden's my favourite band), all have a throwaway track.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)
I think SEventh son did a better job of integrating the synthesizers than Somewhere in Time did, too.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
going to see Cannibal Corpse shortly. Oh, fun will be had, for sure.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
seventh son is... pretty good. but I like pretty much every maiden album that came before it (and a couple that came after) better.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
and apropos of nothing, I think this is a stone-cold classic. totally underrated.
http://www.amazingbarkingspider.com/music/Covers/Pictures/Iron%20Maiden%20-%20Somewhere%20in%20Time.jpg
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
Badass cover.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah was listening to Somewhere In Time when I posted the above query. Thoroughly awesome IMO with the exception of 'Alexander The Great'.
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
"Deja Vu" is the one on that album that comes closest to being a stinker.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)
figured someone would say that (it's a little maiden by-the-numbers) but I kind of irrationally love "deja vu"
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 03:28 (fifteen years ago)
It's got those autopilot Steve Harris lyrics that get a little too silly, even for Maiden. Like "Fear of the Dark".
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 03:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, fair point. but I love that twin guitar action.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 03:39 (fifteen years ago)
I'm angry that Cannibal Corpse played only Cat Stevens covers tonight....
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)
Here's a link to my interview with Stephen Pearcy of Ratt.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)
argh so annoying the new webfilter at work won't let me read phil's blog. F U parent corporation!
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
I'm angry that Cannibal Corpse played only Cat Stevens covers tonight...
Sorry but that made me laugh my ass off...
― I'd take the first Lightning Seeds album and add cowbell (Doran), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
Apparently there will be a new Worship album out in the winter.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't Harvey Milk do that at one gig? (Play just Cat Stevens covers that is.)
― I'd take the first Lightning Seeds album and add cowbell (Doran), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't Harvey Milk do that at one gig?
Sounds like exactly the kind of smug fuckery they'd pull.
So, who else is going to the Maryland Deathfest this year? I just booked my train ticket and a really nice hotel room; waiting to hear back if the organizers are issuing me a three-day pass before I buy my ticket. Looking over the website, there's nine bands I want to see on Friday, eight on Saturday (along with a couple I wouldn't mind sitting through) and thirteen on Sunday.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
harvey milk did an all-REM gig, I think.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking of Harvey Milk, their new album is some dark, dark stuff. No smugness whatsoever (none of the pop culture references of "Death Goes to the Winner"), it's a concept album that contains a plot not unlike a classic murder ballad. There are some moments that are just unbearably sad.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
tbh, their music is rarely smug. at least it doesn't strike me that way. the early stuff and especially special wishes are fragile, heartfelt, and gorgeous records.
their image is another matter, yeah.
in any case, I'm really excited for the new one
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
I've tried, but they just don't do it for me. The album that came closest to entertaining me was The Pleaser, but even then I just wound up going back to the '70s hard rock they were ripping off.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)
i really wanna hear the new harvey milk. love those guys. and, yeah, i can't think of any other recent records that have choked me up like special wishes did.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
would srsly <3 a metal Cat Stevens cover album
― Mordy, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
and, yeah, i can't think of any other recent records that have choked me up like special wishes did.
had the same reaction. the single they released right around the same time ("i got a love" b/w "the old revolution") has a seriously great l. cohen cover too. their best one, hah.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
Nate, I am so excited to hear about the mighty Comus touring! I am going to move to Tucson this summer...if there's anyway you could work magic to make them show up there, you would be my ultimate hero. Unfortunately, as I don't yet live there, my guess for a venue is as good as yours.
― kissogram powers (Abbott), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
I have found HM to be tedious and lazy live on the few occasions I've seen them live but that's not my experience of them on record...
― I'd take the first Lightning Seeds album and add cowbell (Doran), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
I'm only halfway through the first song and I can already tell that the new Enforcer album is gonna be one of my favorite discs of 2010.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
New Nachtmystium is stunningly good, but I can see how it's going to piss off a lot of people.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
Wish I could hear it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:48 (fifteen years ago)
seen them twice.
one time they were obviously completely wasted and spent half the set tuning. it was disrespectful and sucked a lot.
other time was a pretty great show.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
that Harvey Milk is nothing, my friend saw Steel Pole Bathtub open for Faith No More once and said they played nothing but Sabbath's "Paranoid" for 45 minutes. Only, it wasn't an elongated 45 minute jam...they would just finish the song, then start it over again.
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)
Now for a serious synopsis of last night's Cannibal Corpse show, I'm well aware that CC don't even remotely rank in the top echelon of death metal groups, but I've always liked them just teh same, they were really the first DM act I got into. and live, their material hits another level.
Corpsegrinder is a funny guy as well. He got mad that the crowd didn't yell real loud when he said "This song is the first song off of Vile" because it was the first album he sang on. He also instructed all of teh moshers to slam into anybody who was "tweaking their nipples, sticking their thumb up their butt, or playing with their little dick and balls", although he weirdly made an aside statement about how it wasn't cool to smoke and nobody should do it...which, making such statements on 4/20 is like entering a Bob Marley concert with a D.A.R.E. shirt.
It was a lot of fun. They played mostly everything from every era, though I gotta tell you shouting out song requests is really uncomfortable at CC shows. It's not every day that I yell "ENTRAILS RIPPED FROM A VIRGIN'S CUNT!".
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)
you lie, you shout it every day!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 April 2010 12:37 (fifteen years ago)
The new 1349 disc is very enjoyable. I can't really say what having Tom Gabriel Fischer produce did or didn't do for their sound, but if you hated their last album because it wasn't black metal enough, you'll probably like this one a lot better. Me, I liked both.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 22 April 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)
new nachtmystium song blowing my mindfor better or worse, major widespread appeal imminent
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 April 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
What are nachtmystium like live? I see a live date coming up in my burg.
― I Smell Xasthur Williams (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 22 April 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
what is the new Harvey Milk called? I loved their last album.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 April 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
I had a "Roses" ringtone for a while, it was scary
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 22 April 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
The new Harvey Milk is "A Small Turn of Human Kindness" ... Amazon says the release date is May 18.
― Brad C., Thursday, 22 April 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)
What are nachtmystium like live? I see a live date coming up in my burg.I've enjoyed every one of their shows that I've seen. They always start strong (at the shows I've seen it's either been Assassins or Ghosts of Grace) and then boom boom boom nonstop tunes, and then it's over before you know it. I've never felt that they overstayed their welcome or got boring. Crowd is usually way into it, but I think they played locally so much that people got kind of tired of the routine. One time I saw them headline and Wolves in the Throne Room were the opening band and practically everyone left before Nachtmystium went on. The people who stayed were enthusiastic, though.
I always have more fun at a show when everyone else acts like they want to be there instead of standing around waiting to be impressed. Looking forward to the shows supporting Black Meddle II!! Could be different this time around, though.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 April 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
Black Meddle II is serious album of the year contender stuff. Perfect combination of evil and catchy, plus you can understand what Judd is saying, which is always nice.
I don't know, I would say Cannibal Corpse rank pretty highly as far as death metal goes...
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
Blown away by the new Nechochwen album Azimuths to the Otherworld, as seen on Invisible Oranges. If you thought Wardruna was cool, but wished it had metal bits, this may be your album.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 April 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
Really digging the new Danzig album. Working in a trio (he plays bass as well as sings; Tommy Victor's on guitar and Johnny Kelly's playing drums) suits him. No keyboards, a stripped-down blues/hard rock sound. He's in full-on Elvis mode on "Ju Ju Bone," but there's one song here, "On a Wicked Night," where he sounds uncannily like Ian Astbury from The Cult. I said on Twitter that it's not as good as Danzig, but it's at least as good as Danzig 4, and I'm starting to think it's better. Really a striking return to form.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
so, I guess I'm interested in a new danzig album now. stranger things have happened... but that's pretty freakin' strange.
― original bgm, Friday, 23 April 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)
last "new" danzig album I've listened to: Danzig 5: Blackacidevil (lol)
― original bgm, Friday, 23 April 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
isnt a small turn of human kindness an old harvey milk song from My Love Is Higher... ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 April 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
yep
― original bgm, Friday, 23 April 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)
saw cannibal corpse last night, was bummed because I showed up late since 1349 was supposed to be opening & I don't really give a shit about 1349 but they'd been replaced with Diabolic, who I totally fucking love and would have like to have seen
cc was awesome anyway & skeletonwitch put on a good show
― brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 23 April 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
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― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 April 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
are 1349 off the tour? they weren't there at my show either and the opening acts were apologizing fori t but there was no replacement at my show....
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)
idk but if diabolic has replaced them that's better value for money imo - diabolic are a great band and I'm sorry I missed them
― brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)
I was happy that George Fisher didn't follow suit of like EVERY DEATH METUHL FRONTMAN EVAR and thank the audience for not being trend-following sheep that support that "flavor of the month" crap......
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)
saw ludicra tonight, they ROCKED.
― women are a bunch of dudes (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 April 2010 06:04 (fifteen years ago)
(roxymuzak's band opened, they ROCKED pretty good too.)
― women are a bunch of dudes (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 April 2010 06:05 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, 1349 got volcano-ized and will apparently be joining the tour a few dates in.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 24 April 2010 12:27 (fifteen years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_G0CCWUr9caQ/S9LqkiJdDwI/AAAAAAAAAw4/CPpxsBovS2k/s1600/doom_in__june_poster-final.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 April 2010 23:18 (fifteen years ago)
used my gambling winnings to go on a shopping spree, checking out the new Abscess and Skeletonwitch atm....
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
the skeletonwitch is awes
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
I really liked them live....frontman has a lot of charisma. and their sound is definitely up my alley.
― Bogart Puff 'n Stuff (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)
This might interest some folks...on Sunday night, I recorded Anna Murphy of Eluveitie explaining and demonstrating the hurdy-gurdy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT89FrGpMLI
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)
neat!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 03:19 (fifteen years ago)
Cool clip! It's neat when she does the wah-wah bit with the hurdy-gurdy on "Grey Sublime Archon".
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 03:22 (fifteen years ago)
awesome. they're such a good live show.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
If anyone here has a last.fm account please join our group http://www.last.fm/group/ILX+Rolling+Metal+Group
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
Glenn, Manowar and Amon Amarth aren't metal?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)
new Decibel is on newsstands -- just grabbed a copy. unfortunately, the record store did not have last year's Converge, so i got Caribou -- a decidedly not metal record
― ksh, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)
so uh i was super-psyched to buy the new cathedral today, annnnnd.....the first disc is fucked. i only got it to play once in the car (wouldn't even cue on 5 other tries) and there was some fucked up digital noise on every track. disc 2 is fine, and really enjoyable. should i just return/get another copy? scared that one will be damaged too.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)
yeah return it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
Return it. The copy I bought is fine.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
pfunkboy, I think you meant that comment for the Listening Club thread. Where I was joking...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 12:38 (fifteen years ago)
Nightwish fans, check out 1:07-1:14 and 1:26- 1:31:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjMBsh8x_g
― ksh, Thursday, 29 April 2010 03:47 (fifteen years ago)
What...the...
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 29 April 2010 05:38 (fifteen years ago)
just got around to the new overkill. it RULES.
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously Pitchfork, do you just hate giving metal that much attention? A very deserved 8.4 for the new Alcest, but still won't give it the 'Best New Music' tag.
I guess the better question is, why do I keep visiting that site?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
they obviously dont think their readership will be interested in metal.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
I guess it just irks me because a lot of bands get a boost from getting the BNM tag anymore, and I'd certainly love to see Alcest get the boost in attention (and just maybe income) instead of another boring hipster band.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
countdown to the 1st alcest are a hipster band post ..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)
Hahaha yeah, I figured I would just run with that risk.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
Who chooses what gets the BNM tag? I assume it's not the reviewer, so blame the moron who gets to choose.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
I'm assuming its an editorial thing. I know its a stupid thing to care about in the least.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
alcest are a hipster band just fyi xpost
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
yawn
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
And....... SCENE.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
Pitchfork has a metal column right? Maybe they should have a Best New Metal tag ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
maybe we can have a poll over how Pitchfork should tag new metal releases
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)
I figured I'd get my pointless bitching out of the way in this thread, no point starting a whole new thread over it.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
yeah because it would just become yet another pitchfork thread where they discuss the usual shit and ignore your post
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
Like I said, its kind of a stupid thing to care about, but I was talking to a dude at my local store and he was telling me that he pretty much has to automatically double the orders for any album Pitchfork BNM'd album.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
Pitchfork has a metal column right?
More like HAD a metal column. The last edition of Show No Mercy was almost a year ago.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
Pardon my redundancy above.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:09 (fifteen years ago)
I never read pitchfork unless a review is linked to from ilm. I dont even know what bands they give a best BNM tag to, but Im not surprised they wont give it to a metal band.
but I was talking to a dude at my local store and he was telling me that he pretty much has to automatically double the orders for any album Pitchfork BNM'd album.
Now I didn't realise a BNM tag was such a big deal. I can see why its sought after then.
I remember way back in the early - mids 90s (before britpop really)if an album got 5 K's in Kerrang or a 9/10 in NME, Our Price in Hamilton would get loads of ppl asking for said album (including myself haha). Half the time they didn't have it and would need to order it in. I think I bought the 1st Marilyn Manson because of a glowing Kerrang review Plus trent reznor had produced it. I probably discovered Dirt by AiC that way too tbf.
So i suppose a BNM tag could help pitchfork readers get out of their comfort genres and check stuff out. Did Boris or Mastodon ever get a BNM tag?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
shows how often I've read it then macdara if they dont even have the column now. http://thequietus.com/ is good for metal reviews. Even if doran is upset with me for posting on that ilm thread that Kerrang sucks..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
The former P4k metal writer moved his shop to Stereogum.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
How could a metal band break the mainstream nowadays? Could it get played on commercial top 40 radio without it being a ballad? Does MTV even play music vids now? Is the only way to do it to crossover to pitchfork readers ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
TBH I thought the last Alcest album was way more Pitchfork friendly than this one, and also a lot better. These things aren't necessarily related.
BUT I am going to see Bolt Thrower & Rotting Christ in 2 days so maybe I'm still metal enough, I dunno.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
I'm skipping the Dublin Bolt Thrower show this Sunday - they moved the start time back by 2 hours so it won't end till 1am. On a Sunday night! I'm not metal enough for that, I've got work in the morning.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)
yeah it's still an excellent column!!
― brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
Weird - the London gig starts at 5pm!
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
No bank holiday in Ireland on Monday then I guess?
Indeed, thanks for the heads up on that EZ, I had no idea he moved!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
There is, but not in my line of work.
The start time was supposed to be 5pm here as well, but it got moved back due to 'changes in the ferry schedule' or some bullshit. It's a five band bill, they could have cut someone out or trimmed back the set times or something. Anyway, it freed me up to afford a ticket to see Dinosaur Jr in a couple of weeks' time, so every cloud and all that.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
tbh I figured the 5pm start time was because the London gig is in a student union and they probably have a club night after or something. Doesn't really make any difference to me but my friend has to get back to Milton Keynes after so that could be interesting.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
you guys should stop talking about pitchfork and listen to the new overkill album instead
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
this album outclasses any of the nu-thrash I've heard by a wide, wide margin.
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)
If I've never liked an Overkill album, is this going to change my mind?
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)
Let me rephrase - I didn't like their first four records in the 80s and never heard another note. Should I?
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
I'd say "yes" but it's honestly been 10+ years since I've even listened to overkill, so I'll leave that to more knowledgeable posters.
but check out the title track at least:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAFIkUZqWtY
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
that solo!
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
I'm with you, EZ - I didn't like Overkill in the 80s and the new album, while not bad for old dudes, isn't gonna suddenly convert you.
I'm currently listening to Witchkrieg, the new album by the reconstituted Witchery, now featuring Legion, formerly of Marduk, on vocals. This album has a shit-ton of guest guitar solos by Hank Sherman and Andy La Rocque (Mercyful Fate/King Diamond), Gary Holt and Lee Altus from Exodus, Jim Durkin of Dark Angel, and Kerry King on the title track. So far it's pretty fucking awesome.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 29 April 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
you're a tough man to please
― original bgm, Friday, 30 April 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
That's a pretty good track Alan. Still not going to rush out and pick it up, but much better than I expected based on my memories.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 April 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
just fyi, and for the last fucking time, p4k stated ages ago that they gave bnm tags to things that they felt would appeal to the vast majority of their readership. so uh sorry metal albums ;_;
― vikings: name your reasons why they are so bad and hated (call all destroyer), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
Then that means they obviously dont think their readership is very openminded, and of course im sure others might point out that if they did give it a BNM tag, then they might still check it out and like it. Otherwise their claims to be not just an indie site ring hollow.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)
Why did no one tell me there was a new Karma To Burn album?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
I totally told you there was when I was reviewing it for Decibel. Great stuff, as usual. Picked up an album by the band that a couple of guys did with the son of one of the Kinks, Year-Long Disaster, but my hopes aren't quite as high for that one.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah it is great as always.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)
You woulda found out soon enough; I'm writing them up in the Bands You Should Know section of my MSN blog in a week or so.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)
Not heard of that one, jeff. I do have the 1st cd though which did have vocals. Apparently their record label wanted them to record with John Garcia.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)
Nice one , Phil. Do you know how many pageviews your blog gets?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 April 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)
The new Overkill album is the first of theirs I've really, really liked. They always had moments of greatness in the 80s, but their albums were so mediocre.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 30 April 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)
yep, your positive comments got me to check it out bc I had written them off a long time ago. thanks!
― original bgm, Friday, 30 April 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
Do you know how many pageviews your blog gets?
I always assume about five, but they told me the obit I wrote for Pete Steele got like 80K. That piece was linked on the MSN front page, though.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 30 April 2010 01:36 (fifteen years ago)
Today on the blog: balancing nostalgia with actively hating young bands.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 30 April 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
A few little metal-stats tidbits for today, arising from my using some Encyclopaedia Metallum data to experiement with the system I design for work: of the 55 countries with 100+ bands in EM, 42 of them have more Death bands than any other metal genre (as defined by EM, not by me). What's more interesting is who doesn't:
12 have more Black metal bands than anything else: Belarus, Bulgaria, China, Ecuador, France, Greece, Norway, Russia.4 have more Heavy/Traditional bands than anything else: Argentina, Japan, South Korea, Spain.Slovenia has more Speed/Thrash than anything else.
The greatest single-genre dominance is in the Phillipines, where 62.5% of the bands are Death, and 25% are Speed/Thrash. Thailand runs 56.2% Death to 22.3% Black, for the second widest magin, but Norway is third with 51.4% Black, 21.2% Death.
For most genres, the US has the greatest number of bands and Germany is second. But there are a few exceptions:- France has the second most Electronic metal bands.- Germany has more Folk/Viking bands than the US.- Gothic metal goes Germany, Italy, US.- Italy has the second most Orchestral/Symphonic metal bands.
There are 9 bands listed under 5 different EM top-level genres:
Caer Ibormeith: Black - Death - Gothic - Orchestral/Symphonic - ProgressiveCeltic Frost: Black - Death - Doom - Gothic - Speed/ThrashCoventide: Black - Death - Folk/Viking - Gothic - ProgressiveDeath SS: Black - Doom - Electronic - Heavy/Traditional - Speed/ThrashIndicium: Death - Doom - Gothic - Heavy/Traditional - Speed/ThrashKarelia: Electronic - Gothic - Heavy/Traditional - Orchestral/Symphonic - PowerKrom: Death - Heavy/Traditional - Orchestral/Symphonic - Power - Speed/ThrashLegacies Unchain: Black - Death - Doom - Heavy/Traditional - Speed/ThrashLittle Dead Bertha: Black - Death - Doom - Gothic - Orchestral/Symphonic
The least common genre pairings are Electronic + Folk/Viking (10 bands, Ulver being the only one I recognized), and Electronic + Power (also 10: I'd heard of Jack Rose, Karelia and Skymning). The most common are Death + Speed/Thrash (5107) and Black + Death (3474).
OK, that's enough of that.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
glenn! do you have em's "lyrical themes" data available?
― the unfinest of viking jokes only (call all destroyer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)
Er, in the bit about countries with more Black metal than anything else, it should say 8, not 12. The list there is right.
Also, to "experiement" is to experiment while listening to Eluveitie.
xpost: No, the set I'm looking at is just band names, countries and genres. Scraping the lyrical themes would be very amusing, I suspect, but probably not worth the time/load.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)
i always thought it would be awesome to find the 50 best lyrical themes and poll 'em on ilm. ah well, the dream lives on.
― the unfinest of viking jokes only (call all destroyer), Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, and in the actual Genre field (as opposed to the 11 top-level genres EM defines) there are 6225 different values for 72000+ bands. Of these, about 4600 are unique (there's only one band described in exactly that way). But the top 10 such "genres" cover half the bands, so the overall consistency is actually pretty high. Those top 10 are:
Black Metal - 9,245Death Metal - 6,821Thrash Metal - 5,663Heavy Metal - 5,173Death/Thrash Metal - 1,867Melodic Death Metal - 1,692Power Metal - 1,583Progressive Metal - 1,420Death Metal/Grindcore - 1,306Brutal Death Metal - 1,283
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 1 May 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)
any of you who don't mind paying for mp3s & don't have last year's Converge record yet, it's on Amazon Mp3 for $5. hyped & am off to buy it now
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:30 (fifteen years ago)
on my first listen through the standout track for me, no question, is "Wretched World," which totally just kicked my ass
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 05:25 (fifteen years ago)
My thoughts on Ozzfest 2010. I wonder who the secret 13th band is? I kinda hope it's Anthrax.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:17 (fifteen years ago)
This may be the lamest Ozzfest lineup ever. Just... lazy.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)
I was also shocked to hear that Nonpoint was worthy of being a main stage act.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)
They've clearly given up on trying to be even remotely relevant.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
maybe they were the only bands willing to pay to get on the tour
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)
I remember hearing a Nonpoint song a few years ago that I kinda liked (it was very modern rock radio tho), but I can't remember what it was.
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
Apparently it was "Bullet with a Name"
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)
It sounded better when I heard it in 2005 :/
― Mordy, Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
Nonpoint's first album is pretty decent. Not really worth bothering with anything after that, though.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
I think the big thing for me is that it really isn't worth going for any of these acts. With the exception of Ozzy and Motley Crue, who are way past their prime as live performers, everybody else tours constantly and headlines fairly small venues (I've even seen Rob Halford solo at the House of Blues), so there's no real incentive to go out to the desert for this.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)
Absolutely loving this Coffinworm album. I was a big fan of the three-track demo from last year, but this is really great.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, for me, Ozzfest is neither convenient nor enticing this year. Neither is the Mayhem tour. The only package tour I'm interested in seeing this year is Summer Slaughter.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
no finger eleven no credibility. is ozzfest playing county fairs this year?
― scott seward, Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone heard the new Fatso Jetson yet?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
Just got in from seeing Bolt Thrower/Benediction/Rotting Christ/The Rotted. Wicked gig, it got more awesome with each band - I'd always thought I liked Anaal Nathrakh more than Benediction, and I probably still do, but Benediction kicked fucking ass tonight, even though they lost a guitarist to technical problems after about 3 songs. Bolt Thrower were fucking amazing. And a dude came up to me and said hi cos I was wearing a punk t-shirt instead of a metal t-shirt which is always nice.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 1 May 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, Benediction was excellent at Neurotic Deathfest (at Roadburn venue 013 in Tilburg) too this weekend. Dave Hunt has turned into a pretty good frontman, big improvement on when I saw Anaal Nathrakh three years ago. Nick Barker on drums didn't hurt either. I'm still reeling from all the great bands I got to see the last couple of days: Bolt Thrower(!), Carcass(!!), Lock Up(!!!), Napalm Death, Pestilence, Revocation, Immolation, Origin, Rotten Sound, Human Mincer, Man Must Die, Kickback and last but not least Severe Torture, who were added at the last moment because Annotations of an Autopsy cancelled, but managed to blow just about everyone off the stage. So good to see a Dutch band hold its own amongst such a stellar international line-up (42 bands), especially because the Pestilence show was quite disappointing.
― Thijs, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
Just came across this little gem from a band that fell down the cracks of history long ago. Get ready for some headbangin':https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr0VDHe0q9o
― Siegbran, Sunday, 2 May 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
Mordy's new picks are up Mordy's Metal Listening Club Volume #3: April 26 thru May 3, 2010 - Amon Amarth, GridLink and Manowar... All ILXors and Lurkers welcome!
― Dastardly & Müttley Crüe (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 3 May 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)
Cannibal Corpse are coming back through Florida to end their U.S. tour, in an odd move. I just bought a ticket to see the last show on the US leg. first time I've ever seen an artist twice on one tour....be interesting to see how they sound in a diff venue.
― If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 3 May 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
Caught an amazing set from Zeni Geva in Barcelona last weekend. Now I'm off to Oslo for Thrones/OvO/Nadja and (believe it or not) lunch with Geir!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)
That should be something!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
any more opinions on the new Deftones? considering getting it if it's really really good
― ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)
xxp this is an ILX first right???
― Charged TBH (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)
Deftones are playing a record release show tonight in Dallas; it'll be streaming online here starting at 8PM EST/5PM PST.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
oh sick, thanks dude. if i'm here at 8, I'm definitely going to listen in
― ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
I'm sorta picky when it comes to metal, but the metal I like, I like a LOT. My taste runs more toward the sludgy, drony, avant-garde end of the spectrum. And the original Sabbath LPs with Ozzy... ;-)
So far this year I'm really diggin' Gnod & Wounded Kings. Also, I think Striborg put out something this year that was decent, but it may have been last year...
― ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
The new Deftones is a mighty fine record, I wasn't expecting something so upbeat. I didn't know it was out today.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
i might slip out to Best Buy later today to buy it
― ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
gotta say though, out of the two songs i've heard -- "Diamond Eyes" and "Rocket Skates" -- the former is so much better than the latter. i love Chino's voice on DE, but RS goes nowhere
― ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
I picked it up today. V nice.
― Brian C, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, the new In This Moment album, A Star-Crossed Wasteland, is awesome. It's got all the rage and aggression of the first album, with all the soaring melodies and beauty of the second album. Really a major disc. (If you haven't liked them before, I can't guarantee you'll like this one, but I know Adrien digs 'em as much as I do, so.)
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
I listened to the first track yesterday. I'd say there's more rage and aggression then on the first album. Practically ripped my head off. Really catchy, though.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 00:30 (fifteen years ago)
As I mentioned on Twitter, I only listened to the last one because of Phil's enthusing (and, come to think of it, Adrien's as well) and I really liked it. Would have totally been the type of thing I'd have dismissed out of hand, but glad I gave it a chance.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
any more opinions on the new Deftones?
Not a patch on White Pony. On first pass it sounded a bit too commercial to me - I prefer the Deftones when they're being weird. But it's not a bad record by any means; I guess I have high expectations for bands like them.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:41 (fifteen years ago)
On a related note: would I like Saturday Night Wrist? For some reason that one totally passed me by when it came out.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
This is actually the first Deftones record I've heard since White Pony, and it seems okay after one listen. It does seem like a polished and streamlined version, not as "off" as they can be.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)
It's not as weird as White Pony, but it's the best non-weird Deftones disc since Around the Fur.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)
Re: In This Moment, that's true, Phil & Jeff, I really like that band. They get a lot of flak for having a pretty singer and playing Warped and whatnot, but they're an honest, hard-working band and have learned how to write some pretty killer melodic heavy rock tunes. I wasn't too sure about the new CD's "darker" direction after they totally nailed 80s hard rock on the last one, but Phil's comments have me looking forward to hearing it. Hopefully sooner than later.
And yeah, the new Deftones is top-notch.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)
Oops, I mean Phil & Jon.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
I can't quit listening to this Skeletonwitch. seriously. I'm so glad they were on the CC tour or else I may not have heard of em.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 03:20 (fifteen years ago)
In This Moment's first album was my #4 in 2007, and their second one was my #1 in 2008, so I'm expecting the new one to take me into negative numbers...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
I have a weakness for spacey stoner metal, and right now Germany's Samsara Blues Experiment is killing me. Their album Long Distance Trip is just crunchy riff after crunchy riff. Happy surprise as I had never heard of them before my local record store manager tipped me to them yesterday. Wish that had a US label - imports hit the wallet mighty hard.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)
Okay, I still prefer In This Moment's The Dream (those 80s hooks were irresistible), but the new album is indeed pretty darn strong. Good, honest mainstream metal, and it doesn't try to be anything else. And as far as power ballads go, the last track "World in Flames" is well above average.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 6 May 2010 10:29 (fifteen years ago)
The new Melvins album is pretty bizarre. Nine tracks, the first and last of which are bizarre chants and singalongs. Plus, there's a 7:39 cover of "My Generation" that's straight jacked from Fudge Tunnel's version of "Sunshine Of Your Love." I think Osborne and Crover might be starting to get itchy feet after three albums with the same bassist (and second drummer). It's still really good, though.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 6 May 2010 12:18 (fifteen years ago)
I got the deluxe anniversary edition of Judas Priest's British Steel in the mail yesterday, and the booklet kinda pissed me off. So that's what I wrote about on MSN today.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 7 May 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)
Man, that is really weird.
― http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
Yup, especially because Holland's style of playing (dare I say... stiff?) was a pretty big factor in how Priest evolved towards a more 'mechanized' sound in the 1980s.
― Thijs, Friday, 7 May 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
http://web.orange.co.uk/images/ice/quirkies/thomas_gurrath_europics.jpg
School governors have sacked a philosophy teacher from his job after discovering his secret life - as a blood smeared death metal rock singer.
By day shaven-headed Thomas Gurrath, 29, discussed ethics with his 14-year-old pupils at his high school in Stuttgart.
But by night he calls himself The Bloodbeast and writhes around on stage covered in animal blood with topless backing singers and his band Debauchery.
The band's biggest hits include 'Kill Maim Burn' and 'Torture Pit'.
"It was very worrying to listen to his music and then realise he was teaching our children," said one parent.
Shocked officials ordered Gurrath to quit saying his performances were a form of mental instability that made him unsafe to be around children.
They ordered him to choose between teaching and his music - saying he could no longer teach anywhere in Baden-Wuerttemberg state unless he gave up the band.
But Gurrath said he was too addicted to death metal music to quit and agreed to give up his career as a teacher instead.
― that's the band Matt Pike was in (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 May 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
Germans... He would've been fine had he been in a thrash or power metal band.
― Thijs, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
The first few songs on the In This Moment album are okay, but starting with "Blazin'" (which sounds like the song My Ruin have been trying to write their entire career), this thing is an absolute monster.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 7 May 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
In case you thought I was joking, here's me and Geir in Oslo last Thursday. He was a perfect gentleman and a great tour guide.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/pointlineplane/Me_and_Geir.jpg
― Nate Carson, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
Is Geir really tall? I bet you had a great music chat with him.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)
Good pic and glad it went well! Are you going to be as nice a tour guide when I come to Portland at the end of the month?
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
how did geir like the Thrones/OvO/Nadja show?
― Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)
jj check email please
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:10 (fifteen years ago)
I'm a great Portland tour guide. Look me up. Best to book me in advance though, I get really busy!
Geir is normal height. I'm not...
And now way was I going to try to seduce him into watching Thrones, haha. That's like the antithesis of what' he's into.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
if its funk related, gotcha pfunk
― Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
I got the deluxe anniversary edition of Judas Priest's British Steel in the mail yesterday, and the booklet kinda pissed me off.
Kiss did the same thing when they re-released Creatures of the Night with Bruce Kulick on the cover. Yes, it's fine that Priest has been distancing themselves from Dave Holland and that whole controversy, but to ignore his contributions to the band is wrong. He had one of the sharpest rock backbeats you will ever hear.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
thanks jj, (also sent non ilx related email)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
THE HIGH CONFESSIONS, a newly formed band featuring Chris Connelly (MINSTRY, REVOLTING COCKS, KILLING JOKE), Steve Shelley (SONIC YOUTH), Sanford Parker (MINSK, NACHTMYSTIUM, BURIED AT SEA), and noted recording engineer Jeremy Lemos (SMOG, STEREOLAB, JIM O’ROURKE), as posted the first preview of music on the band’s MySpace page: http://www.MySpace.com/TheHighConfessions.The track, “Chlorine And Crystal”, comes from the band’s debut album Turning Lead Into Gold With The High Confessions that will be released on July 20th via Relapse Records. Turning Lead Into Gold With The High Confessions was recorded in Chicago, IL with Parker and Lemos engineering. Additional album details can be found at http://shop.relapse.com/store/product.aspx?ProductID=38891
The track, “Chlorine And Crystal”, comes from the band’s debut album Turning Lead Into Gold With The High Confessions that will be released on July 20th via Relapse Records. Turning Lead Into Gold With The High Confessions was recorded in Chicago, IL with Parker and Lemos engineering. Additional album details can be found at http://shop.relapse.com/store/product.aspx?ProductID=38891
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)
Steve Shelley (SONIC YOUTH)
O_O :-D
― ksh, Friday, 7 May 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
interesting song their on their MySpace page . . . i'll have to listen to it again. record has potential to be something, at least
― ksh, Friday, 7 May 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)
I knew that you would be interested.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)
thanks, man
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)
Most of ilx wont read this thread so feel free to start a thread about it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:32 (fifteen years ago)
I've read your blog before but am just now noticing you were editor-in-chief of Metal Edge. that's badass. used to read that when I was in high school just getting into metal!
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)
i bet you read his other mag he was in charge of too!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)
due to the major reductions in inventory the chains around here are doing, plus the closures of some FYEs, and the presence of only one indie store which tends to focus on indie rock and hardcore more than metal, I signed up for Amazon's "Prime" membership. It's $79/year, which I would normally say was pretty steep, but for someone who buys a lot of music like myself, I think I'll make what I spent back within a month -- basically you get two-day shipping for free on every order, and overnight for $3.99 per item.
So now it's essentially like, if I want an album and awnt the physical thing and not some burnt copy of it, if the indie store doesn't have it I can get it on Amazon and ship it fast. The beauty is their prices are cheaper since they do business in bulk, whereas the indies aren't. I'll still support the indie store though as I think there's much value in keeping it alive - but probably won't use them for metal.
So you all need to give me an assload of death metal albums from 2009-2010 (brutal death) to buy as I'm trying to catch up. I already have the latest Festered and Abscess.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)
and the latest Nile and Immolation (which I bought at their show)
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)
Get Vaseleth, darnit. There's a death metal record right there.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
added to list. oh this could be dangerous. if I'm homeless next year, this threadi s why.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
Stuff in my hard drive right now that you might like: Coffinworm, When All Become None; Die, Rise of the Rotten; Fatalist, The Depths of Inhumanity; Hooded Menace, Never Cross the Dead; Lost Soul, Immerse in Infinity; Order of Ennead, An Examination of Being; Unleashed, As Yggdrasil Trembles.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:38 (fifteen years ago)
Coffinworm is great, more doom/death ,but that suits me since i dont care for most death metal. Hooded Menace is great too, but I thought that was more sludgy. Anyway both are on Profoundlore who are one of the best metal labels around just now. You might want to check out the latest Cobalt (BM) and my mates who like DM would say check out Portal.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 May 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
who are also on profoundlore
thanks guys! think that'll do me for a while!
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 8 May 2010 03:19 (fifteen years ago)
from 2008 but if you haven't heard it yet, I'd throw a big recommendation in for decrepit birth diminishing between worlds. I'm not much of a tech-death guy but this album is killer. I still listen to it all the time.
― original bgm, Saturday, 8 May 2010 03:35 (fifteen years ago)
"Last Night: Metallica Bassist Jason Newsted's First Art Exhibit"
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2010/05/jason_newsted.php
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
man, i've always thought Newstead was great, but i just read that and it makes me like him even more
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
love the quote at the end from his my mom.
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
from his my mom.
Woah! Alan "N," makes sense now!!
― ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
looooooooooooooool
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:16 (fifteen years ago)
I couldn't hide this secret any longer since it's mother's day and all
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
I've got some insider gossip for you guys too: metallica are a bunch of assholes
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, i love Metallica
― ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
http://images.philsfiles.info/napster-lars.jpg
sorry to be the bearer of bad news :-(
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:21 (fifteen years ago)
hahaha, it's alright. still love 'em
― ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
Just heard the new Nevermore. Mmm. "Emptiness Unobstructed" goes straight into my best-songs-of-the-year candidate list.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 10 May 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
Really in love w/ the opening track on the new Ludicra. I love how the singer shifts from black metal "screaming" to regular singing.
― ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/twitocalypse-heavy-metal/
― ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
According to an e-mail we received this morning, the Twitter bug and ensuing 0 followers/0 following fiasco was inadvertently started by a Turkish fan of heavy metal band Accept. When this young man tweeted “Accept pwnz,” he found that the user @pwnz was suddenly following him.
Tee-hee. Surprise attack, coming from the back.
― Thijs, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)
Really enjoying that new Hour of 13 album btw, Dio-era Sabbath with Ozzy vocals and some nice Lifesonesque riffage, excellent stuff.
― Thijs, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, the last album was solid and slept-on, imo. excited for the new one.
― original bgm, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
It tops the debut easily. Too bad I haven't been able to check Adrien's Decibel piece on them yet, still haven't received the previous issue :(
― Thijs, Monday, 10 May 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I was amazed at how strong the Hour of 13 album turned out to be.
On a different note, this is too awesome for words. Trve Kvlt Svrf: http://heavyrocks.blogg.no/1273518217_charlie_varg_vikernes.html
― A. Begrand, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)
Dang, I wanted to do a surf 7" of Carcass covers.
― Sweet Sister Raistlin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago)
picked up Monstrosity's "Spiritual Apocalypse". good stuff, different than I was expecting. kinda reminds me of Behemoth with the "blackened" style stripped out and more traditional death vocals.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:44 (fifteen years ago)
Has anyone else heard the new Castevet album? More Brooklyn black metal, but this one has some very cool dips into Fugazi-style hardcore.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:51 (fifteen years ago)
wow, that's an interesting mix.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)
Got it in the mail but haven't heard it yet; was too busy ranting about Limp Bizkit.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 13 May 2010 03:05 (fifteen years ago)
I want to hear the Castevet but theres an indie castevet going about too, confusing. Everytime i see the thread on vlv i think its about the new york bm band and its not.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
More Brooklyn black metal, but this one has some very cool dips into Fugazi-style hardcore.
this is trollbait but I see through this stuff so y'all can quit trying to get me to be a hater. my hater days are over! people can play whatever kind of music they want and it's all ok by me, I'll just be over here with a Grave Miasma album.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)
so i guess there's a gorguts/krallice/portal/bloody panda show happening down the street from me in a couple weeks? i want to go but it also sounds incredibly exhausting.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
Thats my kind of exhausting!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, i should go to that show
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
wow, it's cheap
seeing & really being able to enjoy four bands in a row is difficult for me but that's one hell of a bill. a couple of days ago I revisited gorguts' underrated imo from wisdom to hate -- what a fucking incredible band. portal will be super interesting and bloody panda great too.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
dunno, $10 can buy me a nice hamburger & fries
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
or, like, a huge salad at Bertucci's
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
umm, ok don't go
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 13 May 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
i was kidding, i think i might :-)
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
Has anyone heard the new Howl record on Relapse? Saw it for $8.99 yesterday, didn't know anything about it.
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)
cmon, you have to go see gorguts!!
― original bgm, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:21 (fifteen years ago)
Recently downloaded the beep-less promo from Relapse, but I haven't given it a spin yet. Heard encouraging things though. I'll update after I listen.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
The new Howl's pretty decent. The expected early Mastodon/early HoF influences are there (more bludgeoningly heavy than refined), but there's a little Melvins influence in there as well.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
that sounds pretty good
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
mmm, i should pick it up! thanks A
― my baby's got the bans (ksh), Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the howl record is decent. kinda samey, but i've only listened to it twice so far.
that melvins album is really weird, but really freaking good too. some of their older stuff just puts me to sleep because it sounds way too plodding, but this album is great. the first song had me laughing quite a bit.
so i've just read a month's worth of this thread and have finally caught up. bands i need to act soon on are: october file, cathedral, ludicra, triptykon, armored saint, vasaeleth, immolation, nachtmystium.
i'm already loving shining, daughters, DEP, rotting christ & deftones.
am i missing anything?
― borntohula, Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)
I think the Ihsahn record is well worth hearing, one of my favorites of the year (just behind Ludicra and maybe Triptykon).
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 May 2010 18:49 (fifteen years ago)
i gave it a shot but was turned off by how clean some of it sounded. i'll give it a few more listens.
has anyone heard monolith by in memoriam? i keep hearing good things about it, and it has placed rather high on the RYM charts. i don't base all of my musical choices by their charts, but frequent the site to see if i'm missing out on anything.
― borntohula, Thursday, 13 May 2010 19:16 (fifteen years ago)
Cannibal Corpse closing their US leg tonight, and I will be there for the second time. should be fun. I pulled out the Bleeding again it's surprisingly better than I remembered it.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 15 May 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
Joey Belladonna is back in Anthrax, apparently. Until tomorrow, when they announce that John Bush is back once more.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
Actually, I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable Neil Turbin reunion.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
I totally love the Belladonna era of Anthrax, but he was such a unique vocalist. Like his voice was poppy, but not in the way you typically associate with metal (ie, power metal vocalists). I thought he best fit on stuff like Spreading the Disease, although at times he sounded out of place with the more aggressive stuff on Among the Living (which mind you is still awesome).
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)
he was awful
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
I'm partial to Belladonna as well, I come from that era. Bush never seemed right, he was always "the dude from Armored Saint" in my mind. Of course that's sort of because he was given some pretty mediocre new material to sing on.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 16 May 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
I've only seen Anthrax once (on the tour they did in 1990 with Public Enemy, Primus and Young Black Teenagers) and Belladonna was still in the band, but I think he left right after that. I thought his stage presence was all wrong for them, even if his voice occasionally worked. (I can still take some cuts from Persistence of Time, but every other Belladonna-era album has one or two very low peaks and a bunch of Marianas-trench-deep valleys)
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 16 May 2010 03:03 (fifteen years ago)
aerosmith noting that Torche just got robbed on this thread: Torche
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 03:11 (fifteen years ago)
RIP Ronnie James :(
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 16 May 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)
"Don't believe the rumors, Ronnie is still hanging in there!!!" Hugs, Wendy Dio
http://twitter.com/OfficialRJDio
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 16 May 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)
Phew!
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:12 (fifteen years ago)
Wow I shed a real tear when I found out he's still among the living.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:19 (fifteen years ago)
Still, he is obviously not doing well :( Spinning Rising right now.
― Thijs, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:28 (fifteen years ago)
I don't want to write an obit piece. But it looks like I should be getting ready to.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:33 (fifteen years ago)
Same here. This is so terrible, "A Light in the Black" is almost too much to take right now.
― Thijs, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)
Have to say, that was a lousy and irresponsible move by the otherwise reputable Metal Insider blog to break the story rumour. They claimed to have confirmation, but they didn't say who their source was, and they were proven wrong.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)
WHAT? What's wrong with Dio?
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 16 May 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
i mean I know he's old and all but like srsly I might get real depressed if he dies too :/. we already lost Peter Steele this year!
he has been fighting cancer for at least a year iirc; yesterday a rumor was spreading that he had died.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 16 May 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
It's official now, and our hearts can go back to being broken for real this time.
http://www.facebook.com/OfficialRonnieJamesDio
Today my heart is broken, Ronnie passed away at 7:45am 16th May.Many, many friends and family were able to say their private good-byesbefore he peacefully passed away. Ronnie knew how much hewas loved by all. We so appreciate the love and support that you haveall given us. Please give us a few days of privacy to deal... with thisterrible loss. Please know he loved you all and his music will live on forever. Wendy
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
rip ronnie james dio
Oh fuck. RIP, Ronnie James Dio. /m\ (sad horns)
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
man, me and a couple buddies were just talking about this friday night. how dio was one of the most positive guys out there and if anyone could beat this, it might be him.
fuck.
RIP. :-(
― original bgm, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
You better pick a Dio related work for the listening group this week Alan.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, no doubt.
this sucks.
― original bgm, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
just one of the best performers I've ever seen too. guy was great til the very end.
― original bgm, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
I was worried when he cancelled the Heaven & Hell tour for the summer, but still...
FU, cancer!
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
I think this deserves its own thread
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
go for it imo
― ksh, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
Goddammit. :( One of the most golden voices in metal. Holy Diver is a classic. God I mean I know metalheads aren't exactly immune to dying, but this was a legend...man. Not just some passerby.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 16 May 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
This seriously sucks and is not acceptable AT ALL.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 16 May 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
Please tell me this doesn't come in threes. Peter Steele and Dio and it's not even June :/
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 16 May 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)
There is no :-( big enough for this. Ronnie James Dio was one of my all-time favorite performers, and always has been. Last in Line was one of the first true metal records I got, and I must have listened to it dozens of times. I met the man once, at an after party, and he was basically the nicest guy ever. He even gave me a hug. Rest in peace. This is a true tragedy.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
sorry to break from Dio, but I got the Warbeast album today. It's remarkable in how ignoring the quality of songwriting, sonically this sounds like it was recorded in 1991. But the songs? Well, so far I'm digging them, although I don't know how I'd rate it with thrash classics like Insult to Injury or Handle with Care, but I like the vocalist and the riffing.
― Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
Sitting here on my second spin through the Dio anthology today. Damn. :(
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 May 2010 03:38 (fifteen years ago)
^^^ the Sabbath comp or the Dio solo + Sabbath comp?
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
That Dio compilation Rhino put out, Stand Up and Shout, is a really great overview. Disc 1 is Elf, Rainbow and Sabbath; Disc 2 is solo stuff, and there's only four tracks in common between it and the Sabbath comp The Dio Years, so really, you need both.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
^^^ and on eMusic it only costs 12 credits, as if it were a single album. Am gonna DL it when my credits refresh seeing as Dio Years is one of my most played and enjoyed discs of the last few years.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 17 May 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)
saw this band this weekend in a boxcar in weed, ca. fucking amazing live show: http://www.myspace.com/thespeedofdarkness
― The Portrait of a Lady of BJs (the table is the table), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
new Harvey Milk out tomorrow!
― ksh, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
There's a bleak album.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)
I listened to Holy Diver again this morning. Yep, "Rainbow in the Dark" is still one of the greatest songs of all time.
Currently, though, I'm becoming fascinated by this Spanish band Kathaarsys. Only discovered them because I was investigating different spellings of "catharsis" among metal bands, but they're really great. Kind of progressive black death, with even little bits of clean singing and acoustic-guitar playing. The 2007 album Verses in Vain is the one I'm playing now, haven't heard the other three yet.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Am I the only person who doesn't like "Rainbow in the Dark"? Good, hooky riff by Campbell, but that synth line is horrendous.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)
You aren't the only one. I don't hate it, but it never struck me as one of his better tunes.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
Those of you who fuck with polls: the 2005-2009 Poll nominations thread is sorely, sorely lacking in metal nominations thus far. Ppl can make up to 25 noms each, and there ain't practically nothin' there besides Mastodon and Baroness. I am gonna do what I can to remedy this but I also have to single-handedly address the film scores and classical music of 05-09.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
i wait until i see whats nominated before posting mine, but i warn you, metal folks rarely vote in these things and the rest of ilx just doesnt vote metal in these polls. Glenn & I were considering doing a 00s metal poll at some point.Though I fancied doing a 70s, then 80s,90s, 00s series of polls. So perhaps you guys can persuade glenn to help out? cuz if he agrees to tally it all up id be happy to help run it. I think going through the decades would be better than doing just a 00s poll like everyone did last year.
So who is up for a series of metal decades polls?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah but I like putting awesome metal albums in amongst awesome film scores, world-psych, avant-garde classical, synthpop, etc.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
i'll nominate some metal albums, jon.
― borntohula, Monday, 17 May 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
A poll for a half decade? Who the hell cares? Wake me up when you get to the poll for the best albums with reddish covers that were released in April of years ending in 3...
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 17 May 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)
its so radiohead wont win it, glenn.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 17 May 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
I wish more Radiohead fans could embrace Enslaved and Opeth.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 17 May 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
I wish more Radiohead fans would embrace death.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 May 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)
it's pretty weird that enslaved isn't more popular among both radiohead fans & indie people - to me they're really one of the most consistently good, creative, interesting, distinctive bands in metal, I would think the same people who come to metal via Isis or other prog-ish metal bands would go ape for enslaved. and the acoustic version of return to yggdrasil they did for radio, God, that thing is just the raddest.
A poll for a half decade? Who the hell cares?
feel obligated, w/o rancor or anything, to otm this - when we're polling random intervals of years, it means we maybe need to see somebody about or CPSS (Compulsive Poll Starting Syndrome)
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 17 May 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)
the acoustic version of return to yggdrasil they did for radio, God, that thing is just the raddest.
Okay, I have to hear that now.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 17 May 2010 23:39 (fifteen years ago)
Like i said, the reason they all chose a half decade was precisely to stop the established canon of radiohead, the strokes etc winning an ilx poll. Even i said it was silly and i do like polls.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
having a poll like that just to stop certain albums from winning just seems pointless. It stops lesser known albums from that period getting recognition just because they came out in the same years as radiohead and the strokes.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)
Kathaarsys, man. This band is seriously great. Why have I never heard of them? Is it just me?
They're having a stupid poll so Radiohead won't win it? People can't read past #1? That's too idiotic for me to even bother checking the thread-list to find out if you guys are making it up.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
its not just radiohead, its because the early part of the decades canon is set so they want to poll the half that isnt so predictable or something
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:23 (fifteen years ago)
I only have Ruun and Vertebrae, but Enslaved are fucking awesome (and I'm gonna nominate Vertebrae in that poll you guys hate).
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
Been gone all day, but yes, I was referring to Stand Up and Shout that I had on repeat.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Ruun and Vertebrae are fantastic. But you owe it to yourself to buy Below the Lights asap. It's their greatest work and will appeal to anyone who likes that latest two. It's much like them, only less slick, and with better drumming.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:07 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, definitely check that one out. I love "The Dead Stare" in particular.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah have been deliberating btw that and Isa to get next. I will follow yr advice.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:18 (fifteen years ago)
Isa has great songs, but problems with the drum production. I asked Grutle in an interview and he confided that they had to replace all the drum tracks with triggered sounds because of problems during tracking. Also, it was the debut of the new drummer whilst Below the Lights is the swansong with Dirge Rep.
You will not be disappointed. And once you have that one, get Mardraum and Monumension, the two predecessors. They really form a perfect trilogy in my mind.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)
I've only gotten through the first track from the new Zoroaster album, but that song ("DNR") is phenomenal, the best thing they've ever done. Yet another Sanford Parker record (the dude is en fuego this year), and he's really got the doomy space rock thing going on this tune.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 05:21 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously, keep working your way backwards, like everyone's saying. You've got untold awesomeness in your future.
― a more happy, spress-free life (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 05:23 (fifteen years ago)
isis calls it a day.
― drone/a/sore, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:00 (fifteen years ago)
Wow. Thanks for passing along the news.
― ksh, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:16 (fifteen years ago)
not shocking but i think they had one more good one in 'em based on how good wavering radiant was. bands don't really "break up" anymore unless there are mad personal issues (which isn't the case here) but this is certainly a fair time to take a break. guess i'll check tickets for those boston shows in june.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:26 (fifteen years ago)
two nights in a row at the Paradise with the Melvins. gonna try to go i think
― ksh, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:45 (fifteen years ago)
gonna try and catch the montreal show now. i really wanted to go because of cave in, but now i have to go. too bad the fucking website for buying tix is DOWN. arg.
wavering radiant was a good note to end on. like they said, i'm glad they didn't force it. i think what's most disappointing about this whole thing is that none of the members really have any satisfying side projects outside of isis.
― borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 04:48 (fifteen years ago)
I wish they'd broken up after Oceanic. But still, a very good band and great people (in my experience).
On a separate note: Portal melted my brain tonight and made me feel all kinds of violated. If heavy and unearthly music is of interest to you, don't miss this tour. I can't say I enjoy listening to that music exactly, but I definitely respond to anything that utterly weird, impressive, and crushing.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)
The YouTube footage of Portal's show the other night is unreal. What an imposing band, I'd love to witness that.
As for Isis, I think they went out on a high note, Wavering Radiant is right up there with Oceanic if you ask me.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)
I'm gonna check out the final Isis NYC show with the Melvins on 6/18. The last time I saw Isis (on their 10th Anniversary tour, with Jesu opening up) they bored the crap out of me (so did Jesu) but I'm willing to go one more time just to see their self-declared sendoff. Plus, I wanna see the Melvins again; I saw them for the first time on the recent tour with Down and dug it, and the new record's really good.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I like isis, but they were one of the most boring bands I've ever seen live!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
(circa panopticon)
i saw then circa panopticon and they were fantastic
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
Phil I will prob also go to that one, for the Melvins. But hoping to enjoy Isis as well. I go in and out of liking them.
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)
I saw them touring panopticon and it was so boring, great band but I could not imagine why one would bother to do that live - it was just one long yawn
then mastodon came on and ripped shit up
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
i saw them in a very small room like 8 years ago and it was rad. in bigger rooms yeah they're kinda uninspiring
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)
Patton/Melvins ATP was the last time I saw them and they had the misfortune of being after Torche downstairs in Reds (the legendary show just after Montoya was kicked out that he insisted on playing which led to an... interesting... mood on stage) and up against Zu in Reds. In those comparisons they ended up feeling kind of boring.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
So... are Watain Nazis?
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
word is yes iirc
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
could be wrong tho - I had an album of theirs and I don't remember any flags goin' up! I'll look around, don't wanna wrongly think of a band as nazi who isn't
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
I know they've done shenanigans like dressing up in SS uniforms, giving the Hitler salute, and naming their first demo Fuck Your Jewish God, but they've said in interviews that they think NSBM is stupid, so I can't tell whether they're doing it for shock value/irony or because they're big Third Reich fans.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
i wish there were a little spreadsheet i could consult when i want to figure out if the metal band i like is NS or not
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)
saw isis open for tool just before they put out in the absence of truth and thought they were pretty solid. my friends, who were unfamiliar with their stuff, thought they were boring.
so i managed to get tickets to see them play with cave in in montreal. i'm pretty excited.
― borntohula, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:45 (fifteen years ago)
Repost: We played with Isis on the Celestial tour. Lineup was Soilent Green, Isis, Witch Mountain, and a little known local band called YOB.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
and naming their first demo Fuck Your Jewish God
this always struck me a bit o_O
― original bgm, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
Nazis or no, they smell terrible.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
Is it true the 30th anniversary Ozzy remasters are restoring the original rhythm tracks?!?!
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
That's what the reputable black-sabbath.com said on the weekend. It's certainly cause for rejoicing, every time I hear the retouched songs on Sirius I cringe. It sounds awful and just plain wrong.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
I've never actually heard the retouched versions, which is how I'd like it to stay.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
Probably only restored because they know that a) noone will buy the retouched ones, B) all the poor sods who have those will want to "upgrade" to the proper version therefore making the osbournes more money. It wont be because of anything else.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)
I was just logging on to mention this good news, haha.
Sharon's getting soft!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:28 (fifteen years ago)
Soft like a fox, as Herman's pointed out...
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
I have the original versions of both in my iPod, but I don't currently own them in physical form, and since these are deluxe anniversary editions I'm expecting bonus tracks and maybe even a contemporaneous live disc appended to each, so I'll be picking them up.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)
new Black Tusk streaming at Stereogum: http://stereogum.com/377291/stream-black-tusk-taste-the-sin-stereogum-premiere/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/
haven't listened yet, but i think i'll do so later
― ksh, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
Just announced today:
DAY OF HEL fest in Portland, OR @ Berbati's Pan
Friday, July 9th:Brothers of the Sonic Cloth (Tad), SubArachnoid Space, Atriarch, Galdr - 8:30pm, 21+
Saturday, July 10th:Fauna, Altar of Plagues, Velnias, SubRosa - 8:30pm, 21+
http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/sale/SaleEventDetail?dispatch=loadSelectionData&eventId=2103725
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 20 May 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
Man, kind of depressing reading all the comments on Invisible Oranges and other sites about Isis calling it quits. I realize it may just be the vocal minority, but I didn't realize there was so much hatred of them for what they inspired. I'll certainly miss them and, hey, its not Pearl Jam's fault that Puddle of Mudd is a going concern in 2010.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 May 2010 01:58 (fifteen years ago)
its not Pearl Jam's fault that Puddle of Mudd is a going concern in 2010.
yes it is
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:00 (fifteen years ago)
like an hour ago i was just listening to an acapella version of "Blurry" a friend emailed me -- band's an ongoing inside joek
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:01 (fifteen years ago)
IO encourages that kind of elitist bullshit, though. And it doesn't help that in his original post, Lee praised stuff about them that I don't like (the early EPs in particular, but also Panopticon). Lee's got "first-release/best-release" disease real bad.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:26 (fifteen years ago)
i don't know why ppl read that blog
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:29 (fifteen years ago)
The main reason I read IO is when they post unsigned band demos, they got me way into Coffinworm last year.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 May 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
wait, what's wrong w/ IO in general?
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:07 (fifteen years ago)
(still trying to seek out good metal writing -- so, i've looked at IO a bit but not much)
As Phil pointed out, it tends to be a hang-out for a vocal portion of the "tr00 metal" only/elitist crowd that do a lot more denouncing than they do championing.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)
i only have the vaguest idea of what "tr00 metal" even means -- gotta say, getting so far into indie for five years that you ignore most other music is nagl. but i'll catch up
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
i think cosmo is an awful writer who rarely has anything interesting to say, but that could just be me
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:10 (fifteen years ago)
I don't find him "awful" by any means, but I don't like how he pads out so much of his writing with snarky commentary. Like I said, it seems like he spends more time talking about what he hates rather than what he loves, a trait which drives me crazy in any critic.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
Scott over at Stereogum just said in a comment:
BTW, if any of you guys want ONLY Stereogum’s metal coverage, you can just bookmark hauntingthechapel.com.\m/
\m/
So: hauntingthechapel.com
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:15 (fifteen years ago)
i dunno, like:
I discovered Isis’ discography – the prime years, anyway, 1998 to 2004 – nearly all at once. Thus, I forget which was my first Isis record. But I vividly remember my first impressions of each one. The Mosquito Control and The Red Sea EP’s blew me away with their intensity. Celestial, SGNL>05, Oceanic, the Oceanic remixes, and Panopticon were all “interesting”. They were all different, but a line clearly ran though them. The involvement of Justin Broadrick at times didn’t hurt. In this age of MP3’s, Isis may be one of the last bands whose physical releases were events.
first a boring, super blogging "i first heard band x" sentence that no one actually cares about. then, really? those are your "vivid" impressions? intense? interesting?
then a tossed off line about broadrick that doesn't explain what he did w/the band or why it was good, then he's claiming that isis are one of the last bands where physical releases mattered? really? why?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:17 (fifteen years ago)
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― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:19 (fifteen years ago)
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btw thx for that link i really like stosuy's interviews
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:21 (fifteen years ago)
No problem dude! There's an RSS feed too: http://stereogum.com/category/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/feed/
― ksh, Thursday, 20 May 2010 03:21 (fifteen years ago)
hey guys head over to Favourite SST Release of... 1990-1996 and give saint vitus a vote
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone want to take a turn for a week curating Mordy's Metal Listening Club Volume #5: A Tribute To Ronnie James Dio (1942-2010) - Rainbow , Black Sabbath & DIO ? please post there and you can be pencilled in. If you just want to discuss the albums then you can join in to. all welcome even if you dont want to join in every week.
Would love to see skot and j0hn d,jeff t and adrien, chuck etc to pick a week. Seigbran is in! So please pop over.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:21 (fifteen years ago)
first a boring, super blogging "i first heard band x" sentence that no one actually cares about.
dude this is nitpicking & suggests a super-bad case of hater syndrome imo. note that I am not exactly anti-hater when it comes to keeping the poseurs out but you are sorta straining for the gnat here. framing when and how you first heard a band is a 100% decent way to start a piece - especially when he's pointing out that he came to the discography all at once, which is worth knowing about somebody's opinion: did you start with Altars of Madness, or Gateways, or, like this dude with Isis, did you probably grab a torrent of the whole catalog?
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)
like, ok, but he doesn't use it to say anything interesting! his point is to the effect of "so i can't remember what i heard first, but i liked some of the early stuff and one thing from the later stuff"--and this is supposed to be a sendoff post for a band he actually likes!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:41 (fifteen years ago)
but yes i was nitpicking
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)
does picking involve anything besides saying what the records are? my sense has been I don't want to participate unless I can really get involved & in deep, and I kinda can't, things are busy around here
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
It can be whatever you want it to be.Some post their thoughts on albums, what they mean to them, try to introduce classics to newbies and obscure classics to diehards that kind of thing. Whatever you choose. The more others do in-depth discussion the more will join in. Plus you can join in whenever you like if you are busy, all albums can still be discussed further down the line if you have been busy or just have something to say.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
i'd be into it.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
discussion promotes other discussion sort of thing. so the more who joins the better. Its running quite well just now. Its also fun, if you enjoy good discussion then its for you.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I've been pretty into the listening club. I dig it. but unfortunately, I haven't had the time to listen to as many of the picks as I would have liked.
― original bgm, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)
you can catch up at any time
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
I agree with destroyer re Lee's Isis blurb.
first a boring, super blogging "i first heard band x" sentence that no one actually cares about. then, really? those are your "vivid" impressions? intense? interesting? then a tossed off line about broadrick that doesn't explain what he did w/the band or why it was good, then he's claiming that isis are one of the last bands where physical releases mattered? really? why?
Each sentence in Lee's little thing should have been the topic sentence for a paragraph. That would have been an interesting piece worth reading, and would have conveyed actual information to the reader. What we get, though, reads like he wrote it during a commercial break while watching TV.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
I don't give a crap about Isis, and I didn't think that was one of Cosmo's better pieces, but I've found a bunch of good stuff through Invisible Oranges.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 21 May 2010 02:19 (fifteen years ago)
tonight: baroness & mastodon! haven't seen either one before. ready to rock.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 May 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
Baroness are super fun live because they HAVE so much fun live. Just seems like dudes really really love being up there playing their asses off.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Friday, 21 May 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
Just a word of warning: I love mastodon, and I've seen them do great shows before, but they seem to be phoning in this tour. They were really... off when I saw them.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 21 May 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not really surprised, they've been touring non-stop since Crack the Skye came out.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 May 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)
touring non-stop usually renders a band capable of turning in a killer performance if the audience is up for it tho
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 21 May 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
I suppose but it also seems like it can wear a band down eventually.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 May 2010 17:54 (fifteen years ago)
i'm more psyched for baroness, but i imagine a good mastodon show would be awesome.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
(also v. curious what kind/size crowd this show will draw in knoxville. one of the things with metal right now is it's sort of hard to know how big the local fanbase is, and who's in it.)
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)
Baroness show at Bowery Ballroom in Manhat was super, super packed.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
Baroness were great as usual. I got the feeling that Mastodon were sick of playing Crack the Skye in its entirety, but they felt obligated to because they paid for the backdrop video for the entire album. Okay, the second part of that sentence is my theory, but the first part was observation.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
lol yes to put it mildly
they end up arguing about politics on ilx, that is how bad it gets
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
For those of you with a tolerance for Gothic Metal, I'm liking the new Lacrimas Profundere a lot more than I did anything else I've heard from them. Late Sentenced-ish, but not as poppy as HIM. Dark and elegant.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 21 May 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
i have zero
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 21 May 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
For those of you with no tolerance for Gothic Metal, I recommend avoiding the new Lacrimas Profundere.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 21 May 2010 20:30 (fifteen years ago)
― original bgm, Friday, 21 May 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
I'll try to phrase all my endorsements as warnings from now on.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 21 May 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
hey, you got me to download it (legally), and I hated their last album.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 21 May 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
ok so mastodon ROCKED. it's true i think that the second half, after the crack the skye set, was louder and harder. and i'm sort of dubious of the whole "perform the album" approach in any setting. but it's not like crack the skye was bad, it was fun. and then things really took off. baroness was great, too. rambunctious but right on it. and seeing them live helped me focus on their rhytmic fluidity, they're less afraid of groove than a lot of modern metal bands. (a friend of mine thinks this has to do with atlanta, and i suspect he's right.) anyway, it struck me that both bands have great drummers, but in very different ways.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 22 May 2010 04:40 (fifteen years ago)
Boris are touring this summer: http://blog.southernlord.com/?p=270
― ksh, Saturday, 22 May 2010 05:49 (fifteen years ago)
BRING YOUR MONEY BELT TO THE MERCH TABLE
― a more happy, spress-free life (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 22 May 2010 06:25 (fifteen years ago)
BRING YOUR DAUGHTER TO THE SLAUGHTER
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 22 May 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
Are there any doom metal bands that use sitar? Want sitar metal.
― a more happy, spress-free life (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:11 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know about doom bands doing that - it wouldn't surprise me to hear sitar on an Om album; there are a couple of death metal bands using older traditional instruments, but usually as mood/texture enhancers, or in interludes rather than within the song. Melechesh and Nile. Also Karl S. from Nile's side project is sort of droney-ambient "middle eastern" style stuff, but it's not metal.
― the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos (J0hn D.), Sunday, 23 May 2010 10:20 (fifteen years ago)
I think there's a sitar in "Funeral of Dreams" on the new Cathedral. And yes, definitely OM.
― Thijs, Sunday, 23 May 2010 10:36 (fifteen years ago)
Nebula albums always had a track or 2 with sitar.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 23 May 2010 11:55 (fifteen years ago)
can anyone give me a really quick cliffs notes to this thread, just the topline, best few albums so far?
I only have
HOFBlack TuskHarvey MilkBlack BreathCoffinworm
feeling really behind right now
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
but it's not like the HOF album doesn't totally fucking rule so it's cool
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
LudicraHowling WindHooded MenaceAlcestAmeseoursBlood Of the Black owl
all purchased by me in the past month or so.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 May 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)
\ /
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
actually the shop was sold out of the howling wind cd (that and hooded menace/coffinworm came out 2 weeks after i placed a profoundlore order, but i got those 2 in Glasgow) so im going to order the howling wind in the next day or 2, i can afford 1 more cd for the next month after ordering the Goatsnake reissue vinyls. But thats me til july :(
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 May 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)
I nearly bought the Mono 3xLP but it was £30 and I realised I could get 5 cds for that saving me a big Profoundlore order with risk of customs hitting me with vat.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 May 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
Bong are big on the Sitar...actually I say Sitar, but is it really that or just some other Indian instrument? 'Cos the couple of times I've seen them it's not looked like what I think of as a Sitar, despite that being mentioned in reviews of the records.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 24 May 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)
Editing a giant (6000 words plus) feature on Eyehategod for the second issue of Burning Ambulance...stay tuned...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 24 May 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
There's some (what sounds like a Coral Electric) sitar on some Amorphis stuff... hafta do some listening to remember which...
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Monday, 24 May 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
man I'm listening to The Seven Fat Years Are Over by Blind to Faith and loving it. A lot. Pretty sure that was a homophobic slur in the second song but it's hard to really say 'cause the dude doesn't really enunciate so good. But this is some quality sludge I gotta say.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 24 May 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
ok I take it back I found a lyric sheet, he's saying "begging" - the lyrics are kinda decent crust-core doom
this record kicks ass - I guess it came out last year - got it for free download at holy terror's website: http://www.holyterror.com/downloads/
good stuff!!!
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 24 May 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
Facebook grapevine says Paul from Slipknot is dead. True or false?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
I've seen at least a dozen reports, so I'm gonna say yeah. Sorry to hear it. I interviewed him once; like every member of Slipknot I've met (about half of 'em), he was a nice, soft-spoken Iowa farmboy.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
Seems to be true. That makes 3 in a row.
http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/05/24/slipknot-bassist-paul-gray-found-dead/
― Nate Carson, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
rip bassist from slipknot
― call all destroyer, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
He's the one that played bass in unida briefly to help john garcia out, he seemed to be the guy in slipnot who had good taste in music
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
man, by all reports, the dudes in Slipknot are solid dudes who appreciate & love their fans. I also think that they are wrongly hated on for being popular with the "wrong" sort of people - that album of theirs with the goat on the front from 2005-ish I think? was quality. I worked with a lot of kids to whom Slipknot really meant a lot. sorry that this guy is gone.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 24 May 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
Didn't we decide a while back that Slipknot made the heaviest multi-platinum recording ever?
I'm not a fan but I think they are far more legit that others in their scene.
I wonder if his replacement will be the same character or if they'll come up with a new persona?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 24 May 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
anyone else go to wolves in the throne room in camden? to me they are ok on record, but live they killed.
― squirrelbait, Monday, 24 May 2010 23:53 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, that's fucked up -- Subliminal Verses is my only real exposure to the band, but it was one of those "thanks for being there when things are difficult" records for me in high school tbh
― ksh, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)
was listening to bits & pieces of it not too long ago, and i still really like some of it
― ksh, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
I remember seeing them in '99; they were the first band on an all-Roadrunner bill co-headlined by Coal Chamber and Machine Head. Their first album was either just barely out or coming out in a couple of weeks; they came onstage and blasted through the first six songs from the debut, and that was it, nobody else on that bill had a chance.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
You know? Fuck Hipster Runoff. Not to play captain save-a-Slipknot, but this is pretty tasteless and uncalled for. But of course I'm sure my reaction is exactly what carles or whoever wanted.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:34 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, capitalizing on someone's death for pageviews is pretty fuckin shameless
― ksh, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
i don't really think i'll be visiting that site much anymore
― ksh, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, reading hipster runoff pretty much makes me want to kill myself
― original bgm, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:40 (fifteen years ago)
Me too, the only reason I saw that is it was linked on Twitter.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
Ppl whose writing/discourse uses the word 'hipster' all the time are afflicted with a weird soul-rot.
― Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
hah, truth bomb
― original bgm, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
Slipknot's biggest problem is CD length. Like, they could probably knock out some pretty tight, vicious under-40 minute albums, but they have 80 minutes to play with, which leads to tons of filler. Heck, after four albums I'm not sure they have 80 minutes of great material, but their inevitable greatest hits record will be pretty killer.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)
Anyway, RIP Paul Gray.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:14 (fifteen years ago)
Not a fan, but I believe I have repped for "Duality" somewhere. RIP.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:26 (fifteen years ago)
Right up until their last album Slipknot had put together a very strong series of albums. That debut really took me aback in 99.
Terrible news about their bass player.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 04:40 (fifteen years ago)
Thurston Moore the next member of Twilight? Blake Judd says it's in the works.
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/125345-forever-meddling-an-interview-with-blake-judd
(shameless plug, sorry)
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)
Cool interview; I like the Twilight album, haven't heard the Nachtmystium yet. Btw I thought Tony Laureano did the drums on Assassins? But I agree, Wrest is a fine drummer with a very solid downbeat in his blasting, a bit like Dave Grave from Repulsion actually. I was pretty impressed with Nachtmystium's show at Roadburn, and I'm not really a big fan. Judd kicked some guys out of the band right before Roadburn, didn't he? They played with Astrosoniq's guitar player as a last moment replacementand a drummer who looked a *lot* like Wrest, but probably was someone else.
― Thijs, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)
You're right about Laureano, Simmons was their live drummer for a spell. Thanks for that.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)
That's good to hear, I'm seeing them on Saturday in Utrecht.
I got the feeling that Mastodon were sick of playing Crack the Skye in its entirety
Mastodon just cancelled their European tour, Bill Kelliher has pancreatitis.
― Thijs, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)
I call them indie rock people, that’s a very fucking unfair generalization of a dude with short hair, jeans and a t-shirt that looks like he might have a day job.
lawl Blake Judd should post on ILX
― taqsim for Gaffney (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 09:06 (fifteen years ago)
new Black Tusk is out today, iirc. planning on heading down to the record store momentarily
― ksh, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
Too bad about the Slipknot guy. The couple times Ive seen them, they fucking brought it live.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
Greetings, rolling metal thread friends. I know some of you, like me, occasionally enjoy a slab of sludge-thick, slug-slow doom metal that seems to rise from some black pit of magma in a hidden crevice somewhere in a far region of the earth. Well, recently, during my ongoing-but-I-promise-the-next-thing-I-buy-will-be-the-last-for-a-while metal CDs-and-LPs spending spree, I took a chance on a band from Hong Kong called Hyponic - the album's from 2005 and is called The Noise of Time. If crushing downtempo doom is your thing, I urge you to see out this record as soon as possible. I am not really Mr. Doom Dude but I can dig it from time to time - I like Moss, love Cathedral of course but that's a little different - this is more in the slow-that-shit-way-down/roar-like-an-ogre style. But God damn is this doom done right in my opinion. The one thing is, the drums aren't really as huge as you'd normally expect doomy drums to be - but maybe that's why this record is standing out for me so much; the atmosphere is largely a product of the guitars. But it's not that the drums sound bad - just that they're not prioritized the same way as on lots of other "funereal doom" style stuff.
This album is really something else, anyway, and I recommend it.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)
That sounds great u.a.a.i.h.l. - right up my alley. If it's as good as prior recommendations on your part (Wetnurse rules!) I'll be very happy.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)
OK Smithy I'll check it out too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:58 (fifteen years ago)
is it trad doom vocals or death/doom stuff? Im guessing the latter?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
Great interview with Blake, Adrien! That was a real treat to read.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
YOB's set from Roadburn is streaming now: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/43519001#ondemand.43519001
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, this Hyponic album is excellent. I'm not sure I actually know what "trad doom vocals" are, but this has breathy, guttural moaning. The closest reference-point for me is Evoken, but this is slower and even darker than that.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
i guess trad vocals are actual singing, like saint vitus, not gutteral howls from the pits of hell.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
Not that im averse to gutteral howls as long as its not death metal :)
Moans, not howls. Howls would be if they were trying to get out of Hell...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
you guys
the 70,000 tons of metal cruise
miami - cozumel - miami
amon amarth, epica, trouble, moonspell, obituary, testament, exodus, sodom
among others
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:18 (fifteen years ago)
just bought a ticket O_O
― ksh, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)
will be going to purchase a pair of sunglasses tomorrow A.M.
i just want to hear songs that contain truth about life
― ksh, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)
^ Try Blind Guardian?
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 03:40 (fifteen years ago)
That's a link to some sort of Amy Grant article, Smithy.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:03 (fifteen years ago)
If I went on that cruise I'd actually be most geeked about seeing Raven.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:12 (fifteen years ago)
That's a link to some sort of Amy Grant article, Smithy.― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.)
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.)
thought the whole thing was a solid aerosmith joek b/c of the AG link, but Google tells me such a cruise exists, leading me to doubt said post's status as a joek
― ksh, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:30 (fifteen years ago)
http://doublecrosswebzine.blogspot.com/2010/05/james-hetfield-of-metallica-on-straight.html
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)
ooooooo sweet amber
― ksh, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:27 (fifteen years ago)
lol oops
that's the actual link
we should all go on that damn cruise imo
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, man. Very seriously considering that.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
Aren't all the $666 cabins sold out? You got $3000 for an ILX Metal Thread FAP?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
*Suite
lol this totally seems like something where they came up with the name before coming up with the event
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:58 (fifteen years ago)
yeah me too. epica/amon amarth/moonspell/obituary...I mean come on. this is going to slay. to be honest, I can't see myself having the money to spare, let alone the time, but music cruises for all the lols they tend to generate are actually a whole lot of fun.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.quadorb.net/dunajam/index.htm
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
do you think they'd let me tie a one-person homemade raft-with-a-cabin-on-top to the back of the boat and still participate in everything for a heavily discounted ticket price?
― ksh, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
this is totally awesome. bow down and pander to me, capitalists!
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
i'm not going to do this metal cruise because the thought makes me kind of nauseated, but still.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
Watain fans on last.fm not impressed with new album http://www.last.fm/music/Watain
Vintyr666 wrote:3 hours ago Lawless Darkness is an absolute snooze-fest, absolutely nothing stands out, it's over produced and souless. It's obvious the album was written to be played infront of an audience of low IQ metal fans. Shouldn't expect any less from a band who release a special edition of their album inside a Harry Potter book along with 100 different shirt designs, I guess. # qattle wrote:13 hours ago Wow, they are just getting worse and worse. The new album is so soft they sound like a hard rock band or something at times. I am quite disappointed. View Profile | Leave qattle a shout# kryptopheleous wrote:yesterday evening Nowhere near as expected, thier worst and totally worthless work imo. Daniel-Gray wrote:5 hours ago They are turning mainstream, they have soo much merch and soo many photos, But fuck it, They are still a brilliant band. View Profile | Leave Daniel-Gray a shout
Lawless Darkness is an absolute snooze-fest, absolutely nothing stands out, it's over produced and souless. It's obvious the album was written to be played infront of an audience of low IQ metal fans. Shouldn't expect any less from a band who release a special edition of their album inside a Harry Potter book along with 100 different shirt designs, I guess.
# qattle wrote:13 hours ago
Wow, they are just getting worse and worse. The new album is so soft they sound like a hard rock band or something at times. I am quite disappointed.
View Profile | Leave qattle a shout# kryptopheleous wrote:yesterday evening
Nowhere near as expected, thier worst and totally worthless work imo.
Daniel-Gray wrote:5 hours ago
They are turning mainstream, they have soo much merch and soo many photos, But fuck it, They are still a brilliant band.
View Profile | Leave Daniel-Gray a shout
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
*rolls eyes*
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
"soo many photos"
I love how this is now how tr00 bands are distinguished from the false ones.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
Black metal kids with their heads up their asses have a pretty interesting idea of what "mainstream" is.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not sure these guys are kids, they're older than you!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)
Well, they sound like kids.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)
that's tr00 keep my metal pure elitists for you
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
Those people are (obviously) dumb asses. Metal's easy miscegenation with other genres is what's kept it alive and vital for all these years. Some of the hybrids have been... less successful than others, but genres that keep their sound "pure" tend to either go away, become boring, or fade into an extreme niche.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
Basically what I'm trying to say is that pirate metal is awesome.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)
just wait til hipsters adopt it ironically and see what you think then.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
these people maybe are idiots but if so it's not because they hate the new watain, it's because they rated watain in the first place lol
j/k I love everybody but watain is mad boring you guys
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)
^truth
― richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)
I'd never heard a Watain album before, I liked some of it. The album got 5/5 in Zero Tolerance and 10/10 in Terrorizer,so I figured I had to hear what the fuss was about. (of course those tr00 guys think those magazines are "mainstream" and Decibel is a disgusting fashion bible for hipster scum)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
http://v2.ztmag.com/current.html should have been the link.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
the thing about the troo-troo dudes is this. if you miss out on everything they hate, for sure you're going to miss some decent stuff. but generally speaking if you only listened to the stuff they respect, you will be getting a diet of 100% awesome metal. I think there is something to that level of purity, just aesthetically. I'm not of their numbers, I listen to all manner of stuff & often am most interested in failed projects, weird off-kilter stuff that never really gelled, also-rans, etc., but I can kind of see these dudes' position, which is "anything that doesn't rule is garbage."
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
I dunno about that, sometimes they like something because it sounds exactly like they did 10 years ago. Who wants rehashed stuff over & over. Smithy I thought you would prefer the Darkthrone way of doing things.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
they rarely if ever rep hard for anything that's not great. they'll say "it's ok" about template-adhering things but I'll take a troo-dude's list of all-timers over anybody else's - it is bound to be chock full of albums that don't have a weak track on 'em. Herman I'd guess you would have a chip on your shoulders about these guys because like they wish you were not listening to the stuff they like and are vocal about it and that's the sort of thing that really sticks in yr craw n'est-pas
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
"anything that doesn't rule is garbage." isn't their stance. The quality of the music doesn't even come into it most of the time. It's more a case of "only 500 people are into these guys and they dont do interviews and they hate the mainstream". Nothing to do with the quality of music, its hardly ever mentioned, they always talk about everything but the music!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)
I dont have a chip on my shoulder though. I dont really care what they think, its just fun to talk about on the internet. I couldnt care less if they approve of me listening or not, im pretty sure that would be the same case for any other genre of music "oh he likes *insert genre* hes not one of us" I never worried about that shit when i was younger and at 37 I certainly dont now! I do like to slag off hipsters into the xx though, that is true :)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)
none of this is true
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)
like "they're only into it 'cause it's obscure," c'mon dude, that is always a bullshit accusation to level - you can't prove it at all, it's just a way of dismissing somebody's opinion
this is the last I'll say about it I got other shit to do but the troo dudes tend to have superlative taste in my experience whereas people without those somewhat ridiculous self-imposed boundaries end up repping for really dull watered-down prog trash so gimme a troo dude's playlist over anybody else's, the end
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
isn't pfunk talking about dffd posters and smitty talking about people he actually knows??
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
im talking about people i know too
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
half of dffd are more into talking about aphex twin than metal
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Any of you guys heard this?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W8BxmcUmLgc/S_s6dHJUTcI/AAAAAAAAFzU/YJtROeWZnG8/s200/Cleric-Regressions-CD.jpg
Cleric - RegressionsA four piece from Philadelphia, Cleric's music mixes elements of grindcore, avant garde composition, doom and... something else entirely? Influenced by other metal pioneers such as Meshuggah, Converge, Fantômas, and Neurosis, their music zeroes in on a level of brutality and experimentation that a single band rarely maintains even for a few seconds.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.last.fm/music/Cleric
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
I got it in the mail but have been too busy to listen to it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)
would be curious about how that album goes down with you but I'm not too into the track on their myspace. decent dep/fantomas/naked city kitchen sink metal. not bad but vaguely irritating and the different styles don't really gel.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
alan, check your fry up yahoomail
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
will do.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
Checking out Hyponic now
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 20:15 (fifteen years ago)
Just Google'd dffd, came across a board called D00m For3v3r For3v3r D00m3d? is that what y'all were talking about earlier? Haven't been looking too deep into metal stuff for long enough to know what that is.
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:34 (fifteen years ago)
yes
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:35 (fifteen years ago)
Is it a place for metal purists or something? I still have no idea what tr00 means, tbh. O_O
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
i don't really know what it is but i know pfunk is fond of citing it in these kinds of discussions.
tr00, i mean someone can prob explain it better than i can, but basically w/metal there's still a kind of partisan you're in or you're out mentality that is used in opposition to those of us who like metal but also like lots of other music and only wear black tshirts 40% of the time.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)
that's helpful, cad. thanks dude
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
i am here 4 u
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)
hahahaha :-)
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
Please note: if you are female, only wear black tshirts 15% of the time and like lots of other music, you should ask a god or three for mercy on your soul.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
I only wear a black T-shirt 80% of the time. The other 20% I wear the blood of unbaptized babies.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:28 (fifteen years ago)
The Tr00 guys are the ones that say that even though I've been in a metal band for 13 years and work on metal tours and shows and festivals and writing 70+ hours/week, I'm actually an indie nerd posing as a metal head. As far as I can tell, the only way for me to be Tr00 would be to bathe less often and drink WAY more beer.
Anyway, I got a screener copy of Sam Dunn's new Rush documentary last night. It's his best film to date.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:33 (fifteen years ago)
I am neither troo nor kvlt but I got more love for the troo kvlt dudes than most - their position is more interesting than "it's all good" imo, you gotta have a garde to have an avant-garde
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)
loooooooool Nate :-D
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)
my position is that every degree of divergence from what Tapes n' Tapes's perfected w/ "The Insistor" is a grave misstep deserving of twice the amount of derision extant in the universe in which we find ourselves
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)
you don't actually like that band
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:46 (fifteen years ago)
no one actually likes that band
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago)
that song & "Hang Them All" or whatever is not that bad, but i don't really listen to them
that being said, they do name drop Harvard Square so
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)
this thread is a haven from that stuff dude
asking you nicely
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:54 (fifteen years ago)
sorry, will oblige
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 01:56 (fifteen years ago)
I was really excited about the new Nightbringer, after liking Death and the Black Work quite a bit. On first listen today, though, it seemed a bit strained. Hoping to warm to it.
Hit Kathaarsys again on my Shuffle while on a run tonight. Really, really, really liking this band, super especially Verses in Vain.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 May 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
D00m For3v3r For3v3r D00m3d is what was the Southern Lord messsageboard. Greg got fed up with them talking sh!t about Southern Lord & its practices, so shut the SL forum down & everyone decamped to there. I'd actually say it wasn't that troo or kvlt overall as people seem pretty open to Noise, Krautrock & all sorts of other stuff.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 27 May 2010 12:01 (fifteen years ago)
i remember hearing some part of that story somewhere! thanks for explaining all that
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 12:06 (fifteen years ago)
Most people are openminded and discuss anything, but there are a few posters who hate that kind of thing and call everyone nigels.Wandering Boy Poet, who are you on there?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 27 May 2010 12:34 (fifteen years ago)
EXODUS! EXHIBIT B! YES!
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 27 May 2010 12:57 (fifteen years ago)
i'm increasingly really interested in black metal -- bought the new Castevet on Tuesday, and Ludicra's "Stagnant Pond" is so good that I just keep playing it over and over
thinking of picking up that Krallice record ppl liked that came out last year
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)
also looking forward to reading this -- http://bit.ly/bp47og -- soon, which is, in part, about black metal
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, attention glenn m., I'm listening to the new one by diabulus in musica - secrets - it's power metal in the Nightwish/Epica tradition: woman singing operatic, dude singin' Gothenburg death interjections, riffs for days, choral backups...strings! this is pretty hot, to tell you the truth
xpost oh you just posted that to get a rise out of me
Dominic Fox is a writer, poet and musician working in London as a software engineer. Widely active in the online cultural theory scene, he is best known for his weblog, "Poetix", which presents and eclectic mixture of philosophy, cultural criticism and modernist poetry. He has written for The Wire magazine, and his poetry has appeared in various small journals including the literary arts e-zine "Masthead". He grew up in Ross-on-Wye, was educated at Lincoln College, Oxford, and now lives in Northampton with his family. He performs and records shoegazing folk-rock as "w/trem", and blackened experimental metal as "Spiral Jacobs".
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:42 (fifteen years ago)
ksh get the first krallice record not the second imo
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)
hahaha aerosmith, why does that get a rise out of you? (really going to read that book, btw)
cad, thanks dude -- i'll look into both
― ksh, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:46 (fifteen years ago)
He performs and records shoegazing folk-rock as "w/trem", and blackened experimental metal as "Spiral Jacobs".
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:49 (fifteen years ago)
Like I'll bet this guy is a completely solid dude with a lot of interesting ideas and the ability to make interesting connections in a really provocative way and all but the further we keep the shoegazing folk-rock from the black metal the happier I'll be & the further we keep the "blackened experimental metal" in carefully monitored containment the better it'll be for all concerned
that, + scholarly tomes on black metal are basically a recipe for annoying dudes like me
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)
i'm increasingly really interested in black metal -- bought the new Castevet on Tuesday, and Ludicra's "Stagnant Pond" is so good that I just keep playing it over and overthinking of picking up that Krallice record ppl liked that came out last year
I ordered the Castevet too. get both Krallice albums.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)
don't get either krallice record
sorry, couldn't help myself
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
lol.
so, I went to a gorguts show last night. ruled. and they played new stuff.
― original bgm, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
new stuff was not unlike from wisdom to hate but.... maybe with even twistier writing and more in the way of dynamics. some "clean" parts even!
― original bgm, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
luc said he hopes to record a new album in the fall. (!!!)
― original bgm, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:18 (fifteen years ago)
man I probably mentioned this already but I went back to from wisdom to hate on a long drive recently and it is a totally slept-on album in my opinion. seemed like when it was new everybody was like "oh, they didn't take the obscura wildness even further" - and no, they didn't. instead they made a tech-death album so fucking awesome that I'm kind of kicking myself for not spending more time with it - I liked it a lot when it came out, but it can hold its own with all the other Gorguts albums in my opinion. seriously stoked for a new album!!
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)
I am listening to the new Diabulus in Musica for the second time in a row. This kicks fucking ass. They sample an Obama speech on the third track! (I don't really have any idea why, I don't have a lyric sheet.) All power metal enthusiasts on board for this one imo
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:33 (fifteen years ago)
the one thing is, the drumming seems kind of uninspired to me at points. it's one area of listening in which my ears have gotten pretty sensitive in recent years - if a drummer isn't really killing it, I notice. this guy isn't bad at all, I'm sure he could play rings around a lot of guys, but he doesn't play like he feels particularly compelled a lot of the time.
― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)
I am listening to the new Diabulus in Musica for the second time in a row. This kicks fucking ass.
thought you meant this...
http://paganblackmetalmusic.co.cc/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/slayer-full-discography-8.jpg
...and was all like o_O
― original bgm, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:37 (fifteen years ago)
the slayer logo on that one is so pathetic
― original bgm, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
I'm downloading-- er, I mean "investigating" Diabolus in Musica right now.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, it really is Diabulus, not Diabolus.
Some weeks I feel like bands should just go by their EM id numbers, and forget the whole name thing. But that's probably a more appealing idea if you're 12 than if you're 3540288705.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
Diabulus in Musica sounds promising, there are some cool Dark Tranquillity touches. When they're not going all Epica on us the singer actually reminds me of the singer from Brave, in that she takes a tasteful approach, never too bombastic, never too flitty. Thanks for the tip, smithdude, it's easy to lose track of everything Metal Blade puts out.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 27 May 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
Got a vinyl order in the mail yesterday or the day before and getting around to this - man, Shadow Kingdom records can do no wrong in my book right now. This is an unreleased 1989 album by a band from Kansas who sound like darker late eighties metal - like their inspiration is in stuff like Sad Wings of Destiny, maybe a touch of Mercyful Fate but much slower - just a great vibe & great big crunchy guitar - if you can't get into eighties metal sounds this isn't for you but if you can, wow, this is fantastic.
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 28 May 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
God this album kicks all kinds of ass
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 28 May 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)
Very much wanting an enumeration of all the kinds of kickable ass.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 28 May 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)
smithy doesnt do polls!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 May 2010 14:52 (fifteen years ago)
Re the drumming on this Diabulus in Musica album: they list a drummer, but it sure sounds to me like a drum-machine throughout. I actually don't have any problem with that. For new bands, particularly, I think it can be helpful to not have to feel like you're trying to innovate on every instrument at once. Having a solid, basic frame on which the other players can build seems to me to be working in their favor here.
xpost: I was only joking about enumerating ass, but the elders among us will remember that it's possible to make lists of things that nobody votes on...
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 28 May 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
lists of things that nobody votes on
Herman's personal Hell
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 28 May 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
oh man the new Decibel's out! excited! going to the bookstore tonight to get it. now i have something to look forward to
― ksh, Friday, 28 May 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
Is that the Exodus issue or is there a newer one?
― Nate Carson, Friday, 28 May 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
Decibel site showing new July 2010 issue w/ Watain on cover
― ksh, Friday, 28 May 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
Watain is everywhere then. http://truecultheavymetal.com/media/blogs/News/197_WATAIN_COVER_LORES_small.jpghttp://v2.ztmag.com/images/35cover.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 May 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
Is Terrorizer any good? It's really expensive -- like $9+ -- in the US.
― ksh, Friday, 28 May 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
I wish they would drop the promo CD and go back to charging $6.66. But it's definitely the most comparable in quality to Decibel.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 28 May 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
Oh wow, didn't know they made that move. Yeah, I'd rather not pay an extra $2+ for a CD. But I'll at least peek at it on the newsstand.
― ksh, Friday, 28 May 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)
because of the current economic climate they're having to cover some more of the bigger knuckledragging acts but its still a good mag. Its hardcore readers hate the deathcore coverage but they say they have no choice.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 May 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
but they dont seem to cover the extreme but not metal end spectrum like they used to. You wont see Diamanda Galas on the cover now.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 May 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
Only hipsters read decibel.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 28 May 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)
:-D
― ksh, Friday, 28 May 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)
Don't you mean write for? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 28 May 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDLigcWHE44
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Saturday, 29 May 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
I'm sorry to do this, but I always find these threads so overwhelming and I don't know where to start. I don't know much about metal but I'm guessing I tend to like the so-called "hipster" stuff. If I have been given, and really like, the following albums, what are 3 more I should buy to try out?: Torche - "Meanderthal" // Black Breath - "Heavy Breathing" // Baroness - "Blue Record"... thanks and hope I haven't derailed things too much.
― Becky Facelift, Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
You looking more for new/current releases?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:16 (fifteen years ago)
I guess so... I have eMusic credits to spend, so I've just looked up Coffinworm and the band that supposedly sounds like Fugazi mentioned above on there and they have both - I'm checking them out right now.
― Becky Facelift, Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)
I would say the new Harvey Milk album then, but beware, it's very very bleak, but it might well be the best album they have done.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)
Might want to check out Baroness's first record, Red Album, too!
Mastodon's Crack the Skye, which came out last year, is also quite excellent
― ksh, Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)
And Torche - Torche
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
Don't waste your time with Harvey Milk. They're like a more boring Melvins. Definitely look into Baroness's Red Album, though.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
Becky, on eMusic, check out Slough Feg, Agalloch, Madder Mortem, and Opeth off the top of my head. Listen to the samples first and follow your nose. eMusic is a GREAT place to DL metal legitimately.
― we live on bagels we are Wburg FC (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
and the 2 Baroness eps (now on 1cd) which are even better than the albums.
I'll have to check that out, too. (Just bought Dimensional Breakthrough two hours or so ago, though, so that's on deck.)
― ksh, Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
I pre-ordered that a few months back on vinyl and it's supposedly shipped so hopefully it will be here next week.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)
Don't waste your time with Harvey Milk. They're like a more boring Melvins.
BOOOOOOOOOOOO
― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously, of all the bands praised on this thread, they are the one that provokes the most serious you-must-be-joking response from me. I do not get it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)
Sidenote, those of you who dig the dark-folk/evil-ambient kind o' metalz should srsly try to hear the croaking, chanting, droning film score by Christian Henson for the new medieval adventure movie The Black Death. It's on Movie Score Media records. Great, palpable shit.
― we live on bagels we are Wburg FC (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
you heard special wishes? the little mini-suite (that it closes with is masterful, imo.
― original bgm, Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
I'll concede that the melvins are probably the better band, tho. harvey milk are like a more raw (sometimes sloppy) take on the formula. I can get with that.
― original bgm, Saturday, 29 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
Sure, Melvins are inarguably better. And I haven't really spun any Harvey Milk albums. But I did host them live a few years back, and they put on a positively titanic headlining set.
I have heard that they are inconsistent, so perhaps if you've seen them live, it was an off night. But the show I was made me a believer.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
BTW, a second trailer for the Fall Into Darkness 2009 DVD is now online. These are going to sell out fast.
http://www.vimeo.com/12135236
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 29 May 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
What's the best Melvins record? I own zero, although I'm interested in maybe picking up the one that's coming out this Tuesday.
― ksh, Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
Depends who you ask and I'm sure there are many threads about it...
Old school ultimate: BullheadOne track monster: Lysol (aka Melvins s/t)Cobain-approved: HoudiniThe quiet album: The BootlickerLatest greatest: A Senile Animal
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks, Nate! I think I'll look into Bullhead. Excited.
― ksh, Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)
That's where I'd start. :) Enjoy!
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
Houdini will always be my fave as it was my entry point but you cant beat Bullhead
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
Gluey Porch Treatments!
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 30 May 2010 00:40 (fifteen years ago)
^This.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)
guys i dig harvey milk but am bored to death by the melvins like 90% of the time O_O
― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Sunday, 30 May 2010 05:42 (fifteen years ago)
i am kicked out of the coven now aren't i
As much as I like the new Harvey Milk, the new Melvins is even better. What a fun album.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 30 May 2010 05:43 (fifteen years ago)
no the coven is busy contemplating appropriate repercussions for mistreatment of newcomers by its members, to wit, somebody unfamiliar with the genre asked for recommendations and the coven came w/TORCHE, MASTODON, AND BARONESS right out of the gate
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 07:10 (fifteen years ago)
"Guys, I'm new to jazz, what should I hear?""Oh man, go cop some Ben Sidran without delay"
They're good recommendations if we're talking first two Mastodon albums and recent(ish) brilliant but accessible fare. 'Snakes For The Divine' by High On Fire, 'Eater Of Birds' by Cobalt, 'Eve' by UFOmammut, Hey Colossus And The Van Halen Time Capsule, Cathedral 'Guessing Game', Sloath, the last Napalm Death and in the slightly more careworn department Exodus and Slayer's last albums are pretty good, plenty here will rep for Megadeth's last album. Coffinworm are awesome. If you like that really bleak shit check out Buster by Admiral Angry, Things Viral by Khanate, All The Dread Perversity... by Gnaw Their Tongues and Greymachines. And for more 'esoteric' drone-y stuff, Monoliths And Dimensions by SunnO))) probably comes recommended by most people here and there's always Solar Anus, Blood Of The Black Owl, Dillinger, Rolo Tomassi, Shining, Altaar, Wardruna, Arabrot, Overmars, Zu, Gnod, White Hills, Meshuggah, Municipal Waste, Oneida (yeah, yeah, I know...) And no-one's life can truly be considered complete without ownership of at least one Electric Wizard album. And there should be another one this year.
I genuinely feel jealous of someone getting into metal now. It's pretty fucking amazing. I keep on hoping that something that I find impenetrable like free jazz or country music will become clear to me. Getting into a new genre of music is a fucking blast.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 10:32 (fifteen years ago)
hey smithy, the newcomer said what she liked and asked for new/recent stuff in a similar vein, I know you were joking, but that could be misinterpretated by someone who doesn't know you, as being hostile and could put her off participating in this thread and then subsequently missing out in the "more awesome" stuff you prefer.Everyone has to start somewhere in a genre then they can dig deeper into other sub-genres and the canon.I don't know what got you into metal, but you can bet somewhere there was someone who thought it was the wrong thing to get into
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)
Also great to see Solar Anus mentioned here.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)
Hermann our new friend said she had, and liked, records by Torche, Mastodon, and Baroness. You & ksh told her that if she enjoyed those, she might get other albums by Torche, Mastodon, and Baroness. I get to give you shit about that. Sorry but those are the rules.
Yes I know you then followed up with other stuff but anybody who doesn't lol at "I have albums by Torche, Mastodon, and Baroness, like 'em, what do the experts here recommend?" "Try the other albums by the same bands!" is dead inside imo
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
When I come across a band I like I then like to hear everything by them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:12 (fifteen years ago)
Hermann tell me three bands you like & ask me for a recommendation and then tell me you can't actually see what's hilarious about the response you get
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
and I did suggest Harvey Milk first. My Torche and Baroness suggestions were because ksh suggested the others but left out the better releases by the bands!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
yeah I'm standing by my "lol @ that" because it made me lol
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)
you know what? I haven't seen you suggest anything to Becky yet. I really hope the metal thread isn't going to degenerate into a rolling hip-hop type "club".
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)
I suggest to Becky that if she likes music, she has probably already sussed out that she might like other albums by the bands she already likes
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)
and if you yourself don't have a self-knowing chuckle at yourself about that instead of a RAGE AT MEAN OLD AEROSMITH then I feel bad for you dude
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)
just woke up, but that is kind of funny now that you point it out, good sir -- ah well! recommendations stand
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
"so I've just looked up Coffinworm and the band that supposedly sounds like Fugazi mentioned above on there and they have both - I'm checking them out right now."
becky might want to check out fugazi.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
never thought I'd be telling somebody "see now that ksh has his wits about him" but well here we are
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
also -- i'm still in the relative metal n00b, figuring-things-out and asking questions mode myself, so i don't have too many albums to choose from when giving recommendations to ppl
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
low blow aerosmith, low blow :-)
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
FWIW my recommendation for people who like the stuff Mastodon and Baroness have been doing the last couple of years is Machine Head by Deep Purple
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:34 (fifteen years ago)
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/cactus%203.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)
http://files.myopera.com/JazzRockFusion/blog/Armageddon001.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:38 (fifteen years ago)
wow you guys sure are falling over yourselves to please the (presumably) girl n00bif she likes metal she can figure it out like the rest of us
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)
*sigh*
this threads really turning shit today
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
the "no I did a better job helping becky" discussion was making me sick -- sorrybut carry on if you must
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
actually the thread's really interesting Hermann, & fun, sorry it doesn't have more polls and that people are actually engaging in spirited disagreement instead of just going "all this stuff is nice, it's all nice"
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
La Lechera though I gotta assume you have been at a metal show and felt the entire atmosphere list in one direction when a woman enters the room, this is hardly a new phenomenon
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
A-grade ILX thread descending into a morass of meta bullshit shocker
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I guess so -- I don't notice it much happening to me (a woman) but I guess it happens. I just don't really enjoy when that dynamic shows up in an environment where we're just black/white text. I just think it's lame.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:03 (fifteen years ago)
anyway, please let's continue talking about more interesting things
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
sorry La L if I'm culpable in this I was mainly just trying to lol at the Trinity Of Neo-Boogie recommendations
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:06 (fifteen years ago)
None of this is because it was a "girl" who asked. This is complete bullshit and completely unworthy of every single one of you.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:09 (fifteen years ago)
can we stop?
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
once they retract the bullshit this is because its a girl asked crap
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:11 (fifteen years ago)
Herman, you are an A+ dude, this "argument" is totally not worth your or anyone else's time
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:12 (fifteen years ago)
you know what you might do instead of getting all indignant for once is ask why you came off that way to La Lechera
just a thought, "is that how I seemed to you? fuck, don't wanna come off that way" infinitely better approach than "no way, I don't feel like that so if it looked like that to you you're wrong"
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
thanks and hope I haven't derailed things too much.
― Becky Facelift, zaterdag 29 mei 2010 19:11 (Yesterday) Bookmark
― Thijs, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)
cue good will hunting.jpg
― Thijs, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:19 (fifteen years ago)
apropos of nothing except that I saw it, 4 months ago somebody linked to Phil's very slightly editorialized announcement of the Soundgarden reunion & the comments on the piece bring quality lol per minute
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
do i seriously have to explain this?
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)
phil black hole sonned in msn beef
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
hey La L actually I would be appreciative if you did - I would like to know if I came off creepy to you & I can stand it if I did, it would be useful for me to know
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)
man, skimming through those comments makes me wish we had comments on ILX
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
if you're forcing me to answer this question (skip to * if you don't want to read about this) guess it was the chivalry, the possible (maybe perceived on my part) dick waving about who can help becky best. who can truly give becky what she needs? who can give her the proper recommendations? it just seemed ridiculous. i've seen this happen irl and while it never really happens to me (i don't remember the last time i asked for help with anything because i've always been a do-my-own-research sort of music listener) it happens. and it really doesn't happen the same way when a guy is asking for recommendations. that's all.
no hard feelings btw -- i just want everyone to continue talking about metal. * in fact, i would like to talk about festivals. if i can't make it to roadburn (too $$ to get to europe any time soon) and i don't want to metal cruise (no seasickness pls also cozumel blecch) what are some of my other options? what's nate's thing called again? would like to visit PNW.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)
note: you could always sb me if you feel that strongly
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
and it really doesn't happen the same way when a guy is asking for recommendations. that's all.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)
we do, it's the "submit post" button
in re: festivals, I don't know, I would have gone to MDF if I didn't have to leave town for work, but pick through these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_festivals
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)
Speaking as a UK poster, it's not unusual for women to be into metal. I mean some gigs I go to are nearly 50/50. Half the metalheads I know are women. Jumping to the worst possible conclusion out of myriad possibilities is a bit shitty. I've had exactly the same conversation with plenty of male people on this board. Acoleuthic being one...
"Who can give her what she needs?" That's a bit fucking low.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)
man, skimming through those comments makes me wish we had comments on ILXwe do, it's the "submit post" button
and you were suggesting i saw the slow one, doggie? ;-D
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
not about the actual poster apart from the mention that newbies will be put off by such attitudes, in my opinion.
ksh had the living fuck hazed out of him when he first got to this board & he's doing just fine as far as I can tell
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)
truth bomb
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
see pretty much my first few months posting as kshighway
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
Bullshit. Not on these rolling metal threads that I've been posting on for years and certainly none that involve me.I wasn't talking specifically about you -- it's the collateral damage of this happening irl as long as i can remember. Please accept my apologies if you thought I was calling you a cretin. None of you are jerks, I know that. I was just annoyed.
What I'm saying is that guys get the living fuck hazed out of them -- girls (sometimes) get treated like lambies.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)
Ok fuck you!
</crap attempt at joke>
What should we be talking about then?
</spits on floor in manly yet non-discriminatory fashion>
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
f u too bozo :)
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
Fair enough. No worries.ksh got hazed because of his previous posting history though, same with LJ and ilxor. But it's not right to do it on somebody's more or less first post on this thread who doesn't have a certain kind of online backstory. And that applies to all sexes. I do not see what the problem is with being polite sometimes.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)
ksh got hazed because of his previous posting history though
what?
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
when i started posting as kshighway, no one had any idea that i had even posted here before, because i had only posted for a handful of months in 2007 under a different name, and no one paid much attention to me
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
you had been posting on ilm a while before posting on this thread, right? you were seen as being "pitchfork indie" iirc
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
for sure -- but i was never hazed on Rolling Metal, just everywhere else
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
plus everyone thought you were dom or something? i forget.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
i don't follow the great sock wars that closely.
I couldn't tell you who anyones sockpuppets are tbh
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
btw if anyone wants recommendations for good metal (IMO) then they could do a lot worse than checking out http://www.profoundlorerecords.com/
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)
plus everyone thought you were dom or something? i forget.― scott seward, Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:04 PM
― scott seward, Sunday, May 30, 2010 12:04 PM
hahaha -- if they did, i wasn't aware of it
― ksh, Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
tons of ppl thought i was someone's sock though
I think most new posters seem to get that accusation.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)
ksh what are your favourite discoveries since you started posting on rolling metal?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)
i don't listen to torche, mastodon, or baroness, but its possible i might like a band called coffinworm. they don't feature, like, ex-members of superchunk or anything, do they?
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
Coffinworm
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)
I think you would enjoy Hooded Menace too
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)
blackened sludge doom. you could describe my lungs the very same way.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
i think i can download all this stuff from my e-mail, but i never do. cuz i'm lazy. and hate listening to music on my computer. but i should check some of the newer profound lore stuff. i dig them.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
Your lungs will like Sloath on Riot Season.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
have I already stanned for Shadow Kingdom records enough? because they are just killing it dead with obscure reissues. amazing shit. on the sludgy front tho ss try to get that hyponic thing I was talking about, it's remarkable.
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
Scott you do too listen to Baroness. You posted abt it. It's OK!
Still lolling about Ben Sidran, A+ to the man in the aerosmith T.
― we live on bagels we are Wburg FC (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)
yeah the ben sidran post was choice but i didn't want to pile on.
i listened to the last baroness album once and i liked it! listened to the one before it once too and liked it okay too. so, yes, i have listened to baroness. but i don't "listen" to baroness.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
but i've got no problem with baroness. i like kylesa more though. or i really like one album by kylesa a bunch anyway. enough to listen to it, like, six times.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)
and as far as mastodon goes:
remission - listened to it twice for review purposes and even bought the vinyl cuz it looked cool. later sold vinyl on ebay without ever listening to vinyl. gave it a rave review in the village voice based on those two listens.
leviathan - don't think i ever listened to it.
blood mountain - bought the cd and listened to it once. sold cd.
crack the skye - listened to some of the tracks on youtube.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)
but i got no problem with them either. more power to them. in theory i should love them. just don't ever want to hear them. the heart wants what the heart wants.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
leviathan is actually the best one in my opinion
― henceforth we eat truffle fries (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoy them when i put them on but then i get a feeling like damn this is time i could be listening to rush.
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
my fave mastodon moment is actually the sample at the beginning of shadows that move. had it on a relapse comp and i would play it over and over. just the sample and the first minute or so of the song. one of the all-time great movie sample intros. someone told me that some deejay on wfmu used to play the same sample on their show, but i don't know who used it first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o93ttGgeUX4
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
what movie is that from?
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
one flew over the cuckoos nest. according to wikipedia. i haven't seen the movie in years. don't remember that outburst.
― scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah its been like 20 yrs for me. It is on Watch Instantly at the moment...
― 99 anna hay-uff jussa woan' do (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 30 May 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
Actually that comp and Leviathan are my favourites with the latter easily being in my top ten metal albums of the last decade. That comp is great though 'Slickleg' and 'Battle At Sea'.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 30 May 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)
have I already stanned for Shadow Kingdom records enough? because they are just killing it dead with obscure reissues. amazing shit.
HEAR HEAR. great label & distro. i think i tried to get people on an earlier version of this thread to check out The Hand Of Doom reissue unsuccessfully.
― Always-Smells-Like-Maple Man (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 30 May 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
"what's nate's thing called again? would like to visit PNW."
Dear LL, please do come. I'm doing a mini-fest July 9-10 called Day of Hel, but my main annual festival in Portland is called Fall into Darkness and will occur this year on Columbus Day Weekend Oct 7-10.
Portland is an awesome place to visit. Just ask EZSnappin. We been hangin all weekend. :)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 30 May 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
And for the record, I haven't been posting on ILX for that long, and never really experienced any sort of hazing that I recall. Folks have been quite nice.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 30 May 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)
Ooh! I'll look into it. Thanks!
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, what a weird discussion I missed over the last few days...
― original bgm, Monday, 31 May 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
someone told me that some deejay on wfmu used to play the same sample on their show, but i don't know who used it first.
That would be Chris T. of Aerial View and Communication Breakdown: http://www.wfmu.org/Playlists/AV/chris_archives.shtmlhttp://www.wfmu.org/playlists/co
― Brakhage, Monday, 31 May 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe I missed the mention of the Ufomammut - Eve. I could have had CD in hand weeks ago! Just saw the review this weekend in Decibel. Checked it out - Boris and Kyuss have a lovechild in space, a 45 minute epic doom track named after the first woman (not Michelle Obama). Pink Floyd and Hawkwind are the proud grandparents. Nice! I'll order from All That Is Heavy. Also read that Torche scaled down their album to an EP for fall release, with supposedly full album in 2011.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 31 May 2010 20:01 (fifteen years ago)
to whoever it was that asked for metal to be added to the nominations list for the 2005-09 poll, I just posted some ILM Top 100 2005-2009: NOMINATIONS THREAD (Ends at midnight GMT on May 31st, 2010)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 31 May 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
Lets all vote and get some stuff in the poll
It's a cracker Fastnbulbous. I'm currently trying to arrange a London gig for them.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:18 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, shit got super weird.
I love Fugazi - I always liked all the Dischord stuff (and lots of hardcore) in high school & college but I just never really had a metal phase - hence seeking recommendations from you people when I found out I like a lot more of it than I realized. As for i don't remember the last time i asked for help with anything because i've always been a do-my-own-research sort of music listener I can totally appreciate that, but I figure threads like this can kind of be a live RIYL from real experts who know their stuff, and that's one of the things that's amazing about ILM as far as I can tell (as long as it doesn't piss people off by derailing active conversations, and I apologize again if I did that).
Either way, thanks a ton for the recommendations - I've already picked up a bunch of stuff... I love the Coffinworm so far. The High on Fire sounds cool. The Harvey Milk sounds good but maybe a little slow for my tastes? At least the first couple of tracks (on what I think is the newest album) seem a bit TOO bleak, as some of you've said. In the meantime someone else gave me "Enthrone Darkness Triumphant" by Dimmu Borger and I like it, though it seems worlds away from something like Black Breath - all the synthesizers and Carmina Burana-ty of it all are a bit silly. But it's kind of cool.
Duran and Jon Lewis have given me a shitload of stuff to sift through (thanks a lot), so for now I'm going to vamoose and get woodshedding on my metal listenin'. Thanks again...
― Becky Facelift, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:39 (fifteen years ago)
Enthrone Darkness Triumphant is actually kinda stripped-down and primitive, as Dimmu Borgir goes...they peaked on Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia and Death Cult Armageddon, when they brought in actual orchestras and choirs, ending up with something like what might happen if John Williams started a black metal band. So if you like EDT, check those out - and if you find yourself convulsed with laughter, well, me too.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)
finally found the new Decibel -- thanks Newbury Comics! -- and picked up the new Melvins rekkid too
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:31 (fifteen years ago)
so: Wold? all i know about them is what i've dug up in the past few minutes of web searching, but Stosuy, over on Twitter, says: "This weekend I confirmed WOLD's first ever live show/public ritual. 8/15. NYC. More info to come."
anyone like them? if so, could you recommend one of their records to start with?
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)
Bloody Panda just called. They are on the way over to shower before commencing on their first west coast tour. Looking forward to finally meeting/seeing these folks :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)
<3 u Nate.
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
WOLD is polarizing to say the least. Screech Owl is their best one, I love the lyrics and the mood it creates, it totally evokes the brutal winters out here. Their latest one Working Together For Our Privacy takes the noise gimmick so far that I wonder if it's a total piss-take.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)
I listened to samples of Screech Owl on eMusic a few months ago after talk of them on here and I was like, 'no'. I need more peaks, valleys, crags and cliffs in my music; it just sounded like a soup.
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
it totally evokes the brutal winters out here.
Perfect. I'm sold. Thanks, Adrien!
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)
Herman, I'll get back to you about what I've been listening to -- just gotta go through my iTunes and come up w/ a list.
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
i can't stop listening to high tide today. sea shanties being one of my fave albums ever. people new to metal should start here in 1969.
http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1659/cover_21141014112009.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:37 (fifteen years ago)
Hate to spread tweet/rumors but according to this, Ian Astbury may be joining Boris?
http://www.chartattack.com/news/85885/wtf-ian-astbury-is-joining-boris
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - I will join you Scott. That's a great album that I don't spin nearly often enough!
LOVE that album! i listened to it the other day, in fact.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
"walking down their outlook" always gets stuck in my head
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)
Nile's ideal audience discovered at last... http://bit.ly/9nQQ67
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)
was tempted to pickup a reissue of that high tide lp blind because of its rep + the badass cover. guess I should have.
also, people new to metal coming from the baroness/mastodon angle would do well to check out the new cathedral - the guessing game. got it spinning right now and it still rules. also strikes me as v. approachable despite its length.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)
Wow, why does crazy stuff always go down when I'm away for a few days?
Anyway, Becky, off the top of my head I would recommend checking out Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence, Nachtmystium - Black Meddle (both parts 1 and 2), and Jucifer - Throned in Blood. Anyway, I'm going to go back to listening to April Wine.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Alan: bought the Cathedral and never really listened to it, but i'm looking forward to it more now
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
For god's sake, ksh, throw that shit on. You'll know what kind of presence you're in almost immediately.
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
ok duder, it will be the next thing i listen to tonight
― ksh, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
Is the kind of presence supposed to be "greatness?" Is that where you were going with that?
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
yes indeed.
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I've been spinning it pretty consistently. so good.
also love the gatefold pic of them hangin and scoping out vinyl.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)
and for those who are unfamiliar, I recommended it because its coming just as much from a psych/prog angle as a metal one. if not more so.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)
one final thing - not sure if these guys have tackled the topic before (I really only know their first two albums) but the animal rights lyrics on "Requiem For The Voiceless" really struck a chord.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
alright, I lied. "the running man" is better than "21st century schizoid man".
― original bgm, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
love this album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8EzYfmQ8NU&feature=related
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
hell, i gotta dig it out now. whenever i hear the words "the running man" it makes me want to hear that album. does LJ have that tear garden album? totally his kinda thing. i think. based on anecdotal ilm evidence.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:23 (fifteen years ago)
um, album would be: Last Man To Fly
(if anyone's interested)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
one of these days i will listen to some new metal, i promise!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:25 (fifteen years ago)
listening to and enjoying Nachtmystium's Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. 1, b/c their new record is being released next week and i want to. the dude shouting "in the terror twilight" at the end, though, makes me keep thinking of the Pavement album of that same name which, incidentally, I've never heard
― ksh, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 03:23 (fifteen years ago)
he's probably never heard it either -- he just discovered interpol and joy division!as previously mentioned, i'm eagerly anticipating their new one. at its worst it could sound like sisters of mercy, which isn't all that bad once in a while.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 11:37 (fifteen years ago)
i liked that interview btw
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 11:50 (fifteen years ago)
hey metalheads have any thoughts on Locrian? liking their new one, Territories, but not sure if it fits this thread or not
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
i like that locrian album. i reviewed it last year for my noize column when it was vinyl-only.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)
i saw locrian perform a few months ago and it was kind of dull and grueling, but i suspect i was just feeling impatient (they opened for ludicra and there was another opening band after them and that band was pretty terrible) and also because i was hungry. i liked what i heard, though, and would probably prefer to hear it in the privacy of my living room while i was reading or doing something else.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 June 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)
I went to see Entombed, Woe of Tyrants and Gwynnbleidd last night. It was good.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)
New Soilwork record is pretty strong on first listen. I've always loved this band, but it feels like they were treading water on the last few releases. Nothing significantly different sonically this time around, except for the return of their good guitarist, but it sounds like they've returned to a little more technical and brutal sound this time around. Lots of arpeggios, less chugging. nothing ridiculously catchy yet, but I'm only on the third track.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, here we go. "Deliverance Is Mine" fits the catchiness bill nicely.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
hey quick ? for metal dudez:
what are good metal labels these days? like i looked at roadrunner and they seem pretty wack now, though they did sign steve miller, good first step IMO
(also this is cuz i'm doing a podcast and wanted to do some metal for bumper tunes, so like either reeeaaally extreme gore/grind/black or arty sunnO)) drone stuff is probably out)...
like, um, stuff like mastodon that is cool w/metal dudes but has some larger appeal would be perfect, i can't get TOO abrasive on this stuff
or like power stuff that's more a throwback to the old dio/maiden style melodic stuff would be perfect too
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)
try Baroness or Torche?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qii59-7JAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgvqEJstNrw
― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
^ cool w/ some metal dudes, at least
― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)
For your traditional power/thrash/death stuff, Nuclear Blast has most of the best acts signed at this point. For your more artsy/hip/pitchfork-friendly stuff, you can't really go wrong with Relapse or Profound Lore.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Century Media and Metal Blade have some great stuff, but they're both currently undergoing a bit of an identity crisis, so there's no real consistency and there's a lot of crap. E1 has a lot of the bigger acts like High on Fire, but they don't really have any sort of signing philosophy other than the stuff they think will sell. You might want to check out Prophecy, though -- they have a lot of the "prettier" ambient black metal acts and stuff with lots of cred.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)
Southern Lord have a lot of the hipper, heavier groups. Hydra Head and Translation Loss have a lot of the high-level post-metal type groups. Prosthetic has a lot of cool stuff, but they might be a little more brutal than you're looking for.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 3 June 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
high on fire might be a good choice, they are kinda 70s guitar hero/rock band friendly (this is a video game podcast)...torche would work too def.
will investigate all suggestions, thx a bunch :)
i think southern lord might be too "weird", i get complaints sometimes even when i do stuff i think is pretty normal to boring
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
M@tt, link us to the podcast w/ the metal in it when it goes up? :-)
― http://bit.ly/dwHthS (ksh), Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
will do. i gotta clear everything that's on like "real" labels and sometimes they don't go for it
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
I saw Isis' farewell tour last night. I don't care for the newer material, but they really played it with feeling. Looking forward to the inevitable reunion in 2016.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)
Screener copies of the Fall Into Darkness Festival DVD 2009 are now available. If you have a press outlet or well-trafficked blog, shoot me your mailing address. It turned ou great!
― Nate Carson, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
Nate -
make sure and drop me a line when these go onsale. Very excited to see it!
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)
Dunno who else here other than me is into the Hungarian semi-gothic-metal band Gyöngyvér, but I only just realized that they had a new album late last year, called Álmokból Álomba.... Just listening for the first time, but it sounds really great so far. Kind of like what I wanted Paradise Lost to turn into before they got all stiff, or even a little like a more-metal version of Muse rediscovering their lower-gloss roots.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 5 June 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)
I was really fond of Without Face, a Hungarian goth-metal band - any points of comparison there?
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 5 June 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)
J0hn, you might appreciate this. Shadow Kingdom just called me asking if I'd book some of his clients :)
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:52 (fifteen years ago)
!!!
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 5 June 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)
Hrm, I had one Without Face album long ago, but I don't remember it all that well, and had forgotten that they were Hungarian, too. Male and female singers, though, right? Gyöngyvér are more gothic in the melancholy, Sentenced-ish sense, not the operatic Nightwish-ish-ish-ish sense.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 5 June 2010 14:39 (fifteen years ago)
So I totally missed out on this last year, but I picked up The Weirding from Astra yesterday and am really loving it. Its pretty derivative prog that could have been recorded in 1971, but thats right up my alley.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)
And on the subject of metal covers, which I was thinking about since hitting Thunderstorm's covers via Metal Listening Club, Gyöngyvér has a storming and yet not entirely unfaithful version of Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" on that album from last year!
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
Haven't been on Rolling Metal in a while.
My hiatus, in metal terms: played with Ludicra on decancelation tour (BRAGGIN '10), saw Watain, Gorguts, Nazgul and DRI @ Deathfest (DRI were weird, imo, and i am a huuuge fan), met Erik from Watain who liked (or, at least, indicated) my Beherit shirt, got Only Death is Real, going on tour with Locusta yall! Come see us on that west coast
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
When/where is the Portland date Roxy?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
This MetalSucks.net post on the history of screamo, metalcore and all the music nobody here listens to, but I do since I write about it for Alternative Press, is a must-read. Especially love the family tree.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)
the dude shouting "in the terror twilight" at the end, though, makes me keep thinking of the Pavement album of that same name which, incidentally, I've never heard
Hear this album now. It is Pavement's best album, even if 99% of their fans won't recognize or admit it.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)
There's a big Maiden doin' happening in four and a half hours at www.ironmaiden.com .
Iknow what it is too...it's a doozy.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
ilxors: will have to pick it up at some point :-)
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
Your Los Angeles tour date is comic con weekend! You need to reschedule.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
There's a big Maiden doin' happening in four and a half hours at www.ironmaiden.com .Iknow what it is too...it's a doozy.
Announcing partnership with Steve Jobs to tie in to today's new product announcement, band to be renamed iMaiden.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)
Why did I even bother signing legal forms promising to not spill the beans when Ned just goes and blurts out the news anyway?
― A. Begrand, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)
While we are talking abt Maiden I see that Bruce Dickinson's movie 'Crowley: The Chemical Wedding' is on netflix instant. Fun/worth it?
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)
It's currently like jamming a couple billion people into a phone booth, but Maiden's awesome new track "El Dorado" is indeed here: http://www.ironmaiden.com/download/index.html
Personally I love it. I'm not allowed to discuss the rest of the album for another month (!), but I will say this new song is a really appropriate teaser.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
man I don't agree with you at all & would be shocked if I ever met anybody who did on this question, but I gotta show for-real-no-joke respect for a guy voicing the opinion that Terror Twilight is the best Pavement album! I do love Carrot Rope to bits
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
so far i've heard all the Pavement LPs through Brighten The Corners, and Crooked Rain, hands down, wins for me. but I still need to listen to Terror Twilight
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:51 (fifteen years ago)
It's good. But yeah, I'm one of those dummies who is stubbornly attached to the first four albums.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
pretty much impossible to d/l that new maiden track from their site right now but blabbermouth posted a youtube stream:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=141208
diggin the album cover!
http://www.ironmaiden.com/The-Final-Frontier-cover.jpg
― original bgm, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
also, cmon, wowee zowee is the best pavement! or the only one I still listen to, anyway.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
disappointed that there's no track named "what does god need with a starship?" on the tracklist, tbh
― original bgm, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
oh man, I shouldn't have directly linked to maiden's site. reloading this thread makes a request to their server now which is already being bombarded by crazy fans.
if you're a mod, feel free to swap the img for a link. sorry!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:12 (fifteen years ago)
I'm supposed to review the Iron Maiden for a certain distinguished publication, but I've yet to receive my watermark in the mail. I look forward to it.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)
Cool stuff! Looking forward to your write-up, Jeff.
"El Dorado" holds up tremendously a couple days removed from my initial listens. Smith brings the 70s hard rock riffs on this track, that's for sure...it's no surprise that Maiden went back to being awesome the day he returned to the band.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 06:49 (fifteen years ago)
Looking forward to picking up the new Nachtmystium, and perhaps the new Watain too, later today.
― I DRINK MY! I DRINK MY! I DRINK MY! I DRINK MY COOOOOKKKKKEEEEE! (ksh), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
― Nate Carson, Monday, June 7, 2010 1:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
it's july 22nd. i don't know the venue name, but i'll let you know.
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
Fucking awesome cover!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that cover is pretty great. I've never even heard a Maiden record, but I'll probably be starting with that one.
― ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
Starting with reformed/reunion albums by classic bands with huge back catalogs = usually dud. I mean, if you wanted to check out the Stooges for the first time, would you really go pick up a shiny new copy of The Weirdness and expect to be awed?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
You're right.
― ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
Really? No snarky/imagebomb/lolfest ksh circa 2010 reply?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:22 (fifteen years ago)
iron maiden are not reformed or reunited.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)
I try my best to keep that stuff out of Rolling Metal.
― ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)
ksh -
The Maiden album to start with is probably Live After Death, because it's simultaneously a best-of and proof that they're a world-crushingly awesome live act. After that, dig into the '80s catalog. Everything from the s/t debut through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is good to great.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe we need a Lolling Metal thread...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)
The Number of The Beast was the one I started with thanks to "Run To The Hills" on MTV. It's a great, fun entry point, with several memorable songs, though my favorite ended up being Piece Of Mind with the improved drumming and overall awesome playing.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
Maiden's last album is fucking ace and, arguably, the best thing they've done since Powerslave. So it's not really that mad a comment. And what Unperson said about Live After Death, the first Maiden album I bought when it came out. Although my mum wasn't keen on the in between song swearing.
They have a pretty spinal tap-esque list on the sleeve letting you know how many gallons of OJ they drank and how many miles of toilet paper they used on the entire tour.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks, unperson!
For those not following along, over on the Nachtmystium thread we have been talking about Taylor Swift and a dog that looks like Blake Judd.
― ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
Taylor Swifta dog that looks like Blake Judd.
a dog that looks like Blake Judd.
^ referring to two diff people iirc ^
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
imo the 2-disc best of is a perfect maiden intro
they are the fucking best
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
but then again Killers is phenomenal and you could argue that to hear a little Di'anno style and then what came next would be a cool way to go
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
i don't think i've ever gotten into an artist via a best of before -- i usually head for the consensus "classic" pick first or dive in with their latest release, depending
― ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:53 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I was gonna recommend killers too. kinda punk/kinda thin lizzy/completely awesome. then proceed chronologically to tons and tons of classic records.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
I agree with Phil, Live After Death would be a phonomenal album to start with. But yeah, one cannot ignore the Di'Anno stuff, which is classic in its own right. Much more confrontational than theatrical.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
Taylor Swifta dog that looks like Blake Judd.^ referring to two diff people iirc ^
:-(
― original bgm, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:09 (fifteen years ago)
I really hope the new one is less underwhelming than A Matter of Life and Death. I'm a little worried just because the song lengths seem longer like on the last one, but hopefully that freaky album cover portends good things.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not allowed to talk about it for a full month. That's pretty much torture for anyone with a blog & twitter.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)
Aw, you can tell us...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 01:43 (fifteen years ago)
i don't think i've ever gotten into an artist via a best of before
no time like the present - this is a band whose best-of really gives you a sense of just how good they are, how many bullets they have in the belt. but do get Killers also.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:12 (fifteen years ago)
Electronica superstar Moby discovers ironic cock rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aupFA9JQMM&feature=player_embedded#!
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:32 (fifteen years ago)
noooo thanks
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:43 (fifteen years ago)
Come on, you know you want to!
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:01 (fifteen years ago)
nachtmystium real badass last night. even more excited to pick up new album now; also watain.
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
hey did you guys who read decibel see my interview with my pal mary in the newest issue? probably the one and only interview that i will ever conduct! though i hope they run with my metal moms idea and have other people do them. mary was my inspiration for that. they even used the photo i took of her at my record store.
(when i first started doing stuff for decibel they asked me to interview some band - kylesa? - and i actually got as far as e-mailing the band and then i remembered that i really didn't want to do stuff like that. so i haven't. i'm not a journalist and i like to have as little contact with musicians as possible as a reviewer.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)
posting a moby video on the metal thread is a new low. even for you, girly man!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
With a nice mom like that, how could her child be evil enough for metal? She seems like a sweetheart.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
Just read that this morning, she's an awesome mom! Also more pictures of metal dudes in their childhood Sesame Street costumes please!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)
this may be kind of anathema here, but can anyone help out with venue names or any help for booking in these cities, for my and locusta's sake:
7/12/2010 Fort Wayne, IN (or Flint, Michigan)7/15/2010 Des Moines, IA7/18/2010 Cheyenne, WY7/19/2010 Salt Lake City, UT7/20/2010 Boise, ID7/23/2010 Redding, CA7/24/2010 Reno, NV7/27/2010 San Diego, CA7/28/2010 Phoenix, AZ7/29/2010 Albuquerque, NM7/30/2010 Amarillo, TX8/03/2010 New Orleans, LA
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:53 (fifteen years ago)
So I'm loving the new Watain, but after reading the interviews in the new Decibel and on IO, I'm not such a big fan of them when they aren't making music.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)
io interview confirmed my love tbh
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 June 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)
I'd like to see a metal moms feature about Watain, preferably with childhood corpsepaint photos.
― Brad C., Thursday, 10 June 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)
My story on Fear Factory...I didn't read the Decibel cover story on them, so I have no idea whether Cazares' allegations came up therein.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2010 13:45 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know, their whole "we're soooooo evil, we're soooooooooo evil" schtick just rubs me the wrong way. Of course some would argue thats the point, but the stronger they deny that its all an act - the more I'm inclined to read it as such.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
i mean
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
Are we missing part of your post?
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with schtick (hello, I am a metal fan), but trying to convince me that you actually spend weeks sleeping in the filth of slaughtered animals? No thanks.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)
but that is schtik?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)
Are we talking about Watain? The feature made the dude out to be pretty sincere, tbh.
― ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)
The Decibel cover story, that is.
Decibel's not in the business of deflating bands' mythologies, as far as I can tell.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
What would it mean for a writer to "deflate" their "mythology"? I mean, the Watain dude seems to just be saying where he's coming from, and the writer's trying to present that in an interesting way. I don't see how someone could "deflate" what the guy's saying without pulling a sort of "This dude's full of shit" move, and there seems to be no ground for doing that, really.
― ksh, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
I don't find Watain's music all that compelling, but I definitely give them credit for putting on a convincing show of making black metal a lifestyle. It sounds miserable to be near, but that makes it more fun to read about it in a magazine.
I also note for the record that I just played my 3yo daughter snippets of the new Jewel and Nevermore albums to choose between for listening while we're eating lunch, and she picked Nevermore with enthusiasm.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
Manowar Mythology Deflated
and start with the 1st Iron Maiden, it's their best.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)
ksh will love Ever wanted to hear a band that mixes Eurodance/Rave with Metal/Screamo?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)
Iron Maiden, Killers, Number Of The Beast and Live After Death are their essential albums I'd say.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
BEST IRON MAIDEN STUDIO ALBUM
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
I don't get ILM sometimes -- how is Iron Maiden a better album than Killers? It isn't. And the Bruce stuff is better than the Paul stuff -- everything through Seventh Son is a Stone cold classic.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
And the Bruce stuff is better than the Paul stuff
no.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)
Bruce over Paul without question. They gave him the boot for a reason.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)
What's the point of that Manowar website? Seems unnecessarily mean-spirited.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
I like both the Paul and Bruce stuff. Paul had a better batting average, but that will happen when you only get to do 2 records. And I believe he got booted for extracirricular activity, if I remember correctly. I also like Bruce singing the Paul stuff, don't know if it could work the other way around.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
Are there ilxors affiliated with that Metal Inquisition site? Just curious, what with the timing of that Xe-None thread popping up here and on the entry over there.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:31 (fifteen years ago)
You just outed pfunkboy!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I saw it on that site while I was looking for the manowar thing (that was discussed on a previous rolling metal thread)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
My thoughts on Iron Maiden's 2000s-heavy set list (hint: I'm in favor).
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)
I was just going to post the same thing, I'm totally geeked about the new set. It's pretty much what I was hoping they'd do.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure I necessarily agree, but Ive seen them enough times. I'll save my beer money for the Slayer/Megadeth concert.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm skipping Slayer/Megadeth, for a couple of reasons: 1) I've seen Slayer enough times already; 2) I saw Megadeth at Roseland a few years ago and at Hammerstein a couple of years after that, and they killed it both times; 3) I'm not into the play-the-whole-album thing; and 4) the Meadowlands is too hard to get to without a car.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
When those two albums are Rust in Peace and Seasons in the Abyss, I'll make an exception!
With you on the Meadowlands, I really wish this was at Prudential, but I'll take it. Last time I saw Megadeth was opening for Heaven and Hell at Holmdel a couple years ago, and I was shocked at how awesome they were.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
I've been trying to remember the "gay metal" band that appeared on the cover of Kerrang and created a lot of controversy. And finally I have found out who was. RPLA.
Here is the article I found http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/cult-heroes-james-maker/http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kerrang-rpla.jpg
It was a most unlikely scenario.Morrissey’s best china, who apparently began his career as an exotic dancer in The Smiths before fronting bequiffed Mancunian popsters Raymonde, growing his hair long and reinventing himself as the hunky lead singer in a bunch of raging ratbag rawkers called Red Patent Leather Angels (RPLA).But that’s exactly what happened.James Maker, come on down.I remember visiting the offices of EMI Records one time at the beginning of the 1990s and being played a demo of RPLA’s song The Absolute Queen Of Pop.It sounded like The Cult (Electric era) pummelling their way through a cover of David Bowie’s Rebel Rebel – and I loved it to bits. (Absolute Queen Of Pop is rumoured to be about Morrissey but this has, to the best of my knowledge, never been confirmed.)Way back then we used to give away flexi-discs with Kerrang! magazine. Strange as it may seem today, they were a popular gift and used to boost our circulation substantially. In February 1991 we decided to include The Absolute Queen Of Pop on one of these flexis, along with tracks from Thunder and a long-forgotten combo by the name of Sweet Addiction.Kerrang!’s flexis used to be released via imaginary record companies. In this particular case our made-up label was called Bendynoize, the catalogue number of RPLA’s flexi being BENDER 1.In all honesty, we didn’t know what was about to happen.http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kerrang-flexi.jpgA few months later, in May, ahead of a big marketing push by EMI, we put RPLA on Kerrang!’s cover; photo shoot by Ross Halfin and everything.Publishing company Emap had just acquired Kerrang! for big bucks and the execs were hesitant about giving RPLA such major coverage. But new bands had been a staple of Kerrang! since its inception 10 years previous. So I told the managing director, Tom Moloney, not to sweat.RPLA, I insisted breathlessly, were heading for great things.Unbeknown to me, Moloney was something of a secret rocker and went to check out RPLA when they played London’s Marquee club. He burst into the Kerrang! office the next morning and barked: “They’re the worst band I’ve ever seen!” (I think this may have hastened my departure from Kerrang!’s hallowed halls.)The jockstrap well and truly unravelled shortly afterwards. RPLA frontman James Maker told the world – well, anyone who would listen, at any rate – that he was homosexual. Kerrang!, somehow, became a laughing stock for unwittingly putting a ‘gay heavy metal band’ on its cover.You’d have thought Ross Halfin, in particular, would have been apoplectic with rage. But, strangely, I remember him taking it all in his stride. In fact, Ross was more concerned about RPLA’s guitarist, Peter Kinski, looking like a chicken.Today, when no one bats an eyelid at George Michael’s capers in the gents, when Elton John and David Furnish are treated with Chas and Di-style reverence, it seems inconceivable that RPLA caused such controversy.But the same people who criticised the metal press for failing to out Rob Halford before the Judas Priest frontman outed himself… wow, did they ever revel in Kerrang!’s discomfort.In their eyes, the macho world of metal had been well and truly breached. The ramparts had crumbled. Instead of pouring boiling oil on the interlopers we were welcoming them with bunches of daffodils.What these people – notably NME journos eager to boost the value of their copies of Raymonde’s These Boots Were Made For Walking at Cheapo Cheapo’s – didn’t know was that Kerrang! gave RPLA the full-on front-cover treatment purely on the merits of their music.There was no hidden agenda, at least on my part. It didn’t bother me whether RPLA were gay, straight or rampant sheep-shaggers. They just made great sounds.Not that Kerrang! writer Chris Watts agreed with me. We sent Chris to review RPLA live and he was so appalled, he threw a pint of cider over James Maker’s head.Still, the dust eventually settled (and the cider got mopped up). Much to my surprise, Maker phoned me up one day and invited me out for a… nibble. We met at an Italian restaurant just around the corner from Kerrang!’s Carnaby Street HQ. All the time the singer wore a wry grin on his face. Slouching with distressed elegance in his chair, he quaffed copious amounts of expensive red wine – Italian Barolo, if memory serves – and didn’t eat a thing. He acted like a prize ponce. It was oddly gratifying, in a way.EMI’s big RPLA push fizzled out. It seemed that the company had been unaware of Maker’s sexual bent and had no idea of how to market a (here comes that phrase again) ‘gay heavy metal band’. After a handful of singles RPLA were dropped.RPLA’s one and only album, Metal Queen Hijack, emerged in 1994 via a label called Collision Arts. I only became aware of this fact recently; I assumed it had never been released officially.Fast-forward to the present day. I was boarding the loft of my house the other weekend (glamorous rock’n’roll lifestyle, eh?!) when I came across a bin-liner lying between the rafters. The bag had split down the middle and dozens of old-fashioned cassettes had spewed out.One in particular caught my eye. Copied in Real Time by Maria Gordon at Abbey Road Studios on July 28, 1993. NR Dolby B. EQ Chrome. BASF CRSII C-60 Tape.It was a pre-release copy of Metal Queen Hijack by RPLA. I hadn’t heard it in years.But I had no means of playing it… or had I? Suddenly I remembered I’ve still got an old-fashioned cassette player lodged in the dashboard of my car. (Like Alec Issigonis, I never play music while driving. The late Issigonis, who created the original Mini, intentionally left no space for a radio to be installed in his Mini design.)I clambered down from the loft, tore like a madman out of the front door and on to the driveway. I whipped open the door of my car, whacked in the crusty cassette and cranked the volume up to the max.I prayed the cassette was still playable. And it was.The neighbours howled in disbelief when they heard RPLA’s call to arms:“’ERE, RUBE! YOU AND SYLV’ GET ON THE MIC AND GIVE US A BELTER!”Then the title track began, our Cult Hero bellowing triumphantly: “Metal Queen Hijack, stole your front cover…”But no regrets, Mr Maker. None whatsoever.* To find out what James Maker is up to know, visit www.jamesmaker.com* Check out these videos to RPLA’s songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0rRBcsnuoUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz50G_jLmPk&feature=relatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixuxHOw_M4&feature=related
Morrissey’s best china, who apparently began his career as an exotic dancer in The Smiths before fronting bequiffed Mancunian popsters Raymonde, growing his hair long and reinventing himself as the hunky lead singer in a bunch of raging ratbag rawkers called Red Patent Leather Angels (RPLA).
But that’s exactly what happened.
James Maker, come on down.
I remember visiting the offices of EMI Records one time at the beginning of the 1990s and being played a demo of RPLA’s song The Absolute Queen Of Pop.
It sounded like The Cult (Electric era) pummelling their way through a cover of David Bowie’s Rebel Rebel – and I loved it to bits. (Absolute Queen Of Pop is rumoured to be about Morrissey but this has, to the best of my knowledge, never been confirmed.)
Way back then we used to give away flexi-discs with Kerrang! magazine. Strange as it may seem today, they were a popular gift and used to boost our circulation substantially. In February 1991 we decided to include The Absolute Queen Of Pop on one of these flexis, along with tracks from Thunder and a long-forgotten combo by the name of Sweet Addiction.
Kerrang!’s flexis used to be released via imaginary record companies. In this particular case our made-up label was called Bendynoize, the catalogue number of RPLA’s flexi being BENDER 1.
In all honesty, we didn’t know what was about to happen.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kerrang-flexi.jpg
A few months later, in May, ahead of a big marketing push by EMI, we put RPLA on Kerrang!’s cover; photo shoot by Ross Halfin and everything.
Publishing company Emap had just acquired Kerrang! for big bucks and the execs were hesitant about giving RPLA such major coverage. But new bands had been a staple of Kerrang! since its inception 10 years previous. So I told the managing director, Tom Moloney, not to sweat.
RPLA, I insisted breathlessly, were heading for great things.
Unbeknown to me, Moloney was something of a secret rocker and went to check out RPLA when they played London’s Marquee club. He burst into the Kerrang! office the next morning and barked: “They’re the worst band I’ve ever seen!” (I think this may have hastened my departure from Kerrang!’s hallowed halls.)
The jockstrap well and truly unravelled shortly afterwards. RPLA frontman James Maker told the world – well, anyone who would listen, at any rate – that he was homosexual. Kerrang!, somehow, became a laughing stock for unwittingly putting a ‘gay heavy metal band’ on its cover.
You’d have thought Ross Halfin, in particular, would have been apoplectic with rage. But, strangely, I remember him taking it all in his stride. In fact, Ross was more concerned about RPLA’s guitarist, Peter Kinski, looking like a chicken.
Today, when no one bats an eyelid at George Michael’s capers in the gents, when Elton John and David Furnish are treated with Chas and Di-style reverence, it seems inconceivable that RPLA caused such controversy.
But the same people who criticised the metal press for failing to out Rob Halford before the Judas Priest frontman outed himself… wow, did they ever revel in Kerrang!’s discomfort.
In their eyes, the macho world of metal had been well and truly breached. The ramparts had crumbled. Instead of pouring boiling oil on the interlopers we were welcoming them with bunches of daffodils.
What these people – notably NME journos eager to boost the value of their copies of Raymonde’s These Boots Were Made For Walking at Cheapo Cheapo’s – didn’t know was that Kerrang! gave RPLA the full-on front-cover treatment purely on the merits of their music.
There was no hidden agenda, at least on my part. It didn’t bother me whether RPLA were gay, straight or rampant sheep-shaggers. They just made great sounds.
Not that Kerrang! writer Chris Watts agreed with me. We sent Chris to review RPLA live and he was so appalled, he threw a pint of cider over James Maker’s head.
Still, the dust eventually settled (and the cider got mopped up). Much to my surprise, Maker phoned me up one day and invited me out for a… nibble. We met at an Italian restaurant just around the corner from Kerrang!’s Carnaby Street HQ. All the time the singer wore a wry grin on his face. Slouching with distressed elegance in his chair, he quaffed copious amounts of expensive red wine – Italian Barolo, if memory serves – and didn’t eat a thing. He acted like a prize ponce. It was oddly gratifying, in a way.
EMI’s big RPLA push fizzled out. It seemed that the company had been unaware of Maker’s sexual bent and had no idea of how to market a (here comes that phrase again) ‘gay heavy metal band’. After a handful of singles RPLA were dropped.
RPLA’s one and only album, Metal Queen Hijack, emerged in 1994 via a label called Collision Arts. I only became aware of this fact recently; I assumed it had never been released officially.
Fast-forward to the present day. I was boarding the loft of my house the other weekend (glamorous rock’n’roll lifestyle, eh?!) when I came across a bin-liner lying between the rafters. The bag had split down the middle and dozens of old-fashioned cassettes had spewed out.
One in particular caught my eye. Copied in Real Time by Maria Gordon at Abbey Road Studios on July 28, 1993. NR Dolby B. EQ Chrome. BASF CRSII C-60 Tape.
It was a pre-release copy of Metal Queen Hijack by RPLA. I hadn’t heard it in years.
But I had no means of playing it… or had I? Suddenly I remembered I’ve still got an old-fashioned cassette player lodged in the dashboard of my car. (Like Alec Issigonis, I never play music while driving. The late Issigonis, who created the original Mini, intentionally left no space for a radio to be installed in his Mini design.)
I clambered down from the loft, tore like a madman out of the front door and on to the driveway. I whipped open the door of my car, whacked in the crusty cassette and cranked the volume up to the max.
I prayed the cassette was still playable. And it was.
The neighbours howled in disbelief when they heard RPLA’s call to arms:
“’ERE, RUBE! YOU AND SYLV’ GET ON THE MIC AND GIVE US A BELTER!”
Then the title track began, our Cult Hero bellowing triumphantly: “Metal Queen Hijack, stole your front cover…”
But no regrets, Mr Maker. None whatsoever.
* To find out what James Maker is up to know, visit www.jamesmaker.com
* Check out these videos to RPLA’s songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0rRBcsnuoUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz50G_jLmPk&feature=relatedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ixuxHOw_M4&feature=related
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)
I just noticed
Kerrang!’s flexis used to be released via imaginary record companies. In this particular case our made-up label was called Bendynoize, the catalogue number of RPLA’s flexi being BENDER 1.In all honesty, we didn’t know what was about to happen.
Is it wrong to snigger at that?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)
Stryper are to release a covers album in the autumn – and it’s got the cunning title of The Covering.The Christian rockers will include the following classics:Judas Priest – Breaking The LawIron Maiden – The TrooperScorpions – BlackoutOzzy Osbourne – Over The MountainSweet – Set Me FreeVan Halen – On FireDeep Purple – Highway StarBlack Sabbath – Heaven And HellUFO – Lights OutKansas – Carry On Wayward SonKiss – Shout It Out Loud
The Christian rockers will include the following classics:
Judas Priest – Breaking The Law
Iron Maiden – The Trooper
Scorpions – Blackout
Ozzy Osbourne – Over The Mountain
Sweet – Set Me Free
Van Halen – On Fire
Deep Purple – Highway Star
Black Sabbath – Heaven And Hell
UFO – Lights Out
Kansas – Carry On Wayward Son
Kiss – Shout It Out Loud
Who will be reviewing that for Decibel?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
Black metal geeks, are there any essential 2010 BM records I need to buy that aren't in the following list of stuff I've already purchased?
Castevet, The Howling Wind, Ludicra, Nachtmystium, Twilight, Watain
All of those records are still pretty much in my queue, which shows how far behind I am, but I don't mind making the queue even longer. Thanks in advance guys!
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
Think I'll wait to next year to get into Death Metal, tbh. This year it's all black metal and other random stuff, including more accessible things like Baroness.
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
depends on whether you want tr00 kvlt black metal or the kind the rest of us like ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
If its the latter then Liturgy, Krallice, Wolves In The Throne Room all had releases in 2009/2010, but many will tell you BM's glory days were in the early 90s, so perhaps best not to limit yourself to 2010.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)
Cobalt - Gin.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks! I have last year's Krallice and Wolves In The Throne Room in the queue. Cobalt too. I also have some of the Norwegian stuff: Burzum, Emperor, and Darkthrone.
More or less just looking for anything else that's come out this year -- whether tr00 or not -- that I haven't already picked up yet. For some reason, I've decided to try to "keep up" with black metal, at least for now, which is kind of funny considering how I've barely gotten around to most of what I've purchased so far. Need to hunker down and start listening.
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
As for 2010 black metal, I'm really enjoying the new Nightbringer album.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)
I read about that somewhere! Probably in Decibel. Maybe I'll head over to the record store to see if they have it later today. Thanks Adrien!
The other thing I'm really looking forward to, which I'm fairly sure is coming out later this month, is the new Yakuza. Have never heard of them before like a week ago--again, might've heard of 'em first from the review in dB--but I'm definitely interested in hearing this one.
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 18:26 (fifteen years ago)
Xasthur has a new album, too.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:30 (fifteen years ago)
Avoid RPLA though, I just played those youtubes and fucking hell, horrible cult tribute stuff (and i like The Cult). I wasnt reading kerrang when the controversy started but people were still talking about it in the mag etc for years after, but I had no idea what they sounded like. And the answer is - AWFUL!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
Hey Adrien, how did you know the Yakuza was going to get such a high score from me? Did the editors tell you, or did you just assume?
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)
Ah, that was your review! Well, it'll sell at least one copy for the band.
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)
ilxor, thanks for reminding me! definitely need to grab the Xasthur/Nadler record
heh, i just got an email from profoundlore about yakuza as i was reading that
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)
Profound Lore is honored to announce that we will be releasing the new full-length album from Pacific Northwest dark metal band AGALLOCH.Profound Lore and Agalloch already have a history that goes as far back to the label’s beginnings when we released the original vinyl versions of “Pale Folklore” and “The Mantle” respectively. The band are currently in intense preparation to enter the studio in their hometown of Portland, Oregon and will be spending the entire months of June and July recording the much-anticipated follow-up to 2006’s “Ashes Against The Grain”. There is currently no concrete release date to be announced yet. But in time, said details will eventually be revealed.
Profound Lore and Agalloch already have a history that goes as far back to the label’s beginnings when we released the original vinyl versions of “Pale Folklore” and “The Mantle” respectively. The band are currently in intense preparation to enter the studio in their hometown of Portland, Oregon and will be spending the entire months of June and July recording the much-anticipated follow-up to 2006’s “Ashes Against The Grain”. There is currently no concrete release date to be announced yet. But in time, said details will eventually be revealed.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)
Just bought the new Nightbringer and Bathory's Under The Sign Of The Black Mark, the latter for a little bit of much-needed perspective.
― ksh, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)
To see what will be one of the main inspirations for the new Agalloch album, go here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFmu7BYbthY
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)
Well, I'd had the album for quite some time and have been so blown away by it, I figured the dB review couldn't be anything but glowing. It's one of my faves of the year so far, and I'm glad I was able to do a full-page piece on the band. They deserve it.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 11 June 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)
fuckin' love Agalloch.
― Simon H., Friday, 11 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
I lolled @ this blog name http://reigninblonde.com/
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
http://reigninblonde.com/post/686742608/reign-in-blondes-best-of-2010-so-far
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 11 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
If you like metal and statistics, I will now destroy your productivity for the week:
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=Metal-Index
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)
omg
― ksh, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
bookmarking this, thanking you immensely
― ksh, Monday, 14 June 2010 16:57 (fifteen years ago)
glenn, that's awesome!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 June 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
so I'm listening to this thing by Zombie Death Stench, The Redeadening - it's an attempt to fuse Goblin/Zombi-style giallo synth jams with beery rockin'-style death metal. They do the synth side better than the death side imo but it's totally worth investigating, v. enjoyable listen.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
so Zombi Death Stench then?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:00 (fifteen years ago)
I think that is why the word "Zombie" is in their name, yes.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
So have any of you Pacific Northwwest dudes heard Christian Mistress? Their new six song CD (on 20 Buck Spin) is knocking me out. Dead-on, slightly ramshackle but earnest NWOBHM (think Girlschool and Tank) with a killer female vocalist who songs in a raspy, dusky voice that gives it a really unique touch. Actually she reminds me of Rough Cutt's Paul Shortino, he sung the same way. Anyway, they have no MySpace, but a track can be heard here:
http://stereogum.com/399492/christian-mistress-home-in-the-sun-stereogum-premiere/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
anyone heard aerial ruin CDR?
― ...Funtown. (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 23:45 (fifteen years ago)
"Symphonic Black Metal" sounds like exactly my kind of thing, but: Carach Angren, ugh.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
The Fall Into Darkness DVD looks really, really good after a quick run-through. Nate, is there a tracklisting posted anywhere?
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
ok i need to hear this zombie death stench thing obv
― ULTRAMAN dat ho (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
Just came back from The Dillinger Escape Plan @ Het Bolwerk, Sneek (NL). Man, they really tore up the place. In fact, I can't sleep now, still on a rush...
― Marty Innerlogic, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:38 (fifteen years ago)
Hey guys I'm at Scion music conference typing on an iPhone so bear with me.
1). Christian Mistress rules. Great friends. Xtine has sung a Witch Mountain tune live with us before Uta got involved. You can catch CM live at my next Fall into Darkness fest in Oct.2) Aerial Ruin is Erik Moggridge (ex-Old Grandad, current Sub Arachnoid Space). It's gorgeos stuff & he opened last year's Fall into Darkness.3) I can get you a DVD track listing if you email me.
Cheers everyone!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 17 June 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)
2) i just asked if anyone knows where to get this CDR
does anyone?
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Thursday, 17 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)
Decrepit Birth's Polarity has some pretty stellar tech death on it, but man, the production is incredibly distracting. The drums sound like crap.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't heard that one yet. The new Kataklysm, though, is surprisingly good. Sounds like the swagger of that Ex Deo album rubbed off on the band.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 17 June 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
awww, that's a bummer about the new decrepit birth. loved the last one.
― original bgm, Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:42 (fifteen years ago)
I liked the last Decrepit Birth album, too, and will hold on to my optimism about the new one until/unless I determine experimentally that it sounds like crap to me, too.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 17 June 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
that's a good way to be.
― original bgm, Friday, 18 June 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not saying the music is crap. The music is excellent. The production is just crap.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 18 June 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
2) Dear Roxy: erikmogg at gmail dot com
― Nate Carson, Friday, 18 June 2010 02:24 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going to see Isis's final NYC show tonight, and had some thoughts about listening to them and seeing them evolve over the last decade.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
ty nate!
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
man, "Stagnant Pond" by Ludicra is one of my songs of the year. just perfect. I need to hunker down and listen to the whole record, though. still don't think I've made it through, but that's mostly because I haven't been doing that with many records lately
― ksh, Saturday, 19 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
it's just ridiculous how good it is
No argument here. You see the exclusive live Fall into Darkness version on Youtube?
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 19 June 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)
Got my Fall Into Darkness DVD in the mail today - copy #5! Can't wait to get a chance to crank it up; sadly, it'll probably be a week or so as my Dad just arrived for a visit and he's not really much of a metal fan.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 19 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone else going to see the Big Four live at the cinema next Tuesday? I just found out about it this evening, looks like it could be a fun night rocking out in a comfortable chair.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 19 June 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
xxxpost to Nate
looks like they just have "In Stable" on YouTube :-(
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)
Oh maybe I got confused and Stagnant Pond is the clip from the DVD. I'll have to check on that and get back to you.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:42 (fifteen years ago)
― ksh, Sunday, 20 June 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
man, melvins killed at that nyc show phil mentioned. so tight.
isis were ok. I guess I just don't like them much live.
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:06 (fifteen years ago)
GODFLESH CONFIRMED FOR SUPERSONIC.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)
godflesh/swans - holy shit!
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoyed both Melvins and Isis Friday night, surprising myself. Full review on the Voice website tomorrow.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Isis were definitely better than when I saw them circa panopticon but I just find their quiet/loud material from the last few years a little formulaic and too samey for me to really get into in a live setting. Not bad, just nothing I would care to see again.
Not saying their older loud/LOUD material is any less formulaic. It's just more to my liking.
Loved the way the melvins set never let up. The first track off of lysol they closed with was crushing.
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)
Btw, nothing new, but I'm listening to witchcraft's alchemist record from a few years ago and actually just said, "man, this is so fuckin good" to myself, hah. This record and the new cathedral just nail the psych/metal/hard rock sound.
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)
And, as usual, I'm immensely jealous of you euros and your killer festivals. That gybe atp lineup is amazing as well.
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
has anybody heard this new album by Demontage? because it is FUCKING AWESOME. think I will write something about it soon. Shadow Kingdom Records can pretty much do no wrong right now imo
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)
Demontage reminds me of a lot of underground Canadian bands from the mid-80s. Wildly exuberant, capable of some really weird moments, and totally unclassifiable. Their new stuff is a lot of fun.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
man yeah that is right on. Like pre-Nothingface Voivod: who the hell was in that class at all? just these guys from far away, doing their own thing, carving out their own space. Demontage's choruses sound pratically PiL-style tonedeaf sometimes but still the band works. Added their new one to my 2010 year's-best after one listen.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)
Loved the way the melvins set never let up.
Man, you ain't kiddin'. In my review I described it as an endless two-man drum solo with occasional guitar and vocals. And I think the reason I liked Isis was that they only played seven songs, repped their entire catalog (that one song from Celestial stood out like a sore thumb with a burning road flare taped to it) and just kinda hit it and quit it. I'm curious if they played longer at the Williamsburg show the next night. I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 20 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
I also interviewed Buzz and Dale pre-show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GKA-oYOKNM
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 21 June 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
dudes, the new Yakuza is out tomorrow!
― ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)
i saw them last night and they were awesome! i would have bought some merch but i didn't have any $.
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Monday, 21 June 2010 14:29 (fifteen years ago)
Ooh, first-listen enthusiastic endorsement from me for the new Equilibrium, provided you don't object to their version of goofy anime-viking excess.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 21 June 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
One of the year's finest albums, that one!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 21 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
"Like pre-Nothingface Voivod: who the hell was in that class at all?"
Nope. But I would say pre-Angel Rat Voivod is more apt.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
So Shining (the Norwegian electro-death-jazz group) won the contest they were in to get a million kronor from A-Ha. In even better news, they're going to spend the money on a U.S. tour.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 21 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
whoa. how did one go about winning the contest?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)
People voted online.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 21 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)
Shining is unbelievable live, so it's great that they'll be coming over.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 21 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
They turned down the opening slot on the Enslaved tour this November. So good for them for finding a way to do this under their own steam.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 21 June 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
I don't hate the new Ozzy album. In fact, I kinda like it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 01:34 (fifteen years ago)
So who wins between the new Ozzy, Rob Zombie, and Danzig? Somehow, I'm guessing that Danzig album is the best of the 3, but I've heard none of the above...
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
For me, it goes Zombie, Danzig, Ozzy. The Danzig album is really good - his best since #3. But it's got some weak tracks here and there. The Zombie disc is a stripped-down, raw version of his usual sound, but all the songs fit together so well that if there's a bad one it just blends into the album as a whole, and there are some really great ones on there.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 01:45 (fifteen years ago)
that ozzy album sounds so depressing
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't heard the new Danzig, I haven't been really interested in his stuff since 1988. But maybe I should give it a shot.
I like the Zombie album more than Ozzy's. Scream has some good moments (I really like four or five tracks), but it's still too overproduced, too dumbed down, too much autotune on Ozzy's voice. And it's disappointing how underutilized Gus G is, I thought he might bring some of the riffs and shredding that he's done so well with Firewind (a band I genuinely like), but instead he's just a hired hand rather than collaborator, playing a bunch of boring, C-grade Disturbed riffs that the far more pedestrian Churko tosses his way.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)
I love Danzig 4P.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)
you love danzig in exhange for urine?
― LOS CATIOS (latebloomer), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
(sorry)
― LOS CATIOS (latebloomer), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)
looooool
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:08 (fifteen years ago)
I can't believe people are excited about a Sleep reunion. Sleep were not that good, people. They wrote one decent riff, for "Dragonaut," and sunk it with mediocre execution. And Dopesmoker? If an hour-long concept album about how much the band who made it likes to smoke pot doesn't make you hate them, I don't think I want to be your friend. I do not understand this nostalgia for mediocre juvenilia. High on Fire are fifty times the band Sleep ever dreamed of being. I don't begrudge Pike and Cisneros taking the money, but why anyone would want to see this is utterly beyond me.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)
I don't know how to break this to you but everybody loves Dopesmoker
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)
yeah sleep really brought down the level of discourse in metal....
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:32 (fifteen years ago)
well I preferred it when it was called Jerusalem
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, 'jerusalem' is definitely a heavier and thus better title.
― cb, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)
If an hour-long concept album about how much the band who made it likes to smoke pot doesn't make you hate them, I don't think I want to be your friend.
you're harshing my buzz
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:03 (fifteen years ago)
anyway, I don't love sleep but jerusalem/dopesmoker is a total classic.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)
if we can't ban unperson can we at least ban him from this thread
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
or just call him banperson
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, I greatly prefer High on Fire to Sleep as well.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
got the new Yakuza at Newbury Comics -- looking forward to digging in soon
― ksh, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)
I want to see Sleep because I foolishly skipped seeing them back when I last had the chance. They came through town with Hawkwind on the Holy Mountain tour and I snobbed them off because I thought they were exactly as Phil describes them.
Over time, I have developed an appreciation for them, particularly Volume One and the Asbestos Death stuff. I agree that Holy Mountain and Dopesmoker/Jerusalem are over-rated albums. But that doesn't mean they're worthless.
And anyway, I'm curious to see how they sound with Jason from Neurosis on drums. Al claims that Jason can play things that Sleep wrote, that Chris was never able execute. Sounds like sour grapes, but there's no doubt that Jason is a total pro.
And in Portland, the show is Sleep/Scott Kelly/YOB. So everyone here will get there money's worth in the first 40 minutes ;)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
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I do too. You may be able to turn unperson on Sleep, he used to hate the Melvins too.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)
"I do not understand this nostalgia for mediocre juvenilia. "
And as for that statement, I don't think you can be a heavy metal journalist and not understand nostalgia for mediocre juvenilia ;)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)
Al claims that Jason can play things that Sleep wrote, that Chris was never able execute.
Don't buy this for a second.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)
just subscribed to Decibel too \(^o^)/
― ksh, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)
Haven't previewed the Yakuza yet, but I might buy it unheard. A lot of the more interesting releases have passed through the mastering knobs of my friend Collin's Boiler Room Mastering, including Nachtmystium (he texted earlier this year - "Dude, it's industrial!"), Yakuza, Twilight (supergroup of members of Nacht, Isis, Minsk, Leviathan, etc., not the movie soundtrack), upcoming Zoroaster album, etc. Keep an eye out for The Swan King later in the year. I think they're in the studio with Sanford Parker now.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:54 (fifteen years ago)
That new Zoroaster album is a lot better than I was expecting.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
I'm curious to know if Unperson's sniffiness about drug albums extends to, say, Satan albums or albums about, just, y'know, rocking or albums about supernatural shit. I mean forget Sabbath and Slayer for starters. Does he extend the same lack of courtesy to, say, Dopethrone by Electric Wizard? Sweetleaf by Sabbath...
I saw Sleep back in the day and saw them play the fans ATP the other year. I can't remember them first time round but they were astounding in Minehead. Some of my learned colleagues were in tears at how good it was. I just didn't buy the T-shirt because it was covered in massive pot leaves.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
And the new Yakuza is a massive disappointment.
Yeah, the new Zoroaster is really good - especially compared with the lameness of their last one.
Re drug songs, "Sweet Leaf" is the worst song on any of the first six Black Sabbath albums, and it's not just because of the lyrics; it's because the riff is static and up-and-down like a pile-driver, totally lacking the groove their best stuff has. I "extend the same lack of courtesy" to Dopethrone because it's not as good as Come My Fanatics.... Why my "sniffiness" would logically extend to songs about Satan or anything else, I'm not quite sure. "I smoke pot - impressed?" is a particular kind of dumb, and has been at the root of a fucking ton of really, really bad music. I don't care how much pot you smoke offstage (or how much of any other drug you choose to ingest); I just don't wanna hear about it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
wait a minute - "sweet leaf" is lacking in groove?!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)
I just involuntarily started nodding my head just thinking about that riff!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:39 (fifteen years ago)
I mean, different strokes for different folks, but I disagree 100%
I got a lot of respect for unperson but the idea that the sweet leaf riff is anything less than A+ riff would bang head again is completely insane & almost everyone who likes metal is in the pro-sweet leaf camp iirc
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:41 (fifteen years ago)
It's a great riff; I'm talking about the relative groove and (to use an even better word) swing in the rhythm section (Butler/Ward) vs. other Sabbath songs ("Lord Of This World," "Children Of The Grave," etc.).
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
personal least fave from the first six:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCCbbwFc1kE
I don't want to live in a world where people prefer that to "sweet leaf"
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:54 (fifteen years ago)
I'll concede that you may have been exaggerating for maximum challopsing ;-)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
Gah.
"Sweet Leaf" is the worst song on any of the first six Black Sabbath albums
GAH.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:57 (fifteen years ago)
But I will agree that Sabbath was indeed at its best when Ward and Geezer had that swing going, no question.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)
I have a lot of respect for Unperson as well which is why I'm disappointed to be getting a 'grow up' vibe off him. Seriously, if you're going to diss metal because of a perceived lack of sophistication then you're on thin ice as any kind of self-professed metal fan.
I mean, I know I'm talking to a fan of 'Orgasmatron' for starters right?
And nice way to duck the question... do you think 'Dopethrone' is A) childish and unsophisticated or B) a motherfucking kick ass album.
(I know which way your commissioning editor at WIRE would vote on this by the way, as he introduced me to it.)
Apply this rule to the max and you're probably left with Opeth and Dillinger Escape Plan... which, while they're both great bands, doesn't sound like much fun to me.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
I'm being slightly more confrontational than I intended here actually. I mean, as much as I believe everything I've said, there are worse things than not liking Sleep I guess, it's just I personally find the new age posturing of Om much more childish.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)
dopethrone is little bit of both A and B, really.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)
I am not "diss(ing) metal because of a perceived lack of sophistication." I am saying "songs about smoking pot are dumb. Hour-long songs about smoking pot are really dumb." Can you honestly not perceive any difference between the two?
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
I'm dropping out of this thread with bong in hand and getting some actual work done
― original bgm, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)
yeah unperson I would argue strongly that you cannot reasonably make a blanket statement that resembles "songs about _______ are dumb." and moreover that unlikely subjects for songs is a big part of metal's appeal.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
But songs about smoking pot are hardly "unlikely." They're horrifyingly common. And with that, I too will retire from the field, because this is a huge blind spot of mine, to the point that no argument, however meritorious, will get anything out of me but "shut it, hippie," but it's a blind spot that I recognize and keep out of my formal criticism.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
Who Are You or Am I Going Insane are probably my least favorite from the first six Sabbath. I think Ozzy was the sole writer of both, so there you go. To have Sweet Leaf in the mix is a total shame, that is just one of the most fucking heavy riffs of all time.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
What about songs about other drugs? Do you like Snowblind? you can't dislike that song
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)
I've never smoked dope in my life but man i love Dopesmoker (smithy & I shall agree to disagree over Jerusalem & Dopesmoker)
I have a tape somewhere with an interview with sleep on some cable radio show that you could get via cable radio via blueyonder way back in the late 90s. You only got it for a few years but i found a couple of terrific radio stations, one was Solar FM which had a fantastic funk show on a friday night and there was a metal station. It was Matt Pike & Al I think discussing the album being made,Signing & being dropped by London records . all of this while they played the entire album in the background. I wish I could find that tape.That's how I discovered Sleep.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
I'm one of those dummies who didn't know about Sleep until that gargantuan "Dragonaut" riff played in Gummo.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
Hour-long songs about smoking pot are really dumb.
See, this is one of those statements that I would have totally been on board with about seven years ago. Even now, on paper, that makes tons of sense. But when it comes to Sleep, I just can't agree at all.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)
Hour long songs about smoking pot are fantastic when you are smoking pot during that hour.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
But I don't want to pile on unperson just yet, I'm going to wait until the new Ozzy that I bought because of him fails to live up to my expectations (they are pretty low though). Actually between my work discount and a gift card I had, it only ended up costing me two bucks so I think that it should live up to the cost.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)
Funny thing is, I don't smoke pot but I listen to a lot of music that might indicate otherwise.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
it's just wacky to me that this of all threads is where i have to be like who really gives a fuck abt lyrical content
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that's about right.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 23:06 (fifteen years ago)
how is it possible that the rolling metal thread is the place where multiple dudes are like "i don't smoke weed at all ever," I have woke up in bizarro land
some of you guys haven't really ever actually heard cathedral, lemme just tell you that ok
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
"i don't smoke weed at all ever,"
lol didn't say this exactly, just not my thing really
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
not really mine much either, once you're grown you're either full time functional stoner or only once in a blue moon in my experience, but I dunno this is a whole separate topic but given the prevalence of weed in both the making & the hearing of metal, its reach throughout the whole spectrum, I dunno like I can't imagine if I hadn't listened to metal high not wondering "what does it sound like to, y'know, so many of the people who're into it?"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
I personally resent the suggestion that I cant appreciate a bands music if i haven't taken illegal drugs.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)
I don't think thats what aerosmith is really saying there though.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)
Oh really? You sure about that?
What else do you think he is saying?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:58 (fifteen years ago)
1st time I saw High on Fire Matt Pike's first words to the audience: "Hi, we're High on Fire, we're from Oakland. Y'all high or drunk or stoned or...something? Ok, good."
You can enjoy it plenty, but I mean a lot of doom is made by stoned people for stoned people. That doesn't mean you're "not allowed" or whatever think you're prepared to accuse me of but whether you're able to hear it the way its creators did, if you have zero familiarity at all with that mindset? I would say no, you kind of can't conceive of how it sounded to the people who wrote it, and that doesn't really seem to me a particularly wild thing to say -- seems kind of obvious.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
Nevermind pfunk, apparently I was wrong. Guess its time to go trash all my Steely Dan records since I can't possibly conceive of their true intentions, having never snorted coke.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)
I think aerosmith's making a lot of sense here tbh
― ksh, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
in other news, if you listen to music in Spanish but you don't speak any Spanish, you are getting something very different out of it than people who speak Spanish are
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
that being said, I'm about to find out what its like to listen to Yakuza while eating crackers with jelly, will report back if I feel like my eating was integral to the experience
― ksh, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
"Hour long songs about smoking pot are fantastic when you are smoking pot during that hour."
Dopesmoker is my least favorite Sleep record, but I agree with the above statement 100%.
Also, I will once again say that ALL music is stoner rock. I don't think there's a record that doesn't sound better when you're high.
And btw, I'm in the "grown up/functional" category that J0hn referred to. Doesn't keep me from working on this shit 70+ hours/week.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)
Nah I was being facetious with my Steely Dan comment, I see what he's getting at.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)
And I don't think anyone is trying to belittle the straight edge folks here. You can enjoy Cathedral AS MUCH as a stoned person. But definitely not IN THE SAME way. I think that's the point J0hn is making. And he's right.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)
yeah that's kind of all I'm saying
I love Houston screwed n chopped stuff but I don't doubt that a lot of the people who dig it hear it on levels I can't get to because I am just not gonna get way high on cough syrup
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:10 (fifteen years ago)
Totally get this. In fact, I treat this as a positive a whole lot - I love listening to music in languages I don't speak, because it makes potentially boneheaded/cringeworthy lyrics (which, as someone who makes a living w/words, bothers me more than others, I bet) a non-issue. As far as the whole drug thing, I agree that listening to music made by stoners for stoners without being myself stoned is a totally different, and even in some ways distanced, experience, but it's the one I prefer. I smoked pot and took acid and drank when I was in high school, but I soon figured out that I couldn't write when I was drunk or high, and I chose writing. End of story.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
Just finished listen to the Ozzy, totally would have paid up to $5 for this. I kinda like it. First solo full-length I've heard since Ozzmosis though.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)
Probably in the minority of one here, but if you still somehow have a taste for Isis inspired post-metal - you could do worse than the forthcoming Gifts From Enola record on The Mylene Sheath.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:21 (fifteen years ago)
I can't smoke pot for various reasons and I find that Sleep and plenty of other bands such as Ascend or ASVA or UFOmammut or Overmars amongst many others transport me, temporarily, into a different contemplative state.
And this is a general point and not at all going on at Unperson (anyone who wants to stick it to the hippies is a friend of mine) but no matter how clumsy and juvenile, Sleep were getting more toward a concept of getting stoned as part of a ritual rather than just getting fucked up. I had the privilege of interviewing Alan Moore recently and he talked a lot about combining taking magic mushrooms with magic ritual and how it changed the experience entirely. I'd say that listening to Dopesmoker at least leans towards this and is at least, definably not 'Because I Got High'.
I can appreciate this idea, not because I believe in magic or have any particular spiritual beliefs but because speaking as a recovering thirsty person and chaotic and remorseless substance abuser it would have been nice to been introduced to all this stuff not at the age of 13 as a means of putting myself in a void but as something else more positive and structured.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 06:30 (fifteen years ago)
The 40 Best Metal Albums of 2010, So Far (sez me)...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)
actual lol
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:12 (fifteen years ago)
Good list Unperson... but where's Blood Of The Black Owl!?
There's a lot of stuff on there I need to check out.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)
very curious about that new defeatist. if you'd care to expand, is it more of the same or a step up, phil?
glad to see the misery index album on there too. it's gotten a pretty lukewarm reception but I always have some time for these world downfall-worshipers. will definitely give that one a whirl too.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
Much like this thread, I would like to get back into metal, having enjoyed the latest Sigh and Sunn O))) albums, however I feel a bit like someone who missed a season of Lost and now has no clue what's going on... Someone name me one album that has blown your mind in the last ooh, two years or summat please?
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)
cathedral, the guessing game
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
No Black Breath, Phil? One of the year's more immediately gratifying albums, that one.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)
Nah, didn't much care for Black Breath. I could hear what they were trying to do, but they didn't succeed, for me anyway.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)
Lair of the Minotaur's Evil Power is another that falls into the nothing-new-but-totally-fun category for me. That and Black Breath have been a blast.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
Why bother counting the albums if you don't rank 'em? Why not just say, an alphabetical list of some metal albums? I'd be more interested in what your actual few favorites are.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
Dog Latin: Cathedral's new album is amazing. Over recent years albums by Dillinger, Converge, SunnO))), Slayer, Cobalt, UFOmammut, High on Fire, Gnaw Their Tongues, Blood Of The Black Owl, Hey Colossus, Part Chimp, Overmars, Arabrot (I Rove, not the album), Harvey Milk, Greymachine, The Shining, Zu, Black Breath, ASVA, Ascend and Admiral Angry have all had great albums out.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:44 (fifteen years ago)
dismissing others' doing something because you did it in high school is the most high school thing to do in the world
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)
Dog Latin , if you trust the judgement of ILXors, then tryILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW)
and
!!!!!!!! ILX METAL ALBUMS of 2009 POLL RESULTS!!!!!! (FINAL RESULTS NOW IN! LISTENING TO THESE ALBUMS WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER FRAIL INTERNET PERSON!)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
Oh shit yeah, Shrinebuilder...
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
LISTENING TO THESE ALBUMS WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER FRAIL INTERNET PERSON!
Always good for a lol.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
You can thank mod JJ for that
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
Let's see. Just in case it makes anybody feel less alone, I have never listened to anything while stoned, but I love "Sweet Leaf" and Cathedral, and think Sleep is boring. And sleep, for that matter.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)
Just want to shout a big THANK YOU to everyone one here that gave nice press to the Fall into Darkness 2009 DVD. You know who you are and I appreciate you :)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 19:46 (fifteen years ago)
You're welcome!
http://www.hellbound.ca/2010/06/fall-into-darkness-2009-dvd/
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:03 (fifteen years ago)
dog latin: my standard recommendation is Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II - Dialogue With The Stars (from last year). i've fallen harder for it than just about anything over the last few years.
and since I know you're into electronic music, that recommendation goes double. I think you might really get off on the trance-inducing qualities this album brings out. some gorgeous melodies too.
the aforementioned cathedral and witchcraft's the alchemist are also quite good if you dig psych and/or prog.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
man i gotta get back to that blut aus nord album, i liked it a lot but it seemed really, like, specific
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:51 (fifteen years ago)
OK, wow, anybody who likes Wetnurse ought to at least check out the self-titled debut from Norway's Kvelertak. Big, crazed, shriek-punk sprints with old-school hard-rock production clarity and metal force. Only halfway through it, but it's already sounding like a best-of-the-year candidate. Might even be a bridge between my tastes and the Mastodon/Baroness/Harvey Milk camp where everybody but me seems to love hanging out making s'mores or whatever it is you people do there.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
Seriously, do it right now before we're hit by a meteor or something and it's too late. I don't know which half of you are going to be thanking me, but it's at least half. Kvelertak. John Baizley did the cover.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 21:08 (fifteen years ago)
Wetnurse comparison is enough for me! Will have to check that out. Thanks Glenn.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, that Kvelertak is one ripping album alright. Very, very impressed.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 24 June 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)
Recent posts make me want to get lifted and re-listen to stuff. If it weren't for the fact that none of my immediate friends do it lately and I have no easy access, I'd dedicate my weekend to the task. Maybe then I wouldn't care whether lists were ranked or not. Yar.
I think I might get more out of my new acquisitions this week in an altered state:Grand Magus - Hammer Of The North - Wobbles between power metal and stoner rock, nice but a little predictable.Black Cobra - Chronomega - Good propulsive, crunchy riffs, can take or leave the screamo vocals. Could be a metal offshoot from Amphetamine Reptile roster.Black Breath - Heavy Breathing - Again, not digging screamo vocals lately, but nice and fast. Watain - Lawless Darkness - I suppose it's an exceptional black metal album, but I quickly tire of most bm lately.Reckless didn't have Yakuza when I stopped in.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
I highlighted my personal Top Ten on that list, but I still didn't rank 'em in any kind of order.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
I heard the new Iron Maiden.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 June 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
are you allowed to talk about it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going to write at length about it as soon as the flippin' gag order ends. Which is still a couple weeks away.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 25 June 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
I'm still pulling together my thoughts. I don't believe I was given a gag order, so I will say that it feels a lot like Brave New World with the more complex song structures of A Matter of Life and Death. A couple stone cold classics on there, too.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)
You just made me really really un-excited.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 25 June 2010 03:51 (fifteen years ago)
debonerized
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:07 (fifteen years ago)
I'm still pretty excited.
oh yeah, and I thought the new ozzy album was depressing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSZrY9R7l4
:-/
― original bgm, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)
I'm looking forward to that Maiden disc. I like Brave New World and A Matter of Life and Death a lot.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)
^^^
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 25 June 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.relapse.com/MYSPACE/BTU/tusk_cookin.jpg
Black Tusk's Taste The Sin on Relapse is very satisfying.
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:16 (fifteen years ago)
new issue (was hoping for a Dio cover/tribute special--the bulk of the thing, that is; not the measly one/two page piece i presume lies therein):
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0037/0342/products/dB_cover_0810_large.jpg?1277247755
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)
Ioannis, RJD died a month and a half ago. Asking for a whole issue full of dedicated content in that space of time is a little unrealistic
the piece that's in it is cool and asks a number of musicians for Dio memories - obv. I have a horse in the Decibel race but really? "Not enough, he didn't get the cover"?
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
well, yeah, it isn't enough imo.
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)
still love this cover tho!
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)
I think it's a terrible cover. Decibel covers almost always are. I don't know what it is about them - the interior content is frequently terrific, but the covers are almost always lame.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)
Good idea, poor execution.
I almost always love Decibel covers. Don't think I'll get this one in the mail as my subscription apparently doesn't kick in until August, so I'll have to drop by the bookstore sooner than later to grab it once it's out.
― ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
the previous issue's cover was a beaut! cover of the year by me.
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)
The Watain one? For sure.
― ksh, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
yeah.
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)
danzig interview in that issue is pretty hilarious.
― original bgm, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)
and is this just a one-off cover? back to band pics next issue?
― original bgm, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
"Not enough, he didn't get the cover"?
It's disappointing. not enough to cancel a subscription over, but still a disappointment.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)
presumably, and I don't speak from any inside knowledge here or anything, it's comics related because Danzig is a big comics guy and somebody had the idea to do that.
I think an RIP cover would be a really bad standard to set, because then the next 100 people to die would inspire "what! [x] got the cover, surely [y] was more important than [x]!" etc which is a tedious fuckin place to hang out even for a hypothetical sentence
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)
Not everyone who dies will be of the status of DIO
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, but it's Dio. Sports Illustrated does RIP covers, and they pick and choose who is "important" enough to get one, John Wooden last week, Walter Payton etc. I'm sure Time does it with political leaders, etc. I don't think arguing about who is more important to something is tedious, it happens all the time, hundreds of times a day on these boards. Choosing who is going to be on a magazine cover, dead or not, is a weekly or monthly determination of who is important if you think about it.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
And yes, to the genre that Decibel covers, Dio is infinitely more important than Danzig.
I get why Decibel did the Danzig cover they did - I just wish they'd gotten a better artist to do it. That drawing looks like a fourteen-year-old did it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
Not everyone who dies will be of the status of insert name every time somebody dies after RIP cover precedent is set
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)
that's my opinion anyway & is why I was pleased to see a cool Danzig cover instead of a somber RIP A LEGEND HAS PASSED cover
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)
BTW, I agree with John - I don't think Dio should have gotten the cover. I think he deserved at least 5-6 pages, but he was old, he got sick, he died. End of story. Now, let's say Iron Maiden's jet crashes while they're flying around on tour - that's a cover.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, just to clarify, for me it's not even a case of who is/isn't important enough to get the cover of any given issue. but rather that Dio's untimely demise is the METAL story of the year (if not the past decade or two) for a sizable percentage of the aging metalhead contingent, i'd say. granted, i don't believe that Decibel really care to cater to my middle-aged kind. but this just seems almost like a slap in the face, you know. almost as if they're saying: "hey, kids. here's our great new Danzig feature issue. (and, oh yeah, also included is a piece on some old has-been who once sang for influential 'hard rockers' Black Sabbath. but now he's dead. so we may as well give the dude a nod, right?) buy or die!"
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm not wild about that cover, but then again, I'm not the biggest Danzig fan.
If you want to see a cool comic book-style cover, the new Revolver issues look unreal.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:23 (fifteen years ago)
They could do a limited edition issue or something. Im not in the print biz, so i am speaking from an amateur perspective.
"Now, let's say Iron Maiden's jet crashes while they're flying around on tour - that's a cover."
Only if they blot out Janick Gers and put a caricature of him in the top left corner.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)
I actually like Janick Gers, 'cause I'm not even convinced his guitar's plugged in half the time - I think he's just there to run around onstage.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
Heh. I've gotten used to the guy. He livens things up a little on stage left. Really nice dude, too.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
Just getting to hear the Kvelertak - holy shit, this is awesome! Completely up my alley - they've even got handclaps at the end of their first single, "Mjød". As with Glenn, this could be a bridge between me and the Barodon people; first listen and this is jumping right up near the top of my running list of the year's best. Massive in all the right ways, and it grooves like a mother.
Thanks for the heads up gentlemen! Anyone know if this is going to get a North American release, or am I dropping <$20 on another disc this year?
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)
for once i agree with unperson. decibel covers are by and large completely retarded
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)
I should have known it was Kurt Ballou who produced the Kvelertak. Probably the grooviest heavy album I've heard all year. What a blast, perfect for summer.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:26 (fifteen years ago)
i really liked the dio r.i.p. in decibel. lots of great fan stories and jeff girly metal treppel comes correct with a very nice tribute.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
streaming kvelertak now--this is fun! is that handclaps on the second track? awesome.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
xpost so many x's I can't be bothered
I didn't even get my last issue of Decibel. Lost in the post, maybe. That makes me sad.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
ok, if girly metal jeff wrote the Dio piece, then i already feel much better about it.
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Saturday, 26 June 2010 05:26 (fifteen years ago)
and, yeah, the kvelertak disc is a hoot.
― "enduring lack of street cred" (Ioannis), Saturday, 26 June 2010 05:28 (fifteen years ago)
i think he means girly jeff wrote a part of it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:28 (fifteen years ago)
I wrote the obituary part. Not the quotes from artists part, obviously. Thanks for the kind words, Scott -- I tried to write something that capture just how important Dio was to me and metal in general, and I hope I succeeded.
Speaking of girly metal, keep your eyes peeled for a future issue of decibel...
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)
vote for some metal ILM Top 100 2005-2009: VOTING THREAD (Ends when June 29, 2010 is over in every timezone in the world.)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
wow! and youre still posting on last year's results thread
― (roxymuzak) ((((d-.-b)))) (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)
its not a metal poll. It's a general ILM half decade poll by johnny fever & jordan s. Which probably wont have much metal in it unless everyone here bothers to vote.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)
I voted for a couple "metal" albums...
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 28 June 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
Tame Impala doesn't count, dude
― ksh, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)
I've only listened to the Yakuza all the way through once so far, but I keep playing "Deluge" again and again -- what a closer
― ksh, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
it's really ok with me if no metal places on that poll
it's just a poll
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 28 June 2010 18:12 (fifteen years ago)
agreed
― ksh, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
I belatedly heard Black Tusk. I kept confusing them with the other similarly named Black Breath and Black Cobra. And really to someone who doesn't know any of those bands, they sound sort of similar too, particularly Black Cobra and Black Tusk. They should all tour together and really confuse the hell out of people. I'd enjoy that show. None more Black \m/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 June 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)
ksh, smithy hates polls. despises them. would love to ban them. would love to eradicate poll lovers from the earth.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 June 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
Enjoyed the new Danzig. Is his 2004 album worth hearing too?
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)
I heard 777 on a drive to Seattle this weekend and it sounded ok.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 28 June 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
Just tried to listen to an EP by some band called Sicarus; new on Century Media. Metalcore + power metal vocals = suck.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 02:34 (fifteen years ago)
777 is pretty good. If you can get past the Marilyn Manson bandwagons single, there's some great stuff on there. The one from 2004, Circle of Snakes, is his failed attempt to go for a more stripped down garage rock sound. He failed.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:24 (fifteen years ago)
this thread is always so hard to keep up with!
― obvious and old and bannable (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)
Fastnbulbous: I became partially tumescent at the thought of such a tour. For it would be righteous.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 08:55 (fifteen years ago)
http://stereogum.com/419851/mastodon-indian-theme-stereogum-premiere/mp3s/
― ksh, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
Maiden tonight. Wooooo.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
St. Vitus here tonight.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
Vitus was incredible. One of the best reunions I've seen.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:46 (fifteen years ago)
Besides Iron Maiden, Zoroaster, possible Torche EP, what upcoming heavy releases are people excited about? I think it's about time for some new Gojira but haven't heard any news that they're working on anything yet. What else?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:33 (fifteen years ago)
New Electric Wizard at some point, and Caïna is working on a new album though I'd be surprised to see it this year. Would love a new Witchcraft.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)
I'm still too new to the metal world to know what I should be anticipating right now. Still listening to the last track on the Yakuza record, tbh. Man.
― http://bit.ly/dwHthS (ksh), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:49 (fifteen years ago)
I also anticipate that the new issue of Decibel, which I snagged last night at the newsstand since my subscription doesn't kick in until August, will give me some leads!
― http://bit.ly/dwHthS (ksh), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:50 (fifteen years ago)
Agalloch, that's the one real biggie I'm awaiting.
Maiden was spectacular tonight. Three weeks ago Harris asked me if I was seeing the Dallas show and I said no, I was seeing them in three weeks. He said, "Great, it usually takes us two weeks to get our legs anyway." And it looks like he was right. No glitches whatsoever, a tight, tight show.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 05:29 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going into the studio with Agalloch on Saturday. Will see what possible info I can leak.
I am personally anticipating the new Enslaved, and Rush's Clockwork Angels.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going into the studio with Agalloch on Saturday. Will see what possible info I can leak.!!!not sure what else i'm anticipating either, but have been anticipating agalloch for what seems like an eternity
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:08 (fifteen years ago)
xxp- I wanna be pals with Steve Harris!
Glad to hear about Enslaved! Saw them open for Opeth last year. Opeth said they were taking a hiatus after their U.S. tour, though they continued to do European dates. I assume that means no albums for a few years too. I worry that Witchcraft is doing the same. Magnus Pellander put out a solo EP this year and is supporting that now. I was impressed by Graveyard last year, and their Myspace page says the new album is being mixed.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)
Can't believe I forgot the Agalloch! Very excited. Hope the recording goes well Nate.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:26 (fifteen years ago)
what upcoming heavy releases are people excited about?
I guess a new Severe Torture album came out this week, wouldn't mind hearin that
Kamelot album coming up
that's about it
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
Here are the major albums EM knows about that are due out in the next 120 days (updating dynamically):
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=Metal-Index&query=Upcoming+Major+Albums
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
that's pretty great, glenn.
wonder if the waking the cadaver's new slab of "Slamming Gore Groove" will up their avg score from 11.5
― original bgm, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)
i am now officially anticipating a new october tide album! just got an e-mail about it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)
I'm going to be reviewing the October tide, I'll post my thoughts when I get it.
You guys should be anticipating The Sword. Big step up from the last album. It's a sci-fi concept thing, in the vein of Slough Feg (both musically and conceptually).
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)
That is pretty darn exciting.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah J3ff - that sounds great. I want to like The Sword more than I do, so maybe crazy sci-fi Slough Feg style will do it.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)
OK, on the sometimes-female-fronted front, I just discovered the German semi-gothic band Mandrake, previously unknown to me despite having 5 albums. I'm going through them in order, and so far really pleased with everything (up through the beginning of Mary Celeste, which just started). I'd put them up there with Brave and Xandria as bands you should check out if you wish Lacuna Coil sounded less like Evanescence.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
New Blind Guardian is excellent as always.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)
^ Ooohhh!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)
Okay, I'm plenty envious of Jeff now.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)
I wouldn't have pegged you as a Blind Guardian guy, Nate.
Looks like they decided to go big and epic again. Production is less overkill than A Night at the Opera, thankfully. It just amazes me that they are consistently a level or two above everybody else.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:27 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, every time Blind Guardian puts a new album out they outclass their power metal peers. With so many trendier metal releases getting attention, I kept forgetting they have a new one coming out.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:40 (fifteen years ago)
I don't like much power metal, but Blind Guardian wins. You can't argue with quality like that.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:39 (fifteen years ago)
I got one of those "rock lullaby" CDs in today's mail, this one devoted to Black Sabbath. I'm listening to it now. It's not bad.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
http://stereogum.com/426131/torche-songs-for-singlese-album-info/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/
― Your review is so far outside the realms of reality (ksh), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
New Zoroaster vid on Stereogum
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)
Blown away by the Christian Mistress track on Stereogum. I've been watching them develop their act on stage, 7", and cassette. But this upcoming album from 20 Buck Spin just jumped to the top of my most anticipated of 2010.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
The Christian Mistress CD is so damn good. I just love their singer, she sounds like she should be Kim McAuliffe's daughter.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 July 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)
She was going to be Witch Mountain's singer for a minute. Then she moved to Olympia. Then we got Uta. All is balanced in the universe.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 July 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
Cat's out of the bag. My Maiden review has surfaced.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/jeffmetal/TFFreview.jpg
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 July 2010 23:54 (fifteen years ago)
I am not the "Jeffmetal" in the link above.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 July 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
I feel the need to say Bill Magill and Skot to threadI dunno why
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xidKY9MOr-M/TC3E3xO8tSI/AAAAAAAAAJg/kQtfp3KoZCM/s1600/774356395-1.jpg
I think sometimes our slab of daily Riff Rock doesnt have to be necessarily gloomy, dark, swampy or depressing. Sometimes all it needs is to be rockin' and, why not, even funny.Biggus Diccus are funny. But, beware, they're far from being a simple joke band. Their music is finely sculpted: pure muscular Riff Rock. Heavy, sweaty, catchy, fuzzy and booty shakin'.The riffs are the right measure of fat and badass and the vocals are delicously Chris Goss oriented, with a lot of crooning swagger. Their hooks get in your head and you'll find yourself singing them mindlessly in a few minutes.And that's where the problem, or the funniest part, comes in. Because you'll find yourself singing out loud refrains that talk about unstoppable erections, devinat S/M nymphomaniacs, obese lovers, lesbian gangrapes and everything your filthy head can thiunk of. The opener "Flagpole of Love" is an irresistible jewel of almost QOTSA-esque catchiness wrapped around some of the most obscene and explicit lyroics since Turbonegro. And they get worse.So if you like your rawk rollin and thunderin' but you dont mind some (very) filthy and (very) sexual humour to it, give it a try. NOT FOR THE KIDDIES!!!Get their album on Bandcamp (for free): http://biggusdiccus.bandcamp.com/Read more: Doomed To Be Stoned In A Sludge Swamp: Just Put Some Cock In Your Rock... http://sludgeswamp.blogspot.com/2010/07/just-put-some-cock-in-your-rock.html#ixzz0sXhiSNwwYour source for Sludge, Stoner, and Doom
Biggus Diccus are funny. But, beware, they're far from being a simple joke band. Their music is finely sculpted: pure muscular Riff Rock. Heavy, sweaty, catchy, fuzzy and booty shakin'.The riffs are the right measure of fat and badass and the vocals are delicously Chris Goss oriented, with a lot of crooning swagger. Their hooks get in your head and you'll find yourself singing them mindlessly in a few minutes.
And that's where the problem, or the funniest part, comes in. Because you'll find yourself singing out loud refrains that talk about unstoppable erections, devinat S/M nymphomaniacs, obese lovers, lesbian gangrapes and everything your filthy head can thiunk of. The opener "Flagpole of Love" is an irresistible jewel of almost QOTSA-esque catchiness wrapped around some of the most obscene and explicit lyroics since Turbonegro. And they get worse.
So if you like your rawk rollin and thunderin' but you dont mind some (very) filthy and (very) sexual humour to it, give it a try. NOT FOR THE KIDDIES!!!
Get their album on Bandcamp (for free): http://biggusdiccus.bandcamp.com/
Read more: Doomed To Be Stoned In A Sludge Swamp: Just Put Some Cock In Your Rock... http://sludgeswamp.blogspot.com/2010/07/just-put-some-cock-in-your-rock.html#ixzz0sXhiSNwwYour source for Sludge, Stoner, and Doom
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)
I'll give it a shot, you can't beat free. Thanks Herm
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
I have no idea on the quality of it, so please report back!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)
Glenn doesn't have the time to do a poll just now (originally we were going to do an ILM decade poll BUT theres been so many decade polls so fuck that) but there has never been an ILM Metal/Hard Rock poll before.I was thinking of a Best Metal/Hard Rock Songs Poll and a Best Metal Hard Rock Albums Poll so I'd be willing to do that IF someone else can do the number crunching. Glenn has kindly provided the software he uses to do all the polls, so if anyone can do it then please volunteer.
Glenn can answer any questions on the software etc.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 18:07 (fifteen years ago)
Wish I had time/energy to run the software myself. That said, I'd love to participate in the poll if anyone else can help.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
I really don't have it in me to tabulate another poll right now. It's a really time/life-consuming process.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
Why not just make it a discussion thread instead of another poll? u_u
― ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)
love you for that ksh
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:22 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I'm with these guys. Polls are meaningless. They are just bell curves of popular taste. That's the opposite of learning.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)
I'd love a thread like that, as long as I don't get laughed out of it for repping for hair metal.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
dude point me at the people who laugh at you for repping for hair metal, and I will kill those people with my bare hands
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
and also eat their hearts in front of their families
Okay cool. It's just that every time I drop in on a metal thread, everyone's talking about this heavy, growly stuff from recent years that I know NOTHING about.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
yeah well we're gonna keep right on talking about that stuff 'cause it kicks ass, don't get me wrong
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)
I actually like that Mantic Ritual record from last year, but only 'cos it sounds like the thrashy stuff I listened to in 1986 while I destroying my body trying to learn skateboard tricks. What else is new that sounds like that?
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
HI DERE
Rolling Metal Thread 2010
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)
hosting a discussion like that itt is just asking for a huge derail that would inevitably crowd out all discussion of new and upcoming records. needs to be hosted elsewhere imo
― ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
like in a poll?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
hah
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
well theres no poll if johnny wont do it. I dont think anyone else will volunteer.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)
What kind of software does Glenn use? I mean, if it's largely automated, pretty much anyone could do it. All I do is plug people's votes into Excel and do the math in my head as I go along (which is probably only about 92% reliable).
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
If we're gonna do this poll, why don't we at least wait until the current albums/tracks thing is a wrap?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
it would be ilxor. Noms would be open for 3 weeks so it will be over long before voting started nevermind results
johnny check your email
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
3 weeks for noms 3 weeks for voting means its 6 weeks before the tabulator has to do anything, i do the rest.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
guys can you start the thread so you can be talking about the poll on the thread I don't check to see if people are saying interesting things about heavy metal
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:16 (fifteen years ago)
Saw the link. Looks complicated. :/
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
and i know johnny will like the idea of best metal trax as well as albums...
pollhaters like smithy dont need to vote but they can write about stuff they like when it charts. I thought last years 2009 poll thread had some good discussion.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
ok smithy
if johnny doesnt agree then i guess theres no poll so it wont be discussed further
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm out. For now. I might be ready to do one again in a few months (6 weeks isn't long enough away).
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 July 2010 22:19 (fifteen years ago)
no worries. so smithy did you check out the free biggus diccus download?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
naw doesn't seem like my kinda thing
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)
me neither but george on the hard rock thread said it was quite good
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)
and yes i know that wont help you change your mind
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 2 July 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
delayed posting
― ksh, Friday, 2 July 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
The new Dawnbringer album (feat. Nachtmystium secret weapon Chris Black) is so fucking good, it's ridiculous. Traditional metal album of the year, by a mile.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 3 July 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)
Bruni has been raving to me about it. I need to hear that.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 3 July 2010 11:05 (fifteen years ago)
The new Zoroaster is fucking awesome. What other groups sound like this? Sort of heavy psych influenced, slightly shoey biker metal? I guess there's a crossover between some stoner bands like Kyuss and other Savanah bands and some doomers like Goat Snake. It's weird listening to a 'metal' group and thinking what does this remind me of? Oh yeah, Ride.
Titan are readying a new album for Relapse as well.
― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:36 (fifteen years ago)
I was wondering if Titan was actually gonna sign with Relapse. I met one of those dudes at the High on Fire/Priestess/Bison show and he was telling me about the new album - which was awesome news, because I loved the debut - but the Relapse deal was a vague possibility at that point.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I love that four track album from a few years back.
Got this yesterday: Relapse Records is proud to announce the signing of Brooklyn, NY’s TITAN.
TITAN, who have previously released material on Paradigms and Tee Pee Records, have recently completed work on a brand new full-length album titled Sweet Dreams. Sweet Dreams was recorded at Translator Audio in Brooklyn with engineer Brendan Tobin (MADE OUT OF BABIES, RED SPAROWES). An October 12th release date has been set and the album is available for pre-order at this location.
TITAN’s Josh Anzano commented on the new album; “"Sweet Dreams" has been the culmination of major urges welling up inside all of us to be a bit faster, a bit harder, a bit trippier and generally more aggro in our approach to writing, jamming out, and conceptualizing the songs and record as a whole. It's a lot tighter, but it's also a lot looser. We recorded with Brendan Tobin at his killer 'Translator Audio' studio in Brooklyn and we're pretty fucking stoked on the final results, and we hope that you are too!”
TITAN has confirmed an August 22nd New York show at Santos Party House, performing alongside SAVIOURS, PRIESTESS, HAMSOKEN, and more. Additional TITAN dates will be announced shortly.
Stay tuned to www.RELAPSE.com for forthcoming TITAN news / album release information. Additional information will be made available via TITAN MySpace page MySpace.com/Titanaut.
― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:44 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i got that email from Relapse too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 3 July 2010 12:48 (fifteen years ago)
From the Metal Listening Club thread:
id be very surprised if black metal was outselling death metal in the usa― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:36 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinki wonder who the biggest selling "doom" band in the US is and how much they sell? about 5k max?― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:40 PM (1 week ago)
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i wonder who the biggest selling "doom" band in the US is and how much they sell? about 5k max?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:40 PM (1 week ago)
Does anyone have any idea what kind of numbers smaller metal records do? Like what could something like, say, the new Ludicra expect to pull off?
― ksh, Sunday, 4 July 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)
Only the label could give you the actual answers because none of the methods for sales reporting (soundscans etc) are very accurate IMO.
But you can bet it's thousands and not tens of thousands.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks Nate!
Still, that just seems so incredibly low! I guess I just automatically assume that when people are praising a record on ILM and I see a positive review in a big name place or a positive mention on some decent blogs or whatever that the record is "big," but it's only big in the context of a relatively small community.
― ksh, Sunday, 4 July 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
Nate how many albums does your band sell?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
I remember years ago reading or hearing somewhere that Sick Of It All considered it 'making it big' when one of their major label records sold 20,000 worldwide.
Speaking of metal sales on smaller labels, what's the royalty return for artists like? I'm just gonna assume right off the bat they make the bulk of their dough from touring/merch/day jobs. Do metal labels work on a similar profit split model to the likes of Touch and Go et al?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
there is a band playing in my basement right now and i swear they sound like a cross between rush and neurosis. very cool! genesis climber. from california.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)
That must be novel -- I don't imagine they get to play in many basements in California.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)
listening to black breath heavy breathing, one of few metal albums i've bought this year. love it to death, though it ain't a patch on their live show. not an ilm favorite i guess?
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 04:36 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, it is, at least with me. I've been raving about that band for some time now.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 04:39 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, i searched kinda quickly. found more complaining abt the vocals than drooling enthusiasm. :(
i usually don't like the hoarse hc/screamo thing much, but love the total effect on heavy breathing.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)
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"Nate how many albums does your band sell?"
Our last album is out of print and our next one isn't out yet. ;)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)
So basically that means we've been selling NONE. We don't even have shirts right now. I guess we're putting all our effort into the music. Merch is on my list of "things to do" though :)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 09:49 (fifteen years ago)
I really like Black Breath as well FWIW.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 10:04 (fifteen years ago)
ok since a few people on Mordy's Metal Listening Club - New Albums Every Monday (see link for the reason for this poll)asked this particular discussion to be moved to here
After aldo's picks we decided to have an ILM poll on worst 90s albums made by established metal bands, Alan N nominated shitloads and adrien chipped in + there's aldos 3 original picks from the club here is what we have so far:Candlemass - Chapter VINapalm Death - Harmony Corruption (1990)Iron Maiden -No Prayer for the Dying (1990)Iron Maiden - The X Factor (1995)Iron Maiden - Virtual XI (1998)Metallica - Load (1996)Metallica - ReLoad (1997)Anthrax - Stomp 442 (1995)Anthrax - Volume 8: The Threat Is Real (1998)Slayer - Divine Intervention (1994)Slayer - Undisputed Attitude (1996)Slayer - Diabolus in Musica (1998)Danzig - Blackacidevil (1996)Danzig - Satan's Child (1999)Judas Priest - JugulatorMotley Crue - Mötley Crüe (1994)Motley Crue - Generation Swine (1997)Testament - DemonicSkid Row - Subhuman RaceMegadeth - Cryptic Writings (1997)Megadeth - Risk (1999)
What else should be added? 90s albums by established metal bands only.Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill (1996)? That one was pretty much unlistenable right?If we need 2 polls then fair enough.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 19:48 (fifteen years ago)
I forget who it was here who turned me on to Mar de Grises way back when, but I'm forever thankful, and their new album (out in september on Season of Mist), is excellent. The kind of classy Opeth/Katatonia combination that made Draining the Waterheart such a revelation, but with plenty of improvements.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)
It was probably scott
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)
They've been writing me about US booking for years. I like them.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
So any 90s bad albums by established metal bands to be added to the list?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
man anybody who likes metallic crust (or crusty metal, I don't know) - midtempo metal with thrashy breaks from the mid-nineties & plenty of "give the bassist a two-bar solo here" moments played by kids just looking to blow snot rockets needs to cop this Foul Stench discography CD. it has been amusing, entertaining, and rocking me for a month now. (it came it 2008 but I just took a chance on it with a big buy-three-get-one-free deal from goregiastic.) pretty trad solos a lot of the time, given the musical context - I don't know, I view these guys as a less grindy precursor to Foetopsy, and it's no secret how I feel about Foetopsy. how do you know if this is a band you might like? gentlemen: the track listing.
1. Jiz Mark 2. Call Me Evil 3. Creamator 4. So Fucking High 5. Foul Stench 6. Pinch A Loaf 7. Donor 8. Stone 9. Infected 10. The Funk 11. I Like Puss 12. Cock-Pit 13. Dill Pickle 14. Could It Be (She's Got a Cock) 15. Filth 16. Fuck the Life 17. Dethroned Emperor (Celtic Frost Cover) 18. You Are Nasty 19. Police State 20. You Want Me 21. We're Crazy 22. Black Death 23. Moshing Mother Fuckers 24. Shit Hole 25. Big Ass Boot 26. Let's Get Fucked Up 27. Fist Fucking
So fucking good.
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)
personal fave right now is "so fucking high," which begins: "I/would/die/to be high"
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)
in 2007, eleven years after the recordings collected on The Beginning, Foul Stench made an album that indicated where they were at now. I have not heard the album, but I feel its track listing is worth noting -- a band unafraid of growth!
1. Be Gone 2. Fake 3. Leech 4. Pack A Bowl 5. Lost 6. Damn Nation 7. Skull Fukd 8. Asshole 9. Singing About Pussy
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
There's something to be said for single-mindedness. I don't know what it is, but somebody here probably does.
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)
I've been pretty busy wallowing in the Cemetery Rapist discography lately, but I might be willing to give those guys a shot.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)
very cool! genesis climber. from california.
― scott seward, Monday, July 5, 2010 9:29 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
dude theyre playing at my house soon!
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:56 (fifteen years ago)
1. Jiz Mark2. Call Me Evil3. Creamator4. So Fucking High5. Foul Stench6. Pinch A Loaf7. Donor8. Stone9. Infected10. The Funk11. I Like Puss12. Cock-Pit13. Dill Pickle14. Could It Be (She's Got a Cock)15. Filth16. Fuck the Life17. Dethroned Emperor (Celtic Frost Cover)18. You Are Nasty19. Police State20. You Want Me21. We're Crazy22. Black Death23. Moshing Mother Fuckers24. Shit Hole25. Big Ass Boot26. Let's Get Fucked Up27. Fist FuckingSo fucking good.― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, July 6, 2010 3:44 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, July 6, 2010 3:44 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
voted for You Are Nasty
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone heard the new Sahg album? I'm halfway through it and pretty taken so far by its Dio-meets-Soundgarden-meets-NWOBHM grandstanding
― Penius / JZA (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 08:37 (fifteen years ago)
yeah this is great, you can probly disregard the Soundgarden mention aside from like one or two tracks maybe but I like this a whole lot. In fact I need to hear the whole Grand Magus new one just to have this year's obvious point of comparison at hand
― Penius / JZA (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:11 (fifteen years ago)
Genesis Climber made me curious since it's an obscure Robotech reference. Found their website. It's fun.
Too bad they played Portland weeks ago not too far from my house.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 09:43 (fifteen years ago)
I didn't know the new Sahg was out there already. Must hear it.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)
Today on MSN: Is it ever too hot to listen to metal?
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)
Noone got anything to add to the list then? cuz I may as well do the poll now. So no complaining over what has been missed.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 12:43 (fifteen years ago)
Every '90s Metallica album. Add them all.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)
ban ilxor
― ksh, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)
their 00s output will all be nominated in the follow up poll. Infact it will probably just be metallica albums in it..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)
Worst 90s Albums By Established Metal Acts
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)
ZOROASTER, BLACK TUSK Empty Bottle, 7/6
I hated to miss this last night, but had to reserve my energy for 3 hrs of Rush tonight, heh. Anyone go? Sahg!
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
did we discuss this yet? it's a concordance of stats for metal-archives.com (a generally fantastic site imo) -- what visitors look at broken down by genre & what country the site's users are from -- stats people, you may get a big kick out of this -- I'm not even a stats guy but it's a really interesting chart to look at
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
built by our own glenn iirc
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
oh man is that right? we probably had this discussion already but I'm on pain meds lol
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
Man, that heated Oberst discussion in the Wavves thread must really be gettin' to ya, huh?
Drugs are not the answer... :'(
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
Yup, Glenn posted it in here a week or 2 ago.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
Yup, "discussion" (not much actually) is here:
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
lol ilxor no these are legit for legit physical stuff on which I won't dwell further than to say if my coherence dips below its already low baseline now the rolling metal thread knows why
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)
Will know there's something up smithy when you start a poll thread ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)
Or post here Worst 90s Albums By Established Metal Acts ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)
now playing, btw, Helvet in Musta Peto, a comp from last year that is seriously among the best metal compilation albums I have ever owned - I got it from Bestial Burst during my "holy shit Bestial Burst is the best label out there" frenzy last year; it's such a lovingly curated comp, flows so well, gives several different looks that flow together nicely, and is kinda my #1 exhibit for black metal that's both reaching into new places & remaining true to the genre - I know the term "true" is loaded but if you run across it have a listen and you'll see what I mean. The Saturnian Mist track is especially fuckin hot
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:20 (fifteen years ago)
and the Ride for Revenge track, which is really, really long, like a mini-album within the album (it has three distinct parts, it's like a black metal take on those stitch-several-songs-into-one side-long things Genesis used to do)
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)
for kshhttp://www.opinz.com/the-worst-albums-of-all-time-metallica-st-anger-2003/
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
your worst nightmare is happening. John Justen is helping with an ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Tracks & ILM Alltime Best Ever Metal Albums email poll. Will start a noms thread shortly and will try keep mentions of it in here to a minimum so not to piss poll haters off. Will post the link in here once its up so your thread isn't spoiled. But please mr & mrs poll haters, please even consider nominating stuff you would like to see in it! In return i wont bug you!:)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
i'm into ride for revenge. really dug the track "no saviour no return" off their last one. think I posted on here about it, even.
comp sounds cool, thanks.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
ok JD, on yer recommendation out tracking down this comp, which sounds pretty much like a must have for me.
― Is that a Danzig in your pocket or are you just happy to HAIL SATAN? (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:39 (fifteen years ago)
Genesis Climber made me curious since it's an obscure Robotech reference.
<3
― original bgm, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
--- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock TRACKS Poll---. - Noms end 25th July
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:44 (fifteen years ago)
and --- NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Metal/Heavy Rock Albums Poll---. - Noms end 26th July
keep all related chat in those threads.
over and out. Wont mention it again until nearer end time of noms.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
I wish I could say "seek out the hard copy," since it's a really cool booklet-and-super-thick-cardstock foldout cd cover, but, naturally, only 666 copies were pressed, so don't feel shy about doing the necessary to find a less tangible copy.
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
I wonder how many metal albums are limited to 666 copies. (more than 666 albums for sure)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
it's actually pretty expensive to specify a pressing of 666 - take my word for it, lol
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 23:49 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah fruitless searching tells me a physical copy is doubtful, although lol @ omega mailorder offering me the chance to buy one and have it shipped right away when it arrives.
― Is that a Danzig in your pocket or are you just happy to HAIL SATAN? (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)
Free High on Fire single for download here, it's number 6: http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201005_kia/index.html
― X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
and its a good track
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
Anybody who thinks of any metal-archives.com statistical thing I didn't already list in the Discordance, let me know and I'll see if I can add it.
(I feel like I should clarify that although I did all the data-analysis and metal-specific processing, the underlying database software itself is not a solo project. I'm the designer and product manager, but there's a whole team of people building/testing/supporting it. This is the same software I used to administer the 2009 Pazz & Jop, and to build a huge World Cup History explorer, and various other things. Our parent company is (as of last Thursday) now in the process of being acquired by Google, which could have interesting implications for the future of the system...)
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:45 (fifteen years ago)
I mentioned this before, but I'm really into this German band Mandrake. Semi-gothic semi-death metal, with both a female lead singer and a male growler with (it seems to me) more personality than is often the case. Innocence Weakness is the new album.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:48 (fifteen years ago)
for kshhttp://www.opinz.com/the-worst-albums-of-all-time-metallica-st-anger-2003/― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:57 PM (Yesterday)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:57 PM (Yesterday)
proud of Hetfield & crew whenever SA makes a worst of list
― ksh, Thursday, 8 July 2010 04:01 (fifteen years ago)
YOB vinyl is coming. There was a rumour that it was only available to southern lord series subscribers but it appears that mailout by SL was only referring to a particular colour vinyl. The normal black version is available as normal so all is ok and we can still get the vinyl (which has 2 vinyl only tracks not on the cd)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)
While I'm endorsing metal bands with female singers, and those of us on the Metal Club thread are still savoring last week's Warlock album, I'll also toss in a cheer for the shamelessly trad Sister Sin, who sound to me kinda like the Sounds as a late-80s vintage metal band. New album is called True Sound of the Underground, and it has lots of churning guitar riffs with guys chanting "Hoy!" over them, and a Doro-style power-metal singer almost audibly strutting back and forth. Fab.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I've liked Sister Sin for a while now, and the singer definitely has a cool Doro thing going on. The new album's really good, too. Sleaze-power, I guess you'd call it, as if Warlock came from the Sunset Strip.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Hmm, "sleaze" seems like an unfortunate choice of terms here. "Raw power"? Or just "Heavy metal", which is what EM seems to have settled on for them? Fun, whatever you call it!
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 8 July 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)
I mean sleaze in a good way. Late-'80s Strip. LA Guns, Faster Pussycat & the like. There's a strong touch of that in Sister Sin.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=narHqBWkauI
― ksh, Friday, 9 July 2010 04:29 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/mooseboner
― scott seward, Friday, 9 July 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)
anybody heard the new bloody sign album? what's the news?
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 9 July 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)
No, but I heard the new Christian Mistress in its entirety. Lotsa folks are gonna be very happy with this one.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
I sure am!
― A. Begrand, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to the new Acacia Strain album, Wormwood, right now. No major changes to their sound that I can hear.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 9 July 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
all right so I sometimes do this thing (most often with vinyl releases) where I'll buy a record and put off listening to it until "just the right time." naturally there really isn't ever a "just the right time," and I've known this since high school, which was when I started with this buy-an-LP-wait-til-the-moment's-right nonsense. but when it's an album by a band I know I like, I will still sometimes set it aside and wait. until a day when I'm less busy I guess. or until I feel like I've cleared the decks for it or something. and this is how sometimes I will run across an album and go, shit, you didn't actually ever listen to that did you, and you had specifically been looking forward to that album coming out.
well my friends. this morning I finally got around to putting Ares Kingdom's Incendiary, a 2010 heavy metal release don'tcha know, onto the turntable. Ares Kingdom is the band that Order From Chaos became; if you don't know Order From Chaos, but you like metal, you should get to know them -- they're only canonical at a deep-cult level, but for those of us who dig them, they're all-time. Incendiary, on the evidence of the first side, which has been blasting off the top of my skull for three and a half tracks now, is on the level of OFC's best. It's kind of not in these guys' nature to frontload an album and let it drop off, so I'll be pretty surprised if things don't just get better. The only thing that's a little weird is how loud & clear the vox are mixed. But fuckin A. Incendiary by Ares Kingdom. They're a kind of black metal very in touch with the genre's thrash roots, very in touch with the death metal side of things but just the way the songs are put together is more black-metal sympathetic - almost like operatic thrash, "operatic" not vocally (the vocals are proper vokill style) but in terms of this sweeping-composition feel. The guitar solos kick fucking ass. Nowhere near as noisy and fucked up as Order From Chaos -- whether a more focused OFC is your thing is a matter of taste I guess. For me, this record would have to fall off a fucking cliff on the 2nd side to not make my year-end list.
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
fucking A this song "Ashen Glory" is some kinda perfect heavy metal song. wow wow wow.
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
So yesterday I was at the Albert Ayler Festival, a free all-day out-jazz event with performances by five or so groups and a bunch of solo, duo and trio saxophone bits in between. In addition to the live music, which was awesome, they had record vendors there, one of whom had at least two Graveland albums in one of his bins. Free jazz + Nazi metal = a good look in 2010? I guess I missed that meeting.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:21 (fifteen years ago)
xpost to aerosmith:
gave that ares kingdom a listen a few months ago and it didn't do much for me. the mix was an issue. thought the vox were way too loud and the band sounded a little muted in comparison.
re-listening to "ashen glory" now and I still think that the vox are distracting. but the thrashy songwriting you mentioned definitely satisfies. particularly like the bit during the solo where the band switches gears to half-time and then picks up again. this is probably better than I gave it credit for.
maybe order from chaos would be more to my liking.
― original bgm, Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)
anyone else catch bastard noise live? saw them in brooklyn a few weeks ago and they have an undeniably killer sound. but waiting a pretty ridiculous amount of time for the band to start playing (well over an hour) in the ABSOLUTELY BRUTAL heat while jam-packed into a tiny venue filled with sweaty, stinky boys... well, I was basically worn down before they even started.
new record (a culture of monsters) is solid, though. still digging the return to the sludgy man is the bastard sound but I think I prefer the more direct approach on the endless blockade split. still, the "noise" stuff on here is certainly better integrated this time around.
will have to listen more before I fully make my mind up on this one but it's well worth a listen.
― original bgm, Sunday, 11 July 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
Man, I have a big backlog of metal that I've accumulated over the past few months that I still need to attend to!
You know, I've been thinking of retiring the "ksh" moniker on ILX, so I think I'm just gonna do that right now and take a few days off of the boards to focus on going through that backlog and doing other irl stuff that I need to attend to. I'll be back itt on Thursday under a new name. Goals upon returning: follow fewer threads, less unnecessary negativity, significantly fewer insubstantial posts, and a way more mindful approach to how I'm coming across. Think this will be good. See you all in a few days!
― ksh, Monday, 12 July 2010 04:12 (fifteen years ago)
Awwwwwww.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 12 July 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)
hey Scott, good news! The new October Tide is really depressing!
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)
The members of Iron Maiden were too busy touring to give the Cleveland Scene an interview, so...I went this route instead.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 14:22 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, great idea Phil.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)
Very glad he's more cockney than cookie monster :)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)
As for Ares Kingdom, I don't think I'd listen to this regularly, but it does slam pretty hard. Good riffs and the blackened drum production works (at least on computer speakers).
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
Guitar melody at 5:10 in Descent of Man is pretty fucking classick.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
It took me far too long to dig into Bloody Panda, but damn am I glad I finally did.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 July 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
I've been a fan for years, but I finally met them in person a few months back. Was kind of dreading it in case they were dicks. But they are fantastic people and now I love them even more. Bloody Panda rules.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 15 July 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)
so is ksh back? or was he ILXOR all along?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
Nate's right - super nice people who put on one of the most intense, creepy shows I've experienced. Plus unlike so many of their peers, they were able to capture some of that magic in the studio, particularly with Summon.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 15 July 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)
I'm thinking about starting a company to design T-shirts grown-up metalheads can wear without embarrassment.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 15 July 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
^____________^
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 15 July 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
ilx fight club
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
You're right about metal t-shirts, Phil. There are a lot of atrocious designs out there. For me, the more spartan the better.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 15 July 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
I suppose it goes without saying but the giant, colorful prints metalcore bands dig are particularly NAGL:
http://www.imperial-clothing.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/l/g/lg_iwabo_popcorn_white_18.png
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/c/0/0/30/f/AAAADEg-41YAAAAAADD_-A.jpg
https://cdn.indiemerch.com/i/4/8/48339cb9db.jpg
BARF.
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
The Black Dahlia Murder sells a logo shirt, too, though:
http://pad.indiemerch.com/i/0/3/03d9e2d3a8.jpg
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:10 (fifteen years ago)
sure. I'm just sayin, this is a trend that the world's most violent pizza delivery man does not approve of.
so, anyone heard the autopsy awakened by gore demos that nuclear war now just put out? love me some autopsy but their actual albums already sound so raw! are the demos listenable?
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:22 (fifteen years ago)
someone should be killed for that devil wears prada one
on the other hand its probably good that the i wrestled a bear once one sends up the douche signal flares, because that way even people that havent suffered through their music will know not to talk to the dude wearing it.
― t( :D t) (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:23 (fifteen years ago)
lol, xpost
man, that devil wears prada model looks 100% punchable. sorry for making you guys look at him.
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)
i like tshirts with just a bands name on it, but i dont mind it being other stuff sometimes. but i wouldnt wear an eddie logo or the really stupid electric wizard/sleep bong stuff. Luckily i got non druggy shirts by them.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)
man, the electric wizard satan bong hit design is CLASSIC! but I guess we had this argument already.
reminiscing about more tasteful metal times...
http://www.thedevilsdemons.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/deicidesweats.jpg
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
disclaimer: was too young/scared to see real live death metal guys wearing deicide sweatpants in the flesh but I do have fond memories of the blue grape merch inserts.
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit @ this starting bid!
http://cgi.ebay.com/OBITUARY-CAUSE-DEATH-SWEAT-PANTS-METAL-SEPULTURA-/390217269543?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5adac30127
― original bgm, Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)
loling hard at those sweat pants
― richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 15 July 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)
blue grape is kvlt as fuck
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 16 July 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)
ok guys I wont mention this again until the very last day to remind stragglers. But if you want to participate ~~~ VOTING THREAD : ILM ALLTIME METAL/HEAVY ROCK ALBUMS/TRACKS POLL~~~ Voting ends 11.59pm UK Time AUGUST 2ND
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 17 July 2010 02:20 (fifteen years ago)
Any good doom metal albums out lately that I may have missed?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 17 July 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)
I don't really fuck with a lot of doom but the new DoomDogs sounds kinda interesting
http://www.myspace.com/doomdogs
― les yeux sans aerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 17 July 2010 03:41 (fifteen years ago)
When I saw them last year I just *had* to buy this Black Dahlia Murder longsleeve (it was on sale too; figures, eh?), although I must admit I eventually chickened out of wearing it to a Bolt Thrower show a few months ago:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Sj_1fE7Ajo8/SuFwZbxyavI/AAAAAAAAARo/FI2O8ldPhgg/s400/Photo-0010.jpg
― Thijs, Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)
Am at least temporarily convinced that Mandrake's "Save Us From Ourselves" is the best song of the year. With Nevermore's "Emptiness Unobstructed" close behind. And then all the songs I've forgotten from earlier in the year that are just as good.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:33 (fifteen years ago)
so is ksh back? or was he ILXOR all along?― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:56 PM (3 days ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:56 PM (3 days ago)
took a couple extra days, but I'm back! didn't listen to too much metal, but did have a nice break
― markers, Sunday, 18 July 2010 04:07 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.stonerrock.com/store/images/covers/ATH-7946_big.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 July 2010 14:06 (fifteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 17 July 2010 02:22 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It's possibly not out for a few weeks but I'm really impressed by the Sahg album - need more time w/ it but I can see it ending up in my top 10 come December
― Just what is she studying? ABSLOLUTE STUPIDITY? (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 July 2010 14:25 (fifteen years ago)
I need to hear that Sahg album, darnit.
As for more of a Katatonia/Opeth prog doom hybrid, the new Mar de Grises album is pretty amazing, one of the better albums I've heard as of late.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 19 July 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
Heard the new Iron Maiden album today. Short take: It starts out really weird, with a three- to four-minute abstract intro that seems to have no main riff at all, then it launches into the title track, which you've probably already heard (and seen the awesome video for). Then "El Dorado," which is excellent. It goes hard 'n' heavy, much more so than the last album, for much of its first half, then gets looser and proggier in its second half as the songs get longer, and longer, and longer. The latter half of the album is much more reminiscent of A Matter of Life and Death. There's one song on the first half that you can totally tell Jannick Gers helped write; it's a total gallop, like something from '85, and he takes an absurd shredding solo. Other than that, all the best solos (to my ear) are by Dave Murray, who at this point should be mailing David Gilmour checks on a regular basis.
I like it, and/but if it's their final album, that's fine.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 19 July 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
Anyone heard Manowar & Friends Dio tribute that comes out tomorrow? Cover is Manowartastic:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MA11H8eXL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 July 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)
I heard Manowar's cover of "Heaven and Hell", and it's pretty good.
That extended intro on the new Maiden album is wicked. It really takes you aback, they've never done anything like that before. And yeah, the Gers song ("The Talisman") is total Maiden cliche, but it has fun with it, it doesn't sound half-assed.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, there's nothing half-assed or underwritten on the record, though around the 55-minute mark my attention was starting to flag. It's definitely not gonna be something I'm gonna listen to front-to-back very often.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 19 July 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not a big fan of long, filled-to-capacity CDs, but The Final Frontier is easily one of the better 75+ minute albums I've heard in a while. I agree, it does get taxing around the one hour mark, but that last track ("Where the Wild Wind Blows") ends things on a strong note in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 19 July 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)
I pretty much agree with Phil, although I really like the weird intro.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 July 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
It's a tough album to assess after just a couple of listens, it really needs time to settle in. Unfortunately the press isn't afforded that luxury, they're keeping this album under very tight wraps.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 19 July 2010 22:21 (fifteen years ago)
Better or worse than Nostradamus?
― Nate Carson, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, way, way better. Though Phil might disagree with me there!
― A. Begrand, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)
I think I might too, though I haven't heard either!
― Nate Carson, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:34 (fifteen years ago)
Better than Nostradamus in that each song is consistently good, whereas the Priest record has a lot of peaks and valleys. But are the best two or three songs on Nostradamus better than anything on The Final Frontier? That's a tougher call.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:50 (fifteen years ago)
Perhaps Herman can make us a poll ;)
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 10:26 (fifteen years ago)
I'll pass
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 12:23 (fifteen years ago)
pl school a know-nothing - in the wire this month there is an amazing photo of this aus metal group called portal so i d.led one of their albs ('swarth') and i really like it, so what else shld i check out in a similar(ish) style/sound? ty
(ps the last time i sampled some hm from an ilx rec, it was a mastodon alb, and it just wasn't really heavy/noise enuff for my tastes...)
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
Portal is amazing. You should also check out some Immolation. The new one is great but my personal favorite is Closer to a World Below.
Gorguts - Obscura and Meshuggah - Chaosphere are similarly unearthly.
If that's the wrong direction, maybe try some Blut Aus Nord.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)
It's not really similar to Portal, but Deathspell Omega is another "unearthly" metal band. But yeah, for crunch and brutality Gorguts and Mesguggah is the way to go.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:33 (fifteen years ago)
Not really similar but try their labelmates Cobalt. Gin is a terrific album.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)
thanks for tips, dudes, will report back
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)
Holy shit! What's going on with this hillbilly hipster doom thing The Body? This 'All The Waters Of The Earth Turn To Blood' is one of the greatest things I've heard all year... It's been out in the US for a while and is quite repped by Aquarius. http://www.myspace.com/thevisionshallcometopass
http://www.myspace.com/thevisionshallcometopass/photos/44489001
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 22 July 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)
Reviewed it the other week, was broadly impressed (tho I had to turn it around hella quick) - seemed like it was Providence noize dudes, are there still ilxors from that crowd posting on here?
― I will sug you and ban you on the permalink (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 July 2010 14:16 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah it's quite good. Saw it on the aQ list a while back.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 July 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, was just corresponding with The Body today. They are playing 2 Portland shows early next month.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 22 July 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)
Why Mid-Level Bands Cannot Make Money
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 23 July 2010 12:17 (fifteen years ago)
man, that's depressing. not surprising, just depressing.
― original bgm, Friday, 23 July 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)
How's the new Drudkh?
Also really into this band from Philly right now called Javelina. Total Buzzoven worship with killer 'groove' riffs.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 23 July 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)
theres a new drudkh?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:47 (fifteen years ago)
oh is that what i saw on emusic? i was wondering if that was new.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)
all that Maiden talk upthread got me on a huge Maiden kick. I haven't seriously listened to this group, which used to be my favorite band in the late 80s, since 'Seventh Son'... well, actually it was a combination of discovering death metal and hearing "Bring Your Daughter..." for the that caused me to lose interest in Maiden. I have not heard a single new song by them since 1990, so this is like some time capsule shit for me.
A Matter of Life and Death is great! I can't wait for the new one. It's awesome to hear a band that old sounding like they are still in their prime.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 23 July 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
I'm getting to hear it next week, pretty stoked.
Am currently listening to Melechesh (very good)and Fall Of Empyrean (not as good).
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 23 July 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really enjoying the new Accept album. Sure, there's no Udo and the new guy has a similar gravelly voice, plus the album goes on a little too long, but those 82-85 era riffs are back and the new tracks range from solid to surprisingly strong.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 23 July 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)
Mid-level band math is fairly accurate though you only have to play the clubs that take a merch % if you're on some crappy package tour.
Buying merch direct from the band is a very real strategy to supporting the art you like. You can also give them a place to stay where they can safely park their van, buy them a meal, write about them in the weekly, etc. I try to do a lot to support bands I like without necessarily draining my bank account.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:20 (fifteen years ago)
Also, I don't see why a band that's making $300/night needs a manager. Shouldn't that % be going to the church as a tithe instead?
― Nate Carson, Friday, 23 July 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
hey nate you're in terrorizer this month!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 July 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
Downloading the new Accept now. I'm cautiously op...nope, I can't lie, I'm not optimistic at all.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 23 July 2010 23:29 (fifteen years ago)
man that oh, sleeper essay is sad.
― my dream is to own a fly casino (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 July 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
I went to B&N to pick up the new Terrorizer and they didn't have it. Would like to see Ms Kelly's treatise on our volcanic stay post-Roadburn. Was a great time!
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
She said in it that you haven't posted your ballot yet ;)
You get quite a few mentions, don't think there's a pic though. It was a good read though. I assume you all had a good time.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
the cover ishttp://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/25574502/_199_ENFORCER_COVER_NEW-1_LORES.jpg
Sadly I think Terrorizer is turning into Kerrang. that 40 sickest riffs stuff was pure shite, way worse than any polls i start on here! yes, that bad!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
actually Nate, is that you looking out from behind the CD? ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)
No one recognizes me without my glasses.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 24 July 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
I dont think i've seen a pic of you
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
Terrorizer was kind enough to take me on after sister mag Sick Sounds was forced to fold, which was kind of them. Apparently my Lair of the Minotaur feature was in the last issue, but I have yet to see it. My local bookstores are always one or two issues behind.
And Phil, as for the Accept I'll totally concede Tornillo turns on the Udo affectations in a big way, but to be honest Accept would never have sounded this reinvigorated if it was Udo at the helm. He's happy going through the motions with the predictably fun U.D.O.. Accept is really building some positive momentum meanwhile...what began as a pretty innocuous reunion has yielded a big worldwide recording deal, very high demand for shows, and some plum festival spots. It's really great to see, it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)
I really should proofread more often.
Herman, there's a picture of Nate with Geir on this very thread. He's a little fella with one of the biggest hearts of anyone I've ever met.
Nate, we should have got a picture when I was out there. Maybe next time.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:11 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah, i remember that now.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)
We'll get a picture next time Erik. I can be everyone's Salacious Crumb ;)
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:31 (fifteen years ago)
I'll try to cut a few pounds so the Jabba comparison isn't as easy.
But scalewise, we are rather different.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 July 2010 01:35 (fifteen years ago)
It was more a dig at Geir than you ;)
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 24 July 2010 03:29 (fifteen years ago)
It wasn't taken as a dig - I'm not exactly svelte, or short. Just being honest!
If all goes well (keep your fingers crossed) I could be seeing you more often so there'll be plenty more picture opportunities.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 July 2010 03:39 (fifteen years ago)
Adrien - nice Across Tundras review at Popmatters today! Really a great album, and I'm happy to see them getting press.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 July 2010 14:10 (fifteen years ago)
― ksh, Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:32 PM (1 month ago)
first issue showed up!
― markers, Monday, 26 July 2010 15:21 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks EZ! I wanted to get the word out a bit more about the Across Tundras album since it's been self-released.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)
I listened to the new Avenged Sevenfold album so you don't have to, if you don't want to.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 02:46 (fifteen years ago)
I really don't understand the appeal of that band. Their last album was horrendous.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, but I liked the one before that, City of Evil. This one isn't as good as CoE, but it's nowhere near as bad as the s/t disc.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
every dude who comes into my shop wearing an Avenged Sevenfold shirt can not play guitar. this is not opinion, but observed and confirmed fucking fact.
― Poutine kissed boy "like a kitten" (jjjusten), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 03:32 (fifteen years ago)
I had to explain to a young sound engineer in NYC that Avenged Sevenfold is a boy band. He looked incredulous. Then I gave him the Invaders comp and things got better.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 04:09 (fifteen years ago)
Then I gave him the Invaders comp and things got better.
this oughta be the tag line for an Invaders comp series of commercials
I will totally do one of these commercials, it'll be awesome
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 05:01 (fifteen years ago)
I'm not really trying to proselytize for that comp. I just had a handful of them leftover from sxsw and knew it was a better direction for some dumb kid than Avenged Sevenfold.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
Okay, so I just won a silly contest to name a song on the next AxCx 7". I've got a nice idea in my head already, but oh the possibilities!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
"ILX is gay"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)
I ordered a Black Shapes Of Nexus live tape for $6ppd from the usa. I even asked if that was the right price, but hey, who am I to complain!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 02:21 (fifteen years ago)
Iron Maiden sold out Madison Square Garden earlier this month; Tom Petty, last night, did not.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 29 July 2010 12:46 (fifteen years ago)
...pity poor, petty Petty.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)
free lollin
― markers, Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:56 (fifteen years ago)
saw an immolation/arsis/disma show last night. I'm sure most of y'all are familiar with the first two bands and they both killed it. (in particular, arsis were a total blast.) but I'd never heard of disma before and came away impressed. thick, chunky death metal that rarely rose above mid-tempo and frequently dropped well below for a taste of doom. very satisfying.
― original bgm, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I really had a soft spot for City of Evil when it came out. Not a GREAT album or anything, but pretty fun. The self-titled was probably one of the worst albums I've heard in the last five years. The new one balances between those two, half the tracks are goddamned awful and half of them are kind of fun. As Phil noted, some great solos scattered throughout.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:19 (fifteen years ago)
Skipping Iron Maiden tonight. Tickets were/are €60 - I can buy a lot of groceries with that. Funny how one's priorities change when one gets older.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 30 July 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)
Caught Boris a couple days ago (there are other comments scattered in the Boris threads). Think I've caught 'em four times now. The show wasn't as purely enjoyable as the Smile tour (love that rec so much) when they played 3/4 of the new record; wasn't as utterly overwhelming as the front-to-back Feedbacker show at ATP last year; and wasn't as jarring to my senses as the first time I saw them, walking past the venue not even knowing who was playing ("OMG whaat is that awesome drooooooooonoonnnnneeeeee??" *walks into venue, dies*). That said, it was still incredible. Got a little bit of everything on the setlist. Lots of energy in the crowd up-front. And there's nothing like seeing them go into a long drone that builds on itself for 5-10 minutes before it explodes, and seeing Wata and Takeshi crank their amp knobs past 11 during the quiet parts, then blow the fucking roof off when the wave of sound hits.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 30 July 2010 13:51 (fifteen years ago)
I said I wouldn't mention ~~~ VOTING THREAD : ILM ALLTIME METAL/HEAVY ROCK ALBUMS/TRACKS POLL~~~ Voting ends 11.59pm UK Time AUGUST 2ND againuntil near the end and here it is, everyone welcome to vote, finishes monday night UK time.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:53 (fifteen years ago)
ilxor what old stuff did boris play?
I'm not good with track names. Also depends what you'd consider "old" I guess. I'm not sure if I'm maybe mixing up songs from past setlists (I've seen 'em three times at this venue), but there was a lot from Pink... "Pink," "Woman on the Screen" for sure. Nothing that I recall from Rainbow. "Floor Shaker" was there. Want to say "Statement" also. I have no idea about the drone-ier stuff, I just let stuff play and don't worry about track names.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 30 July 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)
Some really quiet song with Wata on vox, also, that never really went anywhere or got people interested.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 30 July 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)
so no 40 min version of Flood then?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 18:02 (fifteen years ago)
Unfortunately not!
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
they did the time i saw them :) on the pink tour. All the pink fans stood there kinda baffled while a bunch of old dudes were zoning out getting into it haha. It was amazing. I didn't think the pink songs were as good live as on the record tbh. I suspect Smile might suffer more. I like those albums a lot but I dont really want to see them live.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)
I'd kill to see them do absolutego live!
I've found, at least on ILM, anyone who got in via pink or smile, has checked out the older albums and loved them even more, even when they're quite different. The ones who haven't checked em out are missing out.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:43 (fifteen years ago)
I'm listening to the new Enslaved, and oh my, is "Ethica Odini" ever a great track. Starts off typically grim and icy, then subtly becomes gorgeous. They've gotten so good at working classy melodies into their songs.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 30 July 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
Haven't listened to the new Enslaved yet (as I said on Twitter, I wish I liked them more than I actually do), but the new one from The Sword is fucking awesome. Galloping and epic, with production by Matt Bayles that does little aside from cleaning up the vocals a little (they're sung now, instead of yelled). These guys are one of the four or five best metal bands in America at this point; you don't have to like what they do, but they have absolutely mastered their craft, and if you can't appreciate that, I reserve the right to think your motives are suspect.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 31 July 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, it was the right decision for them to go into space.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Saturday, 31 July 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)
The fact that the Sword made the effort to make their vocals sound better is very promising...the uninspired vocal melodies were always a sticking point with me. I hope to hear it after the weekend.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 31 July 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
listening to the new enslaved. always when I hear a new enslaved record I start out "guys, I already know you can do this" and then by the middle of the second song I'm like "oh shit here we gooooooo"
what an incredible band. I haven't made a "top ten bands currently working" list since high school but if I had one these guys would have to be right up near or at the top.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
haha smithy used to like lists!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)
oh yeah I liked to make lists from early in my music geekhood until I was like 17
then one day I was like wow I gotta be straight with myself, I no longer care about listing bands or albums or songs or books or authors
I still like unordered lists of unrelated things though - coconut milk, titanium, the new Enslaved album, a bookshelf, kittens
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:11 (fifteen years ago)
holy shit this track "giants" off the new enslaved
and then the jazzy shit on "singular"
what a fucking completely incredible band
I mean check this shit out:
* Hordanes Land (EP) (1993) * Vikingligr Veldi (1994) * Frost (1994) * Eld (1997) * Blodhemn (1998) * Mardraum - Beyond the Within (2000) * Monumension (2001) * Below the Lights (2003) * Isa (2004) * Ruun (2006) * Vertebrae (2008) * Axioma Ethica Odini (2010)
I'm not nuts about Monumension but even with that in there who the hell has anything like that kind of a run of consistently engaged, forward-looking albums in this genre? Like, I will rep for the entire Darkthrone discography, and think that each Darkthrone album is at very least an interesting commentary on metal/the scene - they're almost like the ombudsmen of metal. But Enslaved, they just keep going for it again & again & again.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 1 August 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)
'Manumission' by Enslaved?
The new Cephalic Carnage is up in my top five of the year so far.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 1 August 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)
always when I hear a new enslaved record I start out "guys, I already know you can do this" and then by the middle of the second song I'm like "oh shit here we gooooooo"
Haha, perfectly put.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 1 August 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, hey, looks like I have the new Enslaved as well. Is it just me, or have Nuclear Blast become like the best label out there?
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Sunday, 1 August 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)
it's weird how much ass nuclear blast has been kicking lately - if you look at their '06 release schedule, it's a lot of passable-but-eh stuff and this year they've got at least two on my year-end (Cathedral & Enslaved...there's no way Enslaved don't make it, it's that immediately good) + there's a new Melechesh coming in October
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 1 August 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)
Glad to hear someone else likes the new Sword album. I was alarmed to read the withering review in Decibel. I still have hope.
Saw Valkyrie, Torche and Baroness last night. What a great show. The latter two are playing now at Wicker Park Fest, Chicago. I first saw Valkyrie at Alehorn of Power in '08 at Double Door. Is there no Alehorn fest this year?
― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 1 August 2010 23:52 (fifteen years ago)
I was alarmed to read the withering review in Decibel.
Decibel would never permit themselves to run a positive review of The Sword. Which is why, despite the personal affection I have for the people who post in this thread and also write for them, I say fuck Decibel.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 1 August 2010 23:55 (fifteen years ago)
So pissed I had to work today and couldn't make it down to Wicker Park Fest. So anxious to hear both the Enslaved and Sword albums.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 August 2010 00:36 (fifteen years ago)
Decibel would never permit themselves to run a positive review of The Sword.
if I called Albert tonight and said "I fucking love the Sword album and want to make the case for it in Decibel, in a box in the reviews section not in my column," I have all confidence that he'd say "you got it"; your notion of the editorial standards of Decibel being some tastemongering coven of orthodoxy is, to put it politely, ill-conceived.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 2 August 2010 00:52 (fifteen years ago)
there is a two page sword spread in the same issue. written by an ilxor! and its postive. i think. i still need to read the whole thing.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 August 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)
in a box in the reviews section not in my column
You have a column...?
Maybe I need to get a Decibel subscription, hah.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 2 August 2010 02:30 (fifteen years ago)
mine just kicked in -- totally worth it imo
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but they've seemed pretty predictable to me - and pretty gullible (cf. Watain cover story) for a while.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 02:43 (fifteen years ago)
Which is fine, btw. I don't begrudge Decibel its existence. I'm just saying Albert doesn't run his magazine the way I would in his place. Which should be obvious.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 02:44 (fifteen years ago)
Well, the point is, there's a favorable two-page spread for the Sword right at the center of the magazine this month, wherein they're given much space & opportunity to answer the criticisms of them most commonly voiced. Giving a band a two-page spread certainly counterbalances any claims of editorial bias against the band in question
imo
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
the most damning evidence one could offer, re: Decibel's alleged editorial bias, would be the lack of any pre-1980 platters making it into their exalted HoF. for a while there i had hope that this apparent oversight would be addressed with Motorheads induction. unfortunately, instead of Overkill--possibly the heaviest album of its decade--we got the "no way?" obviousness of Ace of Spades instead; like, y'know, lord lucifer bless the immortal '80s, man! now don't get me wrong, i generally love the rag to pieces otherwise, i just wish they (he?) would address the fucking brontosaur in the fucking living room issue--that being metal in the decade of its very fucking conception, man. long live Metal Mike Saunders, you fucking ingrate whelps! fuck!!! \m/ ^_^ \m/
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 08:57 (fifteen years ago)
^ old fart speaks ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 12:12 (fifteen years ago)
tr00... :'(
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)
No offense to Decibel writers, but I think the magazine now sucks. I just read picked up Classic Rock, they had a great 12 page tribute to Dio with a cool cover and everything. But the "hard rock/metal" magazine in the man's own country: nothing. Screw you.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 2 August 2010 13:52 (fifteen years ago)
FAO Bill http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=373098
― tomas altbrolin (DJ Mencap), Monday, 2 August 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)
that's pretty good. I look forward to the August issue (off to bury my head in shame)
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 2 August 2010 14:01 (fifteen years ago)
10 Hail Decibels for you.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 14:04 (fifteen years ago)
is the brutal truth guy that compares himself to dio in that r.i.p. link above the same one with a decibel column that he uses to talk about how cool he is every month? gross.
― original bgm, Monday, 2 August 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)
nope, different guy.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:00 (fifteen years ago)
dan lilker was in Anthrax
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)
ah. lotta big egos in that band imo.
― original bgm, Monday, 2 August 2010 15:07 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ Necrobutcher's conclusion
A great small man has ceased to be, but the music lives on. R.I.P.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 2 August 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)
i will say that the band on the cover of the new decibel means nothing to me. i didn't even know they existed until long after they had broken up. cuz i'm old like that. kinda cool that the cover actually looks like the cover of a magazine from the 1990's though.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 August 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, the cover is terrific.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
I wrote the Dio obit in the print version, Bill, so address any criticism on that part to me. I'm actually surprised that the Sword record got such a bad review -- but that just means the individual reviewer didn't like it. Other than the occasional small grammar thing or the adjustment of the numerical score (I am, to be honest, actually a little annoyed that they knocked down the score on my Jucifer review), they don't touch the text of the review.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
I must say, the new sword cover hits all of the right nerd buttons for me. haven't listened since their first one, but I thought that was pretty good. I'll prob give this one a shot sometime.
― original bgm, Monday, 2 August 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)
ohhhh man...nice. [drools]must. hear. this. asap.
― deep purple yoda (Ioannis), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)
whoa, full stream of the new thou album on npr.org! awesome.
― original bgm, Monday, 2 August 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)
Early Graves vocalist Mahk Daniels killed in van accident: http://bit.ly/dDr2D6
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
not familiar with the band but that's some sad news for sure. r.i.p.
― original bgm, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
That's sad, RIP.
Hey metal thread -- I saw Yakuza Arkestra at Wicker Park fest yesterday and WOW was it loud and awesome and heavy. We went specifically for their show. I don't know if it will ever happen again, but if so, I look forward to more strategic use of the jazz talent. Ken Vandermark, Dave Rempis, and Mars Williams don't need to hide in the corner. Kelly Lamont (Bruce's sister, I think?) is an monster vocalist as well. Didn't stay for Torche (already seen them, felt tired of elbowing frat dudes for my place on the street) or Baroness (didn't care, had to work today) but it was worth a trip to that area for sure.
Anyway, I liked them well enough before, but seeing them live 2x in one month has made me a Yakuza superfan. Anyone know when Bruce Lamont solo record comes out?
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)
that's a pretty killer lineup
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
Lamont's solo disc will be later in the year. I may know more soon; if I do, will post here.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)
I learned from this youtube vid that he was a student of Vandermark's. Interesting!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6u6ECkxMYE
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Monday, 2 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Vandermark and Mars Williams were part of the Peter Brotzmann tentet + 2 that I saw in a church in Portland back in 2001 or so. One of the craziest things I've ever seen.
xpost - New Enslaved! Downloading now! The only bands with similarly consistent catalogs are Voivod, Opeth, and Rush. I think it takes a progressive mindset and a general disinterest in commercial success to be so staggeringly consistent, forward thinking, and true.
xpost - I gave the Sword a chance live and they were a total dud on stage. They've toured A LOT since then though so I'll strive to keep an open mind.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
I'm a well documented Vandermark fan*, but Rempis is no slouch. Check out Engines or Rempis Percussion Quartet if you're interested.
*full disclosure: i am married to the guy who made this (nate, he was there when i bought tshirts from you at that agalloch show a year ago or whenever that was): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtSYQAtK6RY
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Monday, 2 August 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)
does anyone know what numbers the new Nachtmystium record can expect to do? and/or how many copies of Assassins were sold? curious about how popular "big" metal records like those really are
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:42 (fifteen years ago)
For big critics faves im guessing20,000-50,000?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)
Only the label knows for sure but I doubt it's 50k. That seems like a lot for anything in this realm except Dethklok.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
i was meaning worldwide
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:01 (fifteen years ago)
Ah that's another story.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 2 August 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I just had no idea what sort of numbers we were even talking about here. thanks!
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 22:43 (fifteen years ago)
I think a band like In This Moment will probably hit 50K this time around. Lacuna Coil does about that.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)
selling 50k worldwide is pretty fucking hard unless you are getting lots of mainstream coverage, fyi. poppier metal like Lacuna Coil with tv coverage in their home country & in Scandinavia & Germany can hit it for sure though. if nachtmystium is over 30k worldwide I'd be pretty surprised.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
30k would make a lot of sense -- and I could definitely see those other bands selling more
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
why i said 20,000-50,000 for the big crit bands
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
What's this in my inbox? The new album by The Crown? OK...I think I can make time for this tonight before The Real Housewives of NJ starts.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 2 August 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
New Enslaved is sounding great!
Every year I listen to the new Enslaved and think "I like it. But it's not as good as the last one." And then a week later I decide that it IS in fact better than the last one.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 2 August 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
I've never heard any Enslaved before, but y'all have certainly got me interested
― markers, Monday, 2 August 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)
top 5 working bands easy and one of the best ever in my opinion, remarkably consistent throughout their catalog. get their early ones like now.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I'm definitely going to grab their new one & will look into the old ones too. will report back!
― markers, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
(and thanks!)
markers you should be checking out another thread
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
learning..
thanks for the heads up, bookmarking it now
― markers, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:23 (fifteen years ago)
ok incase anyone somehow misses it ILM : The Top 100 Metal/Heavy Rock Tracks Of All Time - Presented By Our Host, Henry, ILM's Favourite Heavy Metal Dog!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 01:25 (fifteen years ago)
Okay but it seems you are avoiding the real question: does Enslaved hold a candle to Amy Grant?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:04 (fifteen years ago)
may I direct you to the title of this thread & point out that it doesn't say "larger perspectives on underrated aerosmith's various musical opinions"
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:06 (fifteen years ago)
Oh so you would rather I start a separate TS/poll thread, then?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 04:09 (fifteen years ago)
(I couldn't participate, I have not heard Enslaved. Though I did enjoy my mom's cassette copy of Heart in Motion when I was 7.)
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 04:10 (fifteen years ago)
♪ I'm Enslaved for you ♪
― markers, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 04:15 (fifteen years ago)
Jon is right. Enslaved is one of the very best and most important bands in the world.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)
Er, J0hn or whatever.
There are so few bands that I trust anymore. When there is a new Enslaved album in the works, I'm excited, and know that I will buy the vinyl as soon as it's available.
I think Enslaved, Opeth, and to a lesser degree Oneida are some of the only bands in the this category for me.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 10:07 (fifteen years ago)
AND I HOPE YOU DIEEEEI HOPE WE BOTH DIE
― J0n D.
http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7927293642/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/01/jon_davis.jpg
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 13:59 (fifteen years ago)
dude
stop being a dick
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)
dudestop being a dick
New board description.
(Sorry.)
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)
j0hn/aerosmith - have you heard Inherit Disease's Visceral Transcendence yet? Brutal death, came out two weeks ago on Unique Leader, totally fucking blowing my mind right now. They don't break any genre rules, they're just better than almost anyone else I've heard in this realm. Seriously, I think this album will make your month if you're in a mood for the whole "something is really, really wrong with my toilet" school of vocals.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)
no I haven't but that sounds awesome, I'll keep my eyes peeled - I'm not on a lot of promo lists.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
I especially love the fact that there are three tracks with guest vocalists and you absolutely can't tell at all. One gut-gurgle is just like another.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 17:07 (fifteen years ago)
This Sword album is killer. I've always been off and on with this band, but this is a huge, huge improvement over the last two. How this could get a negative review in dB (I haven't seen it yet) is beyond me.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
Perhaps it was the asshole that panned SubArachnoid Space that reviewed the Sword? That guy needs to be fired.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)
It was Adem T3p3d3l3n that reviewed The Sword, don't have the other issue handy to see who trashed SubArachnoid Space. He pretty much trashes The Sword for ditching the "stoner/doom thing" and "Sleep/Sabbath" influences in favor of "12-bar blues" and "Lynyrd Skynyrd or Molly Hatchet" influences. He doesn't like the "extended jams" either.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)
Adam is also from Seattle, but he's not the asshole in question.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 3 August 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)
Are any of you guys familiar with/fans of Christian Mistress? Early 80s-ish justbeforeitallwentthrash metal done right, on 20 Buck Spin. They're from Portland which is Nate's manor iirc - really like their mini-album, may well spend the rest of 2010 stanning for them in my own tiny ineffectual way - tho Fenriz appears to have been doing this for a while so that is proving a boon for them no doubt
― someone who has fainted mid-squeeze at a Real Big Fish gig recently (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 09:51 (fifteen years ago)
I was raving about Christian Mistress in June and Nate followed suit with his own effusive praise. I am nuts about their new album (my review is in the new Sword-slammin' issue of Decibel), it's NWOBHM done right, with a great female singer to boot.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)
I put the CD on in the car the other day and didn't like it much, though it might just have been my mood. If AMG wants a review, I'll give it a fuller listen.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)
I enjoy music with both Sleep/Sabbath AND Skynyrd/Hatchet influences. I dont think ditching one for the other is a good basis for a bad review.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:22 (fifteen years ago)
are you guys basically saying that everybody has to like the Sword or they are posing
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:24 (fifteen years ago)
I'm certainly not, I haven't even heard the new album yet! I was just quoting the review everyone was talking about. I am looking forward to the new one though.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)
^posing.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't quite convinced myself that there's nothing of value on the new Ozzy album, but man, there are some steaming cesspools of awfulness on it. I don't have a pole long enough to see how deep a pit "Let Me Hear You Scream" is, and if I did, I probably wouldn't want to get any of that stuff on it.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)
Do you want to read my track-by-track review of the new Iron Maiden album? Probably not. But here it is anyway.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)
I agree with the review, Phil. Incredibly long album that needs time to sink in, but no tossed-off tracks whatsoever.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)
On the other hand, the new Boris EP with Ian Astbury is totally tossed-off. (Like most Boris records.)
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)
I like the "Rain" cover a lot actually.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:13 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, that's about the only thing I did like.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)
Best thing on it, no question.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about this Boris thing yet, definitely not top tier material. I do have to say I'm very surprised to see Phil call them "deadly dull live", both times I've seen them they've been outstanding.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 August 2010 04:05 (fifteen years ago)
Here's an interview I did with Tommy Clufetos, drummer for Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie and now Ozzy Osbourne...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)
posted already on the swans thread but since i'm listening again right now feel i should repeat how groovy the new swans album is. sadly, my speakers can only handle 120 watts of power.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)
i feel good now.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)
Finally checking out Heliocentric, really not too sure about the new Ocean vocalist. Liked the first couple of tracks well enough, but when the piano-heavy power ballad "Ptolemy Was Wrong" came on, my interest faded quickly.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)
dug the new decrepit birth on first listen. I remember people trashing the production on this one - what's the deal? I've certainly heard worse.
― original bgm, Thursday, 5 August 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
I have been working on the upcoming October Thrones/Christian Mistress tour for weeks. Should have some dates to announce very soon. Likely, they are coming your way. Folks who write for local weeklies, please take note! :)
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
re: Decrepit Birth, the drum sound is terrible.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Friday, 6 August 2010 00:57 (fifteen years ago)
And funnily enough, the City of Fire CD also has a pretty decent cover of "Rain" on it.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Friday, 6 August 2010 01:17 (fifteen years ago)
I've heard about this LA retro-proto metal band Gypsyhawk 3 times in the last 2 weeks. Whenever that happens, I try to pay attention.
Apparently Brian Tattler of Diamond Head is praising them too.
Thoughts?
http://www.myspace.com/gypsyhawkusa
― Nate Carson, Friday, 6 August 2010 02:56 (fifteen years ago)
Jumping into the Boris discussion a few posts up, yes, the BXI EP is totally tossed off and undercooked (minus the "Rain" cover, which bests the overrated original) but that's really part of the appeal, I think. I bet we could come up with a bigger laundry list of *overcooked* collaborative efforts... nice to hear something a bit more nonchalant. It's not anywhere close to the best thing Boris has let out in recent years, but it doesn't need to be. It's a fun, stopgap EP.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 6 August 2010 04:02 (fifteen years ago)
Oh, and Boris are always incredible live, a sure bet for a fucking loud rock show with a wall of drone/sludge/noise tossed in here and there.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 6 August 2010 04:03 (fifteen years ago)
check out ~~~ F&*^ THE MOJO/ROLLING STONE CANON, HERE IS THE ILM ALLTIME HEAVYROCK/METAL ALBUMS POLL RESULTS! - WITH SPECIAL GUEST : HENRY, ILM'S FAVOURITE HEAVY METAL DOG ~~~
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 August 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)
a question for more experienced metal listeners:
is there anything special that a death metal musician has to do while they're playing that's any different from what 'a normal musician' would? what are they listening for to know where they are, to know what to do when? have death metal listeners / musicians worked out an idea of how the elements fit together so that they usually reckon by them? ('then we do this blast-beat section for four bars of the guitar riff, then…')
i'm at the point where i can hear that every band and every style is just as attached to their musical patterns as any other kind of music, but since death metal especially goes out of its way to use patterns that are quite distant from a lot of intuitively meaningful musical idioms—especially where turn-on-a-dime structures and awkward rhythms and time signatures are concerned—i sometimes wonder whether the really technical bands don't just have to learn each song entirely by rote.
and i realize that all performing musicians have to learn each song entirely by rote, but usually they're helped out by working in styles that don't try so hard to thwart so many 'natural' musical idioms. with free jazz musicians, say, it doesn't seem at all mysterious to me how they learn what to do and can re-perform 'the same'. but the rigidity of death metal seems like it makes that work a little differently. (maybe it's more like performing schoenberg or webern?)
(i've been listening to the inherit disease album mentioned upthread, and now i'm wondering what the best way would be to represent the singing in print. )
― j., Saturday, 7 August 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
in the studio death metal is recorded one chunk at a time, one instrument at a time, from what I know. drums first. there is totally a comparison between death metal composition & serialism, imo.
unrelatedly, did everybody hear the spite extreme wing album VLTRA from last year? 'cause some of y'all would dig that. epic structures, lots of looks (opens with a black metal burst that eases into an enslaved-proggy deal but then does a thrash breakdown, all without seeming like it's trying too hard), pretty damn good.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 7 August 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)
Smithy someone asked a question Here that you & chuck might be able to answer
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 August 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)
xxpost - J I think you might need to start a thread on that topic. And I suspect that different bands would give you different answers. If you're a writer, perhaps sending interviews/queries to a bevvy of your favorite artists would yield enough info to make a substantial and rewarding article.
In other news: Rush Time Machine tour was killer last night! La Villa Strangiato; need I say more?
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 8 August 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
i don't know, this seems like a pretty good thread for catching the ear of someone with something to say. i'm not looking to write an article, just to understand metal better.
haerosmith, i'd guess that if death metal is recorded piece-by-piece, that's partly because it's just too difficult—or costly—to record it live, in terms of engineering and getting it right and such. but if they record it piece-by-piece they must have already learned how to play it whole, right?
― j., Monday, 9 August 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)
(i guess the comparison to serialism is helpful because it points out that to perform or record their difficult-to-get-a-'natural'-feel-for music, serialists would have been working from scores. i assume that death metal musicians don't, exactly, since technically they play in an uncomposed/'folk'/semi-improvised tradition, but it would be interesting if they did tend to notate their music more precisely than other metal bands did.)
― j., Monday, 9 August 2010 00:51 (fifteen years ago)
technically they play in an uncomposed/'folk'/semi-improvised tradition
There is no improvisation in death metal. It has to be recorded piece-by-piece not only because the music is complex and requires great precision of execution, but also because the tunings and frequencies bleed into each other, especially with the guitars all downtuned and whatnot. So unless you want the bass to disappear into the guitars (even more than it already does) you've gotta record everything separately and mix it really carefully.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 9 August 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)
well, yeah—i was stressing the 'tradition' part of that sentence. the serialists were part of a tradition that included improvised performance, too, but obviously a long time past.
― j., Monday, 9 August 2010 01:09 (fifteen years ago)
when is Earth gonna make a new album?
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 9 August 2010 03:59 (fifteen years ago)
j,
don't have much to add to this (just a listener myself) but I think that this video that was posted in mordy's listening club thread would be of some interest to you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGrwNM5ROBc&feature=player_embedded
but bear in mind that, even in the context of death metal, gorguts are making music that's pretty non-traditional.
― original bgm, Monday, 9 August 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)
― The world’s most violent pizza delivery man (Alan N), Monday, August 2, 2010 2:51 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
i just stumbled across this stream looking for some tunes to listen to during work and i think i really like these guys.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 August 2010 14:41 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, I really dig this band. they've put out a ton of stuff already but they only seem to be improving with time.
tons of mp3s available on their own site if you're interested:http://noladiy.org/mp3/thou/
degradation of human life, we pass like night from land to land, and peasant are some of the better releases that come to mind.
I still have to give summit a proper listen.
― original bgm, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)
oh cool, thanks for that link.
just wrapping it up now, it's a strong record and i think it's going to sound great when i'm able to play it loud. they're not incredible musicians but i find their limitations really charming. they're kind of like a sludge version of wittr.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 August 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, playing it loud is exactly what I'm waiting for!
― original bgm, Monday, 9 August 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)
Finally gave the new Enslaveda really good listen on the drive home from the Rush show. Wow, they've done it again.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 9 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
gave summit a listen last night. very good overall, and they're getting there, but this is not their masterpiece. more of their "clean up the band's sound and add some embellishments" record. (horns and viola and some other stuff I'm not remembering, in this case.) will be playing this a lot.
and destroyer, on your comment about thou's musical limitations - I've never actually looked into it, but these guys have got to have some connection to 90s hardcore. their lyrics, politics, love of splits, aesthetic, etc. all scream it to me. their musicianship follows with that and I find what they pull off and how they go about it charming as well.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)
Hey Everybody, I've been a lurker on this thread off and on for almost 2 years now. I've really enjoyed all the discussion and recommendations. I'm a fairly new fan of metal. I dabbled in it just a little when I was a kid, but only recently got really obsessive over it. It's one of the very few genres I haven't fully explored. I don't want to go on too much just yet, but I just want to thank the contributors here for a lot of good leads and information.
Most recently I've been exploring a lot of Finnish metal -- death, doom, black, etc. Today I was particularly blown away by doom bands Thergothon and Unholy. I listened to them almost all day at work.
In general, I've been listening to a lot of black thrash and classic death metal, but I'm open to just about anything as long as it moves me or bludgeons me into some happy oblivion.
Thergothon has me wondering what other funeral doom I might enjoy. It's not a genre I thought I'd like that much, but I have listened to a lot of drony and dirgy stuff ranging from the Swans to Birchville Cat Motel.
― seren, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
SkepticismWinter
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:18 (fifteen years ago)
And have a wee look at the poll we're running ~~~ F&*^ THE MOJO/ROLLING STONE CANON, HERE IS THE ILM ALLTIME HEAVYROCK/METAL ALBUMS POLL RESULTS! - WITH SPECIAL GUEST : HENRY, ILM'S FAVOURITE HEAVY METAL DOG (TOP 100!) ~~~Most people here have voted. Lots of black,doom,stoner,death,thrash & trad heavy metal in it so far.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
oh and check out Corrupted.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)
Hey, thanks Herman! Winter looks really interesting.I'll check out the others as well and the poll.
Has anyone heard Atanatos's last album, Beast Awakening from 2006?It's really good blackened thrash with some aspects of death and NWOBHM,and even some subtle symphonic elements.
This sort of mix might sound nightmarish to some, but man, it works so well!I haven't heard anything quite like it.
So much good stuff has come out this year, too, but I've been delvingin the past so much, I've almost forgotten. The new Abscess really stands out for me.What else? I need to jog my brain a bit.
Oh yeah, the Polish band Preludium is supposed to have a new EP due out soon, but it seems to beindefinitely delayed. I'm looking forward to it.
― seren, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 01:45 (fifteen years ago)
welcome, seren!
― markers, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 02:39 (fifteen years ago)
Over at Hellbound I posted an interview with my favourite new Canadian metal band, a wickedly good female guitar/drums duo called Mares of Thrace, whose debut album is a cool blend of Neurosis and the Jesus Lizard: http://www.hellbound.ca/2010/08/introducing-mares-of-thrace/
They're a ferocious live act, and the drummer is one of the better female metal drummers I've seen. Well worth checking out!
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 04:05 (fifteen years ago)
"Thergothon has me wondering what other funeral doom I might enjoy."
Do you have Asunder's last album on Profound Lore?
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 06:01 (fifteen years ago)
Seeing Slayer/Megadeth in east rutherford, nj tomorrow night. Very stoked.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 13:23 (fifteen years ago)
ok, why did I wait so long to listen to the new ihsahn and immolation records? both are just excellent.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
Thanks for reminding me about Ihsahn. New Immolation is good.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, new immolation isn't reinventing the wheel or anything but it's way solid.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
Very solid. And even better live. I just keep waiting for them to out-do Close To A World Below and it keeps not happening. Still have mad respect for Ross and co.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 12 August 2010 03:04 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, seeming them live was what made me think, "why the hell haven't I listened to yet?" every time they said, "this is off the new one" I was floored.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 03:06 (fifteen years ago)
*seeing them live
"a thunderous consequence" just kills
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 03:08 (fifteen years ago)
So the new Kylesa seems to be channeling early-90s indie rock in a big way. You know, back when the big riffs were still cool, like Sugar and Drive Like Jehu. Good stuff.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)
So not just the wrong thread but the wrong board entirely here... but I felt I should say 'Valhalla Rising' is the most metal film I've ever seen! Like Hawk The Slayer for grownups, if that doesn't make it sound too rubbish. Don't want to spoilerize it but if Wardruna were a film, I reckon this would be it. Really ace ambient, drone, Krautmetal/Current 93 meets Coil meets Hair and Skin Trading Co. soundtrack by two guys called Peter Peter & Peter Kyad. There's a little bit about them on the internet but if anyone could tell me if any of their other stuff is worth buying I'd appreciate it.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)
Oh I want to see that so bad. The international trailer looks fantastic. The US trailer is lackluster in comparison.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/valhallarising/
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)
It looks amazing. Kind of like Von Trier, post Dogme 95 but without any of the gross over stylization/perfume ad bits that marred Antichrist but with all of its deranged violence left intact. But in other ways a bit like Greenway... every set up is framed like a painting. And in some ways like a Takeshi Kitano flick... lots of broody, contemplative scenes, that stretch on and on, occasionally punctuated with extremely unpleasant and implacable violence.
But with Vikings. And drone metal.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 12 August 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
Oooh, that does look good.
Synopsis:
For years, One-Eye, a mute warrior of supernatural strength, has been held prisoner - forced to fight for his life and the amusement of his pagan slavers. Aided by a boy, he finds his moment, furiously kills his captors and together they escape, beginning an odyssey through an unknown land. After falling in with a band of Vikings, One-Eye and his young companion find they must confront terrible fate in the quest for their freedom.
― ghee hee hee (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:25 (fifteen years ago)
Don't take this the wrong way cos I do like those bands to an extent, but that sounds really wrong for Kylesa. I missed them with Converge the other week for some reason.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 12 August 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
Some people aren't going to like the album, that's for sure. The sludge has been thinned out a fair bit, with more emphasis on psych influences.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)
seems to me like kylesa have increasingly been steering in that direction for a few albums now. last album definitely had its share of 90s indie.
― original bgm, Thursday, 12 August 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
I'm interested to hear the new Kylesa. Not so interested in seeing Valhalla Rising, which bums me out. I love the subject matter, but hate Refn's other movies. I thought the first Pusher was boring, turned off Bronson and the second Pusher movie halfway through, and never even bothered with #3.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 13 August 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:01 AM
No, I hadn't heard that one but I gave it a listen.It seems difficult to capture the strangeness and mysteryconveyed by bands like Thergothon and Unholy, but Asunder doesnot a bad job of it. I enjoyed Works Will Come Undone for the most part... Thanks!
― seren, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)
Maybe I need to give the new Ihsahn another chance.I found his voice hard to listen to and some of his song structuresa little showy and lacking a good flow. The saxophone is cool though!
― seren, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:23 (fifteen years ago)
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 AM
Man, this band is super badass! I like them better than Jesus Lizard!For me, they bring to mind a little some of the better resurgences of No Wave.
― seren, Friday, 13 August 2010 01:42 (fifteen years ago)
Glad you like!
― A. Begrand, Friday, 13 August 2010 02:42 (fifteen years ago)
Unperson: I've not seen those films but I'm gathering it was more of a personal film for the director and perhaps one he took slightly more seriously. Especially if all the distraught comments on IMDB from angry action movie fans are anything to go by.
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 13 August 2010 07:07 (fifteen years ago)
Locked in, rapping with my corpsepaint and a mullet,Let's see how my sword stands up to your bulletsLike Hecate, I'm enthroned, and if you disrespectYou'll be lying in a Graveland like Oystein Aarseth
I grab the mic, and I drop Norwegian coldnessTruly underground, don't need no radio hitsBringing obscure sounds to your town, you better harkenI bring pride pure white like my homie Rob Darken
I do not like Christians, Samoth-I-AmBurning down churches and I don't give a goddamnNow I'd advise you not to fuck with thisOr I'll disfigure your face, and leave you looking like Mortiis
Marduk duck goose, I choose you to be my victimI rip you up and stab you in the back like Bard EithunI rock cold like a Blizzard, with the mark of a BeastRipping up posers right and left I bring 'em down to their knees
And like the Nightspirit, thus I have spakeDon't try to disrespect, cuz that's a big mistakeLike a Beherit EP, sorry to end so soonBut this is me signing off, Under a Funeral Moon
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)
Amazing.
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)
Wow!
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)
I saw Slayer last night. Ive seen them about 5 times since 1988 and this may be the best show Ive seen. Two words that may be proof that there is a god: Dave Lombardo. I cant even describe how good he is.
― Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 August 2010 15:08 (fifteen years ago)
xp lord custos tribute thread
― Melodic Man - I Need Geir (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 August 2010 15:10 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to Kylesa's new one now. They've finally become great on this album; it's like a cross between Baroness and recent/current Melvins. The double drumming thing really, really works, and they've got these psychedelic/90s indie rock guitar melodies that are just fucking awesome. Highly, highly recommended.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 13 August 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
excited!!!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:35 (fifteen years ago)
definitely gonna pick up that one
― markers, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
damn i have to wait until 10/26? that feels really far.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 August 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
sounds like itll be worth it
oh, man. really excited about that one now too!
― original bgm, Friday, 13 August 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)
got Blind Guardian on pre-order
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Friday, 13 August 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)
I'm agreeing with Phil, the Kylesa's really good. Not as heavy (when they were sludgy they were a less interesting band), but they've really ogt the melodies down now.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 13 August 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't listened to a new Iron Maiden album in 15 years, and haven't liked one in 20, but pfunk prodded me into playing The Final Frontier one, and I like it! Solid, shamelessly unexaggerated and nearly nuanced! Kinda reminds me, in hard-rock feel, of that last Uriah Heep album from a couple years ago. The tonal skew between the music and the cover art has gotten pretty wide, though, and this sounds about as far from a Frontier or a Finality as anything; quite the opposite, it sounds like they're settling into a groove they might be able to sustain indefinitely.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
The Maiden album is holding up beautifully. I'm enjoying it quite a bit more than A Matter of Life and Death (which I really dug)...it's amazing how strong this band still is. And yeah, I love those 70s riffs by Smith on the first third of the album.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 13 August 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)
Like many others, I make fun of Janick Gers for his onstage cavorting, but he's a pretty great interview subject. I talked to him last week, and the results are up now at MSN.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 16 August 2010 02:28 (fifteen years ago)
Nice interview, I really enjoyed that.
AMG's review of the album is really wishy-washy.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 16 August 2010 02:58 (fifteen years ago)
Got a link? I didn't even see it on the site.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 16 August 2010 03:18 (fifteen years ago)
Never mind; found it. Yeah, I think it's much better than Rividividavia does, obviously.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 16 August 2010 03:21 (fifteen years ago)
so it wasn't ned then?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:24 (fifteen years ago)
anybody looking forward to the new Blind Guardian? the first song I heard from it sounded like it harkened back to their earlier days. which is good cuz the last two albums were abysmal.
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
Listening to "The Will to Survive," the previously unreleased song on the 3CD Cowboys From Hell deluxe reissue. I know why it didn't make the album; it's a good song, but it's a real mishmash: the main riff sounds like Van Halen circa 1981, Anselmo's in full Halford/Tate power metal mode, and the backing vocals (and the bridge, and the guitar solo) are howlingly '80s.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)
I wouldn't mind hearing that. one thing I hate about Phil Anselmo is how he let his voice go cuz he thought singing in falsetto is so "gay", I liked his multifaceted voice, I mean he still screamed on the debut!
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Monday, 16 August 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)
It should be noted that, while the new Blind Guardian is quite good, the first single is somewhat misleading. It's a pretty varied album, and while there are a couple of old-school tracks, they also have medieval ballads and orchestra pieces. But then again, I really liked the last album, and the songs that were buried under the production in At Night at the Opera were actually pretty great (check out the stripped down versions on the Live record).
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Monday, 16 August 2010 17:26 (fifteen years ago)
Kylesa - Spiral Shadow, Oct 26. Can't wait! I wonder if it will feature more Baizley artwork? One of the indie guitar influences they namechecked in the Decibel interview was Built To Spill, but I think more for the recording and mixing of the guitars rather than style. They also talked about Flower Travelin' Band, which they've been touting since last year (http://www.crushermagazine.com/features2_09/featkylesa.htm). I like that they mentioned Atomic Rooster too!
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 16 August 2010 19:14 (fifteen years ago)
thanks for the warning Jeff. like, the last studio album was ok for more immediate songs and such, I'd almost say it was like their Black album, but it felt so sterile to me. Night at the Opera was to me the equivalent of being forced to eat a one-ton cake when all you want is a cupcake.
Like there were great melodies/harmonies and such but it was so overblown. The 15 minute lead single from that though was one of my favorites, though it worked on occasion. I did like the live album though admittedly don't remember how those songs sounded on it.
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Monday, 16 August 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)
Kylesa - Spiral Shadow, Oct 26. Can't wait! I wonder if it will feature more Baizley artwork?
I hope not, his stuff has been done to death. It doesn't even suit the Kvelertak album.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 16 August 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)
I love his art. It's sometimes even better than the content of the albums.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 16 August 2010 21:17 (fifteen years ago)
New Bongripper album is streaming over at http://bongripper.bandcamp.com/album/satan-worshipping-doomhttp://bandcamp.com/files/25/38/2538883222-1.jpgIt's a double lp with download or just a download, CD is coming soon apparently.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 August 2010 23:07 (fifteen years ago)
Queensryche's Empire album has always stuck in my craw, it has some good songs and some atrocious ones, a fascinating record but also a bloated one, and the new 20th anniversary edition only hammers home just how much better a band they were before they got all MOR on us. The bonus live disc is loaded with tepid performances of Empire, songs that rely too heavily on backing vocal/synth tracks, but when they do stuff like "Roads to Madness" and "Take Hold of the Flame", it's like night and day, they absolutely kill on those songs. It's a fleeting reminder that once upon a time, before they started imitating Pink Floyd ballads, they were one of the most exciting American heavy metal bands of the 80s.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 08:15 (fifteen years ago)
Queensryche:Empire::Metallica:Black Album
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 14:21 (fifteen years ago)
I am REALLY digging this new Maiden so far. THIS is what I've been wanting from them for years.
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)
new bongripper is fucking awesome. hail satan.
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.bazillionpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/meandev-front-web.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:24 (fifteen years ago)
doubletime drums on the title track have me headbanging alone in my room!!!
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)
ok wow i want that book
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:36 (fifteen years ago)
Blind Guardian is pimping j0hn's Jakarta post on their new album on facebook, lol I love it...
"yesthe singer still sounds like he's afraid of a monsterand yes
his subject matter still comesfrom science fiction and fantasy booksand there's a dragon on the album cover
and then what's more get thisthis dragon, flanked by two dudes with axes,is emerging from a fucking pyramid"
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 23:59 (fifteen years ago)
yes that jakarta post made my day
― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:01 (fifteen years ago)
Blind Guardian is pimping j0hn's Jakarta post on their new album on facebook
dude! kick ass! thank you for the heads up, I am so stoked!
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:03 (fifteen years ago)
Reasons I am wary of that Mean Deviation book:
1) Jeff Wagner is a former Metal Maniacs editor, and the writing in Metal Maniacs is among the worst in all of written English;
2) That cover. The illustration, the layout, the fonts, it all screams "Run away!"
But I love prog-metal a lot, so I'll be reading it.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
xp hahah that's a great post
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
as long as Mike G doesn't write any of the chapters you're good
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
thanks cad! in re: Mean Deviation I could not be more stoked. proggy death is like my favorite stuff - Nocturnus, Sadist, Death (who belong in my opinon in the "proggy death" field) - fuckin love that stuff
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
proggy death is like my favorite stuff - Nocturnus, Sadist, Death (who belong in my opinon in the "proggy death" field) - fuckin love that stuff
Total agreement here, which is why I'm hoping with all my heart that Wagner's become a much better writer than he was in his MM days. The subject matter is something I have enough passion about that a bad (read: amateurish, zine-ish) book will enrage and depress me in more or less equal measure.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:33 (fifteen years ago)
mmmm Death, could totally go for a Symbolic revisit right now. Proof positive that metal is and can be beautiful
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:39 (fifteen years ago)
Haha, Away must have yanked that cover image from the margin of his high school notebook. Not his best work!
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
k this Maiden is seriously giving me an aural hardon....
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 02:04 (fifteen years ago)
listening to the new maiden. "isle of avalon" is the standout track so far - love it!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:45 (fifteen years ago)
the funny thing is I looked at the track lengths when I opened the cd and my heart sank, fearing these were going to be all 9 minute "Nomad"-esque excursions. soooooooo glad I was wrong.
― plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:48 (fifteen years ago)
I thought they pulled off the long tracks on a matter of life and death so I wasn't too worried, but this one seems even stronger.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:54 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really enjoying this Valborg album Crown of Sorrow that Cosmo plugged on invisibleoranges yesterday. Grim and catchy at the same time. I also poked through his list of "similar" bands in that post, since it included the excellent Secrets of the Moon, and of those am definitely also enjoying Semen Datura, who are very much in the Secrets of the Moon vein. And yes, after a few more listens I'm still liking this Iron Maiden record just fine!
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
hey Nate if you stop by the thread, got some ludicra posters in the mail, but no venue or date info included, so if you get a chance hit me up at the email linked to my name below or just post where and when in the twin cities here
thx dude
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)
paging Pfunkboy - I have a question for him. Anyone see him around lately?
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)
ears burning
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
Have you been caught buttering yet?
― Green Manalishi (Viceroy), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)
have you noticed a pungent stench?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:03 (fifteen years ago)
The new Therion album is cringe-inducing. I was a huge fan of the previous band lineup (post-2001), and the new band shows little imagination at all. I've never been a fan of Vikstrom, either. But the songs are incredibly clunky. You take the operatic/symphonic stuff with a grain of salt with these guys, but the hooks are nowhere to be found.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)
I've never been into Therion. I got the one that was supposed to be their best (Theli) but it seems like its from a bygone era that just doesn't click with me. I have a feeling I'd have loved it at the time it came out.
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)
Therion are my dream band, or at least that's what I always think when I read about them. And then I try to listen and it all just sounds so clunky to me. Does make me appreciate Septic Flesh more, though, so that's something.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)
"hey Nate if you stop by the thread, got some ludicra posters in the mail, but no venue or date info included, so if you get a chance hit me up at the email linked to my name below or just post where and when in the twin cities here"
? They played there months ago and have no more shows in 2010. Lost in the mail til now?
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
haha ok im not crazy! no its a second set of posters, so idk if im on some sort of automail thing or what. ill use them to pimp the album to kids that come into the store.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
Funny. Yeah, give them out like candy. Or you know, those Bart Simpson stamps that were supposedly acid.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)
So the new Dimmu Borgir single is quite silly.
Erm, sillier than usual, anyway.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 20 August 2010 08:26 (fifteen years ago)
There was a listening session for the Dimmu album in NYC this week. I got the email but didn't even bother responding.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 20 August 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)
so, anyway, i think the new lustre album is my fave metal of the year so far. i really like it a bunch. super frosty and minimal ambient bm. for fans of burzum and/or stars of the lid. i wish i had the cd though. i've only heard it on my computer. which kinda sucks. having said that, it sounds REALLY good on my computer. so, i can only imagine i would like it even more on my hi-fi.
http://highwiredaze.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lustre_gog_front450px-300x300.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 20 August 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
super frosty and minimal ambient bm. for fans of burzum and/or stars of the lid.
oh man, i want to hear this now
― markers, Friday, 20 August 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)
Got a digital advance of the vinyl-only Wolvserpent (formerly Pussygutt) album from 20 Buck Spin.
Glad they changed their name because this band just graduated from underground gem to top ten of 2010. Ambient doom in the best sense. I'll be listening to this one A LOT--and I'm mostly a "live show" guy.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 20 August 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)
they are playing at my store in october. pussygutt. or, um, wolverspent now.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 August 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)
i will be sure to buy a copy of the album when they come here.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 August 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)
they are touring with this band and both of them are playing at the store. excited to see these guys. they have a new album coming out on crucial blast. atonal, serial, improvisational bm/doom:
http://www.myspace.com/ehnahremetal
― scott seward, Friday, 20 August 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
Enahre I have worked with a number of times. Never seen them live, but they are good guys and reportedly put on a killer show.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 20 August 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
hope my basement can handle them.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 August 2010 22:06 (fifteen years ago)
UPS was supposed to deliver the new Blind Guardian tomorrow. Amazon overachieved again and I got it today, day before street date. What an awesome surprise.
And so far, this album is the album I've been wanting BG to make for the last 7 years. I hope this keeps up.
― the master of unlocking (San Te), Monday, 23 August 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
New Torche song! "U.F.O."
http://stereogum.com/484402/torche-u-f-o-stereogum-premiere/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
The Sword's Warp Riders hit the streets today, and on first listen it's even better than I anticipated. I didn't really dig their first two - perfectly fine for what they were, but I didn't need more by the numbers stoner doom thank you very much. This is something else; the Southern Rock touches are strong to even dominant on a few tracks. Reminds me of a more metal version of Clutch circa the amazing From Beale Street to Oblivion. I expect this will be in heavy rotation for a long time to come.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
had no idea that was out today -- thanks for the heads up!
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
$8.99 at Newbury.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
The Sword album keeps growing on me the more I hear it. I was hoping for an improvement over their last two, but wasn't expecting something as good as Warp Riders.
As for the new Torche, it's a solid CD, but the last two tracks ("Face the Wall", "Out Again") are particularly great.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
thanks EZ, think I'll head out to Newbury in a bit. definitely looking forward to the Torche record to drop. that song Stosuy posted is fantastic
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
Still perplexed at the negative decibel review.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
And I heard a fair amount of Slough Feg in the new material -- I think The Sword were paying attention when the aforementioned band opened for them.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
everyone should listen to Slough Feg then.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
A whole bunch of stuff came out today.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Stargazer, Great Work of Ages (Profound Lore): Stargazer are progressive/arty black metal from, I think, Australia.
hey markers tell your puppetmaster about that, sounds like he would love it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
As long as it falls somewhere close to the "arty Wilco" center of the universe, I think acoleuthic (*cough* MARKERS...) will be able to enjoy it.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ the idea that I'm LJ
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
yea markers hasn't posted about how sad he is about how sexist 80's metal was yet
― the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
deeply regret missing that convo
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
^ booming admission imo
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
hmm is the theory that LJ has created a sockpuppet to act out his subconscious desire to shed his gender guilt?
― the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
"Black Metal Theory Symposium II: Melancology"
http://blackmetaltheory.blogspot.com/2010/06/black-metal-theory-symposium-ii.html
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
no new stuff to report, have spent the last 4 days listening to Cancer Death Shall Rise over and over and wondering why I haven't spent more of my life up until now doing so.
― gg eileen (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
there was a thread where lj hated 80s metal as it was sexist?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
or was it markers? sometimes I can't tell the difference..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
"sometimes"
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
If so please send me a link ASAP. It's been a long day, and I need to inject some humor.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
It's funny how whenever acoleuthic is at a London FAP, markers isn't there... v. suspicious, methinks.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
It's funny how whenever markers is at a Boston FAP, acoleuthic isn't there... v. suspicious, methinks.
O_O
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
See what I'm saying?!!
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
i bet newbury comics has never heard of this "markers"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
weird thing to realize you actually havent been going somewhere for five years ;_;
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
less metamore metal
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
― markers, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
it explains how "both" of you forgot to vote in the metal poll.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
I thought acoluethic/markers voted and that's why the likes of Ulver, Boris and Gorilla Time Museum placed so well.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
no, that was JJ
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
Gorilla Time Museum
loooooool
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
bill's feeling a bit sleepy
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
no there wasn't a thread of LJ calling 80's metal sexist, it was me saying that if markers really was LJ, that's what he'd be saying in this thread.
― the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
but ya know post a few sexist lyrics maybe he'll show up within moments
lj did show disgust at the idea of a hair metal poll
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
but so did a lot of people..
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
at the hair, or the metal?
― ý never promýsed you a Weingarten (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
the mention of those 2 words together still makes grown men over 30 shudder.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
Here's the new "high concept sfx" video from the Sword.
It's not convincing me.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=106319665
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
I have been listening to the new album by Astriaal. 35 minutes' worth of competent but sterile melodic black metal is not the comeback I expected. Not exactly a bad record, just a disappointing follow-up to a great debut and a rare miss from Obsidian.
― Blau, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
man post this on every fuckin thread imo
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
This new Blind Guardian album is so darn good. You listen to power metal album after bland power metal album (Rhapsody of Fire being the latest, bleh), and these guys always come along and outclass them all.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
yea it's awesome. I also rebought Tales from the Twilight World which I'd sold during a brief period where I was dangerously broke....and THAT album is fucking amazing too. I've missed it.
― ý never promýsed you a Weingarten (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago)
It's been a fairly slow month for stuff I like (yay Iron Maiden, but no thanks on Blind Guardian and The Sword), but that just means more time to bask in Celestiial's awesome Where Life Springs Eternal. "Ambient Metal" used to be my joke genre, but here it is.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and due to jabs from JJ and Pfunk I'm listening to this new Sahg album, III. Never heard of them before now, but I'm like this pretty well. It's kind a like taking Deep Purple's most metal moments and pushing them a little way further towards Candlemass.
[gets distracted by something]
Yeah, a few more songs of this have gone by now. It's good. I'm off to find their first two albums now.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
Er, Jeff, not John. But hell, everybody should dig this.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
I'm guessing their earlier stuff is more trad doom than this stoner biker metal album. Following Grand Magus trajectory perhaps?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
It's impossible to not like Sahg. I have high expectations with III...maybe I'll give it a listen tonight.
I wouldn't even call Sahg's stuff doom, it's straight-up heavy metal.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm with you, this is what I grew up thinking of as just Heavy Metal.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago)
Celestiial's awesome Where Life Springs Eternal. "Ambient Metal" used to be my joke genre, but here it is
The Celestiial is a stunner. His first album from a few years back was also a corker; Scott turned me onto it at the time and I seem to remember a Decibel review as well.
I've been trying to get "Damnbient" across as a genre and this sure qualifies.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago)
OK, Sahg I is crushingly awesome, too. And two hours ago I was saying I hadn't discovered anything new and great for a while.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago)
Glad to be of use.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:41 (fourteen years ago)
I saw some of the Sahg set at Roadburn but I didn't really know what I was watching.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago)
I'm starting my morning with Sahg II now, and am still basically agape. How had I not even heard of this band? Because the name sounds like spinach, so my ears filtered it into Food before it reached my brain? Man.
Still puzzled, as I read various reviews around the net, by their being labeled "Stoner/Doom". Is this an age thing? Do people who grew up with later, faster metal as their formative introduction think slower metal must be a result of drugs?
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 13:17 (fourteen years ago)
well a lot of people since the early 90s reckon its only metal if its fast. Met plenty of people like that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
still loving the new Blind Guardian, although I'm starting to think Tales from the Twilight World-Imagionations is the era i liked the best. but this has enough thrashy moments for me.
― funky brewster (San Te), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago)
sounds like I've gotta check out this sahg.
co-sign on the new celestiial. field recordings are a major component of the celestiial sound and it just works so freakin well.
might prefer the less metal one from a few years ago, tho.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
At this point, "stoner rock" has as much to do with drugs as "indie rock" has to do with being independent. It's just a description for the genre/sound.
― blackened symphonic epic porno tech doom-core (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
The 3yo demographic's succinct assessment of Angra's Aqua: "Good." Still making up my own mind. I liked Angra a lot a long time ago, but skipped the 2 or 3 albums before this. Not sure my power-metal affections run as deep, at the moment, as they once did. Although that reminds me that I liked the new Gamma Ray album and haven't played it again recently…
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
at one point I had Angra's first two albums on a special 2 for 1 package. I sold it. I'm really upset that I did...."Carry On" is a great tune.
― funky brewster (San Te), Thursday, 26 August 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
This is awesome: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=145147
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 August 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
Glad to see some Sahg appreciation. I'm really enjoying III right now. You could say their trajectory is similar to Grand Magus. I need to go back to the latest GM to see if I need to buy the CD at Allthatisheavy when the Sahg comes out.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 26 August 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
I much prefer older GM, so I think Sahg are probably better than current GM.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 26 August 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Liking new Drudkh
I like the latest Grand Magus more than the Sahg. Not hearing what others are in III - seems dull and generic. The Sword's latest is much more interesting to these ears.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 26 August 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
"Ambient Metal" used to be my joke genre, but here it is"
tellin' ya, the new lustre album is the one to beat this year.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 August 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
I tell you, this is probably just a dumb coincidence, but it's pretty darn intriguing...Dimmu fans, does this not sound like Vortex singing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=250iKj95l1w
― A. Begrand, Friday, 27 August 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but the video is called Dimmu Borgir featuring Vortex.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, watching the video helped. No idea.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago)
When I posted that video to my Facebook page, the Capcha text was "serfs machine." That made me laugh.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
That Lustre album did nothing for me, sadly. Today's other deletions were Netherbird, Dråpsnaat and Drudkh. But I'm liking this BXI (Boris + Ian Astbury) EP a lot.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 27 August 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago)
hah, i guess the drudkh wasn't different enough for you to like it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 27 August 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago)
Been rocking the upcoming Dusted Angel (ex-B'Last) album today. Wow, what a great band!
― Nate Carson, Friday, 27 August 2010 09:53 (fourteen years ago)
man, this christian mistress album rules. great riffs, excellent solos, nice live band sound, and I LOVE the vocals.
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I didn't like it much on first listen, but it really hooked me the second time I played it. The vocalist reminds me of the singer from Znöwhite. (That's a good thing.)
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 27 August 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
That Znowhite comparison is a really good one. The one comparison I kept thinknig of was Kim McAuliffe from Girlschool. And yeah, this album has steadily turned into one of my 2010 faves. I gave it a very positive 7 in this month's Decibel, but should have given it an 8.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
October Decibel just arrived!! :-D
― markers, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
I hear the cover story is really superduper awesome.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
;-D
― markers, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
THRONES / CHRISTIAN MISTRESS tour 2010
Mon 9/27 - Portland, OR @ Tube Tue 9/28 - Boise, ID @ Redroom Wed 9/29 - Salt Lake City, UT @ Club Vegas Thu 9/30 - Denver, CO @ 3 Kings TavernFri 10/01 - Lincoln, NE @ Bourbon TheaterSat 10/02 - Minneapolis, MN @ Turf ClubSun 10/03 - Milwaukee, WI @ The Borg WardMon 10/04 - Chicago, IL @ The Empty BottleTue 10/05 - offWed 10/06 - Newport, KY @ Southgate HouseThu 10/07 - Lansing, MI @ Mac's BarFri 10/08 - Toronto, ON @ The ShopSat 10/09 - Montreal, QC @ The PlayhouseSun 10/10 - Portland, ME @ Geno'sMon 10/11 - Boston, MA @ O'Brien's Tue 10/12 - Providence, RI @ Machines With Magnets Wed 10/13 - New York, NY @ Acheron Thu 10/14 - Philadelphia, PA @ Kung Fu Necktie Fri 10/15 - Baltimore, MD @ Golden WestSat 10/16 - Richmond, VA @ The TripleSun 10/17 - Charlotte, NC @ The MilestoneMon 10/18 - Athens, GA @ Caledonia LoungeTue 10/19 - Atlanta, GA @ 529Wed 10/20 - Memphis, TN @ Hi-Tone CafeThu 10/21 - Dallas, TX @ Nightmare Fri 10/22 - Austin, TX @ Red 7Sat 10/23 - San Antonio, TX @ TBA (**no Thrones)Sun 10/24 - El Paso, TX @ TBA (**no Thrones)Mon 10/25 - Tucson, AZ @ Solar CultureTue 10/26 - Los Angeles, CA @ SpacelandWed 10/27 - Santa Cruz @ Blue LagoonThu 10/28 - Oakland, CA @ Stork Club (tentative)Fri 10/29 - San Francisco, CA @ The HemlockSat 10/30 - Arcata, CA @ AlibiSun 10/31 - Eugene, OR @ Oak St Speakeasy
― Nate Carson, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
Tue 10/05 - off
lol'd at this -- what a packed schedule!
― markers, Friday, 27 August 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Kim McAuliffe from Girlschool
I really have to listen to girlschool one day. just watched, lol, zombie nightmare, and while it was too horrible to even work as a mst3k episode, the soundtrack ruled and the girlschool tracks sounded awesome.
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
listening to the christian mistress again. love the last track.
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
If you think Zombie Nightmare was a disaster, you need to check out Rock 'n Roll Nightmare -- the last 10 minutes literally exploded my mind.
I'm excited to check out your cover story, Adrien. Readers who aren't colorblind may also catch a giant three-quarter page pink column in the reviews section written by a certain other contributor to this thread...
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
just looked up rock n roll nightmare on wikipedia. lol at the entire "plot" section:
It is about a rock band who end up in the middle of a confrontation between Heaven and Hell.[2]
thrones any good live? records never did much for me.
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
"That Lustre album did nothing for me, sadly."
do you enjoy ambient music or minimalism? cuz that might make a difference. it is more those than it is metal, probably. and, yet, it is metal.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
You don't want spoilers. You want to watch the entire mediocre slasher movie just for those last 10 minutes. It is transcendent.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
haha jeez, thanks a lot j3ff! this forced me to queue it on netflix:
Also includes a documentary featurette about Thor titled "Revelations of a Rock 'n' Roll Warrior."
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
if it does not live up to the hype, you'll be hearing from me.
you and thor
do you enjoy ambient music or minimalism? cuz that might make a difference. it is more those than it is metal, probably. and, yet, it is metal.this sounds good to me. will check it out. i think i looked for it on grooveshark and didn't find the album you posted.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
"listening to the christian mistress again. love the last track."
That's my favorite track too.
@ Alan - Thrones is way better live than on record IMO. Especially his latest set which is pretty eclectic--covering Melvins-ish rock, Sunn0)))-like drones, and high concept/brute force vocoder-metal.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
cool! I definitely want to hit up this tour.
― original bgm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
Readers who aren't colorblind may also catch a giant three-quarter page pink column in the reviews section written by a certain other contributor to this thread...
Is it me, or has it been a really slow year for the girly metal?
― A. Begrand, Friday, 27 August 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
The year started out pretty fallow, but it's picked up a lot recently -- besides the stuff in my column, there's new music from Tristania, and the new Tarja solo album is actually quite excellent -- far better than the last Nightwish.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 August 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
Infernaeon are a just-okay death metal band. But their new album includes a cover of "Creeping Death" with vocals by Oderus Urungus, and that's an idea so brilliant it's just put them into Album of the Year contention.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 27 August 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
It's a fun cover, I'll give it that.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 27 August 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, I like plenty of ambient music and minimalism. Lustre is a kind of thing I like, which was why I was sad about not liking it!
Excited to hear those Tristania and Tarja albums.
"Teeth and Claws", the first track on that BXI EP, is sounding like another shoo-in for my 2010 song list.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 28 August 2010 02:28 (fourteen years ago)
definitely want to check out the Lustre & Tarja records
― markers, Saturday, 28 August 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago)
The forthcoming Kamelot album is very impressive, their best in ages. Very classy, disciplined stuff, doesn't fly off the hamdle like too much power metal does, and the songs have a lot more staying power than I was expecting.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 29 August 2010 09:50 (fourteen years ago)
This Wolveserpent is strongly in my top 5 this year along with Ludicra, Cathedral, Enslaved, and whatever else I'm forgetting.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 30 August 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago)
^ Interesting band, them. I'll keep an eye out for the album.
The new Slough Feg album is as good as you'd expect. Tough to decide whether it's better than Ape Uprising, which I loved, but there are no duds on the new one, that's for sure.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 30 August 2010 08:18 (fourteen years ago)
There's a big article on Eyehategod in the second issue of Burning Ambulance, which is available here, now. End of commercial.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 30 August 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
A couple of the new Slough Feg tracks have been posted at Stereogum. Listening as I post and they sound pretty great.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Here it is. It was done by Santos rather than Baizley this time.
http://thesodashop.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/kylesaspiral.jpg
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 30 August 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
What a great album it is, too. Listening to it with headphones, it's sonically light years beyond what Static Tensions did. Apparently with the creative packaging that Season of Mist puts out these days, the deluxe edition of is going to look pretty incredible.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 30 August 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago)
they should have put that logo on the back cover. otherwise, it looks cool.
― scott seward, Monday, 30 August 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
finally made it to Newbury Comics to buy the Sword record . . . that'll be nice to dig into later
― markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago)
dunno if I've already said this, btw, but I need to go to this show:
TORCHE [...] 10/23 Cambridge, MA @ Middle East w/ High On Fire, Kylesa
― markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
so killer
i'm not a metal fan normally, but i'm digging this new christian mistress disc.
reminds me of the more melodic metal stuff i grew up listening to.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
i should add i love some drone-metal (is that the right term?), e.g., earth.
Daniel, have you heard Torche? I have a feeling there's a chance you might like this:
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago)
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― A. Begrand, Friday, August 27, 2010 3:49 PM (3 days ago)
good article, btw -- I knew nothing about them & really haven't listened to them at this point in my life, but I still found it to be a really solid read
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago)
hm. torche is a miami-based band? that would endear them to me.
if we're talking about the same act, emusic has four albums of theirs. where's the best place to start?
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
I've only heard Meanderthal, which seems to be their huge critical success
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago)
those guys look "art-y."
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
torche? no way.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
I still think the S/t torche is best. but its all great.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
i say this solely based on the playful video costumes.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
yeah live they're basically just bros who are having a blast rocking out
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
i'm very partial to this brand of "melodic, throwback"-type metal. critical metal darlings, like baroness and that masto-what's-it's-name band, are very different, but i can't really pin-down their subgenre.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago)
Torche falls in the "critical metal darlings" camp too, btw -- Decibel's 2008 album of the year was Meanderthal and *checks Pitchfork* Raposa gave it an 8.2
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
pitchfork only loves them for their costumes.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
― call all destroyer, Monday, August 30, 2010 9:45 PM (5 minutes ago)
this is correct
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
my brain skipped right over the word "live" in cad's post for some reason -- I actually haven't seen Torche live, although I'm hoping to change that this year. I've only seen, like, a live snippet or two on YouTube. still, I wouldn't really describe Meanderthal as particularly arty
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
i have never seen a musician smile more during a show than steve brooks does
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, I could see that being true -- Meanderthal is totally the kind of record you can put on if you want to get really pumped about life
― markers, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
Daniel Esq
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 08:36 (fourteen years ago)
Whoops. I was just starting to write when my arm slipped off the desk and hit return. Anyway, if you didn't already know, been skim reading this thread recently, Torche are releasing a singles collection called Songs For Singles on Hydra Head on Sept 20.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 08:37 (fourteen years ago)
Well, it's not a singles collection, just a CD of eight new tracks. The first six are pretty good, the last two are great.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago)
haha i thought you were suggesting me as a sacrifice to the angry "gods of metal."
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 31 August 2010 08:57 (fourteen years ago)
I am sitting here not hating the new Waking the Cadaver album Beyond Cops, Beyond God, and not quite knowing how to feel about that. I mean, it's not like the evolution from total joke brootal death metal to mediocre deathcore is the difference between fish and caveman, but still, considering where they started, competence is a huge leap. I almost wanna pat them on the head and say, "Good job, boys!"
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago)
not that ^these guys are ever likely to be more than a semi-meme on Metal Inquisition for me, but I like that album title
― great British wasteman = u (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
Only thing I know about them is that a bunch of dudes are pissed off they're supporting Napalm Death on tour for some reason
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
I did kind of wonder why I hadn't heard any of them before.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)
The Quest For Fire album unperson mentions in today's release list on msn sounds interesting - anyone else heard it? I generally like stuff on TeePee, and the idea of some Hawkwind/Crazy Horse hybrid sounds like bliss.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
i remember liking the last Quest for Fire, but i haven't listened to it in a long time. they definitely fit on the teepee roster.
― mte, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
I need that Slough Feg album
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, you do. I expect it to grow on me more in the coming weeks.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
Cant see it online anywhere. In related news my vinyl copy of twilight of the idols arrived. Good price too! Need to get Down.... as well, but I can never get that at a good price.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
The new album by In Lingua Mortua is released next week. Judging by this sample track, it will be massive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9X-YzwCU48
― Blau, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
Excellent tour just announced for October/November - Suffocation, The Faceless, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Decrepit Birth and Fleshgod Apocalypse. All across the US and some Canadian dates, too.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
listening to vital remains, dawn of the apocalypse. classic. what's another good one by these guys? dawn is the only one I've ever heard in full.
also, father befouled have been singed to relapse! unexpected but pretty cool.
― original bgm, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
dig this cover btw:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/reviewpics/fathermorbid.jpg
― original bgm, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
hmm. html to bbcode button killed my link. one more time:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=144259
― original bgm, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
The best Vital Remains disc is Dechristianize, with Glen Benton on vocals throughout. He's also the vocalist on Icons of Evil, which is okay.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 3 September 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
duly noted. thanks!
― original bgm, Friday, 3 September 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
Dammit. Dimmu Borgir are touring the US in November and December, and Enslaved is opening up for them. Which means I'll miss Enslaved, because they're playing the shittiest venue in Manhattan.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 3 September 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah it sucks, Enslaved were going to do their own tour in the UK playing at venues like Camden Underworld then they cancelled the whole thing to support Dimmu Borgir. WTF.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 3 September 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
they're playing at the house of blues in chicagoyuk
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 3 September 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
Awesome. I'm just sad we don't get the same bill as the European dates, which are Dimmu + Enslaved + Sahg!
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 4 September 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago)
Just got Salon des Refusés. My (very) initial impression is that it may be the best album of its kind since Mardraum. Give me a week or two and I will probably regret having made this claim, but right now it seems so obviously true.
― Blau, Saturday, 4 September 2010 11:44 (fourteen years ago)
man ive been listening to the Thrones disc and am now very very excited about the tour w/christian mistress
also in catching up with the rest of the world moment, i have just realized that Carcass - Heartwork is way better than I remembered - i think i confused it w/something else that was much more techno drum vibed (yeah i know, i am an idiot)
― BAN BELOUIS SOME (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 September 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
better late than never.
― scott seward, Saturday, 4 September 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
when Heartwork came out, I was like "wow, they sooold out, maaan" Now, I'd say it's one of my favorites from that year, and it's pretty much impossible for me to comprehend how I could have had that kind of reaction to it.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Saturday, 4 September 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
I saw the Heartwork tour. It was very good. But I was also under a similar impression at the time.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 5 September 2010 08:55 (fourteen years ago)
Slayer/Megadeth/Testament was fantastic last night.
Lombardo is so much better now than he was in the 80s.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 5 September 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
would just like to say that I have been listening to the new Therion for the last few days & I disagree with this post. it is just really working on me, love the riffs, LOVE the solos, love when the Hammond drops in. just like this record so much! when glenn writes:
Therion are my dream band, or at least that's what I always think when I read about them. And then I try to listen and it all just sounds so clunky to me.
this has actually been true with me and the other Therion albums I'm familiar with - Deggial & Secret of the Runes. every time I'd try to get into them, it'd be like, this is great musicianship, and a cool idea, but it's too static. whereas the new one is kind of all over the place. it has a confused sort of thrashing quality not musically but in the sense that there are a lot of ideas being thrown out, one after another, just to see how they work: rock vox, opera vox, that completely nuts folk-violin solo. what on earth. and the completely unabashed use not only of choirs but of solo operatic voices is just so weird & great. I love the new Therion!!
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 6 September 2010 05:33 (fourteen years ago)
(yeah i know, i am an idiot)
I stopped listening to Carcass for years because of this. I think the idiocy was widespread.
― Duran (Doran), Monday, 6 September 2010 07:39 (fourteen years ago)
Yup, me too.
― I never realised VNV Nation sounded like the Pet Shop Boys before (aldo), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
Not by me
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
I never listened to Carcass in the first place.
They were from the Cradle of Civilization and played a lot when I was a teenager near where I lived.
― Duran (Doran), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
I was never a Carcass fan either. Tried again when the reissues came out - still no response.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
BTW, my favorite band today is Mexico's Voltax, whose second album Fugitive State of Mind is currently NWOBHMing my laptop into submission. They had a track from their s/t debut on Earache's Heavy Metal Killers compilation in '08, and they haven't moved forward in time one bit since then - they're still straight from '80, a little rough (their gallop falters from time to time, reminding you that real human beings are making these noises), but the vocals are Udo Dirkschneider-esque with a little more upper register screech, and overall it's pretty good, catchy, headbanging stuff.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 6 September 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
I'm glad The Crown are back. Nobody does careening death metal overdrive quite like them.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 6 September 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, September 5, 2010 5:21 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^this tour is kicking all sorts of ass. I loved the show.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
The 10 Funniest Moments in Immortal's New Video: http://bit.ly/brMPiz
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
Fall Into Darkness 2010 is the latest annual festival curated by Nanotear Booking and hosted at Portland, Oregon's finest mid-size club Berbati's Pan.
Past incarnations have boasted earth-shattering performances from Sunn0))), Wolves in the Throneroom, and YOB.
This latest edition features headlining performances from San Francisco battle-metal duo Black Cobra, Cascadian performance artists Fauna, technical US Black Metal excellence from New York’s Krallice, and the undeniable jams of instrumental San Diego trio Earthless.
Diversity of musical styles and lifestyles are celebrated at Fall Into Darkness and the staggering range of just what constitutes art and metal in 2010 will be on display in one masterful set after another.
If you like it dark and heavy, artistic, powerful, and uncompromising, this is the festival for you.
Fall Into Darkness 2010 Festival Schedule:
Thursday, October 7 @ Berbati's PanBlack Cobra, Witch Mountain, Stoneburner, Wizard Rifle8:30pm, 21+, FREE (thank you PBR!) or $25 for 4 day pass
Friday, October 8 @ Berbati's PanFauna, The Need, Rabbits, Embers8:30pm, 21+, $10 (advance), $12 (door) or $25 for 4 day pass
Saturday, October 9 @ Berbati's PanKrallice, Deadsea, Fell Voices, Worm Ouroboros8:30pm, 21+, $10 (advance), $12 (door) or $25 for 4 day pass
Sunday, October 10 @ Berbati's PanEarthless, Danava, Wildildlife, Via Vengeance8:30pm, 21+, $10 (advance), $12 (door) or $25 for 4 day pass
Tickets are available through Ticketweb.comMore information is availalble at http://www.nanotear.com/fallintodarkness
Special thanks to our sponsors Scion and Pabst Blue Ribbon.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 9 September 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
anyone check out the new Stone Sour record? I liked "Bother" and "Inhale" when they came out; I actually bought the first record, but I'm not sure I ever listened to it all the way through. liked "Through Glass" when it came on the radio in 2006. still rep for all those three jams
I like the new single, and I bought the new record earlier tonight. after half listening to it all the way through once & after listening to a couple select tracks a few more times, I feel like I'm probably too old for this? still, it deserves more attention before I'll be able to really say how I feel about it
― markers, Thursday, 9 September 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago)
Saw a skater wearing a Death t-shirt today.
― Metal Lifestyle, Evil, Hatred, Headbanging (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 9 September 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago)
Hey, it was exciting to me!
Also, there's a new Stargazer album on Profound Lore. Haven't heard it yet. But I love them and I imagine it'll be great.
― Metal Lifestyle, Evil, Hatred, Headbanging (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 9 September 2010 09:57 (fourteen years ago)
Whoa. Fauna's playing inside? Like actually inside a "club?" Crazy.
― Brigadier Puddin' Popp, Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago)
Also: Stargazer record is great.
I feel like I'm probably too old for this?
New board description!
I love when markers' teenage nu-metal side takes over.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
lol stone sour
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago)
The first Stone Sour record had some great hard rock tracks on it. Never heard the second one.
Some pretty great acts on that Fall Into Darkness bill. Would love to see Deadsea myself; liked their last album a lot.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
"Whoa. Fauna's playing inside? Like actually inside a "club?" Crazy."
This will be the third time I've hosted them at Berbati's. They love it.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 9 September 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
The Absence's guitarist sent me a list of his five favorite Swedish death metal albums...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, listening to The Absence right now, and they definitely like Swedish death metal. But then, so do I, so I'm digging this.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone heard the new Dawnbringer album "Nucleus" yet? Heard one track from it and it sounds awesome, like all the things I love about this kind of music without the bits I hate. It's out in about a week I think on Profound Lore.
― Moogle, Sunday, 12 September 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
I have it, but haven't had time to listen to it yet. Playing the first track now and it is, indeed, sounding pretty awesome.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 12 September 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
Stosuy posted "Line An Earthquake" from that record on Stereogum: http://stereogum.com/502512/dawnbringer-like-an-earthquake-stereogum-premiere/franchises/haunting-the-chapel/
― markers, Sunday, 12 September 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
YOB > Sleep > Scott Kelly. Cool show though. I skipped the second half of Sleep's set to catch Nomeansno across the street. No regrets.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 13 September 2010 04:21 (fourteen years ago)
Picked up the Sword's new one. I am a sucker anytime anyone adds pre-Eliminator ZZ Top flourishes to their music. (See also: Meat Puppets, Huevos). This is some great shit.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 13 September 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
i never felt much for the sword one way or the other. i like the new one on the first few listens, but i doubt it'll stay in rotation very long. i really enjoyed seeing them live a few years ago, though. they were a lot heavier than the records led me to expect.
― mte, Monday, 13 September 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago)
For some reason I dug out Suma's self-titled debut from 2002 and it is blowing me away. Beefy riffs, stoner echoed vocals, long songs with enough variety to not bore to tears - what's not to love? Does anyone know if their record from this year, Ashes, is anywhere near as good? I remember being a little let down by Let The Churches Burn when it came out in 2007.
I,too, am still loving The Sword's latest. Between that and Quest For Fire's Lights From Paradise my retro-rocking gene is running wild.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 September 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
I got to see Suma at Roadburn last year. So great. Haven't heard the new one.
In other news, Portland's best kept secret Rabbits just signed to Relapse. Very happy about that as they deserve international recognition. Killer high octane sludge band for fans of Karp and Torche.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 13 September 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago)
@Born In A Test Tube - is there any chance you could upload that Dawnbringer album?
― Moogle, Monday, 13 September 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
also they are called Rabbits
http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Feedback/Watership%20Down0001.jpg
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Monday, 13 September 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
Not gonna happen.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 13 September 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
listened to the autopsy demos collection on nuclear war now tonight. pretty enjoyable, especially the 1988 one. earlier demo vox have a thrash vibe that I wasn't expecting.
odds and sods live/rehearsal stuff is mostly useless, unfortunately.
amazing packaging but this one is for the mega fans.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago)
just got the new kylesa, and wow. i'm only halfway through, but it's so much more dynamic than any of their previous albums, without giving up any heaviness.
― mte, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
@EZsnappin... I really loved the Suma album and played it constatnly when I was reviewing it but haven't been tempted back to it since.
New... Gnaw Their Tongues... is killing me...
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
Moogle, don't ask critics to upload album advances. We can get in a lot of trouble for that.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
You can't get in trouble for someone asking, only if you're daft enough to upload stuff.
But when you guys post about albums you have that others dont, dont be surprised when others want to hear it too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
eh even the appearance of improprietary is not good in this sitch--i assume moogle is new, we can kindly tell him that that sort of thing doesnt go on here.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
also: every album comes out eventually! waiting is not a bad thing!!
oh well any excuse to post thishttp://anacarlo.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/father-ted-careful-now.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
haha what is that?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
It's from the sitcom Father Ted
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9xuXQjxMM
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
Just hosted new SF thrash band Serpent Crown last night. WOW, that guy is the best metal drummer I've seen since Lombardo. Their lovely singer/guitarist Dara played some hot leads too. Can't vouch for their recordings (they only have a demo so far), but the live show was full of promise.
myspace.com/theserpentcrown
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
I posted about the Dawnbringer album months ago, but that's easy to get lost in a thread like this.
At any rate, it's one of the finer traditional metal albums I have heard of late.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 07:59 (fourteen years ago)
A guide to Opeth's three live DVDs (new one out Tuesday): http://bit.ly/dn12cv
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
Q: anyone have a good starting point for Hammers of Misfortune? I saw a few of the reissues at my local store but having never heard them I thought I'd turn to you guys.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago)
Cant go wrong with Fields/Church Of Broken Glass.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago)
Fields/Church is good, but I also like The Locust Years a lot.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks gentleman! I'll pick up one of these to start, depending on what's in stock.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
alan's guide to Opeth's three live DVDs: don't watch any of them
― original bgm, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
;-)
everything i've heard by hammers of misfortune—the two (three?) mentioned above and "the bastard"—are all good. i think i like "bastard" best.
i think i need a chart to keep all the members of hammers and slough feg (and ludicra) straight.
― mte, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Everything by Hammers is top notch, but man those Scalzi albums are something special. Can't go wrong with any of those.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
A little birdy told me that the Unholy Cadaver record (pre-Hammers) is being reissued on Shadow Kingdom...
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 04:02 (fourteen years ago)
Cool...
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 September 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago)
shadow kingdom is the best best best label even though some of their stuff is like "ok, wow, are you really gonna sell more than 5 of those" but they are the best
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 16 September 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago)
I'd buy some Shadow Kingdom stuff but I'm too busy listening to the Beatles.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 16 September 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14612-songs-for-singles/
haven't read it yet, but here's Breihan's review of the new Torche
― markers, Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
The Miami trio sits near the top of the underground-metal heap, but they're also the rare underground-metal band happy to come off as regular dudes rather than medieval warriors or swamp monsters.
ugh son
― being a ringmaster's crul (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
The rest of the review seemed fine but what a dumb statement, really
― being a ringmaster's crul (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
yeah breihan should know better
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
obviously writing for his readers
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago)
Big announcement coming tomorrow. Very excited. :)
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
the rolling metal thread is splitting up? will there be a farewell tour?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
Say your goodbyes now.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
RIP
― (markers)___(/O_O)-☞___ (markers), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
where will sockpuppets go now. Do they go to sockpuppet heaven?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
I ordered a demo tape by Dispirit http://www.dispirit.org/ You can hear samples there.
Founding member John Gossard has also been a member of Weakling, The Gault, and Asunder.
So I think his new BM project will interest most of you.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Dispirit is reportedly amazing. I have them confirmed to play a show in December that I'm also not allowed to announce til early next week.
Lots of announcements coming in the next few days! :)
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
I knew you would know them. I've got mp3s of the demo tape and it's every bit as good as you would hope.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
whoa, I have to check this out. weakling and asunder were both pretty great.
― original bgm, Thursday, 16 September 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
I have the gault lp too, its great.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 September 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
never heard of that act. another one for the memory banks!
― original bgm, Thursday, 16 September 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
The Gault was gothic metal at its best. Swans fans take note!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't mentioned Dispirit much because Gossard wants the band to make a name on its own (without alluding to his previous projects). It's sort of an impossible mission though.
Ultra psyched to see them live!
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 September 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
so aquarius records acidentally sent my two copies of njiqahdda - "yrg alms." i notified them of the error and offered to send one back, but they told me to just pass it along to someone who might like it. rolling metal, i offer it to you.
njiqahdda are a couple guys from illinois who play a spiritual, k.i.p. mix of black metal and post-rock. they also sing in a language that they made up. it's not the most amazing stuff ever, but i dig it. post here and ilxmail me if interested and i'll gladly ship it to you!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 September 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds intriguing for sure. I trust aQ's taste in stuff they pimp, for sure.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 18 September 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago)
Why am I typing like that? I'm exhausted.
That sounds pretty interesting. How's their made up language? Sigur Ros? Cocteau Twins?
― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 18 September 2010 08:21 (fourteen years ago)
according to them, their made up language is a mix of germanic and scandanavian languages, greek, arabic, and english. there is an entire lyrics sheet in the made up language, so they have obv put some effort into this.
anyways, first person to ilxmail me a shipping address gets it. no shipping cost or anything.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 September 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago)
Love Njiqahdda. Several EPs behind (they're uber-prolific), but loved everything I've heard so far. Good to see them getting a mention here.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 20 September 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't seen any mention of this on ILM, but it's fucking awesome.
That's the UK Sacrilege - Reaping The Demo(n)s - 2 discs of demos and live stuff from 84-87 - really excellent crusty thrash metal with female vocals.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 20 September 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago)
super lame that the Kylesa isn't coming out for another month
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
But Dawnbringer's Nucleus is out tomorrow! Everyone should be rejoicing.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 September 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
true! maybe I'll check it out
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
Ok here's my huge announcement!!!
http://www.adultswim.com/metal
Adult Swim and Scion have curated a free download metal compilation. It's killer, and we're on it.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
sorry for the n00b q but which one r u?
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
Winger
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
ah awesome congrats d00d!!
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago)
uh there's no band named that on the tracklist
Nate is the drummer for Gay Dad Witch Mountain.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
ah! will have to check 'em out. congrats Nate!
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks guys. We are flabbergasted to be in such good company. 13 years we've been waiting for an opportunity like this.
It's funny that we're between Saviours (who played right before us at last year's Fall Into Darkness fest) and Isis (who we played main support to on the Celestial tour). It's like metal history is cyclical or something.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
the heaviest bands in existence! congrats dude.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
right on, nate!
― original bgm, Monday, 20 September 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
It's like you're the tasty iron filling in a heavy metal sandwich. Congrats!
― Duran (Doran), Monday, 20 September 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
Wow, that's pretty damn heavy.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 20 September 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
Congratulations Nate! And the song sounds great.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago)
New Torche is good and I'm currently enjoying new Envy!
btw since there's chat on ILE about an I Love Football board, anyone for or against an I Love Metal? (not im not for or against it, just wondering what everyone thinks)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago)
against--no reason to break up ilm
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:34 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds like it would get more use than a board made for NOIZE dudes.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago)
i see what cad is saying, at the same time rolling metal thread is unwieldy and murder to find things on. you cant just revive it like you can with individual threads, but most metal bands you cant start a thread on as you might get 1 or 2 replies.otoh i think some are put off posting to rolling metal thread as theyre not a regular
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:37 (fourteen years ago)
I know I find it very hard to just jump into the rolling metal discussion. And one thread for all of metal just isn't enough, IMO.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago)
then make 2 rolling metals per year. this is an extremely friendly thread btw so no one should be put off from posting.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:39 (fourteen years ago)
i think people should be encouraged to make threads for individual bands if they want. i would hate to see ilm balkanize.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago)
plus a lot of chat about albums on this thread is journos who have promos who hear stuff months before the rest of us do, that's not so great, individual threads on a board allow you to revive.bur, the thing i like best about the rolling threads are the community feel of it. all mates together, but i can see how that's offputting to some. but I dont think we're clique-y at all, are we?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:41 (fourteen years ago)
i think cad might agree with me on the latter!
i dunno every time someone has come in here asking abt something or looking for help i feel like they get multiple useful responses
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
i do agree that it's tough when discussion about an album happens months apart, but for bigger albums someone should just make threads for them or use a thread for that band
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
problem is, even scott complained about all the metal threads on ilm.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
scott is ornery tho
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
better not let him MOD it then :)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
you could still have this thread, and leave the sub-board for threads on individual bands & albums.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago)
unrelated but you guys should totally get a football board. not because football threads "clog up ile" or whatever, i just think you all would have a lot of fun with it
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
i know, but it's the football fans who are against it!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
yeah they don't know what they're missing
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
ilh and ilnfl are the two best boards on the site
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
for the same reason you wouldn't like a metal board. but threads on niche stuff not clogging up the main board makes sense. It works for other sub-boards.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
i kind of understand that for ile, but why exactly does ilm need to stay "unclogged?"
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
dunno, im not one of the ones who complain about new answers being clogged up. but then again I dont use site new answers.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago)
i use sna. i don't even hide threads!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
i mean boards
Just got to hear the Christian Mistress record - holy hell is that great! Rhythm section had me bobbing along, and Christine Davis' delivery is emotional and real, perfect pitch be damned. Great, great listen. Thanks to all on here that have repeatedly brought it up.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago)
I would visit an I Love Metal board. It would keep me from getting caught up in annoying discussions about contemporary hip-hop and other things I shouldn't really be wasting my time thinking about.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago)
This thread (and the people on it) = 90% of the reason I check this site.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
The other 10% is the Rush threads, right?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
i didn't expect phil to be in favour of a separate board tbh
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago)
even if we all agreed to get our own board, I wouldn't know how to go about getting it, plus who would mod it?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
against--no reason to break up ilm― call all destroyer, Monday, September 20, 2010 9:34 PM (1 hour ago)
― call all destroyer, Monday, September 20, 2010 9:34 PM (1 hour ago)
cad otm
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
I wouldn't mind a separate board - I have less and less interest in the general discussions as the years go by - but I don't see it as a necessity.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:05 (fourteen years ago)
rolling threads/big bands/existing threads would still exist on ILM. Board would be for smaller bands/albums or even rolling BM, Rolling Doom, Rolling grind, Rolling Shite Metallica Album, etc etc
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
Rolling Shite Metallica Album
can this be its own board too?
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
Shite Metallica Albums: The Board
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
you just want an I Love Markers board, admit it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
Isn't that covered on ILTMI?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:11 (fourteen years ago)
Was just listening to that Father Befouled today, really really digging it.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
So who is for or against a separate metal board then while still having a rolling metal thread on ilm?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago)
in all seriousness though, there's no I Love Rap board or no I Love Dance Music board -- I just think we'd be setting a precedent that's not worth setting. ILM is ILX's music board, and that's how it will probably remain
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago)
who cares about other boards though? hehe.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:15 (fourteen years ago)
we're pretty much independent from the rest of ILM anyway, no?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago)
let me put it this way: are there posters holding back on posting things to this thread for fear of flooding it? like, if there were a Rolling Grindcore thread on a separate metal board, would there be enough people posting to that thread? and would there be enough people posting to all the other separate metal threads that would inevitably arise too? it's not like the number of posters on ILM invested in metal is huge afaict
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago)
I hold back posting on this thread for fear of posting "old news" or whatever...
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago)
As in, I may find out about an album months after its been released and love it and want to talk about but the threads moved on...
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago)
discussion gets lost on a lot of bands in this thread. If you don't discuss it when someone has the promo its very easily lost.
And yes, people just wont start threads for smaller albums,genres,labels for fear of flooding.
Even a trial for 3 months to see how it went would be good.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago)
and yes, if you wanna discuss old bands/albums this thread isnt really for it.
you could all design a metal css stylesheet for it!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
imagine the arguing over which I Love Metal Logo to use, lol.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago)
Why not just have a Rolling Metal Pre- [whatever the year is] Thread? Talk about what you like with like minded folks who probably have something to share. Or just bring it up here anyways - I asked for some tips as to where to start with Hammers of Misfortune and I got a bunch of opinions and help.
I haven't heard any slams on people bringing up stuff later in the year either; I expect another discussion about Enslaved when that drops even though a number of critics have already said their bit, and I hope someone else listens to the Christian Mistress I mentioned earlier if they haven't and brings it up again.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
it wouldnt just be metal, it would be heavy rock too. All the Glam Metal fans would have fun on it too. The hardcore punks as well. It would cater to all sub-genres of metal that doesn't really get discussed by the general ilm posters (ie 99% of them)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
EZ , as i said, this rolling thread could still remain on here. That wouldn't change, but a separate board for other stuff would be better I think. We're pretty much a community of our own anyway.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
I know - just think that the rolling threads let one band remind someone of another album and then the conversation goes there and then somewhere else, jumping, spinning, digressing and enlightening. If I could discover old stuff the same way and not have to read 40 six-post threads I'd love it.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago)
rolling threads just get so unwieldy and it would be nice to have all the info one one band on one thread, so it can be searched for future reference, like i said, most of us dont get promos. I think some ilxors are put off as this thread can be mostly music crits sometimes.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
Let me put it this way; If this were a rolling dr. who thread (not the one that actually exists, a hypothetical one) it would consist of long discussions about one off-characters, what else they did in British TV land -- how they played a similar character in an episode of Blake's 7 and then landed a part on a sitcom where it seemed like an odd fit. There'd be bitter divides over what to call the front bottom part of a Dalek (a grill, a skirt?), and what Terry Nation's real intentions were for the pepper-pot villains. There wouldn't just be talk of old episode plots, but detailed biographical discussion of the writer of the episode, what else he wrote during his career as a TV writer, his venomous relationship with Barry Letts and how he just reused all his plots later in underwhelming NA target paperbacks (and anyway stole them from Douglas Adams to begin with!). There wouldn't just be people talking about the cheesy old alien costumes, but discussion of the blokes in the costumes and how they were also key grips for the 12th-15th seasons and once also played one of the bionic tribesmen in "Four to Doomsday."
Now if you are someone who has seen some of the new series and maybe, just maybe, caught Genesis of the Daleks on dvd and want to talk about your new favorite show... does such an environment seem very inviting to you? Even if everyone is really awesome and polite, you still might feel kinda dumb and out of place - no?
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago)
Haha, great example and one that probably applies to me. I can only think of four, maybe five people that would care or discuss that much detail and tbh we don't do it here because there are other places on the internet for it. Good God, the Doctor Who thread that follows the series argues every year about what constitutes a SPOILER and what doesn't FFS!
As others have said, I think balkanizing ILM is a bad idea. There's lots of good advice of here for people that come looking and the only time I lose the place with it is if I'm away from a computer for > 1 week (although iPhone is now helping with that). Keep it the way it is, I come here a much for the people as anything else. And no, I probably wouldn't post that much to the Rolling Grindcore thread on the hypothetical board.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago)
I'll go one step further - I Love Cooking. Seemed like a great idea at the time, now no discussion about cooking on the main board (food, yes, but it's not the same thing) and apart from the Rolling Cooking thread the place is a desert.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 08:21 (fourteen years ago)
yeah this is a ridic idea and I really don't know why it's even being talked about, all the arguments for it appear to be largely based on devil's advocacy?
― being a ringmaster's crul (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago)
not that I read them but I have visited the Hellride forums and they have sub-boards for every last nebulous genre of metal/heavy rock within their remit - surprise surprise it's chock full of aspie douchebags
― being a ringmaster's crul (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 08:47 (fourteen years ago)
I'm just a lurker so my opinion probably counts for less, but I think it is a really bad idea to split off every genre into its own little board. Where do you stop for one thing? And as someone who is a bit of dilettante when it comes to sampling a broad spectrum of music, I can't understand why you would want to ghettoize music taste like that.
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 10:03 (fourteen years ago)
I vote retain rolling metal thread, no need for further Balkanization of ILX.
Also- congrats Nate, looking forward to listening to the sampler!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago)
Just picked up the Neurosis - Live at Roadburn 2007 disc yesterday. Anyone heard this?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:17 (fourteen years ago)
there are really two solutions here:
1) just post in rolling metal, we're REALLY nice and we don't care if you bring up something that was already discussed
2) if you don't want to post something in rolling metal for some reason, start a new ilm thread!
also rolling metal is really easy to navigate, no one really posts images and i expand and ctrl+f rolling metal all the time
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago)
I think keeping this rolling thread for new stuff and starting another one on ilm for older stuff is fine. but stating a new board strikes me as overly complicated and as a move that would discourage new folks from joining in, if anything.
but honestly, I often post on here about records that haven't come out over the last few years. sometimes discussion starts up, sometimes it doesn't. no big deal. I view this thread as a place for off-the-cuff discussion about metal records, not strictly 2010 ones.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago)
haven't heard the neurosis live disc. how is it?
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
and the rolling metal thread really is filled with nice, non-judgmental people! everyone should feel free to bring up anything in the metal universe they please, imo.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago)
well i wish more would post here rather than just lurk, why do you lurkers not post here?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
Not sure, I haven't had a chance to listen yet -- but I'll let you guys know.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
This bit of ILM is significantly more welcoming than most of the other genre threads, IMO.
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
Rolling Metal is pretty nice and awesome in general.
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
Also, new Torche out today. Looking forward to it.
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago)
argh there would still be a rolling metal thread here, the board would be for other stuff that doesn't get much discussion. 99% of posts here are about new albums/promos/leaks.Viceroy already explained why some people don't join in here and its just the same old posters. He feels a board would welcome non-diehard posters other than just the usual suspects.Why cant we just trial it until the end of the year see how it goes?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
as a lurker, i can't guarantee i'd take part on a full board, either, but i would kind of welcome some smaller discussions of specific artists/styles/eras/albums/whatever. i love this thread, but it does tend to follow a promo/leak schedule. i mean, i get promos, but i get them pretty late (i work at a weekly), and usually discussion's already passed by.
i like the idea of a trial run.
― mte, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)
metal's part of music, is covered under "i love music," no need for a separate board in my opinion.
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
but pfunk having a rolling thread here AND a subboard would be even more confusing and ppl would have no idea where to post anything
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
i actually want to know what would be getting posted on this new board that couldn't find a home on "i love music"
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
i would say, if we want to try something, try creating more metal threads on ilm first
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, there are a bunch of rap threads -- if you want to discuss some specific metal genre or artist, just do what cad said
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
I mean, we have a bruno mars got arrested for cocaine possession thread, so I don't think people will protest a "specific metal band" thread or a "what's good in grindcore right now?" thread
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
yeah we act like more content-filled ilm threads would be a bad thing
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:14 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^this
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^also this - I stated, in writing, my intent to post more on the bobbins thread this year but a few weeks in people were so fucking insufferable that I could hardly be bothered looking at it after that
― Heurelho Gomes & The Scene (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
look why cant we have a 3 month trial run. If the majority at the end of that want to scrap it, we do?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago)
Remember by creating more threads on ILM they will drop off new answers page very quickly. All I'm asking is we have a 3 month trial. If anyone wants to keep this rolling metal thread going at the sametime then thats good too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
man, seems like you're hellbent on starting this but I just don't think most of the people on here really want it to happen.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
^
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
for the record, I'd prob post on the metal board because I like metal threads. but the idea strikes me as a bit unnecessary.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
bit like markers above "post"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago)
Herman <3 bro but admit that if you get this you will start linking to all the polls you start on I Love Metal here on the rolling metal thread. and reminder posts that the polls are closing. etc. And it will be a drag, and you will say, well if you guys would just move it over to I Love Metal, I wouldn't need to keep doing this! And it'll be just unnecessary tension. I Love Jazz, I Love Rock, I Love Pre-Baroque Polyphony...none of these are needed, because we Love Music generally speaking.
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
nope, i wont smithy. How about we have no polls on I Love Metal?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
Who says yes to a 3 month trial (with no polls)?Who says no full stop?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
I'm against it.
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
polls are very much an ILE & ILM thing as you need a lot of people for them. A separate board would be all discussion led.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago)
think u know where i stand
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago)
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
Well I for one don't post much in general on ILX because I don't have the time - I waste enough already reading it without getting into actual discussions. Specifically I don't post on Rolling Metal because, like I said, I am something of a metal dilettante and I have only become an active listener in the last couple of years. I really have no idea about what is going on in the scene, what is being released etc - Rolling Metal/ILM is the only resource I use for metal, except for the rare occasions when the Wire has an article on it. If Rolling Metal says go listen to this band I do; if a band isn't mentioned on here, then I probably will never get to hear them - so no pressure guys!
When I have posted, everyone seems very friendly. The idea that someone would be intimidated by a message board does not compute for me.
ps no to the 3 month trial as well.
― ears are wounds, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
count me as a "no" as well. sorry, dude.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago)
What about an I Love Satan board that just coincidently has a ton of metal threads on it? eh???
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
no need for a separate board imo. personally prefer Rolling Metal + bookmark to keeping track of a whole new board.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
i vote yes on an I Love Satan board, however.
I vote no on I Love Satin. Got to draw the line somewhere.
So, back to the topic - anyone picking up new stuff today? I'm intrigued by the Opeth live DVD/CD set (though not sure if I want the cds or not) and Dawnbringer looks promising based on the one song I heard.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
gonna pick up the torche. know nothing of dawnbringer beyond mentions here--what kind of stuff is it?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
Ok, looks like nobody seems to be much into the idea. I think at least a trial run of an I Love Metal board is a good idea. I would post a lot in it, and I don't post much in this thread because like I said, you are all very nice and way more easygoing than others on this board -- the point is the lightning quick very deep discussion of things that don't even come out for months loses a lot of people who would otherwise love to chat about metal.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
There is a Dawnbringer song you can stream at the Profound Lore site - I'm crap at descriptions. The song is called Swing Hard
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
do you all think a dedicated board would get more posters beyond the regulars on here since this thread is offputting to some for all the reasons previously discussed? Or would that be a bad thing everyone just likes the thread exactly as it is now with no noobs?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
Viceroy, just start a discussion here on whatever; there are always people talking across one another, like a group of friends at a dinner table. Often times, bringing something up that's been abandoned by critics upthread gets them to post impressions of living with the album for months and what's changed. Adrien does that pretty regularly (when he's not out touring the old country like he is now).
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
I vote no. Seems unnecessary. I'm always happy to discuss a record I've had for a few months when I'm not crazy busy like I have been recently.
New Cradle of Filth is actually quite good. Still has some Filth-as-usual, but they play around with enough unusual classical melodies to make it worthwhile.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
plenty of noobs come to this thread and it's not really that intimidating. besides which, it's not like the discussion is suffering for lack of new blood. this thread does a great job of being metal central. if an album/band/event merits further discussion, I, or anybody, can start a thread about that album/band/event. starting a new board just seems really pointless to me
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
pfunk that's bullshit man no one here ever said they wanted to exclude anyone.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
dont you find it annoying though that you need to wade through crap on stuff like dummy burger or cradle of filth just to find one post on an album (and its always a promo/new album) and the discussions moved on, then if you try to restart it, others just ignore it and talk about more new promos. This thread should be more than just for journos
xpS HAH
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
there are always people talking across one another, like a group of friends at a dinner table.
this is a perfect encapsulation of what's good about this thread
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
FYI: If you only find one post there wasn't a discussion at any point.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
dude I don't know how thin-skinned a person has to be to find this thread intimidating but that person should also probably avoid perilous daily expeditions like going to the curb to get the newspaper - never know if somebody'll say something mean to you while you're out there.
Herman are you just gonna ignore the evidence that the things that bother you about this thread *don't bother many other people, if any*? you're here evangelizing for an imagined cause that's more "Herman's complaints about the metal thread"
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
sometimes you dont get a discussion as a bunch of promos come out and something might get ignored.xps
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
smithy, iirc its not just me, viceroy has made complaints and mte and unperson also liked the idea of a board, so it's not just me.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
so then.....start the discussion! if ppl want to talk about it, they will.
i'm pretty sure i said this to you when we were arguing about polls or something but dude you can't *make* people do things.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
I was a noob back in 05/06 and just started reading the rolling thread and asking questions - I had dropped metal for about 15 years so was hopelessly lost. Aero, Adrien, Scott, Unperson and the everyone else answered my silly questions, gave me lists of things to check out and have been the most convivial guides to music I've ever met. As I said before, it's like a table of friends, and as more people show up we all make room. It's like we're the metal Olive Garden.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Stop spamming the thread. As someone very intelligently pointed out up thread, the rap guys don't seem to have any difficulty starting new threads for every artist/song/individual beat that catches their fancy. If you don't want to read about Cradle of Filth, ignore those posts. It's pretty simple.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
spamming? ffs
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)
you brought it up, we discussed it, there was a vote, ppl voted against a board, we're still discussing it--what else has to happen here?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
This thread is just fine for general metal discussion, and I've seen plenty of new threads on ILM about the "bigger" metal releases in any given year. No need for a separate board. I'm not a journalist, I buy shit on its release date on CD (lolz) or, in many cases, even later if I decide to wait for something to come in used -- and I'm not opposed to bringing up an album that's been out for a while to revive discussion. If anything, as someone mentioned above, it lets those who've had the album for longer give their more developed/informed opinions a second airing.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
yeah "bigger"
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
J3ff how does the new Filth compare, say, to Midian - or in my mind, the "last good COF album."
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
there was a good cof? lol
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
cad, thats fine, its not gonna happen, i just resent being accused of "spamming" by jeff just because he doesn't like the subject.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
It's not as good as Midian, which is my personal favorite because it was the first thing of theirs I heard and because it's got the catchiest songs they've ever done. The new one hangs together nicely as an album, though, and if there aren't any obvious "singles," it at least feels like they've jarred themselves out of the rut they've been in for the past decade. I'd say it's comparable to Cruelty and the Beast -- beyond the fact that both are concept albums about evil women.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rjtr92WzMCo/SnDiVI8IvzI/AAAAAAAAAgM/5xMNIxGMV6M/s400/headdesk.jpg
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
seriously have yall ever tried to be the new guy in a rap thread
have yall ever been the new guy and tried to ~find~ the rap thread
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
hahahaa i remember being like "wow they have an entire thread for snap music, these guys are intense"
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
wait new torche what
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
new 8-songer out today
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
It was boring to my ears but I can see how a few old men would enjoy it.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
ilxor, those type of image "zings" that ruin the rest of ilm really should not be welcome here, seriously FUCK THAT SHIT
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
pfunk, since a board doesn't look likely, then the only thing you can do is start more metal polls to get more discussion on separate bands outside of this thread.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
or you could, like, start threads about those bands
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
I won't post image zings if we can stop talking about a new board and get back to metal. Deal?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
I just wanna clarify - I was open to the idea of a metal-only zone 'cause it would keep me from getting lured into bullshit discussions with empty-headed zeroes about pop music. I'm just as happy to post here, and start a thread specifically for a new album if I feel it merits one. The structure of the rolling thread doesn't bother me.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago)
bullshit discussions with empty-headed zeroes
can we pleeeeeeeeease make this the board descrip for all of ilx
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
just snagged the new Torche and Swans -- completely forgot that the Dawnbringer was coming out today
Torche record clocks in at 21:47. There's a sticker on plastic wrap that includes the quote: "'It's a bunch of radio rock bullshit.' - Rick Smith (Torche Drummer)" which I thought was pretty funny
― markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
this is for jeffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbx6QUoGpdY&feature=player_embedded
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
i am late to this discussion because i was at WORK but let it be known that i am against a new board as wellit's all i can do to keep this bookmark updated and come here occasionally to post about things i am excited about, like, say
----> the release date for the new agalloch!! nov 23!! so excited!! am thinking of going to CA for holiday break just to see another show. <--------
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
also this I Love Jazz, I Love Rock, I Love Pre-Baroque Polyphony...none of these are needed, because we Love Music generally speaking.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
shit! new agalloch release date is pretty close!!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
That's great news! I heard it was done but not when it was reaching us mere plebes. Early birthday present! Wait - that means my birthday is on Thanksgiving Day this year; color me bummed about my birthday.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
i normally listen to pharaoh sanders all day on thanksgiving, but maybe day after thanksgiving will be annual agalloch day. i got the vinyl box set for my birthday (!!) so i am excited to listen to all of them all day as i avoid going outside/any area where there will be "shopping"
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
That may be the greatest thing I've ever seen.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
I knew you would like it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
man, that agalloch vinyl box is expensive! any us distros carry it? (even so, I imagine it would still be way too expensive.)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
whoa, there's an enslaved one on the same label. and (lol) pelican.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
it was a very special birthday :)
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
happy 50th!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
thanksit's a pleasure to be this old and still look this good
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
hey aldo what do you think of the new Envy ? They never disappoint, do they.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago)
First opinion of Envy is always that they are as incredible as something that is incredible. They normally tail down to just awesome by play 3 or 4 but I haven't got there yet. Otherwise business as usual, one of my favourite bands. Wish more people loved them.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
I thought they were an emo band or something? is this the same envy?
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
Envy are a Japanese band that started on the periphery of scream but have emerged into this post-rock-hardcore behemoth of overwhelming scope - listening to the split with Thursday and Abyssal, for instance, you'd scarcely believe they were the same band.
They may well also be in the top 5 loudest bands I've ever seen, and that list includes Swans touring Children Of God.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
japanese,screamo i guessxp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
lol iPhone corrections. Search: All The Footprints You've Ever Left Behind And The Fear Expecting Ahead and the Abyssal ep. Then come back and thank me.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
There's a new Triptykon EP coming out 10/25. It includes two new studio tracks, an alternate recording of "Crucifixus" and live versions of Celtic Frost's "Circle of the Tyrants" and "Dethroned Emperor," with Darkthrone's Nocturno Culto on lead vocals. So yeah, you need it. And they're touring the US with Yakuza!
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
Woo hoo!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
AND I just finished a phoner with Rob Halford!
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
Now you're just rubbing it in. Have you had a chance to throw the Dawnbringer in the cd player (saw you tweeted it showed up today)? Still curious and probably buying it, but the more impressions the better.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
There's a new Envy? Sweet, must check that out. They were great when I saw 'em at ATP a couple of years ago. They don't tour outside of Japan very often, do they?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
The Dawnbringer is great. I talked about it a week or so ago on Twitter based on a download (from the label; if it's leaked, I don't know about it). Very NWOBHM but with a LOT of other good stuff thrown in, not purist retro-ism at all. If you like Iron Maiden circa 1981, you'll love it; if you like Pharaoh (modern-day Midwestern power metal), you'll love it, too. Just a really, really solid metal album.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.heavylaw.com/taverne/agenda/2047_0.jpg
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 02:29 (fourteen years ago)
This album cover raises many questions. Primarily, why does the werewolf have a scythe? Doesn't that defeat the point of being a werewolf? Also, why is it riding a horse? Don't werewolves eat horses? It's kind of one of the things they do. Many mysterious mysteries.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago)
that is fabulous
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago)
My guess would be that the chap's not a lycanthrope but a horse riding demon with a wolf's head, who's come about the reaping.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 08:33 (fourteen years ago)
He must be hot with that cloak on as well.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 08:34 (fourteen years ago)
PMSB: The level of vitriol that's been directed at me on various RnB/hip hop threads over there is unreal. And ironically all by dudes who DIDN'T see PE or RUN DMC live in the 80s or buy 'Illmatic', '36 Chambers', 'Doggystyle', 'Straight Outta Compton' etc when they came out.
I'm far too white for those white dudes.
I'm not sure what the equivalent is... I might start posting here entirely in the style of Manowar lyrics and being an utter cunt to anyone who doesn't own at least three Celtic Frost and Tank albums and see how that goes down.
Anyway that's enough congratulatory talk from me but, y'know, \m/
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I was spinning metal vinyl last year and a bunch of kids came in begging for hip hop. I had a Street Jams comp on my iPhone and ended up laying down some Twilight 22 and Herbie Hancock for them. They looked baffled and asked for Kanye. None of them had ever even heard of Herbie Hancock. So I told them to fuck off and started playing Morbid Angel again.
Kids these days.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 09:45 (fourteen years ago)
Ha ha ha! Yeah fuck those kids who don't want to hear Whodini's Magic Wand or Morbid Angel.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:44 (fourteen years ago)
Here's a thing about Flesh Consumed, a band that wants to stop being Cannibal Corpse and start being Decrepit Birth. They're not quite there yet, but their album's really good.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
"Ha ha ha! Yeah fuck those kids who don't want to hear Whodini's Magic Wand or Morbid Angel."
You are my brother.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
Hey Nate,
Exactly. Why can't we all live in peace?
In fact I think we could all learn a lesson or two from Three Six Mafia. I mean check the shirt this guy's rocking...
http://ubeenjacked.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/three-6-mafia-tt04.jpg
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago)
bullshit discussions with empty-headed zeroescan we pleeeeeeeeease make this the board descrip for all of ilx― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:37 PM (Yesterday)
― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:37 PM (Yesterday)
oh man it is cruel to dangle this in front of a dude who could actually make this happen
― the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
do it
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
I never find Rolling Metal hard to follow, except when I go away for a couple days and dudes write 713 messages about whether it's hard to follow or not.
Meanwhile, back in metal, I don't see a lot of shows any more, so I'm very excited to be seeing both Triptykon/1349/Yakuza and Dimmu Borgir/Enslaved/Blood Red Throne in the next two months. The new Enslaved is magnificent, and I thought the new Dimmu Borgir sounded pretty good on first listen.
Tarja's new solo album is at least OK, but I think Nightwish survived her departure in much better musical shape than she did. Not sure there's a great future in being the Pia Zadora of gothic metal.
New Tristania album just kinda left me puzzled. Not sure what they're going for any more. The Mortemia record is predictable, but at least it knows what it's about.
Also really liking this Russian funeral-doom band Ea, of whom I'd never heard before a couple hours ago. Au Ellai is the latest (3rd) album; I haven't heard the first two yet. Apparently the lyrics are in a "dead" language, whatever that means. Not that you would know if nobody told you.
Reiterate BUY rating on Iron Maiden, Mandrake, Sahg, Kvelertak and Valborg. Tentative BUY after one listen for the Amorphis recorded-old-stuff comp Magic & Mayhem.
Also, that squirrels-on-the-tower song is great.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
Dead languages are a real thing. Some languages that are about to die are described as moribund. Dead = there are no living native speakers of that language. I'm not sure what language those songs are in, but it's a real thing. I mean, if anyone cares.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
What about an I Love Satan board that just coincidently has a ton of metal threads on it? eh???― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
let's not get personal now, bub.
― natas, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
Ea are fabulous, btw! scott's pimping on some old thread turned me on to them big time! had to send money to the damned ruskies to get their debut even!
― natas, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
No, I understand what a dead language is, I'm just puzzled at how you could write lyrics in it but have it remain dead.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
I mean, obviously you could just put together words whose translations have been lost, but then I don't think you're really "in" that language.
Latin is a dead language that is spoken (and sung) all the time, but there are no populations where that language is still spoken regularly.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
ego sum mercator
― markers, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
Search: All The Footprints You've Ever Left Behind And The Fear Expecting Ahead and the Abyssal ep. Then come back and thank me.
well, I wrote these guys off but you've definitely piqued my interest. I'll check these out, thanks!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
listened to that neurosis live at roadburn thing. it's pretty good but there are no surprises. leans heavily on the last few albums (iirc, I think "the doorway" times of grace is the oldest thing they play) and everything is played pretty straight.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
"the doorway" off of times of grace, that is. argh.
This. I've only been offline for a few days but I feel like I'm a month behind.
So what does everyone think of the new/old Soundgarden track/video?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago)
The "new" Soundgarden song is okay. Don't much care for the video, just 'cause it has nothing to do with Soundgarden; it might as well be a fan-made YouTube thing where the song is synched to anime footage. I'm actually thinking I might buy the 2CD/1DVD version of this compilation, as it's a very well-chosen selection of songs.
Listening to the new Opeth 3CD live thing now. I haven't listened to Blackwater Park in a while, and hearing it performed live is reminding me why. There are some really nice passages, but some real draggy parts, too, and the songs don't stick in my head at all - they're pretty much the opposite of catchy. It's more like, "Wow, that's a cool riff" while it's happening, but then as soon as it's over, it's gone.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
the new cathedral is.....................kind of fascinating
― "SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 23 September 2010 07:44 (fourteen years ago)
like the parts in "funeral of dreams" where dude is sing-talking over bass licks remind me of........bloc party?
Ha ha ha! I love the Cathedral album but I can sort of see why people have a problem with the vocals... my friend compared him to your drunk Scottish uncle at a wedding getting everyone to shut up so he could do a turn...
It more reminds me of something off a slightly psychedelic, weird British horror film from the late 60s or a film starring David McCallum or Leonard Nimoy or something.
I guess that's one reason why I really like them though... they're very English without being like Skrewdriver, Blur or Chas and Dave.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:03 (fourteen years ago)
Top 5 of 2010 so far: Ludicra, Cathedral, Enslaved, Wolvserpent, Agalloch.
Great year for brave and progressive metal.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 23 September 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago)
only heard a couple tracks from the Cathedral. Sounded odd and good. Vocals reminded me of something Canterbury or krautrock, maybe? It was something very specific and I couldn't place it: Gong? Guru Guru?
SO who has thoughts on the Blind Guardian? Haven't really loved anything past Somewhere Far Beyond, but that poem was glorious and I'd give the thing a shot if more people dug it.
And really, any other modern power metal that's interesting would be nice to hear. The more NWoBHM/Manillia Road/Cirith Ungol sounding stuff is what I'm looking for, although I like lol Lost Horizon and the first Avantasia, so I'm not completely averse to that Euro sounding stuff. Love Hammers of Misfortune, too.
― sweet asbo (CharlieS), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
Power-metalwise, I think Gamma Ray are my only 2010 endorsement, but I there's a DragonForce live album, so that's like extended eligibility for whatever's on it...
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago)
Going to order that Realmbuilder album tomorrow. That looks like my kinda thing. Dawnbringer, too.
I have one Gamma Ray somewhere, a space themed one. Don't recall be all that into it, maybe it'll click for me some day.
― sweet asbo (CharlieS), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
Saw Katatonia tonight. Meh.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 24 September 2010 08:03 (fourteen years ago)
they put on a great show last time I saw them
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, what gives? what didn't you like? never seen em myself.
― original bgm, Friday, 24 September 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
Rammstein are playing Madison Square Garden six days before my birthday. Hell yes.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 24 September 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
you guys keep mentioning Enslaved so I checked out "The Watcher" on YouTube and the clean singing in the chorus is SLAYING me -- if any of their other stuff is as good as this song, man
― markers, Friday, 24 September 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
also, the clean guitar parts are \(^o^)/
― markers, Friday, 24 September 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
I love the clean singing parts of Enslaved, but then I really, really don't like the other bits. Which I know is my loss, but such is life.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 September 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
Enslaved is the best band in metal. Followed by Ludicra and YOB.
As for Katatonia -- it was ok. Made me feel like I ate 3 vanilla wafers and half a glass of skim milk.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 24 September 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago)
And speaking of Ludicra:
http://vimeo.com/15228181
― Nate Carson, Friday, 24 September 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
from what I've heard of the new Enslaved their clean-to-snarly vocal thing is a lot less jarring than it was on Vertebrae.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 24 September 2010 23:51 (fourteen years ago)
I guess I've never found it jarring to start with.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago)
I don't find it jarring myself, just every time it switches on I think, "Why? You had a good thing going!"
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
No matter how prog Enslaved get, they're still too black metal for me. I keep wanting to like them, but they never quite do it for me.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago)
I wish I had an intern to listen to the new Dimmu Borgir for me.
I've listened to it twice, and you haven't paid me, so is that close enough?
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
I guess I need to hear Enslaved and Ludicra, huh?
I heard that last YOB album and it did absolutely nothing for me, I love doom/stoner stuff but it was just a shitty imitation.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago)
^ sb him
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 25 September 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
I love YOB, but on a song by song basis. I can't get through a whole album.
I love Enslaved, and I find the "jarring" clean/bm vocals on their last few albums to be a huge part of their charm.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Saturday, 25 September 2010 03:22 (fourteen years ago)
I have to say YOB is consistently great, I can't think of song of theirs I don't like.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Saturday, 25 September 2010 05:25 (fourteen years ago)
"song"
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 05:41 (fourteen years ago)
the band has songs dude
― bear, bear, bear, Saturday, 25 September 2010 06:07 (fourteen years ago)
obviously that was I typo and I meant "a song" -- not somehow suggesting they only had one song.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Saturday, 25 September 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
I am also in the dont get the big deal camp re: yob
― the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Saturday, 25 September 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
I really liked The Illusion of Motion, because that one had digestible songs that stuck with me, but The Unreal Never Lived didn't really grab me. Epic doom doesn't really do it for me, though -- I like the new Zoroaster Way more than their earlier, longer doom pieces.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Saturday, 25 September 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
The longer and doomier something is the more I tend to like it.
― Randolph Carter (Viceroy), Saturday, 25 September 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
No one is putting a gun to your head to like YOB. Seeing them live could change your life though. NY Times agrees that they're one of the best bands in North America. You can refute that statement, but you can't take it away.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 26 September 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
No one is putting a gun to your head to like Smash Mouth. Seeing them live could change your life though. NY Times agrees that they're one of the best bands in North America. You can refute that statement, but you can't take it away.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
(See how ridiculous that argument becomes when a more obviously shitty band is substituted in?)
don't delay, act nowsupplies are running out
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
then I read this threadnow I'm a believer
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
Except I'm pretty sure NY Times never called Smash Mouth "one of the best bands in North America".
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
they shouldve
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
guys this is a dumb argument but let's not act like the nyt is any sort of authority on what the best bands in north america are
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
wait they arent
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
cant believe i believed them when they said smash mouth was one of the best bands in the country
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
then i read this threadnow im not a believer
― markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
let's not act like the nyt is any sort of authority on what the best bands in north america are
srsly. especially for metal bands. it's to YOB's credit that the NYT endorsement wasn't a hipster kiss of death, tbh
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Sunday, 26 September 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
That Zoroaster is not bedding in for me at all.
― Duran (Doran), Sunday, 26 September 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago)
Good album by Zoroaster, but it has a bit of a tough time matching the strength of the first track.
I've been away so long I've missed the Dimmu Borgir pre-release buzz...is it the trainwreck I've been expecting it to be?
I hope to hear the new Agalloch soon after I get back home...
― A. Begrand, Monday, 27 September 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago)
really? i start the zoroaster on the second or third track and go from there
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 September 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to the new Dimmu now. Shagrath goes back and forth between sounding like Popeye and sounding like Milan Fras from Laibach; one line as Popeye, one as Milan. It's pretty effing annoying. Overall, their pomptastic bullshit has been paying diminishing returns since Death Cult Armageddon (the remake of Stormblåst definitely included), and this one is no change of pace. The song "Dimmu Borgir" actually kinda sounds like Laibach circa Jesus Christ Superstars, but I'd rather listen to that.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to the DB as well -- I agree, the vocals are somewhat mixed. And when I heard "Gateways" on Sirius, I could have sworn that it was Cradle of Filth. Not necessarily a train wreck, but certainly no Death Cult.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 27 September 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
"Chess with the abyss" is pretty fun, actually. Nice orchestral backing, catchy guitar riff, consistent vocals.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 27 September 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago)
cheese with the abyss?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 September 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
Clever as always.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 27 September 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago)
Here's a link to my new interview w/Rob Halford (re: the new studio album, touring w/Ozzy, songwriting, menswear)...
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago)
Nice on Phil. Martin Popoff could have used you for his Priest book...
― Nate Carson, Monday, 27 September 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago)
Nice ONE
― Nate Carson, Monday, 27 September 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago)
Actually, an endorsement from Ben Ratliff, who writes about metal and jazz and "out" music for the NY Times, is pretty damn meaningful. He's the best music writer out there right now. He's certainly never steered me wrong.
― Chonus, Monday, 27 September 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago)
He's the best music writer out there right now.
Ratliff is very good (and a swell guy; I've met him at a show or two), but there are at least three contributors to this very thread whose work I would read/trust before his.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
Ratliff is very good (and a swell guy; I've met him at a show or two), but there is at least one contributor to Pitchfork Reviews Reviews whose work I would read/trust before his.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 27 September 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
(Just kidding, don't shoot me.)
http://www.schietsport.com/dutchmuzzleloaders/images/clipart/animated/cannon.gif
― markers, Monday, 27 September 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
LOL
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 27 September 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
Herman - I'm pretty sure bumping all those random metal threads won't get you a separate board.
Any big releases tomorrow?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago)
enslaved
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago)
ez stop snappin
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
There's a shit-ton of stuff coming out tomorrow. I can't vouch for much of it, but the Flesh Consumed record is pretty great.
ABIGAIL WILLIAMS - Absence of Light THE ATLAS MOTH - The One Amongst the Weed Fields (digital-only EP) THE BATTALION - Head Up High BLACK ANVIL - Triumvirate CLUTCH - Robot Hive/Exodus (CD/DVD deluxe reissue) DEL REY - Immemorial ENCOFFINATION - Ritual Ascension Beyond Flesh ENSLAVED - Axioma Ethica Odini FLESH CONSUMED - Ecliptic Dimensions of Suffering GRAND MAGUS - Grand Magus (reissue) GRAND MAGUS - Monument (reissue) LIMBONIC ART - PhantasmagoriaOCTOBER TIDE - A Thin Shell OSI - Office of Strategic Influence (deluxe reissue)POWERGLOVE - Saturday Morning ApocalypsePRISTINA - The Drought (ov Salt and Sorrow)PRO-PAIN - Absolute Power SAILORS WITH WAX WINGS - Sailors with Wax Wings THE SECRET - Solve Et CoagulaSLIPKNOT - (sic)nesses (DVD) STAND UNITED - Aherence SWEET COBRA - Mercy TAIGA - Taiga II "Flora Chor"TODAY IS THE DAY - In the Eyes of God (CD/DVD reissue) UFO - Best of a Decade UNEARTHLY TRANCE - VUNTIL THE LIGHT TAKES US (DVD)YUPPICIDE - Anthology '88-'98
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago)
Thank unperson. Some stuff I'm curious about - I'll see if any of the guys at my local store are buying copies - they're usually pretty good about letting me listen.
Glad to see "Until the Light Takes Us" is coming out as I do want to see it.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:38 (fourteen years ago)
enslaved― call all destroyer, Monday, September 27, 2010 9:06 PM
― call all destroyer, Monday, September 27, 2010 9:06 PM
oh sh!t! had no idea this was coming out tomorrow. thanking u
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago)
excited for enslaved also
― hoos wears orange camo pants ffs (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago)
Almost as excited for the Enslaved as I am for the new Neil Young, but that may be for another thread (although, after hearing some snippets, it isn't COMPLETELY off-thread).
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
wait, Neil Young's releasing a vaguely metal record tomorrow?
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
Not really "metal", but an album produced by Lanois that is just Neil and an electric guitar, with tons of layers and Lanois loopy production tricks. Sounds really awesome.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
wow, I'm going to go look into that right now -- thanks jon!
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:14 (fourteen years ago)
<3<3<3<3<3 lanois
― hoos wears orange camo pants ffs (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:15 (fourteen years ago)
Iirc, NPR of all places was streaming it recently.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago)
yep, checked Hype Machine -- no dice. but Google led me to NPR's site: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129955938
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago)
what is npr?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago)
nat'l public radio
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago)
it's a website for nu-metal enthusiasts
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npr
So the new Agalloch album is killing me right now. No surprise there.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
Ever so slightly envious here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
Listened to a few tracks from the new Atheist today. Almost all of the McLaughlin-esque jazz-fusion side of them is gone; it's a much harder, heavier brand of tech-death they're playing now, which is probably why they chose to work with Jason Suecof. I'm not at all sure I like it, at least not yet.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
That defeats the whole purpose in my opinion. If I'm going to listen to Atheist I want jazz-fusion-death, not dime-a-dozen Suecof tech-death.
I've since moved on to the new Salome album. It's alright. My indifference is probably due to my mood, I want to keep listening to Agalloch. But they mix it up decently enough, some little EHG touches breaking up the doomy monotony.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
Ohhh new Salome! Do you have the Slough Feg too?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, for a while now, and it's terrific. Scalzi's as commanding a presence as ever.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
I'm just gonna wait and order them all together with the dawnbringer and mans gin cds. Will save up.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
You've gotta buy these first, though... amirite?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250699797598
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
http://catbird.tumblr.com/post/1178660030/i-hear-they-do-the-same-thing-for-ozzy-just-wheel
― markers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
totally cave in
― hoos wears orange camo pants ffs (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
My buddy Jeff who did the short film "Heavy Metal Parking Lot" is back with another one, kinda a prequel -- "Heavy Metal Picnic."
http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=389191
Decibel writes about it and the trailer
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
Hour Of 13 signing to Earache makes them the best band on their roster for... how long a timespan can we get for this? Longer than a decade?
― I ain't that kind of player I just foul a lot (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
I see Nanowar have a new album outhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lYM_06wLnzQ/TKNWNRZkN5I/AAAAAAAAD8o/IOGkCD_hZMo/s1600/Nanowar+Of+Steel+-+Into+Gay+Pride+Ride+%282010%29.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
love that s/t hour of 13 record from a couple years back. good for them! (if they get paid.)
― original bgm, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
It's not precisely metal, but I'm enjoying the newest Unheilig album, Grosse Freiheit. It's like they listened to Vision Thing and muttered "Zis ist nicht GERMAN ENOUGH!"
Kinda guardedly into the new Mael Mordha, too. Thought before that their singer is terrible, but somehow this time I feel like the terribleness is working for them as personality.
But still basically it's Enslaved and BXI destroying all, around here in my head.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
anybody heard the new stargazer on profound lore? it's pretty weird, and pretty awesome, but i haven't seen much mention of it anywhere. only other thing i've heard by them is the split with invocation from 1999, which is also pretty great.
― mte, Thursday, 30 September 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
TODAY IS THE DAY - In the Eyes of God (CD/DVD reissue)
wait what now
― the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 30 September 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago)
New Black Anvil eh? On Relapse I presume? LOVED their last one.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 30 September 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
thinking about today is the day got me thinking about am rep which made me realize that i should prob bring this to the attention of (some of) yall, because its cool and really cheap:
http://apurgeofdissidents.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=181
― the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 30 September 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
I'd never heard of Salt Lake City 80s band Crisis, but their first album (newly re-released on Shadow Kingdom) is EXACTLY the kind of post-NWOBHM I was listening to in the mid-80s. Needless to say I love it.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 30 September 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, they're a great band overall. You need to go get The Scream that Tore the Sky! Also recommend their caveman alter-ego Cauldron Black Ram, the only pirate metal band worth listening to.
― short-haired valium crazies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 1 October 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago)
And the new one is really cool, but I feel like the production is a little less clear than the last one. Kinda worried their next album will be their equivalent of Atheist's "Elements," though.
― short-haired valium crazies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 1 October 2010 08:46 (fourteen years ago)
Listened to the new Hail of Bullets on my tram ride to work this morning. I still like them. Easy-listening death metal.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 1 October 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
I heard something Adrien & Smithy might like today.http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lYM_06wLnzQ/TKimbLaatvI/AAAAAAAAEBM/ZN9LrK0q4Iw/s1600/Atlantean+Kodex+-+The+Golden+Bough+%282010%29.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 October 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=146091
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 October 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago)
That's definitely right up my alley. I like what I hear so far...
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 3 October 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
I told ya!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 3 October 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
should probably listen to this Enslaved record the whole way through, but I just keep playing the last track again and again and again
― markers, Sunday, 3 October 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago)
just popping in to say: this friday night at my store in greenfield (in the basement) we will be having a show around 8 pm just in case there are any masshole lurkers on here or if you know any hampshire college professors who are down with the heavy stuff. bands:
TSANTA (my friend jeremy kelly doing his very heavy duo thing. guitar + drums.)
http://www.myspace.com/satanswhiskers
THE BODY
http://www.myspace.com/thevisionshallcometopass
EHNAHRE
WOLVSERPENT
http://www.myspace.com/wolvserpents
― scott seward, Monday, 4 October 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
ahahahaha there is a band called HELLBEARDhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xidKY9MOr-M/TKil2vsMH7I/AAAAAAAAAeM/o6zJHQ_3ZVk/s1600/untitled2.bmp
Smithy have you started a metal band?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.myspace.com/hellbeardband
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
I like the record cover/logo/whatever that is
― markers, Monday, 4 October 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
the logo looks like ass, if you lopped that off you'd have a pretty OK sleeve imho
Not sure if they've been mentioned in this thread yet but there's a new Place Of Skulls (Victor Griffin, ex-Pentagram) out just now and oh mayyyne... you know how before they were a Christian band who rocked, as opposed to a Christian rock band? This is actually a Christian rock record. I mean nothing with Victor Griffin playing guitar is going to be irredeemable but I think they're making an active play for the CCM crowd :(
― hoxton whores ahoy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
I dunno, the lyrics were always a bit like that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
― the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:45 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark
Would also like to hear about this. What's on the DVD? Or is one of those pointless 'audio only' DVDs?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 4 October 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
xp yeah no I mean the actual songs, to be fair there are some bangers here but a bunch of this sounds like radio rock of the Creed kind, it's not pretty
― hoxton whores ahoy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)
ahh, ugh
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to this:
http://s43.radikal.ru/i101/1010/c5/5c4a0e0d683b.jpg
and I'm liking it a lot.
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
Hey if you're in Portland this week:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs613.snc4/59317_435510729013_141384714013_4937963_2854397_n.jpg
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 07:04 (fourteen years ago)
So what are people thinking, end-of-year-list-wise? Here's what I have so far:
Nachtmystium - Black Mettle Part 2: AddictsYakuza - Of Seismic ConsequenceJucifer - Throned in BloodArsis - Starve for the DevilThe Sword - Warp RidersWatain - Lawless DarknessHigh on Fire - Snakes for the DivineZoroaster - MatadorCathedral - the Guessing GameLandmine Marathon - Sovereign DescentRotting Christ - AEALO
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
Four or five of those have a shot a being on mine (Nachtmystium, Yakuza, Watain, High On Fire, and maaaaaybe Zoroaster). Didn't really feel the Arsis or The Sword that much, although the latter is growing on me a bit (I think I just had too high of expectations given the early buzz and the lovely cover art). The Cathedral is... well, interesting. LOVE about 3/5ths of it, can't stand another fifth, and waver back and forth on the rest.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:42 (fourteen years ago)
The Landmine Marathon was also okay, but I haven't listened to it again since I heard the promo. Maybe I should remedy that. Haven't heard the others.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago)
Alpha order:
Black Bombaim - Saturdays and Space TravelsCathedral - The Guessing GameChristian Mistress - Agony & OpiumThe Flight of Sleipnir - LoreIhsahn - AfterKvelertak - KvelertakSamsara Blues Experiment - Long Distance TripThe Sword - Warp RidersTriptykon - Eparistera DaimonesUFOmammut - Eve
I have yet to hear Gnaw Their Tongues and Kylesa, but wouldn't be surprised if either made my list.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah Triptykon would probably be on my list and I'm super excited to hear the Kylesa. Off the top of my head the Ihsahn record would probably make my list.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago)
I can't remember everything that came out, but off the top of my head I would put: Iron Maiden, Yakuza, Enslaved, Drudkh, Ov Hell, Sorgeldom, Twilight, 1349, Ludicra, and The Howling Wind on my list, and maybe Celestiial, and I have a feeling this Wolvserpent is gonna make it too. Oh yeah, and I bet Kylesa will, but I haven't heard it.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago)
I have a gift certificate, so I'm going to make a run to Best Buy and pick up a couple things I never got around to checking out (if they have them), including Ludicra because I suspect I'm going to love that one. Honestly, the Enslaved is good, but I'm not as blown away by it as everyone else here seems to be.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago)
Man your Best Buy must be a whole lot better than the ones around here if you can find Ludicra there. The only metal albums I was able to find this year were the Maiden, the High On Fire, and Ov Hell.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
My list of candidates is fuckin' LONG. Here 'tis:
The Absence, Enemy UnboundArmored Saint, La RazaBison B.C., Dark AgesBrain Drill, Quantum CatastropheDanzig, Deth Red SabaothDecrepit Birth, PolarityDefeatist, Sixth ExtinctionDeftones, Diamond EyesEmbryonic Devourment, Vivid Interpretations of the VoidEnforcer, DiamondsFlesh Consumed, Ecliptic Dimensions of SufferingHigh On Fire, Snakes for the DivineIhsahn, AfterIn This Moment, A Star-Crossed WastelandInherit Disease, Visceral TranscendenceIron Maiden, The Final FrontierKill the Client, Set for Extinction (just got the promo today, but it's awesome)Knut, WonderKylesa, Spiral ShadowLudicra, The TenantMisery Index, Heirs to ThieveryRatt, InfestationShining, BlackjazzThe Showdown, Blood in the GearsSteelwing, Lord of the WastelandThe Sword, Warp RidersViolator, Annihilation Process EPWaking the Cadaver, Beyond Cops, Beyond GodWhourkr, Concrete (digi-grind)Xasthur, Portal of SorrowYakuza, Of Seismic ConsequenceRob Zombie, Hellbilly Deluxe 2
I'm not sure about the Triptykon disc yet (or the EP that's coming out soonish). I'm going to see them, 1349 and Yakuza tomorrow night, though. That may inspire me to revisit the studio recordings.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago)
They have it on the website, probably doesn't translate to having it in store though.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
I was not impressed by the Rob zombie at all. I really wanted to like it, but it just wasn't very good.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
I keep forgetting theres a new Brain Drill out! I need to check that one out, I loved first one.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
I totally forgot the Ludicra! Another to add to the list. Liked the Ratt a great deal and should probably revisit it.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago)
I think for me the top ten of it is going to be Maiden, Electric Wizard, Cathedral, The Body, Gnaw Their Tongues, High On Fire, Cephalic Carnage, Kylesa, UFOmammut, Celeste.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
Electric Wizard
Wait, what?!?!?? Had no idea they had a new one coming out this year!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
Waking the Cadaver, Beyond Cops, Beyond God
trollin?
my picks: cathedral, the guessing gameimmolation, majesty and decayihsahn, afterthou, summitchristian mistress, agony & opiumoverkill, ironboundiron maiden, the final fronteir bastard noise / endless blockade, the red list (split)
like the new ones from arsis, decrepit birth, high on fire, and the bastard noise full-length as well. no doubt I'm forgetting some others.
tons of stuff I haven't checked out yet too. ludicra, defeatist, kill the client, and triptykon are near the top of that list.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
I'm a fair-weather metal fan and haven't heard a lot, but I have enjoyed Nachtmystium, High on Fire, Deftones, maybe a couple others... Boris? Maybe the BXI thing, or that Variations one.
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck... I was trying not to go on about it... but it fucking rules. The last track's like a massive thunderstorm. And that's all I'm saying about it until ten days before release date...
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
You just upped my excitement level by like 10000000%.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
new electric wizard is always a good thing.
oh yeah, new agalloch should be out pretty soon!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
Forgot about the Thou, that one is pretty high up on my list. I haven't given my list much thought though, since I'm not writing for any outlets right now I'm not on the same October deadline as most of you guys.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
i'm expecting to enjoy a good amount of stuff that hasn't been released yet, but my only real keepers from the year so far are cathedral and ludicra, and to an extent i respect those more than i like them.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
Electric Wizard and Agalloch are high on my "excited for" list and will probably make it if they're anywhere near the last records from each band. Ended up being quite a year!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously, it really did!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs427.snc4/47001_151921444846144_149288621776093_228380_6157448_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs024.snc4/33548_151921501512805_149288621776093_228383_3091597_n.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Oh wow. Where did you get those photos from?
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
Nope. I wasn't expecting anything at all from it, 'cause they were seriously one of the most inept bands I'd ever heard. But somehow they got whipped into shape and while they're not pathbreaking or anything, it's a solid death/grind record.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
Seeing Triptykon here in Cambridge Thursday night. Looking forward!
2010 frontrunners for me, currently:
CathedralCelestiialDark FortressDiabulus in MusicaEaEluveitieEnslavedHIMIhsahnImmolationImperium DekadenzIron MaidenKvelertakLacrimas ProfundereLudicraMandrakeNechochwenNegura BungetNevermorePoisonblackRotting ChristSahgSister SinTriptykonValborgXasthur
And I'm still not ruling out Alcest, Blood of the Black Owl, Blut aus Nord, Dark Tranquillity, Decrepit Birth, Dimmu Borgir, Equilibrium, Gamma Ray, Grand Magus, Kathaarsys, Mortemia, Overkill, Tarja or 1349. And I haven't heard the new Cradle of Filth or Agalloch yet.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
hmm. actually haven't heard it myself. just the older material, and yeah, inept is right.
in any case, the phrase "beyond cops, beyond god" is seriously funny to me for reasons I'm having trouble articulating.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
didn't even know there was a new blut aus nord record this year! memoria vetusta ii was my fave of 2009, so I have to hear that one.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Enslaved and Agalloch will place very high on my 2010 list. Christian Mistress has crept up and up since June to the point where it's an easy top ten for me. The new ones by Weapon and the Crown are fantastic as well, a couple of potential late additions.
There's been a wealth of good metal records this year...
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
Dont forget Dawnbringer
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Yep. And Sahg and Slough Feg. It's been an amazing year for traditional metal.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
still not heard slough feg or agalloch or electric wizard or .... damn you journalists
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Not far away from this for me either.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
oh hey guess who just found out today that the High On Fire/Torche/Kylesa show in town was last fucking night
god damn i really have to start paying attention to shit
― restorin' my damn eyes (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i need to get my ticket for that asap
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
totally forgot that was happening -- tickets were pretty cheap last time I checked. maybe I'll go but who knows
― markers, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Forgot about Slough Feg too! Damn, what a year.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
oh hey guess who just found out today that the High On Fire/Torche/Kylesa show in town was last fucking nightgod damn i really have to start paying attention to shit
I totally did this a month or so ago w/ the Sleep show in Austin, had a ticket and everything...
― I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago)
so far it's christian mistress and ludicra at the top for me, with kylesa, the torche ep, enslaved, and the body not far behind and agalloch and slough feg expected to be right in the mix. still haven't full absorbed the new cathedral.
going through itunes just to remind myself about 2010, the secret might get in there, along with black breath, bison b.c., and high on fire. i really dig "circle the wagons," too.
― mte, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
next question show wise for me is how willing am i to pay dimmu borgir for my opportunity to see enslaved
― restorin' my damn eyes (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
my usual comp attempts have come up empty because its at a bar that (up until now) mostly does biker blooz and hippy jam band crap urrrggghhhh
― restorin' my damn eyes (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago)
like as in if you were ever wondering if Dread Zeppelin was still touring you could check this place because they seem to be playing there every other week
I am mulling over whether to see the Wino solo show or not. Then Supersonic in a fortnight.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'm going out Sunday to see Christian Mistress and Thrones. First show in a while.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
didn't even know there was a new blut aus nord record this year! memoria vetusta ii was my fave of 2009, so I have to hear that one.― fuck to: posers (Alan N), Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:24 AM (3 hours ago)
― fuck to: posers (Alan N), Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:24 AM (3 hours ago)
Memoria Vetusta II was mine, too. I previewed the new one and, I don't know if it is a re-release of old material or if they are completely out of ideas or what, but I found it really really boring compared to... well all of their earlier work. I listened to it four times and nothing stuck.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
If you go to Supersonic, I'm doing a daily radio show around tea time, interviewing Michael Rother in the theatre and DJing the aftershow party on the Sunday.
None of these things will necessarily be any good. Well, whenever I've done the aftershow it's usually gone down a storm actually. It's like when you get a bunch of people who've been drinking, taking drugs and listening to stuff that sounds like Merzbow or Scorn for three days, the second they hear Run To The Hills they go apeshit.
Really if you go to Supersonic just make sure you watch Factory Floor. Love that band. Literally just got in from watching them in SW London this evening. Can't hear anything.
― Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
Was intending catching up with you at some point - have managed to book the Paragon this week which means I guess we should run into each other.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
I'm hoping to see Patrick Wolf there again dressed as Robin Hood and dancing very quickly to Venetian Snares.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 7 October 2010 07:48 (fourteen years ago)
"I'm going to make a run to Best Buy and pick up a couple things I never got around to checking out (if they have them), including Ludicra"
Jeff, let me know if you need a promo. I'll hook you up man. Ludicra's The Tenant should be on everyone's top 10 list because it's one of the ten best records to come out this year.
Still fleshing mine out but undoubtedly includes Enslaved, Cathedral, Ludicra, Agalloch, Christian Mistress, and Wolvserpent.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 7 October 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago)
I definitely should give the new Krieg a listen before making any list. Man, I'm now reminded of Winterfylleth, Woe, and The Howling Wind. Too much good stuff this year...
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to the new Sweet Cobra. This definitely has a good shot. Also considering adding these to my list:
Alcest - Écailles de luneExodus – Exhibit B: The Human ConditionTarja - What Lies Beneath (yeah, I know, but it's really good)Armored Saint – La RazaTweak Bird - Tweak Bird (fans of Melvins and Big Business should really check these guys out)Iron Maiden - the Final FrontierBlind Guardian - at the Edge of Time
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
I've been spinning the new Withered a lot the last few days.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 7 October 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
I'm really liking the new Black Mountain, but I'm not really sure if it's "metal" enough for decibel, even though In the Future made the list a few years back.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 8 October 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago)
Ok, I'm at 1349, holding the phone up so you can all hear. Awesome.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks Glenn! Sounds scrumptious.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 October 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and here's the setlist:
GarrrrrrrrrRrrarrrrrrrGhargggggggrrHellfireGriegggggggggrrrrrrSledgegarrrrrrrrYgghgggghgggg Rarrrrrr (radio edit)Phlphbbbbbrrrrrrrrraaaarrrrrrr
(beard solo)
Spirits of PfarrrgghaurggghMorghurghlurghulghghgh's Tears
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago)
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 October 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
Here's what my list is looking like as of tonight:
1. Nachtmystium - Black Mettle Part 2: Addicts2. Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence3. Jucifer - Throned in Blood4. Arsis - Starve for the Devil5. The Sword - Warp Riders6. Watain - Lawless Darkness7. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine8. Zoroaster - Matador9. Cathedral - the Guessing Game10. Rotting Christ – AEALO11. Alcest - Écailles de lune12. Ludicra - the Tenant13. Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent14. Iron Maiden - the Final Frontier15. Blind Guardian - at the Edge of Time16. Maserati - Pyramid of the Sun17. Armored Saint – La Raza18. Tweak Bird - Tweak Bird19. Exodus – Exhibit B: The Human Condition20. Tarja Turunen - What Lies Beneath
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 8 October 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago)
Although Killing Joke are creeping their way up the list...
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 8 October 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago)
OK, TGW and Triptykon are just on another level. Hearing protection is good, but I feel like I ought to have on some sort of body armor for the low frequencies. Warrior looks like he's still not sure exactly why he came down from his secret fortress, and like maybe these stories and groans are less for our entertainment than to renew the wards against the world so he can go back again.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 03:54 (fourteen years ago)
Corpsepaint looks dopey. Tom Warrior looking like he's older than the rest of his band put together is rather scarier.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago)
I've only really taken an interest in metal over the last couple of years, so I'm still pretty ignorant on the subject, but I'm really liking Nachtmystium, The Body, Black Tusk, Black Breath, Dawnbringer, Christian Mistress, that Boris comp, Yakuza, Zoroaster, Ludicra, Kylesa and the Torche EP. I also love the Shining and Daughters albums, although I don't know if you guys would actually count them as "metal" or indie, punk, whatever. One album I'm really surprised hasn't been on everybodys' lists though is the Harvey Milk album; surely that's metal? Regardless, best album of the year.
― Moogle, Friday, 8 October 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago)
very much enjoying A Forest Of Stars 'Opportunistic Thieves Of Spring' at the moment. And love their website http://www.aforestofstars.co.uk/ - wasted a good half-hour here just moving stuff about.
― Neil Kulkarni, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago)
Here's my review of Wednesday night's Triptykon/1349/Yakuza show.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:40 (fourteen years ago)
stupid stupid hecklers! what a bozo.
in other news, i honestly considered flying to seattle to see agalloch/waldteufel, but it's like $400 :( this is what i get for not believing in the spirit of xmas.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:02 (fourteen years ago)
yeah wtf why is noone mentioning the harvey milk album?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago)
Because Harvey Milk blows dead dogs...?
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
Reissue, is my guess.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago)
My other review of last night's 1349/Triptykon show, as syndicated on Twitter:
10:05pm Not sure: is 1349 guitar guy SUPPOSED to look like a badger?
10:06pm Also, from this angle can't tell if Reaper bass dude has powdered his beard or is wearing fake chin.
10:13pm 1349 in brief: look like guys uncomfortably too old for trick-or-treating; sound like glaciers planning vengeance next ice age. But fast.
11:14pm I feel like half of the people at this Triptykon show might work at my company, just in some secret subbasement I've never even heard of.
11:46pm Some elves stay because it's too fun being immortal among the mortal, some because it's too terrifying being alive in the absence of death.
12:00am My largest earthquake was only 6.2, but this Triptykon show is more physical than that. At least this time I'm wearing pants.
12:11am Triptykon makes much of the rest of dark metal look like cargo-cult effigies done by people with poor memory for detail and no patience.
9:15am Today's memento vivere: wearing the shirt from last night's concert, like I would have when I was 16.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 13:29 (fourteen years ago)
Aldo there was a brand new Harvey Milk album out earlier this year.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.roadburn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Harvey-Milk-A-Small-Turn-Of-Human-Kindness.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
And it's way better than the previous one.
So Glenn, did you not show up for Yakuza? You really missed something, if you didn't.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
what do we have to do to get the arkestra back together? that was one of my favorite shows all year, and i don't even think it lived up to its potential because it was outdoors and the horn section was, imo, underutilized.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
I saw some of Yakuza. Know 'em, don't like 'em, didn't change my mind after seeing them. I don't have anything snarky to say about them, they're just not my thing.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 8 October 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
More depressing, yes, better, no.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 8 October 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, Harvey milk are a little too unpleasant for me. Same reason there isn't more grind or atmospheric black metal on my list -- it's not that I can't recognize that it's good, it's just that it isn't something I'm likely to listen to on a regular basis.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Friday, 8 October 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
The Harvey Milk is terrific, but yikes it's dismal. I greatly prefer the cheekiness of Life...
And okay, here's my list as it stands right now, in descending order. Still plenty of time to amend it before I post my big rundown at PopMatters in December...I have to leave out so many great titles either way.
Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part IIEnslaved - Axioma Ethica OdiniIron Maiden - The Final FrontierAlcest - Ecailles de LuneAgalloch – Marrow of the SpiritsCastevet - Mounds of AshDawnbringer – NucleusKylesa - Spiral ShadowChristian Mistress - Agony and OpiumYakuza - Of Seismic ConsequenceKvelertak – KvelertakLudicra - The TenantShining – BlackjazzRatt – InfestationIhsahn - AfterHigh on Fire - Snakes For the DivineThe Crown - Doomsday KingTriptykon - Eparistera DaimonesNevermore - The Obsidian ConspiracyThe Sword - Warp Riders
― A. Begrand, Friday, 8 October 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
what i miss is the dismal but still soaring and tuneful majesty of "special wishes."
― mte, Friday, 8 October 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
I finally got The Sword album as I've been seeing it all over the place lately and the cover enticed me. This is really good stuff. Love the sludgey, stoner moments, and the sandblasted riffs, and the 70's-FM rock vocals.
I almost feel like I shouldn't own this as a cd, but some battered, dusty vinyl album.
― committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Friday, 8 October 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
I forgot to put the Castevet album on my list, too. That's a really good one.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 8 October 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 October 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
Last night, The Body were kind enough to test the structural integrity of the building that my record store is in. The building is sound. Thanks, guys!
(oh and if any of you get a chance to see Wolvserpent live, GO!)
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 October 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
To help out those making EOY lists I've revived Mordy's Metal Listening Club - New Albums Every Mondayand we should pick all 2010 albums on it for the rest of the year.If anyone wants to join in/volunteer please post on the thread.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 October 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OLQiKVP-w&feature=related
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 October 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago)
Holy crap are Christian Mistress good live! Outstandingly tight, outstandingly awesome. Touring all through the month and totally worth catching if you can. Boston, then Providence, NYC, Philly, Baltimore, etc.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 October 2010 07:13 (fourteen years ago)
ok i mean this is just everyone otm but i'm working my way through the enslaved record today and it is just really fantastic--probably the best metal record and one of the best ten records i've heard this year.
even the things they do that i'm not super into, like the clean singing and some of the prog bits, are so fully thought out that they're inarguable. and i love how thick and defined the guitars are--like you can really hear every pickstroke on some of the riffs.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 October 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
Seems I always miss something on my best so far list, and here's another slept on record: Across Tundras - Old World Wanderer. It's seriously heavy, if not seriously modern metal; kind of a Crazy Horse of Paul Bunyan proportions. Easily one of the best things I've heard this year and a great autumnal album.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 October 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
Wonderful album, that one. I've been into them since their first record, but Old World Wanderer just might be their best.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
I think we're the two enthusiasts on here Adrien. Such a great record, and perfect for a chilly New England day.
Phil just tweeted that Wingo has left The Sword and all dates are cancelled. Totally bummed as I was hoping to catch them next week.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago)
Didn't even know that Across Tundras existed; I liked the last thing I heard by them, though.
The Sword news is very bad indeed. He was that band's not-so-secret weapon.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 11 October 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago)
He is so good on Warp Riders in particular - his anchor allowed them to open up their sound.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Trivett brought a terrific sense of groove to the Sword's music from the get-go, that's for sure. Hope his replacement can equal that.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
FYI, Across Tundras is giving away the album as a free download if anyone's curious to hear it.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 11 October 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
So who else has heard the new TesseracT EP? This band pushes all my metal fan buttons: classy, a touch of prog, the ubiquitous Meshuggah influence, and an ability to creat actual vocal melodies rather than doing lazy hardcore screams over dexterous arrangements. Superb 28 minute CD, this one.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 07:46 (fourteen years ago)
Seeing Fauna, Krallice, and Earthless in one weekend was sure a treat. Me tired.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)
Handbills and stickers discovered in the bathroom at Fall Into Darkness:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs829.snc4/68969_481640591413_741406413_6858443_297416_n.jpg
I think I finally made it.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
Which Sword guy left???? Say its not the drummer
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago)
Er, its the drummer.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
lol nate.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
Goddam it. This Warp Riders thing kicks all sorts of ass. I think it was Phil who said that there is a huge Thin Lizzy vibe on it: that's totally true.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
Haha, wow, Nate.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to the new Gnaw Their Tongues for the first time and I'm stunned. I liked the last one (once it made the year end poll and I finally heard it) but this is spectacular. Easily one of the best things, metal or otherwise, I've heard this year. Might just be the meds I'm on at the moment but this is seriously creepy majesty.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
EZ S, did you get that in a package with the Nekrasov album? because I listened to the first 2 tracks from that'n last night and damn near got my head took off. amazing.
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
No, I borrowed the promo off the metal buyer at my local store and was getting ready to order it from Crucial Blast today. So I should order the Nekrasov too?
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago)
Gnaw Their Tongues is great. Are they one of the few things the metal thread unequivocally agree on?
Also in the 'kind of BM' frame, the Murmuure album is awesome. Sort of like if Zombi were secretly a BM outfit.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
I've been really enjoying the new Gnaw Their Tongues as well, I already like it more than the last one. Should give the Nekrasov a spin too...
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
New Motörhead album in January. Apparently it's called The World Is Yours.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
Nice! Their last three albums have been great fun.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone like the new Intronaut album? It has some clean vox apparently.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
so cosmic hearse slowed "ride the lightning" down to 33 rpm and suddenly it's a lot heavier and doomier
like
"ride the slightly slower lightning"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
the slowed down title track almost sounds like something off the new sword record
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago)
have only checked the 1st two tracks so far. they were pretty facemelting I have to say
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
To tie it all together the Cosmic Hearse guy is Aesop Dekker, the drummer for Ludicra and Agalloch, and I guess now Worm Ouroboros too. Super nice gent as well.
Thanks aero - I'll check myspace and such to get an idea if Nekrasov will be my thing before I finish my Crucial Blast order.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:39 (fourteen years ago)
omg @ that sticker!!
― (♥_♥) (roxymuzak), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:47 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty sure Aesop just posted the slowed down Metallica tracks that had been circulating for the last few months. I know I heard the 33rpm Master of Puppets played between sets at a show not too long ago and was very much enjoying it.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 14 October 2010 08:05 (fourteen years ago)
fair enough
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 October 2010 09:46 (fourteen years ago)
Continuing the werewolf theme:
http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/point-of-origin.jpg
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
Aldo: I love Gnaw Their Tongues. I think that album or Barn Owl's Ancestral Star or The Body's All The Waters... will be my fucked up/esoteric/art metal album of the year. I like the way that by going even more like 'classical' music, Mories has kind of made it even more evil.
― Duran (Doran), Friday, 15 October 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago)
So the new Weapon album is the best Canadian metal album I've heard in quite some time. A big improvement over the debut, which wasn't too shabby in its own right.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 15 October 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago)
Here's a piece I wrote for io9.com about metal bands helping to expose the reptoid menace... http://io9.com/5664162/
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago)
JD - I am looking forward to Barn Owl at Supersonic next weekend, definitely.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Friday, 15 October 2010 06:43 (fourteen years ago)
Awesome! Also, pre-ascension-of-Icke, you've got Axegrinder's "Rise of the Serpent Men" LP and Dream Death's "The Elder Race."
― short-haired valium crazies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 15 October 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'll have to get you guys the lyrics I wrote to 1997 Witch Mountain song "A Power Greater." It's all about our Reptilian forefathers.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 15 October 2010 08:53 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.noevdia.com/images/enter/2010Paracletus.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
oh man, that's sick -- what's that from?
― markers, Friday, 15 October 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
new Deathspell Omega. the final part of the trilogy
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago)
I think most on here will be looking forward to it.
CELESTE!!!! Jesus.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Friday, 15 October 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
for any pentagram fans, my friend/coworker has a nice article this week on victor griffin's metal odyssey.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 15 October 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
If Jamie is admittimg that readers of this thread should vote for the Celeste album in EOY then I can only agree. A brilliant record.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Friday, 15 October 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago)
new favorite metal band, nb I haven't listened to them yet, it's just their name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugAtCV4VJBI
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 15 October 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
and yes I know it means "sons of hate" but you know what else it means? HATS BARN
http://205.174.118.254/mhs/Business%20Partners/images/hatbarn.gif
― scott seward, Friday, 15 October 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
I have been buying hats from the Hat Barns for over 15 years or more. I live in Maryland but I buy most of my hats from the Hat Barn. I always get compliments on the hats I purchases from this shop. I probably own about 40 hats from the Hat Barn. I just purchased three more hats last week. I have received several compliments this weekend on the black hat.
October 10, 2010 by Gloria Moody in Suitland, MD
― scott seward, Friday, 15 October 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
I thought scott was buying hats for a min there
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
First time I looked I thought it said "HATE BARN" which you gotta admit would be almost as awesome.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago)
BARNEY HAT will hopefully be dudes name.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
If you like fast, shiny goth metal, I recommend the new UnSun album, Clinic for Dolls. UnSun is Mauser from Vader, with his wife Anna singing. Big and poppy and crunchy, somewhere between Nightwish and Paramore!
I'm also pretty much on board with the new Gnaw Their Tongues.
And yes, I did just listen to those two back to back.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 15 October 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2010/09/bullpen-bulletins-1-welcome-to-the-grind-ole-opry/
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
btw I just ordered the slough feg cd from profoundlore
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Now I know there is no accounting for taste——sure. But is music all so subjective that you can’t even form a coherent opinion about it without being narrow-minded? That’s what people seem to be telling me. I listen to what is considered “music” these days, and my response is almost always the same. If it has any melodic quality at all, or even any rhythmic quality, it’s usually so painfully unmemorable that I could hear the record a thousand times over in a six-month period, and on the seventh month not be able to recall even one riff. Sure, I might remember that it sounded “kinda doomy” or “kinda thrashy” due to the guitar sound, vocal style (or the label its on!!), but chances are that’s the only thing I’ll be able to recall.And why is this? Because there’s no quality control, no demand for any specific content to the music other than its possession of some rudimentary, tertiary qualities of a pre-established and almost always played-out style of music from thirty years ago. That’s our template for success. As long as it sounds like “Stoner Rock”—-or the infinitely more respectable in the underground, yet equally insipid style “Doom Metal”, i.e. it has droning guitars, a slow tempo, and the monotone wailings of some guy who’s somehow convinced his friends he’s imitating Ozzy—-or “Retro Thrash”, i.e. it has a brittle, over-saturated guitar sound and some douchebag that sounds like he’s got balls even smaller that James Hetfield’s (if that’s even possible)—-or probably the worst of them all, “True Metal”, the unoriginality and cookie-cutter-ishness of which I won’t even attempt to describe.
And why is this? Because there’s no quality control, no demand for any specific content to the music other than its possession of some rudimentary, tertiary qualities of a pre-established and almost always played-out style of music from thirty years ago. That’s our template for success. As long as it sounds like “Stoner Rock”—-or the infinitely more respectable in the underground, yet equally insipid style “Doom Metal”, i.e. it has droning guitars, a slow tempo, and the monotone wailings of some guy who’s somehow convinced his friends he’s imitating Ozzy—-or “Retro Thrash”, i.e. it has a brittle, over-saturated guitar sound and some douchebag that sounds like he’s got balls even smaller that James Hetfield’s (if that’s even possible)—-or probably the worst of them all, “True Metal”, the unoriginality and cookie-cutter-ishness of which I won’t even attempt to describe.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
Man is that guy from Slough Feg an elitist. Complain much? Plus he never mentions any bands he likes, just the kind of stuff he hates. I dont have time for that negative bullshit.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
I think his next column is supposed to be more about bands he likes
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, he comes off like a real prick. And if you listen to his own records, he's in no position to complain about other people being derivative and unmemorable at all. The cult surrounding that band is totally baffling.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Scalzi comes across like so many other 40+ metal fans, as if he's totally given up on seeking out good new music. For a guy fronting one of the more exciting American metal bands today, that's rather ironic, not to mention depressing.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 15 October 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
one of the more exciting American metal bands today
Sorry, must disagree. If you own the first two Iron Maiden albums, you don't need the new Slough Feg album.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't heard the new Slough Feg yet, but I really don't get that particular comparison.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
How can a metal fan not like Slough Feg? They've had their inconsistencies (Hardworlder lost me for a bit there), but Deadmen, Ape Uprising, and the new one are as satisfying as traditional metal gets.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 15 October 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
But that's precisely the point. He's bitching about there being nothing new, and his own band is as not-new as it gets. And frankly, I'm listening to The Animal Spirits as I type this, and it's doing very little for me. I'm on track six and can't remember what track one sounded like, and his - maybe "piratical" is the best word - vocal style is pretty unappealing.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago)
I do completely understand the larger point though, about "traditionalists" bitching about no good new music, but spend their time cranking out something highly derivative themselves.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago)
How about the point he tried to make about no women in San Francisco having a nice ass.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago)
Actually, I was just in San Francisco, and the dearth of hot chicks was pretty noticeable.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
But did bill have a nice ass?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
not letting go of Hats Barn yet
― drawl the whine (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 15 October 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
I watched some of that Hats Barn clip, and it was pretty good. I feel like black metal bands should store their bottles of water offstage, though. They go to all the trouble of dressing up like demons and then pause to drink water like ordinary chumps - it breaks the illusion, like when death metal bands talk to the audience between songs in normal human voices before reverting to death metal voice for the lyrics. If you're gonna do something, do it all the way. If you need a drink, vanish offstage briefly so no one can see you and the illusion of your unholiness is preserved.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 15 October 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago)
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I'll cross that town off my list.
― Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 15 October 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
not entirely sure that Kylesa could even strictly be called 'metal' anymore but anyhoo http://thequietus.com/articles/05079-kylesa-interview
― Neil Kulkarni, Friday, 15 October 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
hey neil, good to see you back on ilm!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
Adrien you might know this band? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lYM_06wLnzQ/TLfRe1xyWxI/AAAAAAAAEJc/l8PNUkwx4l0/s1600/Le+Kraken+-+Exalt+(2010).jpgLe Kraken, downloaded it on a whim and im loving it. Need to buy it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 October 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago)
For comparison, I just listened to UnSun's first album, The End of Life, from 2008, which I have a feeling I'd heard before but not thought that much of. The new one is much glossier and more enticing, and although "glossy and enticing" aren't universal goods in metal, gothic metal lends itself to them pretty well. On the new album they sound more like they've picked a thing and are trying to do it as well as it can be done.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 16 October 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
I'll check Le Kraken out, thanks. I assumed they were from France but they're actually from Montreal. Hopefully they unleash le fury.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 16 October 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
I believe they have a few albums out. Yeah, they're from Montreal.It was an enjoyable listen.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 16 October 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago)
Finally got round to hearing new Kylesa (thanks in part to Neil K) and it's reassuringly satisfying.
I don't smoke grass but if I did I would smoke a lot of it over the next few weeks while listening to Black Masses by Electric Wizard and the new Kylesa on constant repeat.
― Duran (Doran), Saturday, 16 October 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
thanks for the suggestion!
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Saturday, 16 October 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
I wish i had the new el wiz
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 16 October 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
dittoand the new Kylesa
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 16 October 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
maybe this is duh territory but new kylesa is on grooveshark, couldn't find el wiz though :(
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Saturday, 16 October 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, if you want to hear it (not "have" it)
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Saturday, 16 October 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, Kylesa leaked a while ago I believe...
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 16 October 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago)
Didn't even think of checking Grooveshark! I will certainly be buying both of these immediately upon release.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 16 October 2010 04:39 (fourteen years ago)
This Le Kraken album really is terrific stuff. Wonder how good their other albums are.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 17 October 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago)
hey anybody know anything about Evils Survives (super retro NWOBHM band from UK) or Spellcaster (Portland something or other)? they're playing a show here next sunday for $6 and judging from the myspace samples it will be either much better than expected or uh not good at all.
also plz to share my pain that the triptykon/1349/yakuza show is tomorrow but i will already be at nomeansno. peeps need to start scheduling around my desires.
― Cap'n Save-a-tanist (jjjusten), Sunday, 17 October 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago)
nomeansyoupickedthewrongshowdude
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 17 October 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago)
tbh i think that either way i will be picking the wrong show. this sucks.
― Cap'n Save-a-tanist (jjjusten), Sunday, 17 October 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago)
i need our new friend aerosmith bootlegs on this thread to back me up on this one i think
― Cap'n Save-a-tanist (jjjusten), Sunday, 17 October 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago)
I interviewed Evil Survives for decibel, nice enough guys. Fun album, too. Probably worth the six bucks. I'm sure Nate knows about spellcaster.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Sunday, 17 October 2010 05:18 (fourteen years ago)
When talking about certain albums, can we please post this beside it in future?http://i53.tinypic.com/10ekigo.gif
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'm gutted that festival is the same weekend as Supersonic.
Mind you, as I'm now in plaster Supersonic is going to be a giant clusterfuck.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
What did you do?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
Broke my ankle* on Friday when I slipped off the edge of a path. It only hurt enough for me to go to hospital today.
* Not 100% confirmed broken yet, but plaster on until Tuesday and I have crutches.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
Supersonic looks great- would love to see Zeni Geva, Eagle Twin, all the headliners, and there are a bunch of acts I haven't heard but am intrigued by.
Hope your dodgy ankle doesn't spoil your fun.
― Neil S, Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
What age are you Aldo? I thought you would be too old to be skateboarding on pavements.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
THAT'S A VERY PERSONAL QUESTION
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Kraken: Kvelertak without the self-confidence.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 18 October 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
i dont see the connection, I guess i better give the Kvelertak another listen, but i dont think they sound alike
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago)
Le Kraken is def more atmospheric.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago)
nah i dont hear similarities at all.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago)
Really? If you play the two track 1s back to back they don't sound vaguely related to you? Ah well. At least I didn't compare them to UnSun.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 18 October 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
Liking the new Slough Feg so far!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago)
today has been a Striborg marathon
just love this dude's sound so much
― the tune is space, Monday, 18 October 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago)
new slough feg is really great. we should be voting for albums like this in the Big ILM EOY Poll, try introduce it to the wider ilx folk. If the autogooners can organise bloc votes then so should we tbh.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
you're assuming that everyone who posts here is a fan of slough feg. count me out.
― dressed up better than anyone within a mile (Bill Magill), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I'm definitely in the thumbs-down camp where SF are concerned.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not especially opinionated about Slough Feg either way, but voting blocs are silly.
― ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
I like Slough Feg, but on first listen I'm not sure this one is any great shakes. The sound of the record is right on but the songs didn't grab me like on some of their other records.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
bloc party 4 slough feg
― markers, Monday, 18 October 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
A big part of being metal is not caring what other people think. What does some poll matter? We know it's awesome.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
except bill & phil
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
still, you know what they say, never trust someone who likes Rush.
Rush>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Slough Feg
― dressed up better than anyone within a mile (Bill Magill), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
farts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rush
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
Bump so I can bookmark and never see that sad slapfest that ruins the width of the thread.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
bill will just do it again then!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
Can a moderator please delete that really long string of >>>?
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago)
Sure, if someone could make me a moderator I'll get right on that!
― ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
Would you ban Rush too?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, October 18, 2010 3:51 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
No, i wont. My bad, I didnt realize that was gonna happen. Sorry
― dressed up better than anyone within a mile (Bill Magill), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
fixed, resisted urge to edit further
― underrated aerosmith logins the rest of u assholes are considering (jjjusten), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
hating on slough feg in a metal thread is ok even I like themdissing rush in a metal thread should be grounds for a temp ban
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
thx for showing up and reminding me that i still had paerody nickname. this should be confusing enough to keep me entertained for a while xpost
― farts vs. Rush in the world series of love (jjjusten), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks JJ!
Yeah, if you can't trust someone who likes Rush, then you're not going to be able to take the word of many people at all on this thread.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
fuck rush and all their bullshit
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
herman in only liking "experimental" metal non-shocker
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
you're confusing me with lj.
Slough Feg aren't exactly noted for being experimental.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Whats next, dissing Sabbath?
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
Next thing you know someone's going to bad mouth Led Zeppelin!
Oh wait, Bill's been there and done that.
Add me to the "Rush rocks!" camp; watched the documentary this weekend and my love only deepened.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Bill hates Led Zep?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
How anyone could prefer Rush over Led Zep is beyond me!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
I do, probably.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
in other news, sky blue, water wet
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago)
... and Wetnurse awesome.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
Rush is a lot more experimental than Led Zeppelin. I like them better too, though I like both. And Rush loves Zep.
ANYWAY - I have yet to catch Spellcaster. Pretty sure they are super young kids.
Also - damn it was so cool to finally see Krallice. Total gems on and off stage.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 18 October 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
The Haulix promo MP3s of the new Atheist album are so low-quality (and glitchy) I pre-ordered the CD from Relapse's website because at this point I really don't feel like I have any idea what the final record will actually sound like.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 18 October 2010 23:27 (fourteen years ago)
one week from tomorrow, the new Kylesa comes out!
― markers, Monday, 18 October 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago)
I hope Kylesa is good when they play on Thursday.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
I've been ranting and raving about glitchy haulix mp3s all year. It's a terrible system for writers to use.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago)
I usually won't listen to beeped promos but the Order of Ennead album is so good I can't help myself
gonna buy the damn thing
proper death metal I tell you what
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I like Order of Ennead.
Just emailed some interview questions to one-woman black metaller Anguished (debut CD out now or soonish on Hammer of Hate). Vocally, she reminds me of Lydia Lunch circa Teenage Jesus - super shrieky and hard to take. But she plays everything except the drums on the disc, so I figure I might as well make MSN readers aware of her work.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone else heard (or mentioned) recent Rise Above signees Ghost? They're from Sweden, and they continue the trend of terrific new traditional metal bands that's been happening as of late. Their MySpace stuff is superb (catchy, seductive, uber-Satanic), and I cannot wait to hear the entire album (which came out today it so happens). RIYL The Devil's Blood, Goblin, Mercyful Fate...
http://www.myspace.com/thebandghost
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago)
Is it my imagination or is old skool heavy metal coming back into vogue?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:15 (fourteen years ago)
fucking shit, nate's post just reminded me that i missed krallice in town this week.
― bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 10:30 (fourteen years ago)
I really like the Ghost stuff I've heard altho RA should have got them to change their name, insofar as the notion of the Japanese Ghost doing a record on that label isn't that much of a stretch
― rmde cat and the dweebs (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago)
I assumed it was a re-release of an old band since I though noone would use the name now.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
so, are you guys into jerseyband? because, like, whoa.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
fixed the formatting (again!)
― Pashmina, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
but really
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
It ain't metal, but anybody who likes extreme music ought to care that there is a new original-lineup Killing Joke album.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago)
It's great at times, but I find myself actually preferring Hosannas overall.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 21 October 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
A very pretty girl just gave me a Burzum shirt that fits me like a glove. Do I wear it out?
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 21 October 2010 09:08 (fourteen years ago)
OH HELL NO/YES
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 21 October 2010 09:18 (fourteen years ago)
but no
Really getting excited about Supersonic now. Say hi if you see me, I will be on crutches so should be easy to spot...
Rough plan:
Necro Deathmort/Fukpig/Devilman/Drumcorps/Napalm Death/Dead Fader
Noise boxes/Eagle Twin/Gnaw/KK Null/Fear of Music/King Midas Sound/Godflesh/Melt Banana
Boredoms film/Matthew Barney film/Ruins/Nisennenmondai/Master Musicians/Factory Floor/Black Sun/Zeni Geva/Deathscalator/Swans
This is where you point out I have made a fatal mistake. Factory Floor may well be that, as the world and his wife seem to be wanting to go.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Thursday, 21 October 2010 10:32 (fourteen years ago)
Godflesh huh?
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Thursday, 21 October 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
huh whats the matthew barney film?
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 October 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
It's the thing he did in Manchester a couple(?) of years ago invoking Egyptian and Elder Gods. He spends most of it with a dog strapped to his head and I think a bull rapes a car.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Aldo, come and dance with me down at the front to Factory Floor!
Me and my mate Manish play Burzum T-shirt bingo in Camden Underworld.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone from Boston coming north for tonight's Kylesa/Torche/High On Fire show in Portland? As of yesterday it wasn't sold out yet. I know they're playing in Boston on Saturday, but why wait?
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago)
I'll be at the Boston show on Saturday :-)
― markers, Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Lazy bugger - make the drive up 95!
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
That Torche album doesn't do anything for me. It feels good getting that off my chest.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I agree. Enjoyed the original version of that track with DLR on it though.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Its no Meanderthal, but I still love it. Surprised to see those comments after just reading the really negative Dusted review of it earlier today.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago)
Doran - I think I said something similar in the Torche thread. I like the last two songs but the rest is "meh". I really like Meanderthal.
To be honest, I'm not a big fan of any of the bands I'm seeing tonight, but they all have decent to great live reputations and good shows don't come my way all the time (though Christian Mistress were excellent a couple of weeks back).
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
Don't get me wrong, last time I saw Torche, they were amazing live... I guess it was an ATP show just after Meanderthal. And High On Fire live is always a killer show.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Matt Pike walked past me once and I was wearing a High On Fire T-shirt. He made the horns to me as he walked past. I had to steady myself against a bollard.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
ATP show was the one after Montoya had been sacked but he played at anyway - Patton/Melvins?
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
That sounds about right.
― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
The Torche EP never really gets going until the last track.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
awesome!!!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
I saw Blake Judd walking down Milwaukee once and I tried to give him a nod/smile thing that was supposed to read "I know who you are and really like you and your band, but I don't want to be all fanboyish about it". He kind of scowled at me in return. Probably because I was wearing my work dress clothes and looked about as un-metal as possible.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Matt & Judd have both snorted coke off my tits. Goddamn you guys are square.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry. I'll go burn all of my metal albums when I get home tonight. :(
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
OK, I had to read that several times to realize the sense of "burn" you meant.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
<3 Jon :)
― Nate Carson, Friday, 22 October 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs362.ash2/64020_159306380754833_114358401916298_408729_2326204_n.jpg
This Ghost album Opus Eponymous is blowing me away. The satanic gimmick is far more effective when it's played totally straight-faced and musically understated like these guys do. Plus they're permanently stuck in 1978, and what's not to like about that?
― A. Begrand, Friday, 22 October 2010 04:22 (fourteen years ago)
I am not feeling Ghost yet. Why do Sweedes never want original band names?
Yeah unless your neighborhood is full of SHARPs or somethin'.
― BENDLESS WOOKIEE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 22 October 2010 04:51 (fourteen years ago)
Ended up leaving during High On Fire's set tonight. HoF bring out the meatheads, and Pike was encouraging them to behave like morons. Not fun. The band aren't really my thing and this show didn't change that, though "Blessed Black Wings" was epic in all the right ways.
However, Torche were quite good and much heavier and rougher live. I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would based on the new record.
The show stealer was definitely the opener, Kylesa. I didn't know what to expect (I haven't warmed to their records in the past) but they are a tight, powerful live band. I have no idea whether they played mainly new stuff or not but it made me a fan and converted a few of my friends who were there as well.
So if you're catching this tour later make sure you get there in time for the opener!
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 October 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks, Adrien, for mentioning that Weapon have a new one coming out.What a powerful album!
― serenchwilen, Friday, 22 October 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
Pike was encouraging them to behave like morons
^like what
― dressed up better than anyone within a mile (Bill Magill), Friday, 22 October 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago)
he asked to see their tits and then snort coke off of them?
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 22 October 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
did i mention that jerseyband are awesome math-metal with trumpet and saxophone, and that the horns are used in a way that is not lame at all
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)
ooh now you're talkinwhy do they have such a crummy name?
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
element of surprise
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
also they appear to have a sense of humor: http://www.myspace.com/jerseyband
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)
by saying things like "that's not a pit! You got to throw yourself around!" and going "fuck yeah!" when people who were headbanging but not moshing get knocked to the ground. One of my friends was right in front rocking out and got pushed up and over the barricade by some meathead during the second song. He was fine and joined me in the back for the rest of it until we left 30 or so minutes in. The "security" didn't help; a couple of the big guys wearing earpieces and staff shirts were right in the middle of the mosh being asshats themselves.
I'm happy he wanted the crowd to be into it but don't encourage people to be assholes. Ended up being forty people up front and 2 or 300 people fifteen feet back from them.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 October 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago)
This is where Nate calls you "square" EZ.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
Yep.
I was never a mosh dude. "I'm here for the music, man!" Luckily, I'm a good sized guy and in general can hold my own if I get stuck in one. My friend who went ass over tit is a little shaver and didn't stand a chance.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 October 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
when i saw high on fire several years ago i was on the periphery and still got knocked around pretty good. still thinking about bailing after torche.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 October 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
I'd never seen them so wanted to give their live show a shot. They were super tight and Pike can play the shit out of the guitar, but there was no conversion from appreciation to fandom like there was for Kylesa, or for Ludicra when I saw them last spring.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 October 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago)
wait, I'm going to get injured just standing there, even if I'm in the back of the room?
― markers, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
nah the pit gravitates towards the front; it's easy to avoid
― call all destroyer, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
yesxp
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
ok good
― markers, Friday, 22 October 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
get in the pit, man. you won't get injured.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Friday, 22 October 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
yeah no, there's no way I wouldn't get destroyed
― markers, Friday, 22 October 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
i'm relatively little and i got bumped around at the eyehategod show i went to earlier this year. it sucked.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 22 October 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
Just over an hour until Necro Deathmort kick off Supersonic.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Friday, 22 October 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
Mosh pits suck and are totally false metal.
― The Porcupine Captain With A Crew of White Rabbits (Viceroy), Saturday, 23 October 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago)
I do miss the days when metal shows were all fist-pumping and headbanging. That was a lifetime ago.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
I used to love the pit from about ages 16-21. Once I got married, though, I eased back. Now I'm the arms-folded guy at the back of the crowd.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago)
last metal show I went to was Metallica/Godsmack in 2004. I'm curious to see what kinda crowd there'll be at the Torche/Kylesa/High On Fire show tomorrow night
― markers, Saturday, 23 October 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago)
One of the things I love about where I live is all the smaller metal shows are still like that. I was actually surprised to see a pit. Obviously, I should only go to shows with less than 100 people.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 23 October 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago)
I've been to shows with circle pits, etc but there's always been a certain level of pit etiquette that I appreciated (ie if you're on the edge and not moshing, no one touches you or invades your space, and so on). I'm all for letting people have their fun provided it doesn't get impede on mine.
Quite honestly the worst show I was ever at was a Pearl Jam arena gig at the old Point in Dublin; there was nowhere safe to stand as the crowd kept surging backwards and forwards and side to side like we were in a fucking wave pool. Not for me, thanks.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 23 October 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago)
I loved the pit when I was a kid. There was a sense of camaraderie in the somewhat small scene I was in at the time; a lot of people knew each others faces from other shows and most of the shows were 18+ so alcohol wasn't a big worry. It was never about hurting other people and in fact, people were more about keeping each other on their feet. When people fell down, they were picked up. People on the outsides of the pit acted as a cushion/barrier and mostly pushed people back in. I had a friend who was pretty small and got tossed around a lot, but he was even more into it than I was. I never saw any serious injuries.
These days when I go to shows I get a lot more out of watching the performers do their thing, but I still see the pit as a pretty fundamental aspect of death/thrash metal. All that said, I would steer way clear of a mosh pit at a rock show like Torche.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
I've been listening to a lot of new stuff at random today,and this black/death band from Belfast really grabbed my attention.
http://www.myspace.com/altusastrum
Their debut full-length just came out this month.All four tracks on their myspace are pretty impressive.
― serenchwilen, Saturday, 23 October 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
I hate pits but they do have their place. What I hate more is when there's no pit, but there's 1-3 guys trying to make one and just generally upsetting the vibe for the rest of us geezers.
Saw Triptykon play a crushing set to less than 100 people in Portland last night. Despite the dismal turnout, they played a set that made me feel utterly purified. I can see how this band could easily bore a lot of folks, but the minimalism and heaviness is EXACTLY what I want from this band. Tom is in great form, the band look and sound excellent, and they do so much musically with so little. Also the entire set was Frost/Triptykon/Frost/Triptykon the whole time. A very nice crowd-pleasing balance.
Then I crossed town to see a late set from Ancestors who made full use of their organist and modular synth players. Super epic jams. Great night all round.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 24 October 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago)
Helluva a double last night Nate! Jealous as I'd love to see them both.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 October 2010 01:00 (fourteen years ago)
posting from the high on fire/torche/kylesa show. hof still to play; got to hang out with markers for a bit before he had to catch a train. fun night!
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago)
^ cosign!
― markers, Sunday, 24 October 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
Fuck yes - Monarch are touring the U.S.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Sunday, 24 October 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
Yup. West coast dates with Trees. I'll see them in PDX 11/3. Hopefully right after I get out of the Gordon Lightfoot show.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 25 October 2010 07:23 (fourteen years ago)
Home after Supersonic and fighting the urge to go and see Zeni Geva again in a couple of hours. Review of sorts to come later, but for now think of it this way: AWESOME.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 25 October 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
Still undecided whether I'm going to Zeni Geva tomorrow... got Swans on Thursday already
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 25 October 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously, Zeni Geva were on fucking fire. I am just feeling it after a whole weekend.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 25 October 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
Also, two disc "My Father..." being listed on the merch table as tour only, so might be your last chance to get it.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Monday, 25 October 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
been away from this thread for a little while but I just read this and am crackin' up.
also, screwed ride the lightning is awesome.
― original bgm, Monday, 25 October 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
I am not the tr00 metal. :(
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 25 October 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
take a look at that poll right before you're bannedit's the last time you will!
― markers, Monday, 25 October 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
just kicked off my first spin through the new enslaved lp. this shit kills!!
― original bgm, Monday, 25 October 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
So first we had Dimmu Borgir dragging Enslaved around the country as their opening act, and now Cradle of Filth have announced that Nachtmystium will be opening their U.S. tour in February. What's going on here? Is there some kind of alliance between pomptastic ex-black-metal bands and arty post-black-metal bands?
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 25 October 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
is the new Dimmu Borgir worth a shit?
― markers, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
Someone should take a shit on dimmu borgir. Awful band.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago)
The Dimmu album is okay in parts, but it's totally on autopilot. The orchestral arranger actually does all the work, the actual band just phones it in.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and the first week numbers of the Dimmu album are really mediocre. The last album sold 15,000+ first week in 2007, and Abrahadabra is way down, 9,400. "Gateways" was a disastrous choice for a single, based on that song I don't blame the consumers for staying away.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
"consumers" says it all about those buying dimmu borgir and cradle of filth et al
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
I've never heard anything by them, but I guess I'll be passing on their new one
― markers, Monday, 25 October 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago)
I'm one of "those" buying Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth records. Consume yourself.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago)
lol!
― markers, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone else heard the new EP by Djerv? The female singer from Animal Alpha (and Dimmu Borgir's latest) teamed up with a guy from Trelldom and a guy from Stonegard to creat a really cool fusion of blackened riffs and modern hard rock. Factor in her distinctive voice, and it's pretty unique stuff. The three songs are fantastic, especially "Immortal"...I'm looking forward to their new album, apparently coming out next year on Indie.
http://www.myspace.com/djervmusic
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago)
So first we had Dimmu Borgir dragging Enslaved around the country as their opening act, and now Cradle of Filth have announced that Nachtmystium will be opening their U.S. tour in February. What's going on here? Is there some kind of alliance between pomptastic ex-black-metal bands and arty post-black-metal bands?"
50% a hand-out to bands they respect, 50% makes them look cooler since fans with better taste have been steering clear of them for a long time.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 08:52 (fourteen years ago)
As for Zeni Geva--holy shit they were great when I saw them in Barcelona earlier this year. What a lineup!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago)
OK, Supersonic.
Friday: Necro Deathmort - BM overtones, doom ambient electronica squelching? May have suffered a bit from being the first thing on (and getting in was running late) but still the highpoint on Friday. See a bit of Gum Takes Tooth, who are entertaining enough in a sub-Lightning Bolt way. Fukpig are up next and they're not half as good as they think they are. Pretty competent crust/grind, but not much more and great play is made for the remainder of the weekend out of the chorus of 'Mind Attack' which is just WRONG. I stand no chance of getting into the packed (and apparently awesome) Devilman with my ankle so hang on for Drumcorps, which is great for about 5 minutes of his set. The rest is like when Moby goes hardcore, with some crap sub-Alec Empire shite thrown in. Ugh. The day ends (yes, I know, I should have gone to Dead Fader but my leg was hurting too much by then) with Napalm Death, who do pretty much what you'd expect them to, although it's a bit quiet really. I have a discussion on Sunday with the Hardcore Sean Hughes about Barney and how everyone thinks of him as the new boy but he's been in the band for TWENTY YEARS. Is it wrong to hanker after a lineup that existed for barely 2 years against a lineup that's been pretty stable for 2 decades? I THINK NOT.
Saturday: I spend the afternoon remembering how to solde making a noisebox with Glatze. http://www.supersonicfestival.com/line-up/workshops/supersonic-noise-boxes Amplified, it will make some racket. Despite being the first to finish the box, I barely make the start of Eagle Twin and watch them be not quite as good as Big Business (but still pretty fucking good). Gnaw recover from a shit first ten minutes to become IMMENSE, a glacier of doom surrounding Alan Dubin being tortured. Into an utterly rammed library for maybe the best thing all weekend - Lash Frenzy v KK Null is full of smoke, sweaty bodies, blokes wandering round shining strobes in your face, a bass tuba through a mass of pedals and shards of noise pulling at every part of your body. It's like Sunn playing at normal pitch and speed, but with added violence. Amazing. Catch a bit of Cloaks, which is OK if you like dubstep, which I have to confess I'm not made keen on. OvO veer between good and fucking apalling. Fat Gimp vs Owl Woman, which sees her playing her dreads with a violin bow at one point. Which is as bad as it sounds. King Midas Sound get things back on track soon, with the loudest bass of the weekend. Like being punched in the face by Wladimir Klitschko and being brought round by angels singing to you. Kev Martin is till a ringer for Bill Bailey though. Godflesh are Godflesh. There is no other description. Like Rats/Christbait Rising/Streetcleaner/Tiny Tears/Avalanche Master Song/Weak Flesh/Spite/Mothra/Pure/Bigot/Crush My Soul/Slateman. I would have loved them to have done Pulp, but I'm being greedy. Maybe the first Godflesh show I've ever been at that wasn't in some way disappointing, the obligatory fuckup this time was that it wasn't loud enough at the beginning. Melt Banana closed the day with their usual disregard for anyone's health. They have added an electronic noise squelch part to the set for the first 15 minutes or so, which undoubtedly adds to the fun. They never let you down.
Sunday: The pigeon fly-past is cancelled because one of them has salmonella. Beat that, ATP. We choose to have a quiet day by watching the 77BOADRUM film, then intend to watch Rob from Lichens' picks of short films - only half of them don't work, including the Matthew Barney centrepiece. Rob apologises to us every time he sees us for the remainder of the day, and it finally screens at 9. It's challenging even by Barney's standards, and lots of people watching it just don't get it. Which is fine, but YOUR LAUGHING IS KIND OF SPOILING IT FOR THE REST OF US. The library is rammed again for Ruins, they're turning people away but we manage to get in via the back doors before they notice. He's great, but doesn't really do anything new for anyone who's seen him before. Nisennenmondai are, if it were possible, even better than they were last year. They now have a definite Italo edge to their sound, but the bass player is still rubbish. MMOB are late starting and sound pretty good, but it's too late in the year to stand around listening to that sort of thing. Would have been fine in the summer. Factory Floor take a long time to get going, and are the most disinterested teenagers at the whole event, but once they do it's easy to see why people are going on about them. Joy Division meets TG? Really don't knwo what the best way to describe it is. Zeni Geva blast my face off. Uncompromising and brutal. SWANS are not dead. They are the embodiment of frustration, a continuing wave of barely contained violence that always threatens to erupt but never quite does. The songs build and build and build and if this was post-rock it'd break soon, but it never does. They play for nearly two hours, instead of the sheduled 70 minutes. We leave, battered and bruised.
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 10:18 (fourteen years ago)
I thought laughing at Matthew Barney was the whole point.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
Listened to the new Dimmu last night and Adrien is very much OTM. Its like they realized how half-assed the songs were and handed them over to the orchestra to spice them up instead of, you know, trying to make them actually engaging first.
Have any of you heard that Dwarr Animals reissue on Drag City? Basically crazy 80s one-man-band stuff that is equal parts metal and weird, bedroom psych. It isn't revelatory stuff, but I have a feeling a few of you may find something to like.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago)
Interview with Monster Magnet's Dave Wyndorf (part 1 of 2, with the rest coming Thursday)
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
Trip Report: COUGH - Ritual Abuse is fucking amazing.
― The Porcupine Captain With A Crew of White Rabbits (Viceroy), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 06:37 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twMCPzY6IZg
Vestments: check. Mitre: check. Burning thurible: check. Skull facepaint: check. Dead serious stage presence: check.
Damn, I'm liking Ghost a ton.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago)
I'm definitely warming to the Dimmu Borgir the more I listen to it. I agree with the observation that the songs mostly don't seem to have been constructed so that they'd sound complete without the orchestra, but to me that's not a criticism. The orchestra on this record is very much part of the sound. It makes as much sense to say that something wasn't composed to sound just as good without drums. It could be, but that wouldn't necessarily be better. An arrangement is a whole, not a sum of individually independent parts.
"Gateways" also doesn't strike me as a disastrous choice of single, but if it had been up to me, I probably would have picked "Born Treacherous", "Chess With the Abyss" or "Dimmu Borgir". And while I'm usually skeptical of "orchestral version" bonus tracks, in this case the symphony-only reprise of "Gateways" kind of works for me, bookending the mostly-orchestral intro "Xibir" and playing like exit music after the fairly dramatic band finale of "Endings and Continuations".
Also, I think the orchestral parts on this album are pretty impressive, and the integration is ambitious in scope. Maybe they don't always quite pull if off: a couple songs towards the end still seem to me like they lose their momentum, but I'm always suspicious when I feel like an album lags towards the end. Is the album lagging, or am I just not quite in sync with it yet?
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
hey, nice! I really liked the last one.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
Really liking the Stargazer album. Trio prog-death; think Sadus crossed with the Trio of Doom (McLaughlin/Pastorius/Williams) and a (very) little (early) Opeth thrown in.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
whoa, I could do with some of that
― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago)
It's on Profound Lore. I think it'll be right up your street.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)
"think Sadus..." = instant excitement
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)
the stargazer is good. somebody upthread recommended their previous album, "the scream that tore the sky." their split with invocation from '99 is good too.
― mte, Thursday, 28 October 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
Something else I recommend: Missing Time, the new CD by Many Arms. If The Process of Weeding Out is your favorite Black Flag record, you need this more than you know.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
Does anyone know when Jeff Wagner's Prog Metal book comes out? I enjoyed the excerpt from Decibel, but Amazon doesn't even have a release date up for it.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 October 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago)
If The Process of Weeding Out is your favorite Black Flag record, you need this more than you know.
If The Process of Weeding out is your favorite Black Flag record, who are you?!
― Borbotemungus or something like that. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 29 October 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago)
hey what grindcore bands are on tour right now/soon?
― (♥_♥) (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 October 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
No idea re grind, but I already know of two shows I'm going to next month: Monarch/Bloody Panda on 11/12 (though it's not listed on Cake Shop's website yet) and Blind Guardian/Holy Grail on 11/20.
Full BG tour dates:
11/19/10 The Trocadero – Philadelphia, PA11/20/10 Best Buy Theatre (formerly The Nokia) – New York, NY11/21/10 The Palladium – Worcester, MA11/23/10 Metropolis – Montreal, QC – CANADA11/25/10 Theatre Capitole – Quebec City, QC – CANADA11/26/10 Kool Haus – Toronto, ON – CANADA11/27/10 Royal Oak Music Theatre – Royal Oak, MI11/29/10 Bottom Lounge – Chicago, IL11/30/10 The Cabooze – Minneapolis, MN12/01/10 The Garrick Centre – Winnipeg, MB – CANADA12/03/10 MacEwan Hall Ballroom – Calgary, AB – CANADA12/04/10 The Starlite Room – Edmonton, AB – CANADA12/06/10 Showbox at The Market – Seattle, WA12/08/10 The Regency Ballroom – San Francisco, CA12/09/10 Henry Fonda Theatre / The Music Box – Los Angeles, CA12/10/10 Marquee Theatre – Tempe, AZ12/11/10 Sunshine Theater – Albuquerque, NM12/12/10 Bluebird Theater – Denver, CO12/14/10 Trees – Dallas, TX12/15/10 Scout Bar – Houston, TX12/17/10 The Orange Peel – Asheville, NC12/18/10 The State Theatre – St. Petersburg, FL ***FLORIDA POWER FEST***12/19/10 The Masquerade – Atlanta, GA12/21/10 Lincoln Theatre - Raleigh, NC12/22/10 Jaxx – W. Springfield, VA
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Saturday, 30 October 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago)
Disappointed BG is skipping my city (open date and everything, aargh).
Meanwhile, it's becoming more and more apparent that the new Agalloch just might be my album of the year. It's growing on me something fierce.
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 30 October 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
Blind Guardian are like a step away from grind.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Saturday, 30 October 2010 05:32 (fourteen years ago)
i'm looking for well known (not playing in arenas or anything remotely like that though) bands to play at a grind festival, if they are planning on touring the US already that usually helps immensely
― (♥_♥) http://i46.tinypic.com/monk6.jpg (roxymuzak), Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
I can ask around...drop me an email [pdfreeman at gmail dot com] with more info (date, location, etc.).
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
still rocking that display name, huh?
― bitch i'm jjjusten at em (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
emailed you
― (♥_♥) http://i46.tinypic.com/monk6.jpg (roxymuzak), Saturday, 30 October 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to Heaven & Hell's Neon Nights: Live in Europe now. It's a fitting capper to Dio's career: heavy as fuck, impassioned and powerful. Great set list, too, encompassing the whole catalog (three songs from The Devil You Know). I got the CD and DVD versions in the mail.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Sunday, 31 October 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
Today's successful auditions:- Goth/black-metal/gloom-rock sweep of the Vision Bleak's Set Sail to Mystery, which I almost wrote off without listening due to the over-themed-looking cover.- Gleaming speed-death romp from Dawn of Ashes, meaning I will try to make it to the Enslaved/Dimmu Borgir show on time to see them in their opening-opening slot.- Very excited about the dark-folk compilation Whom the Moon a Nightsong Sings, albeit not on grammatical grounds.- I'd written off Kamelot, Queensryche and Paradise Lost a while ago, but the new Kamelot album, Poetry for the Poisoned, is at least initially sounding to me like a combination of the things I once liked about all three.
Not so successful:- Really liked the rawness of the music on the new Woe album; really hated the shrieky, monotonous vocals.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
That Kamelot album is a good one, something I wasn't expecting. Their last couple didn't do anything for me.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 1 November 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
Wrote about Blind Guardian on BurningAmbulance.com today; review of the new Electric Wizard coming tomorrow.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Monday, 1 November 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
Don't be shy about interrupting me and EZ on the nearly-moribund Metal Listening Club thread, where I'm just going to keep posting stuff until somebody else cuts me off...
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
Today on BurningAmbulance.com, my thoughts on the new Electric Wizard album. (It's pretty great.)
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago)
Any word of a US release date on the ELectric Wizard? The import isn't too expensive (and it's downright cheap on iTunes), but if a domestic release isn't too far of I'll wait.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago)
No idea. Figure early 2011, though.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
I was hoping a date might have been in a press kit. Well, it's only a few bucks as opposed to double the price or something.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago)
Just listening to the Mortemia album again. You know before you start it that's it's off-brand Sirenia, which some would claim was already off-brand Tristania, but I readily admit that I like Morten Veland's epicgothicdeathchoir thing a lot, and am perfectly happy to listen to him trying to perfect it in its own terms. In the abstract I'd have guessed I'd like it less without female lead vocals (the women are banished to the choir for this one, and he does all the lead croaking himself), but in fact that doesn't end up bothering me at all. This is an album of consolidation, not innovation, but I have time for that. I might even have a 2010 top 10 spot for it.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
My inside source reports back that the EW disc is likely a January release through Metal Blade (they, not Candlelight, have the Rise Above contract now).
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
Thank you sir! Ordered the import this morning.
By the way, if for some reason you didn't buy the Judas Priest box set Metalogy before now, my local has it brand new on sale for $15.97. Yep, 4 discs and a DVD for that price. If you are interested and don't have a Bull Moose in your area, their website (bullmoose.com) has the same price.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
Enthusiastic after-two-listens endorsement for folk-ambience-tinged battering Finnish black metal band Draugnim, whose new (second) album is called Horizons Low.
Also, damn, this Kamelot album is really good.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Today's BurningAmbulance.com review: the latest by Texas grindcore kings Kill The Client.
― No Means Yes. Yes Means Anal. (unperson), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 13:12 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to Wino's (mostly) acoustic album Adrift, released a couple of weeks ago on Exile on Mainstream. It's really great. It's actually more of a "drumless" album than an "acoustic" album, as quite a few tracks have overdubbed electric guitar solos, but he appears to be the only person on it. Shows that as awesome as his guitar tone is, he's not totally amp-dependent and is in fact a pretty damn good songwriter. It's certainly much less boring than acoustic records by, say, the Neurosis dudes have been.
― new non-rapey display name (unperson), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
I'm a little surprised to be saying this... but the new Disturbed actually isn't too bad. Got some pretty decent metal riffs and solos, and Rabbi Draiman keeps the awk-ing down.
― sounds like Dream Theater (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
Finally catching up and hearing the new Slough Feg album. I'm not as rabid as quite a few of you are, but I'm enjoying this well enough. I don't understand why anyone hates this stuff though, its kinda like hating desert. You can say you've heard better, but this stuff seems pretty difficult to actively dislike.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:11 (fourteen years ago)
The Slough Feg really does have staying power, I'm enjoying it more now than a couple months ago. That Alan Parsons Project cover is killer.
And I actually like the title track off that Disturbed album.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
I cancelled my subscription to Decibel last week. Since signing up in March I only received six issues - and three of those I had to ask for when they failed to show up many weeks after the due date.
I can't complain about the service of Mark at Decibel, he replied quickly whenever I contacted him and did whatever he could to help. But if I'm not getting my issues in the post, what's the point in subscribing? It's not like I'm in an awkward location - mail from the States takes only a few days to get here, usually less.
I don't know if this is a common issue for international subscribers, but in any case I won't be subscribing to Decibel again.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago)
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Herm Neuname ruined these guys for me.
― Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
I'm not going to be suckered into hearing another Disturbed album, I'm not going to be suckered into hearing another Disturbed album, I'm not going to be suckered into hearing another Disturbed album, I'm not...
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
It's good. But I like them more than most posters here.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago)
I wrote about the latest Grand Magus album for BurningAmbulance.com today - they're signed to Roadrunner, but the album hasn't been released in the US and they're not even listed on the label's artists page...weird, right?
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
who did this agalloch "review"
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs909.snc4/72208_10150112133364816_663344815_7570148_1955142_n.jpg
― (♥_♥) http://i46.tinypic.com/monk6.jpg (roxymuzak), Friday, 5 November 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago)
someone on fb
― markers, Friday, 5 November 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago)
man, just listened to the new agalloch. was all like, "this is a great agalloch record. nothing new but solid as hell" until the manuel gottsching delay pedal action kicked in!!
― original bgm, Friday, 5 November 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago)
i refuse to listen until i get my own copythat diagram is ridic
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 5 November 2010 04:14 (fourteen years ago)
moody moog!
― Nate Carson, Friday, 5 November 2010 09:44 (fourteen years ago)
Thrones/Monarch/Trees was really great last night. Monarch's drummer didn't make it to the US, but Rob from Dark Castle is more than ably filling the spot. It was crushing.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 5 November 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago)
Wow, Agrypnie! German elegiac melodic atmospheric black metal, with a vocalist somewhere between the customary black-metal rasp and the emotive howl of Lifelover. The new album is called 16(485) (with square brackets, but I suspect BBcode might screw that up). I can feel as tired of black metal as anybody else after a string of 9 or 10 gray-black blurs, but to me this is another striking example of somebody seeing "black metal" as a kind of sigil for the vast artistic potential of accepting the presence of darkness. Somewhere between 1349 and that last Nargaroth album?
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 5 November 2010 13:09 (fourteen years ago)
not someone on fb, an agalloch posted it on his fb and i linked from that
― (♥_♥) http://i46.tinypic.com/monk6.jpg (roxymuzak), Friday, 5 November 2010 13:42 (fourteen years ago)
Finally playing the Agalloch now. This as the Agrypnie go together pretty well, actually, although the Agalloch's version of "atmosphere" is more acoustic.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 5 November 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
Winding down metal week at BurningAmbulance.com with a write-up on Interment, a Swedish death metal band that formed in 1988 but didn't record an album until this year.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 5 November 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
BREAKING NEWS Lordi: the game for iPhone/pad/whatever free today /drudgesiren.jpg
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 5 November 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
And.....its predictably hilariously bad
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 5 November 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
Aesop found that diagram on RYM and posted it on his FB. And mine.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 6 November 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago)
I have to listen more closely for that Nanotear Moog!
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 November 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago)
Enslaved live in Worcester: set too short, of course, but still magnificent. And I wonder whose doing it is that the house music while they clear the stage for Dimmu Borgir is all Dio? Crowd seems to be thinning a bit, but maybe they all just went to buy Enslaved shirts. Still lots of facepaint in evidence. If there were a table where you could make hats out of popsicle sticks or something, this would practically qualify as a kids' event. I feel bad that I left my 3yo daughter at home asleep.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 November 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago)
"I have to listen more closely for that Nanotear Moog!"
There's 14 tracks of Moog for about 3 minutes in the middle of Blake Lake Nidstang. Hard to miss ;)
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 6 November 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago)
OK, Dimmu Borgir are pretty good live, too. "Gateways" is getting a pretty rapturous reception as I post, so maybe it wasn't a bad choice for a single after all.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 November 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
Although I think the effect would have been way greater if they'd brought somebody to sing the female lines instead of playing them off recordings. And a couple violins, at least? One guy with two keyboards can sound like a symphony, but watching him isn't quite the same. Although he is wearing white pants, so obviously that's something.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 November 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago)
It's like they're trying to be the black metal version of Angel.
http://www.heavyharmonies.com/bandpics/angel.jpg
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 November 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, nobody is going to mistake them for THAT. Polar opposite approach to grooming, for starters.
Also: driving home from the show, I had that Agrypnie album playing again. For the moment, at least, it seems like a serious album-of-the-year contender for me in a really strong year. Repeatedly and extendedly breathtaking in its scope. And I just saw Enslaved, and was playing Axioma Ethica Odini on the drive out, so it's not like they're rising out of a slush pile.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 November 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago)
Fucking hell, this Lesbian album is a bit good, eh?
― Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Saturday, 6 November 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone heard the advance copy of Hell's Human Remains?Apparently, they still haven't secured a label deal for it.
I think they just might have the best logo ever!http://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/8/4/9/5849_logo.jpg
― serenchwilen, Saturday, 6 November 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
I'm working on my top 20 and realized that I have not heard a note of the following 2010 albums:
Devin Townsend - AddictedIhsahn - AfterRotting Christ - AEALOHigh on Fire - Snakes for the DivineLandmine Marathon - Sovereign DescentUnleashed - As Yggdrasil TemblesAlcest - Ecailles De LuneBurzum - BelusUnearthly Trance - VJucifer - Thrones in BloodMelvins - The Bride Screamed MurderWatain - Lawless DarknessNachtmystium - AddictsGrand Magus - Hammer of the NorthLighting Swords of Death - The Extra Dimensional WorldUfomammut - EveIron Maiden - Final FrontierZoroaster - MatadorKylesa - Spiral ShadowSwans - My Father Will Guide Me...Killing Joke - Absolute DissentMelechesh - The EpigenesisGhost - Opus EponymousElectric Wizard - Black MassesAtheist - Jupiter
― Nate Carson, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:11 (fourteen years ago)
Well I can save you some time and tell you to skip the Melvins album. It isn't a BAD album, just pretty disappointing in terms of the recent uptick in quality since they absorbed the Big Business guys.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago)
I'm liking the Atheist album pretty well, for what it is, but I definitely don't like what it is as much as I like some other things.
Of the things on Nate's unheard list, I'd be unwilling to unhear Ihsahn, Rotting Christ, Alcest, Grand Magus, Iron Maiden and Killing Joke.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago)
The Ufomammut is another solid Ufomammut record; a little more focused than they've been for a bit. The Kylesa is seriously kicking my ass - absolutely love it, where I haven't really warmed to them in the past. Really liked the Ihsahn last winter and need to revisit it. Same with the Alcest.
Didn't care for, probably not my thing: High on Fire, Nachtmystium, Zoroaster, Unearthly Trance.
Want to hear: Grand Magous, Electric Wizard, Ghost.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago)
Also have not heard the latest Danzig or Converge.
That's the thing with me: I see 100 shows in a year. Hundreds of bands live. I hear/make time for very few new albums.
I am definitely loving Wolvserpent, Cathedral, Ludicra, Christian Mistress, Triptykon, Sabbath Assembly, Enslaved, Hail of Bullets, Withered, Immolation, Dusted Angel, and the Rush single. :)
Honorable mention for Agalloch and METAL SWIM too but hey--I can't really vote for those anywhere.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Kind of regretting my decision to wait to hear the new Kylesa until I get my own physical copy, because I ordered it three weeks ago and Amazon has still yet to ship it. It keeps getting bumped back for some reason. Distribution problems?
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago)
Did you order the limited edition with the DVD or single disc? I think the single disc isn't actually out until December.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:29 (fourteen years ago)
Hmmm, I think the single disc, but I just checked the site and they now have it updated to say the single-disc version gets released this Tuesday, the 9th. So hopefully I'll have it before the end of the week. Just getting antsy after reading all the solid reviews.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago)
The little DVD was actually quite nice. 45 minute "making of the album" documentary, with short interviews and Q&As with each of the members. Was really helpful for me since this is the record where I got on board.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago)
I opted out of that, simply because those bonus DVDs just end up piling up around me completely unwatched.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 November 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
If it had in any way increased the cost I would have been right with ya.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 November 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago)
There's a new Rush single? Oh.
Oh!
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago)
Ha, Nate, your list of stuff you haven't heard looks like my top 20 list for the year.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Monday, 8 November 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
Now playing: Atheist, Jupiter. Okay, I love Atheist's first three albums (yes, even Elements). And the promo MP3s were so low-quality that I fucking bought this one. But I don't know if I can get behind it. It doesn't sound like Atheist to me. Granted, there's only two original members still in the band (vocalist/guitarist Kelly Shaefer and drummer Steve Flynn), but the two new guitarists are playing all these Dillinger Escape Plan riffs, and Shaefer's vocals sound like Chad Gray from Mudvayne. Granted, the cover art is awesome - it's a painting of a lion and a bear wrestling inside a snow globe. But I don't know if that'll salvage it. At least it's got a dynamic mix, and isn't all brick-walled to shit like most current metal. That's something.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 8 November 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
At least it's got a dynamic mix, and isn't all brick-walled to shit like most current metal.
frankly, this description makes it sound like it's an album of the year contender to me
― honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 8 November 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
I wasn't too excited about hearing it, but yeah, technical death metal with tasteful production is definitely a rarity these days.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 8 November 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
I wouldn't call it "tasteful" - it's still Jason Suecof mixing - but it's unclipped, and every instrument gets its own space.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 8 November 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
so tonight i was helping a classmate with an assignment in the computer lab and noticed her updating a blog between tasks. not to be creepy but i go home and find said blog--the major topics are starting a pornogrind band and sexual fantasies involving varg vikernes.
just had to share with folks who would know what the fuck i was talking about.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
looooooool
― markers, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago)
I demand a link.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago)
Also her phone # tia
― Up the voltage. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 05:44 (fourteen years ago)
call all destroyer - you are my kind of creep. That rules.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
I have to listen to a whole Crimson Glory boxed set today.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago)
I used to like Crimson Glory. Or, at least, I bought three of their albums, and didn't mind hearing them.
This morning I'm enjoying the recent best-of from Entwine, although I haven't gotten to the dubious-sounding second disc of "stripped" versions yet.
Also, did I mention this German band Agrypnie? If so, did I mention that their new album is awesome, compositionally expansive black metal?
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
The Entwine alternate versions aren't terrible, but neither do I really see any need for them to exist. Probably I think the same thing about the compilation, period. Entwine albums are pretty consistent, and there aren't that many of them. Start anywhere.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
I still enjoy Crimson Glory very much. Their first two albums, anyway.
I tried to finagle a review copy of the box set, but to no avail.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
So I'm not supposed to reveal any details about the new Crowbar, but I will say that sobriety has not affected Kirk Windstein's ability to lay down some truly devastating sludge.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
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― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, I'm very pleased to report that I enjoyed the new Cradle of Filth on first listen, which puts this one way ahead of the last one in my world. They seem to have remembered that energy and intensity are different from volume and speed!
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
And good songwriting, I hope. The last couple felt so lazy at times.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
I gave the Cradle an 8 in my decibel review, but they bumped it down to a 7, which didn't surprise me at all.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago)
Now that the fucking Financial Times has weighed in on the Salome album, I feel like I should ignore it on principle. But I've gotta write about it for AMG, so eventually that'll happen. In the meantime, though, I reviewed the second album by Mexican trad-metallers Voltax at BurningAmbulance.com today.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
Children of Technology album on Hell's Headbangers is pretty sweet. I am kind of a sucker for d-beat/metal hybrid bands, though.
― Up the voltage. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago)
wow, had no idea salome were getting this kind of press. (and lol @ financial times.)
good for them. like the album but I haven't formulated much of an opinion beyond that.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone digging the new Black Anvil, "Triumvirate?"
The riffage at the end of the first track, "What Is Life If Not Now!" is my favorite metal moment this year.
― Brooker T Buckingham, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
Has nobody talked about Deathspell Omega yet? Really?
This can only be because we don't comment on leaks then, right? Because otherwise, top 10 this year.
― ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago)
I reviewed it for AMG this very day. I don't like it as much as its two predecessors (too fast 'n' blasty w/o the weirdness that made them what they are - or, apparently, were) but yeah, it's plenty solid. I still think Spektr are my favorite of the French weirdo-BM acts.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago)
haha so Danzig was supposed to play in town tonight at a club called the cabooze but apparently threw some sort of fit because the stage was not large enough to hold his awesomeness or whatever and cancelled the show at the last minute. a buddy of mine just sent me a photo of the cabooze response, which was to change the marquee to read FUCK DANZIG in big illuminated letters
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
Care to email me that photo? I'll throw it up on MSN tomorrow morning.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah sure, is yer ilx email the best one to get it to you?
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:14 (fourteen years ago)
haaa
― markers, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago)
eh i just went ahead and sent it to that address (its a h0tm41l one so hope thats right). subject line is danzig photo. let me know if you dont get it.
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago)
dear danzig,
smaller stage = bigger looking tiny you, id say go for it next time dude.
yours,jjjusten
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
the stage was not large enough to hold his awesomenesswas gonna say was it 2'x2' o que because he is basically same size as me only more beefy
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
Got it, thanks. It'll be up on MSN Music tomorrow...
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
PLS post a link to that, gotta see it.
― Up the voltage. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 11 November 2010 02:28 (fourteen years ago)
Not enough room for his cat litter pyro.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 11 November 2010 11:06 (fourteen years ago)
Funny. I finally "acquired" the new Danzig album this evening. And I actually enjoyed quite a few tunes on it. Will be seeing him next Tuesday as I assume the Roseland is big enough--I've seen him play there twice before. He hasn't been very good live since the early 90s though :(
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 11 November 2010 11:08 (fourteen years ago)
Ten bucks says someone's going to leave Danzig a bunch of cat litter backstage as though it was part of his rider. Where was the interview where the journalist kept trying to get him to talk about that photo, and he was just desperate to dodge it? That was cracking me up.
― She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 11 November 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
Danzig story at MSN: http://bit.ly/d0KVwh
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago)
― markers, Thursday, 11 November 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
so last night i was thinking 'i wonder if theres such a thing as free improv metal' and i found painkiller. this shit's pretty tite, anyone got any more suggestions?
― die fokken achewood (diamonddave85), Thursday, 11 November 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
You should also listen to Last Exit (pre-Painkiller) and you might like Yakuza (thrash w/saxophone) and Ehnahre (weird, atonal death metal w/some horns on the new record).
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
gorguts, obscura is very much the opposite of improv but the wild, dissonant playing on the record might do the trick anyway.
― original bgm, Thursday, 11 November 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
ehnahre sounds good. will be checking them out.
Something else that definitely fits into this category would be John Zorn's band Moonchild (vocals by Mike Patton, bass by Trevor Dunn, drums by Joey Baron, sax by Zorn sometimes, guitar by Marc Ribot sometimes). Five CDs: Moonchild, Astronome, Six Litanies for Heliogabalus, The Crucible and Ipsissimus. Every bit as intense as Painkiller but more composed - a crushingly heavy mix of hardcore and skronk-jazz. Ipsissimus just came out at the end of September and it's fucking phenomenal. This band is totally being slept on, not only by headbangers who used to worship Naked City and Painkiller but by the Patton cult, too, it seems.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't heard the new one, but the s/t Moonchild album is fantastic.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
I'd add Massacre to this list. Their 1981 album Killing Time featured Bill Laswell, Fred Maher and Fred Frith. It's more from the jazz end really but it's improv and has a solid metal aesthetic.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago)
Blood Stereo and Aufgehoben as well. The Thing ft Mats Gustafsson.
And Zu, even though I don't really think it's that 'free', the mix of saxophone and Jesus Lizard style rhythm section is mind blowing.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
Oh hell yeah, The Thing is awesome. I literally stumbled across them in Oslo (they were playing at Rockefeller while I was waiting for Sahg to come on at the Annex next door) and they left me absolutely floored.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago)
So is it just me, or have Gwar been on kind of a bizarre creative streak since Violence Has Arrived? I never heard the one where they went to hell and killed Satan, but their last few have been pretty excellent.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 11 November 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago)
the cato salsa experience + the thing is also a good recordsounds like a sandwich, i think it's called?
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, 12 November 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago)
this shit's pretty tite, anyone got any more suggestions?
GRAVITAR, dude. "Now the Road of Knives."
― The E Trip of Pillgamesh (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 November 2010 06:40 (fourteen years ago)
Oh and I may be the last to know this, but "Hallow's Victim" and "The Walking Dead" by Saint Vitus is available on CD again. And on vinyl, I think. Hooray!
― The E Trip of Pillgamesh (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 November 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago)
this is a cool record that i heard like 5 years ago and had totally forgotten about!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 November 2010 06:59 (fourteen years ago)
wow these are all really great. im officially obsessed
― die fokken achewood (diamonddave85), Friday, 12 November 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't know either! Man, Greg Ginn doesn't really want anyone to know SST is still a going concern, does he?
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago)
Publicists are for posers.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 13 November 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
I think he only represses stuff when he needs more money for weed and/or to press copies of his boring vanity project jam bands.
― The E Trip of Pillgamesh (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 13 November 2010 05:50 (fourteen years ago)
Saw Monarch last night. Good set; one long piece, "Sabbat Noir" (which is also their new CD, which I bought).
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 13 November 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
glenn macdonald in the house!
― scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
The "house" in question here being Scott's excellent record store and Lincoln Log construction studio in Greenfield, MA, where I dropped by with my daughter for a brief visit while her mother and uncle were at a nearby rock show (in this case rock as in geology) on Saturday. Always strange and cool to finally meet somebody in person after years online. And it gave me an opportunity to show off my parenting skills, by which I mean having successfully taught a 3yo to hold the horns high and even wave them a little bit. Admittedly her waving doesn't have a lot of really dark menace to it yet, but give her time.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
oops sorry i spelled your name wrong. great to see you!
― scott seward, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Awesome!
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 November 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
This review of Electric Wizard's Black Masses claims it's a complete disappointment compared to Bongripper's Satan Worshipping Doom. Say it ain't so! I'll choose to believe Freeman's review and prepare to be pleased when I finally hear it.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
Both albums are fantastic. Black Masses is on a par with Witchcult Today. The CD sounds ever so much better than the rips going round on 320bitrate mp3s btw
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
Agalloch Marrow of the Spirit streaming now on NPR.org.
http://www.npr.org/2010/11/09/131192147/first-listen-agalloch-marrow-of-the-spirit
― Nate Carson, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago)
the last 5 or 6 mins of Black Lake Nidstång are amazing, esp when the scream comes in with a couple of mins left. Awesome track (luckily Nate didn't ruin it ;) )
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry but I will never listen to a band called Bongripper so EW wins by default.
― you're not là-bas of me (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Man, I love the new Wolvhammer. I don't think I was that impressed with the demos they weregiving away, but the new full length is great.
The new Weapon is one of my favorites for the year, too.Are you reviewing it, Adrien?I think you're the only one who's mentioned it so far.
Also, has there been any mention of Sigh's Scenes from Hell on this thread?I think it's the most fully realized album of the 'new sound' they've been toying with.I thought it was a great album at first listen, but now I'm not so sure. Additionallistens brought diminishing returns, but I really should go back to it and see whatI think now. It's been many months since I've put it on.
― serenchwilen, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago)
Have there ever been any successful, full-blown fusions of metal with salsa or other Latin musics?
I'd love to hear some kind of metal take on the classic New York salsa sound -- Colon and Lavoe, etc.
― serenchwilen, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
dang, that i have never heardi love salsa but salsa and metal?! that could be crazy talk.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago)
you guys are forgetting about Puya!
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, Puya springs immediately to mind. I'm sure there are others; I'll look into it.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously, though, that first Puya record, Fundamental, was actually pretty decent. I believe I even wrote about it for Phil -- Here we go:
PUYAFundamentalMCA, 1999Out of all the bozos that chunky-riffed their way to success in the late 90s, it stands to reason that one of the few bands that did something interesting with the sound would fall to the wayside. Puya had the key distinction of being from Puerto Rico, not the suburbs, and they brought their Latin sense of style and melody to Fundamental. There's still plenty of crunch, don't get me wrong, but the band wasn't afraid to break into funky salsa jams on songs like the title track and "Montate." A melting pot in the best way, this illustrates just how much unrealized potential nu-metal had.
I like to think I've improved as a writer since then. But probably not.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago)
this is really cool:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/11/16/decibel-gets-even-awesomer-introduces-monthly-exclusive-flexi-discs-starting-in-2011/
― original bgm, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
Waiting for Nate to tell me he is coming to Britain with YOB before I commit to a ticket for Minehead.
― ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
flexi thing is so friggin' cool! and totally metal fan catnip. a genius move all around.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, getting excited for these!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
I imagine their subscriber base will get a nice boost from this...
― original bgm, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
That's great if you live in the States. But as I've mentioned here before, I just cancelled my subscription because I wasn't getting my issues. I can't be the only one.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago)
your mailman is a closet techdeath fan.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago)
i could use some new coasters!
― markers, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
I...obtained the new Crystal Viper album purely because of the awesomeness of its cover (scythe-wielding werewolf on horseback in front of a scary castle), but the music is pretty awesome. They're a female-fronted power metal act from Poland, and this is their third studio album. If you like Iron Maiden (and/or Slough Feg) and Doro, you'll like this.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61HLyuEKnNL._SS500_.jpg
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago)
doesn't really beat this for me, but maybe i'm just not a big werewolf guy.
http://www.imusiccn.com/pic/08/27/156138_20100326_175939_37083.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago)
This pic just saddens mehttp://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Paul_Di%27Anno-12783.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
Here he is nowhttp://www.topnews.in/files/images/Paul-DiAnno.preview.jpg
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
What's happened to the Fun Lovin' Criminals? They've gone to seed slightly...
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
I love Decibel's resurrection of the flexidisc. Best idea they've had in a long time.
Oh, and serenchwilen, I did review the new weapon, it should be in next month's dB. But I'll spoil the surprise and say it's the best Canadian metal album of the year. Easily.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago)
Man, now I REALLY need a record player.
Also: already posted that album cover, Phil. Come on, there are enough hilarious pieces of metal cover art out there, no need to repeat. Although I will grant you, it is so awesome that it's worth a second viewing.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, I saw it when you posted it - it stuck in my head until I spotted the record on a blog. Turns out the record's pretty great. Review on BurningAmbulance.com tomorrow.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago)
I remember how geeked my buds & I were in 1984 when that Grim Reaper album came out...that cover was too awesome for words. Still looks great! Too bad the actual record was a bit on the average side.
Meanwhile, the new Cauldron album is ace, but it's been beeped so obnoxiously it doesn't deserve media coverage. I'll just have to download the inevitable leak, I guess.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pressuring Earache's PR dude for a non-beeped promo; if he gives me one (he's done it in the past, for higher-profile releases than friggin' Cauldron), I'll let you know so you can pester him yourself.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:14 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks. Cos this album is really, really good. Cauldron always reminds me of those obscure but killer Canadian metal bands that came out on the Moose Molten Metal series back in the day.
http://img.sharedmusic.net/files/pics/2844/2843605/img_2_th.jpg
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago)
speaking of flexis, i sent away for a free grim reaper flexidisc before the album came out. some sort of label giveaway.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago)
adrien this is for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZezVwU7BPPQ
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago)
I love HIMYM's Canada jokes.
Yes!!! I believe White Wolf was on the flipside of that. RCA was touting both bands at the same time.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I was really psyched to hear the new Cauldron until I saw that it was beeped. I know, cry me a river. Anyway, as far as Crystal Viper go -- I didn't realize that it was a woman! But then again, Sinergy's Kim Goss sounds a whole lot like Bruce Dickinson on a few tracks on Suicide by My Side, so that may just be a function of the genre. AFM sure are dependable for putting out totally derivative but totally enjoyable Euro metal.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I was really psyched to hear the new Cauldron until I saw that it was beeped. I know, cry me a river.
Yeah, it seems trite, but holy crap are these beeps on the Cauldron ever loud and shrill.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago)
"Waiting for Nate to tell me he is coming to Britain with YOB before I commit to a ticket for Minehead."
See you there!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 09:20 (fourteen years ago)
Awesome.
― ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago)
Danzig was the best I've seen him since '92 tonight. He finally has a great band again. And the support (Withered, Toxic Holocaust, Marduk, Possessed/Sadistic Intent) was great.
I can firmly recommend the Blackest of the Black tour this year.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 09:58 (fourteen years ago)
Aldo, I can put you on the guest list for the YOB show... Write me.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 09:59 (fourteen years ago)
Sadistic Intent!? Wow!
― you're not là-bas of me (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago)
Well it was the singer of Possessed (wheelchair-bound) with Sadistic Intent as the back-up band. It was fucking awesome. Made me much more curious about Sadistic Intent than recent Possessed though. They really killed it and would have stolen the show except that Danzig's set list was really impeccable.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 10:48 (fourteen years ago)
Danzig should really learn how to sing INTO the mic though. He was constantly either inaudible or feeding back. Then he'd get mad at the sound crew when most of it was his mistake for trying to jump around and hold the mic in these "cool/metal" angles that having nothing to do with being a professional vocalist.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 10:50 (fourteen years ago)
Sadistic Intent were a pretty great band, back in the day. One of the first demos I ever bought was their "Conflict Within" tape. Them playing with Beccera would be pretty cool.
― you're not là-bas of me (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago)
This may be common knowledge but I'm reading the new 33 1/3 book on Spiderland and it turns out that Will Oldham was briefly a Samhain roadie!
Him and some of the Maurice/Slint guys used to pretend to have cerebral palsy to keep Glenn Danzig entertained.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago)
some of the riffs on the new Atheist are great but I just listened to the first four songs on it & then threw on Unquestionable Presence - the leap in quality when you go from the newer album to the older one is not even funny. they're ok now, once they were among the best who ever played metal.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
fucking A unquestionable presence is all fucking time forever.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
Can't argue with that.
Meanwhile, the new Abysmal Dawn album is very solid. Death metal by dudes who know how to write actual songs, with the usual bludgeoning mix we get from Rutan.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago)
That's good to hear, I was impressed by Programmed to Consume but thought they had room to improve.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago)
hey if any of the dB peeps wants to let me know who handles their distribution, i was considering adding them to the line up at ye old geetar store but cant find the info anywhere?
feel free to hit me up via ilxmail thx
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago)
email mark evans at decibel. um, mark evans @ redflagmedia.com or something like that. i don't have an issue handy.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
email is in the front of the mag.
in fact i have to email him too for my store.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago)
Mark @ decibelmagazine.com
Is the new Abysmal Dawn up? They're a solid group, but I didn't want to take any of the offers I had to review their album because I know Charles Elliott personally, and that could potentially make things awkward next time I run into him.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
thx j3ff
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
Got my unbeeped Cauldron MP3s. This album rules. And the cover art maintains the high standard set by the debut (less nudity, but it might be the same girl).
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 18 November 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago)
i saw liturgy last night. they were good, but they played a lot of new stuff—kinda thrashy/proggy, mostly instrumental, and frankly pretty dull. dampened my enthusiasm for the new album.
― mte, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
Every time I listen to the latest Sword album, I have to revise my opinion. It keeps getting more and more solid with every spin.
At the risk of filling the thread with blasphemy, I've never heard Unquestionable Presence - it was way, way out of my wheelhouse back when it came out and I've just never come across it. But I picked up Jupiter last night and apparently I need to hear UP, like, immediately, because Jupiter really hit me in a good way.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
bongripper
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
Going to a thanksgiving potluck that Cough are playing. Stoked on this.
― Ryan, Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, and serenchwilen, I did review the new weapon, it should be in next month's dB. But I'll spoil the surprise and say it's the best Canadian metal album of the year. Easily.― A. Begrand
Excellent. Looking forward to it!
― serenchwilen, Friday, 19 November 2010 02:43 (fourteen years ago)
Seriously, though, that first Puya record, Fundamental, was actually pretty decent. ― Moving Pixels
I gave them a listen... thanks! They weren't half bad. Definitely onto something.
― serenchwilen, Friday, 19 November 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
I wrote about Ehnahre on BurningAmbulance.com today. Arty stuff, but very good, and they're definitely evolving from album to album.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 19 November 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
speaking of which, love the comments on here:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/10/19/help-axl-figure-out-the-appeal-of-ehnahres-taming-the-cannibals/
― scott seward, Friday, 19 November 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
and you can still listen to the whole album on the deciblog:
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/uncategorized/stream-the-new-ehnahre-before-you-can-pronounce-it/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DecibelMagazine+(Decibel+Magazine)
― scott seward, Friday, 19 November 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago)
phil, you should check out ricardo's label if you haven't already:
http://www.semataproductions.com/releases.html
(not a metal label)
― scott seward, Friday, 19 November 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
OK, I'm now ready to say that I think the new Cradle of Filth album is really good. Whatever it was that made the last one sound to me like it was thrashing in place and never actually moving, this one isn't mired in that.
Also: Jesu, Dethroned. Wow.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 19 November 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the CoF is shockingly good. Coming from a band I find so frustrating, it's a nice surprise. I think whatshername from Abigail Williams does a nice job on the keyboards...she was a rather important part of that band, and she provides the same cascading synths on the CoF record.
Sales-wise, it had such a bad first week I'd be tempted to call it a bomb. It sold about half of what the last album did in its first week. Kind of like the new Dimmu.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 November 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
Disappointing indication of where metal sales are heading? I know neither is really a flash bang classic, but both are pretty popular names and I saw many copies of both at big chain stores so it isn't like they weren't circulating. With the CoF I wonder how much the last album sucking had to do with the lower sales this time around. I loved the synth work on that last Abigail Williams, so I may need to check this out. I wonder how this year's Abigail Williams is without her, haven't heard it.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
i would think that both bands would be on the downward slide by now. they've been around for (seemingly) forever. how many bands get bigger after so many years? i'm sure they would be happy to keep the fans they have. tour. make some money. buy more tarantulas or whatever they spend their money on.
― scott seward, Friday, 19 November 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
So are you two actually recommending that I listen to this thing, or would you not go that far?
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 19 November 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
I think scott has a valid point regarding CoF, but I felt like Dimmu got a decent mainstream bump with the positive buzz surrounding In Sorte Diaboli.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe that kind of "cartoon" metal is on the decline as their audience ages and the younger kids are getting into something else like the thrash revival or deathcore?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'd bet most bands that sold a decent amount 5 or 10 years ago are on the decline except the mega bands. Who are the hot new bands selling loads? (not the critic/hip faves)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
That's a good question, I'm not even sure. Judging by merch on display at Hot Topic its the crunkcore shit and metalcore (stuff like Escape the Fate and whatever) that is big with the kids, but I don't feel like that stuff is putting up stellar number either.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
Oh man, I know I used to rant about the ubiquitousness of metalcore all the time, but I really hoped that shit had died. I suppose deathcore aka melodic metalcore mixed with death metal means it didn't die, just mutated into something worse.
To think there was a time when metalcore was seen as an obvious good thing. Most of the hydrahead bands and converge will deny they were ever that im sure.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, its pretty much a dirty word like "emo" at this point.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 November 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago)
emocore was always a derogatory term though, at least it was coined in that way.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago)
metalcore is like skapunk. The less said about both the better.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 19 November 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
I think Dimmu just got too big for their britches. They're the most popular act on the Nuclear Blast roster, and it feels like they thought they could get away with anything.
And yeah, amateur hour stuff like A7X and Escape the Fate is really starting to dominate as far as mainstream metal goes. It seems every week there's some goofy band with funny hair and limp riffs that I've never heard of debuting in the top 40. It's depressing.
Give it a shot. Dani is as logorrheic as ever, but his screech isn't as silly this time. Plus the riffs actually deliver this time. Pretty darn good album.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago)
Both the Cradle of Filth and Abigail Williams records are totally worth listening to. I think they made the right trade there.
Also, metalcore may have run itself into the ground pretty hard, but there were some pretty great bands that came out of that scene, and it was WORLDS better than nu-metal. WORLDS.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago)
Don't forget Five Finger Death Punch!
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago)
And Asking Alexandria, they're going to blow up in 2011.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago)
Metaphorically, though literally would be better.
Black Veil Brides
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, now I'm just depressing myself.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
Please tell me about the good metalcore you refer too (not hydrahead bands or converge stuff that I know & like)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago)
to
I mean, you aren't going to like any of them, but off the top of my head: Shadows Fall, Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Beyond the Embrace, In This Moment, Heaven Shall Burn.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 19 November 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
Looks like you were right first time
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 19 November 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
The only one I like on that list is In This Moment, but I have a few more recommendations: Job For A Cowboy, The Acacia Strain, Chelsea Grin, Waking the Cadaver, and The Showdown (Blood in the Gears is a really slept-on album).
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago)
job for the cowboy are one of the worst bands i've ever heard since waking the cadaver funnily enough
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago)
Heaven Shall Burn is a very good band, I always liked them. Their new CD is arguably their best one to date
― A. Begrand, Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
I don't have HSB on this laptop - I'll have to dig that one up.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago)
Are we talking about metalcore or deathcore? I mostly dislike deathcore, but that's probably because I prefer melodic death metal to brutal death. Also, recommending any of these bands to Pfunk/Herman/Algerian Goalkeeper is pretty much a waste of time. He doesn't like thrash or death or (as far as I know) hardcore, to begin with, so it seems unlikely that he'd be a very big fan of their derivatives.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago)
I can't keep track of people's display names. I thought AG might be an entirely new poster.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 20 November 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago)
Might not be him, I just assumed it was because of the posting style.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
pretty sure its him
― markers, Saturday, 20 November 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, Puya springs immediately to mind. I'm sure there are others; I'll look into it.― that's not funny. (unperson)
Yeah, if you come across anything else, please post about it.I've been searching around with no luck so far.
― serenchwilen, Saturday, 20 November 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)
Here are some thoughts on the still unreleased Hell albumthat I mentioned up thread.
http://isen-torr.blogspot.com/2010/08/hell-human-remains-2010.html
Hell posted this on their myspace blog.
Any thoughts or interest from anybody here?Perhaps this is already old news to some.
― serenchwilen, Saturday, 20 November 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
Any thoughts or interest from anybody here?
"wow" is my main thought - read a big breakdown on this band in Snakepit not long ago. extremely interested in the ongoing history-work getting done about this era of metal -- I'll be buying that when it's ready.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 20 November 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone heard the new Intronaut?
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 21 November 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago)
I have. I'm not a fan, but others seem to like it.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 21 November 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
I think I'm just really over harsh/death vocals in music that doesn't require it. Intronaut's music is Tool-ish enough that they could offer clean vocals, and I think if they did, their music would be improved immeasurably. (I also like Mastodon more when they try to really sing.)
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 21 November 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
The new one does have clean vocals!
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Sunday, 21 November 2010 03:02 (fourteen years ago)
Not enough of the time.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 21 November 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
I actually can't really argue with your point, though -- I mean, if the song is better served by clean singing than growling, there should be clean singing. I feel like a lot of bands are afraid of the cred police, or accusations that they've moved away from their style or gone "mainstream."
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Sunday, 21 November 2010 03:58 (fourteen years ago)
I actually agree with you Phil, I feel like cleaner vocals would really help them and I was kind of hoping to hear more of it on the new one. They really impressed me live though.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 21 November 2010 03:58 (fourteen years ago)
Anybody here a fan of Japanese death metal band Defiled? I've never heard of them and they're hitting me up about booking. Curious if there's anything special about them that I should know.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 November 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago)
They don't sound very special.
― Nate Carson, Monday, 22 November 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago)
the good metalcore is like the stuff from the 90s when it was called metallic hardcore - I guess some folks would say that it's essentially a different thing but there are standout branches on the subgenre family tree, eg Overcast turned into Shadows Fall and Killswitch
― cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Monday, 22 November 2010 07:52 (fourteen years ago)
I am big fan of the crossover thrash and thrashcore stuff more-so than standard metalcore. Like D.R.I., What Happens Next, Vorhees, etc. I don't know if His Hero is Gone fits in with that or what you'd call them but they're pretty great IMO.
I have a big special place in my heart for Biohazard, though, mainly cause of adolescent nostalgia. I think people tend to categorize them as early nu-metal but I think they are pretty solidly metalcore, at least in pedigree.
― Grim Viceroy Tales: Hit the Trail… to Flavor! (Viceroy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
I really liked Deadguy and Bloodlet. Those were seminal metalcore bands for me that predated Converge. I guess I like my metalcore to still have an artistic edge.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
okay i know what i want for christmas you guys. if everyone pitches in you should be able to swing it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/EYEHATEGOD-lot-3-test-press-DOOM-SLUDGE-/120648913465?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1c173c5239
― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago)
a) these are being sold by a member of EHG who is brokeb) these were bought once upon a time from a member of EHG who is brokec) all of the above
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago)
d) drugs
― The other side has "Super Honky" written in ink. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago)
So no doubt everyone's seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjI7gT1FvI&feature=player_embedded
They missed an obvious 'Welcome to the realm of Santa' joke...
You know Dasher and DancerAnd Prancer and Vixen,Comet and CupidAnd Donner and Burzum.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago)
Where does one hear Bongripper? Can one buy their MP3s online?
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago)
I don't want to miss out like I did with Gay Witch Abortion you see.
i saw bongripper recently as an opener for someone else (like 3 someone elses really). they were pretty good but i don't remember anything about their show at all.
i really popped in here to say new agalloch SO GOOD -- i'm so proud to sort of internet-know someone who was involved with making it. if i were 16 i would be rhapso-yapping on youtube about it, but i'm not.
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
In preparation for my BurningAmbulance.com review of the Ghost CD, I went back and revisited The Devil's Blood's The Time of No Time Evermore. At its absolute most aggressive, that record sounds like '70s Heart. And the Ghost disc reminds me of Blue Öyster Cult.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
Man, this Bongripper album is awesome. Which of their other albums are good? I see they've had plenty out.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
oh man I kinda want that Dopesick test press but no way.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
yes all bongripper is great but some stuff is experimental drone (Heroin (i have that ltd set with the drug kit) but the crushing doom material is awesome.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago)
man, I want to give ghost a chance but I kind of hate them because I keep getting tricked into thinking there's a new album by the japanese ghost every time I read about em.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ OTM
― Grim Viceroy Tales: Hit the Trail… to Flavor! (Viceroy), Thursday, 25 November 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
I'm still not tired of the Ghost (SWE) album. I'm actually surprised it's getting so much acclaim, but I'm glad it is.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago)
I don't get it at all. But I didn't get the Devil's Blood at first, so give me six months.
― The other side has "Super Honky" written in ink. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 November 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago)
fucking A
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
also, if xhukx ever checks in here: check out Don Juan Matus. Peruvian psych/doom on the milder end of both sides of that slash, i.e., the guitar's overdrive but not too distorted, it's very melodic, the vocals are sung not bellowed...really, if I told you their 2010 album Mas Alla Del Sol Poniente was some excavated mid-seventies treasure, you'd wonder how they got it to sound so full & clean but you'd believe this band was from back when. Beautiful guitar work, excursions into dub...not perfect (I kinda hate the vocals, but I often have that problem with milder doom), but pretty damn good.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago)
Have you heard Maligno, aero?
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 03:39 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't! I've been pretty much all death metal lately but this DJM took me by surprise.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago)
got this from a link on the deciblog:
1. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit2. Watain - Lawless Darkness3. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones4. Dawnbringer - Nucleus5. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini6. Torche - Songs for Singles7. Ludicra - The Tenant8. Thou - Summit9. Nails - Unsilent Death10. The Austerity Program - Backsliders and Apostates Will Burn11. Castevet - Mounds of Ash12. Immolation - Majesty and Decay13. Sailors With Wax Wings - Sailors With Wax Wings14. Coliseum - House With a Curse15. Horseback - The Invisible Mountain16. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow17. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine18. Burzum - Belus19. Atheist - Jupiter20. Electric Wizard - Black Masses21. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus22. Kvelertak - Kvelertak23. Integrity - The Blackest Curse24. Ghost - Opus Eponymous25. Withered - Dualitas26. Pivixki - Gravissima27. Fear Factory - Mechanize28. Unearthly Trance - V29. Christian Mistress - Agony & Opium30. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II31. Deftones - Diamond Eyes32. Father Befouled - Morbid Destitution of Covenant33. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood34. Early Graves - Goner35. Intronaut - Valley of Smoke36. Decrepit Birth - Polarity37. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis38. Hail of Bullets - On Divine Winds39. Lantlos - .Neon40. Darkthrone - Circle the Wagons
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago)
no Cathedral love?
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, having that Darkthrone record but not Cathedral is kind of like criminal insanity. Some good shit on there though.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
A terrible list, wrong in nearly every way.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
It has The Wizard. It has The Body. It has High On Fire. It has Nachtmystium. It has Kylesa. It has Sailors With Wax Wings... it's not that bad.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
man I haven't even heard a lot of that. I have become the metal fan who would rather listen to old-school death & proto-BM than know what's going on in the genre.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
There are lots of good albums on the list, but almost without exception they're way lower than they should be, buried under boring unlistenable shit.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
unperson you're getting crankier by the day!
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
hey, at least Burzum didn't crack the top ten (a mistake, imo), Phil.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Nachtmystium and Ghost should have placed much higher tho, tru.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
some excellent records on that list
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
3. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones4. Dawnbringer - Nucleus7. Ludicra - The Tenant12. Immolation - Majesty and Decay16. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow17. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine20. Electric Wizard - Black Masses21. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus24. Ghost - Opus Eponymous27. Fear Factory - Mechanize29. Christian Mistress - Agony & Opium30. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II31. Deftones - Diamond Eyes36. Decrepit Birth - Polarity38. Hail of Bullets - On Divine Winds
Those are the 15 albums on the list I actually like. I wouldn't consider all of them for my own year-end list. There were some close calls - the Father Befouled is okay, but I think it's only on the Decibel list because Incantation didn't make a record this year, and frankly Incantation should be charging them with copyright infringement; and the Dillinger album seemed okay at the time but I haven't listened to it since filing my review, and that's not a good sign.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
in 2011 news the music on the new Owen Hart is kicking my ass
the vocals are fucking boring. have said this before. a whole generation of decent metal bands are fucking up by thinking that singing like the dude from Brokencyde is somehow intense or brutal or w/e. I would rather listen to the most generic death gurgle in the world than another fuckin note of BLEEEOWWW BLEOWWWW! oh yes dude you are feelin it I totally believe you! fucking whatever. you guys learn to play this awesome and then can't come up with a more original vocal look than this, it's a crying fucking shame. because this is an outstanding band fully knocked down to "ok & you'll forget you like them by this time next week" because of this.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
These are the one's on that list I like:
1. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit3. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones7. Ludicra - The Tenant16. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow20. Electric Wizard - Black Masses22. Kvelertak - Kvelertak29. Christian Mistress - Agony & Opium33. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood39. Lantlos - .Neon
Though I think the Cathedral record is better than all of them.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 November 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
100% with aero on the vocals thing. He doesn't have to review as many screamo/metalcore albums as I do, I don't think, so I'm probably even sicker of the current "extreem" vocal sound than he is. No wonder I listen to so much power/trad metal in my spare time these days.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
Weirdly, I wrote that & then found myself listening to the new Graf Orlock EP. It's screaming for sure, but it's dynamic, plus the actual hardcore link is audible & clear...so it works for me! (it doesn't hurt that Graf Orlock is basically a freestanding awesome riff factory & play like they're starving to fucking death.) but with SO much of the screaming metalcore style, there are ZERO dynamics. there's two levels of scream, and both of them sound like children who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. which is why I am dubbing that style Bad Birthdaycore.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
Only 11 albums I voted for made the dB list...there's not a lot here I agree with. Watain's far too high, Thou is overrated, and what the hell's a Pivixki???
The most heinous exclusion has to be Maiden. And Alcest. Overall it's a pretty disheartening list in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Maiden and Cathedral are grievous omissions, but so's Negura Bunget IMO.
By the way, the new Motörhead disc is up on loadown.org. Just FYI.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 25 November 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago)
no maiden on a TOP 40 year end list is mind boggling!
no cathedral is less surprising. love it personally but it's a bit divisive, no?
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
bought my watain tix today
― the tune is space, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
even cathedral fans are split on it. It's certainly nowhere as good as some people think on here.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago)
I still really enjoy the Cathedral album. It didn't crack my top 20 unfortunately...I had to leave out a LOT of great albums this year.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
I think the cathedral album is pretty stellar myself. really jam-packed with ideas and I just love the SOUND of it.
have played it for a few folks IRL and the folks who already liked cathedral were way into it but I couldn't sell it to people who weren't already familiar.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
watain sux imo
what's the new graf orlock? a little gimmicky but it is a good gimmick and I'm a sucker for a well-executed grind/hardcore hybrid. like those guys.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 November 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
it's called DOOMBOX. a little less chaotic than that crazy one with the cardboard bug housing, but to me that's a plus -- I'm pretty through with as-crazy-as-we-can-get stuff. the riffs on this one are fucking AWESOME and yeah the hardcore pedigree is shining through. fuckin exellent release, due in January I guess.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
Well, that does explain why I was only assigned blurbs for two records this year... they were the only ones outside of the top 10 that I voted for (and I only voted for 4 out of there).
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
Also, that's not a bug, Aero, that's a facehugger -- haven't you seen Alien?!
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha.
that sounds awesome, aero. looking forward to it.
― original bgm, Thursday, 25 November 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
1. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit2. Watain - Lawless Darkness3. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones5. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini6. Torche - Songs for Singles7. Ludicra - The Tenant8. Thou - Summit16. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow17. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine18. Burzum - Belus19. Atheist - Jupiter20. Electric Wizard - Black Masses28. Unearthly Trance - V30. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II32. Father Befouled - Morbid Destitution of Covenant37. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis
I will rep for all of these, Nachtmystium is way low though. And, as much as I love the Torche, that one is a bit too high.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the Torche us merely a good stopgap EP and nothing more. Certainly not in the same league as the two albums.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
I thought that Nachtmystium was way too low, but then, it was my album of the year -- so really, any position outside of the top 10 would have been too low.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago)
Fear Factory is kind of glaring to me -- good album, definitely a big step up, but I don't know about top 40 of the year. I hadn't even come close to getting promos for a lot of the stuff that made it by the time we had to submit our lists, too. In fact, I just received Deathspell Omega yesterday. Still haven't heard the Agalloch (don't suppose you could help me out there, Nate?).
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
I know there's somebody here who works closely with Agalloch & all love, respect, etc., but when Agalloch is winning metal polls & getting generally repped for, that tells me I am way way way out of the current.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
They can't all be Prostitute Disfigurement, Aerosmith!
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
Fear Factory making the top 40 must be some generational thing, people nostalgic for that 90s era connecting with it. I was too old in the mid-90s for that band to have any impact on me whatsoever. The album is a step up from their recent mediocre records, but great it's not.
I'm actually surprised to see Agalloch get album of the year, I've been huge into it of course but I wasn't too sure what others would think. Great choice in the end...I had it at #5 on my dB ballot in early October, and when I voted again for other mags a couple weeks later it had jumped to an easy, obvious #1.
And Jeff, I didn't get any blurb assignments! I was baffled until I saw just how little in common my ballot had with the final list.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
I love Fear Factory, but as far as legacy records go, there were a lot better (Cathedral, Iron Maiden, Armored Saint, Exodus, and Rotting Christ all come to mind). I mean, the list isn't a bad one, just some really surprising omissions and inclusions(where's Yakuza, for example?). Decibel lists are always like that, though -- there's such a wide variety of taste in the writers that the aggregate lists always feel a little schizophrenic.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
I know J3ff, like I dig Axoma Ethica Odini as much as the next guy...I just 100% don't get how Agalloch is anything but sort of generic gloom devoid of inspiration. Just doesn't engage me at all.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago)
Fear Factory making the top 40 must be some generational thing, people nostalgic for that 90s era connecting with it.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago)
I sill like Belus, it still holds up well. And oh man, I forgot about Rotting Christ. What an album Aealo is.
Yeah, if there's one great thing dB has, it's diversity (though hardcore inclusions always make this old-school headbanger cringe just a little!). To see traditional metal do well in the form of Dawnbringer and Christian Mistress made me smile.
If there's one thing that might entice Agalloch skeptics it's that the new CD is a lot more varied than their past work.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago)
I just 100% don't get how Agalloch is anything but sort of generic gloom devoid of inspiration.
New Arckanum slips back to Antikosmos level of solid, autopilot Arckanum. Last years ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ really hit it out of the park for some reason, been revisiting that one over the past month and as far as proper asskicking Black METAL goes that record shits on pretty much everything else out there from the last three, four years.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 25 November 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
holy shit, i forgot all about the Rotting Christ, too. that one's definitely top ten for me.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 25 November 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago)
finally got hipped to the body--man that's a cool album.
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Friday, 26 November 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
u mad doggie!
― Grim Viceroy Tales: Hit the Trail… to Flavor! (Viceroy), Friday, 26 November 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
Agalloch does basically nothing for me. And Axioma Ethica Odini is such a dropoff after Vertebrae that it's almost shocking.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
I agree it's not as good, I still dig it -- I don't know, when a band's been kicking ass as long as Enslaved they get to mellow out with a little axioma ethica odini once in a while.
seriously thought you guys the damn ares kingdom album. I am rocking it hard tonight, it's so. fucking. great. belongs on any metal year-end top ten in my opinion & it's in my overall top ten too.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago)
Well, I only like 8 of those 40, but 4 of them are in the top 7, so that's something. And if anybody gives me crap when I put HIM on my metal list, I'm referring them to the inclusion of Pivixki here.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 26 November 2010 04:40 (fourteen years ago)
Does anyone even know what the heck that Pivixki is? Something tells me it's some kind of grindcore silliness.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 November 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago)
Here's the description from Amazon:
The duo known as PIVIXKI are a unique combination of two distinct talents: two hard-working veterans of the Melbourne (and indeed international) music scene, one still in his mid 20s, the other having just scraped the 30-year mark. Multi-instrumentalist, and keyboard player within the band, Anthony Pateras, has a CV big enough to fll three press releases. Working within the musical realms of modern composition, improvisation, electronics, avant-rock and noise, he's composed for major orchestras, played with a multitude of collaborators (including the likes of Oren Ambarchi, Christian Fennesz, Tony Buck, Han Bennink, Dave Brown and violin virtuoso Richard Tognetti), performed in everything from seedy dives to concert halls the world over, released his music on a multitude of labels (including two acclaimed CDs on John Zorn's Tzadik imprint) and is currently the composer-in-residence at the Australian National Academy Of Music. Max Kohane, just 26, has been playing in bands since he was 12 and touring since he was 16. He turned 18 whilst on a three-month tour of Europe. He's infamous for his dynamic, intensely fast and technical drumming style and has earned a rep as perhaps the best skin-hitter in Australia's hardcore punk scene. He's played in the likes of Far Left Limit, George W. Bush, Terra Firma, Cut Sick, grind kings Agents Of Abhorrence and crust-punkers ABC Weapons. The beauty of Pivixki lies in the clash of these two musical cultures, though the willing experimentation of Pateras and Kohane has seen ft that there is no clash at all. Pivixki's debut, Gravissima, recorded by US ex-patriate Casey Rice, sees an amazing melding of sensibilities. Nominally a piano/drums duo, the band expands their sound with percussive fourishes and the addition of organ and electronic keyboards into the mix. Some of the songs are short, fast and cut to the point; others organically develop over several minutes like soundtrack pieces, occasionally feeding through the creepy, picturesque qualities of Italy's horror-music legends Goblin, or the seething musical soundscapes of France's avant-prog troupe, Magma. Most of all, the album works as a cohesive piece of music, each track making a perfect segueway for the next. If you can imagine a perfect melting pot made up of the likes of Conlon Nancarrow, Iannis Xenakis, Cecil Taylor and the insane grind trio Discordance Axis, it might sound a little like Pivixki. Their unique instrumentation is never used as a mere gimmick or prop: it's simply a set-up which best suits their mode of expression.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 04:46 (fourteen years ago)
Cecil Taylor and the insane grind trio Discordance Axis
Okay, that's actually kind of intriguing.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 November 2010 05:05 (fourteen years ago)
Not really sure how that group qualifies for the list and Black Mountain and Maserati don't, but oh well.
Aero -- I actually am on the same page regarding "generic gloom" as you. When I was listening through a bunch of stuff while compiling my top 20, there was just so much stuff that got good reviews that I listened to 30 seconds of and went "great, more atmospheric black metal, next." Agalloch definitely don't fall into that category for me, though.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 26 November 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago)
Hell, I voted for Ratt.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 November 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago)
Jeff, yes email and I'll hook you up.
As for me, Wolvserpent is my album of the year. I love the new Enslaved and don't see it as any sort of quality drop from Vertebrae, and certainly don't find it to be less energetic. Also, saw them live on Tuesday with Demon Burger and Enslaved's set was FAR more fiery than when they support Opeth.
Overall, it's very interesting to contrast this list with Terrorizer's.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 06:51 (fourteen years ago)
btw, i <3 u guys to pieces. don't ever change.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 26 November 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago)
The new Motorhead is very satisfying (thanks Phil). Some ace tracks on there...love "Born to Lose".
(I think the Terrorizer list is stronger)
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 November 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago)
Post the list then!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 November 2010 11:42 (fourteen years ago)
the list is off limits for now but I think I prefer it pound for pound too, also it looks like my votes might have actually counted for something, which I seem to have a perpetual inability to do w/ polls like these
― cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 November 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago)
oh and dunno if any UK dudes saw Black Breath on their tour but I hosted them last night and they owned - super nice guys, great night all round tbh
― cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 November 2010 12:15 (fourteen years ago)
How do people feel about (the band) Child Abuse? Just heard them for the first time today. Quite taken with them...
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 26 November 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
Are they from Cornwall?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 November 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago)
Here are my thoughts on the Decibel list, including 20 albums I think should have been included.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
AG: V. good, I initially presumed they must have either been from my old manor St Helens or the Pitcairn Islands but they're from America apparently.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 26 November 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
man I try not engage Phil on his La Mancha anti-Decibel stuff but...
So here, in alphabetical order, are 20 albums Decibel didn't think were worthy of year-end consideration, the absence of many of which (Iron Maiden? HELLO?!?) throws their whole modus operandi and worldview into question, frankly.
It's a poll. Of a lot of writers. If the modus operandi being thrown into question is "polling one's writers," OK, cool enough, I don't submit year-end ballots for exactly this reason, but somehow I think that's not the objection here.
The assertion of a "worldview" gleaned from a poll of writers as disparate as Jeanne Fury & Jeff Treppel & Adem Tepedelen & Liz Brenner as is, frankly, laughable. My favorite albums aren't on the list, either; boo hoo.
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
as
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
when will i stop being amazed that ppl value year end lists as anything other than a consumers guide
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Presenting the poll results as a flat list encourages readers to treat it like a single editorial construct (like Phil does in his response). Put it online, with vote-counts and links to the actual ballots, so that people can actually poke around in it and see who said what, and it would be both more understandable and more useful.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 26 November 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
I don't have the issue to hand. Is the fact that it's a poll not made plain in an intro graf?
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
Exactly what Glenn said. As someone who compiled year-end lists from writers' balloting, once the list becomes a list, it ceases to be the sum of its parts and becomes an institutional verdict...and should be critiqued as such. The Voice's approach, where each writer's individual ballot is viewable online, is immensely preferable.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
I've heard very good things about NOMEANSNO and Black Breath gigs this week. Gutted to have missed both of these shows due to influenza. A friend who went to see NMN for the first time in London last night drove up to Leeds to see them again today such was the impression they made upon him.
Looking forward to seeing them at ATP.
I get what you're saying Aerosmith - and speaking logically you're entirely correct - but it is fucking insane that Iron Maiden's joint best album in two decades isn't on the end of year list of a mainstream and well respected metal mag... to the extent that it's comment worthy and you can't really blame people for throwing their hands up in disgust.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Of course, as aero hints, I do just like poking at Decibel.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
(If only there were some software in the world that made it easy to publish ballots and tabulations and whatnot, all linked up together with, like, sorting and searching and stuff...)
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 26 November 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.bnet.com/blogs/horse-race.jpg
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
Horse number one has no legs.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 26 November 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
Explains why he has a long face.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
xp every joke I had in response to that was completely tasteless
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
so what are the really horrible albums on the decibel list? are there any? i've heard, like, two of them. i'm all about the agalloch and body albums. though i still have to buy a real copy of the agalloch. only listened to a supersecret download and that was months ago. i never would have heard the body album if they hadn't played at my store. cuz i bought one from them.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
i still need to hear the triptykon album too. need to buy it.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
The ones that I think are either flat-out terrible, or just undeserving of their spots, are Agalloch (boring boring boring), Watain (I hate this band), Enslaved (boring boring boring - deserves a spot on the list, but in the bottom 10), Torche (sub-QOTSA tripe), The Austerity Program (fuck this band), Burzum (fuck this guy, plus the Xasthur album was way better), Father Befouled (can't believe Incantation hasn't cease-and-desisted this band out of existence), Early Graves (sorry that dude got killed, but the debut was much better), and Darkthrone (who I've just never liked, in any of their incarnations).
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 26 November 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
Enslaved should be in the top spot every year they release an album for the same reason you rep for Maiden. Except that Enslaved is more consistent than Maiden and has released more great albums at this point.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
in before nuclear apolocalpyse in response to nate's post
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 November 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)
agalloch don't bore me at all. and i've heard lots of boring music. i can dig people not liking them though. plenty of stuff i don't like out there. but ashes is seriously, like, one of the few modern records that i have played a hundred times. i fell hard for that thing.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago)
"and Darkthrone (who I've just never liked, in any of their incarnations)."
can't even really argue with this kinda statement! i dunno, people like different stuff.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
And without getting myself in any trouble by commenting on it's quality, i'd suggest that Agalloch's high placement on the DB list is mostly due to great anticipation and timing of release in close proximity to year-end polls. Which is much more a Profound Lore chess move than it is the band's. Agalloch could not care less about these polls. They operate in a bubble and that also seems to score points with a lot of folks.
I can also reveal that it placed much lower on the Terroizer list, placing far below Christian Mistress and narrowly beating Ludicra. I wonder about European tastes vs American...
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago)
The only Darkthrone I've ever loved is Soulside Journey which I bought on vinyl for $5 in 1994 from Earl Root. It stands up because there are songs, musicianship, and production value. Never got why they abandoned those things and quit gigging live...
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
awwww rip earl :(
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 26 November 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
Eh? Panzerfaust is ORESOME.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 26 November 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
darn it, Phil. and here i was hoping you would've done the bitching about the "lame" dB album choices on yer blog piece instead of on ilm. oh well.
but seriously, if we can't moan, bitch, and/or whine over some rock rag's goofy year-end poll results... well, we may as well wrap shit up and head on home.
(also: payolla mongers should note that Iron Maiden did get a dB cover this year, and still didn't make the year-end cut. hmmm...)
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 26 November 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
cmon nate, I love enslaved too, but iron maiden are an amazingly consistent band!
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago)
but I don't even hate the blaze records, so it's entirely possible that I just have no taste
and darkthrone abandoned all the things you listed due to an unwavering dedication to trance-inducing riffs. fine by me, tbh.
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago)
also, siegbran is dead-on about that arckanum album. (ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ) was tipped by him evangelizing in another thread and it does indeed kill.
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
aaaaaaand immortal/absu tickets for the NY show are $52! fukkin' expensive but I'll still prob go.
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
The only Enslaved misstep was ISA. Maiden have blown it at least 5 times...
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago)
maiden have also been around since the mid-seventies!
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago)
I won't defend everything they've done but they have a huge back catalog and much of it is quite good. including their latest.
― original bgm, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago)
JD, we need to make up for me missing you at SSonic by meeting up at ATP. I will propose something once the schedule gets published?
― ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Friday, 26 November 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
Agalloch boring, Phil? Wow, I'm just the opposite, I find the new one thrilling, life-affirming practically.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 26 November 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
Aesop on drums really helps. Just as with Ludicra, he gives them some swing. I wouldn't have guessed they needed it but it really keeps everything moving quite nicely. I do think it's more of a grower than Ashes was; I'm enjoying it more and more each time through.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 26 November 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago)
^exactly my belated reaction.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 26 November 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago)
I think maybe Phil is more interested in the visceral experience of music than the ceremonial, but perhaps I'm just projecting. I intuit that drinking mead & listening to Agalloch by candlelight triggers his built-in bullshit alarm. For better or for worse.
@ Alan--Maiden was at their best in the 70s!
― Nate Carson, Friday, 26 November 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago)
I've heard very good things about NOMEANSNO
I didn't go to the gig this week but I saw them last year and they were AWESOME.
Unfortunately this year I'm going to Bowlie 2 so I won't get to see them at ATP.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 26 November 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago)
Nomeansno is one of the best live bands out there. Period. Go see them any chance you get.
I'm already making plans to catch 3-4 NW shows next time they do the OR/WA tour circuit. They always hit a lot of small towns and this is a band I'm determined to follow next chance I get.
May even see them at ATP if the flights work out!
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 27 November 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago)
Aldo: For sure. Drop me a line a few days beforehand.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Saturday, 27 November 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago)
I think maybe Phil is more interested in the visceral experience of music than the ceremonial
This is true, but only when it comes to metal. Various types of music serve different purposes for me. Metal is for when I'm out for a walk, or have work to do. When I'm in that ritualistic/meditative frame of mind, I gravitate toward classical - Beethoven string quartets, or Morton Feldman if I've got a couple of hours free. When I feel like really focused listening, isolating one instrument out of the mix and really examining how the music comes together, I go for prog or jazz.
But I think my biggest problem with Agalloch is that they're black metal. And black metal just has too many qualities I don't like - it takes a lot for a black metal band to win me over. I hate the drumming, for example. It's just way too unrelieved and monotonous. The guitars are almost as bad - there's no release, just endless hypnotically cycling riffs. I need catharsis, and black metal doesn't provide it. Plus, the vocals suck. (Not just in Agalloch, but in black metal as a whole.)
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
i don't even think of agalloch as a black metal band.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:32 (fourteen years ago)
and agalloch are all about catharsis and release for me!
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago)
All I can hear is the black metal stuff when I listen to them. The folky bullshit that their fans grab onto seems like the merest frippery.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago)
i guess i would call them blackened doom. or folky black doom. or something. doom black folk. whatever. they have really pretty clean vocals too.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago)
so wait you don't actually hear the acoustic stuff when its playing? i don't get it. i mean some songs are half acoustic and half electric. its not like a flourish or an acoustic intro or something.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
I wasn't an Agalloch fan before this, but I like Marrow of the Spirit a lot, too. I have low tolerance for black metal in which the drumming or vocals (it's usually one of those) drain the music of rhythm or dynamism, but Agalloch doesn't seem to me to be doing that.
I like the Enslaved a lot, too, and would be happy to see either of those on anybody's 2010 list. Whether they'll make mine, I'm not sure yet. It's been a really good year.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 27 November 2010 03:19 (fourteen years ago)
The only term I've ever known them to get behind is "Dark Metal." They certainly don't consider themselves to be black metal. I think they draw influence from a lot of black metal, but also classical, folk, industrial, etc. John is the biggest fan I know of Rush Power Windows.
But I would never tell Phil he needs to like/understand Agalloch better. Music is so subjective. And he hears more of it than most people ever will.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 27 November 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago)
One thing I will say though: I think this is the best production/capture of vocals on any Agalloch record. I'm really impressed with how John's voice sounds on this one.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 27 November 2010 03:22 (fourteen years ago)
i would tell phil to try a little harder! but in a nice way.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago)
ok honestly his desc. of agalloch in no way matches my experience of listening to that band.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 November 2010 04:46 (fourteen years ago)
But I think my biggest problem with Agalloch is that they're black metal.
i mean i don't have a problem with saying that this is just flat out wrong
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 November 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago)
I think this guy figured out the best time and place to listen to Agalloch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBQsp5zH798
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 27 November 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago)
anyway, speaking of black metal, i'm really enjoying the Inquisition album that Hells Headbangers sent me. haven't listened to the Black Witchery and Grave Desecrator albums yet.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
basically throwing that out there for siegbran and aerosmith and gott punch. dunno if anyone else here would dig it. maybe though. you never know.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago)
noted!
― Siegbran, Saturday, 27 November 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
the Black Witchery album is cool too. you know, your standard brootal black/death stuff, but done well. "recommended for maniacs of Blasphemy, Archgoat, Reveng."
have i ever heard Reveng? do i even know who Reveng are?
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
the Grave Desecrator album (they are from Brazil and sound like they are from Brazil) is recommended for diehards of: Vulcano, early Sepultura, Sarcofago, and early Mystifier.
i know the name Vulcano (from Brazil also), but i don't think i've ever heard them.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
Mystifier box set that nuclear war now put out was hot. if you had a hundred bucks to blow on south american insanity it was a good deal. or whatever it cost. probably more.
http://www.nwnprod.com/?p=220
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
Scott have you heard Mental Horror?
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 27 November 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
i...don't...think...so. but maybe. you know, sometimes i'll go on a myspace or youtube journey around the world and i don't always remember what i hear. let's put it this way, if i have heard them it wasn't an entire cd. i'll check them out online. there's lots of good brasilian stuff i haven't heard.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
I'd just like to say that nothing Agalloch has done has affected me on the level that the White E.P. did. Something about that album stirs really strong emotions. Anyone who doesn't like them because of the raspy vocals and metal leanings should try it out. So far I think their new album is fine, but it hasn't blown me away yet. (haven't had a lot of time to listen deeply to anything for a while)
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Saturday, 27 November 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
I know everybody hates retro thrash, but the new Fueled By Fire album Plunging Into Darkness is really, really good. They got the big push from Metal Blade on their debut despite being musically second-tier, but Metal Blade dropped 'em, and they've been through a bunch of membership upheaval since then, and gotten much, much better in the process. This disc is really solid, and they're self-releasing it through their MySpace page while they try and convince a label to sign them. I hope they get another deal.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 02:03 (fourteen years ago)
I don't. I mean I like Evile and Municipal Waste well enough.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Sunday, 28 November 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
Here are the 135 albums from which I will eventually pull my Top 20 of 2010.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 29 November 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
Phil's Agalloch skepticism prompted me to listed to Marrow of the Spirit more over the weekend, and the more I play it, the better I like it. Which makes me suspect Nate and Phil of engaging in a sneaky conspiracy. So who wants to pretend to dislike Agrypnie so we can talk about that some more?
I'm really liking this newish form of what I guess feels like pagan metal to me, whether it's what that term was invented for or not: atmospheric black metal laced with tendrils of folk melody and natural/acoustic/elegiac sounds. I mean the thing nestled in the space described by, say, Celestiial, Blood of the Black Owl, Alcest, Agrypnie, Murmuüre, Naglfar, Nechochwen, Negură Bunget, Wolves in the Throne Room and Xasthur. Is it an evolution of Black Metal or a derivation from it? Dunno. But I'm finding it really involving and exciting.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
i wrote a gripping essay on folk metal. coming to a bookstore near you. sooner or later. via duke university press.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
Five Reasons System Of A Down Should Cancel Their Reunion Tour
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 29 November 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
Scott, what's the title of the book with your folk metal essay?
― Brad C., Monday, 29 November 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago)
The only thing more predictable than Phil Freeman saying something inflammatory about Decibel is Phil Freeman using Decibel content as fodder for the lazy listicles on his MSN blog. C'mon, man, you're better than that!
― ng-unit, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
No, I'm not.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
According to ctrl-f the band Darkblack have not been mentioned in the last five milion posts itt? They are more Portland dudes so I had cash money on a Nate post but no. I really like their proto-power-metal/pop-Maiden ish on their new EP, which is called 'Midnight Wraith', and I'm not too proud to admit that this is partly (if by no means exclusively) because of how much the guitars sound like The Fucking Champs
― smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
"Scott, what's the title of the book with your folk metal essay?"
i'm not sure. its an EMP conference best-of. should be out in 2011 though.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago)
Oh man -- I remember one of my friends who worked at a record label played me DarkBlack's demo a few years back because he found their name really funny, and I remember their music being pretty funny as well, but it's possible that they've gotten better since then.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 03:45 (fourteen years ago)
DarkBlack are awesome guys that put on a fun show. The Portland band you should be watching for right now is Rabbits. Debut on Relapse this February. They're fantastic.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago)
DarkBlack's not too shabby, I look forward to hearing the new CD. But when it comes to new traditional metal with quirky singers, Evil Survives is superior.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
I love rabbits, so I will listen to a band called Rabbits.
There's a Chicago band called Rabid Rabbit too. (NOTE to those of you looking for metal-jazz intersections -- They're pretty awesome -- saw them this past weekend opening for Yakuza. Dave Rempis, well known for his work in the improv/jazz scene (he's part of V5 and has Rempis Percussion Quartet among countless other ensembles), adds squawky horns to their pretty straight sludge/doom. He also served as the partially-reassembled Yakuza Arkestra reprising one of my favorite shows of the year.) Fun fact: iirc both Rempis and Lamont were students of KV at some point)
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
Have to admit that the name 'Rabid Rabbit' didn't inspire confidence, but that pretty much sounds awesome. I love the metal-jazz intersections.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago)
I know Rempis's work, with the V5 and some other groups as well - will definitely check that out.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I've really only recently dipped my toes in KV's dsicography, but I've heard Rempis on Beat Reader.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
rempis percussion quartet stuff is REALLY good, as is engines & rempis/daisy duo stufflove those guys
i agree that rabid rabbit is a pretty terrible name, but the band is good
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
not a metal dude but enjoying primordial (gathering wilderness, nameless dead) and getting into this new agalloch.
that is all
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago)
xp - all of this also reminded me of when i saw the giant steve mackay ensemble a few years ago with the (x) million tongues festival
that was a great show
― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
have any of you heard this live metallica thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Grimey%27s
had no idea it even existed until i was in the record store today
― markers, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't heard it, but that show's been available through Metallica's download store since the day after, just like every other concert they've played the last few years. The only "limited edition" thing about it was that they created a "real" CD and vinyl package for it.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
Going to see Ozzy and Halford tomorrow night at MSG. I actually like a lot of Halford songs, so I'm hoping the set list is heavy on their own tunes and doesn't rely too much on Priest material.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:11 (fourteen years ago)
Looks like I'll be at ATP this weekend after all. So anyone else who will be around should feel free to look me up :)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:10 PM (25 minutes ago)
omg lol, thanks for the heads up
― markers, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago)
all I know is it was p cool of Metallica to play a show for Simon Reynolds at his house
― smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:32 (fourteen years ago)
― markers, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:34 (fourteen years ago)
Wow nobody told me til now that Armando Acosta (original St Vitus drummer) died over Thanksgiving :(
His playing on the ultra-underrated Children of Doom has definitely been very influential to me, and the one time I met him, he was a gentle giant.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:09 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't know! That sucks, dude was great. And C.O.D. is awesome.
― 4 out of 5 Fenriz agree. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago)
damn, rip
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago)
Hey Nate: You've got my phone number right? If not mail me John at The Quietus dot com and I'll send it to you.
I'm around all weekend and it would be good to hook up. It's arguably best I don't meet people I don't know on the Saturday night as I'm going to get relatively crunk and can end up making the wrong impression. But for some people this is the right impression, and if this is the case come to the chalet party I'm djing at where I@m going to be playing crackhead dancehall, Pansonic, Gnaw Their Tongues and Dragged Into Sunlight until dawn...
If you've never been on the steam train you should do though... I'm going on Sunday afternoon before the bands play. You can get off at a coastal bay called Watchett where they have a brass statue of Coleridge's Ancient Mariner and a good fish and chip shop.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago)
sounds like my kind of party, see you there imo
is Whiney still going to ATP? He was looking for a 2nd chalet person a few weeks back
― smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago)
You're going? Nice one. Consider this an invite. I know a couple of people who are looking for a berth. I'll send you an email now.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago)
You know what's going to be high in my end of year list: 'Eve' by UFOmammut. Seems like it came out an age ago.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
Faith No More... sooooooooooooooo good...
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
I was going to suggest meeting at the high tables at the back between Bardo Pond and The Dead C on Saturday afternoon?
― ia! ia! Cartman fthagn! (aldo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
Bardo Pond & Dead C playing London tonight but I've got a bastard cold :(
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone mentioned the new Acid Witch album Stoned yet? I'm really digging the arrangements, it's superbly done retro-metal with doom/crust touches that really has fun with the campy horror shtick. But this is one case where I wish there was a singer instead of a growler. The songs are begging for a singer, and all we get are lazy monotone grunts. Pretty decent album overall, though.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah I did the (upcoming) Terrorizer review of it - I wasn't bothered by the vox so much as thrown slightly asunder, ie it seems to telegraph this doom/death vibe that otherwise isn't in their music. I mean shit I was thinking Kyuss more often than like Autopsy or whoever - I fuck w/ the album tho
― smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago)
I've been listening to Encoffination quite a lot recently. Pretty decent extreme death/doom.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
Photos, setlists, & brief notes from last night's Ozzy/Halford show...shortest possible version: If this tour hits your town, fucking go. Ozzy's playing for more than two hours, and doing a deep back-catalog set ("Killer of Giants"! "Into the Void"!). And Halford's great, of course.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 2 December 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
Not that we care, but here is what the Grammy people think were the best metal performances:
El DoradoIron MaidenTrack from: The Final Frontier
Let The Guilt GoKornTrack from: Korn III: Remember Who You Are
In Your WordsLamb Of GodTrack from: Wrath
Sudden DeathMegadeth
World Painted BloodSlayerTrack from: World Painted Blood
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
boooooooooooooring
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
yeah korn!
― markers, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
Newest band on there has been around for 16 years.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
the grammys would lead to to believe nothing new was happening in metal for 20 years. They dont treat pop like that. They're happy to give awards to newcomers in other genres. Surprised jethro tull weren't nominated tbh..
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
Then again, how many metal bands are on one of the majors these days anyway?Grammys are even more irrelevant now.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
The Brit Awards dont even have a hard rock or metal category (just as well cuz shite like Muse or Biffy Clyro would probably win it)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
u think i give a damn abt a grammy, have of you critics cant even stomach me let alone stand em
― markers, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
half, rather
― markers, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
me, rather, although lol
Interesting that all the bands nominated are on majors. That being said, at least the songs (of the ones I've heard, i.e., not Korn or Lamb of God) are pretty decent. They've had much more embarrassing lists.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
who you calling a critic, markers! Take that back you fuck!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
J3ff, thats kind of what I was thinking. Even that Lamb of God song isn't half bad, as far as LoG songs go. Thankfully that Korn song has never troubled my ears.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
no way are they the best songs of the year though. NO WAY!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
I don't think anyone at all is trying to argue that point.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago)
Who nominates them? Bunch of clowns with no clue.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
who you calling a critic, markers! Take that back you fuck!― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:24 PM (15 minutes ago)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:24 PM (15 minutes ago)
read yr eminem lyrics!
― markers, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Well, in order to be nominated you have to submit your entry. I don't really think, for example, Profound Lore is going to be submitting anything to the Grammys. Therefore, songs are only submitted by labels that still care about such awards, i.e., majors, and then the Grammy voters, who couldn't care less about metal, nominate the bands that they've heard of. Then Metallica wins.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
Even when they aren't nominated for anything.
metallica are the new jethro tull!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago)
Grammys: No Gay Wtich Abortion No Credibility
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
What other power metal albums, old or new, are as fun, exciting, and committed as Jag Panzer's Ample Destruction?
― serenchwilen, Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:16 (fourteen years ago)
Question for the thread: What were the worst metal albums of 2010? I'm putting together a Top 10 for MSN and have some thoughts of my own, obviously (hint: racist arsonist murderer, but for musical reasons), but I'm curious about others' biggest disappointments or most horrifying discoveries.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
was the pantera sounding lamb of god album out this year or last?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
hey dudes, anyone know anything about Dead Meat? looked them up because i thought they were playing here but apparently that was a different dead meat - anyway, portuguese brutal death metal band, and from the one youtube track they seemed pretty awesome, wondering if i should start scouring the record stores to pick up the slight catalog they appear to have
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
You sure henry isn't playing a joke on you?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago)
Henry only listens to Panamanian retro-thrash these days and assures me that all other metal is for saddo weaklings
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
also you guys will prob appreciate this as much as anyone, fresh grafitti from my home town, no joke:
http://www.rivertowns.net/media/full/jpg/2010/12/03/img_5589.jpg
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
wish it was HAIL SANTA
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago)
Do people really fly flags in their gardens?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 December 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
Rock-A-Rolla Top 40 Albums Of 2010
40. Hey Colossus & The Van Halen Time Capsule - Eurogrumble vol 139. Black Sun - Twilight Of The Gods38. Zs - Social Slaves37. Envy - Recitation36. Salome - Terminal35. Barn Owl - Ancestral Star34. The Body - All The Waters Of The Earth Turn To Blood33. Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence32. Wino - Adrift31. Unearthly Trance - V30. Ultralyd - Inertiadrome29. Black Breath - Heavy Breathing28. The High Confessions - Turning Lead...27. Knut - Wonder26. White Hills - White Hills25. Three Mile Pilot - The Inevitable Past...24. The Red Sparowes - The Fear Is Excruciating23. Emeralds - Does It Look Like I'm Here?22. Black Tusk - Taste The Sin21. Daughters - S/T20. Arabrot - Revenge19. Shining - Blackjazz18. Torche - Songs For Singles17. Twilight - Monument To Time End16. Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent15. High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine14. Celeste - Morte(s) Nee(s)13. Grinderman - Grinderman 212. Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier11. Liars - Sisterworld10. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal9. Ufomammut - Eve8. Kayo Dot - Coyote7. Motorpsycho - Heavy Metal Fruit 6. U.S. Christmas - Run Thick In The Night5. Master Musicians Of Bukkake - Totem Two4. Mike Patton - Mondo Cake3. Harvey Milk - A Small Turn Of Human Kindness2. Melvins - The Bride Screamed Murder1. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
Finally getting a chance to hear the Ghost record. I like what they're aiming for, but so far it seems that aren't quite good enough musicians to pull it off. Also, I'm surprised they were able to get a young Andy Partridge to sing lead. Might be a great band down the road but I'm not hearing it on Opus Eponymous.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 December 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
How did I miss #4 on Rock-A-Rolla's list: Mike Patton - Mondo Cake? Sounds awesome.
Best typo of the day.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 December 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
Worked up three lists for MSN: 20 Albums of the Year, 20 runners-up, and 10 Worst Albums of the Year. They'll probably run next week.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
That'll be fun. Especially the worst albums.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
There are a couple that I was really looking forward to that disappointed me horribly; a couple that sucked just as hard as I expected they would; a few examples of genres that have basically exhausted themselves (by that I mean that the "worst of the year" picks are effectively standing in for dozens of albums just like them); and some stuff that's just uncategorizably, sui generis shitty.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago)
BTW, I'm revisiting the Agalloch and Intronaut records tonight, and man, vocals really make all the difference. I think if Agalloch had Blind Guardian's singer, I could love them. It's 2010 and faceless black metal vocals can fuck. right. off. Same with the manly-man grunting & roaring Intronaut use. Get a real singer, maybe your faux-Toolisms will be 10% less tedious.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, the big deal, so what rote BM vocals are the only thing keeping me from loving the shit out of the new Agalloch.
nice to see that the mountain goats played jj's home town.
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Sunday, 5 December 2010 09:45 (fourteen years ago)
I like the raspy vox better on this new one than I did on Ashes. There were a few songs on Ashes that just really needed more melodic vocals, but with Marrow, it's like some ancient forest ghost in pitching in or something.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
Sunday afternoon Metal Listening Club at my house: I'm liking Solefald, whose new album Norrøn Livskunst sounds a tiny bit like a pagan/prog/black-metal Sigur Rós. 3yo daughter says they're OK, but that she prefers the previous album, Dyrathor's Sacred Walcraft Of Hel, which I actually already deleted because I thought it was completely undistinguished. She can download it again herself when she's older, if she likes it so much.
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, man, Solefald. How have I never heard this band before?
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
The thing is, if a lot of those bands had clean vocals, they would just sound like Codeine.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Monday, 6 December 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
You say that like its a bad thing.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 December 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
It isn't a bad thing! It would just make them not metal anymore.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Monday, 6 December 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
Although I think it would be pretty funny to see what non-metal music could pass for metal if you just swapped in raspy black-metal vocals.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago)
I'm posting my Top 40 albums of the year, plus the 10 worst albums of the year, on MSN this week; here are #s 40-31.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago)
\m/ ^_____^ \m/
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
Because Glenn sends me on at least one fulfilling wild goose chase a year I decided to give that Solefad a listen. The first track made me think Glenn had sent me to another pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; the second track killed that thought in about 3 seconds. I've decided that, as much as I dislike black metal vocals, I really, really dislike trebly BM guitars even more. I will say it is quite a diverse record; they even have a track ("Stridsljod / Blackabilly") that contains what sounds like a black metal version of the Munsters theme but ends up as Gogol Bordello in corpsepaint. Whatever Solefad is I can't say it bored me. Too WTF for that.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
The only even vaguely close reference I could think of was that Trinacria record Travel Now Journey Infinitely. Or, in impact if not specific details, the first couple Thought Industry albums. Even in such a nominally "extreme" genre as extreme metal, I don't hear a lot of records that are genuinely surprising.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
when are we starting 2010 metal poll noms?
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
I think Algerian Goalkeeper was saying that he wasn't going to do one this year, too much work for too little appreciation.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago)
i appreciate the hell out of it, i think most of us do!
if he doesn't wanna run the poll, i'm happy to tabulate votes on the back-end if someone can do the analytics (glenn?)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago)
word. always the BEST ilm poll of the year (and then some)--certainly of far greater reach/interest/diversity/humor (aesthetically speakin') than any competing poll run by yr rag/siteblight of choice. and it's fun too. lazy-assed rollin' metal goons--i'm lookin' atcha Scott, j0hn d, Phil, Gorge, Xhuxk et al--outta be ashamed of themselves for not contributing. let's do this you mugs!
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 07:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'll talk to Glenn, but hardly anyone from this thread takes part and even less took part in the alltime poll. It was mainly lurkers and non-thread regulars. Most here just bitch about it.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 13:23 (fourteen years ago)
ILX Metalheads : Do you want a best of 2010 Metal Poll ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't have the time for the all-time poll, wish I would have, but I'd love to see another metal poll. Gives a nice counter to the main ILM poll.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago)
in general, overarching all-time polls aren't really my thing (that's why I didn't participate in that one) but the year-end metal ones are always a good time and definitely appreciated.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago)
I feel the same as Alan. I didn't vote in last year's because I didn't feel I had heard enough new metal in '09, but this year is different (I had an insatiable appetite for metal!) Even though I didn't vote last year, the poll clued me into some great albums I had missed.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
I always appreciate an EOY poll so I can catch up with what has been going on, but I don't think I could vote as my list could only stretch to about 5 records max.
― ears are wounds, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
i have no problem w/ people who've only heard 5 or so albums voting, as long as they liked the albums!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
Hey, this crunchy power-metal band Triosphere is pretty good. Except I could swear she just sang "Can you taste the toothpaste grin?"
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
Brushing your teeth is so metal. \m/
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
so i go across the street to the dismal chain cuz they have south of heaven and seasons cheap on cd and i have been listening to the tapes for twenty years and i figure what the hell? might be nice to have new copies. they say "remastered" on them but i figure how bad can they be? they're TERRIBLE! UNFUCKINGLISTENABLE! i can't even turn up the volume to the halfway mark before the sound starts disintegrating before my very ears. its a fucking crime. did iggy pop remaster these things? what a waste of money. i'm so sad.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sorry Scott. I've never upgraded my tapes, and now I'm thinking I shouldn't bother.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
i have every slayer tape up to seasons. i think i might actually have two south of heaven copies. but if you ever wanted a testimonial for cassettes look no further than my original copy of that album. i've played it at least two or three hundred times over the years. still sounds phat.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)
original cd copies of those albums probably sound okay. old def jam CDs are usually fine. or American cds or whatever.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
I'll keep an eye out for you Scott. It'd be a good excuse to come back to the store.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
saw a sweet colombian pressing of south of heaven at a record show recently but i was already loaded down with oi! and psych records. did buy an original slowly we rot for ten bucks on vinyl though.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
I've been playing my old Banzai cassette of Haunting the Chapel for 26 years, and have yet to replace it with CD or vinyl. Those old Banzai tapes are of extraordinary quality.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
ILM Metal/Heavy Rock & other 'metal' subgenres 2010 POLL NOMINATIONS THREAD CLOSES 31/12 - All are welcome.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago)
my South of Heaven CD is a Japanese import I got like 10 years ago. glad I hung onto it.
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Thursday, 9 December 2010 07:41 (fourteen years ago)
Shameless plug for my big Agalloch feature over at PopMatters:
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/133403-the-weight-of-darkness-inside-agallochs-marrow-of-the-spirit/
(this was a fun one to do)
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 9 December 2010 07:53 (fourteen years ago)
and it was damn good too (read it last nite).
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I was late getting into Slayer and was so underwhelmed when I heard how shitty the CDs sounded.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
Picked up Decibel last night. My favorite quote -- "During this journey, I wrote several pages of random epic thoughts..." -- John Haughm, Agalloch
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago)
For those of you that subscribe to Decibel, have you all gotten this issue? I finally subscribed about 3 weeks ago and got email confirmation, but I haven't had an issue show up yet and I'm wondering whether I need to just go out and buy a copy of this.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
macdara to thread
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, I got my issue
― original bgm, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
I was just looking at Orphaned Land's wikipedia page and I saw this about their album:
Within the first week of being released in the United States, this album sold 600 copies and reached 80th place on the Billboard Heatseekers chart
600 copies in the first week? This number astounds me and tells two stores - 1) the record industry really is in bad bad shape if 600 copies can place on a Billboard chart, and, 2) metal albums don't sell for shit. I realized Orphaned Land is a long ways from even like Dimmu Borgir, but that is a tiny number.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago)
my issue arrived a week or so ago tbh
― Erykah Badiou (markers), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds like I'll have to go pick one up.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
what exactly is a heatseekers chart though? obviously it's not a main one.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
True, I mean it isn't going to reflect anywhere near the numbers of one of the main charts, but still... 600 copies in a week seems so low to me.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago)
i haven't gotten mine yet. was it something i said? ;_;
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago)
just listened to the murmuüre album. (finally! thanks for the tip, glenn.)
so, this is a really nice mix of spacey, krauty ambiance and black metal but less generic than that sounds. brought celestiial and lurker of chalice to mind - it's similarly natural and loose. scott should listen to this.
― original bgm, Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
Wasn't it Aldo who recommended it? I heard it because of him.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
ah, yes. you're right. I just saw glenn list it above.
either way, it's very strong.
― original bgm, Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
Just got the new Decibel yesterday. Last time one of mine was really late, I contacted Mark Evans and he was great about sending a replacement. Of course then the missing copy showed up too. I think there must be a lot of USPS workers enjoying this magazine.
― Brad C., Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
Well, the mail delivery in my neighborhood is notoriously awful anyway, so I feel bad blaming it on anyone else. I'll give it a couple more days.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
One more shameless plug...
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/134341-the-best-metal-albums-of-2010/
― A. Begrand, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago)
YOB were bluddy great last night, in case you were wondering.
― progspeed you! black metallers (aldo), Friday, 10 December 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago)
Here's my Top Ten at MSN; the 10 worst albums of the year piece will come later today.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago)
I personally don't blame Mark at Decibel, he always replied quickly to my e-mails and got my refund sorted pronto. But as I've said here before, I only received three issues without having to ask for them. Mark pointed the finger at distribution problems with a new printer but they couldn't go on for that long. Sure the postal system here isn't brilliant but I'm still getting my other mail! Long story short: I'll never subscribe to Decibel again.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 10 December 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago)
Holy shit, the Christian Mistress. Wow. Glad I heard this before I wrapped up my lists and voting in the metal poll. Her voice is fantastic, but its the riffs that make it such an absolute joy to hear.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago)
i love the last track especially. I still need to order that one, was waiting on a vinyl but its so expensive now for shipping n stuff I think i'll just buy cd.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
They tore it up live, too. Crowd was lovin' it, and they responded in kind. Really nice group of people as well.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 December 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
Here's my Top Ten at MSN; the 10 worst albums of the year piece will come later today.― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, December 10, 2010 6:54 AM (2 hours ago)
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, December 10, 2010 6:54 AM (2 hours ago)
love a handful of the top 20 -- i guess i need to check out that sword album, huh? they're from my city!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
Does nobody else have a MASSIVE problem with the drum sound on the Decrepit Birth record? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but I know I'm not just imagining it because one of my friends noticed the same thing.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago)
Otherwise, nice round ups, guys.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
digging A.B.'s list on stylus
i couldn't care less about the actual #1, #2, etc. rankings on most of these lists, I'm just glad to be able to note a solid 15-20 metal albums i've yet to check out and can run with!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
sorry, not stylus -- popmatters
R.I.P. stylus :(
fixing to place an order from profound lore, but i can't spend too much -- which of these are absolutely essential, awesome, worth buying, etc.? i've heard a couple tracks from agalloch, yakuza, but that's about it :/
* AGALLOCH - Marrow Of The Spirit * SLOUGH FEG - The Animal Spirits * DAWNBRINGER - Nucleus * YAKUZA - Of Seismic Consequence * LUDICRA - The Tenant * ATAVIST/NADJA - II:Points At Infinity * CORRUPTED - Paso Inferior * DAWNBRINGER - Sacrament EP * WATAIN - Lawless Darkness Ltd Digipack * WATAIN - Rabid Death's Curse Re-Issue
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
Essential? I'd go with the Agalloch, Ludicra, and Yakuza. The Watain and Slough Feg are both really good, but not quite as great as the others I listed. Wait, that Corrupted is very essential too. I still haven't heard Dawnbringer, which I need to remedy before the poll.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
haven't seen much talk about the new deathspell omega. loving it myself.
reminds me of the last few converge albums in approach. (though not sonically, obviously.) a band at the top of their game knocking out a razor-sharp, no-frills, and extremely aggressive release. this band is just SO in control of what they do.
vinyl is very nice too!
― original bgm, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
as for that list above, I'd go with the agalloch and corrupted records. haven't heard about half of em tho.
― original bgm, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'd go Dawnbringer, Yakuza, Ludicra and Corrupted.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
You really can't go wrong with any of the first five.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
essential
* AGALLOCH - Marrow Of The Spirit* SLOUGH FEG - The Animal Spirits* DAWNBRINGER - Nucleus* LUDICRA - The Tenant* CORRUPTED - Paso Inferior (far superior version to the vinyl version)* DAWNBRINGER - Nucleus (dunno that sacrement ep but that album is essential)* YAKUZA - Of Seismic Consequence - pretty good but id get the other albums listed above first.
Our tastes are pretty similar so i think you would like these.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
oops the dawnbringer is in there twice
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
see, its so awesome im telling you to buy it twice!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
oh and buy the swans album too if you havent heard it, it might not be metal but I think you would like it.
The first five for sure, but I'd also say get the new Watain digi as well. Not their best album, but it's still good, and the digipak is not only really nicely designed but a real bargain from PL as well.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Listening to Ghost now -- really, really liking the Blue Oyster Cult harmonies. I wish the production was a little more robust, though.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
great album
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
Here 'tis...The 10 Worst Metal Albums of 2010.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
People like Daath?
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
The guys at MetalSucks can't stop blowing them.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
I think they were also psyched that Stereomud got back together, so while it's a fun blog, you have to take their music recommendations with a grain of salt.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 December 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
I liked the first two Daath albums, they're good, they're catchy. The new one, though, is a disaster, nothing but a Guitar center circle jerk on record. It's like that Suicide Silence album last year, why even bother when you can't even remember how a song goes?
― A. Begrand, Friday, 10 December 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago)
^_____^
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
A couple listens later, I am going to upgrade my comment on this album The Road Less Traveled by Triosphere from "pretty good" to "really good". Norwegian traditionally-minded metal band with just a little "progressive" in the "guitarist probably learned a bunch of Alex Lifeson riffs when he was a kid" sense, and a great female singer with a deep delivery more in the old pre-black/death metal mold than the modern Nightwish/Epica opera-elf version. Like, imagine taking the melodic core of Dream Theater's "Pull Me Under" and grafting it back into something that tries to reinvent Savatage like Enslaved have remade Pink Floyd. I'm really hoping, for list making reasons, that this is the last stunningly good album I discover this year...
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 12 December 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
That sounds good.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 12 December 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago)
So I went to the Rammstein show on Saturday night in NYC, and it was awesome. Here's my review (with photos, also by me), and here are more photos.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 13 December 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
that looks awesome. and this is priceless:
"face-mounted flamethrowers"
― scott seward, Monday, 13 December 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago)
The new Deathspell Omega is really good. But is it good in a new way? Not sure yet. I've provisionally decided that the new Blut Aus Nord isn't good in any new way.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 13 December 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
imo, the new deathspell is nothing new. but what it does, it does extremely well.
― original bgm, Monday, 13 December 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
hey guys go nominate some metal on THE 2010 ILM SUPER-MEGA YEAR-END ALBUMS 'N' TRACKS POLL™ is open for nominations thru January 2, 2011 @ midnight EST I just nominated some.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 December 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Not that anybody has been asking, but it occurred to me this morning that my metal database could easily tell me what words appear with different frequencies in bands names than in album titles. Now that I bring it up, of course you realize how badly you would like to know, right?
The 10 words more disproportionately found in band names over album titles are:
#,Word,Ratio,Bands/Releases1, Inc, 4.95, 67/332, Cryptic, 3.16, 57/443, Project, 2.35, 111/1154, Corpse, 2.32, 116/1225, Legion, 2.15, 98/1116, Fatal, 2.11, 65/757, G, 2.1, 55/648, Lord, 1.91, 141/1809, Mortal, 1.87, 95/12410, Crimson, 1.86, 70/92
At the other end, all these appear 50+ more often in album titles than band names:
Anthology, 1/100Edition, 1/113el, 2/196en, 2/205Hits, 1/105Hymns, 2/203II, 10/1,000is, 4/571Of, 34/4,401Thrashing, 1/102Tribute, 1/133Untitled, 1/123Vivo, 1/132vs, 1/139Best, 2/377Live, 10/3,309Part, 1/284Song, 1/166Songs, 1/331Tape, 2/512Welcome, 1/285
Full list here:
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=Metal-Index&query=Band%2FRelease+Word-Frequency
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 13 December 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
guys, still hashing out my Profound Lore order -- how are these albums?
* HAMMERS OF MISFORTUNE - Fields/Church Of Broken Glass * YOB - The Great Cessation * KRALLICE - Dimensional Bleedthrough * DRUDKH - Estrangement (re-issue)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago)
awesome
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
(side question: what's the story on Drudkh? do they have questionable worldviews i may not wish to support with an album purchase?)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago)
It was discussed on here before and the band say they are not racist etc etc so most seem willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
You will love them I think.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago)
Wow. Anyone heard the latest Vomitor record, Devil's Poison? Art damaged death-thrash from Australia. It's super chaotic and off-kilter. Really cool stuff.
― Brooker T Buckingham, Monday, 13 December 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago)
Harvey Milk vinyl now for sale (pre-order)http://www.bluecollardistro.com/bcd/product_info.php?name=bcd&products_id=3918
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 December 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago)
Anti-fascist bloggers calling me out for booking an Allerseelen tour. I guess they don't know about my Jewish blood (and big nose).
http://rosecityantifa.weebly.com/1/post/2010/12/allerseelen-on-tour-austrian-far-right-musical-project-on-west-coast-tour-playing-support-to-northwest-heavy-metal-act.html
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 11:06 (fourteen years ago)
not familiar with this band but pretty sure the general antifa response to learning that wouldn't be "ah right you are, carry on then"
― ITV2: Jimlectric Beglinoo (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago)
We invite Agalloch to clarify its position towards the far-Right and fascism, and to indicate what precisely it meant by promoting Allerseelen to its audience.
Oh for god's sake shut up.
― scary-cat-mascot-costumes-for-kids2.tk (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 11:48 (fourteen years ago)
"fascist-friendly policy"
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago)
So, I read the whole "statement" about Allerseelen by the Rose City Antifascists, neither of whom I'd ever heard before. It leaves me provisionally convinced that the latter dislike the former, at least. It doesn't, I think, make a sufficiently strong case that Petak's politics are outside of the scope of social acceptability, so while the authors are probably within their rights in asking questions, it doesn't seem to me that they've established sufficient moral grounds for demanding answers. I am also inherently skeptical of an essay that calls out an artist in detailed personal terms, and then signs the whole thing as an anonymous collective. If you're going to attack a person, directly, to the level of detail of tracking the movements of his "associates", you are stepping into public, and you better do it with your masks off and your own lives open to exactly that much scrutiny. If it were me being called out, I would demand to see names and signatures, and gauge my response as a personal conversation with those individual people, conducted howevever publicly.
That said, though, "Apparently you haven't seen my nose" is not a responsive answer to any question they're asking. "We invite Agalloch to clarify its position towards the far-Right and fascism, and to indicate what precisely it meant by promoting Allerseelen to its audience." is a stiffly but carefully worded sentence. Ignoring it or responding to it are likely to be more productive reactions than trying to treat it like it's obviously and inherently laughable.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
A good example response to this sort of thing, though, might be something along the lines of "Transgressive art is often morally challenging, by its nature, and engaging with it, as an audience, is not at all the same as endorsing its internal logic. We are confident that Agalloch's audience are capable of deciding for themselves how to receive and respond to Allerseelen's music."
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
Oh god antifascists ruin everything. I don't care about Allerseelen's dodgy "militant paganism," and it has absolutely nothing to do with Agalloch. Jesus they act like all these guys are fucking Skrewdriver or something. I invite these fuckwads to kindly stfu and gtfo.
― Without warning, a wizard walks by. (Viceroy), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
You make very good points Glenn.
And as for taking off the mask, they phoned me from a blocked number at 10:30 this morning to get a statement from me. I refused to be quoted on 6 hours of sleep but told them I was entirely unaware of any fascist connections and that I'd make a personal decision myself after spending a week in the van with Allerseelen (who are also staying at my house.)
I'm anti-fascist in principle too, of course. But I don't see a smoking gun or a strong case in this instance.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
Only fascists would want to know who they're talking to on the phone, Nate.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago)
Undoubtedly. And now they've posted my private cel # on some sort of site or list. I'm fielding blocked calls from uppity college students that are demanding to know why I'm promoting a fascist band in Portland.
When I ask them their names and why they are calling from a blocked #, they invariably hang up. The few who have stayed on the line, I've called cowards and victims of propaganda. Sheep I tell you.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago)
Now that I've been labeled a hipster and a fascist, I'm waiting to see what's next. Steampunk? LARPer? How much lower can I go?
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
Tabletop Wargamer.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
Ouch!
(but I do love me some Talisman!)
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:46 (fourteen years ago)
Don't deny your true nature; I saw that huge collection of painted miniatures and realistic terrain at your house.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago)
I too loved Talisman back in the day.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
I found Talisman kind of repetitive, actually -- just seems like going around in circles for hours. But then, I dig Arkham Horror, which some people think is REALLY repetitive. Anyway.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago)
Last nerd post for the moment - I always wanted to play Arkham Horror but my crew weren't Cthulhu guys. And as much as I liked Talisman, I played more Dungeon! than any other boxed game until I got into Civilization in high school.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 01:54 (fourteen years ago)
The original Dungeon was a blast. I've been into Settler of Cataan this year. Talisman goes round and round for sure, but I own so many of the expansion sets that there are a lot of random variables and extra characters to keep it interesting.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago)
Settlers is brutal -- I very nearly had a falling out with one of my friends over that game. I'm actually surprised to find other metal dudes who are into boardgames, but I probably shouldn't be -- the subject matter of a lot of it (fantasy, horror, historical) overlaps, as does the nerd factor.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't played in a while but I'm a Carcassonne enthusiast. Hunters & Gatherers is the best game of the bunch IMO.
Nate I can't believe these dingalings are harassing you. Rude.
― ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago)
i think the issue here is that you are all damn nerds!
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
I always wanted to play Arkham Horror but my crew weren't Cthulhu guys
You can play Arkham Horror by yourself, y'know.
Also, I'm getting Carcassonne for Xmas. Geek pride!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago)
Kerrang top 20 of 201020. Electric Wizard - Black Masses19. Linkin Park - A Thousand Suns18. Motion City Soundtrack - My Dinosaur Life17. Stone Sour - Audio Secrecy16. Black Breath - Heavy Breathing15. High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine14.Grand Magus - Hammer Of The North13. Trash Talk - Eyes & Nines12. Jimmy Eat World - Invented11. Alkaline Trio - This Addiction10. Far - At Night We Live9. Against Me - White Crosses8. Melissa Auf Der Maur - Out Of Our Minds7. My Chemical Romance - Danger Days: The True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys6.Kvelertak - Kvelertak5. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis4. Bring Me The Horizon - There Is A Hell,Believe Me I've Seen It. There Is A Heaven, Let's Keep It A Secret3. Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier2. The Gaslight Anthem - American Slang1. Deftones - Diamond Eyes
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
4. Bring Me The Horizon - There Is A Hell,Believe Me I've Seen It. There Is A Heaven, Let's Keep It A Secret
oof, this album title
― original bgm, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago)
I love that Jimmy Eat World album, too, but what the hell is it doing on this list? It has many virtues, but kerranginess is not among them...
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
that's what I thought while typing it out.xp
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
glenn> that kinda thing is what kerrang covers now. It hasn't been a metal mag for 10 years. It covers emo.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago)
I have a soft spot for Jimmy Eat World, but never got around to picking the new one up. Worth it glenn? How does it stack up against the last one?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago)
But I suppose talking about Jimmy Eat World is grounds for dismissal from the metal thread.
Kerrang! list could be a LOT worse, which is to say it's not greatly representative of what's been most prominently covered
― ITV2: Jimlectric Beglinoo (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
*in the mag that is
I did not! Will have to add it to the list of things to do.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
^real talk! now this is a metal thread.
― You're Twistin' My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Man! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
Here's a measure of how good 2010 was in metal, for me: I've got a provisional draft of my all-metal P&J ballot, and the massive, monumental Triptykon album is currently 13th out of 10.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
13th out of 10
some funny math going on here
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
stats don't lie, man.
― You're Twistin' My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Man! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
I meant that it's a great, important album, and yet there were 12 I rank, in some sense, even higher.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
Only one of which is controversial as "metal". (But it's #1.)
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
New Rose Kemp is a last minute game-changer for my year-end lists.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago)
The Rose Kemp gets better with each listen. I had it at 17 in my top 20 but it's climbing in just the couple of weeks since I made the list. So good.
Not really metal though - it's something else. I'll go with awesome.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
Nate should just state that these bands stand beyond any criticism. If any man should attempt to criticize them, he should be thoroughly patronized for his obvious, etc etc.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Anyone can criticize any band. But to call me a fascist sympathizer and trade my private cel # around is not fighting fair. Especially since this group of cowards will not post my comments in response to their specious claims.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:44 (fourteen years ago)
I wonder if they realize the irony in their fascist approach to their anti-fascism.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
Probably not.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sure they don't. But you certainly nailed the dynamic. Also, Allerseelen stayed at my house last night and they are total gentlemen, frown on the right wing, and are about to go have coffee with me.
I like to make my judgments of character based on first hand experience; not based on internet rumors.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 December 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
"Hi, I'm Nate, are you guys Nazis?"
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago)
Do fascists like one packet of sugar or two?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago)
"would you mind not goosestepping in public please?"
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 December 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago)
I think it's as funny as you guys do. But the harassment and underhanded tactics this Antifa group is pulling towards me is very real.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:36 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, in no way am I trying to make light of your situation, I'd be furious is my private number was all over the place for crazies to call me. But I'm glad your sensibly sticking up for the guys.
Have any of you heard the new Hypnos 69 album, Legacy? Not entirely metal, more of a psych-prog record with stoner touches, but a really great example of when the progressive sound works for me.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah dude, these guys are total creeps. I've been blasting them to everybody I can. I am 100% on your side.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
HOLY CRAP:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/reviewpics/turisasstand.jpg
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
does that say TURDSSTAND UP AND FIGHT?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
I'm pretty sure this is going to be in my top 10 for 2011 without having even heard it.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago)
Turisas are such a blast - if they can come close to writing music that deserves such and awesome cover I'll be happy.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I'm still trying to figure out how to download the new track.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
I think you need to battle through barbarian hordes to get to it.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago)
Actually, it looks like you have to give Centurymedia access to your Facebook or twitter, which I'm not entirely comfortable with.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
THEN DONT DO IT
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago)
You need to stop before I cleave your head in twain with righteous Viking fury.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 December 2010 19:28 (fourteen years ago)
Turisas/Paganfest in Montreal was one of the greatest metal shows I have ever seen. Huge expectations with this album.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 17 December 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago)
saw Brutal Truth a few days ago. man what a great show. all of the opening acts were good (a rarity, but oddly were all local too). bought me a Brutal Truth hoodie from Dan Lilker (was in awe, dude's hair is next level). learned that Dan A. isn't good at making change, and B. the hoodie musta been made in a sweatshop, cuz it leaves junk on everything you wear underneath it. but it still looks cool.
oh the show? phenomenal. they're all weird individuals, Kevin Sharp wore a cowboy hat, his voice/shrieks were impeccable, they played a lot of new stuff, but did include several tracks off of Need to Control and Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses. and for $10. best bargain of the YEAR.
― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Saturday, 18 December 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago)
I know it's from last year but what do you guys think of Animals as Leaders? My TA just tipped me off to them. Seems pretty remarkable in its intricacy and precision. Well-crafted compositions too. Is there anything else I should look for?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 18 December 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago)
Interview: http://www.guitaredge.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=509:tosin-abasi-8-string-animal&catid=45:interviews&Itemid=66
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 18 December 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago)
Tosin Abasi is one of the most extremely talented guitar players of the last decades. Really, that guy can do just about anything with a guitar.
― Marty Innerlogic, Sunday, 19 December 2010 12:35 (fourteen years ago)
Check out Scale the Summit as well. Also, Lye by Mistake. Both heavy instrumental dexterity units.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Sunday, 19 December 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Tesseract is better than Animals as Leaders, in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Sunday, 19 December 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
It's that time of year. Everyone (including lurkers) are allowed to vote ~~~~VOTE IN THE 2010 ALBUMS OF THE YEAR (METAL EDITION) POLL~~~ Voting Ends Sunday Jan 9th
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 19 December 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago)
It's that time of year. Everyone (including lurkers) are allowed to look at this photo of Biff Byford from Saxon chillin w/ L. Gaga
http://www.rockaaa.com/wp-content/gallery/bands/biffgaga.jpg
― When I Pardew I See Rakes (DJ Mencap), Monday, 20 December 2010 11:38 (fourteen years ago)
She needs to work on her claw.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 20 December 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago)
SOMEONE TELL ME THE ONE METAL ALBUM FROM 2010 TO DL RIGHT NOW!!!
I NEED TO GET FVCKIN METAL IN MY BRAIN
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 20 December 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
Cathedral if you're British. High On Fire if you're American. The Body if you're disturbed. Electric Wizard if you have an spiritual bond to the dark arts. Encoffination if you're terminally ill. Iron Maiden if you're a classicist. Kylesa if you're hip. And all of them if you're righteous.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 20 December 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
And Agalloch if you want genius.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 20 December 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
And Agalloch if you want genius Nazis.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 20 December 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
Also the new Enslaved.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 December 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
High On Fire is close but sucked compared to all their other albums
the Kylesa is ok but approached alt rock from 2001 at points.
some of these other suggestions could have come from the Rolling Metal 1995 thread.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
that th eHigh on Fire doesn't really approach some of their other albums, but is still one of the best things i've heard all year in metal, either says volumes about the state of metal in 2010 (nah), or the consistency of this band (YES), or the fact that i just need to hear more metal (quite possibly!)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
I know and enjoy Scale the Summit, although right now I think Animals as Leaders are a cut above. I'll look out for Lye by Mistake and Tesseract.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago)
I don't mind the Cathedral album but I never really got into it in the way that so many people on this board seem to. Seems kind of hokey, actually.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:46 (fourteen years ago)
ILM is the only place ive seen people rave about cathedral (or kylesa) people who are hardcore fans of both are very split on it.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
I like the kylesa and the cathedral is ok but nothing special really.
I like the Kylesa better than the Cathedral, if only because the Cathedral is too long and too eclectic; it's like a buffet platter, where the Kylesa disc does one thing really, really well for a concise 40 minutes.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago)
Will be interesting to see how they do in our poll.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago)
How does the Kylesa album compare to Static Tensions?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago)
Better songwriting, better production, better vocals by Pleasants.
― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
Aww man Encoffination, I'm loving it. Takes me back to the late 80s death/doom thing before everything got blasty and brutal. Hope I can find their stuff somewhere.
― scary-cat-mascot-costumes-for-kids2.tk (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 04:16 (fourteen years ago)
Did my part and officially purchased the Agalloch since it finally popped up in my local shop this week.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 05:04 (fourteen years ago)
It's the riffs with Cathedral though. And, yeah, I prefer Blessed Black Wings to Snakes For The Divine but not the others.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago)
And tbf: Electric Wizard - Rolling Metal 1972; Iron Maiden - Rolling Metal 1990 - 2010; The Body - Rolling Metal 2023; Encoffination - Rolling Metal 1990.
― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
On top of the riffs, the Cathedral record is also about the production - it sounds spectacular. Doesn't feel long to me because it is so eclectic. I find it an invigorating instead of tiring listen.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
oh, definitely. the sound of the thing + its continually surprising make-up are precisely what I like about it. I don't find listening to it to be a chore at all.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
If you are around today Adrien, just want to say that, as usual, your year-end wrap-up is making for some fantastic reading. The last couple albums have been really great choices.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 December 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
Also, Phil is 100% right. As shocked as I am to be saying this, The Damned Things album is a really fun hard rock record.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 December 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
The year in metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dup7hhAjGnc
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 24 December 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago)
Thanks! I've been too busy to post in the RMT thread lately. My #1 album is a real left-field non-metal choice, thematically a total opposite to Agalloch.
I found myself sort of liking the two leaked Damned Things songs, so it looks like I'll have to give the album a try (and maybe a write-up) before the end of the year.
Got lots of comments about 2011 albums, but that'll wait until the 2011 thread!
Oh, and Phil: funny.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 24 December 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago)
Don't forget to ~~~~VOTE IN THE 2010 ALBUMS OF THE YEAR (METAL EDITION) POLL~~~ Voting Ends Sunday Jan 9th
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 December 2010 09:21 (fourteen years ago)
My #1 album is a real left-field non-metal choice, thematically a total opposite to Agalloch.
Taylor Swift?
― 69 65 51 46 (Ioannis), Friday, 24 December 2010 11:23 (fourteen years ago)
in a perfect world ;_;
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 24 December 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago)
..she wouldn't exist.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 December 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
celebrating Xmas with some Deathspell Omega iirc
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 25 December 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago)
Darkblack still have a dumb name and a crappy singer. My impressions from two-three years ago were correct. Pretty tasty classic metal riffs, though.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/reviewpics/zombiecoffee.jpg
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago)
looks over-roasted to me
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Has anybody else heard Hour of 13's The Ritualist? As retro-minded doom goes, I think I like it better than Ghost. The songs are pretty fucking catchy, in a Roky Erickson and the Aliens sort of way, especially "Demons All Around Me."
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, I have. it's pretty good but I liked the s/t one from a few years ago a bit better. could just be the extra time I've spent with it, tho.
― original bgm, Thursday, 30 December 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, pretty good traditionalist doom. Didn't really do much to grab my ears outside of some decent tunes, though. I just love the harmonies and atmosphere of the Ghost record the more I listen to it.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the Hour of 13 album is terrific. Old fashioned doom that's not afraid to employ good melodic vocals.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
By the way, over at Hellbound we've put up our critics' poll of the best Canadian metal albums of 2010:
http://www.hellbound.ca/2010/12/hellbounds-top-10-canadian-metal-albums-of-2010/
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 30 December 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago)
Have you heard the new Cauldron, Adrien? I love it.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
I'm nuts about it. The cover of Halloween's "I Confess" is brilliant. And I had a blast talking to Jason about obscure Canadian 80s metal bands. They used Scorpions' Blackout as the template for this album, and they really pull it off, it's got more of a German metal feel than the NWOBHM comparison that people keep tossing out.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I can totally hear the Scorpions in "Frozen in Fire" and stuff like that.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
Plus I love how "Queen of Fire" has a total George Lynch rip-off riff and tosses in the line "under lock and key".
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
does everyone else who's heard the Cauldron record hear 'Tears Have Come' as "tears of cum"? :/
― When I Pardew I See Rakes (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 December 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago)
So I really, really love this one Shadow Theory song ("I Opened up My Eyes") that has some crazy awesome Jethro Tull flutecomment but then the rest of the album is decent but generic Dream Theater/Symphony X worship, which makes me sad.
― Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago)
flute, not flute comment
I love the new track Cauldron is sharing on their myspace.Are they sharing any others elswhere?
― serenchwilen, Friday, 31 December 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago)
I think that's the only one so far. It's a good indicator of how the entire album is, though.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 31 December 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
Rolling Metal Thread 2011
Please lock thread.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
no dont. delete new thread. its not new year yet
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
ilx runs on UK time plus there's no Aussie metallers.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
this is still 2010
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:38
Rolling Metal Thread 2011 [Started by Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.) in December 2010 looks stupid. No-one else will steal the thread start from you, just start it in 2011 please.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
So let's stay here
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
bitch bitch bitch.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
What time is it where you are?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
Time for metal.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
10am jan 31st?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
Has anyone actually got advances of 2011 albums?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
Several folks talking about the Cauldron record, so yes.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 31 December 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
I have a few 2011 releases already: the new Cauldron, the new Destruction, the new Full Blown Chaos, the new Motörhead, and a double disc by some black metal band called Helrunar.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
how is the Motörhead?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago)
New Motorhead's as solid as ever.
Cauldron and Ken Mode are the best 2011s I've heard so far, but there are some biggies I'm hoping to hear next week.
Oh, and Graf Orlock's Doombox is great fun too.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 31 December 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
I like Ken Mode. Not familiar with Cauldron at all.
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago)
Is the Cauldron release available online in the usual crevices?
― no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Friday, 31 December 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
You mean journalists who never buy music?
― Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago)
I wish I didn't have to buy as much music as I did this year.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 31 December 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
Okay, NOW lock thread.
― Doomsday Derelict (J3ff T.), Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:00 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
― markers, Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:03 (fourteen years ago)
hi metal dudes did any of u hear this album out last year and/or dig it? my drummer showed it to me today and i loved it! not the type of thing i consider my thing at all, i guess it's like... power metal? kinda proggy? rly have no idea how to talk abt this, but it's like, relentless, epic, ongoing soloing (exclusively in triplets), really energetic, kinda posi. gave me a bit of a 70's psych vibe, too
http://www.mindovermetal.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/titan-300x300.jpg
― flopson, Friday, 25 February 2011 04:19 (fourteen years ago)
..?
― flopson, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
Quite a few people love titan here (myself included) but noone probably responded to you as you revived the 2010 thread! I didn't notice this one had been revived.their first release on paradigm recordings is still my fave thing they have done
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)
sweet i'm glad u guys dig it, i revived this thred bc i didnt want to be scorned
imagine ppl in this band high five each other on the reg
― flopson, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)
Titan are okay, but like most of those prog revival bands they leave me kind of cold. I would rather listen to Area.
― You sure slapped some meat in their eyes, Jimmy. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 27 February 2011 04:20 (fourteen years ago)
huge late pass but I'm just now hearing Stargazer and it fucking kicks ASS.
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:13 (fourteen years ago)
double disc by some black metal band called Helrunar
Haven't heard their new one (iirc their label only deals in digital promos now, fuck that), but I wrote this a few years ago about an earlier album by them and one by their labelmates Noekk, both of which I still pull out and play, three years later -- still like the Prophecy-label Nucleus Torn album from that year, too:
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/03/excellent-boring-metal-from-germany.html
Otherwise, people will perhaps be shocked to learn that I actually agree with lots of the people on this thread! Or at least people who say the Cauldron album is their favorite metal album from this year. In fact, as I already mentioned on Past Expiry Hard Rock, it's one of my favorite albums from this year, period, and one of the catchiest metal albums I've heard in years. Also been liking the Holy Grail and Christian Mistress albums from 2010 (hey, I'm slow, sue me), though the latter with reservations; wish it was less thinly and fuzzily produced, so I could hear the singing and songs more. But I do detect real potential in that band.
Thought the new albums by Burzum, Crowbar, and Stryper (all of which I reviewed for Rhapsody) were bearable; will never play them again, though.
And finally, here's something halfway amusing I wrote a couple weeks ago on all-covers albums by metal bands. (Garage Days and the Def Leppard one from a couple years back aren't available on Rhapsody, so those got left out; I'm sure I left out other obvious ones too, but this was still fun to do):
http://blog.rhapsody.com/2011/02/metal.html
― xhuxk, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
I'm slow, sue me
So slow that I probably just posted, for maybe the very first time, on last year's thread! (Didn't notice 'til now, oh well.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)