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larry mahnken's commentary at the hardball times today helped convince me the picture isn't quite as bleak as i'd previously thought:

"Should the Yankees finish the series today, they'll be able to start Mussina in Game One. That rotation hardly negates Boston's starting two, but in a potential Game Seven the Yankees might have Mussina against Bronson Arroyo, though of course all the pitchers but Pedro and Brown will be available in the bullpen."

though i'd guess it could easily be mussina against schilling on 3 days rest. if el duque comes back strong, i'm confident the yankees can squeak it out with no small degree of luck. otherwise, it's going to take stellar performances from a whole batch of pitchers who've delivered far less than most of the year. the sox and twins offenses are so disparate as to be almost beyond compare: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?cat=Overall&cut_type=0&conference=AL&year=season_2004&sort=702

so who's gonna win? in the end it boils down to this -

what the sox have on their side:
offense
defense
pitching

what the yanks have on their side:
history

choose wisely.

(yankees in 7, just cuz)

― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox in 7. Make it so, Sox.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox in 6 and Schilling wins 2 of 'em

― bnw (bnw), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Again, I'm agreeing with John here.
History is going to give 100%, stay focused and play some solid d.
(Boston will choke).

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck a choke.

Sox in 6.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Red Sox in 6 or 7 -- they're just too fucking strong. I'm impressed.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://https://www.sunlawn.com/catalog/images/400AB.jpg

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

oh no, i've lost it!! that's the first ever image that's not gone thru for me :( :( :( :( :( i am not pure of heart

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

my title was better!!!

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox in 4.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(The Twins kept the Yankees on the ropes almost every game except Game 3, which had last-inning could-they-do-it intensity anyways -- and the Twins do not have Manny/Ortiz/Damon.)

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

There will be no Boston choke. The Yankees, OTOH, can collectively choke on my dick.
Boston in 6. I would have said 5 but the Yanks have the home field advantage.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston over NYY in 6.

― boldbury (boldbury), Sunday, 10 October 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston over the Yanks in 6. I don't know if I can take this shit again.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Daddies in 5.

― briania (briania), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston in 7, maximum dramah.

― the leglo (the leglo), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't need anymore fuckin dramah.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

SURPRISE: Murray Chass of the New York Times sez the Red Sox will lose the ALCS because losing is what they do. I'll be fucked if I'm gonna actually dredge up a link to that hooey - John or some other pro-Yanker can do that dirty work (oh yeah).

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 October 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

we all know how long it's been since the BoSox won a world series, but how long has it been since they beat the Yanks in a playoff series?

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

In the brief history of the wild card race?

1999 NYY 4 - BOS 1
2003 NYY 4 - BOS 3

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck a flat knuckleball in extra innings a 3 year old could take deep.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 October 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Game 1 -- Schilling/Mussina
Game 2 -- Martinez/Lieber
Game 3 -- Arroyo/Brown
Game 4 -- Wakefield/Vazquez
Game 5 -- Schilling/Mussina

Looking at that lineup, I just can't feel that the Red Sox have a great advantage. They have some, but I wouldn't be suprised that Mussina or Lieber either one comes out and at least holds a game tight enough that it comes down to the bullpens late. Wakefield could either be unhittable or be gone early, not that Vazquez is a Maddux of consistency or anything.

The Yanks defense is much better than last year. Olerud may have lost most of his bat, but he is still good with the glove and a definite upgrade on Giambi in the field. I don't think the Sox defense is much better, if it is at all.

Both of these teams can hit like wild.

I wouldn't be suprised that the big game comes down to who screws up between Mike Timlin, Alan Embree, Flash Gordon or Paul Quantrill.

At least the Sox are not going to have to call upon Bob Stanley or Calvin Schraldi to get the last few outs. Keith Foulke is the first real closer they have had when Boston actually had a shot at winning it all.

This is Boston's best chance that I can remember. They went out and got a gold glove ringer to play first and a real closer, so at least they are trying to learn from their mistakes.

All I know is if I was a Sox fan I don't want to see Miguel Cairo coming to the bat in extra innings against Derek Lowe. They should shutter at the thought of that happening.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox in 5 if curse doesn't come into play (they really just a far better team--on paper and IRL.) Yankees in 7 in the most tragic way possible if curse holds up.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, all the people picking the Red Sox here virtually ensures the Yanks will win. Fade the public.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, the Red Sox were 11-8 against the Yankees this season. However, if you look at the second half of the season the Yanks come out ahead, since the Red Sox started out very strong, going 6-1 at the beginning of the season. This means that after the first seven games, and once the team found its footing, the Yanks went 10-2.

I think it will be the Yanks in 7. No one who watched that midseason game where Jeter dived headfirst into the stands running for a pop foul can question the determination of this team to beat the BoSox.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

once the team found its footing, the Yanks went 10-2.
No, check your math, they went 7-5.
And Jeter can be as determined as he wants, but the Sox are a better team. Both teams "want" to win equally badly.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's times like these that I wish I were feelthy rich and could afford to spend a week out East paying insane broker prices for tickets and watching BoSox and Yankees fans beat each other to a pulp while I sit in the middle with my hands behind my head and feet up, smoking a celebratory stogie.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, and I guess that July extra inning game in Boston where Varitek got in A-Rod's face and they won in the 9th on a Mueller HR off of Mariano, that don't mean dookie. Sheesh to the nth powah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

BBT wants to be Ring Lardner in Eight Men Out!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No one who watched that midseason game where Jeter dived headfirst into the stands running for a pop foul can question the determination of this team to beat the BoSox.

No offense o-nate, but no one would've noticed this play if it wasn't Jeter.

xxxpost

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

JETER JETER JETER!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No, check your math, they went 7-5

Sorry, I'm losing it. You're right.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No offense o-nate, but no one would've noticed this play if it wasn't Jeter

Much to-do is made of Torii Hunter's fearlessness in jumping into the outfield wall after a home run. In my view, diving headfirst into the seats shows more fearlessness than running into the outfield wall.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Um can I ask why Mr. Determined & Fearless and the rest of Overpaidy Bunch have managed to um like not win the World Series the last three years against other teams who like the Red Sox also lack Mr. Determined & Fearless (but have those little intangibles like scrappy hitting and starting pitching. . .)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

jeter is underrated

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, obviously determination and fearlessness aren't everything. Also, I think that determination is particularly strong against the Sox, moreso than for other teams perhaps. I think what happened last year is that the Yankees spent themselves against the Sox and didn't have enough juice left for the Series.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this is the toughest and MOST talented Sox team I've ever seen. I'd be shocked if the Yankees beat them cuz of pure grit or something. And the Red Sox didn't lose last year because of mental toughness anyway. They lost because their manager was an idiot (which I suppose is still possible this year.)

Jeter is an amazing ballplayer, but he's subject to the same laws of baseball that almost everyone else is. I mean for all his big game player talk, the guy was 0-4 against Beckett in that final game.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeter is not mentioned enough by sportscasters.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha you are joking, right?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Go ahead and laugh, but even leaving aside Jeter, I count on A-Rod's determination to get that WS Ring to be another not inconsiderable factor.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha and I'm sure that none of the Red Sox hitters (or pitchers want that ring.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

They do but A-Rod is better than them.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Football and basketball commentators say these sorts of things all the time, i.e. "The score is ties at the half, and it's all going to come down to who wants it more". Uh, no, it's going to come down to who plays better. There's not an athlete alive who is playing for a championship in any sport who believes that the players on the other team have more determination, motivation, or want to win more badly than they do.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think he's much better than Ramirez (at hitting anyways.)

Anyway this whole series is going to come down to how the Yankee hitters deal with Schilling. If they can't (and history seems to indicate they can't) I predict that this is going to be a very short series for them. If they can then I would wager these teams are about even and all this talk of "pressure" and "grit" and "toughness" might actually mean something.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't it think it's schilling so much as schilling AND pedro (which is so obvious that it doesn't really need to be said) - they have to hope to split those games, and come out on top in the others. but wakefield always seems to manhandle the yankees as well.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Almost forgot to predict...

~~I'm pulling hard for the Sox but my GUT is sending me a signal I cannot ignore. Yanqs in 7 again.~~

Aw to hell with that, Sox in 7, party on the big goddamned NY logo behind home plate!!!
http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1629875th.gif !!!

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nelson can pee on it!

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://wwjdd.org/wwjdd.gif

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

In my view, diving headfirst into the seats and risking a season-ending injury OR paralysis when your team is playoff-certain is fucking stupid. I think Joe Sheehan -- a Yankee fan -- said so on BP 3 months ago.

I actually think Jeter and A-Rod were both somewhere around the 11th to 15th-most valuable AL players this year. Jeets had a good year even if he's monstrously overrated.

Please Bosox, exorcise your demons NOW, then let the Blue Jays Era begin in 2006.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

EAT MY FUK YANKEES.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

from my blog:

This seems to be the Sox's year, as their pitching is very strong, the batting order is almost flawless, they actually have a defense and the Yankees actually aren't all that deep a team. Which is to say, the Red Sox blow it (middle relievers and setup men being the culprits) and the Yanks win in seven. I hope to God it doesn't happen, but it will. It always happens. For the Sox to win, it needs to be a boring series. A series where the Yankees never get in it emotionally — Sox in five, something like that — because once it gets to a game six or seven, the Sox won't be able to stop themselves from considering every other time they've been in that position. And then they will beat themselves. So, let's make it Sox in 5 or Yankees in 7.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

All Red Sox players need to be locked in sensory deprivation tanks for the next week, just so they can avoid the inevitable (bullshit) questions re: The Curse That Exists Only To Give Lazy Sports Journalists A Crutch.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, sports writers should be hounding the Yankees with "bad things happen to teams that beat the Sox"

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

When Mariano comes out for his press conference someone should ask him if he'll have his "electric" stuff tonight.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Did John write this?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucking hate Yankees fans with everything I have.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm curious. Are there any actual Boston fans on this thread, or just people that hate the Yankees?

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Right here, o!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: otto midnight and Chris V. and David R. are pretty unabashed Red Sox fans.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, at this time of the year, most of us are Boston fans via process of elimination.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate the Red Sox a fair amount, but I hate the Yankees like I hate practically nothing else in the sports world (except for maybe the Celtics.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been hoping for the Sox beat Yanks, Cards beat Sox sequence for a couple years. My YankHate grew exponentially when I agreed to a free NY Post subscription.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a fan of Doug Mienkiewicz (sp?) and David Ortiz. I am a non-fan of Derek Jeter and A-Rod. That's good enough, no?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been pondering the question of the importance of Game 1. If Boston loses (and particularly if Schilling pitches badly) then cue the doomsday scenarios because of the oft-repeated mantra of Boston's aces > New York's aces.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to find all the predictative scenarios and match-ups, while definitely fun to indulge in, go to shit the minute the series starts.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

my favorite sox/yankee rivalry moment was the guy with the "fuck the yankees" sign and the PATRIOTS CHAMPIONSHIP PARADE a few years ago.

― dan (dan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"at the"

― dan (dan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

small beans, dude: the patriots started a "yankees suck" chant AT THEIR OWN SUPERBOWL PARADE. which is fucking awesome and kind of makes me wish i was a sox fan. [eek]

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

btw this is either going to be boston dominated (4-5 games) or a really good series. same w/ the NLCS (STL dominated/or). i'm obv leaning toward "really good series" for both.

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Reactions from the 1st inning:

FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm watching on mlb intl. and there's no ads!! schilling was just in the dubout, immediately put on his sateen jacket, somebody tries to rib him about something (bellhorn?) and he just turns away to fill up his water bottle. he comes back and says "hey" to the ribber, sits down, immediately finds a little bag behind the bench, a coach comes over and talks to schilling, standing exactly between him and the camera, for awhile, he moves away, bag is gone, schilling hanging out. maybe i'm paranoid. that was a good inning.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

This doesn't have anything to do with the game, but has Kenny Albert (the on-field guy for Fox) always sounded like Beano Cook? He sounds like he's got about five minutes to live.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheff walks ... hold me

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Aaaaaagh

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a nightmare.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox in 6 and Schilling wins 2 of 'em

oops...

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't actually make a formal prediction beyond poking fun at all the conventional wisdom and Red Sox jocking on this thread, did I? Ok, Yanks in 5.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If Boston loses (and particularly if Schilling pitches badly) then cue the doomsday scenarios
WTF, why did I write this and risk jinxing the team?????

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks exhausted. We can win without him, but this hurts.

(Tracer, are you still in the UK or France or ... sorry, I forget where you were, but there?)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Schilling is AWFUL tonight. Seriously, worst I've seen him all year. Good timing, too!

This is now just a boring game to have to sit through. Odds of the Yankees blowing this lead must be 10,000 to 1.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd kind of rather he hadn't "cowboyed up"

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

BOMBERS SCHELL BEAN-EATERS

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

sutcliffe is a terrible commentator

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

FOX has Al Leiter in a three-man booth and he's no joy to listen to either. Surely this has something to do with the three-man booth, with is a terrible concept.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, no matter how Schilling pitched -- short of brilliant -- the Yankees were going to win tonight. Mussina has been masterful.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw man, I like Al Leiter in the booth, or at least what I heard from him last year. I only saw about one inning of him tonight (so if he's been obnoxious I plead ignorance), but if a former player is going to give me insights on the game, I'd rather hear his than McCarver's.

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops, not quite a former player yet...

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew Mussina was doing well tonight, but I wasn't aware he was throwing a perfect fuckin' game.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was coming back to the thread to note that he'd been growing on me as the game has gone on.
I still hate three-man booths, though, it always sounds like everyone's tripping over everyone else and fighting to get their words in. That must have been my problem all along.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope he gets it and uses all the Jankys' mojo so we get Sox in 5.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the moment he gets off the field he goes right into the locker room and nobody talks to him. i think posada might go in with him.

i can't believe we lost schilling.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

WHen you start Kenny Lofton as your DH, and you put him in the nine hole, and he smacks a home run, you can bet it's going to be a pretty good night.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep i'm in Londres! i can't stay up for this bull-kaka. 7's too much. and did you notice how good El Brujo was pitching and not getting any calls?? every curve he threw would have been a strike in Boston's turn at bat. why the f*ck doesn't Ramiro Mendoza get the respect he deserves?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

nice move, Francona, bring Mendoza in three outs too late and hook him three outs too early

(i buy laskanic about as much as i buy lowe right now)

(nutz to Francona again, for bringing Wakefield in - i thought he was pitching game four? and now that Schilling's out the bench isn't exactly flush with starters. plus Wake's a guy with a pretty consistent history of not being comfortable unless he's secure in what his role is. he hasn't been a relief pitcher for how many years now?? i hate everything.)

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you ever kind of want them to just send, like, the bat boy or Seth Myers or someone out to pitch, just so they can save everyone else for a game that doesn't have an 8 run deficit?

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that was weird. If Schilling's ankle was bothering him *that* much (which the FOX commentators are convinced of and won't shut up about it) then they'd be pretty dumb to pitch Wakefield tonight.

Given that Wakefield did pitch, I think that Schilling isn't hurt, he was just TEH SUCK tonight, and will pitch Game 4.

(oh, there goes the perfecto)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Well at least the perfect game is gone. That would been mortifying.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

shucky darn

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're the Red Sox, a Pyrrhic victory here would be to force the Yankees to nibble away at their bullpen a bit tonight.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

bye bye shutout.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh we're so hurt!!!

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! Could it be...........?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

no.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow Mussina totally lost it quick there.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

o shit.

i am not very good at tough talk.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Still think so, John? 3 runs is a lot less than 8.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG VARITEK

THIS IS ILLLLLLLLLLL SON

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

This would be a colossal comeback, but the Sox'll have to do it through Gordon and Rivera now (not that I would count them out.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I already told the girlfriend that if the Red Sox make the World Series, we're naming a kid Varitek. (I said this last year too.)

Goddamn this game is going to give me a heart attack.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

An acquaintance of mine named his first son Fenway.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh damn that's awesome. Now I need two sons!

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have Ortiz' babies if he ties this up...

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

WHY WAS RIVERA NOT BROUGHT IN

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLY SHIT

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ, something came out of me -- I might as well call it David Ortiz' babies.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i fucking stayed up. i = idiot.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, WTF was Matsui doing on that play?

I'm lovin' it!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They didn't wait long to play a fantastic fuckin' game did they?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

WHY WAS RIVERA NOT BROUGHT IN

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ, I'm finding a tv.

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone else see a texas leaguer/soft grounder through the motherfucking infield coming up next??????//

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Cuz he wasn't warmed up yet, John? He'd only thrown a few pitches out there and the DUDE did just fly in from Panama today ya know.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ohmigod though this is just incredible. Fox must be eating this up.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

he was brought in a lot faster than that against minn. of course he did blow the save but he looked sharp.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

spare me the heartstring talk, mr commentators!!! no one knows what his relationship to them was like, or what he feels.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Dammit, Millar!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

all of you with hope in your hearts are fools.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

3 outs.

christ nixon and varitek scare me tho

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

get that record godzilla

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, at least the game turned out to be an exciting one...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

STAB STAB STAB

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

sox: we're here!!!!
yanks: no. you're not.

― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Manny watched that ball like it was something good on TV.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Total respect to Rivera for going to a funeral, flying for 5h, arriving in the middle of the game, and getting the save.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh. Fuck tha Yankees.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Attn Yankee fans: Is it possible to wipe one's brow in relief and look smug at the same time?

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Once Schilling coughed up the 6 runs, it was a sunk cost. The fact that the Sox were able to slap Mussina around a bit (or, at the very least, get a hit off the guy) and force the Yanks to dip into their bullpen AT ALL would've been enough of a recoup on the crap Schilling start for my taste. (And, hey, they actually hit the very hittable Tanyon Sturtze! Bonus!)

The fact that the Sox made it VERY competitive, and Francona didn't go to Foulke A) to start the 8th or B) when Timlin was looking kinda sketchy on those 2 singles is a whole different matter. A version of this line is bound to be in Joe Sheehan's write-up for BP tomorrow, but - if Foulke's the guy you want in the game when you're down three runs, then why isn't he in the game when you're down only one?

That said, the Sox nearly overcame a horrific start from their #1, gave the Yankees something to sweat about, and can still leave NY with a split and 3 games at Fenway.

McCarver's three sheets to the wind - that shit he puts in his hair must make him trip his balls off. He talked about Johnny Damon being in the Yankee lineup, called Bronson Arroyo "Brandon", made up some nonsense about Varitek centering a pitch on Rivera. Leiter's OK (leaps and bounds beyond McCarver right now, which is, y'know, a damning comparison), but I'm wary of him. Also - that "Who's Your Daddy" chant is the lamest thing ever. Also also - why the HELL is Fox even thinking of cutting to the booth during the 9th inning when the tying run is @ the plate? I guess I should be thankful it was Al showing off Mariano's cutter, and not that punchable talking baseball.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The Red Sox have no daddy. They are bastards, magnificent bastards.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the format 2-3-2 ? I didn't think that was until the world series. Or maybe I'm thinking of some other sport.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's 2-3-2. I think every major sport uses that set up (unless the NBA is still doing that hellish 2-2-1-1-1 thing).

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah -- I think that is what I was thinking of; I think the NBA might go 2-2-1-1-1 UNTIL the finals, when it switches to 2-3-2. For whatever reason.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

2-2-1-1-1 makes more sense for the NBA, since home court is a much bigger advantage than in, say, baseball.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No home field advantage in baseball you say? Well let me tell you about the mound height and slope at Dodger Stadium. For the next four days.

― Tim McCarver (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with the Motherfucker's spin. Our hobbled ace pitches his worst game of the season vs Mussina's perfecto through 6... and still we make em sweat.

This plus the election = heartburn city.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, Mussina owns the Sox. Always has. And yes, lifelong (depressed) Sox fan here.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope McCarver accidently falls out of the booth and gets impaled on David Ortiz bat.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I am glad that TAFKATH recognizes that, yes, I am THE Motherfucker.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

What I think is funny about Boston sports is that the Pats have won two Superbowls and have the longest winning streak in the history of the NFL and yet it seems to be a second run sports story.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved when McCarver was slobbering all over how Matsui hit an "unhittable pitch" and Leiter said "maybe he was just lucky".

― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

McCarver is a dunce. Suckin on the Yankees dongs like he does every year.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

from the sports guy:

6:48 -- But seriously, can you imagine telling your boss, "I need to leave work early today if that's OK, I have to go home and make my giant 10-by-5 'MOOSE GOT THE JUICE' sign for tonight's game"?

6:52 -- During the inning, after a cartoon baseball named Scooter explains how a curveball works, the Sports Gal happily says, "I liked Scooter!" I think I'm in hell. Meanwhile, Mussina cruises through the fifth.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Scooter, meet Mr. Sheffield's bat. Mr. Sheffield's bat, meet Scooter. What, leaving so soon?

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's hoping Scooter meets Sluggo McBash in tonight's installment concerning the Back Door Slider.

(not really an xpost, given briania's post is right there, but I can't deny the power of Sluggo McBash)

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Petey is going to summon the power of Eric LaSalle's Soul Glo Gerry Curl and take it to the Yanks tonight (I hope). Or else I'll be jumping of of my deck this evening.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Only 9 hours till game time! CAN YOU DIG IT?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It kills me...the anticipation. That Sports Guy article is so true. Wasn't Schilling the man we needed to push us over the edge this year? And now he may not be pitching again in this series or at all. WTF. If it can happen to the Red Sox it will. Never fucking fails. Maybe there is a curse.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM DAMN IT

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

15 of the 17 runs last night were scored with two outs. Guys up and down both sides coming up clutch - should continue to make for a great series.

― briania (briania), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Once Rivera got the pop-up to end the 8th ... let's face it, 3 runs down in the 9th against him, the odds were 150-1 or so.

If they were chanting "daddy" at Schilling, what does Pedro get? Let's hope he's ornery and ready to go 7.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Pedro will get the "HOW'S your AN-kle" chant.

― mattbot (mattbot), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ZING

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

From Joe Sheehan's recap of last night's game:

"Look, if it's important enough that you'll use Foulke down 10-7, wouldn't you get him in there to start the eighth inning down 8-7? Or perhaps with two on and two out down 8-7?"

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah fuckin Beakona what a dip. And that rocking shit he does really grates on my nerves.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"The tendon is snapping over the bone," Red Sox physician Dr. Bill Morgan said Wednesday.

(Nothing there that wasn't pretty obvious.)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Game 2, Inning 1.

I hate life.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It is happening again.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with these "RIGHT NOW!!!" graphics that Fox shows from time to time? Anyone watching knows this stuff, and what are the chances that somebody who hasn't been watching flips to the game at that exact second. Am I missing something here?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

They're marks for Van Hagar

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(or Crystal Pepsi)

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Pitch counts through 5 innings: Martinez 91, Lieber 45. The Red Sox are making Jon Lieber look like Greg Maddux circa '95.

― ojitarian (ojitarian), Thursday, 14 October 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno -- a 25-pitch inning can't be a good sign, even if it's 1-2-3.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The Yanq starters are the BoSox "daddies" through 6 so far in the last 2 games.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Is anyone still watching this one? What's up with the Red Sox's crap offense tonight?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i've got a bad feeling about gordon.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm...interesting.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, Lieber hands it over to Gordon. Ex-Cub factor in effect.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Now Skeletor is in.

C'mon, Caveman!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the score?

― Helios Creed (orion), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, Damon, take the fucking bat off your shoulders!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

How can Damon take that pitch? Is his hair in his eyes or something?
(xpost)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Load the bases for A-Rod? JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE.

If the Yankees win the ALCS I hope it's in Boston so I can see the SHOWER OF GARBAGE.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Manny showing soem balls, at least.

C'mon Ortiz, make it a contest.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh. Rivera is just too black, too strong. Kee-rist.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(that's it, just "fuck")

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This is beyond suck.
Schilling is likely out for the season, and Pedro was brutally outpitched by Leiber. That's basically the worst case scenario for Boston at this point.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i think this was another psychological win for the red sox; pedro's control was a little shakey but he was throwing in the mid-90s all night and had fantastic stuff.

just 2 more of these and they should be able to take a perfectly contentful winter vacation.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

There is something positive to be taken away from this game for the BoSox fans and it's that the Patriots are the best team in the NFL.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And the Yankees will be CRUSHULATED by Saint Louis, mwa-ha

Oh, FOOTBALL, that'll dull the pain, right.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"We're out of beer, but if you're thirsty, we have cigarettes"

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Brady TD passes to Daniel Graham are like sweet lady marijuana, pal

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

But I don't want to sit around eating cheetos listening to Dave Matthews Band. I WANT TO GET TIPSY

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

then revel in the cocaine high image of watching Hollywood Jim rob Derek Jeter of a double to preserve a Cards win

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I"M A CUBS FAN AND I DONT GIVE A FUCK

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

my worst worst nightmare = yanks win next game (50/50 odds on this is generous) but lose series anyway (vazquez vs. wakefield looks like an automatic loss (though i've always got hope that javier can turn it around) and if schilling is healthy the next two are once again big advantage sox, wiping the slate clean for a winner take all brown-arroyo redux), becoming the first team in history to lose a series in which a team led 3 games to none. that would suck.

i really hope schilling's done but i'd bet anyone he pitches game 5 (if there is a game 5!!?!!).

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Schilling may pitch one more game, but based on what I've heard about his injury, he is done. Yanks in 5 if not 4.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a pretty nice guy in general; however, I will not tolerate any NFL/football talk on this board. I'm sorry, but that's the way it goes. You have all been warned.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax why u break heart all time ;(

okay back to baseball!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 14 October 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I may have to concede victory AGAIN YOU YANKEE FUCKING ASSBAGS.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 14 October 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hope springs eternal, VB. Three in a row @ Fenway for the Sox isn't out of the realm of possibility. Last night, there was really nothing to do, except to make sure Lieber didn't have 3 pitch innings (which he might as well have, given how mindbogglingly efficient he was). I'd like someone to investigate the possibility that the Yankees actually traveled back in time, abducted 1993's version of Greg Maddux, and threw him out there last night wearing a lifelike mask.

One saving grace: I eagerly await the moment when either Gordon's or Mariano's arm falls off.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 October 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, being down 2-1 is better than 3-0 obviously. I have some optimism left....very little, but some.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

>Guys up and down both sides coming up clutch<

From Briania's sports-talk audition tape?

I guess Olerud and Lieber were the only clutchies last night...

I'd say "RIGHT NOW" is the latest Fox brainstorm for the Remote Era ... C'mon, I flipped between the games and Kush-Berry 100 times last night.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, not many two-out hits last nite. And Gordon's arm may as well have already fallen off. Tune in tomorrow for the final broadcoast of "Brian is Burning."

― briania (briania), Thursday, 14 October 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, broadcoast! The kid's en fuego.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 14 October 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone mentioned that Tom Gordon is seeing spots before his eyes from getting hit by a flying champagne cork in Minnesota? Best injury since Sosa's sneeze!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Bets on who opened the bottle?

― briania (briania), Thursday, 14 October 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It was Felix Heredia, from what I heard.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahahaha! Of course it would be!

― briania (briania), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

First clean strike he's had all season.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, i totally forgot about the debate.

david otm about rivera and gordon's arms.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

So what are the chances tonight's game is going to be played? Anyone in Boston?

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

fox will want it played; what about nyy and boston? i'd assume if anyone has an advantage in taking the series back a day it would be the bosox.

http://radar.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/radar_index.asp?partner=accuweather&type=still&nxtype=sir&getArea=CT_&btnGet=btnst

(yikes)

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

they won't double-header, will they?

actually, considering the lack of schilling, i'd think the bosox would want to go now...

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 15 October 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't follow. from what i've heard he's not out for the series, just game 5 (or the day that was supposed to be game 5). if anything this buys time so that he can get another start in the series (or even game 5 after all but i seriously doubt it).

― John (jdahlem), Friday, 15 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Postponed. Oh well.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Friday, 15 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Arroyo always had the whiteboy dreads?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucking christ, should I even bother to watch the rest of this shit?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, guess I can keep it on. ;)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Saturday, 16 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Last inning was pretty clutch!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wow.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 17 October 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

...

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BOSTON BEEYOTCHES

― obnoxiousyankeesbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

where have you been all my life?

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, suck a bone, you spoiled Yankee twerp/s. If it's such a feat to get mondo hits off the likes of Curtis Leskanic & Ramiro Mendoza that it's worth gloating like your team actually DID SOMETHING WORTHY OF A HAHAHAHAHA, then I pity your sad sack 184 million dollar asses, because I think it's safe to say that whichever ass-kicker emerges from the NLCS is going to cruise into a championship.

Yeah, I'm vaguely bitter. I bailed after it was 12-6; BP does lose its flavor after a while. If someone could find the wheels that came off the Red Sox bandwagon after the ALDS (or maybe after Francona decided to stick w/ Timlin against Bern Baby Bern in the 8th inning of Game 1) & return them to Yawkey Way, it'd be appreciated.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Tad (AKA Eisbar) (AKA The Boston Strangler), were you actually waiting for a double-digit win for Los Yankees against You-Know-Who before you came onto ILB, or is this just a "well-timed" coincidence?

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i suppose it doesn't make much difference now, but: why is mark bellhorn batting second? he sucks.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I was kind of hoping the Red Sox would win this one. Oh well. I guess we don't have much of a series on our hands after all.

― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Were the Yankees underestimated?

― briania (briania), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll say.

― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

All I've gotta say to all you Yankees-haters:

Come over to the dark side. Things are much more pleasant over here.

― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 17 October 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

no they're not.

― maura (maura), Sunday, 17 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(and believe me i should know, i spend many of my hours in yankee obnoxio-fan immersion camp)

― maura (maura), Sunday, 17 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Go St. louis.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Sunday, 17 October 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ok it's tomorrow, i've let this sink in long enough, so i can say it: this series is not over.

el duque has nothing today. pedro in game 5. schilling in game 6. bam, it's game 7, anything can happen. last night was fun, but i couldn't enjoy it much, because contrary to what 95% of baseball fans seem to believe, it DIDN'T win the series.

i am not comfortable.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but El Duque against Derek Lowe? Keith Foulke better be ready to go 6+ tonight.

― mattbot (mattbot), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

derek lowe's a bad pitcher (but capable of surprises); el duque might be unable to pitch at all (ok so they probably wouldn't be starting him if they thought this was at all likely, but let's be optipessimistic for the sake of argument here). the yankees won last night, but i'll still take the sox in a slugfest at fenway every time. and then i get worried, because i don't like going up against pedro no matter how many times the yankees have beaten him, and i don't want to face schilling no matter how bum is ankle supposedly is, and i definitely don't want another game 7. it's unlikely that the sox will come back, but that's as far as i'll go. yesterday and today's games are as important for the yankees as they are for the sox, he said with only slight overstatement.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/10/17/hernandez_rested_ready/
Torre said experience was the main factor in giving Hernandez the nod for Game 4.

"We feel that he's healthy enough to try this," said Torre.

oh gee, no worries then.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hideki Matsui certainly knows when to turn it on. Why on earth was Bernie Williams hitting clean up in front of him?

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 17 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

dude it makes perfect sense that o. nate is a Yankees fan since he looks a lot like John Olerud! (that's a compliment, Olerud's not a bad looking dude.)

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 17 October 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I would love to look like John Olerud.

Matsui is indeed stupendous. I feel that he doesn't get the plaudits he deserves.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 17 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i have more confidence with matsui at the plate than with any other hitter on this team, and did for much of last season as well. you get the feeling he can do whatever needs to be done in any given situation - HR, FB, GB slapped through the hole the other way, whatever - and that's just not something that can be said of, i dunno, virtually every other hitter in baseball these days.

shockingly though, it's probably sheffield who's been most under the radar this series - .692/.733/1.154 for a very decent 1.887 OPS.

gary vs. hideki fite?

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Why the fuck couldn't Sheffield have showed this side to him when he was on the Braves?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"We feel that he's healthy enough to try this," said Torre.
It's relatively easy to make this sort of decision when you're up 3-0. With any other score in the series, it would be a more contentious decision.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

true, but i think the game's actually a lot more important for the yankees than most realize for the reasons i've outlined. it's really, really important to beat their bad pitcher so you don't have to face their good ones. normally i'd want torre to go for the kill and pitch mussina, but i don't have a problem with the decision because a healthy duque could be the difference between a won or lost world series. it's a good move, but it carries a huge risk, because an unhealthy duque could be the difference between a won or lost ALCS.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"Why the fuck couldn't Sheffield have showed this side to him when he was on the Braves?"

He did in 97 when the Marlins won it all.

Sheff, A-Rod and Olerud in place of Giambi, Soriano and Mondesi is the reason they are hitting like mad in the playoffs. All three of those guys are so much more disciplined at the plate it isn't funny. Giambi used to be very patient but turned into a K machine last year. Olerud hit well in the playoffs for the Blue Jays, Mets and Mariners. He was a very good pickup for the Yanks off of the baseball scrap heap.

Matsui was very solid in all of the playoff games last year, but he seems to understand the pitching much better now. He is killing pitchers by going the other way. I would not be suprised to see Matsui bust out next year into a MVP type year next season.

I think a Yank vs Cards or Astros World Series could be an offensive shootout not seen in a long time. All of those teams can hit like mad. The Red Sox can hit like mad, but they seem to have lost their bats somewhere.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

olerud??? are you kidding me? i like the guy a lot but i'd kill for giambi right now, even last year's version.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheff hit .062 in '02 and .143 in '03 with the Braves in the postseason. So you can see why I'm a bit peeved to see his gaudy .692 average now.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there anyone in the Yankees lineup that's not hitting above .400 for the playoffs?

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

probably everyone other than sheff, matsui, and a-rod.

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

calmed down any davey?

― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 17 October 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! Red Sox actually don't fuck up a tough play, for once.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Can somebody give me a reason why the game was delayed other than "Fox had some NFL highlights and commercials n'shit they had to get through"?

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 17 October 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cardinals/Astros game started pretty late, too, so maybe the noon football game(s) pushed everything back.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yawnarodhomersyawn.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Could Red Sox fans actually be dumber than Cub fans?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

To answer my own question - there are "only" four Yankees hitting at or above .400 for the ALCS.

BTW, it's nice to know the board spazmeister is concerned about my well being. Howdy, Johnboy. For the record, I have only swallow a few handfuls of aspirin tonight, so I should be OK after the doctors pump my stomach.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 October 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Did McCarver just say "baseball is a game of inch"?

:explodinghead:

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Odds that the Yanks score 2 in the top of the 6th? 1 to 9?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you Ortiz.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL mccarver did say that

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

...and right on cue, Matsui blasts a triple in the 6th.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Lowe did a really good job though.

Matsui is the Beltran/Pujols of the American League. Fuckin' Yankees.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Red Sox catch a huge break.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

...or not? I couldn't tell from the replay if Williams' foot actually tagged the bag or not. In any case, that play saved the lead, at least temporarily.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Bellhorn = goat horns.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

He was out. Bad slide.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(Oh, and the Yanks score 2 just like I said...FUCK.)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

is torre being paid off by fox now too? or did he think since the yanks were up 3-0 it'd be nice to fuck around a bit, and use it as a rest day for his pitchers?

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh cute montage to "Hard Knock Life" you FOX douchebags.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the umpire finally figured out what a high strike is. how convenient.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

why fear when we have TANYON STURTZE (and no one warming in the bullpen!)

torre very clearly wants to lose this game.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, gordon's up. but sturtze???

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

This inning is do or die for the Sox since I suspect there'll be two innings of Rivera after this.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not do or die when the yankees only have a one run lead and ramirez, ortiz, nixon, etfucking cetera are due up.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Paranoidally nervous Yanqui fans when their team has the lead with 2 innings left and leads the series 3-0: C or D?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

pedro and schilling are simply better than what the yankees will bring out in games 5 and 6. not that i'm not paranoidly nervous.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yankee fans are fucking dud no matter what bullshit they are babbling about.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(if you can't tell i don't subscribe to the curse, or the idea that the yankees will win because they're the yankees and the sox or the sox, or that the 2004 yankees are better than the 2004 sox, or that the 2004 yankees AREN'T better than the 2004 sox but because of their attitude and professional approach they're sure to win, or that a 3-0 deficit is insurmountable, especially in this case, when the 2 most talented pitchers in the league are likely to start the next two games for your team, or that a 1 run lead in the 8th inning is a sure win provided mariano rivera is on the mound because he's, of course, invincible and has never blown a save or lost a game and the red sox DON'T hit him very well. none of this means i'm paranoid, see?)

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

babbling???

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

aaaaaaaaaand....here we go!

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

weak.

i keep thinking giuliani's hat says "pwned".

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep thinking his hat says "I'm a jagbag"

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Golly, that was a suspenseful 8th! I'm on pins and needles!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) at this point, i'm not sure which is more apt.

dude, ONE bad pitch (like that 2-0 one nixon sat on) or groundball through the hole and it would've been tie ballgame.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

...and then Foulke woulda coughed up the lead in the 9th.

Your point?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm almost hoping that Sheff hits it out right here so that I don't have to put up with any more of the "Sox fail with the tying run on base" aggravation.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

rivera looks about as rattled as i've ever seen him.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

no suspense here.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

YAWN

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You gotta love Roberts. This is fun stuff.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ROFFLE.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i dunno, it's making me sleepy. i think i'm going to bed. for a long time.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Echoes of Arizona, October 2001. Loving this shit.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

haha never count out Leee's boyfriend

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think they would have beat Damon to the bag anyhow.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

NOT a good at bat by Cabrera. Ugh.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

wow what an ugly at-bat by Cabrera

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like it may be a LONG night ...

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Sax packed with Sox!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hehehe ... and of course, this all started with ...

THE DREADED LEAD-OFF WALK

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Who pitches the 10th for the BoSox? Foulke has to be cashed.

(Oh, Embree. Goody.)

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems as though the Sox have been chasing unhittable fastballs up and in all night.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Foulke, Embree, Gordon...too many ex White Sox for my tastes.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

don't forget zesty Esty

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Has ELo seen even 1/3 of an inning this postseason? He seems more like a chimerical vision in the bullpen than anything.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

So, Ruben Sierra: 'roids user or not?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Sierra = another ex-palehose!

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You're right -- 1998!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all up to "Flash"...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

ruben sierra has gotten really ... big.

― maura (maura), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it normal to get bigger and more muscular as you approach 40?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

NICE FUKKIN' GRAB, Cabrera!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I say pitch to Sheff here.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i suppose it is, bbt; i just didn't realize how dramatic his evolution was until earlier this week, when some old sox-yanks game was on espn classic.

but you know, i also could have been fooled by the old moustache slimming effect

― maura (maura), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

IM NTO EVEN WATCHING THIS GAME ANYMORE MOTHERUCKERS!!!!

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i don't know, isn't it normal for a player's HAT SIZE to increase as they approach 40? (hi gygax!)

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a little human growth hormone among friends

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Leskanic vs. Williams...who wins?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Leskanic, bitches!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

c'mon Mientkfakakakavkvajvjvjvajavjasdjka!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the fact that Tony Clark has grey hair. What is he, like 27 years old??

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

He's 32 according to baseball-reference.com.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's go, Cabrera. I need to get to bed.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

One more inning and then I'm calling it a night, regardless.

Sleep > baseball.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The top of the 12th had that "inevitable Yanqui win" feel to it, so I'm impressed that Leskanic actually pitched out of it.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"????"

i'm officially retiring.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK. YEAH!!!!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

THANK THE LORD.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

well, that was certainly a no-doubter.

night all.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

woohoooooooo

― maura (maura), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ONE

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

oh well, the sox got their ONE WIN.

enjoy it while it lasts ... for tomorrow night shall come hee hee hee ;-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Tomorrow night in Fenway with Pedro on the mound. Fuck a smiley, son.

Hey, maybe Schilling's tendon'll be better by game 6 -- then he can walk to the mound in his D-Backs cap and scare the crap outta the Wankees.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

enjoy this victory -- and the delusions of winning it all -- for about 12 hours or so cause later today is when ... BOSTON TASTES NEW YORK'S CAPITALISM HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HO HO

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

why is a guy from PHILADELPHIA so intent on rubbing it in for Sox fans? Honestly, I don't get it dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i maximized my enjoyment by flipping between the dead zone and the red sox batting during the extra innings.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

go to the introduce yourself thread, that's all you need to know.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

rhetorical question, I don't really need an answer.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the yankees as well as the phillies. that = a LOT of schadenfreude!

(it's also warm-up for the anti-boston vitriol to fly during this years eagles-patriots super bowl)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 18 October 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't they have just spared me the agony and closed it out last night? If they come back and win this (highly doubtful) I will run around Fenway butt naked.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 18 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Will Francona finally put this "Mike Myers is worth more than a bucket of warm spit" myth to rest? What does he see in him? Does Myers have compromising pictures of Francona with someone else's wife?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Same with Timlin, I swear Francona is nose fucking him on the side.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 18 October 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Also why does Beakona insist on playing Bellhorn. Give Pokey a godamn start, what difference is it going to make. Bellhorn couldn't hit the broadside of a barn these days. Same with Damon. I hate the Red Sox.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 18 October 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

They never really fielded their team. You know who I hate more than anybody? Millar. Yeah I know he clubs it once in awhile, but man. If this season were a horror movie (which it is) he'd be the guy who gets his head viciously gnawed off by a hobgoblin at the very moment he's laughing like a jackass about how stupid everybody is to believe in ghosts.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

What would Zim do?

"Even then, Joe had to distract him with shiny metal objects while Bernie and Jeter and David Justice held him down and wrapped him in ace bandages. Then we drove out of town and dumped him in the woods. By the time he'd eaten through the bandages and walked back to town the next morning, he had calmed down enough that he could communicate with hand signals and grunts. When we got back to New York, we just chained him to one of the batting cages and tossed raw meat to him until it was time for him to pitch against the Mets."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/041018

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

so in the eleventh last night: second and third, 2 outs, embree walks sheffield to get to matsui. why does francona then bring in myers when he's already got a lefty on the mound? not to mention that matsui jacked one off myers the night before?

yeah, bellhorn is awful. nice form when he swings and misses, though. he's had a lot of practice.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 18 October 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i think it was only a guy on second--when myers promptly walked matsui, *that* loaded the bases.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 18 October 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Bases loaded: Mussina 22 pitches in, only one out and already a coaching visit and bullpen activity.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Varitek goes righty vs. righty, wtf?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

MAN ALIVE, THERE'S A MAN ALIVE IN THERE!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha of course Williams homers right then.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The home plate ump is clearly insane. I expect something appalling to happen. (As if I didn't already.)

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i've hardly been watching, what happened/what's happening??

1st and 2nd nobody out for the yankees. would be nice if it wasn't clark and cairo due up.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

o fuck

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dammit.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeter is overrated.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Why aren't those cocksuckers in the booth questioning the call? It looked an awful lot like he didn't beat the tag.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

no it didn't.

god damnit.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

John I realize now that you've been cruelly taunting us Soxers with your cod-paranoia. I almost started to believe it. I hate everything right now. Sure the Sox can pull a rabbit out of the hat. But I don't trust Francona with games 6 & 7, much less this one. I sure don't trust Millar.

Is Damon actually the Italian sausage guy wearing a fake beard? Is this the invasion of the body snatchers? If he doesn't come alive we lose it all right here.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL worst lip-sync ever. Even worse than Aretha at the NBA finals.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Haaha did the public address announcer just say she'd sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" and now she's singing "God Bless America"?? O cruel expectation!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

With this particular stretch and yawn I'd like to honor our American servicemen and women across the globe.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

WHY IS POKEY NOT PINCHING. I FUCKING HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE TERRY FRANCONA.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

stitcho bud, you realize neither team has any bullpen left = anything can happen from here on out?

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Tanyon Sturtze announced, Fenway goes wild.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(and, crossing posts, that is why i especially wanted the matsui hit to drop)

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Damon what happened to you?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Godfather sign brilliant: "Just When I thought I was Out - They Pull Me Back In!"

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Man(ny)...

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Lack of aggressiveness. Torre might have put Pokey in and put on the double steal. What does Torre do? Pray for the homerun from Manny, who against Flash Gordon is very. Ordinary.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Dur I mean "What does Frankie do"?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean lord what is Mike Timlin doing in. This is just a joke.

And the sacrifice from Jeter an exclamation point.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

of torre's in-game stupidity right??

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

jeter's a contact hitter whose natural stroke is to the right side, and you've got your 2-3-4 hitters coming up WHAT THE FUCK???

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I had tv right now!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

and the strikeout from a-rod an exclamation point.

PUT THESE BASTARDS AWAY GOD DAMMIT

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

That first pitch to Sheff was a fucking strike that fucker. APPALLING.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If it were the 4th inning, I'd agree completely John, but playing for an insurance run in the 8th to potentially close out the series isn't a bad move.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

John I meant Francona, not Torre.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i know!

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

matsui is going to set it in stone right here.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

My god I thhink Francona's been body-snatched and replaced with Bobby Valentine.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

by walking?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm watching this w/no commercials and they're playing Danzig's "Mother"!!!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(at Fenway I mean)

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it's to balance out the paterfamilias vibe to this rivalry. Reverse the curse.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That was a strike from Foulke, too. What more do you want as a hitter than that.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't "Mother" Foulke's song?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

dude you do realize a strike has to be over the plate???

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i was just pulling your legs about matsui btw

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Between innings music update: "Sweet Caroline" singalong at Fenway.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Matsui has come like thatclose to getting on base every single time he's beena at the plate. It's just stunning.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax how you like the Pepsi commercial they show? the one on the beach?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

or are you at the game?? :0

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

all over batter-sea...

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am at work! "Watching" via:

Fox offers free live Diamond Cam Stream

Don't you wish the Sox had 2 David Ortiz's?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck, tornado watch in the area. I may have to shut down for a while.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

pussy.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Gordon's arm is about to fall off.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we now see Dave Roberts please?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

this all reminds me of...something. i think it was a bad dream i had last night.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok good.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha xpost

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not into Nixon right here. Ellis Burks!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Colemanballs: "This game seems frozen in time right now. But it feels like it's running a million miles an hour."

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Gordon's arm is a piece of gelatinous spam-flavoured substance.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

This may go to extra innings...

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any doubt that Johnny Damon has to come alive?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/tornado.jpg

Just changed from tornado watch to tornado warning.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Bring on Pokey and Manichewitz!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK YEAH

― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

erm, good luck man. (xpost)

it's unfortunate that the big story (for the yankees) this postseason is going to be about how rivera has lost it, despite the fact that in the regular season he was as good as ever. i hope he rebounds.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Crump, where are you at? I've got family near there!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The runner wasn't Mo's.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm calling my mom right now! Dude that's crazy!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Amory — halfway between Tupelo and Columbus. A twister went through Tishomingo County earlier today (northeasternmost county in MS).

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

God's going to fuck every Republican-voting state in the skull until they get the message.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to see the pitcher that can save a one-run lead with a runner on third and no outs in the 8th inning. PLease. Rivera hasn't lost a thing.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

stitch it's still a blown save, which means mo's 2004 playoff BSes = or > mo's 1996-2003 playoff BSes

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it'll still be fodder for unseasonably bored NY journos

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok, I've got family in Oxford, Greenwood, Grenada and Eupora... My mom's not answering, weird. Thanks for the heads up.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Fenway NP:

Rush - "Tom Sawyer"

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think we're in the trailing edge of all this. If they haven't gotten got, they aint gonna get got. Not tonight.

If I'm still posting after 8:15 central time, I didn't get got.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Other game is starting on FX, btw.

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

dear god.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy crap the Sox are getting lucky now.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Manny or someone had better hit the ball out in the bottom of the inning because I've got a feeling the Sox can't last much longer with the dregs of their bullpen from the 10th onward.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Ibid.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(that was about Johnny Damon coming alive, but it goes for the pitching situation too)

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The leading lady busts loose.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

MIR, do you have any idea what the yankees have to offer?

xpost johnny damon coming alive by...suddenly being able to run really fast!!

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Appalling.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaaHA

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

And in a matter of minutes, Damon actually gets on against Mo and the entire BoSox starting corps is in the pen.

FUCK and I wrote that just as Damon got thrown out.

So I'm back to hoping that Manny hits it out.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are they arguing about whether or not Damon beat the tag when he came off the bag afterward?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 October 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like I'm on some strange drug.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

no way i'm watching this AB.

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Can someone explain the logic in having Damon run?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S ALL GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG he so swung

(i lied)

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

oh thank god

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yanks win or lose it right here folks

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

steal second, advance to third on the next out, sac fly with one out, I assume

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

1147 pitches in the three Boston games! Holy fuck!!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

btw stitch i'm loving the ambiguity there

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

But isn't Damon a pretty shitty runner? And Posada a pretty tough guy to steal on?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

damon is vv fast, posada has a so-so arm

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Damon's SB totals from 1999-2004: 36, 46, 27, 31, 30, 19

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, thanks for the info -- the way he minces around the outfield, he looks llike one of those fragile types with 4-5 steals a year.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The HOU-STL score updates are wasting valuable screen real estate and subtracting from the drama!

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

What are they chanting at Sheff?

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

There's another game on?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

HUGE whiff.

WTG, Bronson!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

and this is, more or less, the point where i wisely gave up last night

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, we're finally seeing why Arroyo was Boston's #3 starter.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Brandon Backe with an unbelievable PERFECT GAME through 2 full innings. 3 strikeouts, nothing is gonna stop him tonight. Just 7 more innings to go Brandon!!!

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Felix Heredia = POWDER. KEG.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

um, ok....

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i don't really need to see this. buh-bye guys!

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Ortiz called out on a b.s. call...and Rob, you think ELo's gonna make an appearance tonight?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Perfect game through 2 = red state drama!

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, that Sheff...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, no more Arroyo? Foolish.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Myers again. I guess you gotta make lemonade when all you gots is lemons.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

After Embree, that's it for the Boston bullpen, right? It'll be Wakefield next, if we get that far.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

doza

― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Haveta say, I'm v. impressed with the Boston 'pen here.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God Embree I want to kiss you right now. Embree, Mendoza, and Foulke. Who needs anybody else? I'm still dumbfounded about not seeing Mendoza. He's been here before so many times.

John I'd be interested to hear why you don't like Mike Lupica some time. I have to admit I'm a total sucker for him.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Loaiza warming!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Freedle froop

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

2 for 18, Bellhorn, you gotta at least get the bunt down, Captain K.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's hard to imagine that he isn't actually trying to tank this entire series for the Red Sox. Deslusions of grandeur. This is bigger than you, Bellhorn.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Even better!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus fuck are the Red Sox screwing the pooch here.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ibid.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

McCarver, please, for the love of god, SHUT UP.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

If the Sox lose Francona looks like an idiot for not leaving him in. If they win it makes G-VII look a lot nicer. Like, in an alternatie universe that will never never never actually happen. Maybe Sox hitters should trying batting with a hockey stick.

xpost: SO GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT FOOL. Although Sutcliffe gives him a run for his money.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm dying here.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone else getting tired of Jeter's manly fist pumps at the end of each inning?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That's why he wears the C

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Sox refuse to win

Did you see Jeter yell "Out!!!!" when he caught that pop up? He's such a drama queen.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Brutal, Manny. Just brutal.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, there is a no hitter going on in the other game

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict the NL game will finish before this one does...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That's why the Sox have to end this NOW so that we can watch it.
(xpost)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The game will end with one team forfeiting in exhaustation

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

HIT IT OUT AGAIN PAPI!!

(12th inning homers in back to back games)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

HIT IT OUT AGAIN MIENTKEWCZCXZVSTWCZ!!

WHAT THE FLYING FUCKKKKKKKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKC??????

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ortiz running, another brilliant move

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Another shit call at second. Christ.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Blown call or not, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what sucks? We're going to see "Mr. October" and his acrobatic non-tag from now 'til the sun burns out.

FUCK.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ortiz was safe, no doubt about it, but that was a hell of a leap by Jeter to keep that ball out of center field.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict the Yanks put it away this inning. The Red Sox have had their shots.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor Mirabelli is trying to perform surgery with his hands in his mitt.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

WOmack breaks up the no-no...

― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Varitek, duh!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, he escaped three passed balls...

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

God, that was an unbeliebable inning! I thought Varitek alone was going to give up theh ghost.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to a gig tonight, I have to leave soon HIT THE BALL OUT MUELLER!!!!!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The game will still be going on when you get back

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I flipped over to the NLCS during the break -- it looks like they're playing in a tanning booth.

― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never been so nervous about a guy's pitching when he's been pitching so well. (i.e. the passed balls)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

*Yawn*. Seriously, Manny, Johnny, Bill...you can wrap this one up anytime you want to.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, the Astros/Cardinals game is on Channel 248 here. I've never, ever tuned into Channel 248.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Mark Bellhorn struck out!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

At least the umpiring has been poor going both ways...that was no ball 4.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Mark Bellhorn struck out!

No way!!!

― ojitarian (ojitarian), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Damon better not attempt to steal again

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone is too tired to hit anything at the moment

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

c'mon, Manny.

JUST TAKE ONE DIP AND END IT.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, the other game is in the 8th inning.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like Redd Foxx on Sanford & Son...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK YES, THANK YOU BABY JESUS!

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

THANK YOU PAPI!!!!!!!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

SUCK THAT

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Earth to Gygax, did you get ahold of your family? Everything here is still in black and white and my little dog Toto is right here, so situation normal.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

enjoy it while it lasts ... for tomorrow night it's at yankee stadium, and it'll be ...

TASTE THE CAPITALISM BOSTON BITCHES time!!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You said that last night.

Look what happened.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

in the interests of good sportsmanship ... hats off to David Ortiz. he deserves it.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

too much oiveying. Me and my across-the-street neighbor and his kitties knew the Sox would pull it out.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, great game!

And yes, Mr. Crumple, I got a voicemail stating that all was fine in northcentral MS.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Ortiz has been a monster, but this ends tonight in New York. What's the story with Schilling's ankle?

Did I really see Ortiz try to steal a base tonight? He was safe, but still, what the hell is Francona thinking there?

― Shaun (shaun), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

MINDFUCKERY

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

TWO

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Reebok custom-made Schilling a shoe that will provide him all the ankle support in the right places and allow the shoe to flex in a way that his old shoe wouldn't. Schilling's bullpen session yesterday went very well according to scouts.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

apparentl they were chanting Who's Your Dealer to Sheff.

― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahaha snap

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

aaargh.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

As Al Leiter said at the 3-inning 2-hour mark on Saturday,"Welcome to American League baseball." Or the Ring Cycle (with worse music).

I feel certain we're gonna see a position player get a save before this is over. Or an arm fall off.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ this is killing me again. I haven't slept in a week. If Papi doesn't get the MVP this year.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

can you imagine if that game had started at 8:10 instead of 5:10?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i started watching at 10pm GMT, couldn't stay up.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Final tally on the three Boston games:
35 pitchers (not different pitchers, obv)
1299 pitches (!!!)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Although only Lieber and Schilling didn't pitch during those games, so it was literally about 20 different pitchers.

[ADMIN: Thread locked, go here for part 2: Rolling NYY - BOS 2004 ALCS thread part 2 ]

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston in 7, maximum dramah.

-- the leglo (i...), October 11th, 2004 8:20 AM.
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i don't need anymore fuckin dramah.

-- Velveteen Bingo (formerlypoopsmcge...), October 11th, 2004 9:15 AM.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 22 October 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I called it. Sox in 4. Didn't say nothin' about them losing three games first.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Friday, 22 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

w00t!

i think i'm going to retire from predicting while i'm on top...

― the leglo (the leglo), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of thread lock is this?

[ADMIN: Thread locked, go here for part 2: Rolling NYY - BOS 2004 ALCS thread part 2 ]

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 22 October 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

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