Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

Hey, I don't think I've seen the reprise. There's a reason to live! Assume everyone has seen the reference at How To Dance Properly

Otherwise, what Mitch said.

Any hot chicks out there want to get bisy just let me know. I got it all . They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies. And that ain't dirt in my eye.

Larry

I thought this said "...and with all my nipples". I have no clue why or what that could possibly imply but that's much better than what that said.

The Simpsons, conversely, are classic.

Also, Jerry's millions got him that 17 y.o. honey (who ended up dumping his ass, btw). Not the trainers. No way was it the trainers. Please god tell me it wasn't the trainers.

Elaine had the best hair ever in the later series.

Anyway, I want to hate this show, it's the type of cultural phenomenon that normally annoys me, but every time I stumble across a rerun I end up watching it and having some good laffs. Last night I saw the one where Elaine dates a mover but breaks up with him because of his stance on abortion. And George invites himself over to a family's house to watch their rented copy of Breakfast at Tiffany's because he didn't read the book for his study group. It was funny. I'll say classic.

BBC2 didin't treat these shows like the comedy gold they were (sticking them late evening etc WTF?!) whereas crap like friends and will and grace get prime time on C4 (OK the former was funny for the first two series).

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I HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO ROCK YET!

I'm afraid of you.

George Constanza is a brilliant character. A recognizable, even sympathetic monster.

Witness this and this. As well as this, once in a while.

Also, I'm fairly sure I would love Larry Sanders, but I've never seen it because of the stupid fucking BBC.

But I do think it's a great show, and sometimes ridiculously funny. And I think the "nihilism" (but it's not that - it's a sympathetic portrait of failed humanity) is what makes it great. Curb Your Enthusiasm does this too, but too much so - we need some real humor and niceness along with the nasty stuff. Also, the particularly New York voice of the show. Complaining about the hackneyed plot lines is like complaining that Buffy has to kill a vampire every week (well, ok, maybe there's something to that).

It's not my personal favorite tv show - I like sentimental, yuppie-sensibility stuff like Mad About You and Northern Exposure, which I won't make greatness claims for. And It's not the greatest tv show ever - whatever that is, it's probably not a sitcom - but I think a good argument can be made for best sitcom of the last 25 years

I totally disagree with this. I've come to HATE the basic attitude of Seinfeld - I watch it every night, it's the only thing on TV in New Zealand - and Jerry's whole, 'My parents love me, aren't I adorable, you all love me, and I'm just gonna be a fucking bastard because I can' thing is really wearying after a while. Seinfeld doesn't even break a sweat. He's always as cool as a cucumber, looking at everyone else - looking at girls - and the sneer is never too far away. Larry David seems much humbler - he can hardly bear to look anyone else in the face, let alone laugh AT them. This makes 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' seem much, much nicer to me.

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I am so happy that I am not one of Jerry Seinfeld's children. What a horrible life to have to lead

I'm one of Jerry Seinfeld's children.

Son of Seinfeld

What if Seinfeld starred Michael Madson and James Spader...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpqwjv615U

that pilot invents seinfeld AND reservoir dogs at the very same time.

jerry and paul must have been separated at birth. they are so close. paul was so fast! i forgot his quickness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8z5vINHuE

I do not remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucM7ANXARc

oh wait nevermind. I need to eat lunch.

"A BIIIIG salad!"

Origin of Christmas Nipple---longsplains, so I'll lift the gist:

"The Pick" is based on a real-life incident. Reality is the formation for many Seinfeld episodes, and the world around it...So it should really come as no surprise that what happened to Elaine also happened to a Seinfeld writer. Marc Jaffe, who began working on Seinfeld in the very first season, told the story in 2021 on Seinfeld - This Podcast Is Making Me Thirty, about what happened to cause him to pitch the idea for "The Pick." Jaffe's brother-in-law was taking pictures on Christmas morning with his one-year-old daughter in front of the fireplace. It resulted in a nice looking photo except for one flaw. The guy's robe wasn't tied correctly, which led to him accidentally exposing himself in the photo. "The stocking was hung," as Jaffe put it. He sent it out to his entire family, but it was Jaffe's wife who finally noticed the wardrobe malfunction.
...Jaffe then pitched what had happened to Larry David, but that created an obstacle. Jaffe told the podcast, "It was gonna be too much if it was Jerry in that kind of situation for network television," so they gave the idea to Elaine's character instead and made it her nipple. There were some weird '90s network TV rules, with it not being okay to have a man accidentally expose his member, but it was acceptable for a woman to unknowingly expose her nipple.

Been re-watching this, kind of bouncing around between seasons. It’s kind of wild how dark the show here and there.

Kramer goes to LA and meets an aspiring actress and she winds up getting killed by a serial killer and because she has Kramer’s script “on her person” he winds up getting pulled in by the cops.

Elaine has this whole arc of episodes where she’s dating a creepy psychiatrist and that leads right into her dating Crazy Joe Davola. It’s a miracle those episodes aren’t even creepier, but I think that’s due to JLD’s performance.

I've never really got the Crazy Joe Davola storyline -- it seems like he gets talked about more than he is actually on screen.

season 4 is the GOAT but the kramer in LA episodes are the weirdest and most incongruent in the whole show

I think I've mentioned this before but the Crazy Joe Davola actor was perhaps a little too good at his role, it feels like he's from another show entirely. tbh I've also felt that way about Susan, she's got sort of that Patricia Heaton vibe to her, good actress but maybe not right for this show

I rewatched them recently because they still felt so unfamiliar and surprising in the context of the Seinverse

I think Todd Phillips stole the story arc for Joker from the Crazy Joe episodes. I don’t actually know how many episodes he was in, but I think it was three at most.

Yesterday I proclaimed that "I'm Frank Costanza's lawyer!" might be, for me, the funniest single line in scripted TV comedy

cosign

really speaks to how good this show was at recognizing the humor in any given situation, this is where they go above and beyond imo

Crazy Joe Davola storyline is the best. Sic semper tyrannis!

It’s hard to narrow down the funniest lines for me, but “I go out for a quart of milk. I come home to my son treating his body like it was an amusement park” is up there.

Stephen McHattie as the creepy psychiatrist boyfriend “svenjooli” was also arguably too good a performance as a domineering mentally abusive type. He was also so good as one of the two spree killers at the beginning of a history of violence.

funniest moment to me is probably when Jerry is in the confessional booth (to complain about Tim Whatley making Jewish jokes) and at the end George just randomly pops in and says "Jerry I gotta talk to you"

I go out for a quart of milk. I come home to my son treating his body like it was an amusement park

this line is so hilarious on it's own but her delivery is next level.

Favorite line is Elaine's "IT'S VEGETABLE LASAGNA"

"More money... so, that's your cousin!"

lol, I'd forgotten about Cousin Jeffrey's "edible foliage tour" of Central Park.

I do like that "Curb Your Enthusiasm" has, in addition to being a great show on its own, caused me to view Seinfeld from a new perspective of heightened appreciation, and I already loved it to begin with