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'little britain' isn't in the same game, let alone the same ballpark.

this is what i've been trying to say. the workings of, say, 'brass eye' are incalculably more interesting than the dumb-as-shit plodding idiocy of LB. to compare the two is futile.

answer to steve's question: Bill Bailey

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

i am not comparing the two i am just saying one was less likely to have happened without the other.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, yes, but that in itself is an acknowledgement of artistic lineage and therefore an indirect comparison (or, to be fairer, it's a proposition that automatically invites comparison). Personally I think that if anything un-PC television became MORE of a risk after the BE paedophile special, and the outrage it engendered.

still the greatest (if you bear in mind its importance and the effect it had as well as its quality) single episode of television there has ever been.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

LB's off-beam Tom Baker narrations are right out of Lee and Herring's "Lionel Nimrod". LN featured Tom Baker introducing the show as an omniscient narrator who spouted nonsense. hmmm

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

BES wasn't un PC it's most vocal supporters were all liberals!

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

well, the best kind of un-PC is liberal un-PC! :-D

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

what is fundementally wrong with political correctness?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

When people misinterpret its well-meaning essence and use it to excuse their own self-serving bullshit (see: most news stations, hence CM's parodies).

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

isnt morris generally parodying the simplification and hyperbole of news media rather than attacking PC perse. maybe rosie may is an attack on evironmentalism but it's probably more just that it is quite funny to put a beard on Rebecca Front.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, he's attacking sensationalism (and having a right good laugh at the same time), but he's also skewering a certain, cloying sort of hush-hush political correctness.

"These images were deemed too shocking to show. That we do so tonight is only with the proviso..."

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

surely that's daily mail prudishness rather than PC?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I don't think the softly-softly ignore-it-and-it-disappears approach is typical of the Daily Mail, more the entire televisual media. Chris Morris isn't attacking one thing here anyway; he's savaging everything he hates, despises or finds amusing about the world of news reporting. Which amounts to quite a lot, in fact!

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

I just think throwing the term PC around, especially in the sense of celebrating something being un PC exactly shows up the route that has taken us from morris to little britain

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

also
The existence of PC has been alleged and denounced by conservative, (Lind, Buchanan, Sobran), liberal (Hentoff 1992, Schlesinger 1998), and other (Brandt 1992) authors. Its existence, however, is hotly contested. Some left-wing authors (Messer-Davidow 1993, Schultz 1993, Glassner 1999) have argued that "political correctness" is a straw man, meant to discredit what they consider progressive social change, especially around issues of race and gender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#History

hey it's wikipedia but y know...

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

I have just watched my first ever episode of Harry Hill's TV Burp. I have never really liked Harry Hill, and my opinion hasn't changed as a result. Also, blacking up (crap sketch based on Dev from Coronation Street in the style of Morecambe and Wise making breakfast).

Dumb comedy = Not Going Out. An entire show based around the premise of using as much of Lee Mack's standup (generally unfunny) and Tim Vine's standup (hit and miss, usually fairly amusing) routines and then fashioning a ridiculously bad plot around them. Basically, it is extremely shite, but can also raise a giggle. But you'd be better watching Tim Vine doing stand-up rather than Tim Vine shoe-horning his stand-up into a ludicrous domestic sitcom.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dirkgently1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/harry.jpg

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

that image signifies wrongness.

"tabby cat - can live with that
if it's leopardy - you're in jeopardy
except you know it doesn't actually work in the southern hemisphere..."

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

TV Burp made me cry with laughter as usual. Blacking up probably a bad idea tho. Ken Barlow as a ventriloquist's dummy is priceless.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

i finally watched the Hill Xmas TV Burp last night and haven't roffled at anything that much for some time. this blacking up thing sounds wrong tho (saw some of last night's show but missed this).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

I guess he'd argue that it was just part of his Dev impersonation, but however you look at it, he was getting roffles from the fact of blacking up.

I missed the Xmas ep :(

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that was good (Ken as dummy). I don't know what I was expecting TV Burp to be, but that wasn't it. Perhaps it would be better if (1) you mentalists hadn't made it out to be the greatest thing ever and (2) I didn't want to punch Harry Hill in the face every time he opens his mouth. Or does his hyuk hyuk face, in fact.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

It is the best thing ever tho! The funniest, anyway. I guess hating HH's persona is a big stumbling block to getting full enjoyment. ;__;

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

And I would have been very unlikely to see that woman who dressed her daughter up as a Doctor Who monster if not for TVB.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

re: the blacking up. i did go "eh?" but he dresses up as women if he's being deidre or janice battersby. i'm not sure the laugh was not 'cos he was in black face but because he was in dev's place.

so uh Shilpa Fuckawillah or Shilpa Poppadum for the next series of Little Britian?

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

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i think the laugh was not 'cos he was in black face perse but because he was in dev's place being silly.

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

I can see that. It's a very iffy line to walk though, and this was probably not the best week, TV-wise, to do it.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Noodle Vague OTM, also Dev has enough overstated mannerisms that you could convey the essence of Dev (stupid hair, ridiculous enunciation) without going "wooh, he's not white".

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

i like 'tv burp', probably in a slightly unusual way in that i don't watch any other itv shows. it works anyway but even still. re blakcing up, i don't think it's wrong in all circumstances, but the pretext was a bit flimsy here, no?

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

I like TV Burp, it is good. Although it suffers from a lack of Club Reps these days.

There was a new comedy series on BBC 3 last night called Thieves Like Us. I could not really pay attention as I was engaged in conversation, but it featured the Goldie lookalike from The Smoking Room. Perhaps we can see a BBC 3 mafia beginning to form, what with the rise and rise of Myfanwy off Little Britain, etc.

Anyway, was this programme any good? It involved nicking tellies, like on Max and Paddy.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

TV Burp's a lot funnier than it should be. I mean, Harry Hill dicking around for half an hour while channel hopping sia simple enough concept, but it gets the roffles from me, thanks UKn0v@!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sure HH has done skits as dev before. and in the same style

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

To be honest, not blacking up would have just left a massive elephant in the room. The laffs come from Harry Hill doing a bad impression of someone, and not blacking up per se. I want to live in a world where people can black up for comedy skits and it not be a problem.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/pokey34_1.gif

http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/pokey34_2.gif

http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/pokey34_3.gif

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Reeves & Mortimer did it relatively well on occasion (the Lethal Weapon pisstake on Shooting Stars with Bob as Danny Glover = lololololol) altho they did tend to get a few complaints in the process (esp. for the Otis Redding & Marvin Gaye stuff on The Smell Of...to the extent where they had to do it without the make-up in the end).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Bob as Mick off Brookside

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Josie Long earlier this week... and I liked it.
I suspect a few of you may have opinions about her.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

She's one of the scriptwriters for Skins, y'know?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

'the thick of it' will have another one-off in the summer.

josie doesn't strike me as being any different from anyone else with a myspace page and a wry, mildly self-deprecating sense of humour.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

Yup, her and Simon Amstell have written for 'Skins'. I guess we'll notice her contributions when one of the characters says 'You know when you're walking down the street? I love that!'. Amstell's involvement is odd - isn't 'Skins' the kind of thing he just ADORES slagging off?

And Ms Long is anything but wry. It was like being in a room with an overexcited hippie. I'm not doing a good job of explaining why I liked her show, am I?

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps Amstell has hidden depths. Next person to see him at the bus stop should ask him.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

A friend of mine claims to have twice seen Simon Amstell walking around with a woman and two small children, and wonders if perhaps he's a closeted heterosexual.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

gay man... walking around with a woman... could never happen.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

sophieheawood.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Got to admit, I thought him presenting 'Never Mind The Buzzcocks' would be awful, but it was....OK.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

Cleo hopes to be next Catherine Tate

Cleo has admitted that she is hoping for her own sketch show following her stint in the Celebrity Big Brother house.

The actress wants to follow in the footsteps of Catherine Tate after introducing the nation to some of her characters over the past three weeks.

"I'd love to launch a new comedy show with really wacky characters, like a cross between Little Britain and Catherine Tate. I think the time is right for something new," Cleo told the Daily Star last night.

"The characters I brought in with me - like Tiara the Tart and Dorothy Montgomery the biscuit tycoon's wife - were done deliberately because I was hoping there was a producer out there looking for new ideas."

Asked about failing to make Big Brother laugh in the comedy task, she added: "That was embarrassing. I died on my a**e in the Diary Room. I think they stitched me up. I was certainly funnier than some of the others."

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 27 January 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

also ITV launches Benidorm with Johnny Vegas on Thurdays. the new Hardware?

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 27 January 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

We did a thread about Josie Long, which, as so many threads do, turned into a thread about Louis Jagger.

Defend the indefensible: Josie Long

I'd love to launch a new comedy show with really wacky characters, like a cross between Little Britain and Catherine Tate. I think the time is right for something new

Does anyone see anything wrong with this? Also anyone who uses the word "wacky" as an aspirational concept tends to not be worth listening to.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 27 January 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks for the link, Ailsa.

A cross between Little Britain and Catherine Tate would, to paraphrase Stuart Braithwaite, implode with pure evil.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Saturday, 27 January 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I just read that thread and it appears that Ms Long went to a summer camp for gifted children with Louis Jagger. There's probably a joke in there somewhere, but I'm not mean enough to make it - this is why I'd never cut it as a poster on CookdAndBombd.

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Saturday, 27 January 2007 23:42 (eighteen years ago)

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