This is SHOUTING-for-MODERATOR thread pt. III!! [derailed: go to thread IV]

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Moderator, PLEASE REMOVE other posters' guesses at the identity of Person X on this thread: Let's talk about houseguests.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bump, as I see it hasn't been done yet.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, you could start with giving a good reason why a non-abusive post by someone else should be altered at your request.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because it is invasive and I wish for the parties involved to remain anonymous. If the person so name-checked were not a poster on ILX, it would be done under those circumstances.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

How much more invasive than discussing their sleeping habits in public? If you wanted it anonymous, you should have started an anonymous thread.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

You are a cunt.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

The reason that I did not give their names is, as usual, because I wanted people's *honest* thoughts on the matter, not coloured by their impressions and prejudices about the people in question. I have no desire to incur the wrath of the Momus fanclub for asking how much advance warning should be given by impending houseguests.

Yeah, on second thought, maybe I SHOULD have started the thread anonymously, but I guess I gave other ILE posters too much credit to be able to discuss things without letting them turn into a childish guessing game.

And you're still a cunt.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, fair cop.

A partial defense is that when I posted the name again, I didn't realise that the earlier instances had been sanitised. So now I invite a mod to sanitise the name again form my post.

Though yeah, fair cop.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I posted this on that thread, but I think it should go here too:

I really think that if someone's going to modify somebody else's post, it's a good idea to let them know that. I've had a couple posts myseriously disappear over the past few days with no explanation whatsoever, and I think that's totally creepy and out-of-line (plus if I did something wrong I'd like to know so I won't do it again).

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Andrew Farrell is worse than Hitler.

Since I was moderated can I ask who moderated me and why. You may do this in a personal e-mail if you do not wish to have this discussion on this board.

It doesn't bother me either way, but it would be useful for future reference to know whether unsubstantiated speculation on the identity of people who are being talked about in a pointedly specifically generalised manner should be barred. Cos as was also said on that thread, a number of people were thinking the same as me and hence the anonymity was neither here nor there.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is ridiculous.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate, in all fairness, I don't see what else you expected to happen there? Why bother talking about it at all, I don't think this is really a fair request, unless the poster "REVEALED!" decides to ask for it to be deleted. I mean, don't you think the people in question would've figured it out anyway if they read it?

But also I'm not a mod and I really don't care and I didn't read the thread, so take with a grain of salt!

hstencil, I know the reason why one of your posts was deleted. OOOOOO OOOOO OOOOO (that's supposed to be creepy music), I'll email you the explanation of one.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

If someone is talking about "Person X" rather than using your name, you can probably assume that they are using a pseudonym FOR A REASON. If I wanted to discuss a person in particular, I would use their name. I wanted to discuss a situation in the abstract, rather than the personal specifics.

Didn't we have this discussion earlier when talking about "JonBennet Rammstein" and other regulars posting anonymously who forgot to log out?

If someone wishes to protect the identity of a person they are discussing, other people should know enough to follow suit, even if they've "already guessed" - respect the poster's wishes and keep it to yourself.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pete - clicking the Show All Details link will let you know which moderators changed which post.

Dastoor and Sinker you two are worse than Hitler.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree, but Kate, isn't it up to Poster X to complain about it?

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dastoor and Sinker you two are worse than Hitler.

but not as bad as the cunt farrell;)

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry, kate. Even though I didn't mention the person by name, I think I contributed to this. I apologize, I can totally understand where you're coming from.

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like I said, Ally, my reason for asking was because I wanted people to discuss the issue IN THE ABSTRACT.

There is a difference between asking "how do you handle a situation between you, your housemate and a third party?" and starting a thread going "MOMUS HAS MOVED ONTO MY COUCH AND WILL NOT LEEEEEAAAAVE!!!" Some people on this board would cream themselves at the thought of having Momus on their couch all the time, some people would deliberately bar the windows and doors at his very approach. I didn't want another goddamn Momus thread, I wanted a discussion of what was considered acceptible behaviour with regards to housemates and houseguests. End of story.

I'm sorry I started the thread. I'm sorry that I asked to have people's names removed. I'm beginning to be sorry that I ever went on this board this morning in the first place.

kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Even if people hadn't named names, anyone reading it would still know who the people involved are, if that's going to be in their minds and affect the advice they give then there's not much you can do about it. You can't moderate what people are thinking. I hope. I don't think it's fair to accuse people who do this of being immature.)

Emma, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone please delete all of Kate's posts ever? They annoy me, and my annoyance could lead to anger, and my anger could lead to offending perfectly innocent third parties who want nothing to do with this Interweb nonsense. And some of these third parties are famous, and some of you creeps are just dying to get into their business.

Thanks in advance!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

this is the only entertaining thread on ile this morning

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

arrgh everyone hates me. Who'd be a moderator etc.

I didn't really think that carefully before accepting Kate's request, I guess. Though I did/do think that the request is a bit odd, seeing as most people on ILE know that suzy and kate (and ed?) live together anyway. It wasn't like Pete had any insider knowledge. But does is it a really important censorship from your point of view either, Pete?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I blame hstencil. Damn, too slow!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

this is the only entertaining thread on ile this morning

b-b-but, cyril the swan?

:(

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dastoor and Sinker you two are worse than Hitler.

Add me to that list, Im just a slower Hitler.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Makes me look like less of a smartarse and that damages my cause.

I'm thinking thin ends of wedges here thats all. And I'm getting that prickly sensation I used to get at school when I'm getting told off for something even though I don't think I did anything wrong. (Often that was hitting bullies with chairs at school, which in later life I have accepted was wrong so I daresay this will come out to shame me in the long run too).

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

To anyone who is curious, the answer is elsewhere on the internet anyway.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That Eric Clapton! Always turning up uninvited!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's Kate Bush you idiot!

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Whatever N, get outside your box man, don't let those stars cloud your judgement.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, it could be Clapton but let's just say I'm confident it's Bush.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think kate's request was reasonable

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

In retrospect I think it was too.

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't, but may need to think about it more.

Who is Person X?

Who Is Person Y?

Everyone knows Kid Dracula will let JFK kip on the couch whenever he wants to. Freaky undeads.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone else feel tacitly sucked into someone elses minidrama here?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm more alarmed that Kate said Momus might be coming to sleep on my couch if I don't deadbolt the doors!

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

ilx: tacitly sucked into someone elses minidrama

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone else feel tacitly sucked into someone elses minidrama here?

Yes. I think it was unfair to Person X to start the thread in the first place, since the person who started the thread knew very well that everyone would know who she was talking about.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes ronan: i feel that pete demanded to know WHICH moderator violated his post purely so that he could get up in between 12-ft-Lizard solidarity and cause manipulative mischief by setting the cabal against itself

THIS BEHAVIOUR WILL NOT STAND! Our infinite INTRA-SAURIAN LOVE is as indivisible as our scaly flesh.

That is all.

dawnie (mark s), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not that this affects me in any way beyond enjoyment of idle gossip, but how does the fact that Person X had already been explicitly identified - as I pointed out on the thread in question - by Kate's roommate on another thread affect the decision to moderate?

chester (synkro), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is all a completely ludicrous fuss over nothing. Get some perspective people.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mark S. killed Miss Kitty Fantastico!

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

further to previous post:

BE IT KNOWN that in dodeca-sauria no distinctions are made between
i. in/out of bed
ii. guests/hosts
iii. parasites/hosts
iv. clients/prey

All decisions are made on this basis.

That is all/It never ends.

dawnie (mark s), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.ronaldstory.com/mothma3.jpg

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mark you forgot:

v. "Earshot"/"Hush"

chester (synkro), Thursday, 15 May 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

1/ This is what happens when I take a day off from posting

2/ I think Kate’s request was reasonable, and I most likely would have carried out said request had I been online @ thee time. I think it’s a simple matter of good manners and common something-or-other, if someone posts in thee abstrackt in such a manner, to respect that, like do as you would be done by or something. You can always go on abt it on AIM if you want to. Reading this, please bear in mind that I am a horrible prissy old fuck who complains about children swearing loudly on publick transport, and I am in fact mary whitehouse/h1tl3r who only likes it in thee “missionary position” w/thee lights out (© C*l*m R.W. 2003)

3/ I would cream myself if m*m*s were to sleep on my sofa.

4/ k8 rulz fuk all yuo h@t@z

4a/ However, if kate’s (or anyone else’s) threads annoy you, do not read them. I have recently taken to ignoring threads by annoying poster, and it makes me happier, and also it makes ilx into a more pleasurable experience, or something..

5/ In all seriousness (and I think mark s offered this as well) if you want to post anonymously in a similar manner, and you don’t want this kind of thing, email your question to me, “moderator pashmina”, and I will post it for you, devoid ov any identifying data. Downsides=
a/you will have to trust me not to blab or be a mentalist or fukc up. (I won’t, but obv I would say that, wouldn’t I? I won’t though, yea verily not even on AIM)
b/I generally tend to be online only between 7pm and 2am GMT, so I am rub if you want a quick answer (unless you think of a q between thee hours noted above)
c/ I will not forward snarky personal attax, or creepy stalky stuff on ilx posters. If you send me creepy stalky stuff, I will kill-file you.
d/ do not use terms “viagra” “penis” “teen” “hgh” “own boss” “lose weight” in yr mail title or my phancy new message rule will backhand it into thee wastebasket

Obv, you may not wish to take advantage of this offer, and that’s ok, b/c I quite understand why you might not wish to send sensitive info to some div who you have never met before, but it’s there if you want it.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stalker alert. Immediate moderator attention requested.

Let's Build an ILM Poster!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 16 May 2003 05:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's gone. ugh, fucking creepiness.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank you.

(Hope the IP address was logged as well)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I forwarded thee ip log to the moderators yahoo group.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:38 (twenty-one years ago) link


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