Everybody in the bank line knows, I've got a crush on the new teller...

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This is the thread where we talk about those superficial irrational crushes that make the world oh so wonderful...

The new teller, the girl at the supermarket checkout, coffeeshop boy, cute waitress, bartenders, studio staff, and oh, that adorable soundman at the Toynbee Hall Arts Cafe...

You know nothing about them, except maybe their name, you'll never work up the courage to actually talk to them in any depth (nor would you really want to?) but you'll habitually patronise their establishment in the hopes of seeing them.

What's the furthest you've gone in the pursuit of getting just one smile from the object of your crush?

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

grocery store checkout girl, i love you

chaki (chaki), Friday, 10 January 2003 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah I had a dream about this. I was in a club which was the downstairs bar of EVERY SINGLE PUB I HAVE BEEN TO EVER ALL AT ONCE - shaped mostly like upstairs at the Rupert St Blue Posts but darker due to undergroundness and the DJ was very cute! Ok he was an almaganation of every silky haired smart indie-esque boy who I have crushes on but never fancy me and are probably tosspots anyway but fneh, my dream my psyche. Anyway he was playing some records and occasionally LOOKED AT ME then I look over the corner and SHOCK HORROR O NO!!! There is Sophie Ellis-Bextor in a red dress!

She looks so glam, I think, I am never going to catch the eye of cute boy! SEB is being a total flirtslut but I still think he notices me more!!!

Then I go to the bar and he stops playing records.

HOORAY NOW I WILL TALK TO HIM!!!

I turn to see him sitting in the corner with another girl. She conforms to the indie girl stereotype in another way ie dark haired bob with purple bits (er, ok that is ME TOO hooray) but looks THE PARTY and OH NO!! Indie boy is with totally indie girl!! I decide to sit down, and the club, which up until then had only me, indieboy and SEB there is now full apart from a seat next to the couple.

I take it, whilst shouting across the room to my friend that Shiny McWhiny is a "beeyotch".

Indieboy turns to me and says "it's beeyatch!"

I say "Sorry, I've been hanging out on the west coast too long!" tee hee GIGGLE GIGGLE ect

He turns around to talk to me and....

AND....


BANG!

I WAKE UP and now I will NEVER KNOW.

Mostly the furthest I go to pursue a crush is to the BAR to order more GIN so I either
a) have nerve to say hello
b) have nerve to smile
c) fall over
d) puke
e) fall over and puke (hahaha)

I have had two boyfriends and looking back on my life am quite frankly AMAZED.

Sarah (starry), Friday, 10 January 2003 10:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh god, every thought in the world has already been thought, every post in the world has already been posted. Moderator, please delete this thread....

Oh wait, someone else has posted to it, never mind. Carry on, we'll have our OWN thread, cause that other thread is all boys perving on girls. This shall be girls perving on boys.

He has a name so pretty that it's silly.

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 10:35 (twenty-three years ago)

can we have girls perving about girls too? ;-)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 January 2003 10:39 (twenty-three years ago)

it just reminded me of the old thread sorry

chaki (chaki), Friday, 10 January 2003 10:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, go ahead, Caitlin. This will be an all-girls perving on their crushes thread, hooray!

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

sound*man* at the Toynbee Hall? You mean they've got rid of that useless woman who spent most of her time irritating punters as she constantly traipsed between her "desk" and the center of the floor. About time too, she was useless.

chris (chris), Friday, 10 January 2003 10:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, it's Pliny from Tarkus and FoXoR now. Or maybe he only does T&F shows, but I swear, he was doing sound at a non-T&F show. He's extremely good.

And it's so pathetic because I only ever work up the courage to talk to him when I'm so drunk I can't stand, so therefore he thinks I'm a freak and is scared of me.

I always get crushes on soundmen. Well... when they're young and good-looking, not the scary ones with beards and Zildjian t-shirts. It's cause my dad was a soundman, girls always get crushes on guys just like their dads. (I suppose it's better that I fixate on soundmen than on computer programmers or Labour party councillors...)

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 10:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Hm, well some of you know all about my library crush girl, who shows no sign of getting less cute even now I'm engaged. Bitch.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 10 January 2003 11:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Are there degrees of crush-hood? Like...

1) Obsessional Crushes that you think about all the time and pervade your every waking thought
2) Pick-Me-Up Crushes you think about occasionally when you need a quick mood enhancer
3) Situational Crushes you only ever remember when you're in the situation, i.e., you go to a shop and suddenly remember "Oh, yeah, that cute boy works here..."

My god, I could write, like, the Illustrated Field Guide Of Crushes...

Hrmmmm... if there's ever a Lollies/Kate St.C "greatest hits" (hah!) sort of thing, it would have to be called the Illustrated Field Guide Of Crushes.

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread needs Petra.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Kate's degrees of crushes. I find that
1) Shouldn't happen too often, but can be good as it makes one all swoony and feverish and assists in weight loss (I lost about half a stone with my last obesessive-can't-stop-thinking-about-them type crush)
2) These are great fun and make me feel like a teenager. Haven't had one in a while though
3) This applies to all three of the cute boys and all one of the cute girls at university, like "Bah. Got to go to Poetry. Ooh! Handsome Nick might sit next to me....."

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Come to think of it, we have had this thread before, because I remember Petra contributing... and Ally... but I think it was just crushes in general, not talking about specific ones.

I remember talking about being terrified that crushees will find out because they would be offended or terrified (even though most people are merely flattered) because that's my usual reaction to being a crushee (unless it's ironic or iconic or ionic or bionic crush) and it has ruined several friendships for me... but. We can still talk about it...

I have had university classes where the only reason I carried on going was because of a cute boy... so I'd have done even worse at school if it wasn't for them.

But this more about random - and therefore perfect fodder for idealisation - crushes on total strangers.

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)

the girl that was in the embassy bar on sunday.

gareth (gareth), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think that people you see in a bar/on a train just once count. Unless they go to the same bar/ride the same train as you all the time. Because the kind of crush I'm talking about is the one where you can go to see the person obsessive/compulsively, it's like a willful act of crush-hood. Thoughts?

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

well, i did consider putting an 'i saw you' ad in!

gareth (gareth), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

do ILXors you haven't met count as "total" strangers? because there are several posters on whom i have crushes yet i do not even know what they look or sound like! (i fall in love with ppl through their words).

(and yes there are ILXors whose looks i do know, and some i have even met, on whom i likewise have crushes, but that's quite enough idealisation for now)

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 10 January 2003 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, boys all over my pervy girls thread...

Uuuh, yeah, I think that counts, Marcello. If you evince all the other signs of crush-hood, like getting the warm fuzzies when you see them post, and, like, checking out messages on subjects you think they'd like, to see if they're on there. Not that I've, erm, ever done anything like that on ILX.

Though, erm, that negates the random stranger-hood of the crush, doesn't it? Oh, I don't know.

Gareth, * V*ne H*ll thinks you should put in an "I Saw You" ad. This is far worthier than perving on 16 year olds from Shreeveport on LNC.com ...

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Totally retarded crush on this girl that works at the movie store, even funnier 'cause she's so completely outside of possibly being compatible with my gosh-darned weirdo Leo self, but I don't care, crushes aren't really for the fulfilling, right?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember talking about being terrified that crushees will find out because they would be offended or terrified

I always have thought that, which is why I don't think I ever talked about any crushes I had. Plus, most of my crushes last about a week and then are forgotten, so it doesn't seem worth it to say anything.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:44 (twenty-three years ago)

''Plus, most of my crushes last about a week and then are forgotten, so it doesn't seem worth it to say anything.''

yeah, same here. this week: the hairdressers' assistant (had a hair cut on tuesday).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Maaannnn... you lot are lucky. My crushes last until the Crushee does something awful to destroy the crush like do something regretable to their hair (if Pliny really didn't want me crushing on him, he would grow the country-rock mullet back) or else I'm no longer exposed to the Crushee.

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a crush on a bartender at a ar I go to all the time. He makes THE best flat whites in Melbourne & is from New Zealand. slightly hunched over but entirely gorgeous. He also has disturbing i-want-to-be-a-dj tendencies but I'm sure with the right medication they can be controlled.
He is very sweet, but is just too cool to go fo someone like me who is not a nerd simply because I don't qualify for nerd-hood because I'm nt interested in anything enough, except maybe comedy. There you go, I'm a comedy nerd. But he's just one of those people whom everyone likes.

nellie (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

the best advice I've ever gotten is to get over a crush quickly, just think of them taking a big difficult shit, with grunty noises.

nellie (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

The local university opened an incredibly posh grocery store just round the corner from my flat a few years ago, and there was a v cute girl who worked there at weekends. My crush lasted until the store closed down a few months later.

(opening a v posh expensive grocery store on the edge a council estate, when there are several dirt-cheap corner shops within a few hundred yards = not a good business move. They must have been aiming at all the rich politicians who weren't (and still aren't) there because their Parliament was (and is ) still a building site.)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I had this one MONSTROUS crush on this AMAZING girl I went to high school with, the kind that lingered long after our paths had crossed (which I assumed made it totally inappropriate and creepy), and only AFTER she got married did I learn that the whole time, my crushitude was reflected fully! CLASSIC BUMMER!!!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Was this posh grocery store in dumbidykes?

leigh (leigh), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Was this the posh grocery store in dumbiedykes?

Do you expect me to give away where I live? ;-)

(i suppose i did give a fairly obvious description though. Busted!)

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I love reading about other people's crushes, it makes me feel less sad about my own. More, please!!!

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the boy in the restaurant/bar/cafe thingy i frequent who wore an avalanches tshirt once (itis meant to be) and has a peaceful face. my dream-strategy = going in by myself and ordering two coffees and the second one is for him, shazam! i think i need better strategies.

minna (minna), Friday, 10 January 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I suppose it's better that I fixate on soundmen than on computer programmers or Labour party councillors...)
And whats wrong with computer programmers that makes them lower on the totem pole then soundmen?

But yes, the girl at the Tim Horton's back in my first few years at univesity. She used to give me stickers and her coworkers used to tease her when I came in. That crush went up in smoke when I cut cigarettes out of my life, she was a blossoming chain smoker.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 10 January 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a very innocent crush on my professor. This is the second class I've had with him now and we all sit round this little table and I feel so studious nodding intently. He's very old school acedemic and he's so articulate I think he speaks like 5 languages and I find it so charming when he goes off on little tangents, "of course when we say Leinstermen we mean the Leinsterpeople, as originally the word men did not mean specifically males, from its Indo European roots 'weir' blah blah..." Of course, his intelligence intimidates me so I don't really talk to him. But I admire him! Yesterday he asked if anyone had read At-Swim-Two-Birds and I felt I had let him down. Should've read it last summer.

Genevieve, Friday, 10 January 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

these kind of crushes are G*R*A*T*E. I think the whole point of them is that you're never going to do anything about them. I have massive crushes on loads of women who work in eating establishments I frequent.

the best was Scary Waitress, who worked in South Street in Dublin. She was italian, had her hair in mentalist plaits, and used to bully her clientele. Then she cut off her long hair and turned out to have a biker boyfriend. Borrrring.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 10 January 2003 17:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Bankcrusher Plus!

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 10 January 2003 18:42 (twenty-three years ago)

On finding that this thread was supposed to be the girls talking about their crushes, I only kept reading in case anyone mentioned me (no, obviously) but instead learnt that there is allegedly a place called Dumbidykes!!! Dumb Bi Dykes! What a place to live! Where is it?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 January 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i have a crush on a cute boy who works upstairs. i know nothing about him except that he is cute as a button. i run into him sometimes getting coffee. he makes me smile. :)

the most i ever did to pursue a crush was I ASKED HIM OUT. this was a bad idea.

fiona (fiona), Friday, 10 January 2003 20:19 (twenty-three years ago)

So I've just have to know. How are things going, whatzitname???

How do you say "I think your adorable. Will you go out with me?" without being too forward??

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 10 January 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

The last time we were at work together he walked by my door like he was ignoring me, then he came back and pushed his face up against the glass, gave a big smile and waved Hi!!

whatzitzname (whatzitzname), Friday, 10 January 2003 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)

IT BETTER NOT BE MY BANK TELLER, HONEY!!!!!

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 10 January 2003 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

FLIRT!!!

He is definitely feeding the crush. Bastard.

I wonder if I should go round the corner and see if Pliny is at the Betsey tonight, but that would be stalking, and that would be bad, and besides, I've procrasturbated the entire day away, and only finished one article out of four... D'oh!

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Happy type 2/3 crushes on the guy who writes "My Life in Blue" on Keenspace and Mark S. Since I don't talk to either of them they count as random strangers, right? I'm trying to think of people I actually talk to or see, but they're just generally disappointing.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 10 January 2003 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

"procrasturbated"!

!

You should stop posting now. You are never going to top that.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 10 January 2003 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not mine. It's Suzy's, dammit.

kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to the cinema tonight. I have a crush on the ticket girl at the door.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 10 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

why do all the boys have to be so EMO! celebrities are way easier to have crushes on.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 10 January 2003 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, Reckless Records employees? (Nabisco to thread.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 10 January 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I singled out one boy in my art class the other day as being incredibly cute. Thin, dorky... But I kind of forgot about him until he introduced himself to the class. Then I turned to look at him, and noticed he had taken off the jacket he had been wearing at the beginning of class. He had a Radiohead shirt on! Also, his name is Theodore and he's an Anglophile. And he's just so incredibly cute.

So I accosted him after class and he really couldn't have been less interested in me.

Damn. :(

I did get his email, though.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 10 January 2003 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

He wasn't worthy, Mel! And it would be weird to be in the throes of passion with someone called Theo or Theodore anyhoo. It's either cosby-esque or chimpmunk-esque.

Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 11 January 2003 00:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Threadkillah!

OK, flip the tables. Has anyone ever had any *good* random crush experiences? Has anyone actually approached their random crush and ended up with a good friend/associate/lover/whatever? Success stories?

The closest I had was the C6 experience, of crushing madly on them for ages, but then we ended up becoming friends, our bands played together, things like that. However, I don't see either of them any more. :-( I guess I used to see Ollie around because his band rehearsed at the same time mine did, but Dan has disappeared off the face of the earth.

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 13:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Not that I know what a bi dyke might be.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 11 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

It's populated by lots of schemies, and presumably some dykes too.

(it originally got its name from a 17th-century school for the deaf which was built nearby)

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 January 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

What are schemies? And what do deaf people have to do with dumb bi dykes? Well, I guess the old meaning of dumb (= mute) might be relevant...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:02 (twenty-three years ago)

schemies = neds, townies, etc. Blokes in track suits with the legs tucked into their sports socks; girls showing as much skin as they can and covered in gold jewellery. You know the sort of thing I mean; they infest council estates countrywide.

I guess the old meaning of dumb (= mute) might be relevant

You are OTM.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

EEEUUUWWWW!!! Not on my thread, please! I see all these new answers, expect them to be about wonderful happy-making crushes, and you're talking about Nings. Yuck! I want to wash my mind out with soap!

::replaces mental image of Nings with quick slide show of Pliny, Cute Bartender and Coffeeshop Boy::

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

schemies = neds

I am forever entertained by this bit of slang whenever it comes up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I will start a new cult whose sole purpose is to clone Ned and use the clones to populate Scottish housing estates.

caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I find this a GOOD AND NOBLE GOAL.

"It's another lonely day in the streets of Dundee, and the hordes of Neds are gawkily moving along towards another bemusing Dundee vs. United clash.

'Uh, hi!'

'Hi, heh heh.'

'So what did you do?'

'I picked up another slew of CDs.'

'Hey, me too!'

'Isn't that great?'

The conversations along these lines continue for some time..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd be worried if I was Kevin Shields. The army of irate Scottish Ned clones invading London trying to get his lardass back in the studio might be the worst invasion England has faced since 1745. Instead of the Young Pretender, they want the Auld Shoegazer. Or, erm, something. This tea with honey and massive amounts of vitamins seems to be warping my brain.

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I heart Kate and her visions via controlled substances.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Not controlled at all. Freely available at Holland and Barrett. My mother just sent round this silly email saying that she and ... someone else in my family, forget who ... have just been diagnosed with "pernicious anaemia" - sounds pretty spurious to me - which is supposed to be a hereditary disease whereby your body produces no vitamin B12 so you can't absorb iron, or some such nonsense like that (when I know, coz I watch Buffy, that it clearly VAMPIRES who rob me of half my bodyweight in blood every winter and get tired, sluggish and depressed coz vampires turn you GOTH) so I should get dosed up with massive amounts of complex B-vitamins, just like Anita P in Performance. So I went and got a mega 7000% RDA infusion of B12 and now I feel GREAT!!! and I want to dance like an ORGONE-FUELLED DEITY (except not topless) to Hawkwind records! Woo!

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

''OHHHH JULIO THE GIRL AT THE NFT RIGHT? DOES SHE STILL WORK THERE LITTLE BRUNETTE RIGHT OHHHHHHH i'd forgotten about her''

she was a lovely brunnette. she is the ticket shredder at NFT-3. I'm going back there to watch more bergman movies. to get crushed on, of course.

''Sigh. I guess the random crush generator really is a way of avoiding actual relationships.''

for me it definetely is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 11 January 2003 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)

the terribly hot and darling Eastern European (former?) hostess at my local excellent Turkish restaurant. and she so knows it. but i think she left and my chance is gone.

gabbneb, Saturday, 11 January 2003 21:56 (twenty-three years ago)

always terrible when they leave and move on with their lives, no?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 11 January 2003 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, it's a sign from Aphrodite that you should leave and move on with your own life. Maybe that's just aquiring a different crush that symbolises something else.

I hate when they *know* it. And then they sort of swagger past you with this air of "Yeah, I'm hot and I know it." Or maybe that's cute. I can't decide.

Do you think about your interactions with them afterwards, and turn them over in your mind trying to examine and analyse them? Or do you just forget about them until you're in the neighbourhood?

I'm convinced Pliny shot Ed a funny look as we left the other night, and I wanted to scream HE'S JUST MY HOUSEMATE, but then again, I'm sure I'm imagining things and projecting bigtime.

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

no, she knew it in the best, 'this is all lots of fun' way

gabbneb, Saturday, 11 January 2003 22:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, that's lovely, then. *Those* are the best, when it's understood, accepted and played along with.

Still trying to work out if Pliny's *look* was a "Don't leave with her, she's CRAZY!" look, a "oh no, I thought she loved MEEEEE!" look or "I wish these fuXors would just leave already so I could lock up and go home" look.

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

''I hate when they *know* it. And then they sort of swagger past you with this air of "Yeah, I'm hot and I know it." Or maybe that's cute. I can't decide.''

that's terrible! what a turn off!!!! a crush killa!!!!!!!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:06 (twenty-three years ago)

If they do it an arrogant way that stinks of "you have no chance" then it's a crushkilla, but if it's in a cute, fun way that makes them pay more attention to you, it's crush-fertiliser!

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i sent a really embarassing e-mail to someone once. i was trying to be funnty. this person asked me if calling me "the lady ms di" was appropriate, and i responded something like "you can call me di, but i am also known as dinosaur breath and shoehead." oh tHE SHAME!

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I just want to obsess, I guess the object doesn't really matter...

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah... its all about how you imagine them to be, not what they really are like. i like crushes, they are so safe. someone i don't know and don't really want to know can never hurt me.

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I inexplicably have not this type of crush at the moment [shopkeepers across NYC breathe a sigh of relief]

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, FIND ONE, Mary! There used to be some damn fine bartenders in the East Village who could do with some attention now that I am no longer there to wink at them.

WORD, Di!

kate, Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I have one on a girl who manages the Virgin Megastore on 14th Street in Manhattan. long brown hair, very pale skin, severe/intense eyes, sort of nerdy and lanky but very curvy 'round the hips. (occasionally her shirt untucks itself and you can see a few inches of skin right above her waistline...[shudder].) has that won't give me the time of day aura that just about defines my crushes.

also, the girl who works the counter at the Tower Records world-music store; she's very short, has short, very dark, very curly hair (ROWR!), really young-looking (19-ish) but she has a ring on her engagement/marriage finger which is one deterrent (the other being she doesn't notice me at all; I'm of the mutual-attraction-or-bust school of would-be courtship). she is cute cute cute. I am smitten smitten smitten...and happy to leave it at that, really.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 11 January 2003 23:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Taking sides: Crushes on celebrities you'll never meet vs. Crushes on cute girl/boy at the supermarket.

Which is more fulfilling on the oxytocin front, while better for avoiding hurt-potentiality?

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

supermarket, definitely--that outside chance something might actually happen is a much bigger adrenaline/oxytocin rush

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:33 (twenty-three years ago)

supermarket. you can see those girls in the flesh (3D=> classic). celebrities you can only see on photographs (2D=> dud).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, but the outside chance that something might happen makes them inherently scarier.

Plus, there is a much higher quotient for rejection with supermarket crushes. With a celebrity, there is no chance that they will ever enter your life (OK, I'm living proof that this is a false assumption) so no chance for disappointment. Unless they release a bad album, or get married or fiddle with kiddies, or other guaranteed crushkillahs...

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

that's right, it is scary but that's why its better. that tension give it an edge.

photographs=> real dud.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh no! Photographs = PORN!!! It's kinda scary how I can stare for HOURS at photos of crushee popstars, but then again, I do have a strong touch of the obsessive compulsive. To show the power of the photograph, why are celebrities always so disappointing in the flesh? Because they do not live up to the archetype of their 2D ideal.

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

photographs of celebs are dud because celebs always look the same (always smiling!). it gets boring.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Depends on the celebrity. My fave pictures of popstars are always the ones where they're rolling around on the floor drunk. Coz then I always think "Hrmmm, they're pissed and suffering from beer goggles, hrmmm, I could get in there..."

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Someone else talk about crushes! I'm bored and there is nothing on the telly!

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

after coming off ILX I had a look in today's sunday times and guess what? an article abt that kate winslet cover in GQ and how she was made to make thinner in the photos by digital enhancment. the whole was how abt this sort of thing is making ppl feel depressed abt their weight blah blah...the effect on kids etc etc

of course most of us know this but kinda coincidental.

no crushing on no one today. didn't get out of the house.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

The extraordinary thing about that GQ business is that the mag's editor said that not only were KW's photos digitally altered, but that there is hardly ever a photo of a woman published in the mag without digital enhancement! I'd always got a bit exasperated with people who would say of models that they are not 'real people', arguing that of course they are, they're just at one end of the bell curve of physical shapes, but it turns out that they were right, what we see in the mags isn't real people at all!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to a show. There was this cute guy in the audience. My eyes were drawn to him, distracting me from the opening act. It was nice. Then, the opening act ends, and the next band comes on -- and he's the guitarist! This, of course, is excellent, because now he's on stage and I'm permitted to stare at him as much as I want -- it's socially acceptable now, right? I'm just watching the band play.

Etc. Of course I say nothing to him, go home, download pictures from the band's website, write a song about the unattainable crushness of it all, etc.

Then they come into town again, so of course I go see them. And there's this guy hanging around him suspiciously, and he's a bit too attractive now, and he's not as introverted and awkward on stage, and the magic is gone, and I realize that I -- you guessed it -- don't really care for their music after all.

Oh well!

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah well. This has happened to me several times... getting some mutual eye off a boy while I'm standing in the audience who ends up getting up on the stage. It's quite funny, because boys who are used to being stared at onstage are often not as awkward about getting stared at offstage, cause they just think that you're recognising them, not hitting on them.

(A couple of times they've even ended up approaching me after the set... cheek!)

Amazing how boys' bands sometimes stop sounding good when they stop being crushable.

kate, Sunday, 12 January 2003 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I got so bored I actually googled Pliny. In a strange feat of circularity, the only reference to him is in Dickon Fosca's weblog.

Kate, Monday, 13 January 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

For once, I have absolutely no crushes!

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 13 January 2003 07:54 (twenty-three years ago)

db: Is that a good thing?

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 13 January 2003 08:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Um.... yeah! I'm not as distracted and might be able to get a little more shit done. But never fear, I'm sure the moment of conviction in relation to my career or some industrious part of my life will slip from my grasp due to the stupidest, biggest crush yet to come.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 13 January 2003 08:58 (twenty-three years ago)

If I have no crushes, I get NOTHING done. Sometimes I think Courtly Love is the only reason I get out of bed... If only they had cute boys working at TEMP AGENCIES.

kate, Monday, 13 January 2003 09:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Just thought I should give an update on this thread.

Wooooo!!! Pliny is SO LOVELY. I went to the Arse Cafe to see The Telescopes and Pliny was still doing sound even though it wasn't a Tarkus and Fuxor night at all. He actually, like, said hello to me. Of his on volition and everything! Gosh, he's lovely. I had total a brain fart and could barely stutter to ask him how he was.

So I guess he would know me if he tripped over me. Literally. I made the mistake of sitting in front of the stage during the support bands, and he came over to change the mic stands, plonked himself directly in front of me and bent over, sticking his ASS in my face. Uuuuuhhhh. Is he TRYING to make me have a heart attack? And then he walked over me. Grinning and touching me on the shoulders and tripping over me. Why am I so lame and shy and can't actually talk to him like a normal human being instead of just grinning at him goofily and being unable to speak?

Twice I actually worked up my courage to make conversation with him, and the first time, these two BOYS kept trying to talk to me. (This is the disadvantage of being the only girl in the front row of a dronerock show.) And then after the show when I was going to go and say goodbye to him, this girl he works with came over and talked to him for ages. Sigh.

It's just fated not to be. And I accept that. It's better that way, it's just a silly crush for fun. I mean, he's probably married for all I know. But it's lovely and fun and squishy and makes me feel happy for a few hours, so it's a good thing, right?

I just need to go swoooooooooooooooooon.

kate, Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:33 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...
I can't believe it! I went to a gig at the Arse Cafe tonight, and Pliny has SHAVED HIS HEAD!!! Why has he done this? Conversation goes something like this:

Kate: what have you done to YOUR HAIR?!?!?
Pliny: Uh, it was a hassle, so zzzzzz ::makes buzzing motion::
Kate: But it was SO CUTE before!
Pliny (looking strangely crestfallen): it'll grow back...

::Kate realises how rude she's been and runs away::

I apologised a few minutes later. But I was shocked. He's still really lovely, but I just can't get used to the shaved head. It doesn't look right.

(I can't believe that Hilton just messaged me to remind me he was on the radio... and misspelled "masterbate". What a wierdoe.)

kate, Saturday, 15 February 2003 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Aaargh. Just need to talk about the crush I have on "M" again.

It's ruining my life. It's been almost 8 months now.

It's got to the stage where M is what I think about for 90% of the day. It gives me a headache. I can't sleep. I'm not even thinking about anything in particular, just about M.

M's there in my mind all the time. Even during a one month "separation". i.e. didn't see M over January.

Thing is: M is unavailable. If M were available I don't think I would seriously be interested.

I'm quite rational about this. I'm very fond of M and we get along really well. We are friends.

Really I just want to be friends. I think over and over that I should tell M of my fondness but with the assurance that it's just a friendship type fondness so not to misinterpret it - but let's be honest, that would be a bit of a lie so long as I am totally infatuated and obsessed.

Then I think I should confess all - but that is something that it's just SO wrong to do. I mean, this is all my shit. It's transference and obsession etc. that M has never instigated or encouraged and it's totally one way. To force any responsibility for it onto M is manipulation of the highest order.

It's not even really about M. It's about what M represents. Also, M is an excuse to not think about some of the things I prolly should be thinking about.

Anyway, any advice on how to get over it before I go crazy?

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 17 February 2003 01:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you mean 'M' from the Bond films? Isn't he played by Sir Judi Dench?

Skottie, Monday, 17 February 2003 01:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish. Famous people crushes are so much easier to deal with.

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I will not crush on the boy I made out with till 6am. i will not i will not i will not . . .

That Girl (thatgirl), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

poor guy, I waited on his doorstep with the ruse of "doing an interview":

"


So here it is, the long-awaited and most definitive interview ever with Clint Conley.

The interview was done by none other than BurmaKitty and Lianna Ness in April of 1981. An unaware Clint
Conley was about to find two teenagers with nothing to do on April vacation, sitting on his porch when he
came home...from what I am not sure, and that didn't seem important at the time. They were just happy
Clint actually and really lived at the address that he unwittingly put in the upper left hand corner of a letter
he sent to answer BurmaKitty's fanmail that she sent to Ace of Hearts Records. If he ever thought of doing
that again, I am sure this cured him. "

the whole shebang:

http://missionofburma.com/bgu/original/clinterview/clinterview.html

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Monday, 17 February 2003 02:05 (twenty-three years ago)


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