Nobody Loves Me...

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No, this is not another self pitying Kate thread. This is a genuine request.

What do you do when you get the mizzies and are convinced that no one loves you? Like, quick little pick-me-ups when you're feeling not AWFULLY, terribly, unbearably depressed, but just sort of bleah and can't stop lying on the couch sighing loudly.

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Trying to think of things that don't involve hassling crushboys...

1) listen to my favourite album
2) go for a long walk through my favourite bits of London
3) play guitar really really loud and make a horrendous noise
4) send a random email to a friend I haven't talked to in a while and I don't write to often enough

Any other suggestions? I think Suzy will have me put down if I don't stop sighing.

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like 4! i should try that sometime.

um, usually i start by taking a nap, but that doesn't always work and results in me missing deadlines ...

maura (maura), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) I watch wrestling (probably not very helpful for most!)
2) Talk to my dog and cat (great listeners)
3) I do the guitar thing to (as Alice Cooper sang "I picked up my guitar to blast away the clouds, but someone in the next room yelled you gotta turn that damn thing down)
4) Read my 1994 diary, and laugh at my adolescent melodrama
5) Tea and muffins with strawberry jam

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

5) CLEAN THE FLAT!!! I had forgotten about that one. It really does make you feel better when you're done, as well, and you have a nice, clean flat.

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, cleaning is good, I am going to do that tomorrow, I think the piles of CD's, half drunk bottles of water, bus tickets and piles of paper are getting me down.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

And the bottles of piss have really got to go.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

meanie :(

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I create a false identity and troll my favourite messageboard, going to elaborate lengths to ensure my anonymnity.

Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 1 February 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, that is really terrific fun.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 February 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Emailing a friend is good. Emailing/calling a bunch of friends and asking if anyonefancies a night out tonight/soon often works.

Also, playing classic happy music. I go for late '50s Louis Prima generally. Or watching the right TV/vids - not-too-familiar Simpsons is good, if you have any.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 February 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Any other good suggestions?

I'm trying to avoid:

-eating (cause I put on a stone over Xmas and it's still going)
-spending money (cause I have none)
-crushboys (cause I scare the shit out of them with my dog-girl "I love you I love you I love you pay attention to me I love you!" antics)
-boozing
-watching TV. it's boring, innit?

I am going out tonight. I'm meeting up with someone I am VERY interested in talking to (not a crushboy, in fact, not a boy at all) and then I'm going to the Arse Cafe. Maybe Hilton will turn up, maybe I'll spend the night perving on Pliny's asslessness. But it's far more likely that I'll end up reminiscing about The Old Days with Gary Ladybug. Hooray.

-"a cup of tea" is always the proper English response. But too much caffeine makes me hyper and hypermediated and hypersexualised.

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was just going to suggest coming along to see the Rezillos tonight, Kate, as they would cheer anyone up but you are already going out. (It is also possible that they will be old and tedious, of course.)

Ice lollies are good too. The ones I have are only 33 calories, so that's hardly terribly fattening, and you shouldn't be worrying about that anyway.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 February 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate ice lollies. Isn't that bizarre? My band was named after a food that I fucking loathe.

Except for Rocket Pops. I like Rocket Pops, but you can't get them in this country. :-(

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

is it bad to say ring some friends and arrange to go drinking

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

It is when you're trying to avoid drinking...

Right now I'm dressing up. Yeah. Look good, feel good, that's it. My suede trousers might even make an appearance. But now watch Hilton not even turn up at all... ah well, Pliny can marvel at my ass in suede trousers and be amazed. Or something. :-)

kate, Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

stay up all night on the internet, as in tonight's case. who wants to go to bed and think of nothing but that dreadful day of the last creamy peach? if i had known better...

di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh fair enough, I was thinking personally I don't feel noone loves me too often so maybe it's not as bad that when I do I arrange to go out.

My other suggestion is Underworld-Everything, Everything, but again I can't see that being too helpful.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I jump in a cab and go straight down to Tiffany's"

Well, not true, but I find watching the film I've nicked the quote from helps. Dancing in the kitchen is another one. Do anything really, anything other than lying on the sofa/ the bed will make you feel better, even walking to the shops.

Anna (Anna), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

internet, books and CDs. I go to a movie too.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 February 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate feeling that way, Kate. I can sympathize. Is a good book not an option? I find that usually helps, unless it's a particularly depressing book and in that case things are usually made worse.

Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think books with sad or depressing endings are OK as long as its not too self-conciously trying to depress you.

same applies for recs: for instance, stay clear of coldplay if you're feeling down.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stay clear of Coldplay period, surely?

Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes, but especially if you're feeling down (I only mention them because I just taped a copy of their first alb on tape for my brother).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know that people love me but sometimes I can't feel it. When I can't feel it, I ask.

Lara (Lara), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

paint, draw, write, read, work on a new song!

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best books to read in these circs: P.G. Wodehouse.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 1 February 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, geeta is OTM!

I forgot about painting!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Listening to Dr Dre.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

listening to your favourite records and watching a good film usually helps when i'm feeling like that. or ringing up friends and arranging to go out.

haha, actually, the last time i felt like this, i put on "ghetto fabulous" by baxendale and it TOTALLY cheered me up.

sand.y, Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, actually, the last time i felt like this, i put on "ghetto fabulous" by baxendale and it TOTALLY cheered me up.

I am waiting for chris b to put that on the Bad Advice ILE Has Given You thread.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

put on a bunch of glam makeup! that's always fun. the call/e-mail a friend suggestion is a good one too, sometimes a tiny bit of human contact helps.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 1 February 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I usually lie on my bed and wallow with a depressing record and then go work on a new song. That usually helps.

Oh, also: Drinking! That's always a good answer.

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 1 February 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

but N., that song is comic genius!

sand.y, Saturday, 1 February 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Listen to the song, "Nobody Loves Us"

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 1 February 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Har har har har har! Considering my psycho ex boyfriend is currently screwing one of Baxendale, (lucky her) that's not the greatest of advice. ;-)

Am feeling better. Good food, good talk, good show, good company (and utterly perplexing email from crushboy) and PLINY STICKING HIS TONGUE OUT AT ME!!! (excuse me! don't point that at me unless you plan on using it!) have all cheered me up immensely.

Aaaaahhhhhh... Pliny... he's so lovely.

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

perfect solution: mixtaping. tho it can make for some very depressing mixtapes for people.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 2 February 2003 03:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know if my tape player actually works after the infamous white russian/white gold incident...

Whatever tape I made right now would probably be quite odd. Does anyone want a star-rock wank-fantasy mixtape?

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 09:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

shit, sorry about mentioning baxendale Kate!

sand.y, Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

all the girls in Baxendale have shit voices

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, it's OK, I think it's actually hysterically funny.

I don't feel unloved today, I was in the studio for most of the day and it was GOOD. Was in such a good mood that I asked Hilton to marry me so we could be the dronerock Sonny and Cher. This will make him squirm and be awkward in such an adorable way, the poor dear. I bet he'll be horrified.

But he still won't sleep with me...

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

even after your wedding?? that's just cruel. about the mixtape, kate, i want one please!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

He won't marry me, either. :-(

He probably thinks I'm nuts. I probably am nuts. But that doesn't stop him from being groovy.

Hrmmm, Tracer you'd like a chewy, psychedelic bubblegum mixtape? If you're really like one, I might actually make one. Send your snail mail address to my yahoo account, and if the White Russians didn't kill my tape deck I'll make you one!

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would really like one, especially cuz I have no idea what is chewy psychedelic bubblegum! Is it like "Some Velvet Morning"?

I thought you said you told him already though. Why is he "going to" squirm about it?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

shit, was that the wrong song to mention?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because all men squirm when a girl they don't fancy (especially if it's me) repeatedly try it on with them. Becauase I should stop making him uncomfortable. I want to make him feel good, not make him feel scared. And that saddens me.

"Some Velvet Morning" is, well, dark psychedelic bubblegum. I'm thinking more "Anyway That You Want Me" and "The Grooviest Girl In The World" type bubblegum.

I am going to stop thinking about this now. Honest.

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

The listening to loud music and dancing round the living room idea applies here. If this is a long term thing, get some potplants, they have a kind of homeopathic effect on the air in a room and looking at green makes you happier.

Also, going to pet shops always cheers me up

isadora (isadora), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, crap, self fulfilling prophecy. I *was* in a good mood. But then I started thinking about Hilton. And then Chris T-T had a fucking GO at me on the DiS boards (fuck off your new single's rubbish) and now I'm in a rotten mood again and need to take the advice of this thread. :-(

Pet shops make me miserable. The poor animals in cages.

God, and the Big Book Of British Smiles is on the telly. Fan-fucking-tastic.

kate, Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was about to say the same thing on the pet shop front - they are such sad places!

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

And hey, Kate - it takes 62 muscles to frown and only 26 to smile!

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does anyone want a star-rock wank-fantasy mixtape?

Yes please! I know it ought to be brilliant.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Whoops I was thinking of the local one where they aren't in cages. Except for the fish and small rodents. But I seem to be batting a losing wicket, so I am sorry I bought this up while attempting to suggest happy things.

isadora (isadora), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't frown. I just look blank, N...

OK, Nicole - Tracer just claimed the tape, but I'll make two. It will give me something to do that isn't moon around over Hilton. And it's an excuse to listen through my favourite records for my idea of the "Bubblegum Arkestra" that we're working on.

But that's it! I haven't made a mixtape in a year, and now I'm making two.

I should just get a dog. Really.

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

This will literally be the first mixtape anyone has ever sent me, so I'm looking forward to it (unless the ilx comp counts?). See, that's pathetic so you should automatically feel better about yourself Kate.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

You should get a dog. Look at how cute these puppies are. They put a lot of the kitten pics to shame!

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

DON'T click on the above link - it's some really extreme anime porn.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

AAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

I'm not bothered either way by kittens (except, well, Hilton seems to be having a terrible time with his poor cat being taken away from him, which upsets me cause it upsets him) but PUPPIES just make me goon and sigh like the first Magnetic Fields album.

Especially this feller. He actually kind of reminds me a bit of Hilton (except Hilton isn't blonde.) They've got the same expresssion:

http://www.e-michael.jp/userdogs_thumb/ame2_thumb_1.jpg

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, no, *this* is more like Hilton in his "nobody loves me" moods:

http://www.e-michael.jp/gallery/nemuiyo_thumb.JPG

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate you are dangerously obsessed.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dangerously obsessed with puppies or Hilton?

Please, please, PLEASE can I have a puppy like this:

http://www.e-michael.jp/gallery_thumb/kuropome3_thumb.jpg

I'd even stop whinging about how Hilton won't sleep with me cause I'd be too busy going on about how cute my puppy was. If only I could train a puppy to climb the stairs to my bed, then I could snuggle with puppy... wait, that sounds kinda kinky and it's really not intended that way.

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

how is that even a puppy? surely it is a sickening glimpse of our alien overlords?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

if the 12 foot lizards looked like that, I'd GLADLY surrender everything to them! I mean, who knows that alien overlords aren't twelve foot puppies from Betelgeuse?

Oh, Hilton. Oh, puppies. I'm not depressed any more.

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

me neither, 2 birds w/1 stone, kate!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

And then I just realised I've got to go to work in ten hours and now I'm depressed again. Please, someone, post more puppies! Puppies! Cute puppies! Wriggling cute puppies licking my face!

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.mentalis.f9.co.uk/DWID/Species/Mandrels/Mandrels.jpg

mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

usually i kill myself

forbidden or obsolete (24 hour troubleshooter), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

it gets a bit boring after the first time though

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like doing most things on this thread, especially playing guitar and talking to my cats when I'm feeling kind of down. Also, I enjoy going for a walk on a pretty day to get out of the house. It's even better if I can go on a walk somewhere that involves shopping.

I also read old journals to cheer myself up.

Sometimes I'll even call my mom or one of my sisters.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 February 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate, you can't have a dog: landlord feels dogs are (and I quote) "shit machines".

suzy (suzy), Monday, 3 February 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, they are, but they're especially cute and endearing shit machines.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Landlords that don't allow pets R EVIL.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

My old boss had several rental properties and she used to say, "I can't believe people love those filthy animals! They are just so ugly and dirty and blech!!" (*throws her hands up in disgust*)

And, yes, I hated her.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 February 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) double espresso
2) Ocean Rain or Human Frailty on the stereo way too loud
3) scrubbing my kitchen spotless

No One (SiggyBaby), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

There is the possibility that no landlord has said any such thing, and Suzy is lying!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Since Suzy is shagging the landlord, I think she'd know.

::ducks::

kate, Monday, 3 February 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

So then, tell suzy to MAKE the landlord allow pets.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 February 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Under pain of...um...uh...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate, Ed reads this board!!!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, the landlord is not lying. And Kate is not lying. And I am trying to watch Michael Jackson freaking out, damn you people.

I have a dog - it lives 4000 miles away from me, at my mother's house. It is a small black moppy poodle called Willie and it is a criminal mastermind.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:26 (twenty-one years ago) link


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