A question about ILX user capacity

When's the exam Graham? And where do we put the money? I put a quid in the floppy drive of my computer - can you get that?

I'm on a mac, so no floppy drive. How about you pay me in Buffy boxsets?

Maybe this is the time the moderators are doing all their thread categorizations, however? Or doing those last-minute searches before leaving work for the day?

I don't think any donations are warranted at this point.

For each Buffy box set I get in the post, one buggy UPDATE command because a concurrency-friendly REPLACE DELAYED. Or just send me a card. That'd be nice.

I'm fucking serious.

I can send people cards. I only wish I had any money to spare. Quite seriously, for once.

Funnily enough, I've never filled anyone's box...

Dan Perry showing up at your door with a complimentary Hootie and the Blowfish bathmat?

I am pissed off I hardly ever get told what to do. On all the anti-trolling and anonymity and such threads, people come up with all sorts of ideas, "Graham, how about we have a system where ...". Then no one ever says whether they actually want it done or not. If you leave someone sitting at command line to do their own thing, then what right have you to complain when they start doing their own thing?

If you just want a goon to do all the work for you behind the scenes, then fine, but that's not a favour for friends, that's a job, and I expect to be paid for it. As this thread demonstrates, whoever does this is expected not to have a personality and not to be human, ever.

I don't mind at all doing all this stuff, but I want you to realise there are big sacrifices involved. Sending me a card isn't such a ridiculous idea, is it? And no fucking way am I handing over my code to you lot after all you've put me through.

That's a start, anyway. I'll reply to the people who sent me email.

In all the many many MANY hours, I have spent babying you through your countless selfish tantrums, Graham, you have never ONCE expressed the slightest interest or concern in anything happening in my life. NEVER ONCE. Do you get it? Do you get it yet? Do you GET it yet? Many people have made tremendous efforts on your behalf on this board: every single time you turn round and kick them in the fucking teeth: punish them for caring, punish them for trying, give them NOTHING IN RETURN BUT GRIEF.

I'm sorry I haven't been able to devote more time to you this week, I've actually been busy with stuff which doesn't involve this board. I'm sorry I don't rack up as a friend in your peculiar little world — bcz I'm not a cute girly cartoon character and/or yr total emotional slave, or whatever it is you're wanting. I'm sorry that the immense time and effort I've given up for you over the last year means so utterly little to you.

I'll email you at the weekend. I'm fucking angry with you about this, and with me you haven't got the tiniest, slightiest, faintest ghoast of an invented excuse to back your way out of it.

I find that I am not too bothered about this.

mark- you're a damn fine human being (I know its obvious thing to say but I'll say it). Have a good weekend. Relax and take care.

ha! I want to see nabisco's essay.

(I had a larger post explaining how I saw Mark's frustration at being labelled a moderator gateway as being a large factor in how he was reacting to this, but I was looking at this in terms of how it affects the board instead of in terms of the relationship between Graham and Mark that the board enables and shortly after posting I went, "ARGH WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?")

(However I certainly wouldn't have anything to do with Fairtrade ILX.)

If I'd bothered to post on that thread you would have been right up there in the pantheon of perfection, PF. But I don't post to those threads because I don't want to miss anyone out, which I no doubt would.

(Liz, I've emailed you again. I hoep this one arrives)

the backslapping threads are evil because they only make people happy or sad or not bothered.

I like that the pinefox is convinced. not a backslap.

I was mentioned like once on ILM and not at all on ILE. But that's okay because I don't validate myself by the boards and ppls estimation of me here + I figure the ppl that would mention me are the types who don't becuz they don't go in for those types of threads (which is like a spectacularly tight irrefutable and unprovable justification but hey, whatever works). Ppl. have short attention spans and were just throwing in on jokes and whoever had been particularly silly/on-point in the last few days or whatever -- you can't take these types of things too seriously.

I am pissed off I hardly ever get told what to do. On all the anti-trolling and anonymity and such threads, people come up with all sorts of ideas, "Graham, how about we have a system where ...". Then no one ever says whether they actually want it done or not. If you leave someone sitting at command line to do their own thing, then what right have you to complain when they start doing their own thing?

That's chop-logic, and I expect you know it. Ppl appreciate all the work you've put into the boards, and we're always delighted with new k-kewl features but if any were *rilly* necessary the lizards would raise a stink about it -- mainly we've hashed things out and the boards seem pretty stable and solid at this point (with the possible exception of the tweaks to SQL calls to make them synchronize better) so it's not like there are many U&K things to do. Which might be part of where yr. coming from -- if the board keeps going on its own and no longer needs a wizard, then you can't get validation from yr. dazzling techne-trix. (haha if you love something [i.e. code] let it go).

In other words, yr. not expected to keep it all behind-the-scenes even in the same sense mods are (since when mods don't everyone gets all freaky about it). If you had posted a thread that said something like "Hey cool people! The boards have been slow becuz some tweaks need to happen. But I'm sorta down right now so it's slow going. Some cards might cheer me up tho -- also here is a picture of a kitten!" then I'm sure you would have gotten a more pleasant response -- it was the tone which came out all wrong, not that you talked about what was going on with the boards etc.

If you just want a goon to do all the work for you behind the scenes, then fine, but that's not a favour for friends, that's a job, and I expect to be paid for it. As this thread demonstrates, whoever does this is expected not to have a personality and not to be human, ever.

First a number of ppl. were quite forgiving of yr. actions on the "Shouting At People" thread and understanding -- but people were going to split on it just like they do on lits of heated debates & the main thing I think is to treat the boards with the respect they deserve as posessing a life of their own rather than yr. personal domain -- something I know Tom has spent plenty of time thinking about since the first days of ILX too.

And no fucking way am I handing over my code to you lot after all you've put me through.

And for christsakes, don't just think of what the boards have put you through, but also what you've gotten from them. Otherwise its like breaking up with a girlfriend then burning her stuff because she said terrible things to you for the week while you were fighting.

I really hope you can think this through and come to some resolution here coz ppl. do like you and appreciate you and it would be a shame if you never understood how these things work.

IT IS PART OF ILX NOW!!!!!!!!