What does your work steal from you?

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Your time? Your money? Your self respect? Your soul? The seconds of your precious life ticking away into pointlessness? Go on, then...

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Companion to this thread:

what do you steal at work?

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My will to live

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Snap.

Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

My mind and sometimes my happiness. I can feel my brain turning gradually to cheese while I'm engaged in this office monkey business, but I feel better immediately I get on the bus at the end of the day and get stuck into reading interesting books. Overall it's not too bad, as it's only temporary and my errr colleagues are nice. What happens when I do finally get a permanent job in the sector I want to be in and find that it's just as soul-destroying as everything else, I don't know.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

My last "real" job stole my health, my sanity, my self-worth, and my ambition. I never want to do a "real" job again.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Five hours this Thursday. Everyone else gets to go home at 3pm but I need to work late. Having said that, my office has a stunning view over the hills, the sun is shining, I'm working six consecutive non-five-day weeks and life ain't that bad, really.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Sleep. I work at the library until 2:45 a.m.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

My job is ok, dull accounts tho. I share an office with one other person who is only part time, so i do get quite bored somedays even tho I have access to the internet & can have the radio on. It's a nice setting, an old converted stately home with picturesque grounds where deers & rabbits run about. God it sounds ideal, but u soon get bored with it!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm actually quite happy at work at the moment, mostly due to having moved my desk across the office to a place where it is much more comfortable, I am sitting with much nicer people and - here is the clincher - no one can see my screen at all.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I got yelled at AGAIN this morning for daring to be answering email at 9.30 am. We wasted AN HOUR going and having a discussion about this and being yelled at and all this crap. It would have taken me five minutes to finish the email.

Talk about effective fucking management...

This place it stealing my sanity and my reasonableness.

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Then get outta there girl. Memo to self: get outta there boy.

Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Hold the front-page!! Late breaking news!!

"Work is Crap Shocka! - Nation Stunned As Some People Reveal Job Hate"

Tomorrow on ILX - London is BIG Revealation. " There are houses and shops and stuff as far out as CROYDON reveals ILX survey!"

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Dr. C stunns me with such revelations!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

nothing, i am a student.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops, sorry, Dr. C - didn't mean to interrupt regularly scheduled amazingly interesting ILX discussions of tea and obscure London busroutes with something so MUNDANE as bitching about our jobs.

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

dr.c in sounding like a pompous asshole shocka

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Despite being crushingly boring, my work now only steals my precious time now I know I'm leaving. I'm desperate to get a start date for my swank new meedja job and I'm becoming furiously impatient about it. I want out of here.

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the main enjoyment from ile for now is that it often ressembles that star trek episode.


FOUR QUATLOOS ON THE NEWCOMER

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

What swank new meedja job?!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

tsk matt *only* the one I started a thread about on the bored a fortnight ago and was discussing in the pub - in your presence - on wednesday night

honestly one just cannot get the staff

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooohhh - there's a huge row erupting around me...

Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Alleviates the thoughts of the void for a while I suppose.

Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

aaahhh my days will soon no longer be soundtracked with belches, potatoes in cardigans reciting "fast show" scripts and Planet Rock radio

none of you could understand how happy this makes me

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I've worked in a nu meeja department. At the time, it was my idea of hell, but right now it sounds like bloody heaven...

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ack! I've only just seen that thread... congratulations and all that. Does this mean you get to review softcore C5 porn for a living again?

I don't remember you mentioning it in the pub though. Maybe I'm going senile.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate - why don't you do something about it if it's pissing you off so much? You're a strong and intelligent person - don't let the fuckers yell at you. Tell them firmly and reasonably how you're going to be treated and how you're not. And look for something more suited to you in the meantime. Why not hurl y'self totally into music - do session stuff to pay the bills until it's self-sustaining? (Obv this is on your mind all the time)

Hi Kilian - fuck off and think of some more inane prattle to fill up ILM why don't you?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks! maybe I mentioned it before you got there

anyway - reviewing the C5 soft porn is just a hobby, OKAY?

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

whoa! i take back that pompous remark! what a non-patronising, all-round top man the "doctor" is!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

This is pretty much the third time that this has happened. I keep saying "Look, the work gets done. This is the only thing that matters to me" and they keep saying "But it LOOKS bad". I don't give a fuck how it looks. This is not a workable situation. I have to leave this place. I want to be judged by the quality and quantity of my work, not how my behaviour "looks" to the other people. This is an ongoing problem.

This is a temporary job, I keep telling myself that. (Though they seem to be under the impression that this job is my life.) This is a temporary situation. I am working on ways to get the hell out.

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You sound like you are in the same situation as me Kate. And the thing is, the way you act will always rub people up wrong because for some of them, the job is the life pretty much. And so when you act like it's a fucking joke, they assume that the work you're doing must also be a joke. It's just pinheads man. Keep looking for an opening out of there and something will come along. That's what I've been telling myself for two years and then two weeks ago, something hit right out the blue that might just turn everything right around. You're in a band right - well, you know that's how things happen. Just keep your eyes open I geuss, and never get complacent.

Strange how life imitates art. Or ilx. A hilarious little storm in a tea-cup just blew up here a few minutes ago then those two dudes start trading insults.

Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm just jealous cos all i can come up with is inane prattle, as opposed to going on every thread and making remarks along the lines of "every record mentioned so far is arse! har har!"

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

From what you've told me the work not only gets done, it gets done without any errors! In which case, your boss has goose/golden egg issues. I'm willing to bet your boss/colleagues spend more time taking little toxic fag breaks just outside than you do checking your e-mail. Which looks much worse to people arriving for meetings than one poor data entry clerk occasionally using the internet.


suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

**as opposed to going on every thread and making remarks along the lines of "every record mentioned so far is arse! har har!"**

Every thread?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

gee, did i deliberately exaggerate something for sarcastic effect? Shame on me!

there's something horribly smug about the doctor that really sticks in my throat. ugh. i must withdraw from this thread for the good of my health. yeuch.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

nothing smug abt the doctor kilian.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

every fucking good thing i have about me.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

MY TASTE BUDS!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I just went to get a cup of coffee and someone filled the coffeemaker wrong, and it was, like 2 tablespoons of coffee for an ENTIRE POT and I didn't notice as I was filling my mug so I just took a sip of COFFEE FLAVOURED WATER!!!!!!!!!!

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

How revolting!

I'm having one of those days when even the coffeemaker is against me.

kate, Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I showed my co-worker how to get internet radio. This may have been a mistake.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

My work zaps some of my self-confidence. I really like to talk to people and am very relaxed in social situations, but I get all weird and quiet around people at work most of the time. I just want everyone to go away mostly. I don't know what my problem is. I guess I just don't have anything in common with them to talk about. And I feel like I can't completely be myself because the real me is not very professional.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Damm, I never did get you that movie with Andrew Sloan in leather pants but I could trade you a tin of Tim Horton's coffee instead. Thats not in regards to this thread.

Umm, this work is stealing my ability to sleep all day and my urge to train and write good and interesting code.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Mostly my time but also my love of waking up when I damn well please in the morning. Ah well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

every fucking good thing i have about me.

I will second that one. And work has also inspired the giddy psychosis that has caused me to prattle on about elf pirates and mighty ducks.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Work is making you talk about Disney-related things? ESCAPE! RUN!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

my respect for my fellow humans.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

kate i bet every time one of yer bosses complains about the way something "looks" they also go "it's not ME of course, you know that EYE don't care"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

My work does not matter to me. I go in, do a fairly decent job, leave and FORGET ABOUT IT. This is U&K when dealing with mind-numbingly tedious stuff. And when I do get the good projects (it happens) they get exactly the same treatment - I'm just more upbeat during the day. Work to live. Don't live to work.

SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

state secrets.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
I've been offered the "opportunity" to fill in for six weeks for someone who makes much more money than I do. I have until tomorrow at 5 to give my answer. The chief hinted that I could get a "stipend" but did not guarantee it.

There is a lot of work in my dept. but my bosses rolled over and gave their assent to the chief for me to go upstairs. I'm feeling a lot of pressure to do it, but the notion of doing it for no extra compensation (they are saving a *lot* of money by not hiring a temp) strongly offends my principles.

I don't know what to do or how to demand compensation. We don't have a union. Also, I have a co-worker who does the same job I do, but he wasn't asked, so I will be labeled an ass-kisser if I do it.

This is totally unfair. If I get no offer tomorrow, I think I'm going to turn it down, but I'm afraid that if I'm asked for a reason, I'm going to blow up. I'm becoming more and more angry the more I think about it. The fact that they would even have the nerve really pisses me off.

Name Withheld, Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I have discovered today that my job title has been changed without my notification. Ordinarily this wouldn't bother me so much, but since I'm leaving, my work has now stolen my actual job title to use on resumes! How fucked is that?

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you still use the job title on resumes? I love how we're always the last to know about stuff like this.

I've decided that I'm going to accept their "offer", because I don't want to be branded by HR as a troublemaker. I am going to wait until the last minute, though, so that they get the message.

I'm so angry, though, that I'm going to get a prescription for Prozac.

Name Withheld, Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Stence, I've always toyed with titles on resumes, tweaking if needed. Most of them are corporate crap lingo. As long as yr highlighting your responsibilities what does it matter?

My work steals my mental and physical health, my idealism, sometimes my dignity, and a lot of my respect for other people.

That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 15 May 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the e-mail I sent to my girlfriend a few minutes ago makes a perfect answer to this question.

"so I slept pretty well last night, and more than usual, and I feel clear-
headed, energetic, and optimistic this morning. And it's driving me fucking
insane. I have all these things to think about, all these things I could be
doing, all this work on the website that needs to be done, all these records
to
review, and I'm totally in the mood to do it, and I'm stuck -- PINNED like a
bug! -- in this chair, doing a monotonous, repetitive job.

"Tell me the rest of my life won't be like this."

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so angry, though, that I'm going to get a prescription for Prozac.

That reminds me.

That Girl, the reason why this bugs me so is that I've already applied to positions within the Bank with my old job title. So whatever recruiter got my resume could (and probably would) look up my info in the corporate directory, then see that the wrong title is listed on my resume. I'm assuming this could be perceived as outright fraud on my part, meaning I'm already disqualified for a job through no fault of my own.

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

My soul, they're sucking my soul!

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 15 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, they do suck, don't they?

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Again, if the responsiblities match they probably wouldn't worry about it. (unless it went from VP to Bathroom Assistant.) If you're that worried about it, why don't you send out updated resumes why a cover letter/explanation? That could only serve to show you're still interested.

That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 15 May 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't send something like that because I have no idea who received my resume, or if they even received it!

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Most of what other people have said. Time and energy and. . . Lately I've been feeling more and more that I am essentially paid for being less than I could be.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in a semi similar sitch. I've only been working at this place three and some months. About a month ago, one of my superiors (sort of.. she wasn't my boss, but definitely higher in the ranks than myself) just QUIT one day and never came back. Tada, hello Mandee, you get her job! AND your old one! In the company handbook I am now listed twice, and I am the only person who is listed twice. I am doing two completely separate jobs--with no payraise (and I know the woman who quit made way more money than me, she had an MBA and had years of experience). I have seemingly the perks of a highpaying job: my own office, my own assistant... but no high pay. I do not want to complain as I am new here and plus I am leaving in three months (they do not know this, shh) to go back to school. Besides this, my boss is always complaining that because I do not work exactly 40 hours a week I technically should not receive company benefits. Does my job suck, or is it just me?

Mandee, Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Kenan, that's what I hate most about my job, too. Even though it's not an altogether bad job. Every time I wake up ready to write or otherwise be creative, I hafta come here. And then when I get home, I'm way too tired to do anything like that.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Mandee, is there any way you can get an audit from your HR? Of course, I don't work in a corporate environment, so I don't know what sort of policies they have. What fucking ripoff artists these people are - we need unions in the offices, I am so sick of this.

The woman I am subbing for demanded an audit for her job, since they were giving her all of these extra tasks. She ended up getting a raise and the grade level of her job was raised. Still, I will reap no benefit from subbing for her. :(

Name Withheld, Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the notion of doing it for no extra compensation (they are saving a *lot* of money by not hiring a temp) strongly offends my principles.

NW, I don't blame you for being offended, but a warning: I've worked at places where the employee manual refers to assignments of this sort as a development opportunity that paves the way for a possible future promotion. Your bosses (and HR department) may think that they're doing you a favor by offering you this opportunity.

Try to read the employee manual to see what if anything they say on this topic, and try asking HR in a friendly manner about the stipend or any other special considerations.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

There is some sense to this. I'm after a promotion, and I was basically told that the way to get it is to work at that higher level, and that is the judtification for the official promotion. I think they're being honest with me, so I pretty much am working as a Senior Analyst, with greater responsibilities than my current title and salary demand. It'll be late this year when I find out if I will get the official move.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 16 May 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)


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