Diary of Anne Frank: BANNED, Lord of the Flies: BANNED... oh my God, every book ever: BANNED

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Discuss!

David Allen, Thursday, 15 May 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

This is more a running story than a sudden new climate of fear, I think. Most of these books have faced similar reactions against them since their publication.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 May 2003 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - adolescent me made a VERY big deal out of our school library not having The Catcher in the Rye.

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 15 May 2003 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Wouldn't it be great if children learnt to curse and back-talk from harper lee, or socialism from the time machine.

I'm just aghast that there is such a proceedure in the states. I don't know that anyone would bother here.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 15 May 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto to what Ned said ... there's always stupid person somewhere in this very stupid nation that bans some book/record/whatever because that book/record/whatever doesn't comport with their worldview. it's shocking of course, but unless we round up the morons and kill them it's unavoidable. but nonetheless someone hopefully will call up the ACLU and fight this dumb shit.

Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 15 May 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

You could say ANYTHING in a book over here and no one would give a flying shit... you could probably get away with teaching it to 16 year olds as well.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

tell that to Salman Rushdie

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew someone would bring that up...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

or indeed to the spycatcher bloke whos name escapes me, or to kitty kelly, which i think are more pertinent examples, in that the satanic verses wasn't banned by any government body.

so basically you can say anything here except for slagging off the secret service or the royal family :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This makes me feel so fucking glad that I live in Portugal- we're reading "Look Back In Anger" fer English class and "Les Petits Enfants Du Siecle" (which, for those not in the know, features consensual pedophily between an eleven year old and a 30something guy, group sex, and a three year old who keeps talking about how he's gonna off his entire family, amongst other things) for French.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

oh come on, everybody hated having to read books in school

dave q, Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

b-b-b-b-but GROUP SEX!!!!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It bothers me how much the Christian Right are allowed to dictate what is allowed in the book collections of public schools and libraries. Just because something offends you doesn't mean that everyone else should be denied access to it.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

there is no need to speak in Heaven, is there, let alone read?

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't understand the argument of banning Lord of The Flies because, it's "demoralizing inasmuch as it implies that man is little more than an animal."

How is man ANYTHING more then animal? Because we wear pants we're not animals?

David Allen, Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like the bible banned because it's demoralising inasmuch as it implies that we should take no pleasure in life.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Because we wear pants we're not animals?

Yes, although when we take off our pants, we become animals again.

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Porky Pig Style

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(hey! I didn't know ilx did that! ['where have you been'])

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.metrotimes.com/sb/76842/daddy.jpg

Heh...

jm (jtm), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

The moustache is a nice touch.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Daddy's roommate is a gay cop!

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

If daddy was so flaming, then how did he meet mommy in the first place?

jm (jtm), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.angelfire.com/art/garfieldrocks/yman.gif

Lyman
Jon's former roommate. Lyman left the strip in 1983 but occasionally returns for anniversaries and other events. Lyman is the original owner of Odie but left him in Jon's care when he moved out.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Huckleberry Finn isn't typically "banned" by the religous right. In fact, I'd imagine that the vast majority of these books get into trouble for being sexually explicit or including a curse word or two. Clan of the Cave Bear, or something like that, is kicked out of school libraries due to an apolitical prudishness more than any "right wing" campaign.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Lyman has really bad teeth. I never noticed.

Frühlingsmute (Wintermute), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, although when we take off our pants, we become animals again.

The entire basis for the song "The Bad Touch".

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 15 May 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

My mother (a teacher) made a point of finding copies of every book the school library banned and giving them to my sister and me to read - and we passed them along to our friends. Still a horrible situation, though.

But this is more about people not taking responsibility for raising their own kids and expecting the schools to do the raising for them. And all with great constraint. ARRGGH!

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 15 May 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

my mother, also a teacher, would do the same thing.

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

*grin* Mothers are good things, aren't they?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Your mothers made you read Mein Kampf?!!!

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom bought me Madonna's Sex book!

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 15 May 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

That's even worse!

11,000,000 dead vs. Vanilla Ice nekkid!

hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I went to public school in Alabama and I read Huck Finn, The Invisible Man, East of Eden, a bunch of Harlem Renaissance stuff, and an autobiography by a black South African which contained explicit descriptions of boys being raped by older men etc. etc. I didn't read Rushdie until I got to college, though. In Tennessee.

Maybe I just got really, really lucky?

Millar (Millar), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar - You were very, very lucky. I was in California - home of advanced liberalism, at the tail-end of the hippie movement - and there was still book banning.

My mother confiscated two books from me, in my childhood Firestarter (I was eight at the time - probably a bit too young to understand the story) and a Harlequin Romance titled Bitter Honey by Violet Windspears, I seem to recall. Oh, and she confiscated my Synchronicity II tape - I never have forgiven her for the latter.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 17 May 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember reading a novel in high school which took this happening (to, I think, Huck Finn) as the central event of its plot - "The Day They Came To Arrest The Book" - I think this title was laughed at more by my peers than anything else I ever read

thom west (thom w), Saturday, 17 May 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

possibly the jacket didn't help:

thom west (thom w), Saturday, 17 May 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The censors' biggest coup is getting a pedestrian author like
Judy Blume (whose novels _may_ have more merit than the
Goosebumps series) mentioned alongside legends like Wells and
Harper Lee.

I've never read Rushdie, but I've heard that once you peer
past the controversy he's not all that great of an author.

squirl plise (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

dissing judy blume and salman rushdie in the same post!

slutsky (slutsky), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i may faint!

slutsky (slutsky), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/28/AR2010012804001.html

This is more a running story than a sudden new climate of fear, I think. Most of these books have faced similar reactions against them since their publication.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:32 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark

still so depressing

schlump, Saturday, 30 January 2010 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

One record dating to 1983 from an Alabama textbook committee said the book was "a real downer" and called for its rejection from schools.

Bama!

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Saturday, 30 January 2010 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

there should be a thing, when it turns out that a small town has banned a book from its library, allowing people outside of the area to contribute to a fund that would procure books for the availability of the town's citizens. so you'd donate $5 & then the people could go somewhere and pick up a free copy or could write off including their zipcode and get one in the mail.

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Monday, 1 August 2011 10:33 (fourteen years ago)

Are you having trouble procuring something, schlump?

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

ha, no; there was an article about a young adult novel, and vonnegut's slaughterhouse 5, both being banned from a town's schools on account of the recommendation of some cranky old dumbass prof, who objected to their content, which just meant it had been swirling around my head for a day or two, maybe combined with the library discussion on the public space thread. i wasn't trying to solicit you all into charitably buying me books my library doesn't have (p fox's desperate characters, incidentally).

i do not think the prof succeeded in banning undesirable things from happening or existing, just people being able to read about some of them

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

Fly over the town in a plane, towing the book behind you, one sentence per day.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Monday, 1 August 2011 13:41 (fourteen years ago)

http://coba.missouristate.edu/assets/coba/ScrogginsWesley1308.jpg

have spent considerable time over the past couple of years reviewing various curricula across numerous grades in the school district. ... For example, my review of the eighth-grade sex education curriculum revealed that children at the middle school are being introduced to concepts such as homosexuality, oral sex, anal sex and specific instructions on how to use a condom and have sex.

thomp, Monday, 1 August 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://coba.missouristate.edu/assets/coba/ScrogginsWesley1308.jpg

In English, children are also required to read a book called "Slaughterhouse Five." This is a book that contains so much profane language, it would make a sailor blush with shame. The "f word" is plastered on almost every other page. The content ranges from naked men and women in cages together so that others can watch them having sex to God telling people that they better not mess with his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ.

Lastly, there is a book in the library recommended for reading called "Twenty Boy Summer." This book glorifies drunken teen parties, where teen girls lose their clothes in games of strip beer pong. In this book, drunken teens also end up on the beach, where they use their condoms to have sex.

thomp, Monday, 1 August 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

laid into Laurie Halse Anderson's acclaimed novel Speak, which he felt "should be classified as soft pornography". is very O_o

remy bean, Monday, 1 August 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

Extra rage-inducing detail: the whiny parent in question HOME-SCHOOLS his kids.

Can't click the link right now (I'm at work and it's blocked), but if this is the same news story I read yesterday there's an amazing quote where he denounces a scene where teenagers "use their condoms to have sex."

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

God telling people that they better not mess with his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ

jeez i thought this guy was a christian

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:08 (fourteen years ago)

Dammit I need to learn how to type faster on this thing :(

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

In this book, drunken teens also end up on the beach, where they use their condoms to have sex.

God forbid they should use it for anything else than making animal figures

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 August 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

"hey babe, water balloon fights are fun and all... but do you think we could use these condoms for something else?"

corey, Monday, 1 August 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

God telling people that they better not mess with his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ

Genius prose right there.

his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ (Leee), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 04:52 (fourteen years ago)

The comma placements are glorious.

his loser, bum of a son, named Jesus Christ (Leee), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

i imagine that line being read by lenny bruce.

'why did we kill christ? it was because he wouldn't go to med school, the bum!'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 04:55 (fourteen years ago)

Does all that stuff actually happen in S5? Man, I gotta read it. Cats Cradle was all whiny diplomacy and perving.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 09:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/aug/08/kurt-vonnegut-banned-book-free <3

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Monday, 8 August 2011 13:39 (fourteen years ago)


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