― Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)
This, by the way, is really terrible advice.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
In particular Meercans beware - your beloved Budweiser is almost twice as strong in the UK.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Budvar is pretty good for a a hangover free evening but I dislike drinking 33cl bottles so I'll only have it if it's draft or in the big bottles. Staropramen is good for hangover free drinking too. Both are freerer from the chemical muck that gets into stella and carling.
Basically, try and avoid lager that's brewed in the UK because its full of chemical preservatives which seem to cause a worse hangover.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)
But yes, they're hangover-inducing primarily because they're pumped full of chemicals that are partly there as preservatives and also partly to make you thirsty, thus buying more beer.
I'm not sure I agree with Ed on Staropramen.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)
My friend Peter was proudly telling me about the legal standards applied to German beer, bless him, and denouncing British lager as filth. Ah, if I ruled the world...
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Drink a shandy or just drink slower is a good guide too.Ask for the cooking lager. Decided are you drinking for the taste or to get pissed, if the later then it is in your interest to be drinking weaker beer anyway.I usually change gear after three or four pints anyway.
Its not the preservatives that give you hangovers kids, its the ale (sorry but its true). Proof of this is in Germany where you can get some right rubbish hangovers quite happily (and they do). Ayengerbrau is brewed under the German Purity Laws and hence Sam Smiths is yet again tops - but they don't really do a session lager.
Of course the barrelage that a busy UK pub gets through means that the preservatives are environementally necessary if you are to reduce the delivery of barrels every day (causing much road congestion and pollution).
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)
D is a session lager. A session in hospital. Har.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
This thread only proves the need for an Ayinger Brauerei expose on the relaunched FT.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Obviously we are not talking about eliminating hangovers althogether, but I've noticed I've been getting particularly dirty lager hangovers recently.
The fat man is about 4.3%, I think.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Bud is 10% ABV in UK? What the fuck ever. Typical lager is 4.5%-5.5% everwhere, unless its what in the US is called "malt liquor", but that sort of thing almost always advertises it alcohol strength. "Lite" beer is in the 3.5%-4.5% range.
If you want to avoid hangovers, the best thing to help is to drink lots of water.
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.ayinger-bier.de/images/frontpages/frontpage.gif
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― robster (robster), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)
I stand correct vis a vis US Budweiser which is 5% everywhere except Utah, Colorado and Kansas (where it is 3.2%)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)
When I was at university, in my first year, I helpfully provided a chart for my corridor detailing the units of alcohol you got per pound in the drinks on sale around campus. Way out in front, with over 4 units per pound, was Londis own brand strong dry cider. Can you guess what I drank throughout my 1st year?
― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
I like Staropramen but seldom have it on tap, it's not available on tap here anywhere I've been. I thought Budvar et al were 5 percent in the Czech Republic when I was there. Am I wrong?
I don't know if any beer doesn't give you a hangover, my days of being able to say "I don't really get hangovers" are gone gone gone sadly.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)
For all the youngsters around be warned - hangovers get exponentially worse the older you get. Now I stick to a six pint limit (almost) all of the time, stay away from the shitty preservative-filled lagers (in fact, I've mostly gone back to bitter), and water over the course of the evening as well as before going to bed is essential.
Sometimes I fuck up. Saturday before last was the first morning in a long time I woke up with a proper hangover, but you need one of those every now and again just to remind you.
― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)
It's very rare that I drink lager, but if I do it'll be Star or wife-beater.
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)
price and taste dictates for me what i drink, i refuse to drink Heineken or Carling as it is just so damn horrid, christ its as bad as skol. Stella num num for me.When you get older i find its that, that dictates a hangover not the beer you are drinking. Oddly i can drink quite a lot of red wine without it affecting m,e to much but lager, forget about it i can have about a one pint maximum no hangover guarantee, anything over that and im screwed.
Star tastes like apples
― james (james), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)
In Glasgow last weekend a v nice Belgian Beer was £1.35 a pint. (Actually I think all the beers were that price)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― C J (C J), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― james (james), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Of course the Leffe and Hoegarden we get on tap in the UK is mainly brewed in the UK, what with Interbrew owning them. Just because it is brewed in the Uk it isn't necessarily crap, the preservatives aren't in the water. However the general balndness of most UK lagers is more a taste thing, no extremes, popular for everyone.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)
(The Budvar from the offy round the corner is definately imported, bossibly in a dirty white van, as the labels are all in czech)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Interesting copyright news:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2772205.stm
Details above come from the Pub & Bar manager intranet site, which is passport protected for members only.
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)
what the fuck were we all thinking
why was lager ever a thing
in the uk you can definitely sense the panic though
give it 25 years, i reckon lager is pretty much gone
except in australia
― Laertiades (imago), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:30 (ten years ago)
p.s. i'm quite drunk after a brewery tour (ale)
― Laertiades (imago), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:31 (ten years ago)
Almost all the best selling brewskies are some form of lager
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:42 (ten years ago)
an entire species conned by smart marketing
― Laertiades (imago), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:43 (ten years ago)
The majority of cold ones worldwide. What your suggesting would be quite the revolution.
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:43 (ten years ago)
i for one welcome our pale ale overlords, they are truly the kings of beer
― art, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:45 (ten years ago)
hate pale ale
― conrad, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:47 (ten years ago)
Pilsner Univerquell
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:47 (ten years ago)
I think this is, finally, the beer thread to break 500 new answers
― Laertiades (imago), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:48 (ten years ago)
I heard that stout is hoping for a brokered convention in which it can take the crown after lager and ale destroy each other in an apocalyptic flameout.
― leprechaundriac (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:49 (ten years ago)
as long as sixers of cheap lager continue to be the cheapest way to buy beer i will keep on drinking it
http://www.bcliquorstores.com/files/imagecache/product_larger/products/905000.jpg
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:49 (ten years ago)
xp If that happens I will be so mad at you LJ
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:49 (ten years ago)
Where can I get a six pack of 5% Pilsner for cheap?? The cheap pilsners in supermarkets are always about 2%.
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:52 (ten years ago)
vancouver obv
cheap canned ale is surely poised to become a thing everywhere tho
― Laertiades (imago), Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:53 (ten years ago)
That really depends on where you are, Brewseph
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 17:53 (ten years ago)
xps to conrad - seems like pale ales are a binary state, either you love them over all things or they disgust you. for me it's like, bring on the palest hoppy'est ale you can find. there really is no limit ime
― art, Thursday, 24 March 2016 18:00 (ten years ago)
i feel so unhip still drinking doppelbock
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 24 March 2016 18:04 (ten years ago)
If it wasn't for cheap lager the proletariat uprising would have occurred decades ago in the UK, but I still love it :p
― calzino, Thursday, 24 March 2016 19:49 (ten years ago)
Pale Ale is definitely my favorite regular drinking beer -- Dale's or Sierra Nevada. I can do without IPAs though.
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:02 (ten years ago)
germany will always be drinking lager
― just sayin, Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:57 (ten years ago)
Helles yeah
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:59 (ten years ago)
just sayin
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 20:59 (ten years ago)
germans already know how to make good beer, hope they don't go through this microbrew wheel reinvention thing
― human life won't become a cat (man alive), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:00 (ten years ago)
i'll fuck with some Brooklyn Lager in the summer but they're not necessarily cheap
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:01 (ten years ago)
Germany should be treated as an oddity and excluded from any discussion of international beer culture. However, the country with the best beer in the world still drinks more Jupiler than anything else iirc.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:02 (ten years ago)
idk i recently went to Germany for the first time and people were telling me about all this amazing beer before hand. get to Germany where there are a ton of different breweries making the same three beers.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:03 (ten years ago)
That is exactly correct. German beer all tastes the same and has done for approx 500 years.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:04 (ten years ago)
noooo there is so much variation among german beers
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:04 (ten years ago)
not that they were bad and compared to domestic macros they were great but not all that.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:05 (ten years ago)
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3695/115325/
this is one of my favorite brewskies of all time
― Treeship, Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:05 (ten years ago)
― just sayin, Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya was gonna make a joke and say what have you got against the germans but
i'm stuck in the old country drinking lagers, bocks, and dunkels
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 24 March 2016 21:08 (ten years ago)