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Search and Destroy the grebts of bready products!
What kind? What on them?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I know we've done at least one thread on this, surely...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, there was some long guessing-game typa thread that ended in the everything bagel being pronounced the king of bagels, a sentiment I heartily disagree with

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolute tops: Salt bagels with jalapeno cream cheese.

Also grebbit: Sesame bagels, onion bagels, garlic bagels, cheese bagels, poppy seed bagels, and many (but not all) kinds of everything bagels. Horseradish cream cheese, scallion cream cheese, garlic and herb cream cheese, or cream cheese and lox -- but not lox chopped up in cream cheese (good in theory, I've just never experienced its goodness in practice).

Not My Bagel: sweet bagels in general (the bakery out here, which is the St Louis Bread Company elsewhere and I forget what here, makes all their bagels very sweet, nearly as sweet as danishes), the various fruit danishes, fruit cream cheeses, etc. The whole joy of the bagel is having something savory for breakfast that's still bready! Otherwise just get a donut/danish/etc.

Destroy: frozen bagels (although I'm sure they're better than when I was a kid), grocery store bagels that are just kaiser rolls shaped like bagels, and unfortunately, my homemade bagels, which are ugly and labor-intensive and not terribly tasty and go stale in about six hours.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

sweet bagels are nasty!

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Cinnamon raisin bagels roxx, u r all gay.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Bagels can be plain, or sesame, or poppy seed, but NOTHING ELSE!!

Bagel Rockist (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The best bagel is a sesame bagel with cream cheese, thinly-sliced cucumber, black pepper, and lemon juice.

*drool*

Bagelist (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Adam, don't forget salt. Salt bagels are also among the holy. And they are the best. From H&H. Fresh. Warm. Divine.

I don't think I've ever had a good bagel outside of NYC, however.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I never met a bagel I didn't like except for this one misguided, whole wheat deal that was like eating mulch.

Oh yeah, Goldstein's bagels rule!

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

You need to go to North or East London, Chris. It's a different kind of "good", but one I'm sure anyone can appreciate.

Boogie Woogie Bagel Boy, 1281 Gilman St, Berkeley, CA (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Cinnamon raisin bagels roxx, u r all gay.

(with a small shmear of plain "lite" cream cheese)

Priscilla Beaulieu Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone know the story of the origin of the bagel? I don't, but I'm sure it is fascinating.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Bagel (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a pumpkin bagel this morning at a drive-through coffee bar in Sunset Beach. The pumpkin taste was great, but the bagel itself was inferior. I've never had a good bagel outside of NYC either.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

shmear is a funny word. I hadn't heard that until I visited NYC.

The Archangel Bagriel (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, finally someone comes on this thread and is right. Cinnamon raisin with some cream cheese, you people are all unholy to deny this.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure I've ever had a cinnamon raisin bagel, but it's probably better than the just-plain-weird sweet bagels like honey-frosted-corn-flake-surprise ("surprise, there are corn flakes in your damn bagel") and vanilla-blueberry-walnut. And I'm usually a defender of weird foods (witness my love of the McGriddle!)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Cinnamon raisin must have butter, and lots of it. Nothing else! Mentalists.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

OK where the hell are you finding honey frosted corn flake bagels??

Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I honest to God did not make that up. That was either here or on the road trip here, I forget which. It was this ... sweet honey bagel thing ... rolled in sweetened corn flakes. It looked like some kind of spiky health food porcupine donut.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm such a bagel rockist.

and I hereby present the origin of the bagel: they were invented by a Polish baker as a gift to the king, who was a riding fanatic.

the shape was supposed to resemble a saddle. or whatever you call those things that go around the horse and you sit on them. I know it's sketchy.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

history of mtl's beloved fairmount bagels can be found here:

http://english.montrealplus.ca/infosite/477826/3.html

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

tasting a piece of history c/d?

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had what I assume are bagels possibly close to as-good-as-NYC ones here, as I live in a very Jewish 'hood. They make proper jewish boiled bagels, and they are delicious - moist and heavy and they toast up very nicely with cream cheese and pesto on top, yes thankyou.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

cinnamon and raisin bagels = yuck

I like egg bagels best.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

This past Saturday morning, I had a "taralli" bagel from Greg's Bagels, toasted, with a schmear of cream cheese, topped by moist and meaty chunks of Wolfhead custom hot-smoked salmon from Canada's frigid North. Hard to imagine it getting much better than that.

Sweet bagels are fine with me, though I hardly ever eat 'em, and almost never with cream cheese when I do. That said, I have never understood chocolate in bagels--white, dark, bittersweet, whatever. It seems unnatural somehow.

Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

eww I've never even heard of that! GOYIM!

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Goyishe alchemy, this chocolate bagel nonsense.

Tower Of bagel (adaml), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

If you eat a bologna and Miracle Whip sandwich on a chocolate bagel, your foreskin will grow back.

Even if you're a girl.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

haha what about ham and butter on a bagel?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You turn into Pat Boone!

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

whoops!

pat b (rosemary), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I love everything

(also blueberry with strawberry cream cheese)

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i kill for bagels with veggie spread

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You make the bagels with meaty spread do their own killin, though.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

B-b-but is it bagel or beigel???

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

BEIGEL

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

the beigel/bagel fite begins!!

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Beigels are lifeless, nasty, horrid, tough BEIGE things, hence why they are called BEIGEls. Bagels are the most perfect breadform every invented. And Bagels On The Square in Greenwich Village is the best place in the world to get them!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

What Is The Best Kind of Bagel?
Taking sides: The Bagel Factory vs Ixxys vs Delimento

The search function is rather spiffy these days.

Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

loose onion bagels from Sainsbury's are pretty fabby, i wish i had one right now smeared with that cheese n' spring onion spread they do, and pastrami, with english mustard

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No question, no question, no question, no question

Ess-a-Bagel established in 1976 on 21st Street and 1st Avenue

http://www.ess-a-bagel.com/

Skottie, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Never mind Bagels, what about Pretzels?
Where cab I get me a nice pretzel encrusted with pumpkin seeds in Cardiff?

mei (mei), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

ess-a-bagel is okay. my favorite is kossar's on grand and essex. recipe for a great sunday: pick up cream cheese, smoked fish, dried fruit, etc, at russ and daughters on houston and orchard. walk down to essex and over to kossar's for bagels and onion disks. go sit in the park at grand and chrystie. eat. sit around.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

My favourite is NOT Sainsbury's bagels, as they're not very nice. But I can't find aything better without putting effort in. Sigh. Though if anyone can tell me where to look in Soho for delicious bagels I'll be very pleased.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I am eating a cinammon raisin bagel covered in cream cheese right now. What do you all have the say about that, you bagel rockists?

Allyzay, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The everything bagel is an abomination in the eyes of God.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i'll deal with your bagel deviance later Allyzay - um, the Sainsbury's bagels ARE nice - as long as they're loose and you get them early enough in the day. the ones in packs suck. maybe i'm thinking of Tesco's tho.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

so Mark are you working in Soho now?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

everything bagels are nowhere near as bad as blueberry bagels. gah!

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

bergen's jalapeno cream cheese is a++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

mizzell, Friday, 3 April 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

i've been wanting to try jalapeno cream ch!

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

all other cream cheeses now taste bad to me.

right thread, Ned (mizzell), Friday, 3 April 2009 15:33 (sixteen years ago)

do it! you will not regret

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

cream cheese from real bagel places is like dunking a bagel in peanut butter ice cream to me. butter all the way. do any of you hit up places that do unusual bagel variations? i am collecting knowledge on finding herbal sourdough/pumpkin/strawberry locations in ny.

many bagels a day anyway.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

wait what does that mean, peanut butter ice cream? like it's too much cream cheese?

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

peanut butter ice cream on a bagel sounds great btw

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

i occasionally do butter but it's usually cream cheese v. egg bacon and cheese for me

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

i do like thinly spread c.c. tho and not AVALANCHE

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

you know what's reall good? a thin spread of cc and bacon.

right thread, Ned (mizzell), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

pig + c.c. is so decadent but yeah undeniable

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

(i made salami + c.c. canapes for a party once)

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

One of the perks of my job is every Friday morning, we have fresh bagels delivered to us from a nearby bagel company. There's lots of different varieties and they are mmm mmm good. We also have a bunch of different cream cheese flavors, but I prefer to bring my own fat free cream cheese.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

i miss bagels!

69, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

place near my gf's house makes these incredible breakfast sandwiches on bagels. i am damn near addicted to them. egg, sharp cheddar, pancetta.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

is there anywhere that does good hand-rolled non-generic deli bagels downtown kinda central, not hitting the 1st/12th st fringes with the best old school places? i want to pick some up after work.

the peanut butter ice cream thing just refers to how cream cheese avalanche makes me want to choke, like having that mouth-coating quality peanut butter has, but being in massive swirly form like ice cream.

quintessential bagel accompaniaments: tomato soup; avocado (not at once)

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

omg wow

i did salami and cc the other day! was gr8

PS i feel silly but i actually EAT allll the cc they put on my bagels now :/ but it's low-fat!

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

the wow was @ pancetta

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i had never really had much experience w/pancetta but it is sickkkk

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

current standing of my bagel variation expeditionary work detailed below:

ess-a-bagel 51st/3rd: pumpernickel raisin (downtown ess does not toast, damn purists)

bagel place down the street from masonic temple, BK: weird pink strawberry bagel

bagel place i guess around north first next to metropolitan pool in williamsburg: regular specials like pumpkin, some weird kind of swirly candy bagel, chocolate, alluringly purple blueberry bagel, jalapeno cheddar (currently). oatbran raisin is good.

bagelsmith, as above: sourdough

place a second away from west fourth/ifc center, heading southeast: herbal sourdough, blueberry variation, sundried tomato, seven grain, dark russian pumpernickel-esque bagel.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

collecting knowledge on finding herbal sourdough/pumpkin/strawberry locations in ny

Oh my GOD what I wouldn't do for a pumpkin bagel. Crikey.

I agree about the peanut butter ice cream analogy, the whipped cream cheeses we get are really...it's too much. I don't like an avalanche, either.

Avocado on any type of bread = A+++

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

^^

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

the other day i had sesame encrusted french bread with salami and avocado OMG

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

sorry off subject...

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

There's a place on the eastside of the Seattle area that does French Toast bagels...good, but very sweet.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

I think they do like some kind of apple pie variation as well.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

Avocado on any type of bread = A+++

word. i pretty much live off avocados, but they're real good for you.
forgot french toast bagel at the will.i.amsburg place too, in case anyone is transcribing the above into a handy pocket guide.

pumpkin bagel was excellent. i am not american and was totally intrigued by the beatlemania-esque fever of pumpkin harvest time.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

place a second away from west fourth/ifc center, heading southeast: herbal sourdough, blueberry variation, sundried tomato, seven grain, dark russian pumpernickel-esque bagel.

i'm trying to picture where this is - bagels on the square?

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

beatlemania-esque fever of pumpkin harvest time.

Oh hell yeah. I even used to be into pumpkin beer for awhile, until the brewery here changed their recipe. I love pumpkin anything...pie, muffins, hell...one Thanksgiving recently this lady made pumpkin bread pudding...incredible. Ha! I even eat pumpkin puree right out of the can, I'm serious.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:01 (sixteen years ago)

streetview tells me yes, that's the one. they have a pretty broad selection. herbal sourdough = o k. am kinda intrigued by the blueberry one because it's labelled as B.E.D or something that doesn't correspond to being exclusively blueberry themed. potential berry medley bagel: will keep you posted.

about pumpkins: i was asking around to try to determine the roots of it, and i think it was a staple way back when, for like settlers maybe; it feels like there is this over-arching pumpkin narrative i am missing out on. but seeing pumpkin butter and pumpkin everything spring out all of a sudden was nice.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

most canned pumpkin is actually butternut squash.

right thread, Ned (mizzell), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

nah, I don't believe that. I've eaten butternut squash out of the can, too!

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway, what's the deal with strawberry bagels though? Whenever I've had these strange pink colored things, they don't actually have a strawberry taste. Anyone have a different opinion?

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

there is no such thing as strawberry taste outside of strawberries really though. strawberry flavour references strawberry flavour, not the fruit.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

i am not really down w/ the idea of fruit-flavored bagels (or fruit anywhere near my bagel in general)

the pains of being melissa joan hart (donna rouge), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

ahhh i would kill for an everything bagel w tomato and cream cheese

69, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:24 (sixteen years ago)

also yknow whats mostly gnarly, but kind of good? everything bagel w plain cream cheese and orange marmalade

69, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

I miss living 2 blocks from Bergen Bagels

bear, bear, bear, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:29 (sixteen years ago)

i like your username bear, bear, bear

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

um...

oh yeah, i LOVE strawberry creamcheese on a poppy. nothing like it. and the place near me, they actually have like HUGE chunks of strawberry in there

Surmounter, Friday, 3 April 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

Wowza!

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 3 April 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

Man, Tofu Scallion CC on Everything..

bear, bear, bear, Friday, 3 April 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

if i was able to find a vendor who would spread flatly and exercise restraint, that's the one i'd go for. + walnut variations.

corps of discovery (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

I like this bagel sandwich from Russ & Daughters: pumpernickel bagel, scallion cream cheese, lox, onions, tomatoes, capers. I also like the bialys(ies?) from Kossars, but whenever I bring them home they are like the poor bagel stepchildren.

I thought I was going to try and give up bagels, but unfortunately I live around the corner from a passable bagelry (Brooklyn Bagels) even though it's confusing since I live in Queens.

My willpower shrunk to nothing and I bought 3 "mini" pumpernickel bagels (this means they are about 3/4 the size of a giant bagel, "nonfat" cream cheese and lox.

Are bagels bad for you? Tell me the truth.

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

Also, whole wheat bagels: a healthier choice or self-delusion?

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)

I miss being able to go to East London regularly and get proper bagels. DAMN YOU RUBBISH SUPERMARCHE BAGELS THAT TASTE LIKE BUMMING.

That is all.

The last Gooner optimist: (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

dense chewy bagels in nyc => murray's bagels at #4

Should I go there? I have yet to find the dense compact chewy bagels that I expected to find in NYC. Everything tastes too much like bread.

youn, Thursday, 15 July 2010 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

if you wanted dense chewy bagels you missed montreal by about 600km, dawg

but seriously i am no help on nyc bagels. the only ones i had when i was there were RUBBISH

Quantic Dream, So Hard To Beat (Will M.), Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

I live 7 blocks from an Ess-A-Bagel but a) I haven't been there yet because it's too hot to walk that far, but fall weekends it will prob be a LIFE STAPLE, and b) I grew up on Lender's so I always wish "real" bagels had that slight...sourness.

the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

I found Montreal bagels in Hendon Central!

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 15 July 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)


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