I’m in long-for-me relationship with a very nice guy. He’s clever, funny and kind. Of course, since he’s clever, funny and kind, I’m bored. It’s not working for me.
So I’m trying to figure out the best way to end things. I know that the general advice is ‘be honest, avoid cliches’, but I think that ‘It’s not working for me’ is as much of a cliché as anything else.
Two elements that add to the drama of the situation: 1. It’s our 1-year anniversary coming up. I was hoping he (since he’s a boy), would forget and we wouldn’t have to deal with it, but he rang me and asked what I wanted to do for our anniversary.2. About a week after the anniversary, we’re going on holiday together. It’s already booked and paid for, and tickets are non-refundable.
So am I right in thinking that I should wait until we get back from the holiday, rather than ruining it for both of us?
If you were him in this situation, what would be the easiest/least painful way forward?
― notsaying, Monday, 22 March 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)
no useful advice for you, just curious about your decision sorry
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)
xpost
― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Heck, it's cold and it's March. Things may well warm up. Take three months and call us in the morning, Monday June 7th.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)
He's going to get hurt whatever happens, you'll have to ensure that it's merely very sad indeed for him and not a full-on emotional trainwreck.
The holiday thing is difficult, the anniversary less so. Going away together when you're in that kind of emotional state could well be a nightmare. Are you 100% sure there's no way to get out of the holiday? Can you get away with throwing away that kind of money? On the other hand how good are you at faking being happy with him? Would you wait until after the trip just to spare his feelings?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)
x-post
― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Matt, I'm pretty good at faking things, and I think we could probably have an OK time on the holiday. I have an obligation to go, and he's joining me for the first weekend of the trip. So it's only about 4 days of together time. And I would be willing to wait until we're both back to spare his feelings.
I actually think the anniversary is a bigger deal. I can't imagine sitting at a dinner celebrating our relationship without feeling like utter crap.
This is something that has happened, in a smaller way, to me in the past. I do a great job of landing in relationships with lovely guys that bore me after a while. I have no idea if this is something that I just need to get used to, or if I haven't yet met anyone that challenges me in the right way to keep me from getting bored.
(Xposts that I'll come back to)
― notsaying, Monday, 22 March 2004 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)
with......"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)
Stevem, there are surely cons, but it’s nothing really bad. If I sat down and wrote up a chart of pros and cons, it completely makes sense to stay with him. But is this really about making sense? If I’m in a situation where I don’t want to be with him anymore, and am feeling bored and restless, isn’t that enough?
I’ll admit that situations like this frustrate me. I’ve had several really wonderful boyfriends over the years, with no major flaws except that they bore me after 3,6, 12 months. I’m thinking this is obviously a sign that this means it is my flaw, rather than theirs, but that doesn’t solve the immediate problem. Things aren’t working for me, and it’s making the time we spend together a little stilted, since I’m sitting there thinking about what I should do, etc.
And on the anniversary, I'll actually be out of town for the day itself, so I think I'll just suggest that we pass on it and save our money for a nice dinner on the holiday?
― notsaying, Monday, 22 March 2004 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)
Only if you want to time-limit every relationship you will ever have. They all get to this stage, and you havbe to muck in and (cliche alert) Make It Work.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)
However, I just don't want to be with him. That isn't going to change, unfortunately. Maybe I'll just keep getting 'better' and better as I get older and wiser, and this will happen less and less frequently, but right now, this is dead.
So, yeah. It would be useful to share your best/worst breakup stories, so I can try to learn from your experience.
― notsaying, Monday, 22 March 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)
notsaying - I don't envy your approach to relationships. Hope it goes okay. I'd be tempted to do it like now - I can't stand waiting for things like this.
(p.s. you're not my girlfriend, are you?)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't think not going on the holiday is an option, regardless of where this relationship stands.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
All I really know is, tell him everything now. (Blokes' feelings are usually more robust than women give them credit for.)
― Bunged Out (Jake Proudlock), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)
A "commitment" is not a case of finding *the* perfect person with whom you can have a perfect relationship, it's getting to a point in your life where you feel ready to have a comitted relationship - with all the compromises and real life problems that that involves.
Maybe your boredom is a symptom of the fact that something else in your relationship is going wrong. (Or else maybe something else your life entirely that needs sorting out.) Maybe you need to reexamine what it is that you want from a relationship... (or maybe that will come with time and experience)
...I mean, the first successful relationship that I've had is one which I find an *escape* from drama and excitement (in a negative sense). Do I get bored with it sometimes? Sure I do, but that's what a rich fantasy life is for. But it took me a LONG time (33 years to be exact) to learn what to leave in fantasy and what to learn to live with in reality.
Anyway... you know all this crap. I can't really offer you any advice on the specifics of *how* to break up with someone. There really is no easy way. Though I echo the "sooner rather than later" sentiments. I know it's tempting to take the lazy way and go on holiday with someone who will drive you nuts and let things blow up into a huge head and explode... but it's *easier* on both of you not to do that.
"Look, honey, we need to talk..." is usually the best policy, and then just spill everything you've mentioned here.
― The River Kate (kate), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm in the EXACT SAME situation (but substitute 'girlfriends'). I do fear that I'm a commitmentophobe, and was really starting to get worried about it recently at the end of another typical 3 month 'mini-relationsihp'. I just wind up calling them off whenever the push for a stonger/long-term commitment arises because I'm not interested anymore. I don't even feel upset about it. I do think the "it's not you it's me" is 100% true in my case, even if it sounds like total bullshit. Since I assume you feel somewhat similar, please don't think of it is as 'flaw' - if you do, then the situation will definitley keep repeating itself. (warning: cliche ahead) You simply have to live with yourself knowing that you just haven't met the right person yet. This is what keeps me from becoming seriously freaked out about my attitude towards relationships.
But that's a whole separate issue for another thread... As for the act of breaking up, the worst method I used was the "avoid it, be dull and boring and they'll either break up with you first or won't care when you break up with them". Even though it's harder to do, the wisest break-ups are done as soon as you 'know' that it isn't right for you (which judging by your posts is where you are at). It's honest, and it doesn't waste the other person's time - life is too short to fake it, in my opinion. I am still friends with the people that I have gone through this with, and they have told me that in retrospect they were glad I did what I did - even though it sucked at the time. They say they have more respect for me as a person since I approached them as an open book, shared what I was feeling, and tried to explain 'why' it had to end. A tip: hold the honesty back a bit on the 'why' part - limit it to YOU, and not them. 100% honesty can be terribly cruel (I find you boring, you aren't smart, you're bad in bed, etc). Only discuss a problem you have with them if it is a truly negative characteristic that if changed would help them in ANY future relationships they may have.
― commitmentophobe, Monday, 22 March 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Monday, 22 March 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Hi Everybody, well is there true love? I've been here just pondering, and thought I'd ask. Gale -- Gale Deslongchamps, November 25th, 2001
Answers
hi gale! no. jess. -- jess, November 25th, 2001
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Thanks for the thoughts from Kate and Commitmentophobe. It's nice to know I'm not the only person around that's like this. I guess I'm just not ready to 'settle down' yet (that phrase gives me the heebie jeebies, as well).
Maybe Mr. Phobe and I should have a 3-month fling and see who gets bored first!
― notsaying, Monday, 22 March 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
(not that I can be described as a lurker, really)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
My advice is don't go on the holiday, really, you'll want to be ebding it all and he'll be guessing that and it'll only hurt him the more. I think the only thing to do is to do it soon, cauterizing the wound so to speak.
― chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)
He was my age!
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)
^^^this guy goes around telling ppl this
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 29 September 2008 01:36 (seventeen years ago)
He’s clever, funny and kind. Of course, since he’s clever, funny and kind, I’m bored. It’s not working for me.
Fucking hell women are incomprehensible. It makes me sad.
― chap, Monday, 29 September 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)
the only way to break-up is via text message.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/08/divorce_by_text_message.html
― pterodactyl, Monday, 29 September 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)
chap in all fairness that isnt a female thing, its a "gits who are hopeless at decent relationships" thing. Plenty of guys I know who are get bored easily too.
Seeing someone ELSE go thru this at the moment: knowing he doesnt love a girl who loves him and thinks he loves her and I know the truth and he's my best friend but FUCK it makes me mad that he wont come clean with her cause its just easier this way and &*^$%$ god.
― Trayce, Monday, 29 September 2008 01:51 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I know. I'm a bit lovelorn at the moment myself though, which tends to make one a bit sexist.
― chap, Monday, 29 September 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)
― The River Kate (kate), Monday, 22 March 2004 13:23 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ha ha hah, and then *I* got dumped in the worst possible, most shit way three months from that post. Ain't life a funny thing?
I've gone from He’s clever, funny and kind. Of course, since he’s clever, funny and kind, I’m bored. It’s not working for me. to "he's clever, funny and kind - he will never in a million years want to go out with *me*."
― Kate And The King (Masonic Boom), Monday, 29 September 2008 12:52 (seventeen years ago)
maybe she thinks you're sexist
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Monday, 29 September 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)
I wish I knew how notsaying's been since this
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
i know you're supposed to do this in person, but i hate the awkward logistics of it. do you invite them out specifically b/c "we need to talk"? their place, your place? get down to it right away? ugh.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)
btw i put this thread title in my google doc of potential song titles
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/images/dumpsville_2_1.jpg
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)
How long is/was the relationship?
― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)
(And how involved/serious?)
less than a month, not that serious, but just enough where i would feel bad doing it over the phone or letting it slide
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
(this is like the prime awkwardness window i think, where it's not really a relationship but it's a little more than just a couple of dates)
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)
you really race thru em dontcha
― claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:13 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
what can i say, it ain't easy to find a decent girl in this town.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:23 (Yesterday) Bookmark
^_^
― claudestock carpentinieri (country matters), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
(nabisco stands, fingers ready upon the dials, waiting to perform the fine calibrations necessary to perform this delicate task)
― Aimless, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
this may not be too easy due to winter, but I've found going for a walk to break the news can work pretty well
― ┃♜ฺ│♞ฺ│♝ฺ│♛ฺ│♚ฺ│♝ฺ│♞ฺ│♜ฺ┃ (dan m), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
I think that time span is the hardest time to do it, because the message is pretty clearly "now that I've gotten to know you a bit, I've decided I'll pass." Which is totally fair and normal, but rough. You can't even break up under the cover of a larger discussion of your relationship and its problems, because ... that's not really what you're doing.
Umm definitely pick her place over yours, so that you can have the talk you need to, leave, and then she's at home alone to deal with it however she deals with it. The most reasonable route I can imagine is calling with an apologetic-sounding "do you think I could stop by tonight? There's something I need to talk to you about" (sounding grim and grave enough that it's pretty clear something's wrong, and she's not blindsided), then dropping by, doing your thing all straightforward and reasonable, and then bidding adieu.
xpost - walking is brilliant
― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)
If she seems particularly into this relationship, I would recommend coming up with some talking points in advance politely summarizing why you feel the match is not a good one. (But don't let yourself wind up discussing or dissecting the talking points.)
― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)
see why I don't date?
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)
Morbius, not-dating because breakups are awkward seems like some Hallmarky proverb about fear holding you back from life!
― nabisco, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:49 (seventeen years ago)
or "The Beast in the Jungle."
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)
I was just funnin', the reason I don't date is bcz I've met no one worth surrendering my autonomy for. I mean, a whole other person in your life, daily? WEIRD.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 January 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
A walk sounds nice, but I think any way you can do it where she doesn't have to walk/catch the bus home while crying (that is, if she's likely to be upset by the breakup) is better.
― marianna lcl, Monday, 5 January 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
Three years and he breaks up with me by text. Prob shouldn't be posting about this here to a bunch of strangers, but it's basically better than me typing and erasing, typing and erasing, typing and erasing the perfect response.
― Roz, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)
Sorry to hear that. Those who do the dumping should be required to present the dumped on with a nice consolation prize, like a washer-dryer set, to take a bit of the edge off the pain. Alternatively, you are permitted to punch a pillow repeatedly, while saying what's on your mind at high volume. It's not much, but it is better than running it over and over silently i your head.
― Aimless, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
I'm sorry Roz, that hurts. It's cowardly of him to do this via text and you deserve better.
― the tune was space, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)
roz :(
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)
ugh, what a dick move. hope you've got some kind of satisfying distraction lined up that'll keep you from watching your phone for responses to your response.
― He is "The Developer" and the children view him with a deep susp (c sharp major), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
Ugh so sorry roz :(
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
the best response would be to text yourself to his phone, pop out of his phone, throw his phone off an overpass and say "text THAT, loser." then just walk away really cool.
― how's life, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)
this is inexcusable and beneath contempt. feel like the perfect response might be to just cut them off cold.
sympathies
― I like to tackle hard and am crazy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 October 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
I would: not answer, delete text, cut him dead. So sorry, Roz.
― aldi young dudes (suzy), Friday, 11 October 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)
Thirded. Not worth revenge.
― the tint-shifted anigif from DOWNTOWN ABBEY (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)
Sorry Rozif I was to get dumped by text my plan would be to pretend I didn't receive it and carry on being in the relationship, and see how long it takes them to MAN UP
― kinder, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)
i'm sorry Roz. :(
― reckless woo (Z S), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)
ok kinder's response is kinda great, not sure how feasible but it would be great to see the reaction.
in all sincerity though, sorry to hear that Roz.
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)
All of the above roz.
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Friday, 11 October 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
Thanks for the kind words all. Anyway, in the end, I called him instead and chewed him out, and then we had a long and teary breakup over the phone. tbh I'd seen this coming for a while and was planning to break up with him myself after my trip to Japan (for work) next week. But now it looks like I'm gonna spend my 9 days there feeling crappy and unfocused and shit.
Getting off the internet to go lie in bed and listen to slowdive on repeat.
― Roz, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)
the text message breakup is attractive sometimes, to be honest. right now, i'm trying to figure out what the hell i'm going to do or say. i want to break up in a pleasant, sympathetic way that leaves her feeling like she hasn't done anything wrong and so she knows what an amazingly nice and intelligent and sweet person she is. and we have many friends in common, and honestly, as much as i like spending time with her, it seems more dishonest and fucked up to continue pretend that it's a viable enterprise and making plans (she keeps asking me about a potential trip to poland at christmas to go to her friend's wedding)-- and at the end of the day i'm an unhappy motherfucker that would rather be doing what i'm doing right now which is sitting pantsless on my bed listening to the smiths and smoking cigarettes and refreshing site new answers and telling strangers about my private anxieties.
― dylannn, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)
and i'm still in love with a girl that refuses to live in the same city as me but still loves me, and as much as i'm happy to spend time with this girl and be referred to as her boyfriend, there's always a sad feeling that i've done all this before with the girl i really love and it was an important, sublime turning point in my life and doing it again right now, it just means nothing to me.
sunday, i said i was feeling sick, hoping to get out of hanging out with her, but i couldn't say no in the end and she brought me a thermos of chrysanthemum and pear tea and that gesture of kindness and concern made me feel even more like a manipulative fraud. she wanted to spend the night at my place and i turned her down and said i was tired and i'd spend monday with her and then after i sent her home, i ended up going out and seeing her friend at a bar, so i told her that i was going out, to head off her friend saying something to her. then i came home at 5 in the morning and slept all day and didn't respond to her texts or calls until she said she was worried about me and i texted back, "i'm fine" and went back to ignoring texts/calls. the whole experience fills me with self-loathing and i feel shitty about subjecting another person to my fucked up internal life or whatever.
so, tomorrow, i guess i'll tell her i don't want to continue, but i have no idea what to say but i'm thinking a variation on: you're a great person and i've had so many good times with you but i don't think we're right for each other in a romantic way and i'm afraid i'm going to hurt you even more if we stay together, and i hope we can be friends and i'll even go to your friend's wedding in poland, if you want, but if you never want to talk to me again, that's not what i want but i respect it.
― dylannn, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)
that sounds good
― flopson, Monday, 21 October 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
Look just do it before, yeah, it gets worse.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 21 October 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)
I say this as someone who has been broken up with because "I don't like who I am when I'm with you" from a man who had been subjecting me to small cruelties and lashing out.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 21 October 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)
D-man, that's a fair way to do it. However, unless you truly do want to (and will) hang out with her as friends, I would leave out the 'hope we can be friends' part. It sounds like she is pretty serious about this relationship. Sometimes in that scenario it is best to be away from each other, just so she can get over it. It'll make it easier for her, I think.
Now, I'm not saying you should not hang out as friends, but let her tell you if she wants that.
Hope it went well.
Oh, also, this other girl you have pretty strong feelings for, if you guys dated and it's been a while and you still have feelings for her, I say feel things out and see where it goes. Is your moving to her city bad for your career and her moving to yours bad for hers?
― c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)
http://rookiemag.com/2013/10/making-a-clean-breakup/
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:09 (twelve years ago)