1. So you turn yourself inside out, agree a thousand times that if she doesn't want you then no, she's not right for you, that she's not the person you imagine her to be, that your feelings are faulty, that someone else will be the right one, that it will be better... But then you remember that she's probably going to end up with someone who will fall for pretty much the same things as you fell for, for the things that you're supposed to be denigrating, but that he won't be expected to suffocate those feelings, that in his case they'll be the ones to be trusted, acted upon and cherished. And you're back to square one.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― penelope_111, Monday, 26 April 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
3. it's often very difficult to let go of anger.
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)
Cross-post.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
4. because they still have a bunch of your stuff you'd really like back.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
heheh x-post w/ alex
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
oh dear. this thought makes me want to take to my bed, forever.
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
damn xposts
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― penelope_111, Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
x-post (heh Ned, I'm an hour into that already, so I've got nothing to lose...)
― carson dial (carson dial), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― hgyf, Monday, 26 April 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)
however for my male friends and acquaintences it seems to have been far more traumatizing. their relationships end, they become total man-whores, waiver between extreme disdain and total nostalgia, then fall back into having ex-girlfriend sex, then later discover their exes are seeing someone new and these guys either become severely depressed or angry over that.
anyone else notice this......i don't know. maybe i've been cursed with having such melodramatic male friends.
― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)
don't know about that in actuality, though i understand feeling that way. maybe acted upon, but (totally and completely?) trusted and cherished seem ambitious for anyone in any relationship ever. . .and are concepts which i think generally spring from the kind of "delicious" romanticism of loss which john darnielle spoke of. a relationship can be alternately like stockholm syndrome, or quietly rewarded hard work, but it's never so consummately realised as you would have it be in your mind, particularly when in this state. though i do understand seeing even relationship problems as problems you'd like to have, rather than ones pertaining to being strictly on your own. but here it just would come down to whether there is any integrity to your unrequited's new situation. i've personally both seen them run off to arms of chumps, and i've seen them (or at least one) leave the chumps for me. and now i think we are all just ants basically. and "success" always comes down to honest decisions and integrity, which typically involve going through very real fear and sometimes loathing, more than it ever does a grandiloquent notion of (fully) trusting or cherishing (well maybe a little cherishing). and a sidebar: certainly some people could be accurately said to possess little real integrity too, and they walk among us, fairly unannounced, you know?
― duke cherish, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― duke sooorrrrryyy, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― duke wha'happen, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― duke nevermind, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Doesn't work the other way around.
― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― de, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
(this also had the cold-water effect of speeding up the getting over process, but means it's a bit in my face)
― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
― lo, Sunday, 3 July 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)
90. Because it hurts your pride to be dumped for a teenager91. You get those rose-colored glasses on making you think that you were really happy then and haven't been since
― Candicissima (candicissima), Sunday, 3 July 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― Orange (Orange), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)
dammit, i've got great tits and he still got over me quickly enough...
― juliaaa, Monday, 4 July 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 4 July 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)
― sunny successor (when the lunch bell rings why dont you eat me) (katharine), Monday, 4 July 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 July 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)
1. telling me about seeing a movie with dude she previously described as a lech2. touching my arm tenderly, several times3. sitting far across from me at dinner w/friends4. telling me that i was ever lonely/upset late at night, i should call her
wtf?!
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 4 July 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)
― orthodox, Monday, 4 July 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 4 July 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)
― orthodox, Monday, 4 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)
― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)
― s merritt (ken c), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)
― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 4 July 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
That's horrible.
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― Orange (Orange), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)
― The Landlord's Daughter (The Landlord's Daughter), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)
― The Landlord's Daughter (The Landlord's Daughter), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― Marcia, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 21 July 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 21 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)
-- MIS Information (masonicboo...), July 4th, 2005.
104. Because even though you haven't spoken in months, they suddenly email you transcripts of their "hilarious" online dating chitchat. Just to let you know they've moved on...
Perfect!
― lo, Thursday, 21 July 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)
― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
― scout (scout), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)