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What are the policy differences, not big sweeping shit, but qoutes from material

― anthony, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Democrats like Superman, Republicans like Batman.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

a similar (and underdeveloped) thread:
Bush vs. Kerry - what are their ideas?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

And yes, Tuomas, Democrats like aliens and Republicans like rich people but he said "not big sweeping shit".

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

rather than just cut and paste a whole bunch of shit:
http://www.democrats.org/
http://www.rnc.org/

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i am continually shocked and dismayed by people who don't know the differences b/w the parties.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I am continually shocked and dismayed by people who don't have patience for other people trying to learn what they don't know.

― Maria D. (Maria D.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

kyle, anthong is canadian. can you name the canadian pm? the last one? etc

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Lesseee, there was Garry Trudeau and Brian Wilson and John Major and ...

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

CHRETIEN! SACRE BLEU!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

well here are the democratic and republican platforms at the texas level:

http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/30797.php

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, okay. I didn't realize that.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

((interesting side note: historical party platforms can be found at http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu)

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Separation of Church and State to preserve the freedom to pursue our beliefs." vs. "We pray God Bless Texas. God Bless the U.S.A. God bless us all!" = quite the biggie.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

United by a sense of purpose and recognition that elections do have consequences, Texas Democrats are working to elect public servants who practice the most fundamental democratic principle: that public policy decisions should be guided by honest, open debate about the best way to assure a better state and nation for our families and generations to come.

Hahahaha... it's non-speak! Sadly, I think that IS the Democratic platform. "What do we do? Make decisions! How do we do it? We haven't decided yet!"

― Major McTwitch (kenan), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony:

the afl-cio site has some stuff on why they support kerry: http://www.aflcio.org/

the national organization for women says we need to defeat bush:
http://www.now.org/

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i think anthony and Major McTwitch are onto something i.e. the actual party platforms - especially the national ones - are about as lifeless and boring as you can get, and no one holds them accountable to it anyway.. it's pretty hard to pin down specific diffs across the entire country when the answers are going to vary pretty widely between rural nebraska and, say, detroit

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

am I right in thinking that the parties unveil their national platform at the conventions?

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the only thing either political party holds accountable is the other side of the aisle.

― dan carville weiner, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/conventions/republican/features/platform.00/
http://www.democrats.org/about/2000platform.html

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

too bad I left my whisky flask at home.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Watching some of the debate footage, I cannot grasp how any average adult can vote for the GOP or feel comfortable with Bush in power. I understand why the wealthy lean GOP (supports their class interests) and why religious wingnuts go GOP (GENOCIDE OF THE UNBORN!!!), but other than I just don't get it.

What is the rational basis that I'm missing? Every explanation I've heard rests in American exceptionalism/mythology and/or people buying into spin (Kerry's a flip-flopper!) or simple ignorance (Saddam was behind 9/11 etc. which is just a variation on GOP spin).

Are a plurality of American adults just stupid and easily (mis)led?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't forget about other special interests. All it takes is a single issue that a person places a lot of emphasis on for them to basically disregard all other issues.

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But other than economics and God, what special interests are there for Bush? Things like 'school choice' are rooted in that exceptionalism (public schooling works well for the rest of the world, obviously Americans need something different) or ignorance.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

guns.

― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 2 October 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Cultural Issues are brought to the forefront, and people wind up voting against their economic interests.

Slacktivist has more on this, using a recent example in Alabama...

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Saturday, 2 October 2004 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Only poor people vote against their economic interests.

― oops (Oops), Saturday, 2 October 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Are a plurality of American adults just stupid and easily (mis)led?

A plurality of American voters picked Gore in 2000.

― don carville weiner, Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

what hstencil said.

and taxes.

But I don't have a thing in common with either candidate.

anthony, try to look beyond the two party system:

www.badnarik.org

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oops OTM. Also, Badnarik - for privatising the police; I think I asked Roger about this once, but don't know if I got a reply...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

A fair number of the people here (in SA) that think that Bush is doing a good job (and there aren't many) seem to be borderline racists that think that 'strike first/think about it later' is the "only way to deal with these people". He's started two wars. He's strong and decisive. Regrets, he has none. I imagine there even more of those people in the country that's the primary focus of terrorist attacks. I'm sure there are 'better' reasons to support Bush, but this is what I'm hearing.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

For some of these "better" reasons, there was that Christopher Hitchens interview that I linked to on the bottom of the "neo-con motivation for war" thread. Also linked on aldaily.com. Note the scare quotes around ""better"". """"".

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone else get the impression that the election is an elaborate charade designed to detract people from the truth that voting is not the penultimate act of democracy; but, rather, it is more basic freedoms (speech, religion) that can effect real change. So while we are all entertained to death by the pageant of Left-Vs.-Right, we forget that politcal change must exist outside of the corporate two-party system. Onwards with the rhetorical sweepstakes: keep the polygraph warm!

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The presidential election is a facade? Oh no! Someone inform the Electoral College!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow I think taxes are more important in party divisions than guns are.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless you are taxing guns.

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Or gunning taxpayers.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

haha someone gunning taxpayers = the representation of the GOP in a liberal editorial cartoon

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

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