Longtime ILXors - how has this board changed over time?

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Maybe I should say ILMers, cos that came first, right?
Anyway, just wondering about the kind of history of this place?
Are more or less people posting regularly now (than, say, 3 years ago)?
Has the tone or style of conversation changed?

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:16 (twenty years ago)

oh no.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Everyone is still a dick, thanks for asking

― TheRealJMod (TheRealJMod), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Ned said "Let there be discourse". And there was. And he saw that it was good. And then he rested.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Where to start? The tone is much the same I think (and I've bee around for just over 3 years): friendly (and sometimes not so-) arguments where most of the time, combatants kiss and make up. Less regulars seem to be around, but there are mucho new blood to make up for it.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago)

On average, posts seem a lot shorter.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

lady if you have to ask...

― kephm, Friday, 30 July 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago)

haha

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I think Daddino is right about shorter posts, and I think it's because of the increased traffic to the site. Part of the reason why few people bother with multiparagraph posts is because by the time they're done writing them, it's an x-post many, many times over.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago)

me too (xpost xpost xpost)

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc OTM

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Ned said "Let there be discourse". And there was. And he saw that it was good. And then he rested.

Gratifying to the ego if not accurate. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i don' think it's changed that much in the last couple of years. The first year or so of ILM, and the first few months of ILE, were a bit different. There were far fewer posters, and people knew who most people were. There was a range of opinion, of course, but the central Tom/Pete/etc. core carried a certain attitude, sense of humour and set of ways of mocking the indie kid rockism elsewhere on the net. There were the American refugees from a.m.a etc., who were largely anglophile and pro-pop / anti-canon too. It was all pretty fun but if it had stayed like that forever it would have got stale and a bit repetitive.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)

(This is where I confess I really should know who the hell Alba is by now.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I have been wondering who Alba is for DAYS.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)

first ilm, then ile; first greenspun, then andrew's server. The board has become far more conversational (hence shorter posting), partly bcz it has just grown in the number of posters and the sheer number of threads, and maybe bcz more of an ilx language has developed.

Also I always found it annoying that you had to write yr name and email before posting anything but that's prob just me.

Finally enforced regitration is unecessary. And when introduced on ilm I believe it will kill it, but shit happens.

x-post

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago)

alba => N.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago)

That would explain a lot.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I should have known, I was thinking Scotland given the name and all.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I used to have an Alba clock radio alarm, that's all.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

A good way to see how it's changed it just to look at the 2000 archives.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I miss N.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I kept imagining Alba was Jessica Alba in my mind's eye. Now that the truth is out, I have nothing left to live for. Except cake.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I miss Homosexual I, the original and still the best.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Alba means dawn in Italian (and Latin - and also "white", I think?) - N is declaring a new, unspoiled dawn for both himself and ILX.

Or the clock radio thing.

― Sanyo (Mark C), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Is it a White Power thing, then? Shame on N.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago)

white goods power, perhaps.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Homosexual I is still lurking around, Adam. Just wait.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I hope that's a promise!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Rosebud, Montana
November 30, 1985

Dear Sir:

Show the enclosed paper to others, make copies if
you like.

I am 51, a Paranoid Schizophrenic, High School
Diploma, Pentecostal, 6'1" tall, 225 pounds, black
hair, green eyes, and get Social Security Disability.

I was born in Forsyth and still live with my
parents. My brother Bob is a medical doctor. I
spent 3 years in the No. Dak. State Hospital and
had 50 insulin coma shock treatments. I escaped
once with a car and butcher knife and was nearly
killed by the Police.

I have never stolen, raped, or killed. A
psychiatrist, Dr. Martin Freese, said it was a
miracle.

I have had sex with over 120 women, most of them
prostitutes.

I am a very handsome and charming Virgo, same as
Alexander the Great, Ivan the Terrible, John
Wilkes Booth, Jesse James, Admiral Bligh, Emperor
Augustus, Cesare Borgia, Cardinal Richelieu,
Marquis de Lafayette, von Wallenstein, General
John J. Pershing, Louis the 14th and Richard the
Lionhearted.

In 1965, I received a batch of letters from
Wyoming school children, saying that my Buffalo
Bill song called Pahaska, was their favorite song
and was sung in class every day.

According to neurologists, I have suffered far
more than any human who ever lived, because when I
was insane, I had skeining power. Skein is found
in Goulds Medical Dictionary.

According to psychologists, I am the smartest man
ever to walk on the earth.

I would like to personally impregnate hundreds of
bright single women in order to produce a crop of
great geniuses to improve the world.

Thank you for disseminating this information.

Sincerely,

Tom Lloyd

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago)

It feels different, but then maybe it's me who has changed or just drifted away a little.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I am Jessica Alba - I just used to have an Alba clock radio is all.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:31 (twenty years ago)

best way to judge this sort of thing is to use the archive function on the search page and view the new answers page from various days in history.

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/search.php?board=1

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago)

When 2001 stuff gets revived it seems like another planet. It's like a tea party in comparison. I wasn't there for that stuff though, so I don't miss it.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago)

"more tea, Jess?"
"why thank you, Stevem. *sip*"
"so Tom, about those Strokes..."

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't really know as i don't spend near as much time here as i did in 2001. maybe that's yr answer right there. . .

whiskeytown, was that supposed to be funny?

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)

My guess is that since their inceptions, ILM posts have referred less and less to other posters and ILE posts have referred more and more. I kind of prefer ILM these days.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I've been sneaking back onto ILM more and more, esp. as I've now got constant access. I've noticed it has gotten a bit less elitist these days, which is cool

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)

when it first started we all had better sex. not necessarily longer but noisier.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 30 July 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I see you've been trying to rekindle the fire lately

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago)

I am NOT impotent.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago)

duly noted

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I guess the obvious thing to note is that the board demoraphic has come to reflect the internet at large much more closely (ie. dominated by Americans) which has changed things in whatever way you might like to argue.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)

posts shorter/even less consensus on pop music/perhaps a more pronounced USA emphasis (as opposed to transcontinental)?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago)

as opposed to TOTALLY GAY 80'S REVIVALIST CRAP

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago)

jon you are really wearying.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago)

jon what are you really wearing

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I'M NOT WEARING PANTS

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)

It's threads like this that make me completely feel like ILX has been taken over by Americans with ways of talking and frames of reference that completely leave me out in the cold. I'd be better off understanding it if it was in French. This is neither supposed to imply a generalized anti-Americanism on my part, nor to suggest that ILX is all like that these days.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 30 July 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago)

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Alex James

― rob, Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:16 (three years ago)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/CJ-COMP-CHEESE.jpg?w=1125

― calzino, Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:18 (three years ago)

ngl, that is my exact hair game

― imago, Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:19 (three years ago)

I suppose it's possible a dorkier picture might exist somewhere but that's impressive

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:32 (three years ago)

That might look nice but it's evil Tory cheese.

― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:34 (three years ago)

do these hypothetical kids drink milk? how much per day, on average, and at what age?

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:40 (three years ago)

Lemonade was a popular drink
But it's not anymore

― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:48 (three years ago)

oh no not the milk consumption debate again

― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:51 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14Kp1DitpE

― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 December 2021 14:55 (three years ago)

Stopping back in to see if tipping has come up yet

― Jaq, Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:02 (three years ago)

I didn’t know this place was full of nazis. I thought we were just here to discuss XTC, Charli XCX and make fun of Drake.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:04 (three years ago)

*drives up in car, rolls down window*

NICE THREAD

*speeds away*

― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:04 (three years ago)

Shame if something happened to it.

― tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:09 (three years ago)

Lol classic callbacks now we're heating up

― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:10 (three years ago)

ME NAMES GARU G AND IM A NICE FELLA ME NOB CHEESE SMELLS LIKE MOZARELLA

― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:11 (three years ago)

flopson

i feel like there used to be a norm that it was embarrassing to get mad online. it was upheld by teasing ppl when they got too heated ('u mad') and posters with an aloof style were valued. i feel like at some point that changed, and getting mad became normalized

FP'd you for that btw

― Ennui de Toulouse-Lautrec (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:13 (three years ago)

(kidding)

― Ennui de Toulouse-Lautrec (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:13 (three years ago)

The internet used to be nealons but now it's sandlers across the board.

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:17 (three years ago)

the cheese board

― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:21 (three years ago)

Be careful of the pickles!

― tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:36 (three years ago)

ILM is the cheesy centrist melt pop board

― Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:49 (three years ago)

the Blur guy puns his cheese names off of popular song titles

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:52 (three years ago)

ME NAMES GARU G AND IM A NICE FELLA ME NOB CHEESE SMELLS LIKE MOZARELLA
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:11 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sir, you are no Garu G.

― Mark G, Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:03 (three years ago)

i'm not fit to hold his gran's flange

― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:16 (three years ago)

excuse me, i'm just here for the resumption of the milk debate.

as a hearty US midwesterner, i drink about a gallon per day

― my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:22 (three years ago)

of course, my 12 children need twice that easy, which is why i had to quit my job in order to focus on obtaining more milk for my family

― my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:22 (three years ago)

it does a body good

― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:34 (three years ago)

life is a milk consumption number. life is a fight for a gallon of 2-percent in the mud.

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:34 (three years ago)

Karl malone, from mailman to milkman

― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:34 (three years ago)

the ilx hivemind would never permit a good faith discussion of how they take the milk from cows in the north and milk from cows in the south and put it together

― coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:36 (three years ago)

it'll be single-region first-squeeze milk on my corn pops

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:38 (three years ago)

(and for my latte sippin)

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:42 (three years ago)

kevin mccallister on the tv, pairing a chalice of milk with kraft dinner. your uncle sips a white russian while his newborn spits up the last bottle. mother sets a pitcher of milk on the table, and you wake up to your subaru interior. with your right foot, you instruct the machine to turn out miles. you grasp the wheel and place the miles between you and the milk.

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:13 (three years ago)

you're safely home, so you open up the ole 'how has this board changed?' thread on ilx

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 9 December 2021 18:14 (three years ago)

life is a milk consumption number. life is a fight for a gallon of 2-percent in the mud.

― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, December 9, 2021 12:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box religion

― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 9 December 2021 19:02 (three years ago)

See a lot of the crying about pile-ons, lack of nuance, 'I don't get everything right but I'm willing to learn', the supposed hounding for an imagined inability to display purity in these threads from established journos like Monbiot on here.

I don’t have to look far to see how much trouble the left is in, because I’m confronted with it almost every day.
Here’s a brief thread about my experience, and why we urgently need to get over ourselves and unite against our common threats.
— George Monbiot (@GeorgeMonbiot) December 5, 2021

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 December 2021 12:22 (three years ago)

he's such a precious crybaby. It all really comes down to him feeling wounded that people are calling him an unprincipled melt and a bullshit merchant when that is precisely what his actions and words have shown him to be.

― calzino, Friday, 10 December 2021 12:49 (three years ago)

'State of ILX' threads really are like a slow walking tour of the alimentary canal. They may meander and vary in pace but you can bet your bottom dollar that they'll all reach the same inevitable destination in time.

― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 December 2021 13:41 (three years ago)

Lol jon

― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 December 2021 13:41 (three years ago)

We had some version of this debate on a climate channel on a private Discord server I belong to...

and I essentially posted, "It isn't my job as a queer dude married to a non-white dude to engage with people who want to kill the two of us." That's fine if people want to do that, but I simply don't have the patience, and I don't think people should be expected to have that patience.

― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 10 December 2021 18:01 (three years ago)

y hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone) at 11:22 9 Dec 21

excuse me, i'm just here for the resumption of the milk debate.

as a hearty US midwesterner, i drink about a gallon per day

I'm so hearty and Midwestern I only drink milk out of a beer bong

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 December 2021 18:11 (three years ago)

one thing that i find is that the longer this board goes on, the more wood i've chopped out back. i know we probably already have enough wood for the winter, but i like to go back there, drink a milkshake and blow off some steam sometimes

― my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 December 2021 18:15 (three years ago)

That reminds me, I need to use my friend's chainsaw to shorten some logs. Which seems like a euphemism, but I have no idea what it would be for.

According to this (caveat etc.) the highest liquid milk consumption in the world is Belarus, followed by New Zealand:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/535806/consumption-of-fluid-milk-per-capita-worldwide-country/

In terms of total dairy usage, it looks like India absolutely trounces everyone, with Ireland right behind.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 December 2021 18:18 (three years ago)

In terms of total dairy usage, it looks like India absolutely trounces everyone

Holy cow!

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 December 2021 18:56 (three years ago)

that's interesting! my friend was telling me how all of his american-born relatives are taller than his indian-born ones and i hypothesized that they consumed more dairy here (note, i have not looked into whether dairy/height correlation is even true)

― towards fungal computer (harbl), Friday, 10 December 2021 19:50 (three years ago)

Maybe when you make ghee it takes out some of the heightamins

― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Saturday, 11 December 2021 15:35 (three years ago)

or it could be air pollution :(

― rob, Saturday, 11 December 2021 15:39 (three years ago)

This is going kinda back in my memory but I remember learning that height is strongly correlated to pre-natal health and resources available to mothers?

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 11 December 2021 15:47 (three years ago)

yeah, it is probably several things

― towards fungal computer (harbl), Saturday, 11 December 2021 16:06 (three years ago)

My two girls are both 5'11" but I don't think they had better resources but

― Mark G, Monday, 13 December 2021 16:42 (three years ago)

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