2 beers a night - every night except friday, saturday & sunday (anything up to eight a night) Acceptable or What?

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Two beers, 4-5% every single night? With no exceptions? Friday and saturday nights maybe four five beers, a couple of vodkas, sunday about four beers all in, then back to two on monday night?

This must have some cumulative effect, no? Having alcohol in ones system all the time? Sure it's no great amount but still, keeping it topped up all the time must be kinda unhealthy?

How much do you drink? Do you have one or two or more every night of the week? Feel you could be taking better care of yourself or is this the norm?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i drink about that much. on some nights i might be booze free but they're the minority.

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah me too, tho mines wine not beer. Ive tried alternating off days but it only seems to happen now and then. I'm slack.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's probably slightly unhealthy, but you're young, right?

You can live a little.

And wine is supposedly better for ya than beer or liquor.

― supercub, Monday, 11 October 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

me three. wine or beer. i know i'm supposed to have an alcohol free day per week or whathaveyou but i never have an alcohol free day unless i'm torturously hungover. although i rarely bingedrink these days.

― gem (trisk), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha gem you made me feel better about it! Which is umm probably not good ;D

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oh well. i say life's too short to worry about such things. what if i got hit by a bus tomorrow, would i be glad i had lots of booze free days for the sake of my liver? hell no!

― gem (trisk), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

yea, try and have one, maybe at a streach two alco free nights a week. It is prudent not to think of these nights as ones during which you are going to be productive. firstly becasue you will want a drink after you have achieved your goal to celibrate, and also becasue the mental/physical activity will jazz you up so you will need one to sleep.

― lukey (Lukey G), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't tend to drink too much at the moment, but i was usually drinking about 2-3 glasses of wine a night & alot more than that at weekends. Far too much I guess.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That's probably too much. 4 nights of 5 units + 2 of 14.5 + one of 10 = 59 units a week, which, over the long term, is not going to do you any good. I was doing about that much, and it resulted in mild liver damage.

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 11 October 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey Ricky, that's a scary thought. See, it's actually my boyfriend, this amount has only been the norm for about 16 months - since he left his parents house. I was hoping he'd kinda grow out of it, but nah.

He cites the french having a few red wines per evening at a much greater percentage of alcohol as his excuse.

But alcohol, even in small quantities affects sleep and I worry he's not getting a good enough quality as his legs twitch and jerk all night long....

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

drinking 2 every weeknight and 4/5 on fri and sat is better for you than nothing every weeknight and then 8/9 on fri and sat.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't tell me this when I'm on a sobriety binge.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

my kidneys are throbbing this morning...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Rumpy, his argument is bollocks. A couple of 125 ml glasses of a wine a night only is only 21 units a week ie approx one third of that.

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I am off the booze this week. UGH. HORROR.

― Starry (hello chickens), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, which diet is this again?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

For me, it's the OMIGOD, I HAVE A GIG IN A WEEK AND MY SINGER IS MAKING FUN OF ME!!! diet.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

4 nights of 5 units + 2 of 14.5 + one of 10 = 59 units a week, which, over the long term, is not going to do you any good. I was doing about that much, and it resulted in mild liver damage.

Over how long a period of time can one get away with this?! That's about what I drink per week, and I guess I've cut down significantly in the recent past. Oh dear.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Just with wine being around 12% and the beer only about 4 or 5 Ricky. I've seen me getting quite, shall we say merry on two glasses of red wine. I am a bit of a light weight though, I'll admit that much...

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken, according my doctor brother you're wrong. The body can heal the results of binge drinking much more easily if it's clear of alcohol the rest of the week.

I wonder about how I can gradually reduce my alcohol intake. Problem is I genuinely enjoy drinking in moderation - if I could keep it to a couple of glasses of wine or a couple of beers every night, then I'd only be marginally over the recommended unitage (for a bloke, 21 says the doctor, 28 says the government). But it's that along with the, well, not bingeing exactly, but 8-12 units I can manage on a night at a party/at dinner/in the pub. That's what ups it to unacceptable levels.

So I guess the solution is either a) don't binge drink, ever or b) try and have an alcohol free week. Neither is an appealing thought.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't get away with it for too long, Toby, though you do have youth on your side. For now. You first of all get a condition called "fatty liver", which is reversible, but if it isn't reversed by a period of abstention/proper moderation then the liver damage gets dangerous and, eventually, permanent (cirrhosis and other joys).

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I maybe drink 3-4 nights a week, and may have half a bottle of wine or two or three beers. I very rarely drink any more than that these days, I have neither the capacity nor motivation for it. Except when I went ligging in London at the start of last month and probably drank ten pints over the day.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I have exactly the same problem as you, Mark. Plus I'm generally very healthy, which allows me to convince myself that it can't be doing me any damage.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

How much alcohol do you drink a week?

A couple of years back we all tried totalling it up on this thread. I think most of us London lot got a bit of a surprise.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken, according my doctor brother you're wrong. The body can heal the results of binge drinking much more easily if it's clear of alcohol the rest of the week.

but it depends on the binge right? i'd imagine doing 8 or 9 pints a night would fuck your livers up real bad even if you steer clear of the booze the rest of the week?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The liver has a wonderful capacity for healing itself IF you give it the space to do so. 8 or 9 pints in one night might fuck you over if you're small, or sickly, or already have liver damage (personally I couldn't drink that much anyway as I'd pass out/vomit before getting there), but if you're normal and healthy it can cope as long as you don't do it often.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

fair enough

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, at least I drink less than I did 2 years ago.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

For four years or so, I drank the equivalent of about 5-8 pints every single night. And I still drink a lot, though a bit less. I don't know how I would tell if my liver is damaged.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

are you attached to a grey box next to your bed?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

You're all a bunch of pissheads.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, beer may be 4.5% but in comes in glasses that are more than four times as big as the standard one of wine. Total amount of booze = percentage ABV * volume of drink/100. That's why a *small* glass of wine comes in at 1.5 units, whereas a pint of 4.5% beer is 2.5 units.

― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't often drink on my own at home. I did go through a phase of drinking 2 or 3 glasses of wine a night. It does make dinner nicer. But it's an expensive habit. If I could just stop at one it would be good, but I don't seem to be able to.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose it's a bit different if you're living with someone. And when I was going out with my last gf we regularly 4 or 5 glasses of wine each on a weeknight.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

On Saturday, I drank a bottle of wine on my own before going out. This is unusual behaviour for me and the unusual behaviour continued through the night. It was an interesting experiment, btu I shall leave it up to my friends to judge whether it should be repeated.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Threads like this just make me feel really... the word isn't really depressed, more like awkward and disappointed with myself or something.

I keep typing stuff that I want to say, then giving up and not posting it. I wonder why that is.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Alcohol damage to the brain?

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Denial?

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Disturbed sleep cycles...?

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep typing stuff that I want to say, then giving up and not posting it.

this happens to me on most threads fwiw

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a very bad attitude towards alcohol, I know that. I have a completely self-destructive, doomed romantic, "I know it's bad for me but I luuuurrrrve it" WAAAARRRR-HEEEYYYYY!!! attitude towards alcohol and bingedrinking. So it makes me a bit uncomfortable to talk about sort of every day drinking. I suppose I romanticise my own alcoholism because it happens in self destructive splurges and I can kid myself that there is something Dionysian about that. I wouldn't be able to do that if I drank every damn day. It's like *that* is my definition of what alcoholism is - someone who has to drink, every single day. I know I'm kidding myself, but...

I dunno. Like I said, I can't put it into words.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't drink during the week at all, I can't. Problem is if I have one drink it leads to about 12. Its a problem. So I tend to drink far too much on a friday and saturday night, typically 9-10 beers a night possibly more. Which is also a problem. alcholism runs in the family and I need to watch myself.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Monday, 11 October 2004 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really understand why I've never had a drink problem, when I managed to get so addicted to smoking. Maybe I'm just in denial.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to drink 7-15 beers every night I have to hear President Bush talking to America. It might not be very good on my liver, but it somehow manages to hold back the URGE TO KILL.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the beer you guys drink are like water though. it's probably good for you.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(p.s. i'm kidding)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

try and have an alcohol free week. Neither is an appealing thought.

Is this socialising-related, or OMFG, I've got an addiction related?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

My personal idea of an alcoholic is someone who drinks first thing in the morning to take a hangover away - so I've never worried about drinking two beers everynight...

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i drink fairly regularly, probably 2 or 3 nights during the week on average, where i'll have maybe 3 pints of beer (or glasses of wine if it's at dinner or a 'function' of some kind). i rarely drink hard liquor. i do like a nice G&T, but I never really drink them to get drunk. on the weekends if i'm going out i don't drink that much more. i will have a 'big night out' about 2-3 times a month (usually on weekends but could be random nights for whatever reason) where i drink a lot combined with unsensible things (tequila shots, etc).

i've actually been thinking about how to 'cut down' lately. primarily for my health and not to mention my expanding beer-gut! but whenever i go out, i just feel funny if i don't have a pint. i really can't bring myself to order a water or juice or something. and frankly i really like the taste of beer/wine and the nice buzz that goes along with it. and to be honest its the pints that i have a problem with - i don't think i ever have just one. this is been more of an issue for me since moving to london, since (a) this city has more of a drinking culture (b) there's so much more going on here, and as a relative 'newbie' to london/the UK, i like to go out as much as i can stand

i dunno what all this means. i never think of myself as having any type of problem with the bouze, but i do realise that i have consumed many a pint that was simply not necessary. i could have saved piles of money, as well as reduced the workload on my liver and slowed my general flab-expansion...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

x-post my complacent self - how things change

A few months ago, a single beer or wine suddenly started making me mightily drunk and I'm now being tested for diabetes.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 23 June 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

once again i drink significantly less than i did two years ago. i guess hangovers are nature's way of making you drink less as you get older.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 23 June 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't you and your housemate regularly make midweek cocktails on nights in though? I remember you once telling me you'd drink more on a night in than a night in the pub.

I've pretty much completely cut out midweek casual drinking unless there's some sort of social event going on, and don't really drink at home. Big nights are probably as big as they ever were though, possibly more so.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

that's a bummer bob six. hope it goes okay.

― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

For the last 3-4 years I've basically completely stopped midweek drinking since I'm afflicted by One Drink Hangovers

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

i have wine every night, except mondays -- well, most mondays. but i have cut down by about 75% on my late teens and early twenties. if i had a simple way of obtaining it, i'd go with gange most of the time, coz i mostly just have the booze to de-edge me at the end of the evening.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:36 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't drink for three weeks, recently!

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

damn. i haven't gone that long since... 1995.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

you're a lot older than me, though

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if that's true.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

are you drunk just now?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's 'funny' that this thread has come up cos not six hours ago i was having a full and frank discussion with my 'better half' over this very issue.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

you do seem drunk

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

6 hours ago?

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

yerp.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

he's drunk

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

i'm a little overtired.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

Above all else, isn't drinking every night just fucking expensive? I have no idea how I afforded it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

Above all else, isn't drinking every night just fucking expensive? I have no idea how I afforded it.
-- Matt DC (runmd...), June 23rd, 2006.

it's tolerable at home, but yeah i can't afford to get drunk in london.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

my local shop sells 6 cans of grolsch for a fiver. that's how i do it.

the world cup is changing my habit to around 4 beers a night except friday sat sun etc.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

I rarely ever drink at home - I just can't really be bothered! If I even have a glass of wine I probably will end up getting bored and not finishing it. Drinking by myself is just a bit pointless, although I must say on Fridays a nice cold glass of BEER with meal is nice, if you want to stay in and get a bit tipsy. But I wouldn't want to do it on a skoolnight as next day hangover aint worth it! I am defintely a very keen social drinker THO SOME MIGHT SAY it is more ANTISOCIAL har har.

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah my flatmate has to do with my recent drinking too.. (never really want to get drunk on my own except maybe on special occasions like once when i got a new job but no one to celebrate with so i made myself a great big dinner and drank a bottle of bubbly on my own ;_;)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

My flatmate regularly drinks at home, mostly in her room but sometimes she'll be on the plonk when we're watching telly or something but it's obvious it's not for social purposes so I don't really feel any urge to join in (if anything TBH it makes me a bit worried about how much she is actually boozin' so I want to drink LESS)!

Also I KNIT so my hands are fairly busy most of the time so I forget to drink WATER never mind PLONK :)

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Friday, 23 June 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't gone three weeks without drinking for 20 years.

Up until we had kids we'd regularly drink 4 or 5 nights a week. These days my wife hardly ever drinks (not at all at the moment as she's pregnant) and I'm restricted to weekend binges and the very occasional midweek pint.

My hangovers are a lot worse now that I'm drinking less frequently so I must have built up a bit of a tolerance at one point, which parenthood has destroyed. Probably a good thing.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

i think this year was the first since i started drinking, when i start to think that i'm not a more socialable/better person whilst drunk. it was a silly thing to think.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

I get hangovers after two sips of beer. Now I'm wondering if i should experiment and spent two-three weeks drinking moderately every night, endure the hangovers, and hope that I'll build some hangover-immunity?

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

your third drink will lead you astray
wondering down the backstreets of the world
on the last day of your life, don't forget to die
the things that you do, will always make your mama cry

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

I try not to drink Monday to Wednesday, and sometimes Sunday and Thursday as well, although I usually have 1 or 2 beers on those days. This is due to coming very close to alcoholism in my teens, I was pretty close to the "can never drink again" point but cut down just in time. I still get mild withdrawal symptoms if I have a few heavy nights in a row (which doesn't happen often these days), but they're easy enough to ignore at this stage.

Friday and Saturday, well anything goes, but I don't normally have more than 6 or 7 unless I'm out. This is regardless of company though, I actually like getting a buzz on my own (although I'm rarely ALONE as such, cos I'm with the wife, but she doesn't really drink).

Oddly as I get older my hangovers got less severe. I barely get hangovers apart from general tiredness and the occasional mild headache when I first wake up, and that is easily shifted. Had terrible hangovers when I was 15.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

i've just realized how rarely i drink beer. maybe two a week.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 23 June 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

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