Ayn Rand Institute: Voting Is Anti-Freedom!

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http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10385&news_iv_ctrl=1021

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

don't they have some good deeds to go and not do?

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

whatevah, bitz.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That's an badly thought-out piece.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't followed the link, but I'd love to guess what it says. How about this:

Elections permit a 51% majority of voters to control the government. Therefore they permit a select few to control the laws, impose taxes, and unfairly meddle in lives of everyone else. This is inherently unfree.

OTOH, freedom permits everyone to do as they please, provided it doesn't hurt anyone else. The only path to genuine freedom is to turn over all the functions of government to the free market, where everyone gets to choose everything freely and the owners will give you a free lollipop for choosing their goods and services - maybe two!

(If I am right do I win a lollipop?)

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

One lollipop is credited to your account.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Democracy" does not mean a system that holds public elections for government officials; it means a system in which a majority vote rules everything and everyone

This is very silly. In modern usage, the word 'democracy' obviously conveys far more than its original meaning of mob rule.

A lot of the rest of the article is silly, too.

This article on "The Racism of Diversity" is far sillier, though:
http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7431&news_iv_ctrl=1076

These people are loonies, and their "objectivism" is a total joke.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Now let's talk about why feminism is silly

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

"U.S. Should Not Help Tsunami Victims"

http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10688&news_iv_ctrl=1021

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 31 December 2004 23:29 (twenty years ago)

"But you really should give money to us, or at least volunteer your time, 'cause if you didn't we'd be subject to the dictates of the marketplace and be forced to make Ayn Rand bobbleheads."

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=volunteer

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 January 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

I'd pay $20 for an Ayn Rand bobblehead.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 1 January 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

ayn rand was such a fucking bitch.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 1 January 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

seconded

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

my friend has some stories about confrontations with a libertarian think-tank in his uni. don't see what influence they plan to gain in a country where laissez-faire resulted in massive emigration and delayed intervention in a famine

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

The guy who wrote the article is from Irvine, CA.. big fucking surprise.

― donut christ (donut), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to introduce objectivists to this new invention called a "Constitution"... it's a neat gadget that says you have the right to live, even if people vote 51%-49% to kill you! Thus you can have your democracy and eat it too. (I know that without this "Constitution," the American public would have chosen to kill me by popular vote on multiple occasions, so I'm certainly grateful.) Now they can stop worrying, close down their Ayn Rand institute, and go do their homework and their chores!

― wetmink (wetmink), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

So, if tragedy would befall the Ayn Rand Institute, would it be anti-Rand-ian to support the reconstruction of the institute?

― donut christ (donut), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

why not start the Me institute instead? That's putting conviction into action.

― donut christ (donut), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

That's an badly thought-out piece.
From the Ayn Rand institute, imagine that.

― Steely Zan (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

why [could it be considered that] Ayn Rand was such a fucking bitch?

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Stalin in reverse

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

She brought tens of millions of people back to life?

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

http://www.batman-superman.com/superman/img/bizzaro.gif

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

it's a neat gadget that says you have the right to live, even if people vote 51%-49% to kill you! Thus you can have your democracy and eat it too.

NOT FREE ENOUGH! I WANT TO SHIT IN THE STREET! SOMEBODY PLEASE LET ME SHIT IN THE STREET!

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Methinks Randians would like Talksport Radio (Mackenzie FM)

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Randians would be way cooler if they all followed Randy Quaid.

― Steely Zan (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

seconded

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

The wikpedia article on her told me nothing
the objectivism article too rambling
at least it doesn't help me to understand the scathing hatred

*sigh* guess i'll have to plough thru this: Can someone explain Ayn Rand to me?!

*HinT*

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

3rd rate Nietzsche + 'Capitalism PWNS!'

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

The best way to cultivate Rand hatred is to slog through The Fountainhead and/or Atlas Shrugged, really.

― Steely Zan (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

I just read a synopsis of the Fountainhead.

omg.

― Masked Gazza, Saturday, 1 January 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

the non-terrible version is Robert Nozick

― fcussen (Burger), Saturday, 1 January 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

So, if tragedy would befall the Ayn Rand Institute, would it be anti-Rand-ian to support the reconstruction of the institute?

-- donut christ (do...), January 1st, 2005.

check, and mate!

― contribute, Saturday, 1 January 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, since I initiated this round of Rand-bashing, enjoy this from "The Least Successful Christmas Specials of All Time" by the National Lampoon:

Ayn Rand's A Selfish Christmas (1951)

In this hour-long radio drama, Santa struggles with the increasing demands of providing gifts for millions of spoiled, ungrateful brats across the world, until a single elf, in the engineering department of his workshop, convinces Santa to go on strike. The special ends with the entropic collapse of the civilization of takers and the spectacle of children trudging across the bitterly cold, dark tundra to offer Santa cash for his services, acknowledging at last that his genius makes the gifts — and therefore Christmas — possible.

Prior to broadcast, Mutual Broadcast System executives raised objections to the radio play, noting that 56 minutes of the hour-long broadcast went to a philosophical manifesto by the elf and of the four remaining minutes, three went to a love scene between Santa and the cold, practical Mrs. Claus that was rendered into radio through the use of grunts and the shattering of several dozen whiskey tumblers. In later letters, Rand sneeringly described these executives as "anti-life."

― Hunter (Hunter), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Shouldn't Mrs. Claus actually be paying for Mr. Claus' OH NEVER MIND.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

God I wish Ayn Rand was still alive so I could shove a .45 up her shriveled old cunt and pull the trigger until my finger broke.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

HAPPY HOLIDAYS FOLKS!

― OMGWTF (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

Could we talk more about scotch and less about killing Ayn Rand?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

They're not "scotch" they're Scots, and they too want her dead, dead, dead.

― Hunter (Hunter), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't touch Ayn Rand's shriveled old cunt with a stolen dick, alive or no.

― Steely Zan (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

Sure, scotch is always good.

I'd like to stick a .45 up a bottle of Talisker's crotch and pull the trigger!

Just kidding--I've been enjoying a gift bottle of Dalmore all week. It makes me warm & cozy & makes me want to dig up Ayn Rand's corpse, hate-fuck it & serve it as sushi in a cut-rate Montreal bar.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Just like, don't read her books and stuff.

― Steely Zan (AaronHz), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

No, that's not good enough. I vote for a good ol' New Year's Ayn Rand Grave Robbing Party!

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Saturday, 1 January 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)

that nat'l lampoon bit is brilliant!

― g--ff (gcannon), Saturday, 1 January 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

It is, and the other nine are, too.

http://www.nationallampoon.com/nl/08_features/xmasspecials/xmasspecials.asp

Check out:

The Village People in Can't Stop the Christmas Music—On Ice! (1980)

Undeterred by the miserable flop of the movie Can't Stop the Music!, last place television network NBC aired this special, in which music group the Village People mobilize to save Christmas after Santa Claus (Paul Lynde) experiences a hernia. Thus follows several musical sequences — on ice! — where the Village People move Santa's Workshop to Christopher Street, enlist their friends to become elves with an adapted version of their hit "In The Navy," and draft film co-star Bruce Jenner to become the new Santa in a sequence which involves stripping the 1976 gold medal decathlon winner to his shorts, shaving and oiling his chest, and outfitting him in fur-trimmed red briefs and crimson leathers to a disco version of "Come O Ye Faithful." Peggy Fleming, Shields and Yarnell and Lorna Luft co-star.

Interestingly, there is no reliable data regarding the ratings for this show, as the Nielsen diaries for this week were accidentally consumed by fire. Show producers estimate that one in ten Americans tuned in to at least part of the show, but more conservative estimates place the audience at no more than two or three percent, tops.

― Hunter (Hunter), Saturday, 1 January 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

How did we celebrate Rand's centennial yesterday? I continued to not read her.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

"Volunteers are not compensated for their efforts and no charitable donation receipts are issued to volunteers. Volunteers may also be required to sign a confidentiality agreement."

From the "Volunteer" web page of the Ayn Rand Institute.

They sure make it sound like they have some shady shit going on over there.

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

"Volunteers are not compensated for their efforts and no charitable donation receipts are issued to volunteers. Volunteers may also be required to sign a confidentiality agreement."

Don't those all go against the basic tenets of Randism?

― Huk-L, Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Has anybody ever read "Sewer, gas, and electric" by Matt Ruff? How was it? It has a really good reputation. Supposed to be a mix of Ayn Rand, cyber punk and Thomas Pynchon, Pillip K Dick or Vonnegut. I sell books and I keep picking up copies but they always sell fast before I can get to reading them.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802141552/qid=1107456966/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0266330-8279941?v=glance&s=books

PS fuck Ayn Rand with a burning electric drill.

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

The best way to cultivate Rand hatred is to slog through The Fountainhead and/or Atlas Shrugged, really.

OTM

How did we celebrate Rand's centennial yesterday?

I had a bowel movement in her honor.

― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I talked about panties with friends online.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 3 February 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I took photos of myself in my underoos.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 February 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Post 'em on ilx

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

no.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 February 2005 01:25 (twenty years ago)

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