Reasons Why People Voted Bush

I voted for Bush, so that he can clean up all his mess during his second term. No-one else should be made responsible for all his folly and self-disillusioned war on terror. The only war that the world needs to fight is to eradicate poverty, diseases, genocide, atrocity and many unjust situations in many parts of the world. These are the real terrors that breeds human terrorists. Go to the roots of the cause. Don't try to be a fool to treat symptoms of these terrors.
Jaime Stuart

Isn't that country full of guns? Why hasn't one been used against this whackjob?

Of course they somehow think that pissing off the muslum world some more is going to make us safer, so they don't really seem to have a good grasp on the reasons behind terrorism to start with.

Yes. It's also blindingly obvious.

FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY...GERHARD SCHROEDER.

I hope Bruce Springsteen, Gerhard Schroeder, Osama Bin Laden, and Michael Moore tell this guy NOT to kill himself.

I've discovered a new pet hate - people who think that appealing for votes equal telling them what to do. Rove, Vincent Gallo and the shock jocks 'told' you who to vote for too! (breaks into sobs)

*cough*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/w1nt3rmut3/animatedbush.gif

(I wish)

If other Poles were like you, our motherland would still be crawling with Russian and German soldiers. Tadeusz Kosciuszko is rolling in his grave, and Marshal Pilsudski spits on you from the great beyond.

Eisbär, Polish-American from New Jersey who voted proudly for Kerry.

Cuz if so, why the fuck are all these upstanding niceyniceys voting for a drughead? I DONT GET THAT.

Didn't know where to put this, and it was gett ing heavy:

Forget red vs. blue states -- it was more like purple

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http://getreligion.typepad.com/getreligion/bushjesus.jpg

During his 2000 presidential campaign there were persistent questions about a history of cocaine use. Eventually Bush denied using cocaine since 1992, then quickly extended the cocaine-free period back to 1974 (age 28). NBC reporter David Bloom then noted "that current White House appointees must disclose any drug use since their 18th birthday" [12]. Bush, however, refused to make a disclosure, instead admitting he'd made mistakes in the past, and if voters didn't like that "they can go find somebody else to vote for. That's the wonderful thing about democracy" [12].

(from http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g43.htm#7 and I have no idea what kind of site that is)

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actually, during the great partition (approx. 1790-1918), poland was partitioned and occupied by russia, germany, and austria.

Cuz if so, why the fuck are all these upstanding niceyniceys voting for a drughead? I DONT GET THAT.

'cause when you've been "born again," EVERY SHITTY THING YOU'VE EVER DONE is forgiven by the other "born agains" (insert some rubbish about "the blood of Christ wiping yer slate clean" or something like that). it's the ultimate "get out of jail free" card for bible-thumping morons!

-- Allyzay Science Explosion (allyza...), November 5th, 2004.

the western half would be crawling with germans, the eastern half with russians. there's plenty of poland for everyone!

He was getting some good shit from Jose Canseco.

I seem to remember the catholic and protestent churches uniting over Section 28.
Every uk election gets more americanised so perhaps the uk will slowly go that way.

they are here they are growing, just google for howard conder, mathew ashimolowo, golbert deya, peniel church. I witnessed one of these fucks threaten to disembowel one of my bosses this week. Every day and every way they are getting more money swaying more people. Tony Blair has even given control of schools to people like these fucks, flat earthers, anti-choicers, evolution denyers. They are out there in Britain and they must be fought.

Also, when you're really into the whole "ditto, Rush!" mindset, you tend to look at the people who are supposedly "against" you -- foreigners, Democrats, atheists, etc. -- as being this one huge caricature, this leftover from the hippie granola era who is all peace and happiness toward the U.S.'s enemies but who fights the U.S. every step of the way, regardless of the scenario, because this being, this caricature is supposed to hate the U.S., loathe its existence with everything it's got, work toward destroying the U.S. The stereotype is shown as giving away America's power through "compromise" and "peace" while perhaps not-so-secretly cheering on the formation of this One Giant, Godless Global Socialist Empire. I've since come to understand that this is not the case with about 95% of those individuals whose politics clash[ed] so very much with mine.

I also tend to think that maybe the so-called "religious right" are that way in the U.S., also because it's easier for them to view things in purely black or white, instead of through shades of grey, and that's really sad, because if they were to pay close attention to the teachings of Jesus the Lord, they would see that he himself did not advocate looking at sin in those terms, that he wanted first and foremost for people to treat each other humanely and that he advocated not following rules and regulations if following them led to denying someone, anyone, their humanity. See, for example, the story of the woman at the well, or the story of that tax collector who climbed a tree just to take a look at Jesus.

Anyway, it makes me sad that the religious right are forgetting these lessons and relying on outdated regulations outlined by a God overseeing an agrarian and almost barbaric society some several thousand years ago. It also makes me sad that the people who'd view everyone who frequents this forum as an "enemy" are blinding themselves to just how wonderful and great so many of you actually are, and how we all share common hopes and dreams and aspirations and that we all, as fellow human beings spending our lives on planet Earth, basically need the same things. We need food, water, air, land, support systems, friends, shelter, and a means to get it all.

Um... that's it as far as my $0.40 goes.

Could someone with a blogger account please log onto that and argue his points? I just tried and I can't sign on.

The main thing I want to know is if the UN goes, what the fuck is going to replace it? Surely as a "democrat" he doesn't believe the answer is "SUPER-AMERICA"?

in the short run, their 'bigotry' is marginally more important to their personal well-being than the other stuff

Average income per state, with state election outcome

State average IQ, together with election result

Not so sure you can working out the avarage IQ of a state, though the guy who made the table did explain how he got his figures.

Not all christians are bigots

However, there are many Christians who are not necessarily bigots, but have been taught, trained, and just absolutely indoctrinated in their teaching, but who can be reminded that being a good Christian means loving everybody, instead of preaching hate. We need to reach out to these people and remind them to look to the Gospel to learn what it means to be a good Christian.

And if that isn't a good counteraction to all the 'dismiss them all unreservedly' hoohah going around, I don't know what is. The key point is addressed -- TALK with them rather than shout.

"Just because it says something in the Bible doesn't mean there are no ancillary arguments supporting it. And just because someone uses the Bible as a source of their morality doesn't mean that any particular view of theirs is wrong. Actually, stuff that's lasted for thousands of years is more likely to be useful than stuff that was dreamed up in a French philosophy book."

AGEIST!

And DREAMED UP! Oh, wait, though - it's a FRENCH Philosophy book. That's OK, then.

Next thing you know, we'll be able to politely justify Bill Kristol's wretched off-the-cuff comment about the media's "strange obsession" with Abu Gharib. (Maybe he said "unecessary obsession", I can't recall, but still.)

OK HI DUMBASSES I AM AWARE OF THIS FACT, AS IS THE ENTIRE KNOWN WORLD ABOVE THE AGE OF, SAY, 12. WHEN GERMANY ATTACKED RUSSIA, THIS WAS KIND OF OUT THE WINDOW. HENCE MAKING THE IDEA THAT POLAND WOULD STILL BE CRAWLING WITH RUSSIANS AND GERMANS ERRONEOUS, SINCE THEY REFUSED TO GET ALONG FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS. PLEASE NOTE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE USE OF THE WORD "STILL" REPEATEDLY IN THIS REALLY ASININE AND STUPID CONVERSATION.

Jesus people pick up a damn history book already.

(Tad this isn't directed towards you since you were making a flipping joke)

What is "some college" versus "more college"???

= zadie smith (okay not really)(also not american)

Replace "harsh words" with "tons of air-to-ground ordinance" and you have what is exactly Bush's Get Bin Laden strategy (or, for that matter, what most likely would have been exactly Gore's Get Bin Laden strategy, although I like to hope in my heart of hearts that Al Gore would've at least not invaded Iraq until AFTER confirming Bin Laden captured/dead).

I'm having a hard time following all of the threads on ilx, but there does seem to be a lot of smug sentiment around here that 'educated' people are not to blame for any of this.

Or has ilx gotten so bad that even a college degree doesn't count as 'educated' anymore?

Now that IS stupid.

The UN - Kerry never said we should delegate decisions to the UN. He made it clear that he thinks the UN is flawed.

Casualties being unacceptable - I don't recall Kerry ever making the point that a certain number of casualties is unacceptable. He has stated that the president should be able to use military force if necessary.

No pre-emption - Kerry maintained that we do have the right of pre-emption.

States allowed to define marriage - Kerry supported this.

Drawing a line on where human life starts - Kerry's not opposed to this, he just doesn't think that the line should be drawn at conception.

Just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean it's wrong - Obviously, who would disagree with this?

Maybe there are specific arguments that the Dems aren't hearing, but they're not the ones that the Backseat Philosopher listed.

No it's not!!! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

too stupid to vote

I wasn't addressing your point. I was, as usual, being an annoyingly aggressive fact-checking pedant.

Democrats, he said, should continue to point out GOP faults and hold the party accountable to the people.
"Our job will be to point out [the bad policy decisions] and say, 'Look, this is what you get,'" he said.
Reached at his home minutes after Senator John Kerry delivered his concession speech, Frank said now that Republicans have ultimate government control of Congress and the Presidency, the nation will be truly tested on whether they approve of Bush's policies.
"I think a large part of the public likes the conservatives' theme music," he said. "Now they will be tested on whether they like the lyrics."
As to what Kerry supporters will do now, Frank said it was too early to tell.
"Some will be energized," some won't, he said. "What can you do about it?"

I like this metaphor.

Like, you know, Rosseau, Voltaire, de Montesquieu...all that annoying shit our founding fathers had a nodding acquaintance with.

I voted for Bush to usher in the complete and utter destruction of the United States. Sometimes, you just have to tear it all down and start over again. No one will destroy America faster than Bush. Go Bush!
Tim, Los Angeles, CA, USA