This Is The Thread Where I Say Pt 24: Baby Making ? Hot Sex or Business Arrangement?

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This is the thread where I say pt 23: We had to go home...blah....

We don't have to go home no more...but we can't stay here.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Nice thread(s)!

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago)

So, tell us more about your balls and their recent evacuation.

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago)

We don't have to take our clothes off, but it helps & is less mess!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago)

YOOOOOOGE

http://www.nodice.ca/theapprentice/images/donald.jpg

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I imagine it to be like this...
http://www.neystadt.org/john/album/NZ/Hong-Kong-Sydney-Bangkok/DSCN0272-Hong-Kong-Fountain.JPG

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand what "yooge" means - unless you're like she was "omg it's YOOGE" when you played hide the salami.

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago)

spot on....

close mark, but she would have realized the salami was yooge a long time ago. lets just say the evacuation, as you put it...was filled with glee.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Canadian bukkake:

http://www.buffalocvb.org/images/photogallery/Niagara%20falls.jpg

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago)

YOOGE = D. trump's pronun. of HUGE maybe?

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago)

or is that not even relevant what with all the gushin' here :)

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago)


Thats how the Donald pronounces huge.

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Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago)

if and when my wife gets pregnant this child is going to be a mess. the music its dad puts on for loving is going to screw with his head. last night was Mad Cobra's 'Flex'. all 4:04 of it.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Was it urgent and key to finish before the next track came on?

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah it was Black Sabbath "War Pigs"....i had hit shuffle on Winamp by mistake.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago)

it's morning.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Good morning.

When I just got to my desk, it was COVERED in new job folders, notes from coworkers (Please do this, that, and the other...), and a box full of samples. Meanwhile, a coworker is asking me about an invoice. Then a book almost fell on my head. Then I opened my work email and ay ay ay...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago)

My desk was also covered. It's not anymore. I hate my desk, I want to see it burn!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Now I have a more u&k question, has anyone got some cake I can have?

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I have an apple! And 5 clementines!

I want cake too :(

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Go get some, you lazy man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I should open a bakery. The market seems to indicate there's sufficient demand for sweets.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I might get a Starbucks cake/pastry today - they have a selection that really does look delicious, even if the 4 different ones I've tried have mostly disappointed. I had a mini-tiramisu for pudding at lunchtime, which was v nice. Hmm, am Bridget Jones all of a sudden. Weight 176 pounds etc etc

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I have satsumas, (there goes another one) but I want some cake, or maybe something savoury?
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I'm going to see Bridget Jones tonight! mmm popcorn!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I haven't even opened my doors and I've already lost my best customer to some faceless chain!

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Huk-L, Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if you had a bakery, I think you'd be even more sexy! Aslong as you stocked maple & pecan danishes!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago)

CAN HUCK GET ANY SEXIER?!?!

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Huck, what's your real first name? Or is it Huck? Or a secret?

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

CAN HUCK GET ANY SEXIER?!?!
Of course! Huck just has to work it out for himself!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:13 (twenty years ago)

His real name is Tom, but he prefers to be seen as the bad boy Huck.

I really like the new Bridget Jones. I'd read the book. I mean, it's almost exactly like the first one, but I really liked the first one. But I won't spoil anything for you.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I have decided that Steve Dahl and Jim Derogatis are the same person. Dero is clearly just an old, fat, pock-marked Dahl.

No, no, I like Dahl! He may be a rockist, but he no longer makes a living at it -- for the past 20 years, he's done talk radio. And he's pretty funny sometimes. Also, his favorite band ever is the Beach Boys, so I can't complain too much. (Also also, Dahl is at least 10 years older than DeRo and a hefty guy, too, maybe not as big, though.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago)

(That quote is Kenan's from the Pt 23 thread -- can I do that??)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Lady if you have to ask...

I really like the new Bridget Jones. I'd read the book. I mean, it's almost exactly like the first one, but I really liked the first one. But I won't spoil anything for you.
Oh I've read the book! I didn't like it as much as the first, so I guess the film will be the same!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I was about to stick up for Dahl, too, but figured the moment had passed. He's like a bazillion times more likable and humorous than DeRogatis. It's very unfair to judge him on one thing he did for publicity 25 years ago, and using today's anti-rockist filter.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I am going to see the new Bridget Jones movie with my mom this weekend as break from making PIES! (apple & pumpkin)
BTW-jaymc I had no idea you had a blog, I really liked reading your article on SMILE, esp. the Stool Boom reference you snuck in their. Kenan I'm a big fan of Gigantic as well.
Which ILXor does Radio Free Narnia? I can never remember.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Also, John, he never really made a living off it, I don't think. It's just that, outside Chicago, Disco Demolition is all he would be known for, if he's known at all.
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oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago)

there not their. An English degree is totally worthless.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Bingo, congrats on breaking the testicular dam.

In other news, I might go see M4r!lyn M4ns0n tomorrow night!!! PROSTHETIC TITIES FOR ONE AND ALL.

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn, it's the wonderful Mark Sinker who does Radio Free Narnia.

Haha - you try having an Italian degree :|

Ol' prune face (Mark C), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, Update your blog!

Jaymc, I gave you a shout out on mine because I really liked that entry too.

Pink, Edge of Reason (the book) was a bit depressing and dramatic, but they gloss over it in the movie. You'll see.

Also, would you like some of my cupcake? It's a coworkers b-day today and she brought in chocolate cupcakes with white frosting and little candies on top.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:42 (twenty years ago)

thanks Jeanne... ;)

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Pink, Edge of Reason (the book) was a bit depressing and dramatic, but they gloss over it in the movie. You'll see.
Yeah? I found it all a bit far-fetched tbh! (i haven't had a chance to respond to your email yet, hopefully tomorrow!)

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Far-fetched? Yeah, that too.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I can only vaguely remeber the book though, so it's all good!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I am annoyed because my boss is gone today so I was just going to relax but someone else gave me a stupid project to do oh well. But I did take the time to write a miniature absurdest Western story for Invisible Crutch.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Oops -- I think Dahl actually did spin records back in the 70s, which I assume were what we'd now call classic rock?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago)

N/A, that is like "The Dead" of miniature absurdist Western stories.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago)

In other news, I might go see M4r!lyn M4ns0n tomorrow night!!!

Does he google his name now? ;-)

Tonight, what IS tonight for me...oh right, helping in friends Y and Guy's garden. :-) Then after that I don't know, probably clean up some reviews for the AMG and catch up with some listening and reading.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking through this recreational products catalog because the government has a dire need of PINBALL MACHINES. I didn't realize cues could be so expensive. $600?! WTF?! Also, all ladies need this T-shirt that says RACK across the chest.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Do people want links to their Livejournals on my blog? For some reason, I decided long ago not to link Livejournals because they tend to be more of a "private" endeavor than other blogs. But there's at least a half-dozen I read and like, and if you don't mind the publicity, I'll link ya. (My blogroll mostly serves as a reminder for ME to keep up, anyway.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. . .I mean I'm sure if the kids say no, that will be taken up as a discplinary issue and look suspicious.

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I'm curious to see exactly how this pans out. Granted I'd say that 2/3 of our kids use drugs (at least) and about a quarter of my batch have PO officers. Although those are just as often for violent crimes rather than drugs.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:09 (twenty years ago)

And beyond that, doesn't it seem totally impractical? Do the kids only use one desk, and I'm sure traces of drugs can end up all over the place without you partaking.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Tep, the kids have the rights under IDEA.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago)

But that's one act and it's not a very broad one.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago)

The idea is the same. A child's civil rights can be violated in exactly the same way that a child can be victim of a crime. Being a minor limits your right to enter into contracts, it doesn't abrogate rights of citizenship.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Of course it does. The idea -- so to speak -- isn't the same at all. In loco parentis assumes pretty obviously that the parents are the primary delegates of the child's rights, or it wouldn't be necessary to begin with. It's why parents can "violate" their child's rights by grounding them, sending them to the corner, whatever; it contributes to our ability to make education mandatory; etc. Now, a parent can still sue on their child's behalf and argue that a school has abused or stepped outside the bounds of in loco parentis, but it isn't the same argument as an individual arguing against the abuse of their own rights.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:25 (twenty years ago)

what is idea? Yes Kevin, it seems impractical to me for that reason. I have a hard enough time trying to figure out which kid carved on a certain desk, never mind who left traces of coke behind.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:30 (twenty years ago)

I didn't think the children arguing was the point in question, but rather the legal question of whether their rights could be violated (which they can't be) under the law.

For example, I am a special education advocate right now. The child has civil rights, and ANY individual, not just the parent, can bring a violation of rights to the attention of the Office of Civil Rights, or identify the child for evaluation if they suspect educational rights are being violated. Parental status is not the key, the violation of the child's rights is the issue.

The legal principle of in loco parentis you describe operates in lawsuits and in civil law; but the practical question of can a child's *civil* rights be legally violated--the answer is no they can't. There is no Constitutional right or law about being grounded, so this analogy doesn't work. I feel we are talking past each other somehow.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago)

i still just find it bizarre that DEA agents are making surprise inspections at junior highs.

orbit, when and if I actually witness it, trust me, I'll see what can be complained about.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:35 (twenty years ago)

I think we are, cause if you look up, remember that I said that the child's civil rights were largely held in trusteeship by the parents. The child, whether they want to or not, delegates their rights to the parents; the parents, whether they want to or not, delegate or share their rights to the school. Just as a child has no protection against a parent reading their diary, they have no protection against a school making what would otherwise be an illegal search. It isn't a matter of their rights being violated as such, because they have essentially consented.

Except where we've ruled or otherwise decided that they do have those protections -- such as locker searches, maybe (that'll be fought back and forth for awhile), and desk searches might be objectionable on the same grounds. And in both cases -- child delegating to parent, parent delegating to school -- there are cases where an argument can be made that the trustee has abused or neglected their power. But those are after the fact arguments, it's rare that they can be used to prevent something.

In any event, my point was never "this search is perfectly okay," it was "these situations are not clear cut." Legal arguments can and have been made both ways, and they'll continue to be because it'll be a long time before we have a Supreme Court decision that settles the matter in terms broad enough to cover all the areas and specific enough to cover all the instances.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:39 (twenty years ago)

(I caught part of a West Wing rerun the other day that said something about privacy being the big, recurring legal issue of the next fifty years, which I think is the smartest and most accurate thing I've heard on television lately that wasn't related to sports.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:41 (twenty years ago)

I think I see the confusion. One point though: Parents don't delegate a child's rights to the school at any point. Schools do not hold student rights of any kind. The claims schools make to justify searches are not rights-based, they are criminal law claims about due process and probable cause. The school isn't asserting civil rights when they order a search, the are asserting the criminal code.
Maybe this is the point where we agree to disagree?

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I think we pretty much agree on specifics and disagree on implications of the specifics, so at that point we just wait to go to trial :)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:55 (twenty years ago)

On that note, I wanted to add that when people said their mouth tasted of ass, I thought it was a figure of speech. Now I know it's a literalism.

(NB I have not been eating ass or coming into contact with ass in any way)

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Wha?

God, I hate the atmosphere in this university. It's like people sit there stewing in their offices, always expecting the worse, and when they get it losing no time in telling EVERYONE (via email obv) exactly how unhappy and angry they are and how unfair everything is, and generally revelling in feeling hard done by and being proved right in their low opinion of everyone else.

I mean, yes there are probably major problems. But does the entire school (including the students for unprofessionality's sake!) need to read the argument going back and forth on email ALL DAY? No. Just fuck off and get a job somewhere else if you hate it so much.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago)

does someone have really really really bad breath, mark?

or (aaargh) digestive problems resulting in reverse parastalsis (i think that's what it's called, when everything's fucked up and things go in completely the opposite direction (puking up....stuff that should be going out the other end)? (which makes me very happy that i don't have much in the way of digestive problems). now THAT would be literal. eww.

i woke up to the sound of snowplows at 4 am. the joys of winter... snow is pretty though.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah one of the residents at Matt's work had that or similar, she was basically so constipated that her breath smelled of shit. Lovely.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Major backtracking:

how are you certain you don't like it?

-- Miss Misery (texan...), November 25th, 2004.

Good point. I probably should have added that I've never NOT bought something just because of the gender or orientation of the performers, either. It's definitely a slippery slope once you get on it. In my list, I also forgot to mention that I love Jr. Sr. (who I played last night), but they're only half queer, so do I get partial marks? And my comments about the new Gentleman Reg album should not be interpreted to mean that I think it's no good. I just haven't heard it yet. I'm sure it's as brilliant as Make Me Pretty, which was one of my favourite albums of whatever year it came out, 2002, I think? And it's very much a queer album. In one review, I think I said that this album should be to coming out what Dylan's Blood On The Tracks is to divorce.
I haven't been divorced, nor have I come out (not that there's anything for me to come out about), but I still like to hear songs/albums about things that don't relate specifically to my experiences. I definitely related to a lot of the insecurities and desires to be loved on the G. Reg album. Damn, now I've talked about it so much, I think I'll have to buy it next week.

I forget, doesn't the radio station have a library?

-- Casuistry (chri...), November 25th, 2004.

Yes it does, but aside from a few donations (including many, many from me) it really only goes back three years.

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Why's everyone so quiet today? Why's ILE in general so quiet today? It can't just be Thanksgiving - I thought family holidays meant even MORE time in front of computers posting banalities to get away from drunk/lecherous/tedious rellies.

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Hey Americans, GET OUT OF BED!!!

So, remember a week or so ago, I posted about the op-ed piece from the young woman about how she thought gay marriage was wrong and how would she explain it to her children?
There was a response in today's letter page that kicked ass, basically equating the equal right to marriage with women getting the vote and how many people offered similar arguments, like "what next, dogs voting?"
It was a great letter. It also asked if the woman thought explaining to her children why so-and-so has two mommies was difficult, how about explaining why all people aren't given fair and equal treatment by the law.

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I have a headache that won't quit. I wish I had thanksgiving food to eat.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Get Mark to make you these:
http://www.woolfit.com/pumpkincranberrymuffins.html

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago)

thanksgiving, easter, etc. are always really really quiet on the internet, when it comes to americans, it seems. people are being forced into watching football and spending Quality Family Time and all of that.

hey, hi, i'm out of bed! i might just consider that my accomplishment of the day...

(those muffins sound yummy)

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago)

YUM. archel those sound so good! I wonder how they cook the 1 cup of pumpkin though. It's questions like that which prevent me from being a chef. I just woke up from a nap thinking of pecan pie. I'd planned to cook a big dinner tomorrow but if I feel this cack I don't know that it'll happen.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Boil it? I wish the quantities weren't in cups, too, but that's my Englishness obviously.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:49 (twenty years ago)

heh yeah, it's hard for me to translate recipes sometimes.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 25 November 2004 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Hey sweetie, are you okay? Still feeling crappy? Give me a call if you want - and as for tomorrow's dinner, I don't mind doing most of the actual work if you want to tell me what to do :)

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues02/jan02/images/looking_01.jpg

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Sorry Huck, I don't got nothing interesting to say.

Or have I... no, nothing's coming to me. If you're bored, you might like this golf game (honestly, it's really good).

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I can moan a bit more about work if you like. Actually though, the latest email in the string is from my psycho boss... and it's completely reasonable, tactful, sane and helpful! I'm in shock.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Archel, I think what's going on at your workplace absolutely sucks, and yeah, you're right -- those people with issues that they feel the need to address shouldn't be doing that en masse. It *does* smack of unprofessionalism.

I've been up since 9 a.m. I finished making this concotion featuring cranberry sauce, cream cheese, and Cool Whip, and my hands got really sticky until I washed them. I'm not cooking any turkey right now because we're scheduled to go to at least two different places today -- three if we end up going to yet ANOTHER place "just for dessert and coffee". It's been pretty much the same routine for the past five years; we go to one relative's house for the big dinner and another's for the dessert. We don't exactly come empty-handed to either, though -- we always provide at least one or two dishes for each place. Today, we're carting over half of the cranberry slop, the canned corn (the Wal-Mart brand I prefer), and some dressing (just for Mom and me) over to one place, and the other half of the cranberry slop for the other place.

I really should be downstairs, though. Have to leave the house at some unreasonably early time, as per you-know-who's wishes. ;) I've got the VCR set to record some "Queer Eye" specials that are going to be running throughout the day because I am a lame fangirl type, thanks for asking, and the only thing I need to do now is put on a little makeup (special occasions, you know). Hope you guys have an awesome day!

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago)

You too, Dee!

I wonder why we Brits eat turkey at Xmas? I'm sure the answer is extremely easy to find in internetshirre, but I'm not going to look as I'd like some kind ILXor to tell me. I am suspecting TURKEY MARKETING GONE MAD as it's a pretty dull, inconvenient meat. I think Sarah* is going to do us chicken tomorrow night. I am excited.

*or me, if she's feeling too under the weather.

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I need to get off my ass too. Promised myself that I'd mop the bathroom before I left.

This is the first thanksgiving I've done in four or five years. My mom asked me to please come and I was going to b/c my friend was going with me but then she cancelled out at the last minute. D'OH!

Fucking hate holidays. Don't even like eating. . .

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Sam, I hope your day turns out MUCH better than expected! If you don't like eating, you could always pick at the food while listening in on the conversation.

Mark, isn't turkey some sort of traditionalish holiday meat selection or something? I mean, not like I have any idea; all I know is that we (Americans) got turkey from the English settlers who brought it along with them. Or something. Trying to remember what that whole story was.

I've officially gotten my first wardrobe veto of the day. Mom disapproved of my slightly casual appearance, because, she reminded me, we ARE going over to that second relative's house, and if you look up "one-upmanship" in the dictionary, you'll see a picture of THAT set of relatives. Yeah, so I have to look better than usual. That's why I'm up here again. Which means I need to get moving. Ugh.

(I wish we could stay with that first set of relatives throughout the day. Gack.)

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago)

HOW DARE YOU BLASPHEME TURKEY! Suffer my wrath!

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Turkey used to be less dull and less inconvenient -- it's actually both of those things because it's traditional, not the other way around: turkey breeding has for hundreds of years resulted in turkeys with ridiculously large breasts compared to non-domesticated ones (it's been going on long enough that it's true even for most heritage breeds), which makes the turkey the wrong dimensions for proper whole-bird roasting. Hence all the "tricks" to keep the breast from drying out while the thighs finish, most of which -- cooking in a bag, covering with foil, etc -- involve not actually roasting the turkey. (Brining works better.)

I suspect the tradition is simply because turkeys are large enough to feed many people without limiting the meat portion, and poultry in general used to be much more expensive, more of a luxury -- even less than a century ago, "a chicken in every pot" wasn't a promise of the bare minimum, it was a promise of a nice and comfortable standard of living, like promising "a steak every Sunday" now.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Well, I rather like Thanksgiving. But I have been too tired to cook, and I don't think I'm feeling up to going, even. Bleh. But in a few weeks we're hosting a "friendsgiving" or whatever, just inviting everyone over for a potluck, so that will be nice. I have that to look forward to.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 November 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago)

So in the TV listings magazine this week, which is done up mostly by unseen Ontario hands, under the Soaps sum-ups there's this amazing line for As The World Turns: "Jennifer falls asleep in Mike's anus, and as Mike tells the absent the absent Katie be hopes she's happy." SIC

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm missing a "friendsgiving" tomorrow night by going to Austin. It was a hard choice.

Thanks for the wishes Dee and I hope yours goes well too. I just don't do family. period. I'm going to try and grin and bear it for two hours and then hightail it back to Dallas.

Guess I'd better get going to. Have put it off long enough. . .

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Huk that is the best summary ever.

I am feeling better! Headache is still here but I took a shower and got a temp. job offer and these have cheered me.

I'm not hungry, but I should be. I wonder if I should eat before I go out. So far today I've had bran flakes and hard-boiled eggs and lots of sick meds. Blech. Maybe I should get a 'turkey and stuffing' sandwich on the way into town.

Good luck with your thanksgivings, everyone.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Whoops, I put an extra "the absent" in that summary , but it's not like that's the part you care about anyway!

Hmmm, it's so nice and dark and warm in here, I think I'll just rest my eyes.

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:23 (twenty years ago)

getting totally addicted to this golf game mark linked to! i really suck at it though.

except i got a hole in one once! but keep losing overall.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it great, Julia? I got to level 9 once [brag brag]. It's so addictive I've played it in open sight in the middle of the office during proper work hours. I R hardcorx0r.

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:45 (twenty years ago)

That was frustrating. Why did the direction meter move so damn fast? Was the golfer doing the rhumba before swinging?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, the wind change has only swung right round lots on one game - maybe it only happens when you get quite advanced?

He's allergic to lettuce (Mark C), Thursday, 25 November 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Not the wind direction, the direction of my swing.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Well, I got a call this morning and my great aunt Ruby has died Thanksgiving morning. She was the last of that generation in my family to go, except for my granddady, who is still alive. What a month this has been.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Oof. Were you close to her?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to hear that, Orbit.
I spent last Saturday hanging out with my Grandfather, who'll be 90 in February. Before going to visit him this past summer I hadn't seen him in nearly 10 years. I don't know why. At first I just missed opportunities, and then I was scared to see after so long. Shitty of me. But since the summer I've been 2 or 3 times, making special efforts to get up (he lives about 5 hours away, in a town I have no other reason to visit) there.
The first thing I think when I see him is that he's looking pretty rough, and then I remember he's almost 90. He looks rough for a 70, 75 yr-old, but when you consider he's 89, he's in great shape. Especially considering he's never really taken that great care of himself. But he still drives around in his town of about 2000, and only just last week got a hearing aid (though he's needed one for a while--"I'm still not sold on it," he told me, despite the fact that he previously couldn't talk on the phone.)
His wife of about 35 years is in the hospital for the second time in 2 months, and probably doesn't haven't much left in her. He's really scared, partly for selfish reasons. "I'm not a very good bachelor," he told me as he struggled to figure out how to make a frozen pizza.
He's a pretty remarkable guy, and I need to make more time to visit with him. He started telling me about his WW2 navy experiences and seems to have a lot more to tell. He keeps asking me if I've started writing my book. I'm sure he wants to read it.
Old people are weird. Frightening and sweet.

After work (in about 10 minutes) I'm gonna go downtown and buy the Spongebob sndtrack. Maybe I'll see the movie this weekend.

Huk-L, Thursday, 25 November 2004 20:56 (twenty years ago)

A friend of mine was getting excited about the Spongebob movie, and I said how I couldn't think of anyone who had seen it yet and didn't have any sense as to whether it was considered good or not, and my friend said, "Who do you know who would see the Spongebob movie?" and I could only think of one person.

Other than him, of course.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 25 November 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago)


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