There doesn't appear to be a Schindlers List Thread....

there's probably a Spielberg thread somewhere that gets into it. And I know there's a thread where I make some ill-conceived analogy about James Brown or something, and Amateruist jumps all over my ass.

I saw it a long time ago and don't remember it too well, but I do remember hating it. I remember a scene of women undressing before possibly being gassed that was a bit more sexy than it really needed to be given the context. Also the "happy" ending with its Hollywood moralising and upbeat, sentimental focus on the survivors - you too can pull through even the worst calamities if you put your mind to it! The message of the Holocaust is not really the people who survived but the people who died.

Just do a search for "Amateurist jumps ass"

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i thought this thread was for us to list the 1100 people on Schindler's List

I saw it in the theater, so I was pretty young. Oddly enough all I remember is the scene where one of the nazis is having sex with a woman (who is secretly a Jew?), and then goes over to his balcony and snipes a concentration camper.

I'm mixed on this movie - overall, I think it is effective - I think the brutal clearing of the Jewish ghetto (in Cracow I think) during the first third is brilliant filmaking and the presentation of the inhumanity of the Nazi true believers (like Fiennes' character) was well done - also, the rendering of Schindler in the first 3/4 of the movie as an unrepentant war profiteer is much more credible (see recent book exposing the depths of the real life Schindler's money-grubbing ways) than the "happy ending" transformation - I feel the worst offense in this treatment of the Holocaust in Poland is the tacked on Auschwitz visit by the Jews Schindler was working to protect, it just screams Hollywood exploitation - when I visited Auschwitz II at Birkenau last year, the guide was adamant in anouncing their lack of involvement in the making of Schindler's List - Speilberg had to reconstruct the classic image of the train yard and stone gate that makes up the entry to Birkenau, because he wasn't allowed to film on what is rightly condsidered sacrosanct property - The insertion of that scene just seemed cliche', like having a fucking cat jump out at the protagonist as they nervously investigate a noise in the kitchen in countless slasher movies - Birkenau, the worst of the death camps where an estimated 2 million Jews were gassed and burned, deserves a movie in its own right, particularly considering it was the source for many of the anti-Nazi Polish underground fighters who would write manuscripts that would make it to London and the US to expose the horrors being committed against the Jews at Auschwitz - An interesting debate was generated out of their work, as the American military delved into a cost-benefit analysis on just how to best deal with all the irrefutable evidence of the Holocaust pouring in through Intelligence channels. The prevailing mindset was to save the Jews by winning the war, instead of rerouting military resources to alleviate the Holocaust directly, like bombing train lines or the crematoriums and so forth - This crucial decision has taken on a life of its own, like the debate over dropping the atomic bomb; but I've blathered on enough, what do you guys think?

I did a search for "amateurist jumps" and got this: Truly: Who's the hottest chick poster on this board? (no joke)