T/S Dublin or Glasgow?

"It's all stag and hen nights, expensive drink, vomit on the street!"

And? This means I'm going to dislike it? Does this make it any different to Glasgow - which I love?

I don't know how it differs from Glasgow cos I have never been, despite Nick telling me it costs just 5p to fly from Dublin to Glasgow "you stupid twat".

it's only like this in Temple Bar.

I had a lovely time, I'd rather spend a weekend there than on Sauchiehall Street. But then I'm biased, Glasgow doesn't hold much for me anymore and I like flying :~)

After work one day earlier in the year I ran into a pub to catch the end of the Ireland-England Six Nations rugby game, as I got in I heard this awful groan and thought "oh shit we've lost".

Then realised everyone in there was English. Hooray/time to leave.

I like flying.

Not been to Glasgow. Live in Dublin. I may not know much but I know what I like :)

I am going to pick Glasgow because I like Jim Kerr's sushi place, and there is no good sushi place in Dublin. I think that's fair.

Aya = overpriced and terrible. The other place is just a karaoke bar that doesn't turn on it's ovens!

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The sashimi in Yamamori is still okay, though.

That said, I think Wagamama is a great place for winter comfort food. Beef Ramen and a beer, life doesn't get much better when you're cold. It used to have the best looking staff as well. Not anymore though, what happened? When did recruitment stop being so superficial!

Can anyone out there recommend a place that does good non-sushi japanese food?

trich i'd be interested in hearing you say more about this. what's the party and why do you object?

i enjoyed my visit and it was lovely to meet ilxors but it seemed to me that Dublin as city had been superceded by Dublin as tourist venue and that, to some extent, it seemed like the citizens themselves were playing a part in the continuation of a myth. the only other city i've visited where the commercial imperative seemed to have tarnished the place was Barcelona.

thinking about medical school in Dubbelin: good idea/bad idea? all this stag/hen talk has me a bit put off. i don't remember it being that way. then again, i lived in clontarf, commuted to school and was too poor to hang in temple bar that much (also: it blew).

kinda liked Galway better, to be honest. but not much of a city.

That said, College of Surgeons has a really good reputation. If you've spent time in Dublin already then you are in a better position than me to reccomend what you should do choice wise.

Temple bar is horrible. It's handy though, contains the parties. Stags and hens all go for eastern europe now, much cheaper than here.

TB is good for reason above. Oh and the farmers market on saturday. Like a real pseud I get my coffee there. *Tosses scarf over shoulder*

Galway is even more of a rubbish theme park of a place than Dublin.

what's the party and why do you object?

It was kind of a throwaway line, but I do object to the party that is Nu-Dublin, in a way. I don't like huge pubs that stay open all night, and the whole place is just full all the time. It's got so that if you want to have a pint in your favourite pub, you have to go on a Wednesday at four o'clock or you won't get a seat. I don't like that. I don't really like that there aren't many good coffee shops or cafes where you can go and sit with people and NOT drink. But then, I am an oldarse and I like a few pints with folks and a single of chips sitting on a wall and then home.

Also, did we ever find somewhere that does a good full Irish?

Good pubs? Madam *clicks knuckles* where to begin?

-Burchills in Ranelagh, buzzy, mixed crowd and seating.
-Front Lounge. Smells like socks, good cocktails and actually only gets heaving late into the night.
-O'Neills on Pearse Street. Always quiet, had my 25th there and basically had the run of the place.
-Cassidys on Camden Street. Old men, young people. Chat is the game, being a noisy eejit isn't (zaytoon next door for your single of chips and a wall directly opposite in front of the painting suppliers)
-That place just up from Gubu on Capel Street on the left. Can't remember the name but always pretty settled.
-Smyths on Abbey Street. Gets busy but nice crowd.

Off the top of my head that's the first I can think of. I'd say the porterhouse does a good fry, I'd be amazed if O'Neills on Suffolk Street didn't. Wait! The place at the bottom of Camden street opposite The Corner Stone. Looks like a good spot.

How far out are we allowed go geographically? Does anyone know anywhere nice by the coast that's within walking distance of the city center? I've heard of a nice place down by the war memorial gardens but I dunno if it's walkable to.

Nealons?

Didn't realise it had become a 'spot' as it were. That new place that used to be a church is nice during the early evening. Didn't stay cos it started filling up with autoeroticists with hair gel and ironed clothes and stuff. I hate them, me... They are the kind of people who wait for the capitol group to open a new bar with great excitement cos nothing screams *class* like overpriced drinks, dire music, tosserism and little tiles all over the place a la cafe en seine. Just look what they did to Howl at the Moon!

Burchills in Ranelagh, buzzy, mixed crowd and seating.

This is true, I used to go to Birchall's all the time. Sadly it's too far out of town for me now. I need northside or proximity to train stations.

-Front Lounge. Smells like socks, good cocktails and actually only gets heaving late into the night.

Well, I should have warned you that by 'full' I mean 'has no seats'. I have often gone into the Front Lounge after work (it being on the same street as the shop) to find it full, and have been forced into lesser pubs in the vicinity. It is a lovely place to go during the day for a coffee, though. On the weekends I don't like it, because everyone stares at you for a while to try and figure out if they should know who you are.

-O'Neills on Pearse Street. Always quiet, had my 25th there and basically had the run of the place.

Not been there in years. Nice pub, agreed. Pretty poor pint though, from what I remember. And full of suits on a Friday.

-Cassidys on Camden Street. Old men, young people.

I used to really like Cassidys until they changed all the seating around so that it's a lot of high tables now. Don't like it so much now. Also they seem to be always watching football in it.

-That place just up from Gubu on Capel Street on the left. Can't remember the name but always pretty settled

Nealons, yes. But only downstairs. Upstairs is always full of shrieking eejits and loud music.

Smyths on Abbey Street. Gets busy but nice crowd.

They do a reasonable lunch there too.

I'm always intrigued by The Oval, on Abbey St. It looks just like the Palace from the outside, but its location makes it suspect. I suppose part of me is a little resentful because several of my favourite pubs got turned into superpubs in the last seven or eight years. The major culprit here is the place on Baggot St where Mister Monkey used to drink with his chums before he was Mister Monkey. Used to be a lovely pub, now a high-ceilinged monstrosity with clackety floors and cream sofas and expensive drinks. Blecch.

That place that used to be a church, is that on the canal? Full of hateful suits any time I've been in there, if so.

That one you're talking about is the Waterloo, Mrs Monkey?

btw, by "hateful suits" I don't mean anyone in a suit, of course.

The Oval is a bit like the Barge, it should really work but due to some cataclysmic problem with the vents from the kitchen is just covered in grease. I have been there a few times and each time have worried about leaning on any surfaces or touching the walls. Rough crowd as well.

Speaking of changing pubs I think that the only improvement that came through chains was when Thomas Read group bought Dawson Lounge. Really nice inside now! The uniform TR look of dark pine and mirrors actually makes the space warmer will seeming bigger.

Does anyone have any preference regarding the day?

Other good pubs not mentioned yet

The Ha'Penny Inn, near the Ha'Penny Bridge, is small and squashed but the landlord is a crazed culchie, very friendly and funny. Wouldn't eat there by any means tho, unless you're a fan of gnarled ham sandwiches. It's a great old man pub, love it.

Library Bar in the Central Hotel, quiet and a bit like your granny's house if she was a British ambassador's wife.

And yeah Capitol is really shit, like the absolute pits, I shall never go there again if I have to. but it's funny, I will always have a soft spot for it because it's where I first kissed my girlfriend. It was a Sunday night and fucking NOWHERE else was open.

Whenever I go back, the little changes (where did that shop come from? When did that restaurant close down? What is that tram-thing doing on abbey st?) seem incredibly jarring to me. 5 years ago I would have weighed in with pub recommendations but now I don't feel qualified.

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