indiscrete blogs - classic or dud

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I was looking at the blog of someone I know from the internet the other day, and there was all this stuff in it about a messy break-up they were going through with someone else I know from the internet. It all seemed very personal and revelatory.

Is this kind of thing a good idea? Would people be better off maintaining a stiff upper lip instead of revealing their emotional turmoil to the world?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

indiscreet, I think you mean.

though perhaps ILX = a non-discrete blog?

TOMBOT, Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

errrrrr, you mean DISCREET and DISCRETE are separate, nay, discrete words?

I must write on my blog about the anguish this makes me feel.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

yes emotions are funny

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:36 (twenty years ago)

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

i love the way COMPUTO is nervously twistin his hands together

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

DV, I think I know who you are talking about. Kinda.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

you are psychic!

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

is it someone on that other forum we look at?

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Was said blogger an American? Americans are too blabby, like Stained signing about their parents' divorce. The best thing to do with pain and emotional turmoil is to KEEP IT ALL INSIDE.

andy --, Friday, 11 March 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but sometimes being indiscreet leads to interesting writing. Of course "interesting" being a very subjective thing. Besides, who wants to read about more repression?

Sara Sherr, Friday, 11 March 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Blogs are all about the style, seldom the substance. There are exceptions, of course. But if a blogger is a good writier, I'll be happy to read whatever he's writing about. If someone is dishing some personal dirt in turgid, purple prose, of course it's painful to read.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

my blog is the writiest

mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

I sometimes wonder if some younger people honestly forget/dont think that the whole world can read their journals online, as well. Based on the angry reactions when someone has a go at them, anyway. "Its MY journal, you leave me and my thoughts alone!" etc.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

I guess what I was trying to say that if someone's a good writer they'll be able to write about the personal stuff without being gross about it. At least that's what I try to do on my blog. But mostly I just make fun of my customers.

Sara Sherr, Friday, 11 March 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I'm reasonably personal on my blogs/online sites, always have been - but I try and make it more like a Calvinoesque reminiscence/monologue, I want it to be readable.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

_early_ [adopters[ of transparency can be thought of as being indiscreet, and give up, not because the philosophy is wrong, but this sort of lifestyle might be difficult because it's not popular enough yet, also early adopters might be in it for other reasons than to explore the potential of this type of communication, some psychological complexes, insecurities, needs impossible to satisfy guarantying to bring sandness (that is not the hedonist way)etc

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I have one of these now - I just started it because someone told me I should keep up the blogging habit while my regular one was in the dumper, and I've recently gotten extremely blabby on it. I don't tell anyone about it except those who already know.

It's kind of fun. So CLASSIC.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

I rarely blog about my personal life, inconsequential details only. I dunno, I think it's probably because it's none of your damn business.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

A very wise way to approach, I think. I cant help it - I like talking about me. Even my fiction is based on personal experience.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

i think it's just a plain dud. esp if you know said person irl.

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

a LOT of people whine/bitch about people on their blogs that they KNOW read it or it will get back to them. for this reason, I call it dud, it is largely passive-aggressive.

scout (scout), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm very careful to keep that kind of thing out of my blog, naming names and what have you.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

I've never had a blog (not counting ILX), pretty much for many of the reasons on this thread. I keep a diary, I keep it next to my bed, and no one reads it but me.

However, I'd never condem anyone for keeping a personal blog - I mean, better out than in. Emotions are like gas. Some people think it's rude to pass it, and it's probably better to do it in private or amoung people you feel comfortable doing it around. But no one would *ever* suggest you don't pass it.

It does kind of surprise me that people are *surprised* when others read them, or "forget" that they are public. It's easy to do, but I've been burned enough by stuff on ILX that I'd never share *really* private stuff again. It seems the kind of mistake you'd only make once.

Then again, I have an IRL friend who is currently in the middle of a nasty ongoing feud with several internet friends over things they do or don't publish on their blogs. It just seems too much of hassle to me.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Which is why my blog is now theme-based rather than a running log of my boring life.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

a LOT of people whine/bitch about people on their blogs that they KNOW read it or it will get back to them.

other people do this in zines they write. Actually I do this. I must stop doing this, it makes me a de facto blog person, and therefore bad.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

a friend and co-worker keeps a blog (that i don't read, but other friends do). apparently he writes way too much info about having sex with his girlfriend (why i don't read it, actually), and that's the way we all found out that a friend had gotten engaged. blogfriend was asked to be best man, wrote about it in his blog, where it was read by someone else in our gang, who emailed everyone. someone finally emailed groom-to-be and asked, and he admitted it. what a weird way to announce an engagement!

colette (a2lette), Friday, 11 March 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Anyone have checked the link I posted upthread, a short film called "Dark Night'' by Justin Hall:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/20/MNGBKBEJO01.DTL

For 11 years, Justin Hall was dedicated to documenting his life online. Composing more than 4,800 pages from nearly a decade of constant writing, which he posted on his site, www.links.net, Hall became a pioneer among online diarists and Web loggers.

For Hall, nothing seemed to be too embarrassing or too personal to write about -- with photos and links. From romantic relationships to his father's suicide to a bad case of shingles, he shared himself with a fairly substantial audience. Thousands of people read his site every day.

Then, in mid-January, he made a short film called "Dark Night'' and released it on the Internet. He replaced his ever-changing home page with a fixed red heart filled with question marks.(...)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

DUD. A few weeks ago I had to ask someone not to invoke my name on their blog, as said person was publicly feuding with someone I'd had a very bitter falling out with. They took the post down, but the damage was already done.

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 11 March 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Well I think it's dud for this reason alone. If you want to divulge details of your personal life, come on ahead. If I'm interested, I'll read them. If not, I won't. If that's okay with you, it's okay with me. But it's not okay to post OTHER PEOPLE'S private business on the innernet, in a zine, in a newspaper, anywhere. Unless you have their permission to do it or you are a journalist and it's vital that the world at large knows about it so that they can re-evaluate this person's fitness to run a country (my definition of fitness to run a country rarely includes what you dress up as for the purposes of sex in a private place, by the way).

If people need to blog this stuff they can do it anonymously, surely.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 12 March 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I think people also sometimes do this passive-aggressively, in that they say something that's meant to hurt somehow and then claim that it's just their journal and they're just expressing their thoughts - which is why it is UTTERLY dud.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 12 March 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Justin Hall is a somewhat fraught young man. I must admit I was chuckling heartily -- I mean heartlessly -- as I watched him wrestling with his self-created self-mediation problems. I think I saw a documentary about him on Arte once. He was on a lecture tour, giving lectures in Starbucks about his life as a blogger superstar. This was a couple of years ago, before many people had blogs, and I suppose it was easier then to stand out.

Discretion really has to be played by ear. I think most of us have an inherent sense of what should and shouldn't be said. I blog about culture, and I'm emotionally boringly stable, so it really doesn't come up. Actually, I did annoy some people I stayed in London with a few months ago by telling the world their apartment was scummy. I didn't mention their names, though. And they were acquaintances I didn't plan to keep in touch with. But it put my girlfriend in a difficult position because one of them was her friend. I told her "Just tell them I'm mad."

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 13 March 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

blogs: how much is too much?

i post personal stuff on ilx because it helps me be more positive or un-self-absorbed about it. in an attempt to get away from 'wah, i hate myself and want to die' and think things through.

but i think posting really pissy stuff about other people (which i don't think as all that different from political rants or some kinds of social/culture criticism) oftentimes comes from a strong feeling to speak out against some great evil or unfairness or maybe just mediocrity that someone has inflicted on the writer or the world at large. and the writer feels obligated to expose the pure 'facts' to everyone so they re-evalutate their thoughts on that person or thing. which of course can be naive, subjective, passive-aggressive, etc. you basically need a good case and good writing style to pull it off - and a little detachment helps.

lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Sunday, 13 March 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)


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