The Face Transplant Thread

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Has anyone been following this in the news? It's called the "Face Race," with several groups racing to be the first to successfully pull off this difficult and dangerous procedure: removing the burned/thrashed face and putting on a new one... from a DEAD PERSON.

http://www.plasticsurgeryresearch.louisville.edu/Face%20Transplant.htm

It's like ROCK HUDSON in "SECONDS"... Pretty soon there'll be wealthy Palm Springs old ladies KIDNAPPING starlets like Hillary Duff to STEAL their pretty faces!

― andy --, Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking more Face-Off myself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

I love the future so much.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

And there was me thinking of that bit in "The Manticore"

― Richard Jones (scarne), Thursday, 10 March 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.scientology-kills.org/images/celeb_sm_vansusteren1.gif

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www2.ez-entertainment.net/carpet/JoanRiversEM.JPG

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

i'd be more impressed with a scalp transplant, like in that episode of the simpsons where homer gets snake's scalp and he goes all criminal-like

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

Uh oh. If you don't like it don't they make you sit in a room with a typewriter for the rest of your life? I can't quite remember Seconds.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Every time I hear about the possibility of such a procedure I think of this story. It takes a while to read, but is really just amazing.

Free registration required. Worth it.

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 11 March 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

I'm surprised there's not a thread on the french woman who had a partial face transplant, or did I not search enough?

Are any of you disturbed by the ethical issues of a face transplant? I understand how it might be shocking psychologically to many of those directly touched by it, but other than that, it seems pretty much like any transplant to me.

The 38-year-old woman, a divorced mother of two teenager daughters whose name has not been disclosed, was mauled by a Labrador in May...

Mauled by a LAB?

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/newsimage/20051203/face.jpg

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised there's not a thread on the french woman who had a partial face transplant, or did I not search enough?

I started it the other day, but this seems like a good one to revive.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

The surgeon cannot make any promises regarding the results of his restorative efforts, which are always dubious," the committee's report said, adding that "authentic consent, therefore, will never exist."

This sounds like a rather odd factor for consent, to me. That doubt in an outcome makes consent impossible. Now, the fact that the patient is, I think, under duress, THAT might make consent impossible.

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

i read this face transplant article on cnn yesterday. but what struck me as even crazier was a woman w/parkinsons who had brain surgery while she was awake! they drilled into her skull and inserted eletrodes.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/11/07/rayilyn.brown/

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

I heard one with a woman who suffered seizures. The docs needed her conscious, drilled into her skull, and were able to identify the "crossed wires" by triggering siezures. Then then eliminated just that, uh whatever. Clump of nerves? I think they actually played a recording of them questioning her while they prodded around.

Jesus, that sounds too weird, am I making it up? I think I heard this story and it was real.

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of brain surgery is done with the patient awake. I believe they just use a local anasthetic to numb the top of the head, since you need to be conscious so they know they're putting electrodes in the right place. I've seen video where they ask the person if they perceive anything -- a smell, sensation, noise. Otherwise they can hook things up to the wrong place...

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

[The doctor] denied a French media report that the woman was attacked by the dog after she had passed out from having taken pills in a suicide attempt. Instead, he said the woman had taken a pill to try to sleep after a family argument and was bitten by the dog during the night.

Also, he did not continue, the family member with whom she had been arguing the previous night had smeared her unconscious face liberally with pork chop grease.

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6440/alexqueen9hm.jpg
© 2005, Esteban Buttez. all rights reserved.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even sure this would be psychologically "shocking" to people in its immediate orbit. I mean, the current standard practice for this sort of thing involves cutting the skin out of your ass, hole-punching it into cheesecloth, and plastering it over your face. There's a level on which a transplant might be considered less creepy, especially when the outcome should reconstruct your original face way more accurately than a pathwork of grafts and sutures is likely to. I mean, granted, if you go in for a kiss on the cheek thinking "that's dead-person cheek! it's nothing but zombie underneath!" then maybe that'd mess with you, but I'm sure most people would take that over "oh no what a horrible mess of mangled half-face."

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

IT'S ALIVE!!

― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

It would be funny to find out the name of the donor, then go up to the
transplant recipient and pretend to think it's the donor, and that you're
a good friend that hasn't seen her in a while...

― shieldforyoureyes, Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Here is a picture of the results... not so hot.

http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,17967407%5E950,00.html

― andy --, Friday, 3 February 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://citypaper.net/articles/2005-03-24/screen-1.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

And now...the first face transplant in the United States.

The new face, Staffenberg says, "winds up being somewhere in between the two, but not like the patient looked before or like the donor exactly."
Some have questioned the ethics of transplanting the face of a dead person onto that of a living one, because a failed procedure would be painful and emotionally devastating. Critics also decried the potential for abuse, of people seeking the dangerous procedure for cosmetic purposes. But the concept has gradually become more accepted. Since 2005, two partial face transplants have been performed in France, and another one took place in China. Today doctors justified the fourth, arguing that the recipient could not function in society with such an extreme deformity.
"The patient was really suffering whenever she appeared in a social situation," Siemionow said. "She was called names. Children were afraid of her—they were running away.

― (Z S) (Z S), Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://imgur.com/642sz.jpg

http://imgur.com/AgRPg.jpg

The world's first full face transplant recipient, identified only as Oscar, appeared in public for the first time at a press conference held at a Spanish hospital on Monday.

http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/26/full-face-transplant-patient-appears-in-public/

― James Mitchell, Monday, 26 July 2010 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

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