What are the ethical implications of digital photo manipulation?

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you better believe it (you better believe it), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

What was the point in doing that thing to the left side of her hair?

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

it's so that you'd think that she is probably keen.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

what

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Compressed hair = keenness?

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

leave it

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I wasn't responsible for that bit of hack work. I was attracted by the white/red flashing. And then I couldn't really tell if I liked her better touched up or not. But touched up, it's totally not the real product. It's a lie. A white lie perhaps, but, does anyone else feel slightly bad about this? It's done all the time. Every magazine you pick up.

you better believe it (you better believe it), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

OMG THIS IS HORRIBLE. THIS IS WORSE THAN THE HOLOCAUST. PLEASE LET'S ALL GET VERY VERY ANGRY ABOUT DIGITAL PHOTO MANIPULATION.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't feel bad about it. I do it all the time. Retouching, whether digital or done by hand has been around for almost as long as photographs themselves.

Although I think her hair is much better in the inretouched image, if the rest of the image had been shown in FHM untouched, it would've looked very amateurish and certainly wouldn't have impressed the demographic the magazine wished to target. You got to give the people what they want y'know?

What I object to is girls like Nikki clutching at fame so tightly that they'll try anything to remain in the spotlight. What happened to the freakin' strawberry kisses? She's all nasty now.

Kate / Productive Pedagog (papa november), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Besides, retouching photos is fun.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Exactly, it's like playing God.....sort of but not really.

Kate / Productive Pedagog (papa november), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

The only trouble comes when you think you want to start retouching your girlfriend.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

It's okay as long as she doesn't know right?

I got into trouble recently for erasing my brother's girlfriend's mole.

Kate / Productive Pedagog (papa november), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, I meant IRL. Which I fear could happen. I already pick up magazines and want to ctrl-f and search for what I'm looking for. Or think I can fast-forward commercials when I'm watching real time TV.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

what are the ethical implications of makeup.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

What are the ethical implications of makeup?

Dialectical Dave (Dialectical Dave), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I was rather disturbed that a friend who works for the Met Police as a photographer was being sent on a Photoshop course.

Bidfurd, Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19809-1566031,00.html

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 14 April 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

how about some motion blur too?

http://catomatic.com/etc/mov/%5Bbig%5D%20nikki%20webster%20animated.gif

"i'm alright! i'm alright!! don't retouch me, don't retouch me!"

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Jeez, you know, I click on this thread thinking "Oh, hmmm, did another news agency/magazine/paper get caught out creating questionable photo journalism? What an interesting topic" and instead am confronted with the SHOCKING NEWS that FHM et al edit off the cellulite of their vapid, barely attractive cheesecake. WTF!

But I guess I'll engage with the topic cos I do talk about it whenever I have recently seen an example of it that annoys me. I get irritated with the whole airbrushy/super makeup/chicken cutlets/fuzzy lens world when there's major inconsistency. Like my biggest bugaboo lately is the Victoria's Secret catalog, which seems to get worse with this by the month--if you're going to indulge in this kind of thing, by all means do it but be consistent, don't give the same model DDs and no freckles on one page and As and freckles on the next. Or when it's done inconsistently with celebrities, so that they don't have their proper attributes that I've come to know. The famous one being that SPIN cover of Trent Reznor where they fixed his nose for him, the most recent one I can think of being the most recent cover of Blender (? I think), where they've given J.Lo someone else's breasts.

Basically, I just wish airbrushers and stylists and other people who manipulate significantly the way a photo will come out as a final product in a fashion/entertainment/catalog mag would be more fucking consistent, it really doesn't seem hard to resist attaching Salma Hayek's bosoms to Jennifer Lopez.

Well, ok that IS hard to resist but someone in the line of approval should've said "Haha v. funny now fix it so she actually looks like herself."

"Herself" in that case being the Jennifer Lopez who looks absolutely nothing like the Jennifer Lopez who was on In Living Color and starred in Mi Vida Loca thanks to a constantly on call team of make up artists, hair stylists, personal trainers, and fashionistas to make her J.Lo, so I want to stress my objection to this isn't remotely an "ethical" one, because it's just a higher level of what celebrities and models do to themselves anyway.

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

And much, much cheaper.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)


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