Embracing the Inauthentic

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Somewhat related to the '70's Mexican food thread, which mainly seems to be about the Americanization of Mexican food, what other "inauthentic" things to do you enjoy or perhaps even think might be preferable to their "authentic" counterparts?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

What I saw of "authentic" Chinese food (in Hong Kong) looked pretty grody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Cinema nachos, but only within the walls of a cinema.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

"These recipes are an example of a few survivors from a once great clan. One indication of just how popular and widespread these spiced and sweetened pasta were, is indicated by the four recipes for ‘Tortelleti’ in Robert May’s ‘Accomplisht Cook’ (1660). These pasta were again stuffed with either veal, bone-marrow, cow udder, vegetables (such as spinach, beets or green peas) and a mixture of parmesan, curd cheese, currants, cloves, rosewater, cinnamon and nutmeg..."

At's a spicy meatball!

― andy --, Friday, 27 May 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

squid ink japanese pizza!!

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

All the frenchified arab food I've had was better than the 'authentic' versions, and that goes as much for Lebanese as for Maghrebin food, though the tagine I had in the Atlas Mtns. was pretty memorable.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Las Vegas. lock thread.

― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Porn over real sex.

― Huk-L, Friday, 27 May 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

liking someone else more than you like me.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.frenchculture.org/books/pix/baudrillardamerica180.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

liking baudrillard more than you like porn

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

baudrillard is a sort of porn, i find.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Fake Meat : S & D

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

easy mac.

romanticized ideals of far-off places in the sixteenth to nineteenth centuries (the caucasus, siberia, new mexico, etc.) are more fun than the real places.

― Maria (Maria), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I am coming to realize that authenticity holds very little truck with me. That whole "Southwestern US Mexican food" thread just comes off as food rockism to me. And I think food rockism might be even worse than rock rockism. FOOD EITHER TASTES GOOD OR IT DOESN'T. Who cares about anything else?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

I tend to agree, nick, but when encountering another culture's cuisine, I like to get a sense, at least, of what constitutes authentic to them (out of a spirit of politeness) before trying out variations which may be driven merely by commerce or diluted out of squemaishness.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

That whole "Southwestern US Mexican food" thread just comes off as food rockism to me

what do you mean? i'm fully admitting that southwestern mexican is all americanized.

― a collectivist romantic fling! (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

inauthentic american food is a nightmare: ever had a burger in england?

― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

i mean, i didn't start a thread about AUTHENTIC OAXACAN OMG WTF BURRITOS SUCK.

― a collectivist romantic fling! (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

If you eat enough of it, does it not make you full?

In high school, my stoner friend and I were eating Taco Time and we guessed that the Aztecs (who we decided had invented tacos) didn't eat their tacos with Mexi-Fries.
"But then, we're not exactly Aztecs, are we Huk?"

― Huk-L, Friday, 27 May 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

There are a number of other threads about this.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Aren't ALL other threads about this? Isn't this the quintessential dilemma of ILX?

― Huk-L, Friday, 27 May 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

often, as in mexican food, i like both the inauthentic AND the authentic! what's wrong with that?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I guess the parallel is in this minute regionalism, talking about the differences between the cuisines of these obscure areas of the southwest reminds me of discussions of the indie scenes of Oxnard or Athens or whatever, but most likely it's just personal insecurity of not knowing what anyone on that thread is talking about, so I'm resorting to oversimplified populism, which in itself is a parellel to the typical outsider response to the hoary "rockism" meme.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

slocki, encima el dinero

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I don't have a problem with the authentic, I have more of a problem with people who care too much about what is authentic. It's not "authentic" Mexican food unless an old lady grinds the corn for your tortilla with a mortar and pestle.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

And she's probably a poser too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

"I Like Food"

I like food, food tastes good!
I like food, food tastes good!
Juicy burgers, greasy fries,
Turkey legs and raw fish eyes
Teenage girls, with ketchup too!
Get out of my way, or I'll eat you
I like food, food tastes good!
I like food, food tastes good!
I'm going to turn dining
back into eating
I like food, food tastes good!
I like food, food tastes good!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

It's like, in 1997, I ran away to Banff and got there right in the middle of their annual Celebrity Ski Tournament, where I saw Bill Shatner beat Buzz Aldrin. Bill Shatner never went to space, but he's a better skier.

― Huk-L, Friday, 27 May 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

talking about the differences between the cuisines of these obscure areas of the southwest

sorry, in future i'll promise not to talk about such obscure subjects as "texas" and "california." ;-)

but seriously, the differences exist, so why not acknowledge them?

― a collectivist romantic fling! (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm just being snide to disguise my own ignorance.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

This thread needs to get together with this thread.

― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

GYROS

― ()ops (()()ps), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i'm definitely against gourmet rockism (foodism?) but there are def'ly great food obscurities & culinary b-sides out there to be discovered, damn a snobbish attitude.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 27 May 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

This is the thread that is completely unoriginal

― Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 29 May 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

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