― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
― N_Rq, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
I really hope this doesn't suck, Sideshow Beast is like maybe the most inspired bit of casting of all time.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― IT'S OVER. GO HOME, FOLKS!, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 6 June 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 6 June 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L, Monday, 6 June 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
Is Layer Cake any good? The pedigree (lock stock, snatch) is bad.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)
― kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)
I'm sorry, I said that wrong. I meant Michael Bay.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
I've seen only Rush Hour, but that was pretty good. No one's expecting X-Men 3 to be more than good popcorn entertainment with some allusions to racism/homophobia thrown in for good measure, right? Singer (who was an "intellectual" pick to direct the first two movies) certainly didn't manage to do more with the franchise, so why's everyone so disappointment with this Ratner dude?Having said that, I'd love to see Joel Schumacher direct this film. He's done some fine queer-themed flicks (anyone seen Flawless?), and it would be cool if he'd expand on the "they may look like us but are different"/"mutants coming out of the closet" themes hinted in X-Men 2.
-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...) (webmail), June 6th, 2005. (Tuomas) (later)
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How would you rate Xmen compared with Daredevil, Tuomas? -- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...) (webmail), June 6th, 2005. (afarrell) (later)
First of all, Tuomas, you might be one of the only folks in the world that dares pairs the word "Schumacher" with the word "fine" in terms of his filmic ouevre. Also, my kneejerk fanboy instinct when you conflate Rush Hour w/ either X-flick is to find you and spoon your eyes out, which I'll refrain from acting on.Maybe I'm too close to the source material to really be fair, but both X-flicks (especially the 2nd one) were exemplary popcorn flicks, in terms of bif-bang-powitude, and in terms of doing some of the things that popcorn flicks tend to not do (like, um, offer characters you give a crap about). The X-flicks ably established at least 8 or 9 specific personalities, and even gave small bit-players brief moments on-screen to do their thing. Credit to the screenwriters, for sure (and the source material), but a less-skilled director probably screws the farm animal trying to ably juggle all these folks.
Meanwhile, Rush Hour has two main protagonists that aren't anything more than Hollywood Cop Stereotypes running around doing Hollywood Cop Stereotype things for nearly two hours. Freakin' ICEMAN (a guy that's on screen for maybe 15 minutes total between both X-flicks) has more substance to his character than either of those Rush Hour dipwits. Maybe The Rat can step up when the material's more substantial - I haven't seen any Ratner flicks aside from either Rush Hour - but, knowing what little I know, I don't see that happening.
As for Mr. Joel - given his campy ensemble work on the Batman franchise, I'd rather be subjected to Battlefield Earth II than think about him coming within spitting distance of another funny book franchise.
-- David R. (quoteidio...) (webmail), June 6th, 2005. (popshots75`) (later)
I thought the protagonists of Rush Hour were sympathetic and nicely fleshed out, admittedly within the stereotypical confines of a buddy/action flick. Still, I don't think Rattner can influence the screenplay and the pre-established characters that much, and at least he can do the action bits well.Am I the only one who actually liked Batman Forever (haven't seen Batman & Robin)? Sure it was campy, but decidedly so. Batman doesn't always have to be dark and brooding - in my book there's room for a less serious interpretations of him. The whole idea of a multi-millionaire playboy dressing up in a tight bat costume to fight crime with the help of various gadgets is innately camp, no? Anyway, whatever you feel about his Batman films, you shouldn't judge Schumacher by them only. His careet is quite uneven, but he has made some good and interesting films.
-- Tuomas (tuomas.alh...) (webmail), June 7th, 2005. (Tuomas) (later)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)
Well, duh! It's still watchable entertainment, now.
i don't think the race/sexuality stuff is ephemeral to them at all.
In theory, maybe. At the end of the day, there's still the bashing of a man in a funny helmet to be done.
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)
(x-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― Leon hearts Crazy Frog (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― anders, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)
http://www.smh.com.au/text/ffximage/2005/03/20/jackman_narrowweb__200x359.jpg
― Leon hearts Crazy Frog (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)
― Hollywood Execs (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
this is like, asylumworthy
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
You seem bitter, sir.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)
(xp: family man! revenge of the sith don't got tea leoni in the shower yo! sorry but i said it!)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
by steak i mean, "interesting gay subtext!"
by sizzle i mean, "x-men in action doing their stuff!"
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)
Oh Dan, you hurt me. I would like the second Rush Hour more if it instead of showing cars mowing down corrugated shacks and hapless Cubans we saw cars mowing down humans, and Magneto hovering in the sky, cackling.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)
Well, duhhhhh.
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Hahaha) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Avoiding Work) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)
Interesting talk on future sequels. Clearly Wolverine is easy money (though careful on how they do it.) Talk about the Kids From X-Men getting a film (as they are cheap), and now Doug Liman talking about Emma Frost. Clearly the franchise is a mint, and a mint which Sony consistently underestimate too. Now may well be the point when they overestimate and blow the whole joint up.
Get interesting directors again though plz. Thx.
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)
Haha. Both movies have merged in my mind. I'll just call it Bad Hours, which comes close to describing what watching Bad Boys 2 was like.
(Do I want to get into the "did you not remember that the hapless Cubans were actually fronting/participating in a massively corrupt cocaine smuggling ring in your commendably faux-liberal determination to feel sorry for imaginary brown people?" thing or not?)
I don't give a damn where they were from (hell, my parents are Cuban), it just wasn't much fun; that's why it would have been a much better film had Will Smith been given some mutant power that didn't involve making wise cracks smugly. (And no liberal sensibilities were invoked since I ain't liberal!)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)
Er, yes it was!
― Dan (Best Onscreen Usage Of An H2) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)
Ha! This I will concede.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)
Well yeah.
― Dan (My Point Was More "I Like Stupid Action Films" Than Anything Else) Perry (D, Monday, 5 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (How Do I Shot Me) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (WTF) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
STARRING ICE CUBE
DIRECTED BY JOSEPH KHAN
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)
1) Nicholas Cage :(2) Nicholas Cage will be replaced by a CGI flame skeletor on a bike for 88% of the film :D
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (My Spirit Lives On In Our Youth) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Monday, 5 June 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (I'm Guessing No) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
OK. NO.But as you know anything I can do to get Edgar Wright or Simon (Chloe) Pegg into a thread I will, for the feeble reason that they might be down the pub tonight.
I feel small and worthless. A bit like Ant Man! (The Wasp better make the cut too).
Come on Ally, surely a film where Nicholas Cage's face burns off appeals to you?
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Courtney Gidts (ex machina), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (How Did I Miss This???) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)
"This was originally intended for a direct-to-video release, but later there was plans for a small release to theaters. However those plans were scrapped, and the movie's fate became unknown, until it was later announced as a Sci Fi Channel original movie for Spring 2005. The DVD and VHS became available in Summer 2005."
It was buried like a damn cat-turd is how you missed it.
― Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Monday, 5 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
i finally watched this, on tv, and it was bad. peace
― Hamburger Hitler (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)
Wow there was a Man-Thing movie? AND it had actors portraying Steve Gerber, Mike Ploog & Val Mayerick?
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHW1oIKUxI&feature=youtu.be&t=36s
― polyphonic, Monday, 15 April 2013 17:57 (twelve years ago)