Big Brother (UK 2005) - "I'm top dog, You're my missus, and who are YOU TWO going to kiss goodnight?" : thread 3

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As I say, Maxwell has turned into (or always was) Ray Winstone out of the film "SCUM" !!!

Time for a new thread.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

I didn't think it was possible to dislike anyone more than I hate Maxwell, but Craig has managed to knock him off the top spot! GET ONE BACKBONE! You bitched, you got caught [out there] so deal with it.
I hate the way he talks too. argh!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

craig is so funny though, a total child.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

Also, Sam to go. I don't think I've heard her speak apart from when she's in the diary room.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

And even there she doesn't so much speak as grunt monosyllabically, that syllable usually being "sex".

Trouble with letting all the housemates hear the crowd reactions last week is that Maxwell now knows he's the most popular and thus has leeway to say things like this.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Do people really like him though? I know people exactly like him irl, those beer boys about town who shop in Top Man & say "off the hook" to everything. My God what a twat.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

who shop in Top Man & say "off the hook" to everything

but it's the one place where it's applicable...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

his name is carlin, mark, belive it or not.
-- N_RQ (bl0cke...) (webmail), June 15th, 2005 8:42 AM. (link)

What, the character in "SCUM" ?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Max, Carlin? Hmmm....

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

but it's the one place where it's applicable...

It's not acceptable anyway Stevem, I believe Top Man workers say "off the peg"

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

yup, markello carlin.

N_Rq, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Max, Carlinish?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking more...
http://www.piggybankpage.co.uk/Photos/Thumbnails/t-a22-115-Wade.jpg

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

i'm waiting for max to break out the tshirt with 'AVE IT written on.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

haha!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

he's a total twat, but then again he reminds me of at least four or five people i know and quite like. being a dick isn't necessarily reason enough to dislike someone.

stelf)xxxxx, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it?

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I'd like Maxwell to die soon please. He's making this year near-unwatchable for me, for the first time ever :(

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm not following anywhere near as closely as I did last week with the bullying scenario but I may have some good gossip from workmate writing this year's BB book which will be collected tonight at club, if he's there. Also at work we discussed Derek's uncanny resemblance to fashion queen we know who is also totally trying to be West Indian stately homo. In fact we reckoned the guy actually knows Derek socially.

Also HELLO unfortunately Craig is nowhere near as stupid (despite mantits and NFN accent) as people think.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

i think maxwell is okay. good luck to him, i say.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh please let this work....

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/latest-pics/day18/d18_1000_anthonycanon_g.jpg

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Haha, that boy is so gay it hurts!!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

hear hear. he's actually made me laugh a few times. i still really shouldn't be watching this.

off-topic: suzy, can you do me a favour please and drop me an email at d@vestelf0x@yah00.co.uk (sub all obvious 0s and @s for os and as) please, i need a quick word. thanks in advance.

stelf)xxxxx, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

suzy, craig has NEVER READ A BOOK and is proud of this (probably untrue) fact. having said this i think he's reallyreallyreally stupid, so maybe he's only reallyreally stupid...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

I think he's only really stupid.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

Also HELLO unfortunately Craig is nowhere near as stupid (despite mantits and NFN accent) as people think.

He may not be stupid, but damn he is irritating. Having said that, being shocked when he was called "camp" can't have been the brightest thing evah! Kamal, is a queen, but Craig is [glasto thread]Camp Sausage[/glasto thread] if ever I saw it.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

People like Craig don't learn to be manipulative from books. He attaches to someone more likely to be in the firing line than him, which is hardly rocket science but seems to be working a treat.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

I am surprised he wasn't in more nominations.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

My point exactly - other more irritating housemates are ahead of him in the queue. He merely switched from egging on one week's nominees to egging on the next week's nominees.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

He strikes me as someone who has lived in a very small world until now, is v.naive, is an appalling judge of character, makes bad alliances and has no idea about a successful strategy for winning at all. However, I find him v.entertaining to watch, so I hope suzy is right and he stays in till the end.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

/:

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

^^Of course Alba, he's from Norwich isn't he?!
I know what you're saying Suzy, but I am surprised none the less. Sam is an idiot, although not necessarily irritating.

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.peoples.ru/art/music/pop/dido/dido_1.jpg

the subject of a distressing dido.

I read that as dildo at first :-/

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Although he wasn't conscious for any part of the oral ordeal, Anthony's pals were more than happy to fill him in the next morning.

Pink, it's worse: Craig's from Cromer. NFN = Normal For Norfolk: doctors working in hospitals up there got in trouble back in the day for using the acronym on patients' charts.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

"distressing dido"?????

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I understand that she's distresing, but I don't see what this has to do with having a cock in your mouth.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Pink, it's worse: Craig's from Cromer. NFN = Normal For Norfolk: doctors working in hospitals up there got in trouble back in the day for using the acronym on patients' charts.

Haha, classic!

X-post

apparently stuffing a cock in Dido's mouth is the only way to get her to shut up!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I like Dido.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

My mad aunt - so mad, there was a TV documentary about her - is from Cromer.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

it's what all the kids are syaing lex. 'she gave me a dido'.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

the norfolk accent is worst in the country. it is impossible to sound intelligent if you have one. old boys there actually manage to speak entire sentences without consonants. when we moved there from liverpool when i was about 10, i couldn't believe what i was hearing.

stelf)xxxx, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Lesley appears on Digital Spy, to face her mockers: http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?threadid=233216

AdrianB (AdrianB), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Haha! I love it when BB contestants come out of the house & have a go at people for having opinions about them. I think it's about time that BB stopped being friendly with people in the diary room.

Any number of BB contestants: Big bruthaa, I just can't face it anymore, I didn't realise that people would be so nasty to me.
BB Get ONE clue!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

I suspect that is not Lesley. Surely she'd have better things to do?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Lesley appeared to be cleverer than Craig - that chat with Sam was a masterpiece of manipulation - but he's still there, she's not. So perhaps the Norfolk Lad has something about him after all.

That said, considering he came onto Big Brother to "SAY WHAT HIS SALON NEEDED TO SAY ABOUT HAIRDRESSING, AND GET HIS VIEWS ON MULLETS ACROSS TO THE WROLD" he hasn't been very fortcoming on the subject.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, she could be checking out the boards she might have looked at previous years. She seems to like a good old fashioned "you're a loser" "no, you're a loser" argument rather than a series of reasoned and thought out responses to opposing points of view type argument.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Craig and Lesleh tag-teamed Sam in that chat. Lesleh held her hand but Craig called her a slapper and appeared to get away with it.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

I liked what Craig said last night, "I just came in here to destress." Er dude, you should have just gone to Tenerife of something!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

destress or distress?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

DEstress

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

(It was an "OR" list rather than an "AND" one. fwiw, I'm not bothered about that, except for the inclusive Foxhunting etal..)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

That scene last night where Derek bawls out Science for talking over people then goes on to talk over him for what seemed like an hour, with Science talking right back over him, leading to a white noise wall of incomprehensible babble. I've never seen anything like it on TV before, it was like watching a stag attack a thousand-year old oak tree or Batman vs Hulk.

I don't think Maxwell will twig about this task. Firstly, he's not suspicious or bright enough and secondly, he doesn't have any reason to suspect anything is amiss. Some people over at Digitalspy are adamant that he has already realised but is keeping quiet so they don't fail. This is so obviously incorrect it almost angers me.

What with the cardboard boxes and this current worker role, I'd say the tasks this year are the best yet.

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Well, what with seeing himself as "top dog", he'll only decide that he "won the task for everyone" which is what a top dog would do.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

> This is so obviously incorrect it almost angers me.

i disagree. what i said above about it (ie he could tell by the way people were answering the 'how many did you do?' questions) was echoed almost exactly by the woman on bblb yesterday. and last night's 'how come your hands are so clean?' to saskia(?) was too pointed to be a casual remark. i think he may have twigged something's going on, just not what.

i like the way bb is ramping up the pressure on the other housemates, making it increasingly difficult to hide their complicity (giving them 5 minutes to clear everything away for instance). my guess is that the guilt thumbscrews are next to be tightened.

derek vs science was odd. derek kept repeating the same thing again and again, science just went off on tangents (his donkey tangent with roberto was surreal). neither wanted to stop first.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

i think he may have twigged something's going on, just not what.

story of his life, i imagine.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/day27/day27_1000_lieanother_1.jpg
Stop press: Chris Lynam's in the house.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Batman vs Hulk

Batman won btw.

BARMS, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

how?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

i decided in the pub last Friday that Batman was rubbish because he doesn't have special powers, just loads of money (tho Teh Baran sagely claimed that this is the most special power of all).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Anthony has found a laminate in the garden with the rules for the non-Maxwell workers on it. It'd be interesting if BB interpreted it as not being able to rule out Maxwell hadn't seen it, and therefore ruled a fail.

I was surprised last night Saskia's nominations chat was so heavily edited in the highlights show. She went into a bit of depth about why she didn't like Derek because he told her she only hung about with Maxwell/Anthony in an attempt to win them over with her womanly charms. She took this to mean Derek said that because he was sexist and hated women. Bit of a leap, I thought.

Why did Maxwell and Saskia have their dinner outside?

Apparently last night Maxwell referred to Makosi as a Boon - as in contraction of baboon.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm betting he didn't mean it this way.

boon
adj.

1. Convivial; jolly: a boon companion to all.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

perhaps he was commenting on her extraordinary resemblance to Michael Elphick?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

Urban dictionary says:

4. Boon
a person or object bearing similarities to the baboon

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/housemates/makosi_hp.jpg
http://fp.martinunderwood.f9.co.uk/Boon/pictures/series1.jpg

separated at birth or what?


Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Now I have that awful Jim Diamond song in my head.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Urban Dictionary also says:

17. boon
a virgin. 1)A person who has not experienced sexual intercourse.
2) A chaste or unmarried woman; a maiden. 3) one who does squirts hairy babies in sheds on the east side of isreal.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

"and last night's 'how come your hands are so clean?' to saskia(?) was too pointed to be a casual remark."

Actually yeah I forgot about that. I think you're right in that he is suspicious about something but isn't sure what, but I'll be very surprised if he does work out the whole thing. He's just too doot-de-doot-de-doo, happy jack, "I get me head dahn and get on with it" to work it out - however, if it were Kemal or Derek doing the work then it'd be a different story.

Barms and Stevem, irregular poster Stone Monkey tells me that if Batman and Superman locked horns then Batman would smear the walls with Supey within a matter of minutes. I know nothing about comic guys but I'll go with that.

I'm going off Saskia and Maxwell a bit, the smugness and self-assured comments that they'll be in the final three is grating a bit. I can't wait to see Craig's big butch PE teacher macho-man dad's reaction to Craig's coming out, BBLB need to hunt him down now!

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

She took this to mean Derek said that because he was sexist and hated women. Bit of a leap, I thought.

eh? have you been watching the show? Derek quite obviously does hate women.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

BATMAN MUST GO

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

I think Derek hates everybody, not just women.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

I'd start thread three but there's nowt happened to make a latch for it.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night that Maxwell was my window cleaner. I asked what it's like in the house as I think he was cleaning my windows as part of a task and he went all shy, whispering to me not to talk about it since nobody knew he was out in public.

Very strange. I haven't even seen Big Brother since last Thursday's highlights show.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Could you give it a title that involves screwing with greasy fists?

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

i really dislike the title of this thread fwiw. sorry mark.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Stevem: Hahahahaha!

He popped shitloads of knockout gas then used the Bat weak-spot discovering-cannonshell-kick-technique to wind the fucking Hulk, causing him to inhale the gas and pass out (gas, at least, does put Hulkie-poos down).

Seriously, gotta love the 70s!

BARMS, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

HULK TO WIN!!!11!!1!HES FIT!!!1!11!!ELEVEN!!1!

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

I really like the title of this thread, though I don't really understand it.

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

You have to have seen the film "scum" basically.

Anyroad, Maxwell is pleased to have "won" the task. (First one to have been won yet?)
http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=626

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was Scum but I had a secret hope that Maxwell had stood up and announced that, fists clenched, wielding a pool-ball-sock.

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

(the "Who are You Two" was his comment on Derek and Roberto getting nommed last week... I'm glad it's you two! If one of you go, "....", and then Sam went.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Breaking News: Craig is out.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7950.html

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

ahem mumble upthread link mumble mutter.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

buhaha "do you love Anthony?"

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Craig may have been in the closet but the door was fucking seethrough anyway.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

HAHA!

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

What with the cardboard boxes and this current worker role, I'd say the tasks this year are the best yet.

It's a shame they're so wasted on this bunch. I'd have been glued to the telly last year if Michelle had been the Worker housemate and then discovered that Chicken Stu had been whooping it up without telling her.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

It's a shame they're so wasted on this bunch.

that's a good point. mind you: endemol made the choice to fill the house with halfwits, so if they're happy to waste genius-level ideas on the slack-jawed likes of maxwell, vanessa and craig then they can only blame themselves.

and, that said, the derek/roberto/anthony box-off was joyous. didn't dermot say on BBLB how the producers had only expected people to last a few hours at most?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Well, it was very similar to a "stand on this log" task on "Survivor" which lasted three days or something...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

science is unbelievable

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

they all are. they're fucking incredible.

as for derek ... i can't help noticing he's still there, despite yesterday announcing his intention to quit, and spunking on about "honesty and integrity". well: unless he's quit and nobody, not even digital spy, considers it worthy of mention.

there's something profoundly depressing about BB6. mrs fiendish has already given up watching it; the only thing that keeps me going is hoping for more ingenious tasks.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

and, er, being really sad. that too, of course.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

I reckon Endemol have tipped Derek the wink that he'll be leaving Friday anyway.

BB6 is depressing. No loveable housemates at all.

Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, last time I looked the betting was evens between Derek and Roberto for this weeks eviction. That's free money (again).

I'm wondering if Roberto is a good outside bet to win? Never mind his antipathy between him and everyone else, would the female/gay block vote go his way?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 June 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why, but this makes me laugh.

http://www.bobpitch.com/anon/flotskybruce_mein.jpg

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

I had to switch off from Sciences 'rapping' last night. Was that what it was? dreadful

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, last night I was almost for Science decking Maxwell over GlassofwineGate. Although "Plaque attack! Poo!" has been one of the funniest put-downs of the whole series, particularly when confirmed by Saskia despite her 'not wanting to say so'.

Also, the least convincing "snog" EVAH! Her mouth wasn't even in contact with his face, which is presumably why she had her hand up in front.

Vanessa has been punished for not being Worker #1 by not being allowed to eat any of the luxury food, and will instead receive three square meals to be eaten alone in the diary room. If she eats any food in the house she'll automatically be up for eviction next week. She and Makosi have hatched a plan, however, and are going to say she's starving herself because of Saskia's "greedy bastard" comments (shown on last night's highlights show).

I must say, the hoarding of food by individuals this year is bizarre, and apparently the first time it's ever happened on BB of any nationality.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

I wanted Maxwell to smack Science, but I sort of missed the wider context of the spat. To latecomers though, or me at least, it seemed as if Science was being out of order, and he really annoyed my with his attitude. Mind you I feared any act of violence from Max would've tipped Saskia over the edge and she'd have found him utterly irresistable from that point onwards, if not already.

Unpleasant weirdos the lot of 'em...

'cept Craig and Anthony in the diary room was great tho - Craig actually seemed likeable for a moment, particularly with his 'dirty bitch' comment to BB.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

tell me the full story of Max and Science row

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

Big Brother (UK 2005) - "They should be taken out and hung for the cold-blooded murder of the English tongue" : thread 4

(What is it with the "dirty bitch" thing? The best moment of CelebLuvIsl had Jayne and Liz doing "Dirty Dancing" with "YDB" comments inbetween)

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I'll answer "Science and Maxwell" on the other thread.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 23 June 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)


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