Hoffman Estates, IL

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Near/a suburb of Chicago. I have a phone interview later with a good company located there. Is Hoffman Estates the suburban hell I suspect it to be? Information on the Chicago area in general would be much appreciated.

robertw, Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

There are too many Chicago threads already.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Sid Hoffman or Sid Frenchman?

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Until the 1950s, Schaumburg Township remained a rural farming community. The Schaumburg Township population was 1,080 in 1950, and Elgin was the major economic center.

In 1952, Township residents voted to establish Community Consolidated School District 54 and to become part of the Palatine High School District 211, since there was no high school. In January of 1954, the new Schaumburg School opened with an enrollment of 87 and a faculty of three.

1954 proved to be the landmark in Township history. A local farmer sold his 160-acre farm to Sam and Jack Hoffman, owners of the Father and Son Construction Company, for a subdivision in Cook County. The land, now known as Parcel A, was located east of Roselle Road between Golf and Higgins Roads. The first homeowners began to move into the new subdivision in late 1955. The homes were built on half-acre lots and sold for $14,500. Down payments were as little as $700, and the interest rate was 4-1/2%. On September 19, 1959, residents voted to incorporate as the Village of Hoffman Estates. The charter was issued on September 23, 1959. The population at the time was about 8,000, and the incorporated area was just under three square miles.

Beginning in 1961, the first land north of the tollway was annexed to the Village of Hoffman Estates. Some 2,000 acres were annexed by 1962, including the areas that are now Winston Knolls, Westbury and the Paul Douglas Forest Preserve. The annexations more than doubled the incorporated land area.

Various small office buildings were built by 1980, followed by major complexes such as Northwest Corporate Centre, Barrington Pointe, Greenspoint, and Siemens Gammasonics. Ameritech’s 1.2 million square foot regional headquarters opened in 1991. The Sears, Roebuck and Co. moved into a 1.9 million square foot headquarters in 1992. The Prairie Stone Business Park has some 800 acres slated for office, research and high-tech industrial uses. Hoffman Estates welcomed two new developments in 1995, Quest International and Indramat.

A volunteer fire department was formed in December, 1956, with each homeowner contributing $25 toward the purchase of a small pumper. The homeowners also began a small public library in the original Village Hall located on Illinois Boulevard. In the 1960s and 1970s, the Village continued to grow rapidly, with the construction of both single- family homes and multi-family developments. The population nearly tripled to 22,000 in 1970, grew to 37,000 in 1980 and the 1990 census put the total population at 46,363 with over 16,000 households.

Public facilities such as schools, fire stations and library branches were built during this period to accommodate the area's rapid growth. A Village Hall and Police complex opened on Gannon Drive in 1972 and was the first municipal building in Illinois to be constructed under the guidelines for handicapped accessibility. The new U.S. Post Office, also on Gannon Drive, opened in the fall of 1988. A new Public Works Center opened in early 1990. Finally, the Village Hall was relocated to a new facility in 1992.

The late 1980s and early 1990s saw a shift from a primarily residential community with the development of numerous commercial projects. Hoffman Estates Medical Center and the Village's first auto dealership, Woodfield Acura, opened in late 1986; the latter was soon followed by Saturn, Nissan, Lexus and Land Rover. The Village's future growth is developing along the western boundary with some 2,000 acres slated for office, research, high-tech, industrial, and residential uses.

Today, the Village's estimated population tops out at over 50,000, with a total incorporated land area of about 19 square miles. School District 54, which began with one school in 1952, is now the largest elementary school district in the State of Illinois (outside of the City of Chicago). Other school districts serving Hoffman Estates residents include Districts 46, 15, 211, U-46 and 300. Hoffman Estates High School was named as one of the outstanding high schools in the state in 1987 and the Village of Hoffman Estates has won six Governor's Home Town Awards for its innovative programs.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

NB: I've never actually been there. I've never had occasion.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

There are too many Chicago threads already.

I knew someone was going to say this haha.

robertw, Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

What sort of "information" on the Chicago area do you want? Where are you now?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Well if I took a job located in Hoffman Estates what would my options be regarding finding a place to live? What is the area like around there? How accessible is Chicago proper from there?

robertw, Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I live in Austin, TX now which is a great city but I'm looking for a change of scene and climate.

robertw, Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

It's been moons since I've been through there, but you could do worse. But if you like office parks, welcome home.

You're not practically near Chicago proper .. I mean, the commute would suck. This is only a guess, but if you went directly South to look for a place to live, you might do alright...

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty far out in the suburbs, I think. 35 miles from downtown Chicago. I have no idea about housing outside of Chicago proper. In general, the northwest suburbs tend to be more white and affluent than the southern/western suburbs. I grew up in the southwest burbs, so I really haven't spent much time up there at all. I imagine there being lots of office parks. (haha xpost)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

All that said, go for a visit. Talk to a real estate agent while you're there. There's a great neighbohood near every place in the world.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Hoffman Estates isn't terrible, I guess. But it's definitely a "suburb", though not as much as Schaumburg, which is the suburb to end all suburbs. I don't think I've ever seen an actual residence in Schaumburg!

If you work in Hoffman Estates, I would advise living a little closer to the city to the east. Or if you'd prefer, living a little to the north or west, in Dundee or Algonquin (which are really nice smaller suburbs) or Lake Zurich/Buffalo Grove. If you go east towards Chicago, Niles or Skokie are pretty good places. Relatively close to the city.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

This thread makes me realize how I am irrationally biased against suburbia.

Robertw: Do you want to have easy access to Chicago? Is this important to you?

Also, it's perhaps worth checking to see how close your office would be to a Metra station, because that could open up some possibilities.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Dear Bitches...

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Hoffman Estates...yes, that is pretty stereotypically suburban if you ask me. I think the traffic to and from Chicago is probably pretty bad. It doesn't look like any Metra lines go near there - if they did, you could live in the city and commute.

Otherwise, you'd be sitting in traffic a lot. I think there may be some 'quieter' areas further north, and more urban-like (but expensive) suburbs to the east, but you're right around a bunch of expressways.

I'm not a north suburbanite, just someone who has had to drive through there on occasion - maybe someone else has a better idea of what it's like. I've never had a positive image of that NW corridor as a place to live, because it's so commercial.

x-post: yeah, Gear is OTM about 'habitable' suburbs in that area.

fake tan (dymaxia), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

i am pretty sure that 90 goes right through hoffman estates, so it would be easy to get to chicago. my sister used to live there, its your normal suburb.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Is Hoffman Estates the suburban hell I suspect it to be?

yes. exurban hell. car dealerships, office parks, ready-built mansions ready to fall over in a stiff breeze.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

there is considerable diversity within chicago's suburbs so i don't know what would be "stereotypically suburban." but i would think h.e. is more ghastly than any stereotype.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

if you must work there, i would recommend living in skokie or evanston and commuting.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm guessing that 90 is a bit of a hassle in rush hour, regardless of which direction you're headed, because you're dealing with airport traffic, among other things. At least that's my experience. It's not so bad at night, though - again, this is strictly in my experience, I am NOT a north suburbanite.

I guess everything depends on how often you want to go into the city (nightlife, etc.)

x-post, Amateurist - yeah. Even Park Ridge isn't that bad, but beyond that it gets kinda crappy. But like some people said, there might be some more 'bucolic' suburbs north of there.

fake tan (dymaxia), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

That whole Evanston/Skokie/Winnetka area is pretty solid. It's surprisingly easy to get to the Schaumburg/H.E. area from there, I've found, and even easier to get to the city.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Wilmette, rather. But Winnetka is okay too.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

about half the time I'd go into Chicago from my parents' home I'd sneak in via the Evanston route.

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

xx-post - suburbs north of Hoffman Estates, that is.

I love Skokie btw. Not sure what the housing situation is like around there. I've done Golf Road all the way from Skokie to thereabouts, it's pretty jammed (although more pleasant than the expressway).

fake tan (dymaxia), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Evanston... housing costs might kill your gas budget.

Some of the small towns around H.E. may not be overdeveloped yet, or may have had a town center at one time, as opposed to being a corn field full of houses, strip malls and offices.

If you're going to consider Skokie or Evanston, consider Rogers Park or west of it, which is still Chicago & Chicago taxes. My brother used to work out around the area you're looking and lived in Rogers Park .. not a horrible commute, although that was 15 years ago.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

skokie is ugly but rents/mortgages are reasonable (unlike in most of evanston) and there are a lot of nice things--a nice library, nice schools, nice parks. a lot of cultural diversity actually. i love skokie.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

west rogers park is ok but farther west than that gets awfully dull, and you're farther from the highway than if you were in skokie.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the advice everyone. My scheduled interview didn't happen so all this may be redundant....

robertw, Thursday, 30 June 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I had a gig working at a game company in Hoffman Estates a few years back. At the time I lived in the East village/Wicker Park area, a couple of blocks off the Milwaukee blue line stop.

The commute sucked! It would routinely take a couple of hours during rush hour. I had a stick and on more than one occasion I never got out of second gear the entire 30 some miles on 90. Bleh! The only marginally redeemable part of the trip is you pass a large Medieval Times castle on the way there.

pat morita, Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

the secret is Golf Road

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

at a game company in Hoffman Estates

Haha, I momentarily forgot that my band played at a video game launch party for this company a few months ago.

So, actually, scotch what I said about Metra. Because we took the Metra to the Schaumburg or Arlington Heights station (I forget which) and then still had to be picked up by someone once we got there.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

what, are there a lot of game dev houses out there?

kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the commute would totally suck heading from anywhere in Chicago except maybe Edison Park or somewheres.

Besides Skokie, there is also Park Ridge and ... Niles, which has its very own Leaning Tower of Pisa replica!

fake tan (dymaxia), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Niles..."my kind of town"

mikef (mfleming), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

i just saw a piece about Hoffman Estates on channel 20 last night, part of a Geography telecourse. All about "edge" cities, and how businesses are moving out of downtowns (Sears moved from Sears Tower to a H.E. complex awhile back) and creating a "pepperoni pizza" model of urban structure.

Like jaymc, I've never been there, or most any of the suburbs around there. Never had a reason. I can't imagin their Best Buys and Walmarts and Bennigan'seses being any different than the ones here.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I grew up in Hoffman Estates!
Todd from US Maple, John 'King Cat' Porcellino and Steve 'Plastic Crimewave' Krakow and I all went to HEHS, though none of us were in the same grad class.
It was a nice place to grow up in the 80s, but I wouldn't really want to live there now.
Whoever suggested Buffalo Grove as a nicer town, close enough to work and Chicago proper is OTM. It's probably a 1/2 hr. to 45 minutes away, depending on the time of day.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a safe bet that the closer you can live to the city, the better you'll feel. I'm with Amateurist in finding Skokie a pretty decent place to live and hang out, and depending on how you feel about commuting you can get even closer than that: I have plenty of friends who live right up in Chicago proper and drive out to Hoffman Estates every morning. Get yourself a little west and north and convenient to the highway, and the commute -- while probably never "fun" -- will at least be fairly suburban-"normal."

Not to lay down The Fright or anything but this is the cover of photographer Bob Thall's The New American Village, a book of photos exploring, umm, the particular look and feel of the weird American edge city -- as represented by kinda the segment of Chicago suburbs we're talking about:

http://www.americanplaces.org/CAPgallery/images/cover.jpg

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

One advantage of doing your stuff out in the suburban direction is that you totally get to amaze your city friends by pointing out awesome things to do that they'd never previously considered might be nearby. During my last years in Chicago I wound up doing exciting things like going to a supermassive mega-arcade and supermassive water-park, all via people who drove out in those directions every day and noticed such things.

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 30 June 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Hoffman Estates really isn't an edge city...Schaumberg really is. It's just that the southern part of HE kind of bleeds into Schaumberg.

mikef (mfleming), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

haha that telecourse piece I saw kept misspelling it as "Schaumberg" too.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

it listed Schaumburg, Oak Brook, and Addison as edge cities. Addison??

oops (Oops), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

oh wow, my chicago suburbia cred is blown. oh well.

I don't even know where Addison is?

mikef (mfleming), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

i've been there once for a job interview at what turned out to be a shady/scam type place. it's southeast of schaumburg and northeast of naperville, i think.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

afaik, it doesn't stand out from any other suburb in the area. isn't a hub of business or anything. i can only assume its chamber of commerce paid off the producers.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 30 June 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Steve 'Plastic Crimewave' Krakow

This is the hipster fop who works at Reckless, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Addison has a pretty sizeable Hispanic population, compared to surrounding suburbs, IIRC.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

"fop"?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Have you seen him?!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nihilistrecords.net/pcs/images/bio_07.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i recognize that dude. i'm usually too busy staring at the clerk with the saddle shoes.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

He works at the Wicker Park one.

http://www.dragcity.com/press/pimages/photos/dc207sk1.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes he does.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't he have Derreck Smalls-esque walrus 'stache these days?
I still haven't figured out which female Reckless employee amateurist has the thing for.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

i used to know her name, because she was in a class of mine, and then i forgot it.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

i don't think she works there anymore. at least i haven't seen her there lately.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

ok, now i remember her name.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

We'd better change the subject before I say something that will get me in trouble.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

um

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

http://newtrecords.co.uk/acatalog/dc151cd.gif

don't mess with the crimewave

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd be willing to bet on which WP Reckless employee Amateurist has in mind. (It's either her or Kim-the-drummer.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

(Haha or Chr!s Conn3ley has taken a feminine pronoun.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

her name begins with a "t"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I believe we are on the same page.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't think Kim-the-drummer is Am's type.

http://jnocook.net/students/kim.ambriz/iosa.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

How do all know their names? You don't...talk to the record store clerks, do you?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

me: because she was in a class of mine

nabisco: worked there

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

jaymc: yeah, that idiot probably does talk to record store clerks

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, J, but she was kind of the standard Wicker Park Reckless crush, up until the person I think we're discussing came along. Before that I think the universal Reckless crush was this girl Lizzie at the Broadway store, who was kinda Winona-Ryder-pixie in the best way (i.e. the way indie shoppers were most likely to swoon for).

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

oh i know kim-the-drummer. she is very cute.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

i think the first week i was on ilx, nabisco or myself discovered kim's long-lost homepage or something. good times.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Here's how:

Steve Krak0w -- Reader article about him a year or two ago, photo shoot in Venus magazine around the same time

Kim-the-drummer -- I saw her band Rabbit Rabbit open for somebody at the Empty Bottle a while back. I heard someone say she worked at Reckless. I don't think I've ever actually seen her at the store, and I didn't actually know her name until just now, but I figured that's who N. meant.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Yeah, that's where I found that photo, Am. The page hasn't been updated in five years.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I want to know that one sort of slight-looking African-American dude who works at the WP Reckless. I swear that he used to work at this tiny used record store in Darien, IL, when I was in high school. I have a distinct memory of him playing Parliament-Funkadelic one time while I was looking for, like, Smiths CDs or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that page is kinda something. I remember seeing her play with Bees are Black and being ridiculously impressed by her ability to play drums while chewing gum at a completely different tempo. I wouldn't have thought that was even humanly possible.

One of my favorite Reckless Employees of all time: Chr!s J0hnson, who used to be (and may still half-be) in K-Rad, and helped throw/DJ some of those Empty Bottle Sunday-night dance parties -- possibly the nicest record-store person I've ever encountered.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

this is bumming me out.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Jay, that's gotta be Chr!s! He's from Joliet, I think, so he's been around Chicagoland-in-general for a long time.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh possibly, then! He is super-nice.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm curious who jaymc thinks is my type! i don't know my type, except i tend to date short girls, for whatever reason.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't know! I think I figured she was too typically indie-looking or something for you. Your type = Julie Delpy, Barbara Stanwyck?

I tend to date short girls, too, fwiw.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 July 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)


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