1. Apparently, Hassidic Jews do not allow ANY pictoral representations of females at all (gee, is it the 21st Century already?). So when an ad for a doctor's office came in with a picture of a doctor examining an elderly woman, the editor had to nix it. The solution? My girlfriend was to photoshop the head of an old MAN onto the woman's body.
2. An ad for some kind of religious services featured very faint, small hebrew print in the background that was supposed to look like torah writings. Apparently, somewhere in that very small, faint print, was the name of God. The office received over 20 outraged phone calls.
3. A full back-page ad for a mattress store: The picture is a good-looking young guy laying on a mattress. The text is supposed to be the yiddish phrase for "Go To Sleep," which is "Geyschluffen." Instead, the text ends up written as "Gay Schulffen."
Dozens of outraged phone calls.
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
favorite NYC subway sight -- young hasidics on the platform singing along to the 50 cent songs on their ipods!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
― Candicissima (candicissima), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
does not stick to the original qn
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
I can't help but feel like the Hassidm in NYC proper are a little more interesting/cultured/worldly than elsewhere though. The ones in this small NY state town sound a little provincial to me.
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― g e o f f (gcannon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
This sort of crap happens all the time because mofos don't STICK TO THE PROPER TRANSLITERATIONS. It bothers me when people say "you can spell Yiddish anyway you want -- just write it the way it sounds". WTF? Maybee eyel rite Inglish thuh wey it sowndz too!
("gey shloffn" is the proper spelling)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
god willing, it'll fall even quicker.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
I would hope so, but I talked to a kid in Milwaukee who had just gotten back from studying in Manhattan for a couple of years and when I started talking about my NYC experiences, it sounded like he hadn't really been outside of the yeshiva (or perhaps he just couldn't admit to it in front of his parents).
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
wtf does that mean
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― what else is new, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
a "shul bus" maybe?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
(ps. I AM JEWISH)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is Sick of Being The Best At Everything (ModJ), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
Hahah Slocki do you live in my street! :) I have: a Rabbincal college 3 doors up in my street, several synagogues, and various Jewish schools about. I love it, I really do. I especially love Fridays when I walk to the shops and there are Hasid (or maybe Lubavicht) guys on the footpath with a card table with teffilim on them, handing them out. Whats that about, I'm curious! I mean I know what they are, but why do they stand around handing them out like christians do pamphlets?
Its interesting because unlike xianity where they always try and convert anyone, I suppose you cant do that in Jewish faith, so I wonder what the "sales pitch" is all about.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
Hassidic = more specific term referring to the folk that wear black coats, black hats, long curly sideburns, fringed clothing etc.
For example, there's such a thing as "modern orthodox" -- people who might wear Yarmulkahs, not drive on sabbath, keep strictly kosher, but don't necessarily live as isolated from the rest of the world, wear modern clothing.
It's tricky though, and the lines get blurred all the time. Some of the girls at my gf's office wear fashionable clothing, but just don't show much skin, for example.
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
and trayce, what they're trying to do (most likely) is get non-observant jews to follow the laws.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― carbon (carbon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
the "sales pitch" is convincing people like me (ie, less crazy Jews) that I'm betraying my cultural traditions by shaking hands with unmarried women, etc. Seriously, the proseletyzing is so horribly sanctimonious and condescending, its part of why I have such a visceral negative reaction.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
Right, that's what I was getting at. My mum pointed to some Hassidim when I was a kid and said "They don't consider us real jews, to them we're no better than if we went to church". !!!
― I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
Quit being such a fucking dick. Why do you care random person who has never posted here before?
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)
Some of the people posting today are trolling, Thomas as the sheet thing was addressed earlier in the thread. I think.
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
When I was in college I used to get asked if I was Jewish by Orthodox Jews that came onto campus. My Jewish friends told me that if they said yes, they got hassled. The notion is that the people doing this concerned about the way that people who profess their faith practice it, not people of different faiths.
― Laura H. (laurah), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Mckenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 8 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 8 October 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas McKenzie, Saturday, 8 October 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)
― Laurel, Saturday, 8 October 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Sunday, 9 October 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 9 October 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)
a briss in brisk...
― Jordan LeMonde, Sunday, 9 October 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)
And I have some half-remembered thing in a far corner of my brain suggesting that it's a gender thing, that if Hasidic men see a woman improperly attired or otherwise err, what's the equivalent of treyf for social conduct? not-frum? anyway, that they'll ignore a woman because to appear to notice or otherwise be drawn into something not-frum would be contrary to the law. I know women don't have the same responsibilities in worship/observance that men do, don't know if that has anything to do with public social behavior.
I'm not asking you or anyone to draw any conclusions, per se, just wondering if there's a known basis for the weirdness.
― Laurel, Sunday, 9 October 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
― merrisa jacoby, Sunday, 9 October 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
― merrisa_ jacoby, Sunday, 9 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)
― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 9 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Sunday, 9 October 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 9 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Sunday, 9 October 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 9 October 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/21/2176/1024/hasidic.jpg
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 9 October 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)
― Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― Nosson, Monday, 17 October 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)
Can someone deindex this thread before it gets ugly?
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)
Anyway. To underline my previous point - until I moved to melbourne, I cant say I had ever met or seen an orthodox Jewish person such as a Hasid... I had no idea of any of the sub-faiths until only a few years ago. Want to call me ignorant? Please don't. I merely grew up in a city that honest to goodness has probbaly a .001% Jewish population. It is something I never knew much about til I moved to a very Hasidic neighbourhood in another city. And I find it really interesting, actually.
I'm not religious though, so of course I dont agree with any of it in that sense. But eh.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 October 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)
― scrimhaw1837 (son_of_scrimshaw), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:19 (twenty years ago)
http://www.heebmagazine.com/images/magazine/issue9.jpg
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)
re Cheskies (omg black-and-white cookies and poppyseed croissants1)My friend Kyla used to work there (maybe Charlotte replaced her - who knows?). Not Jewish. Although there were varying degrees of weirdness from the clientele, she had only the warmest things to say about Mr Cheskie. Among the Hasids I've been exposed to, I find it very interest the extreme variance of attitudes toward gentiles and non-frum Jews. Normal people are weird, rude, kind, etc., but among the ultraorthodox community there's (what appears to me as) exaggerated versions of these behaviours. Ultraambivalent is much more striking than just-plain-ambivalent, ditto for generosity and rudeness and awkwardness. So I notice(d) it a lot.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)
Recently, one of our neighbors said that he didn't want to rent to 2 black dudes even though they passed a credit check, etc.
― Williamsburger Noise Explosion (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
i knew it was true!
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)
― JoyonNarrowBridge, Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
but shvartzers make LOUSY landlords!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
hahahahahahahaha
― jw (ex machina), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)
Today I got approached by one of those Chabad sukkot guys. I was kind of rushing to class and really not trying to be a dick or anything, but he was persistent, and I kept saying, "Sorry, I'm running late," and the guy goes, "But don't you want to just hold it? Just hold it!"
― rammer jammer jan hammer (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:34 (fifteen years ago)