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I am sick, indefinitely, and have been reading voraciously, which is probably the only good side of it all. I want to buy more Patrick McCabe but I also would like some good suggestions of stuff you feel I might like, fiction or not fiction, but preferably stuff which is available relatively easily.

Would appreciate this alot, I intend to go to the shops today.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

1982, Janine - Alasdair Gray
Them - Jon Ronson
1000 Jokes for Kids of All Ages - Michael Kilgarriff

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

I find William Boyd to be good sick reading. Try 'Any Human Heart'. The latest le Carre, 'Absolute Friends' is fantastic.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

anything by jonathan ames if you want a good laugh

dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

I have read Them by Jon Ronson, many times over, I absolutely love it.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh, well read it again, then.

Have you ever read The Selfish Gene?

Or The Selfish Giant?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

neither

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

are those trick recommendations?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy is long enough to hold you for any length of disease. If you finish those three and are still sick, check into the hospital.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

No, they are both serious recommendations, though I only thought of the Oscar Wilde because of the Selfish thing. But it's a lovely story. Everyone should read the Selfish Gene though. You will never get its central idea out of your head, even if you have already heard a bastardised version of it through the media or the pub.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

If you like the following, then pick up Anthropology by Dan Rhodes.

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My girlfriend is so pretty that I can't get over it. Every week I celebrate the alignment of her features by parading a giant photograph of her lovely face around the town centre. I've written the words "pretty face" on the picture's border, and drawn an arrow to direct people's attention toward it. It's not bragging, because it's her that's the pretty one, not me. I'm going to parade every week for as long as she lets me be her boyfriend, and probably even longer. Nothing's going to put me off, not even the shouts of "Had her" or "Been there."


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My girlfriend was lost in space, and I was at my wits' end. Eventually her spaceship was located and brought down to Earth. I was euphoric. She was full of stories of how frightened she was when her circuit died, and how incredible it was to be in orbit. It was wonderful to hear, but she has been back for some time now and I wish she would change the subject. This morning she told me again how the Earth was about the size of a tennis ball, and the moon seemed much bigger and brighter than it ever had before.


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Running Water left me. She told me she was very fond of me, but that she needed some time to herself. Six weeks later I saw her outside the local church, wearing her very best ceremonial head-dress and clinging to the arm of an unusually handsome man. I rushed through the confetti, and glared at her. "So how did you enjoy all that time to yourself?" I hissed.

"It was great, thanks," she answered, smiling for the cameras, and looking even prettier than I remembered. "I had two cups of coffee and a croissant, and then I read a magazine."


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I'm hopelessly in love with a bland girl. She has never said or done anything interesting. I spend hours trying to work out why I'm so deeply attached to her. I can't find the answer. Her hair is boring, her face is boring and her body is boring. Every time I come home from work to find her slumped on the sofa, surrounded by used yogurt cups, my heart explodes and I feel giddy, like I'm walking on air. I take her lifeless hand, kiss her pale cheek and say, "They broke the mould when they made you." She rarely responds.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Also, for a challenge to the way you look at things, try John Gray's Straw Dogs.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

ps. get well soon.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

'Diceman' by Luke Rineheart
excellent read for me at the moment, dark and humourous.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

If you haven't dipped into the Murakami well, now could be the time. Also, HARRY POTTER>

stewart downes (sdownes), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

You should read The Counterfeiters by Andre Gide, if you can be bothered. Or The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien if you haven't already. Or The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut, unless you have not read Slaughterhouse 5, in which case you should read that.

It is hard to recommend non-fiction without really knowing what you are interested in. I haven't met anyone who didn't like The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat by Oliver Sacks.

You can get all these off Amazon second hand for under £3, but I don't know about bookshops.

Get well soon!

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime, by Mark Haddon, is great.

That Bill Bryson book about science, A Brief History of Almost Everything, is really ggod too. He seems particularly annoyed by scientists that discover things first, but can't write in a non-boring manner to save their lives, so their discovery ends up being named after something else.

On no account pick up The Da Vinci Code, even under cover of "just a bit of fun".

Are you not worried, by this stage, of people 100 years in the future being diagnosed with Romo Syndrome?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I'd prefer if that didn't happen! I just want to feel normal again more than anything!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

what's wrong with the Da Vinci Code?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

It isn't any good. It's miswritten on every level, it turns a bunch of interesting conspiracy theories into a quest to get a family talking again, and half of the flashbacks that happen everytime anything remotely interesting happens are to his previous book that sold fuck all.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

What do you think the secret of its appeal is?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Improve your health, good Mr. Ronan.

I was there when Andrew F. confessed his purchase of Da Vinci Code to me and expounded on its horrors. His sorrow made the bright sky of London gloomy.

Try Eco's Foucault's Pendulum instead. It will take a while and that is the point.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

That's the point? Why not just read the phonebook then?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

That's not an idea for one of your stupid records, by the way.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Riddley Walker by Russell Hoban
A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole
The Professor Challenger stories by Arthur Conan Doyle
all off centre enough to be interesting when you're ill I reckon. Get well soon

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

That's not an idea for one of your stupid records, by the way.

Tsk, so jealous. You can always read the phone book yourself, you know.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

christopher brookmyre is fun very easy to read, list of titles and extracts here http://www.brookmyre.co.uk/books.htm

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again by David Foster Wallace
The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

All those people who read and like the Da Vinci Code are wrong then? Ha ha. Some bloke on the internet says so.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, didn't ILB cover the whole "is the Da Vinci Code actually any good or not?" argument in great depth already?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

ILB spend some time attempting to figure out the secret of it's appeal on Just Finished Reading- The Da Vinci Code . The fact that they're quality conspiracies may have something to do with it, as all his other books have been complete rubbish, whereas TDVC is hard to put down. Also possibly people like the idea that the Catholic Church is going to get it in the nads (they don't).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Isn't "hard to put down" a sign that something is a good book?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Like I said on the other thread, it's simultaneously very readable and completely unreadable. Everything technical is wrong with it, but I didn't really put it aside for long. There was one section where I considered throwing it out the window, but I was on an airplane, So I decided better not. I don't consider my time with it well spent.

David Baddiel considers it of a par with Dickens (possibly on the same 'reasoning' as MikeyG) and seems to think it will be taught in school in 100 years time. Which might be right, but over my dead body. Oh, right..

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

So it's hard to put down, but not hard to throw out of a window. Unless you're in a pressurised cabin. I'm glad we've cleared that up.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

what's wrong with the Da Vinci Code?

I'm currently reading The Historian (about dracula) which is being compared to the Da Vinci Code (but well written and better researched).

Andrew, it's TRASH, you can't take the DVC seriously! :-)

A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole

I'm probably the only person who disliked this book.

nathalie sans denouement (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Did you get a diagnosis, Ronan? Speedy recovery wishes anyway.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Nathalie, I dumped "Confederacy of Dunces" after 50 pages, no regrets.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Yay. I threw it in a corner after 6 pages. I just couldn't find any humour in it.

nathalie sans denouement (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

You can't give up on a book after 6 pages!

OK, you can.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Alba's long-standing obsession:

--

Is Mike Hanle y the living incarnation of Ignatius J Reilly?

If so, who is his Myrna Minkoff? Ally or Emma?

-- Nick (nickdastoo...), August 9th, 2001.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

non-fiction:
francis spufford, "the child that books built"
v. woolf, "a room of one's own"
alasdair gray, "the book of prefaces"

fiction:
x. de maistre, "a voyage across my room"

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Rene Daumal - Mount Analogue
Blaise Cendrars - Dan Yack

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I loved A Confederacy of Dunces!

also:
the quick and the dead by joy williams
chilly scenes of winter by ann beattie
homeland by sam lipsyte

gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I just finished reading Kafka on the Shore a couple of days ago, that was pretty good.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I loved A Confederacy of Dunces!

Yeah yeah yeah.Rub it in that I have zero taste. ;-)

nathalie sans denouement (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I was also a bit lukewarm on A Confederacy of Dunces (read it all the way through though).

I was just going to suggest "Home Land" by Sam Lipsyte, which i've recommended to everyone for the last 5 months or so.

Also very, very good is Tom Bissell's "God Lives in St Petersburg".

Jimmy_tango, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

What do you think the secret of its (DVC) appeal is?

For Joe Public, easily digestible conspiracy theories that you feel clever for for "getting", plus it moves along at a comforting, movie-like pace - it's very easy to picture the images and characters. And that's it.

As someone once said of Jeffrey Archer novels, they're books for people who don't read books. Is that such a bad thing?

Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

(Ugh, apologies for "Joe Public" reference - *slaps wrist*)

Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I was actually meaning to write up a Brown Wedge post on the various books I read over vacation, as I caught up on some old fiction paperbacks of mine I had never gotten around to reading. Some good stuff, some eh okay stuff, I'll try and see what I recall reading here in a bit.

I'm still otherwise avoiding fiction in favor of nonfiction these days, though -- most of the time I feel like I should be concentrating on my own rather than trying to be obsessively au courant. Bad enough with music as it is!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

people who don´t read books are such a bad thing, maybe?

"The selfish gene" is scarily accurate about everyday life, or at least, that´s how it made me feel when reading it.

I am currently engaged with "War and Peace": as thick as the yellow pages! And with as many names listed in it at least!

olenska (olenska), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

It's depressing to think of how little time I've had to read lately, I need to make a resolution to set aside a bit of time for it.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

If you like Patrick McCabe, John Banville is kind of his upper class alter ego. The Man Who Was Thursday by G.K. Chesterton is weirdly relevant to modern politics. Evelyn Waugh is usually a nasty laugh riot. Great Jones Street by Don DeLillo is the best book about the Death of Rock and Roll evah.

Zazas Zazas Nasatanada Katzenellenbogen by the Sea (noodle vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Penelope, no diagnosis I'm afraid! presume just viral but now many pundits diverse and varied in qualifications have suggested I have the follow on to a virus or something.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm always surprised when I find out that well-known children's authors wrote rather adult books too, like the mention of Russell "Bread and Jam for Frances" Hoban upthread.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

anything by Yasunari Kawabata is what I recommend.

Confederacy is great

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Hoban's written a whole bunch of books for adults, still knocking them at a fair rate too, God bless him. Would definitely recommend at least Riddley Walker, Kleinzeit, Mr Rinyo-Clacton's Offer and Pilgerman.

x-post

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

'Guns, Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond. As I understand, it is total bullshit as far as science goes but it is very well-written and enjoyable

not gabrielle drake, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

! No, it's good science too (As I understand it).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Diamond's okay but for me the most readable science book if you're interested in natural history is 'The Song of The Dodo' by David Quammen. Another good one of a similar environmental bent is Mark Hertsgaard's 'Earth Odyssey'. Keep meaning to read his later book 'The Eagle's Shadow: Why America Fascinates and Infuriates the World'. Anyone read that yet?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

You know, Ronan, if you're not well, this could be the perfect time to start your Patrick O'Brian reading.

I heartily, and that's HEARTILY recommend Mary Renault's Alexandriad - Fire from the Heavens, The Persian Boy, and Funeral Games - they are all brilliant.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah, read a book by a woman so you don't turn into a misogynist like ally!

haven't you been to the bookshop yet? or even better, the library?

dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

That's Fire from Heaven, not Fire from the Heavens. And yes, read some books by chicks.

Actually, if you're not feeling very well and you want something engrossing to read, Barbara Kingsolver's The Poisonwood Bible is a real treat. I read it over a day and a half on holidays once and it was great.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I really enjoyed some bits of "The Poisonwood Bible" but found some bits of it a bit too "didactic". However, it is impressive that you just read it in about 24hrs...

olenska (olenska), Thursday, 11 August 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

Rene Daumal - Mount Analogue

I love that book.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 11 August 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

thanks for all the suggestions folks! just printing this out now!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Gide's 'the immoralist' is a good book and small too.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 11 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

I've just finished Claire Tomalin's life of Samuel Pepys, and it's quite good.

Damn, too late.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

OK, if we're done being gay:

David Berman's "Actual Air". It'll change the way you think about everything.

Hunter S Thompson's "The Rum Diary". Its romantic with no actual romance included.

Elizabeth Wurtzel's "More, Now, Again. A Memoir of Addiction". Ritalin snorting in Florida, cocaine scoring in NYC and rehab rehab rehab. This is a laugh riot, smart and cute as can be. The only female author I can stand to read.

Also, any biography of a decent serial killer (gacy, dahmer etc) is gold.

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Thursday, 11 August 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm having a flashback to being 14.

Zazas Zazas Nasatanada Katzenellenbogen by the Sea (noodle vague), Friday, 12 August 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

ditto with the evelyn waugh, loser.

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Friday, 12 August 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

Haha--'Cause there's nothing less "gay" than look-at-my-depraved-addiction drama queens.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 12 August 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't find alot of the stuff recommended, but I did only get to go to a fairly small bookshop. I got...so far

John Banville-Frames (which is 3 books of his in one volume)
Don DeLillo-Cosmopolis (my friend who works in the shop recommended it)

I also got a book about the Simpsons I read a review of a long time ago, Planet Simpson, it was 6 euro and may be crap but I took a gamble.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Are you still sick, Ronan?

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah pretty much the same. My mum is going to talk to the doctor today just to make sure I've been tested for everything, I'm pretty sure I have, and to ask his advice, probably just "yeah take vitamins, rest up, you have a virus".

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Poor you. Keep plugging away at getting better.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

thanks alot. It's fucking hard not to get pissed off and almost depressed at times, I've never been sick for so long. I've tried to work whenever I feel even 30 percent well enough just to keep myself sane. And I DJed last week despite being totally fucked just because I knew I would enjoy it all the same (I did, though not carrying my records home after!) But yeah I'm sure in a month's time at worst the whole thing will be in the past.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

i bet it was scotland got you ill
tsk tsk

dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I was ill before Scotland! Scotland didn't cure me though, damn it!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

ps: amazon delivers!

dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

If you're looking for a 'vacation' read, something that will go fast but is still intelligent, I recommend The Historian by Kostova. It's a kind of ridiculous vampire-hunt around Eastern Europe, but it's just smart enough to keep me reading.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

...not comparing your current situation to a vacation Ronan, just using that term as a type of book...

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

When I was laid up for a week two years ago I read The DaVinci Code inbetween sickness treatments and it was perfect...

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I've heard that The Historian is nearly as smart as TDVC.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Get well soon Ronan. Hope you enjoy the Banville.

I Ain't No Addict, Whoever Heard of a Junkie as Old as Me? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

gah hope you're OK again soon, ronan.

was nice to see you again, of course!

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

yeah, v. sorry to hear this is still going on.

hope it gets sorted out, ASAP!

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

I talked to my doctor last night and he said he's going to do some more blood tests and look at my file again. It's odd; he suggested glandular fever and I was like "didn't you guys check for that like as the first thing that was wrong with me?" but apparently they may not have. That said I don't know why my breathing would be weird with GF, but my glands are a bit swollen and I did have it before which increases the likelihood.

At this stage I'd settle for that, even if it is a really horrible thing to have, at least I'd know that's what was wrong.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Glandular fever. I feel your pain. I was hospitalised with it when I was a kid, and it was no picnic. It would seem to fit your symptoms though.

No snogging for you!

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Lunar Park by Bret Easton Ellis

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

can someone recommend a good book about the CIA? pref autobiographical (i've got the new adam curtis thing on the brain)

also a good readable book about therapy for mental illness, specifically ECT - the hows and whys of the way it works

NI, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

It's not strictly about the CIA but it's the only book I've read that had anything to do with the organization:

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In the Time of Tyrants: Panama 1968-1990
by Koster and Sanchez.

Came to it because of Koster's novels.

bamcquern, Thursday, 30 July 2009 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

i just picked up a book called "My Father The Spy: An Investigative memoir" that looks great, although I have not read it. by a guy named John Richardson. the guy's dad was a CIA spy, and when his dad was dying in 1998(?), the son researched exactly what his dad did by looking through documents, interviewing officials, etc.

derrrick, Thursday, 30 July 2009 05:33 (sixteen years ago)

legacy of ashes?

Lamp, Thursday, 30 July 2009 05:38 (sixteen years ago)


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