why do people pull the race card or cite racism for no reason?

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eg - this thread here:
chingford, essex - C or D?
someone is insisting that chingford in london, an area where i used to work as an estate agent, is racist. it boggles my mind that people continue to use race as an excuse/explanation for everything in life that goes wrong, or rather, say racism is the reason for certain things when in fact, it often isnt. its all too easy to say something is due to racism when it might in fact more likely be down to other factors.

― andrewloogham, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

because it's fun.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

oh shut up steve m. i forgot that the idea of racism is a joke on ILX unless its in neon letters and someone is being hung from a tree.
-- londoner (londone...), February 22nd, 2006.

^^ cosign 100%

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

For the same reason that people pull the class card or cite classism "for no reason".

― Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

c'mon people get your tuppence in before Momus and Nabisco wake up.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

OK, Chingford itself could never be racist, but many of its residents are white-flighters from the East End who moved from their original neighbourhoods because they felt encroached upon in the expansion of the Bangladeshi population after 1971. Also, right around that time council housing went onto a need-based allocation instead of families putting down their kids' names as in the past, so councils could not allocate to them if other applicants were even needier. They do still bear a bit of a grudge and complain how they don't like going back to the East End.

I just read this new book by Kate Gavron and Michael Young about race, class and the East End and it was really good.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Have they got any Bangladeshi people in Eastenders yet?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps it is because thinking clearly about the nature of the world and society, and your place in them, is a difficult proposition, subject to frequent misunderstandings, rationalizations and a host of other mental contaminants that tend to create countless disagreements over what is true and why.

― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

xpost No, but they haven't got any YBAs either, nor Turks considering it's based on Albion Square E8 by Ridley Road.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

ybas are a race?

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

no they just all look like aliens

Need a few more Poles, Lithuanians and Russians too then really. (xpost)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Are 'you people' still using cards for this? How barbarically 20th Century of you.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Ali Ozcabs was Turkish though wasn't he? Reppin' da 80s. Presumably Eastenders still operates on the basis as most of their viewers are British-born Caucasian, most of the people in it should be too.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

in the future, we will all look the same.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

this wasn't the reason why that post was funny.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't funny, even tho you laughed.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

it was funny, to me.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

in the future, we will all look like klingons.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)

This is what happens if you type 'lol'. From now on, if you do it again, put in brackets at the end of your post a detailed explanation of why you are laughing.

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rsthree.com/orly/orly_2.jpg

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

lol

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

LOL!!!

(It's a speaking goat)

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

(goats are funny)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:38 (twenty years ago)

you don't need to post xpost

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:39 (twenty years ago)

you don't need to post you don't need to post xpost

yet you still did

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Andrew, no one on that thread used racism as an "excuse" for anything that "goes wrong." Nobody said it was the "cause" of anything. All that happened was that someone said a place was "full of racists and neo-fascists." That's just kind of an assessment. And "full of" is a pretty vague term, which seems to have been used here to mean "annoyingly many," or something.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

like ilx!

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.base58.com/ilx/srsly.jpg

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)

(because it's fun)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

lol ('like ilx' works on so many levels!)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

like ilx!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

it's an easy way to bully people and makes you look better than them, basically.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

sorta like pretending racism doesnt exist

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

ts: pretending racism doesn't exist vs pretending everyone but you is racist

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:57 (twenty years ago)

often I disagree with trife but then I see how people who disagree with him sound and I figure trife's gotta be right

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:10 (twenty years ago)

who thinks everyone but them is racist?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:26 (twenty years ago)

someone's gotta start selling The Race Card (TM)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:31 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)

who pretends racism doesn't exist?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 23 February 2006 05:11 (twenty years ago)

I think getting bent out of shape any time racism gets mentioned pretty much amounts to pretending it doesn't exist.

― horsehoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 23 February 2006 06:55 (twenty years ago)

On that fingerprint card, somebody's doodled in the box at the very top marked "leave this space blank".

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:52 (twenty years ago)

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