lying on cvs (uk)

I don't think this sentence works, if you can be proved to have forged your CV you can be fired immediately.

What are the best (most advantageous/safest/easiest) things to lie about on your CV?

Previous salary.

I've never written a CV in my life. So technically I have never lied on my cv.

Some qualified person who genuinely deserves a position will be passed over based on your lies?

I don't know the answers.

his g/f isn't all that evil, the reason he hasn't told her is not because she is mean. it's because she's all stressed by exams and doesn't want to upset her further.

and **takes breath** nabisco, the type of job we're on about is general office drone stuff for the very bottomest rung of local govt - it's not CEO of OXFAM or anything people will have spent dozens of hundreds of thousands of $ training up for. my chum doesn't have any office experience so would find it enormously difficult to get a job without a few fibs. i'm 99% sure that once in the job he would pick it up quite easily. (ignoring this though, what's to say that the person who is qualified for the job won't be some cruel the kit!type beast who kicks dogs and scoffs at the misfortunes of others? surely my lovable well-meaning but clumsy friend deserves employment more than them?)

but i get your point, lying to get things is a bit bad. but there are shades of badness and i think preventing my buddy and his g/f from being evicted helps negate some of the naughtiness.

ok. i can sense this whole thread being derailed now. but please. put aside issues of morality and sneery mocking and help if you can. is cv-lying really a criminal offence with a 5yr sentence? has anyone ever been convicted of this? (i shall post back in a few days/weeks to give a postscript.)

Ghee whiz, that thinking will surely get him a job and thus food on the table. I don't know, I wouldn't do it, but I could understand someone lying.

Some qualified person who genuinely deserves a position will be passed over based on your lies?

Who says he isn't qualified? If not, he'll quickly lose the job thereby opening a position for the qualified person who lost the job to him.

I mean, seriously, I'm not trying to be a giant frowny moralist about this -- I totally understand the impulse, and I don't think it's the end of the world or anything. But don't even try to defend it as innocent -- don't even start. There's a whole lot of classism and entitlement involved in thinking that it's okay for a (presumably) middle-class person to lie in order to get a correspondingly middle-class office job, as if it's his birthright. It's not. And I kind of hope that if goes so far as to invent a university degree for himself, he still gets passed over in favor of some guy who stepped off the cashier at McDonalds and made up a Ph.D.

That's true, making sure you look after yourself is always a good justification for fucking other people over. JUST ASK THATCHER! etc etc.

I think the last time I thought about this one was on the thread here where some guy was helping his friend lie on his resume to get an office job. The notion seemed to be that he was a middle-class person and so of course he deserved an office job, since that's just what middle-class people do -- and presumably some guy mopping up in a fast-food joint shouldn't lie to get that same office job.
defend the indefensible: use of the term "sense of entitlement"

ok your notion is all wrong. my buddy is on the second-but one bottom rung of society. running the gamut of shitty jobs, struggling to pay the rent every month, living in a shitty area of a real shitty town. i was helping him lie because i want him to do better than washing pots in some scummy pub. keep in mind that if he didn't pass the initial tests with temping agencies he wouldn't be taken on the books so any employer is only being 'fucked with' in theory, in reality he's capable of doing the job. and where did this notion that he's middle class come from anyway? i sure am, he sure ain't.

ANYWAY the outcome was that my buddy needed a job quicksmart and now he's working in those vile Cash For Stolen Goods store that pepper the UK. you know, the ones where junkies bring in stolen kids bikes for £££? so everyone's in their right&proper position, no employer got 'fucked with' (nabisco, know this: a whole lot of people earning below the average wage don't give one flying fuck about their employer) and heroin addicts have yet another person to ply wares to, huzzzzzzzzah!!

making sure you look after yourself is always a good justification for fucking other people over

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..get all crumpled up?

but surely that's lying

nabisco, know this: a whole lot of people earning below the average wage don't give one flying fuck about their employer

But Rinky, know this: I wasn't talking about employers, I was talking about other applicants for the jobs in question.

i know people do it and it seems to be a socially acceptable act but its not one thats justified.

4) We need to say that my friend has worked in an office job for over a year in order to cut the mustard with the temping agencies. Shall I make up a company, say Vanderlay Industries (haaaaaaa haaaa ha.. h..), and put myself down as a reference? Now, is it wise to put my home address for the referee down, or am I asking for a criminal record?

It's obviously too late for any advice now, but
4)If the reference is supposed to be from a previous employer, they would expect it to be written on official paper.
3)I have had several jobs where I've had to bring in the original copy of my degree for them to photocopy and keep on file.
2)Yes, let's, that will be fun.
1)You can lie on whatever you want.

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