Advice needed ASAP!!! Picking girls by asking them to model for you C/D

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I need to know what you guys think quickly! I'm thinking of asking this this girl in my class out, but I'm too shy to ask directly. So I was thinking of asking her to be a live model for me sometime in the near future and take her out to lunch as payment. She aready knows I'm an (okay)artist. I need to know if this creepy or not and if this would work. I need as many replies by tomorrow so I can make up my mind weather i should about this was or not. QTs of ILX: how would you respond? Help Me Please!

Thankz

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

good lord this is creepier than asking her out to coffee. how hard can that be?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

creep

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

yes, creepy.

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

on the other hand, you have more of a chance of seeing her naked if you ask her to model than you do if you just ask her out to coffee, so I guess it depends on what you really want to accomplish

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

YOU ARE A TROLL

also this is way fucking creepy

― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

"So I used a lot of technical words, like brush"

― Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I'm imagining Lurker trying to "play it cool" during the nude posing and it is making me crack up. Yes it's totally creepy but how often does a person get a chance to actually BE George Costanza?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

i mean obviously this fellow has to report back on results if he goes through with the modeling request

― nervous (cochere), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was just talking to my gf about guys that claim to be photographers or something... yeah, it's bad man. I was at a restaurant last week when this dude approached a leggy german-looking art student and left his card on her table, saying he was looking for "talent" for his production company. She didn't even glance at the card and he went back to pick it up after she left the restaurant.

― andy --, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

If you got to art school this is OK.*

* I never took advantage of this fact, but I know plenty of ugly dudes who did this and cleaned up, so... pick what side of the fence you're on with that.

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

Let me clarify, i was going to ask the girl to model with her clothes on! Does this make it less creepy?

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005MKXB.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― phil d. (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

It all depends what art form we're talking about here. Is she going to have to stand there while you design a building or write a novel about her?

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

just ask her out. this is dumb.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think the point is, why is the deceit necessary?

xpost

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

I knew an Australian dude who used to work in London. He and his buddies went to Poland for the weekend for the sole purpose of getting laid. Apparently Poland is CHOCKABLOCK with beautiful women, which means two things: (1) dudes want to have sex with them and (2) they want to be models.

These guys prepped for the trip by making fake business cards. Their strategy was NOT to talk up the girls with modeling talk, but instead, to let it come up in casual conversation.

Polish lady: what do you do, ____?
Dude: Oh, nothing big. I'm a talent agent at Blank Blank Blank (gives busines card: Blank Blank Blank: London Milan Sydney)
Polish lady: (pulls out headshots)
Dude: We are totally having sex.

It worked!

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Just ask her to lunch! If you have enough nerve to ask her to pose for you, you should have enough to ask her for a friendly meal.

― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, ask her to a gallery opening... It'd give you a change to hang out, there might be wine, and if she's not into it you still have the "art student" connection that makes it less intimidating that asking her on a real date. It's a good, less creepy compromise.

― andy --, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

Today I would like the world to get a BACKBONE ya rly

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

srsly?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

[pic of dead owl]
srsly

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

actually, stay celibate the rest of your life.

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, geez Louise! I was about to make a big boo-boo, it seems! Although I would like more opinions before I weigh my options, it looks like I'll just have to wrap this baby in a paper bag and sit on it.

So how do girls like to be asked out? I made this card that says "I think you're 'plane' awesome. Would you like hang out? Yes [] No []"

Is that cute? Girls still like cute, don't they? Or is that too silly for a guy in his mid-20 to do?

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

U+K: is the picture of an airplane or a level plane? (Bonus points if there's no picture at all.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's a pic of Battle Zone's virtual battleground, with strange pyramids and faraway mountains.

― andy --, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

oh, the card is folded up like a paper airplane! Forgot that little detail!

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Incidentally, I think the "yes" or "no" box options are the proprietary method of communication for fifth graders.)

― andy --, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

U sr r a pu c

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

but Andy, "yes/no" boxes are supposed to be cute or twee or ironic or something...

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

but Andy, "yes/no" boxes are supposed to be cute or twee or ironic or something...

Jimmy is that supposed to be some kinda code?

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think the cute [yes]/[no] thing could work if you actually knew her better, and she knew you were doing it in deliberately self-conscious manner, but I wouldn't risk it on a total stranger, who might not grasp these intentions. (But then again, what do I know.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

i would run a country mile.

― estela (estela), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

If you have enough nerve to ask her to pose for you, you should have enough to ask her for a friendly meal.

Not necessarily! I have often fumbled asking a girl out and come up with some ridiculous pretext for seeing her again (nothing quite as calculated as this, but still). It can be very hard to say "I want to see you again just because I want to see you again". It is ultimately the best course of action, though.

― chap who would dare to be slightly tipsy on the internet (chap), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ralph Wiggum to thread.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

this is actually a great compatibility test.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

you should ask her if your friend should buy a wallaby. I hear that works.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Suddenly I feel like I'm living in some weird petri dish.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

I WANT TO C U AGAIN TO PUT IT* IN YOU!

*MY PENSI

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

so no girls are going to chip in?

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

hi, i'm a girl. it's creepy.

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

killy OTM

― Mama Roux, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Mama Roux OTM

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

Eric OTM

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps you'd like to model for some anthropometries I'm planning?

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.uni-hamburg.de/Wiss/FB/09/KunstgeS/arch/images/Federn.jpg

― amateurist0, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I made this card that says "I think you're 'plane' awesome. Would you like hang out? Yes [] No []"

I think this would work really well on someone who liked the movie "Me and You and Everyone We Know"

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

i say this as someone who was a non-asker-outer for a looong time. take a deep breath, pick your moment, look her in the eye, and say "hey, would you like to go get a drink or a cup of coffee or something with me?" there's no tricking or goofing your way into love.

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Except in the made-for-television version. And it's pretty crappy.

― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

I made this card that says "I think you're 'plane' awesome. Would you like hang out? Yes [] No []"

I think this would work really well on someone who liked the movie "Me and You and Everyone We Know"

HAHA -- this is all i needed to hear to know that i will never, ever watch that movie

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Asking a girl to be yr art model = creepy ++
Handing someone business card as a date tactic = wanker ++

Just ask her out ffs. Do it by email if you can't handle asking her to her face. If she says no, she isnt interested. Deal with it.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

Errr... I've done this. But with the genders reversed, it's usually ended up with the boy in question asking "can I take my clothes off?" and then trying to have sex with me. So, erm... success?

― I'm Not Afraid Of Singularities (kate), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yes[x ] No[ ]

― estela (estela), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's necessarily creepy and I would probably say yes.

― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, if someone flew a paper airplane at me to ask me out, I'd probably say yes. But only if it flew well - no rubbish plane engineers need apply. :-)

― I'm Not Afraid Of Singularities (kate), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

This cam to me during a dream last night:

Alternatively I could ask her if she would mind if I could do her portriat right there and then. And then subtly shower her with compliments. ("Have you ever modeled? Your pretty eyes are fun to draw! etc, etc...)

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

That is a fantastic idea, I'm sure she will love it.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

It's the sort of thing you could 'ask' in a social environment i.e. Pub, etc.

Not in the office/watercooler moment, staff canteen, etc.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

This is somewhat creepy but I know a photographer guy who had... brief relations... with several models he photographed. I think it was they who hired him though, not him trolling for women.

If she's in your class, you already have some context for talking to her. Just find some opportunity to make conversation sometime, I guess.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Just ask her out! "I'm going for a coffee now, would you like to come too?"

― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Handing someone business card as a date tactic = wanker ++

Like a wanker, but object-oriented!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I love nicole.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

-- Lurker McLurkerstein (2sh...), March 8th, 2006.

are you like a will ferrell character or something?

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

i'm with killy on this. I'm a girl & I think it's creepy.

Also, the fact that the majority of people on here are telling you to not do it & you're 'waiting around for more opinions' or whatever it was you said tells me that you are just looking for permission. so, do what you like. i think it's creepy, but maybe this woman is into creepy.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

kelsey otm.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

please do it.

and report back.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'll also add that I like to be asked out. Notes would turn me off, unless we had something established already. I'd prefer asking out to be in person without much fluff. Just ask a girl out already.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

incredibly lame and yes, possibly creepy.

On the upside, dudes have probably been using this approach (and scoring) since the Paleolithic period.

― Will (will), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

depends on what you're hoping to get out of it. if you're looking for a one-night stand with a cute girl from class, go for the 'model' line.

but it *is* pretty creepy, so if you're actually hoping she'll like you and want to talk to you and stuff, then ask her for a coffee after class. while you're there, if you still need a schtick, do a flattering sketch of her on a napkin. 'you should be a model' lines really only work on people that aren't attractive enough to have heard it a million times, IMO. so you can say 'you have pretty eyes' and leave it at that.

THEN, once you've hung out on your own, you can pass a note with the yes/no options, because it'll be obvious that you have a sense of humor and are well adjusted.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I made this card that says "I think you're 'plane' awesome. Would you like hang out? Yes [] No []"

I think this would work really well on someone who liked the movie "Me and You and Everyone We Know"

i liked that movie and um, no.

this actually happened to me once, in a jokey way with a guy i was already friends with. he wrote me a note that said "do you like me?" with the possible responses being yes, no, maybe, and whatever. i chose "whatever". i already hung out with him, so he knew i liked him as a friend. we both played it off as a joke and it was fine. if i hadn't already known him well, i would have thought him a freak.

i modeled (nude, even) for a photographer friend once and nothing at all happened. he was noncreepy about all of it, which is why i modelled for him in the first place.

just ask the girl out, forget stupid notes or false pretexts.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

so you can say 'you have pretty eyes' and leave it at that.

ah, you've been reading 'the game'.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Would you like to come and see my etchings?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

are you trying to get me on the yes-ladder?

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

A boy I picked up in a bar once pulled the whole "I'd love to sketch you..." line. But then he drank too much and passed out! And his (married) mate ended up sitting all night, actually sketching me, claiming "wow, this is so much cheaper than hiring a nude model!"

I wasn't sure whether to be flattered or offended.

Sometimes I really miss living in Hoxton... things like that used to happen on a fairly regular basis.

― I'm Not Afraid Of Singularities (kate), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you for your responses. They have been most enlightening. I guess I have no other choice but to ask her out directly. I just thought that whole "model" thing played into my strengths as one of those "wacky artist types." But I guess that only works in films, right?
(I have no idea how real people interact.)

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, get one (1) vertebra of backbone and just ask her out. Plenty of time to be a wacky artist type after you're already acquainted.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

yes, in real life, "wacky artist type" usually comes across as "twat".

― permanent revolution (cis), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

ask her if she wants to go to a REN FAIRE with you and insist on calling her "milady"

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Have you considered a pet?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Have you considered a pet?
-- Forksclovetofu (forksclovetof...), March 8th, 2006."

No way, dude. Gosh, have you ever tried making out with a dog? Yuck!

"are you like a will ferrell character or something?

-- The Man Without Shadow (miltonpinsk...), March 8th, 2006."

Why? Please don't tell me he has done this in a movie already!!

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

No, but hundreds (maybe thousands) of other weak-ass mofos have tried it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

have you SEEN audition?

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.readymademag.com/images/feat_18_clowes1.jpg

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Now that I think about it when I first met my other'alf, he told me he was an artist and did cartoons and things - showed me some stuff, it was cute - so I said "draw me! Draw me!".

Mind you this involved making me look like a character out of a Jhonen Vasquez comic, and it took him 10 mins sitting on my couch, and I had all my clothes on and we were hangin' already - so that's not quite the same.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

Next time you're at the beach, Mr. Lurkerstien, try asking the girls if you can inspect their bikinis.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

mister es is not a movie producer after all!!

― estela (estela), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

UPDATE:

Using your advice, I asked her out for lunch. She politely declined. It sucks but I guess being rejected is better than coming off as a creep.

thanks anyways.

― Lurker McLurkerstein, Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Mm... sorry to hear it, but yeah if she says no to a simple thing like lunch, she's probably very not-interested. Ah well. Like you say, at least you saved face!

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

ohgod, if plans A or B had gone through she definitely would've then told all her friends of the creepiness. Good for you and I hope you keep your backbone; it's the only way. In a way, I feel kind of sorry for the girl, because it's always good to have those creepy stories. Maybe the next guy won't have the wisdom of ile on his side though and the world will keep going round as it should.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

Lurker McLurkerstein, if you're a real person, a bit more advice:

Oh, geez Louise! I was about to make a big boo-boo, it seems!

If you, um, talk anything like you write, you're going to have a tough road with most 21st-century girls. And:

(I have no idea how real people interact.)

Both these things being the case, I'd suggest turning to one of your female friends and asking for guidance on how to polish your style. People are shallow, not entirely and not on purpose, but they are, even so; if you're perceived as being too twee, or too childlike, or overly earnest, you'll have a much harder time than if you can find a way to tone it down a bit.

It's a shame, because if there's any situation in life when we could all use a little compassion and forgiveness of our "rough edges", it's when we're first learning to ask people out. I'm glad the girl in question was polite about it in your case; the first time I ever asked someone out, they laughed in my face...

― pahoehoe lurker, Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I'm a late-comer to this thread, but I just wanted to pop in to throw in a bit of derision.

I usually try to be fairly nice to people, especially shy or awkward people, but if someone asked me to model for them and I agreed and found out that it was a pretext for a date, I would be creeped out to the core and probably have to tell a lot of people.

The end.

― i haven't logged in, Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

The next part of the story is here, by the way:

See Closet Sluts - C/D/WTF?!?!

(it worked for McLurkerstein, but it kinda backfired: the girl has creeped him out)

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Her pretty eyes were not so fun to draw, after all.

― Abbott (Abbott), Saturday, 25 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

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