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― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

And we're off.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love it.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

HEAVY METAL REMIXES

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wait a minute... we're not ordinary!

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

That's a beautiful photo. I've never heard that album though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I watched "Eternal Sunshine" again last night. No movie makes me cry quite as reliably.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

You're still just trying to make your sensitive guy rep.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good song (this is the CD single) - the only non-electronic song I can think of that's been on B-96 in the past few years - just voice and piano.

xpost - Jordan's right, K. I only cry for Black Hawk Down.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

No, you're right. You know what I really like? Big ol' titties.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh John Legend. He is a new guy, right? I think I saw him perform on TV at some NBA event and I really liked the song he sang. So tell me, is this a worthwhile album to buy? I really like soul/R&B. And the album cover.

Oh, wait. It's a single. Is there a full-length album? And is it worthwhile?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

the only non-electronic song I can think of that's been on B-96 in the past few years - just voice and piano

There was a remake of Roxette's "Tell It to My Heart" last summer that was just voice and piano, by a Belgian group called D.H.T. -- there's a club version of it, too, but the stripped-down mix is the one that made it to radio. Although actually, I'm not sure I ever heard it on B96 -- but KISS-FM played it a lot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that one. It was kinda nice.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Erik, my soul guru, likes the JL album. There's a song on there with a tuba bassline.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

PS: I didn't like Crash or Magnolia, to be honest. I did like Short Cuts. Altman's the man.

I saw Junebug last night. I forget what you North Carolinians thought of it. I'd give it a marginal thumbs up. I'm skeptical about films that fetishize the South, and by having this urban elitist (British even!) invade the characters' space, it only reinforces the Way In Which Southerners Are Different. I sort of wished that the Embeth Davidtz character wasn't in the movie at all and it was just about the family, so it could avoid this trap. I also wished that David Gordon Green had directed it. But I did think Amy Adams's performance was very good: at first, it seemed too precious, but then that final scene in the hospital was astonishing. Again, maybe it's because I have Green on the mind, but it reminded me of Noel's monologue on the hotel bed in All the Real Girls in the range of emotions fluidly expressed within a short amount of time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've been meaning to see Junebug.
Also: I HATED Crash.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I hated Junebug.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

The outsider artist was awesome though.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

i think that boy wanting to ask that girl to model for him is ridiculous.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Junebug: I give it a "meh." Jeff gave it a "YARRRRRGGGGGGGGG BOOOOO!" I overidentified with Embeth's character, even though I'm not nearly as cool as she is, I have been in the position of being trailed after by starry-eyed younger female relatives who find me strange and fascinating, and I got really, really furious when her husband would leave her to navigate her way through his irritating southern family all alone. ADMITTED PROJECTION! Although Jeff is very good about not leaving me to navigate his perplexing souther family alone - we generally just cling to each other for safety until it's all over. Then we drink. But I kept thinking that if Jeff had left me to deal, I would freak the fuck out.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, remember when we tried to convince Adam M@rsh@ll that we had gone to see Magnolia in Grand Rapids, just to make him jealous, and you were all, "Oh, the old man [meaning Jason Robards] was so sweet"? Even though we hadn't actually seen it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah! that's awesome!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

the aforementioned lurker that i think is officially ridiculous is also stirring up something in me where i just want to keep posting to that dumb thread. argh!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think that boy wanting to ask that girl to model for him is ridiculous.
Only total grosso creeps do that -- I know because my friend Nicole used to get this line ALL THE TIME. Vile. Right up there with "I've been told I give great backrubs." (Not to revisit the backrub convo, but...)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

One time someone told me that my "silhouette was like a Greek statue" and I was like "oh, so you've noticed my big nose?" and he pretended to be shocked that I didn't fall for that shitty fucking line. Give me a break.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

lines are hilarious. i kinda think that guy on the other thread should just do it so that he either 'learns his lesson' or dates women dumb enough to fall for it.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing he could do is ask her to model and then NOT ask her out. It would confuse her (especially if she's easily confused) and she would be like "Why isn't he trying to ask me out? He must not be a creep." Then she will ask HIM out because she feels like he's safe AND a conquest. Problem solved.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

::furiously taking notes::

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

One time.

One time, this guy came up to me and said, "I'm a photographer, I'd love to take photos of you," etc., etc. He wasn't old or creepy though. Then he gave me a -- a sort of hand-made card. Which had a very cute drawing of a dinosaur type thing on it, and his phone number. And my name. And it clearly had taken a lot of effort for him to make. He had seen me at [the place where we were] a week before, and went through a lot of effort hoping I would happen to come back the next week.

At first I was creeped out by it all, and then I decided that the guy didn't seem creepy at all, and then we hung out, and then dated, and then things got very very intense, and then about 10 weeks later it was all over, and then about 18 months later I stopped feeling quite so oppressively sad about it being over.

I don't really have a point in sharing this story.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Do not tell women that they look like a renaissance painting, they will think you are calling them fat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

You people. Hello and happy Wednesday.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Roxette's "Tell It to My Heart"

Duh, I meant "Listen to Your Heart." It was not a Taylor Dayne cover.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

EMOTION OVERLOAD, IN THE HEAT OF PLEASUUUUUURE

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

make that PLEAAAAASHAAAAAAAH

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Actually Jordan I would assume they he what he was talking about, because I look a bunch more like some unearthed Greek thing than I do a modern swimsuit model. Except of course that my head & all appendages are still attached.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and then a few months after he broke up with me he was interviewed by Rolling Stone and talked about how he was doomed to be alone or somesuch and I seethed.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Happy International Women's Day, Chicago!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit. Happy International Women's Day.

Oh, and then a few months after he broke up with me he was interviewed by Rolling Stone and talked about how he was doomed to be alone or somesuch and I seethed.
I would have seethed too!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Interviewed by Rolling Stone? Who were you dating, David LaChappelle?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, that story totally sucks. My apologies.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Chris - spill it!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

But did you get to keep the pictures?

I'm guessing Ryan Adams on a photography binge.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha i think someone told me i looked like a renaissance work on the underwear thread (but i'm not fat! mostly). xp as usual with me!

Duh, I meant "Listen to Your Heart." It was not a Taylor Dayne cover.

thank you for clarifying. i couldn't quite imagine.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Gus Van Sant is a "photographer" of sorts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

hello chicago. visiting when the thread isn't intimidatingly long, as usual.

i was once told 'you have mannerist hands', but it wasn't a pickup line. i suspect the guy on the other thread is actually 17 and scared to admit it. at least, i hope that's not how people 'my age' actually think.

anything interesting happening in chicago around 8/9 april? will be around for a day or two...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

(v@n S@ant! v@n s@ant!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Colette, I don't know about anything on the 8th or 9th, but Eazy and I are both playing a show at Schubas on the 10th, if you're still in town then!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

He was interviewed as part of a "up and coming artsy types to keep an eye on", which as you know is the kiss of death for one's career.

But he was a photographer, and had done band photo work, etc.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

(And was no one you could possibly have heard of.)

(You all had your chance to get me drunk enough to talk about the one Famous Person that I have slept with, and you wasted it.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Which had a very cute drawing ... on it

http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/1097/vansant/gifs/gus3.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

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― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ALL OF THOSE GIRLS. THAT'S HOW WE BECAME BEST FRIENDS.

I give up. I love you, John, but I give up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

"women want to be hit on"

Yes. And in as creepy a way as possible. Please approach women on the bus.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Let me clarify two things:

1. There are really not that many people that I find myself attracted to, on a general basis. I'm not the kind of guy that gets crushes on everyone he meets but is too much of a pussy to do anything about it. I've gotten to the point in my life where, when someone interests me, I do try to do something about it. Maybe I don't go far enough, who knows. But it happens so rarely that I know that I'm a fool if I don't take advantage of the situation.

2. There's been this implicit assumption throughout this discussion that being more aggressive in hitting on women is just a switch that can be thrown -- like once you come to the realization that you can do it without being an asshole that suddenly the world opens up for you. But in a lot of ways, I don't even know how to perform this more aggressive style of pursuit. I still wait for signals from the other party that may never actually come. Hence M3g W@t3rm@n and I sitting extremely close to one another on a friend's couch in Minneapolis and nothing ever happening -- even though after the fact I kept wondering if maybe I had just waited too long, and then by 4:30 AM she couldn't justify staying up any longer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Tsuris is one of my favorite words, but I always forget that no one else knows what it means.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

(That's the joke of it, K.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

(I think I used it while walking around with Jesse at some point, even, and had to explain it then.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

I mispronounced "tuchis" in front of a Jewish girl last weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Did she tell you to get the shpilkes out?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

John--see you've already waited too long/and all your hope is gone. just shut your mouth/ how can we say/ you go about things the wrong way?

"Hit on" is a bad term. Approached, entreatied.

You have to just do it and be willing to hate yourself for being a bumbling idiot for a while b/c it can happen.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

like once you come to the realization that you can do it without being an asshole that suddenly the world opens up for you. But in a lot of ways, I don't even know how to perform this more aggressive style of pursuit. I still wait for signals from the other party that may never actually come.

I understand that, and believe me, it took me a lot of years to get past it. And I can't tell you how to get past it. I can't. There's no therapy for No Girlfriend. Except for some basic things, which I think we're all getting at -- respect yourself. Respect her. Talk to her. Talk to her about things that interest you. Have some things that interest you, other than the beer you're both drinking. Relax. You're not an asshole to her right now... remember that. You have plenty of time to be an asshole later.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's bad enough when your life reminds someone of Smiths lyrics, but when it's all from the same song...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, but I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Respect her. Talk to her. Talk to her about things that interest you. Have some things that interest you, other than the beer you're both drinking. Relax.

Right! Hanging out!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, Christ Almighty -- if that's all it takes, Kenan, then I'm a GENIUS at dating. You guys know me -- I'm a very affable guy, comfortable in a variety of social settings. But that's really not ALL there is to it, or else I'd be getting laid left and right.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

post "hanging out"

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― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) You act like I'm some meek dude who freaks out at the very prospect of talking to a real, live woman.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Right! Hanging out!

what i meant was, xpost to this:

wO34UTAS;OLVND;ASDNF;KLW!!!!!!!!!!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

hanging out

Ok, fine. You win. But stop calling it that.

That is all it takes, and you are not a genius at dating. Obviously not. You don't even go on "dates."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

We're going backwards.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

True, that (backwards).

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Since when do you want to get laid, J.? It always seems like you want to "have been laid".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

You guys know me -- I'm a very affable guy, comfortable in a variety of social settings.

No one is trying to say you're not totally lovable and extremely worthy of all kinds of social interaction. (Though if I were you, I'd dance less.)

(*note: this is the post that marks the end of John and I's friendship.)

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I like what Chris is getting at.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I don't know where you get that impression. One of my greatest fears is that I'll die and only have slept with two women in my life.

That is all it takes, and you are not a genius at dating. Obviously not.

So can you explain to me why I'm not a genius at dating, if I'm supposedly good at everything dating is all about?

I don't know what the fuck the "dancing less" line means. Were you at the Green Mill the other night? Were you? Because the fact that I was dancing is the reason why I even met K. in the first place. The first thing she said to me was how she was glad I got up to dance because they'd all been looking at our table and hoping that we'd get up and join them. Plus, if I have to change my dancing habits just so I can meet women, then fuck that. If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway. I'm marginally okay with dating women who don't like to dance themselves (hello, most recent girlfriend) -- but I'll be damned if I let them stop me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

One of my greatest fears is that I'll die and only have slept with two women in my life.

Oh wait, this is your point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

. Plus, if I have to change my dancing habits just so I can meet women, then fuck that. If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway. I'm marginally okay with dating women who don't like to dance themselves (hello, most recent girlfriend) -- but I'll be damned if I let them stop me.
Priceless! Most adorable thing said all day.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's bad enough when your life reminds someone of Smiths lyrics, but when it's all from the same song...

I have a lot of Smiths lyrics running through my head right now, but damned if I can narrow them down. Do tell.

If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway.

You should run with that. Seriously.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

most adorable and most positive thing too!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus. I feel ilke we just had a theraputic breakthrough.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't. I feel like it's the same thing I've been saying the entire time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway.

Yes, this is the place where my head lives, too. Except I am sort of trying to figure out how NOT to hold it against people if they don't want to be wit' me. It's an uphill battle.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

My point is more along the lines of... how remarkably honest and open you are about your past sexual experiences (and how healthy, at least from my perspective, you seem to be about them), and yet how completely intimidated and uncertain and neurotic you are about any future ones.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I love you, J0hn C. I really do.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Since when do you want to get laid, J.? It always seems like you want to "have been laid".

This is the real therapeutic breakthrough for me right now. The more I think about it, the truer it is. The actual having-sex part stresses me out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go, but I think that this has been a really really good conversation! A Quality Conversation!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

somebody start a new thread: Chicago: Quality Conversations

GO!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh great, Kenan. These threads should automatically be de-indexed, shouldn't they? At least I have a fairly common name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's my opposite, John. I am soo happy with the happening, and neurotic in the aftermath.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

As per Jesse's request:

Chicago: Tago Mago

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, I guess I was thinking less of the immediate aftermath, and more of the down-the-road being able to say I slept with someone and did adventurous things. All of my exciting sexual exploits are now years and years old. Except for that creepy guy I went home with a couple months ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow, a thousand posts trying to pinpoint why J. finds sex so stressful. Meanwhile, I should go shower and start the offline part of my day.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

why J. finds sex so stressful

As "remarkably open" I am about my past sexual experiences, I'm not sure I entirely want to get into that. Not in public, at least. Unless I was drunk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, you guys have been busy.

John was dancing with second-line dude at the show! Right? That took some guts, because that dude can f'n step.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Who now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I went home for lunch and watched a hard-hitting documentary called "How People Make Real Trumpets" on Mr. Roger's Neighborhood (complete with synthesized trumpet solo soundtrack).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

The middle-aged black dude from New Orleans who was dancing a lot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Right. We have a new thread now. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Then I'll stop posting on this one now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, right now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

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