Does Coven make Ozzy and Sabbath a total rip-off band??

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Coven: The Portrait Coven were one of the first bands with occult lyrics in the 60´s. Their album Witchcraft - Destroys Minds And Reaps Souls that featured an original recitation of a Black Mass was released [b]one year before the first Black Sabbath album and featured a track called Black Sabbath[/b]. The name of [b]the bass player of Coven was Ozzy Osbourne[/b], but he had nothing to do with Black Sabbath Ozzy.

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Coven - Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls Imagine a satanic Jefferson Airplane with a rough on the edges Grace Slick murmuring tales of misfortune and redemption. At first this seems like a mediocre psychedelic hard rock album from1969, then intertwined through themes of witchcraft and the devil, it becomes apparent that this is the link between the summer of love and Black Sabbath.

So, like, I can say I dug Sabbath and Ozzy before Sabbath and Ozzy ever existed.

WTF FTW, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

That should be:

...one year before the first Black Sabbath album and featured a track called Black Sabbath.

and

The name of the bass player of Coven was Ozzy Osbourne, but he had nothing to do with Black Sabbath Ozzy.

WTF FTW, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:45 (twenty years ago)

does it have sweet riffage?

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

This is the thread where you discredit the origins of a genre.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Witchfynder General too

dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

did you mean this to be on ilm?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Nah, ILM is too music-oriented. I don't see what this has to do with music.

Tiger Woods: Spaz, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:08 (twenty years ago)

does it have sweet riffage?

Bong-rattling bass? Competent drumming?

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

Thread concept is idiotic, but Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls is an ideal album for Halloween parties.

love (the band) loves to love love (Treeship), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)

groovy halloween parties that is.

love (the band) loves to love love (Treeship), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 00:26 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

One of the songwriters, James Vincent, used the name "Jim Donlinger" on the album. He actually was not a member of the band, but was asked by Bill Traut, Coven's producer (and founder of Dunwich Records, whose logo also appears on the album), to write, arrange and co-produce the album together with Traut. Vincent describes the event in negative terms, as a "bizarre album project":

"Bill brought me a large box full of books about witchcraft and related subjects. He told me to read them and start writing some songs ... Sometime before the sun came up, I had completely written all the material requested of me for the entire album ... Coven also contributed one or two songs to the project."[3]

Treeship, Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:32 (eleven years ago)

the lyrics on this album are wonderfully stupid for the first Legitimately Satanist (TM) band. on wicked woman we learn (of the wicked woman) that "her incantations abound" and "what she's doing insane." jinx dawson also sings "cha cha cha" after every repetition of "Wicked Woman!" in the chorus. that's one of the songs the band wrote but the professional songwriters are not much better. in "pact with lucifer" a farmer "vowed to sell his soul for dollar one." we learn he'd settle up with the devil "in 1840, in seven year's time." coven didn't really write any lines that weren't contorted to fit their meter and rhyme schemes.

dawson is a powerful singer though especially considering she was like seventeen or something when this was recorded. also she invented the sign of the horns

Treeship, Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:53 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

I just think it's dope that Jinx Dawson was one of the people who introduced the horns to metal.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:20 (eleven years ago)


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