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take the fashion-mag part out of it and it's still a pretty apt snapshot of cutthroat nyc office environments. at my first salaried position out of college i got the same "shut up, bottom feeder, and fetch me my lunch" treatment. which i probably deserved. entry-level assistant jobs are a pestilence upon new york city. don't even get me started on interns.

this movie was ok. but all the scenes outside the magazine and its sphere were painfully bad (the romantic interests and friends especially). the friends looked and acted like they were plucked from an infomercial.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, black chick scolding her at art opening(?)was soooooo bad. I know this was based on a novel, but how much better would this flick be if Andie went over to the dark side at the end. Also, music cues were also mostly terrible. Yeah, we're focusing on "cutting edge" fashion playing tunes from 5-10-15(!) years ago.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the same thing about the music cues.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILER

i'm confused about what happens at the end -- does she take the new job or does she go off with her bf to boston? it seems like she takes the job, but that leaves the bf situation awkwardly unresolved.

END SPOILER

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

It was less bitchy than I expected (or wanted).

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

The line where Hathaway talks about not being beautiful, thin, glamorous, etc. = roffles.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, did i miss the memo about her being fat and ugly?

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

egads, size 6!!

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

i did like the line where tucci calls her "six."

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

more often than not, i find streep & tucci somewhat annoying & "actorly" but here they did well, esp. streep. and hathaway, tho no powerhouse, is ultimately the one who makes this watchable (streep dominates but has relatively small amount of screen time)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

and the scene where streep gives hathaway the lecture about "cerulean blue" trickling down from couture into cheap sweaters at the mall -- totally OTM. when you buy clothes, you're buying fashion, no matter how tenth-generation it might be.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

streep should never play anything other than rich bitches.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

when you buy clothes, you're buying fashion, no matter how tenth-generation it might be.

who cares

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

some people care!

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

why

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that scene re: cerulean blue was good, but the argument isn't likely to convince non-believers about the importance of fashion

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

timmy tannin the way you phrase that makes it sound like fashion really is important

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

can't you be stylish and save the world at the same time? angelina does it.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

oh sorry i didn't realize angelina did it now if you'll excuse me i've got to go like fashion now suddenly

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

why are you even on this thread, dude

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

i saw the film just like you did and i have opinions regarding the film just like you do jacques lu c on t. my opinion just happens to be that the movie is a bunch of dogshit moron crapola for idiots and fashion is stupid jerkoff diarrhea barf.

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

"She's out of your league".

― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

why did you even see the film, dude

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

here is the entire movie

SPOILER ALERT, BE CAREFUL EVERYONE SPOILERS LIE WITHIN THIS NEXT PARA-GRAPH

hey look fashion fashion fashion check it out fashion skinny women fancy things money money money money money money money money sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex look look look look look look, uh oh it is actually a bad thing

OKAY THE SPOILER HAS FINISHED NOW, YOU ARE SAFE TO READ THIS PARTICULAR SENTENCE AND WHATEVER LIES AFTERWARD IT

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

you sound like a fun person, ath.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

ok but i don't really see what that has to do with this movie

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

if you're so deeply offended by everything this movie is about why did you go see it? were you dragged by a GURL?

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

ewwwww, gurls are stinky!!

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

let's just say, for the sake of argument, jacques lu c on t, that i'm frankie muniz from the hit tv series malcolm in the middle and i was invited to the hollywood premier

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

HOLLYWOOD IS SO SHALLOW

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

now can we actually talk about the movie? surely there are other "fashion is stupid" threads on this board.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

ok i guess my chief complaint with the film was that its critique on the materialistic world of fashion journalism would have been that much more effective had the songs featured on the soundtrack been more contemporary by a minimum of three (3) years

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

and i agree. but the whole movie feels like a throwback to a few years ago, like post 9/11 but pre cancellation of sex and the city.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

dogshit moron crapola for idiots

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not even so sure it's a "critique" of fashion journalism. it comes off like a breathless tribute, and there are things about hathaway's character that are meant to be chuckled at (like her believing that anybody gives a shit that she was editor-in-chief of her school paper).

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i also was not quite exactly sure if that's what it was (a "critque") or not but i'll have you know that you can rest assured i spent a good deal of time thinking about whether or not it was and i've got a pretty good feeling that i'm about to come to a decision on this topic eventually sometime within the near future

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

and i mean, why, in this day and age, amidst all this political turmoil, in this tumultuous, politically-charged world in which we live and the turmoil which accompanies it, shouldn't we take a minute to pay tribute to fashion journalism by watching a movie regarding it? i mean, what, exactly, is a reason to not do this?

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

i saw the road to guantanamo a week ago. this was funnier.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

i, for one, am just glad to know that fashion has finally been paid tribute to (unless, of course, it has been "critiqued," in which case i'm not entirely sure how to feel about that)

― ath (ath), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

I hate fashion and yet I feel like watching this movie just to spite ath.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the movie was supposed to be funny?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

it's a lighthearted romp

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

the third-best comedy of the middle of the summer! -leonard maltin

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hathaway is a very strange actress. She's so drama club-y (it's the facial expressions and the way she changes her voice), and serious about the craft only in the way that drama club people are. I'm still not sure if her role in Havoc was the worst performance I've ever seen, or actually pretty good.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

The sections that were basically fashion-porn (and all the touching romantic BS) were kind of meh, but I did like the rest of it.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

her name reminds me of ann hampton callaway.

http://www.corporateartists.com/images/anncalloway.jpg

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

ath, fashion is important because we all wear clothes all the time and somebody had to fucking design them and that person thought long and hard about how to do it. i really dislike how certain parts of western culture maintain this absurd hatred of appearance, dividing objects of evaluation into 'surface' and 'inner' categories and automatically rejecting the former when the latter is largely incommunicable. formalism is valuable, too!

note that i haven't seen the movie, and i probably won't because i've heard from several sources how poor a grasp of fashion design it has.

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

i hope that's coherent.

― lf (lfam), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

the movie doesn't talk about "fashion design" very much though... it focuses more on what goes into putting together a magazine. which is always interesting to see in movies (for me, anyway).

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

and i liked that hathaway was the only person at runway not employed there out of sheer love and awe of the trade, but her motive for stepping on her co-worker's toes was that if she did it she'd be able to last out the year and perhaps get a good reference out of it. she never gave the impression that she was growing to love her job, just that she was proud of herself for doing it well. that part's realistic enough.

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

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Altman would be happy. This can be interpreted in two ways: glad we forgot about *that* movie or he's stomping the ground because we forgot.

he probably doesn't remember making it. (or what he ate for breakfast this morning. or what his kids' names are.)

― jacques lu c on t (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

watching a movie about movie! Directed by Michel Gondry probably.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

I apologize for my bhehavio4r on this thread. Liqours have drunkend me.

― you can email me if you wish to challenge the truth (nickalicious), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, so everything that I have heard about ILE film threads is true.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

I know! I ended up reading Blade Runner and then I knew what people meant about the nastiness on ILE film threads.

watching a movie about movie! Directed by Michel Gondry probably.

Heh. Yeah, my brain's overcooked due to the heat. That's the excuse I can make today. :-)

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to see this film because I do work in the fashmag industry, although not a title with the office hierarchies of the Conde Nasties.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

and i mean, why, in this day and age, amidst all this political turmoil, in this tumultuous, politically-charged world in which we live and the turmoil which accompanies it, shouldn't we take a minute to pay tribute to fashion journalism by watching a movie regarding it? i mean, what, exactly, is a reason to not do this?

beats posting to internet message boards, eh?

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Righto, now somebody has said "Sex" eight times in a row, prepare for the arrival of googlers...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

i thought it was pretty funny... better than i thought it was going to be, anyway

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a bit surprised it did so well opposite Superman Returns.

Anyway, the unbearable RoboStreep was rather good; she should indenture her talent to the Comedic Muse from here on in, since, like her funny roles, her dramatic ones are caricatures of human beings anyway.

Too long by about 10 minutes, but the best glittering trash I've seen all year. Mitchell Leisen might approve.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a bit surprised it did so well opposite Superman Returns.

theyre kinda different audiences though...

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

I dont understand why ath is so angry about this, of all things. Did he get run over by a YSL truck or something?

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

i do not and never have had a human body and so naturally i resent human body clothes magazine related movie threads

― ath (ath), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

ATH IS ABOUT TO BE HIT BY THE

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― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

nickalicious otm. i will see this one day too and i will be happy about it.

and lf, yaay.
SURFACES SURFACES SURFACES EVERYWHERE.
plus, fashion is also about CHANGE and just how arbritrary or not that might be.
i'm into all this.

― rrrobyn sharkattack battleforcenet (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

the movie doesn't talk about "fashion design" very much though... it focuses more on what goes into putting together a magazine. which is always interesting to see in movies (for me, anyway).
-- jacques lu c on t (theundergroundhom...), Yesterday.

okay, then i definitely won't see it. my dislike for magazines is probably on par with ath's dislike for fashion.

― lf (lfam), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0446526568.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64217706_.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I thought there was a movie about an unemotional, cold rationalist businesswoman in here that was still a sympathetic character. Great in that it doesn't demonize Streep's character, it only implies that it's a mercilessly competitive world and not for everyone. Jody otm about the other cast members, though.

― taco freebie (mike h.), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

more often than not, i find streep & tucci somewhat annoying & "actorly" but here they did well, esp. streep.

This might be my favorite Stanley Tucci performance. That moment, having champagne with Anne Hathaway, when he can't contain his enthusiasm over the possibility that he might leave Miranda's clutches, is the best thing he's ever done.

No one's singled out Emily Post's acidulous coworker, though.

In fact, Tucci, Streep, and Post give three of the best performances I've seen this year (Anne Hathaway and the terrible grunge-lite boyfriend get hopeless roles, but Hathaway is turning into a rather smart actress, and she always managed to give a line an unusual spin).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

taco OTM about the movie's unhysteric view of Miranda. David Denby got this one right: "This has to be the most devastating boss-lady performance in the history of cinema. By comparison, Faye Dunaway’s hysterics in “Network” come off as amusing freak-outs, and Sigourney Weaver in “Working Girl” is a coarse, leather-lunged shouter."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 8 July 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

is stanley tucci actually gay?

― phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 9 July 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

HATHAWAY UPSET WITH TUCCI'S BREAST OBSESSION

Actor STANLEY TUCCI couldn't keep his hands off co-star ANNE HATHAWAY on the set of new fashion comedy THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA - because he was fascinated with her breasts.
The actress reveals she had to eventually rebuke her co-star
when he kept elbowing her in the chest, because she felt it was inappropriate, and it hurt.
She explains, "There was this one day where he kept elbowing me in the breast. He wasn't doing it to be like a dirty old man, but if we were doing a scene or I was just crossing to get to my mark (on the set) he would just smack me in my boob and elbow me.
"If you're a girl you know that hurts. So, after about the fourth time, I finally turned to him and said, 'Stanley can you please stay away from my t**s?' "Stanley got really flustered and he said, 'What do you expect, you're flinging those melons around like it's harvest season!'"

― Cor-Ray (chaki), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

HI I READ DEFAMER TOO

― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

hi i read associated press 2

― Cor-Ray (chaki), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha that story is old news already

― grandfathered in (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

stanley tucci actually gay?

yess. i saw him with the bf at circle in the square.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like a gay club but it's a theatre.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

didn't he used to date Edie Falco?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

he's married

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

i hope he remembers to take off his ring when he goes out cruising!

― grandfathered in (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

he denies knowing who Andre Leon Talley is - he must be gay

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 9 July 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

OK, so I agree that Jarlsberg is the perfect cheese for grilled cheese, but some of her outfits have got to go. The necklaces, off the shoulder sweater, and 19th C. Dickensian cap are a prime example of what you might expect to see on Sex and the City but not on a protege of Miranda Priestley who I doubt would have deigned to carry a Prada bag if she didn't have to put up with her creator's lack of skill in coming up with a more suitable title. The problem is clutter. Clutter without a point, ya know? (I believe in fashion's frivolity and its absolutes.)

― youn (youn), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

but the title is what MADE the book!

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 24 July 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

cute movie

― a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2009 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

It was terrible. I like the combative Ath above, and I hated the ghastly nasty aggressive Streep speech about how fashion is actually important for all of us. Thank god this pile of bs is all in the longago past now.

― the pinefox, Friday, 9 January 2009 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

do you dress well?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 January 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)

ghastly, nasty, aggressive, Streep, speech

― a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2009 01:35 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

this is fun but kind of... self-parodic. the scene where they queer-eye hathaway and it's like the end of 'grease' or some shit. it's like, really? the ultimate hot girl before/hot girl after bit.

― eligible bachelor, million dollar boat (Brohan Hari), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

yeah it's totally disney. but she was kind of perfect in the part.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

she and emily blunt are certainly keeping me watching tbh.

― eligible bachelor, million dollar boat (Brohan Hari), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

so jealous of you watching this right now! i just love how hathaway's eyes are so big and innocent, she looks like a beautiful deer

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

oh i thought this was about the horrible band. i have friends who love them and it makes me sad

― k3vin k., Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)

great movie

― max, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:38 (sixteen years ago)

boy that adam grenier is some actor.

― eligible bachelor, million dollar boat (Brohan Hari), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

lol adrian. he's all look, i'm a cute guy, see??

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

isn't he?

― double bird strike (gabbneb), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

i've seen my first 2 hathaway movies in the last month. she can act, rite?

― double bird strike (gabbneb), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

ya he totally is. he lives in my hood. i think she's a pretty awesome actress! seems really comfortable onscreen.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

the writer in this is a fucking dick and he looks like a tweaker also.

― eligible bachelor, million dollar boat (Brohan Hari), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

he's actually a former tv psyhchic

lol 4 lyfe

― Lamp, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

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