Chicago: When Someone Rides Free We All Pay!!!!!!!!!

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― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

nigga i done did it

― EsteBAN LOUIS JAGGER (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Please Ban me, thanx.

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

But the thing is, this thread doesn't say Chicago!

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

*sigh* It should. Make a mod request to change the title to "Chicago: When someone rides free, we all pay."

It's what they say on the buses!

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm never going back to NO

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck this thread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Where can I get one of those jackets?

― a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm despondent now.

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I, for one, love the opening photograph.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I googled Big Shoulders!

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.seiu1.org/images/chicagoconweb.jpg

This is from googling "the city that works".

I thought that was a corrupt alderlady up top.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

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― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

yet another day that won't end but in an entirely different way. anyone up for coctails tonight?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like this thread.

BUT.

I'm having dinner with my mom at Marigold (new Indian restaurant) tonight. I'm in a pickle because it was her birthday a couple weeks ago and so I was planning on paying for dinner, even though she usually pays. But then this morning I was thinking about it and realized I don't really have that kind of money to spend, because she'll want to get wine and dessert, and it'll be at least $50. So I said, maybe I'll just get her an iTunes gift certificate instead.

Cool, right? So then she calls me this morning and leaves me a voicemail (I was on the train) that says, "Are we still on for tonight? I don't have any ideas about where to go, so I'll let you decide, since you're treating me." And I was like wha? Did I accidentally tell her that I had been planning on treating her? I don't know why I would've done that, since my plan all along was to surprise her by picking up the check when it arrived. So now I don't know whether I'm obligated to pay for it or not. I'm hoping maybe I just misunderstood what she said on the voice mail. I already bought the gift certificate, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

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― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yr screwed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe my brother told her...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's your MOM. Get over it and buy the nice lady dinner.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

How's Madison, Amateurist? I'm moving to the near east side in a few months, most likely.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I totally would, but after the last few years of just spending money willy-nilly and never balancing my checkbook, I've been evaluating my finances lately and noticing a rapid decline in my savings. So I'm probably being a little more assiduous than usual lately about not spending too much money.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

it's your mom. she'll probably be understanding if you explain. and you did get her a gift certificate...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my mom is usually understanding. I don't know if I should wait until the check comes and see what she does or if I should just say something straight-away. (I'm still hoping I misunderstood her.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh: I just listened to the voice mail again: she says, "...I think you're taking me out, but I'm not sure."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I would go with "It's your mom, and so this isn't the place to be more assiduous than usual, you cheapskate." Nick, of Nick and Nora, works at Marigold. Let us know how it is, John.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

BUT LISTEN UP FUCKERS! I have two important announements:

1. If you come to our front gate and want to get inside, dial 29 on the keypad and hope that Jeff is home since that goes to his cell phone. We don't actually know how to open the door with the phone, but we'll at least know you're there.

2. My graduation from law school is May 20, 2007. There are no tickets, so if you want to suffer through the ceremony, come on along. I am also having some sort of party, hopefully planned by someone who isn't me. So save the date, because after that, you won't see my ass until the beginning of August, after I take the bar.

JENNY OVER AND OUT.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I skipped out early on my high school graduation festivities and didn't go to my undergraduate graduation because I was too cool for all that but this time I'm taking more of a "This sucked too hard not to clearly and publicly mark the achievement in some way" point of view and it's all important to me and stuff and junk.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Jenny agreeing with me. You don't save money by not being generous to your mom (or your friends or other loved ones), you do it by cutting back on moneys you spend on yourself. Only be cheap to mom if it means you won't make rent.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever, dudes. I gave my mom the gift certificate, and then when the check came, she was all, "Let me get this one. I know you talked about paying, but you already gave me a present, and this is a lot more money to you than it is to me." I sheepishly said that I'd been worrying about it, in fact, and she gave me a pitying look and said, "Oh no no, you shouldn't worry about it, it's really nothing." She was very happy with the gift certificate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I don't think I'm being a cheapskate just because I decided not to spend $65 (including tip) on a birthday gift! I don't think I've ever spent that much on anyone for anything. My mom recognized that it would've been extravagant.

The food, btw, was delicious. Nick did not serve us, though. Some kooky middle-aged ditz was our waitress. She grinned maniacally and said things like, "Ohhhh, isn't it gooooood?" and "You guys are so funny!!" -- even though we hadn't said anything. Then she did a "Psst, see those two ladies over there? One of them ate all of her lamb vindaloo! I don't know she did it, it's really spicy!!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

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― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

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Saints Spirit.

His face reads "Who Dat," as in "Who dat? Who dat? Who dat say they gonna beat them Saints!"

― I'm Sorry For This Thread (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that is so great.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight was fun. I finished my Flann O'Brien book, took a nap, went to the gym, met some dudes for wings, and then popped over to a jam session and played some second-line. Couldn't ask for anything more.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you book club could read For Common Things: Irony, Trust and Commitment in America Today.

John, you could save yourself money by taking your mom out to any of the bars that offer dollar burgers on Tuesdays.

I found another band interested in covering a full LP, probably d'Angelo's Voodoo.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Which Flann O'Brien? I've read At Swim Two Birds and another one (Dalkey something?), both of which were pretty great.

I just finished the newer Peter Carey novel, Theft, which was really good. I think I need to read a bunch of his other books, since Illywhacker was good too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda pathetic: I'm so Excited* about my mini road trip to Baton Rouge that I woke up at 5 and couldn't go back to sleep so I finally just got up and started getting ready.

I'm gonna go for a jog, getting some coffee and hitting the road at 7.

*WTF? Am I James Frye now?

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I just read At Swim-Two-Birds, I really liked it. The Third Policemen is one of my book club ideas (and I will check out the books that you guys mentioned).

I found another band interested in covering a full LP, probably d'Angelo's Voodoo.

What is this for? 'Cause I would LOVE to cover Voodoo.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

I decided not to spend $65 (including tip) on a birthday gift!

can we change the name of this thread to "Chicago: I'm Not Gonna Pay A Lot For This Mother"?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

HA!

Jenny, you will see everyone between May 20th and August whatever because The Wedding is June 2nd. Attendance is mandatory! YOU WILL HAVE FUN! AnD DANCE!

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John, I can't believe you've never spent more than $65 on a gift!? Of course, I'm no model for good budgeting seeing as how I'm tens of thousands of dollars in debt. The pastor we'll probably pick for our ceremony suggested that if either of us has any debt, we should try as hard as we can to pay it off before we get married. If I listened to him, I probably wouldn't be able to get married for another 20 years.

Also, Jesse, I LOVE that photo.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

You're worried about dipping into your savings to pay for your mom's birthday gift? Your mom dipped into her savings to buy you a BIRTHDAY, dude.

(note: i am not really "outraged" about this or anything, but seriously, if you're going to dip into savings, Mom is a good reason to do it.)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

What is this for? 'Cause I would LOVE to cover Voodoo.

The idea of putting together a regular night of bands covering entire LPs beginning-to-end. If this gets rolling, you should bring one of your bands to town and do it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazed you have savings. That is commendable.

I wish the Ice Factory would host our album covering project. Then it could become a monthly event (with different bands each time). Speaking of IF, Crap Eng1ne is breaking up.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazing your mom is hip enough to appreciate an iTunes gift certificate.

The album covering idea is great, too bad none of my bands would really fit. The rock band doesn't really do covers. The Kid Jordan Second Line (my new traditional jazz band!) was started to cover a whole album, but it's so obscure that no one would care

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazing
Jordan, are you feeling particularly self-confident today? :-D

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, you should still cover that album. The fact that it's so obscure is part of the charm of the project.

― Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, whoops.

It would be cool to take that band to Chicago since our saxophonist lives there and my friend Scott could play bass, but we would need a local dude who can play New Orleans piano.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

John, I can't believe you've never spent more than $65 on a gift!?

When would I have ever done this? I mean, I think last Christmas my brother and I spent somewhere in that range, probably a little bit more, on each parent, but that was split between the two of us. Unevenly, since he's a student, but still.

I'm still feeling weird and guilty about the whole thing, especially because of some of the responses I got on this thread. And then Kr said something about how she would've paid for the dinner because she feels like she owes her parents for helping to put her through college. And I was just like, "Huh. That's never occurred to me." I mean, obviously I'm grateful that they did, and I know that not all people are so lucky, but I've never considered that I was forever in their debt or anything -- they've certainly never made me feel that way.

Did I mention my mom makes like four times as much as I do?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

And your mom has house payments and car payments and raised two children already and put them both through college and has to save for her retirement.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

GRRRRRRR.

(btw, I would love to cover a whole album, but a) C4n4st4 would probably take like two years to actually do it, and b) the only thing we'd be able to agree upon is some middlebrow crap like Flaming Lips or whatever.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

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My replacement is smart fer real. He wrote some books and stuff. I think one is called "God, G@ys and Gun5"

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can't see the pic, jesse.

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

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Man or Astroman? is totally rocking my ass right now.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

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― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Should we cut this thread off at 3000 posts this time?

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Sure.

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Randy Newman is fantastic.

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I just got a scan of an article written about my dad from a magazine in Turkey. Does anyone speak Turkish?

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure lots of Turks do dan. but i don't know any.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

My old crazy boss was a Turk. I ain't going to call him, though.

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

You could ask Orhan Pamuk, but he just won the Nobel Prize for Literature, so he might be a little busy right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

ASK AT YR OWN RISK. Actually, I know a friend of a friend who's Turkish, Dan, but I don't know if I can get hold of him right away. I'll ask, though!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, not really looking for a translation or anything (it's kind of long) but it'd be interesting to hear what they're saying about the old man.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

What does your dad do that the Turks are interested in him?

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

He is an industrial archaeologist, and spoke at the opening of some museum over there.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Dan and dad:

http://www.jamesbondfilme.de/sean_indy2.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that's a new one!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

SORRY

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

J/K NP D00D

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

My father does nothing quite so interesting as tracking down biblical treasure.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is it because he's afraid of the rats?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

He has gotten "too old for this shit."

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of "too old for this shit," has anyone else seen the trailer for the new Rocky film? Hoo boy. I know Rocky's a dumb jock, but Stallone looks sedated the entire time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Just watched it on Apple.com. Oof.

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think the film could work if they had some fun with it, gave it a little ironic wink-wink, but it just looks so joyless.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I'd probably see it, anyway, but this looks like a big box-office bomb to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, who is the audience for this?

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

People who liked the other Rocky movies?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, yeah it's going to be bad, but I know at least a few dudes who will see it anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Not me! In fact, let's talk about something else. Is Amanda feeling better today? Kenan, what are you doing on the apartment front, waiting to hear back?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Waiting to hear back. Grr. I need another cigarette.

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm off to the doc's. Covering for all the work I'm missing for these tests is going to be a cast-iron pain in the ass.

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with your cornea, Dan.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

"It is generally accepted that Algren wrote best about his beloved Chicago. His last Chicago residence was a walk-up apartment on the north side of west Evergreen Street, just east of Damen Avenue, in a neighborhood that was once one of Chicago's toughest and most crowded Polish slums, but is now a gentrified, popular nightlife district."

shit, i walk past there every damn day.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

His home has a little marker outside it showing he lived there, otto.

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

How do you like the book?

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with your cornea, Dan.

Why do I picture you saying this with a smirk?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

THIS IS NO SMIRKING MATTER THE MAN HAS A CONICAL EYEBALL

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I need Jesse to call me!

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

book was f'ing awesome, can't wait to see the film. i'm stopping by the house today!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

poor frankie machine, i didn't see it coming but it was probably his best option.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Why do I picture you saying this with a smirk?

Because you think I'm a terrible person with no capacity for sympathy?

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is a species from THE FUUUTTTUUURREEE.

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Cornea" is kind of a funny word.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's a corny word.

― Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

LOCAL THREAD KILLED BY DAN'S CORNEA, FILM AT 11.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.eadshome.com/images/Reznor.jpg

UR THREAD IS DEAD!
AND NO ONE CARES!

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's about time for a new thread anyway.

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

i just had a great lunch. it was free. we're looking at conference facilities and we checked out the L0ewe's because it's the only union hotel in town. Duck confit with yummy spinach and some risotto. And turtle soup.

― I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Sweater weather

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

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