Psychogeography: the missing link between Situationism, Punk and Town Planning

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One of the best books I read last year was Andrew Hussey's 'The Game of War: The Life Of Guy Debord'. I noticed a lot of interest in the Situationists in Britain when I was there last December -- a whole shelf of books about them in a special display at Edinburgh's Fruitmarket Gallery, for instance.

Now their return to fashion seems confirmed by an article in today's Guardian about the application of Debord's idea of 'psychogeography' to modern urban planning. Although it's not that fascinating (British town planners aren't as angry as Debord, and their quotes just don't make zingy copy), the article does point up another parallel between the Situationists and Punk: the modern city as breeding ground of alienation, apathy and anarchy.

"The world we live in, and beginning with its material decor, is discovered to be narrower by the day. It stifles us. We yield profoundly to its influence; we react to it according to our instincts instead of according to our aspirations. In a word, this world governs our way of being and it grinds us down." Guy Debord (and, later, Johnny Rotten)

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think debord will soon become a cult , like Foccult in the 1980s . However brilliant he is in depicting the speactle as dominat trope his city planning and pychogerography is not as interesting as Rem Koolhas (cf Art Forum, Feb 02) or Jane JAcobs .

anthony, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oddly enough, debord loved london, as a place to ahem "dérive" in (eg get pished and wander randomly) — i suppose because so very much of it has accreted unplanned and overlooked

(to be honest, when town planners get "avant garde", i doubt the planned at/on get that much more fun out of the results)

baby u can dérive my car

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oddly enough, debord loved london

Bataille also loved London, as did Gainsbourg. I think they all saw it as the antidote to the oppressive perfection of Paris, whose wide, monument-capped Haussman boulevards Debord saw as military corridors designed to let the army rush efficiently to any site of urban revolt.

But I think in the end any city we don't come from strikes us, as visitors or immigrants, as 'unnecessary / irresponsible' and 'free' and 'improvisational' (the streets unfold as unpredictably as a jazz solo) whereas our home town is 'necessary', a place of obligations and duties, with few surprises. Derive was, of course, a 'cheap holiday in your own misery', a way to drift about your own city so that you couldn't help stumbling on fresh sites and unknown quarters.

I'm constantly raving about Tokyo as the ultimate 'free and improvisational' city (certainly the planning there is pretty wild, anything seems to go), only to be greeted by depressed looks from my NY Japanese friends, who see it as a glum return to normality after the fairy tale of their years abroad.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't read the article, although i was a bit confused by the headline, being aware that he killed him self some time ago - i guess i'll have to go back and read it.

I've never been into the Fruitmarket Gallery either, i'll have to pop in some time, the cafe looks nice from the outside.

leigh, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus's last paragraph is at once 'well, duh!' and touching.

N., Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus, you might like to have a look at the work of a fellow called Iain Borden, who also uses situ-inspired stuff in his work on architecture / town planning. Also strong on mongrel use of urban space. Bit keen on skateboarders. He and others put together a triffic book / exhibition a few years back called "Strangely Familiar".

McKay's journal is online here: lots of time consuming / variably interesting stuff.

I always sensed that demanding the impossible would likely not sit well with apportionment of local authority budgets, but perhaps that's just me.

And G. Debord would have called you all sorts of names for using the word situationism, wouldn't he? I wasn't aware the situs had gone out of fashion. Silly me.

Tim, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim, thanks for that link! The media page has a big chuck of Debord's film 'La Societe du Spectacle' and is followed by a film about London by my friend Jamie Cola. Highbrow hand in hand with broadband!

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cover version ahoy Momus: "I'm Debord in the U! S! A!"

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually I chose to 'De Tocqueville The Casbah' instead.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And before some arse comes back with a crack about being 'Too Drunk To Foucault', I declare this cul well and truly de sacked.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you Saussure , Momus ?

anthony, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sturrock, Demann, for Kristeva's sake, I'm gonna Barthes!

Now if we could only travel through time, we could all get sub-editor jobs at the NME circa 1981.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hip hip irigaray!

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you lot are no better than animals at cixous

Alasdair, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oddly enough, debord loved london
Bataille also loved London, as did Gainsbourg

and Stereolab live in Camberwell! Suddenly it all makes sense.

Jeff W, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

vaneigem and weep!

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All who let the pun Genet out of the Baudrill ard oomed. We will never ge Derrida it now.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE UCI CRITICAL THEORY/COMPARATIVE LITERATURE DEPARTMENT:

All further puns involving past or current members of the department, or those who were the study of a three-day conference here, will result in the offender being tarred and feathered with strips of paper from unsold volumes by Richard Rorty. Said offenders will then be forced to join either the philosophy or the linguistics departments, to be with their own kind.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but it's althusser little bit of fun, ned!

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SinX0r, you're neither use nor Adornoment.

Tim, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bataille also loved London, as did Gainsbourg
My dad stood besides Serge one time in Camden Passage.

helenfordsdale, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm reading "Sounding Out the City" by Michael Bull right now; has anyone else read it? It's about how portable music players reconfigure urban space for the people who use them. Do they enable people to cope with their lives? Do they make people even more alienated from their urban environment? Do they heighten reality? Etc. It's a good book, definitely worth reading.

geeta, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, I've got to de-lurk here. Many interesting things here, and thanks. Did anyone see that feminist essay on the Psychogeography site? I'm all for criticism of Byronic self-concepts, but as someone who likes to go walking and exploring, I thought her viewpoint was a bit passive and fatalistic, mistaking what *is* for what *could be*. She seemed to be essential arguing from the viewpoint of 'women as victims', as if no woman can walk in the city, as if women cannot be observers as well as observed. It's an attitude far from my own. People go walking for the stimuli - it's part of the creative process. She seems to cast the whole things as a conquering / exploiting thing and sees much of it strictly in terms of sexuality.

Kerry, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hi Kerry.

Nitsuh, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

how do you pronounce foucalt? i thought it was like foe-cawlt but then the 'too drunk to foucalt' joke doesn't really work.

ethan, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Read the article over tea, and it WAS interesting. However, it appears that these "Situationists" are only twisting Debord's words to suit themselves. (Can't be totally sure, as I've not read the book, yet.) At one point in the article, the Nottingham Psychogeographical Unit says that citizens should "have admin control over the planning of buildings". That would only happen in a perfect world---and we don't have one. Regardless of country, city beaureaucracy seems to have total control of the purse.

Nichole Graham, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The standard way I've encountered (which is not to say it's the proper French way, but then saying it the proper French way could make you look pretentious even among people who are already potentially pretentious enough to say 'Foucault' out loud) is foo-CO.

Josh, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I always just mouth the name silently, even when I say the rest of the sentence aloud: I find no one ever thinks me even faintly pretentious then.

The original situationists were actualy I think enormously fatalistic and passive at the time when this was their primary project, in the 50s: it was kind of monumental-improvised compensatory urban art inside your own head, to make up for your total powerlessness against the state, the actual official urban planners etc. Later — possibly after they heard abt Happenings in the US, which they were extremely sniffy about (being French lefties) — they started arguing that demos, strikes, city-wide revolts and revolution were the real monumental-improvised urban art of the future. So that Paris May 1968 would be the ultimate non-passive Debordian psycho- geographical seizure and radical art- transformation of the urban environment, by the people for the people, as it were.

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

[S]ays that citizens should "have admin control over the planning of buildings". That would only happen in a perfect world.

Is this not sort of the meaning of the word "should?"

Or is your argument that some secondary Imperfection X must be dealt with before citizen control is feasible?

Nitsuh, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually I've changed my mind: the original sits out themselves ACROSS as passive etc, in their literature, because it kind of accorded with the way they felt they would like to be seen, unfooled opt-out art nihilists. But yes, I think there was a lot more pleasure than they quite admitted, just in the exploration of the out-of-the-way, the weird, the strange and the forgotten, which they found much harder to elaborate directly inside their ideology of themselves. I'm very ambivalent about Debord the Passionate Overthrower of Everything: but I like Debord the self-taught expert on East and South London backstreets, Debord the solitary librarian of the overlooked and the passed-by.

mark s, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In between my last post and this one I had a dérive experience Debord might have appreciated. I was supposed to meet a friend at her studio at Hunter College on 41st Street. We were going to see the Armory Show at nearby Pier 88 on the Hudson.

I took the subway up to midtown, then switched to a bus heading towards the river. It passed a stone's throw from Hunter College, but then took a sudden swing into a traffic system that led --horror! -- underground into the Lincoln Tunnel. With a sinking heart I confirmed with the driver that there were no stops until Staten Island.

We travelled along the New Jersey turnpike, past Newark Airport, then over the bridge to Staten Island, with the towers of Manhattan like faraway pins on the horizon. At least here there were recognisable streets. I could jump off and phone my friend. Then I had to take two buses to the St George Ferry Terminal, catch the Staten Island Ferry past the Statue of Liberty (a tourist saw me taking photos of the post-WTC New York skyline and kindly took one with me in it), and finally get a Manhattan bus back to my Chinatown digs. The 'missed bus stop' rigmarole had cost me two hours and a half of 'dérive'.

Although it was in some ways an adventure, I must say it made me realise how completely alien places like New Jersey and Staten Island are to me. They might as well be another planet. The best bit was escaping the nightmare world of cars and clapboard suburban poverty and getting back to the high density sallow-skinned handcarts and hubbub and red neon of Chinatown.

The best thing about dérive is getting back home to a nice cup of tea, as Guy used to say.

Momus, Friday, 22 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a real bitch. Just when you think you're so global, you find that you're really a local.

Kim, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't you be both, Kim?

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

****Is this not sort of the meaning of the word "should?"***

Point taken, Nitsuh;> ****Or is your argument that some secondary Imperfection X must be dealt with before citizen control is feasible?***

Actually, I was thinking that true 'citizen control' wouldn't be possible, at all. My impression (while reading the article) was that the idea of allowing the residents to create their own space would work well in theory; the reality of negotiating permits, having to gather local government support and the like might be more work than the average person is willing to put up with.

I'd like to believe that residents would be left alone to initiate their own designs, independent of any meddling. However, I can't see that happening.

Nichole Graham, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
free-running / la parkour: Jump London

brutal (Cozen), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Jacques Lacan let me rock you, let me rock you Jacques Lacan
Jacques Lacan it's all I wanna do....

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, there's no real pun in there to anger Ned.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I was about to say.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
psychogeography often seem peculiarly london-centric, but, often, i wonder if it is not los angeles that should not fulfill this role. los angeles seems more 'the living city' than london does, at any rate...

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Los Angeles isn't even a real place! it's seven suburbs in search of a City!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

exactly!

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

actually, not that dissimilar from london, come to think of it

terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but one of London's villages is called The City and has been A City for over 2000 years, in fact, it may have been part of the very fundamental definition of the nature of A City.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

When I was in Toronto in 1987, there were Situationist books all over the place, or so it seemed. I question how new a revived interest is.

(Also I was just listening to the White Stripes doorbell song from the last album and my doorbell rang. That White Stripes album causes synchronicities, as far as I'm concerned, because I just clicked on the Madonna thread and it mentioned the White Stripes. But I never listen to the White Stripes.

o god I hear water pouring down in the "crawl space" (quite roomy actually) above me. There has been a slowly developing leak, which turned out to be really serious. They have to shut the water for the whole building off just to fix it.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

I will have none of this mocking of the Sprawl in the Basin. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

eighteen years pass...

I've become interested in the historic watersheds of Oakland.. I was always convinced that the main road near my street must've been a creek at some point and was able to find a watershed map that confirmed this, it's all been culverted-over and covered

So Native Americans must've walked up this way 10,000 years ago, but nothing in California feels all that 'old' so it's almost like we have no right to be wandering dreamy antiquarians, London style. I know that Robert Louis Stevenson briefly lived a few blocks from me, I've walked by the street... vaqueros roamed the hills looking for stray cows in the 1850's

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:44 (one year ago)


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