The Pinefox is coming to Dublin

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apparently so. he will be here on the weekend of Bloomsday (sad James Joyce festival based around the day Ulysses is set), and has expressed interest in going for a pint in The Palace. this would be on saturday the 15th or Sunday the 16th of June. Pinefox - perhaps you can clarify.

DV, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not the Palace on Camden Street?

SURELY NOT THE PALACE ON CAMDEN STREET?

I'm presuming it's the Irish Times Journo hang out Palace Bar as mentioned in many of those "witty" former editors biogs?

The other Palace is the worst "nightclub" in the world and the scene of many heartbreaks, shit nights out, aggressive vodka induced mockeries and one or two miraculously good nights out. Dear oh dear. The only song they ever played that wouldn't make me cry was Billie Jean-"WOO".

Ronan, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why is the festival sad?

"All watched awhile through their window caps and hats lifted by passers. Respect. The carriage swerved from the tramtrack to the smoother road past Watery lane. Mr. Bloom at gaze saw a lithe young man, clad in mourning, a wide hat."

not in mourning. but will he wear a wide hat?

i got into a conversation with some dubliners outside the monarch in camden and apparently it's considered a plus on your resume if you work for a while in london. i found this very sad.

youn, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am not talking about the Palace on Camden Street, you tards. I have never even heard of this place. I mean the Palace on Fleet Street, the one Flann O'Brien occasionally drank in with the Irish Times gang.

Bloomsday is sad because... it just is, it's one of those soak money of tourists days that bedevil this city.

DV, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that should be tard singular, I knew you meant the Irish Times Palace. The thought of the Pinefox in the Palace on Camden Street is a funny one though.

Ronan, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK OK, calm down.

Is the Camden Street Palace the one rugger bugger students keep kicking each other to death outside?

DV, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I am calmed.

Yes that's the one. It's rugby boy central, collars up everywhere. Not a place to go. But people who've come to Dublin from the country seem to find it hugely impressive.

Ronan, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread is better than ulysses

mark s, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yes.

DV, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Much more concise, to be sure.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

so far the Dublin IL*/Sinister meetup looks like:

ME!

RENER!

The Pinefox!

and one subber from Sinister.

DUBLIN - The friendly city.

DV, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

15 / 16 June is good. How many Palaces do you people have? And do you have The Green Arrows doing flypasts over them?

Ronan - those editors' biogz sound good!

ALL the real pros are going to be in Trieste of course. Perhaps that's why Dublin is so reticent.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why doesn't a writer move from Trieste to Dublin and then write a novel about one day in the life of some people in Trieste?

DV, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

so, no one wants to meet the Pinefox, then?

DV, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Everyone wants to meet the Pinefox, but we can't get to Dublin in time. Believe me, we would if we could. I'm hoping for a minute-by- minute real time account, like what they have for the World Cup.

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd like to say "It's called Ulysses"

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

:-O

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK. Dublin People. the Pinefox is going to be in the Fleet Street's Palace tonight. from 7.30.

Be there - or be square.

DV, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Q: What do you get if you cross James Joyce with Phil Lynott?

A: The Wandering Rockers

Report Back! I spent all even refreshing the page for minute-by- minute updates, and I bet I'm not the only one.

PJ Miller, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

bloody hell, the things we got up to... woahhhh, if only I could tell...

DV, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

right, just for peter, then:

saturday 10.?? p.m. - the pinefox arrives chez DV/rener, and there is much rejoicing.

sunday a.m. - not only is it bloomsday, it's also ireland vs. spain! the pinefox is out on the streets early, attacking anyone wearing a striped blazer and/or straw boater and/or pretending to read Ulysses. er, possibly.

sunday afternoon - we watch the match in nealon's of capel street (a far more moral pub than davy byrne's; it even has its own elderly red setter). excellent pints of plain, poured by leprechaun-suit-wearing bar staff, are imbibed. pennos are missed.

sunday p.m. - we get confused and go to the palace in camden street by accident, where we are all killed by crazed knackers. meanwhile, back on Earth One, we drink pints in the palace bar in fleet street with andrew farrell, sinister seamus and the ghost of flann o'brien. ILXers are discussed, pitilessly and at length.

conclusion: drinking almost constantly for 10 hours RoXoR.

monday - back to work, bleh. you'll have to ask the pinefox about how he got on today.

rener, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

now we are about to go out and have something to eat.

DV, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Miller - your interest is a great thing.

Saturday: silver cowboy hats on the hen parties streaming out of Temple Bar, wondering what the Ha'penny Bridge was called.

Sunday: the pf tried to get to Sandycover, but no DART till 9:30: so George Street: JJ Centre: Guinness to wash down the kidneys. In the street. Actors in yellow dressing gowns, that class of thing.

I tagged along with a tour that led us a merry trail around the city. Led by a bunch of bluffers: outside the Ormond we are told that 'At 5 o'clock, Cyclops arrived at the Ormond'. Later we hear that James Joyce's father was called - I kid you not - John Kennedy.

The city orange white and green. I'm not sure I've ever seen such an insistent carnival of national colours, in so many forms. If they win the match, the rejoicing would be almost unimaginable.

They don't, but arguably deserved to. (Perhaps another thread has discussed this?) Dublin takes it remarkably well: perhaps it's the heavy rain that does it. The Balloonatics waive the charge for their Ormond readings.

In the narrow Palace, I wonder how all those literary characters could fit.

Monday: Sandycove. The perennial sun merries off the water, like the way the sun always used to seem to shine on Cup Final day. The Milesian flag flies. The curator tells me where I can maybe see Brazil - Belgium. It turns out to be a pub festooned with Joyceana, and the usual codger telling me who JJ was. Belgium, too, are unlucky.

RTE coverage features Liam Brady but NOT Eamon Dunphy. It also features an extraordinary parody of ITV's panel: a male Gabby talking to a remarkably accurate Terry and Andy. Hahahahahaha, guffaws Terry: Hahahahahahaha.

the pinefox, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you.

PJ Miller, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Pinefox went to a pub last night and met some of my friends.

this morning he left before we were up so quietly that we thought he was still there. Who knows where he is now?

DV, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Under the duvet?

PJ Miller, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't Eamon Dunphy get sacked the other day for being pissed?

N., Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess my bazooka bubblegum wrapper joke about Dublin would be inappropriate.

Nicole, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Pinefox and I had lunch in O'Neills and watched the South Korea- Italy game.

DV, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Didn't Eamon Dunphy get sacked the other day for being pissed?
not sacked, just suspended ... RTE will probably only let him back on once the irish team have come home and the party has subsided. that's if they let him back on at all.

rener, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the Pinefox is back in England now.

I think.

DV, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not as good as Dublin.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No.

N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never been to Dublin. Can I go?

Ally C, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not until after you've been to Sweden. Don't be greedy.

David, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i want to know what the pinefox thinks of the south korean team.

youn, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
The Finefox has come to Dublin. He is on O'Connell Street.

He liked the Korean team a lot.

the finefox, Monday, 14 June 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

are you there again? did you go to the big breakfast thing i was reading about in the paper (i assume you are there for bloomsday celebrations)?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 June 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the breakfast.

Hello, Carsmile, it is nice to hear from you, far away, like this.

the finefox, Monday, 14 June 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, nice though.

it's at time like this i wish i had read some joyce and could thus make a witty reference...

i might be going to dublin over the summer at some point, although there are no firm plans yet. i shall be informing the dublin people if it happens, obviously.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 14 June 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
... again!

the finefox, Monday, 27 March 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

We must think of exciting things to do.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 27 March 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

when will the pinefox be here? i've never actually made it out to an irish pinefox fap..

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

He is here! Now! Reading over my shoulder!

We were thinking of pints next week some time, when The Vicar gets back from his secret mission overseas.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the Pinefox was able to shed (or hide or otherwise make immaterial) those 1100 words.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Vicar has many a mission.

Keep us posted about next week then!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Glasgow soon, The Pinefox.

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

what's the good word on pints this week?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am back in Dublin on Wednesday. I would like to FAP, then.

Lara (Lara), Monday, 3 April 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wrote reply that was eaten by server. I'd be up for meeting you all again (and some for the first time of course) but my only kind of caveat is that I might not be able to make it out too early. That said pints have often proved more attractive than study so if you're all out and about from early I can make it. I work in the D2 area so nowhere is too far away.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh lordy, this is too messy for my just-returned-to- Dublin, addled brain - Kehoe's tomorrow is fine for me but tonight's plans seem to tenuous to even contemplate. Plus, I am exhausted. Welcome back to Emerald Isle, pf.

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I too am bailing on tonight, because I have an essay to write. But Kehoe's tomorrow is a good idea, if seats can be had.

rener (rener), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think PF is becketing until 7.00... who knows what he will be doing after that?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow is best for me too. End of work day now ready to head home etc. Tomorrow we'll work out how to spot one another (probably the ones feverishly texting and saying oh noes under our breath etc.). As said above email away for phone number. I'll prob be in Kehoes tomorrow for six wearing a bright orangs scarf. Seriously. So if you see me say hi. I answer to money.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

i'll be in kehoes tomorrow as well...

it was nice to finally meet the pinefox last night!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Great. So I'm definitely meeting Kv (Kevin? Koovane?) in Kehoe's tomorrow at 6pm. I will be there from a little before. I am a lardy lady with long red hair and glasses and will probably be sipping a pint and reading a lardy book with scrolly writing on the cover.

I will watch out for bright orange scarf.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be there about five to ten past six tomorrow.

I'm not sure I can remember what KV looks like... I think I might have had a little drink when I met him last.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

got yr Pcard, Pfox!

I think I will visit dublin, once!!!!!!!

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Not next weekend though, as I understand you are booked, already.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

RJG - SORT.IT.OUT.

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's Kevin. I'll look for the lady with the big book and shout "O RLY?" at her. If it's not you at least you'll know where I am and be able to follow the orange scarf as I'm flung out.

DV I'm hurt but suffering from the same problem so feel free to pout away as well...

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know where the Pinefox is? his dinner is going cold.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I thank the kavanaghfox for his postcard too. I love a challenging read.

I hope that the dinner ending up in the pinefox & not the poubelle.

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, it's not like the Dublinfox to miss a Vicar-dinner-special. Was that last post addressed at me KN? My previous one was to RJG. Anyhow, you will recognise the Vicar for sure. I'll be looking corporate and kranky, soon to become literary and louche (hopefully).

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Look, if anyone is holding the Pinefox hostage, we will pay a ransom for his safe return.

I hope he is not off feeling the voibe somewhere, or has forgotten where we live, or some such.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

He likes a late return.

Just make sure you've got something for him to eat, or you'll be in trouble, sonny.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, it's not like the Dublinfox to miss a Vicar-dinner-special.

I forgot to actually tell him I was cooking, assuming that our psychic bond would inform him.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot reveal the details of the Pinefox's adventures last night (let's just say that Neddy the Donkey won't be sitting down for a while (because he is a donkey and donkeys never sit down)), but he does assert that he will be in Kehoes tonight, either at 6.00 or maybe a leetle bit later after some Beckett stuff finishes.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, thanks to the Beckettfox for the postcard.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

I did not receive a post card.

Perhaps it is in the post.

You can't beat a bit of Beckett, I always say.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

You should absolutely get over to Dublin soon then. It's currently covered in posters that say "one hundred years on and still no sign of him".
Which I know everyone probably thinks is dreadful, but I think it's cute.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 6 April 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hi sorry just checking in. Lara I meant that for DV. Not to worry, I will be corporate and cranky up until first pint then the hell with literary I'm going straight for the louche!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

This thread is making me wish I was in Dublin. :-( Hopefully there'll be some people around to FAP next time I'm over.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE O NATE. Did you ever hear Where's Me Jumper apart from me and Andrew singing it? I was dancing to it in Nottingham last saturday.

I am going to be feeling the suit love tonight.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Sultans of Ping, right? Thanks for reminding me. I need to look for that next time I'm on S0uls33k.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Where is everyone? Not in Kehoes that I could see. Really!

the finefox, Thursday, 6 April 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder.

the finefox, Thursday, 6 April 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I am still in the bleeding o(ri)ffice.

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

qu'est-ce que c'est <<fine>>? ou que veut dire <<fine>>?

youn, Thursday, 6 April 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Lara, sorry to have missed you. Sucks about working late! For the rest it was great meeting you all and having faces (some of which I had seen before but will now remember!) to the names.

Gingermanfox, hope you get/got back safely.

So hungover at desk, ended up in Cafe En Seine. Tried to get in to Cocoon (the friends I was meeting had moved) and was told I couldn't get in because I was wearing runners, not trainers! Doorman was unable to explain the difference but it appears that it's VERY important!

Trish the repeat late houseguest turned up again last night. I think I need to move!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, you're too nice, that's your trouble. Kick em in the goolies.

I would like to join in the sorrow at missing Lara, and the joy at meeting Killian and Kevin. It was a most pleasant evening.

La Cave, on the other hand, smelled like toilets and was too hot. I was sorry I moved.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

Aw man :( Bring back smoking! There was a time when certain bars (e.g. Scruffy Murphys) you couldn't stay in cos of the smell of toilets. They've fixed it now, or I got used to it. Either/or...

Kick em in the goolies? I'd be a bit scared as he is bigger than me and if he should fall would crush me like a bug.

You should've scarpered after starters: stomach lined and thirst all on the go. Class.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

Good to meet Kv_nol and Kilian and indulge in Writers' Block with WB Yeats in the Ginger Man. Truly this was a FAP.

Neddy was a bit disappointed by Lara's absence, though.

rener (rener), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's great the way the Pinefox is a one man ILX...

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

I used to think that 'Fine' meant (political) party, as in Fine Gael. But then I saw it translated somewhere as 'family'.

Please could some nice knowledgeable Irish person explain the significance of the fine in finefox for Youn's (& my) benefit.

Thanks.

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

I always assumed it had a military connection to Fian, meaning "soldier". Obviously Fianna Fáil does but I'm not certain "Fine" is the same.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think Fine is meant to mean "party" or "group" or something like that.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Fine is the old Irish word for tribe or kin. I am annoyed to have missed last night's festivities. And to hear that Neddy was there...!

Lara (Lara), Friday, 7 April 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, he was asking for you. By the way, thanks for backing me up on this, when I mentioned the whole Neddy thing to Kevin he looked at me like I was some kind of pervertalist.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 7 April 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

What a suggestion!

Lara (Lara), Friday, 7 April 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was disgusted I must say. Some kind of a vicar he proved to be...

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 7 April 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

The FAP was very good, once I found out that it was happening after all.

The talk in Kehoe's was very good, but the pitchers in the Ginger Man were great also. Strange to be drinking lager not stout for once. But it was very good lager.

It was strange and amusing to report on that bad book W.B. YEATS: VAIN, GLORIOUS, LOUT. Rener was quite offended by the thought of the commas. It is by A.J. Jordan I think, if anyone wants to see how awful the cover is.

My own sense was that the smoking ban had done no harm at all, and probably invisible good.

Thanks to Monkeyhouse Estates and Vicarage Productions for making my trip possible. Kilian's knowledge of ROCK is awesome - he seems to have heard just about everything.

the finefox, Saturday, 8 April 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like a good time, had by all, except, maybe, lara

sem like killian hasn't heard EVERYTHING: i have to write 100-150 word blurbs on albums i haven't heard : but more than I, I bet

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

sem like old times

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

kilian, sorry

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't make it, sorry PF, and others. I had to do a bit of work in the afternoon which stretched into the evening and then I had to DJ.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

The Pinefox is coming to Dublin AGAIN. Probably on Friday. He is interested in FAP, but not sure when.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 30 September 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'll be sure to try and fit in around that. I have long theatre plays to go to this weekend.

Hey, isn't Emsk coming this weekend too?

accentmonkey, Sunday, 30 September 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

i'm up for fap

Weasel Diesel, Sunday, 30 September 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

FAP Dublin Emsk's plans. No further word recently. Last we heard it was this thursday.

Sadly I cannot FAP on Friday.

Hi k*ll*an!

kv_nol, Monday, 1 October 2007 08:56 (eighteen years ago)


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